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File: 1484490021311.png (55.04 KB, 423x239, Plan B.png)

Fen!!Shining Armor ## Mod 9111[Last 50 Posts]

Effective immediately i've stepped down from Admin due to teamwork concerns.
Despite best efforts from either party, neither Me or Macil have been able to solve our inability to work together to the point where the site has effectively stagnated for a long period of time.
We've both agreed that somebody else should take my place as Admin while i step back down to Moderator.
I'm sorry that things progressed this far and i hope to be more effective as moderator than admin.

## Admin 9112

File: 1484490159246.png (376.82 KB, 1024x720, princess_celestia_by_akivia_jo…)

Hello everyone, Astra here.

As of now I'll be stepping up as the Co-Admin of ponychan alongside Macil. We'll be working together closely and hopefully for quite a long time.

We're aware that there are currently issues that need to be resolved, and we're working on tightening up on those right now.

Lisbon 9113

Can I be admin

9114

File: 1484490366843.png (280.01 KB, 1280x720, Hiding.png)

Bracing for fallout, sir.

Tarra.apk 9116

Will there be more cookies?

Karmadose !.KaRRawRMA 9117

File: 1484490917361.png (304.28 KB, 682x591, 1483838863877.png)

ALL HAIL ASTRA

Anonymous 9118

Fuck this, fuck you, fuck everyone, fuck this site

Fuck me too while I'm at it.
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Tracer Bullet 9119

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Okay.

Crimson Risk !RISkQqf4EM 9120

>>9111
nice trips

Tangerine!CookieYoHQ 9121

File: 1484492594333.jpg (34.77 KB, 447x497, Fcuk I'm hihg! Le'ts ship usre…)

!Spectremmc 9122

What did he mean by this?

Mbp 9123

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I guess it's time for me to make Ponychan great again.


vote for me

9126

File: 1484499439612.png (218.15 KB, 569x480, hmm.png)

Well, that's certainly an interesting turn of events. I hope this is a positive change for sure, but as with all things, gotta wait and see.

Lisbon 9127

Lisbon for admin
Real change is coming!

Anonthony!AppLeJAcK. 9128

>>9127
I'd take this far ahead of the other options.

9129

You fucking people... Why do you do this shit

Tell me

9130

Another thing you guys hire the most shit staff

Thyre hardly ever online or participate in the community

Maybe besides fluttershy

Lisbon 9131

>>9130

This. Why try to lead over something you don't even try to understand or participate in? Fathers, not kings! This will be our rallying cry!

!Huponyda2Y 9132

Mikie for mod

Lisbon 9133

>>9132

He will be one, yes. He will be Director of Fun. It's time to #draintheswamp

!Huponyda2Y 9134

>>9133
A great plan!

9135

I ain't doing it for free

!Huponyda2Y 9136

>>9135
Not even if you can bring the current staff with you for a helicopter ride?

9137

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>>9136
Eheheheh

!Huponyda2Y 9138

File: 1484504583211.jpg (173.07 KB, 945x945, wub woo.jpg)

Lisbon 9139

>>9124

>#Tangymod


Oh ho ho, do I have a Story for you.

Anonymous 9140

>Astra is known to everyone as the most desperate, wannabe, tryhard on this site for literally it's entire incarnation. No one has ever tried so hard and wanted so badly to be a mod

tbh, that's the last thing I see when I think of astra

Shaarky!Love7j/ioI 9141

File: 1484514312984.png (30.88 KB, 111x169, 1467744201378.png)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

THE BACKROOM GLADHANDING HAS PAID OFF

ALL HAIL ASTRA (and Macil, of course)

Power Chord 9142

I only request the power to trash Kabel threads.

!!Fluttershy 9143

File: 1484518255485.gif (1.02 MB, 359x406, ugoo.gif)

>Effective immediately
yup still funny

>>9130
yaaaaaay validation!!!!

☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfo 9144

File: 1484519495406.png (84.6 KB, 864x937, Ember Storm - Ewwwww - Mellowb…)

>the forever power hungry Astra gets even more power and abilities

Well fuck.

There were so many better options.

Mac !RevGiOKgRo 9146

>>9124
>So just reimagine the site, it doesn't matter now. Condense it to 1-2 boards, maybe 3, useful for long convos/discussions that take awhile, and for hosting images for posting in the Discord. That's basically what the community is evolving into unavoidably. Let the site be for long roleplay or community discussion and serial threads (in a single board with regular threads), and longer pony discussions. One board with strict, hugboxy rules (should it actually become possible to bring those people back), and one with whatever-you-want rules.

This is actually not a bad idea.
Most of the boards are dead anyways, and Discord is where the real community is anyways.

9147

>>9146
In all honesty, this is part of why I wasn't fond of the idea of making any sort of "official" chat group/server like that. The site doesn't have enough traffic to warrant needing something like that, and it's literally pulling the community off of the site that it's meant to be supporting. There's not much point in having a site if it's just going to be overshadowed by a chat server.

Admiral 9148

>>9147
The site is a much more effective a place for what I like to think of as curated content. Posts are able to be higher quality on the site because people think about them and spend time on them, moderation can effectively exist and you can view the whole of a conversation no matter when it happened, not to mention filters and thread hiding. If I'm to spend a limited amount of my time on Ponychan I think I would prefer it where there overall quality is better and I don't feel stuck with talking to whoever is on at the moment.

Shaarky!Love7j/ioI 9149

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>>9148
This.

I mean, I like the discord well enough, it allows me to connect with people at any given time, but I still think the website is the best way to get content, even if I don't think any of the content at this time is very interesting to me.

Mac !RevGiOKgRo 9150

>>9147
Listen, I used to be on an obscure internet forum, and it did die down once we all just moved to Skype.
But you know what? It didn't matter much in the end, because the same friendships were still around and chatting behaved in a tolerant manner towards delays and thinking things out anyways.
This was bad for the forum, but what was the forum a tool for? Those friendships.

Shaarky!Love7j/ioI 9151

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>>9150
this is ponychan we're talking about.

🐈🐈UMR🐈🐈!SUCC/WBAqg 9152

File: 1484529460291.png (257.34 KB, 541x406, 1448680833442.png)

>Shittalk Admiral for "disloyalty" because he doesn't hate Moony
>plug a literal conspirator

☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfo 9153

>>9124
You don't want Tangy to be a mod. He's a vindictive, judgmental asshole who hides it well but only ever gives second chances to one person (who never ever fucking deserves them).

space 9161

lel

Tangerine!CookieYoHQ 9164

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>>9153

>He's a vindictive, judgmental asshole who hides it well but only ever gives second chances to one person


Well for starters that person never goes around insulting me behind my back, and actually tries to improve.

FFS Ember you insulted everyone in the US over the Dallas shooting, did your "Canadian superiority" thing and then refused to ever apologize. In a Discord with 90% US citizens. Not the first time you pulled off this shit either. And then like a year after you still go around shitting on us. Like, fuck, I've seen salty, but this is a new record for sodium.

Only thing surprising is the Ponychan staff putting up with you. Which, incidentally, is a very good reason to not ever want a mod position here.

Crimson Risk !RISkQqf4EM 9167

>>9147
4 years ago we made a Skype group and the boards have been pretty much obsolete ever since.

>>9148
>Posts are able to be higher quality on the site because people think about them and spend time on them
LOL
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Anonymous 9168

File: 1484539042294.jpg (61.92 KB, 640x480, errrrgh.jpg)

>>9153
Tangy poisoned our water supply, burned our crops, and delivered a plague unto our houses!

Tangerine!CookieYoHQ 9169

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>>9168

They were shit crops tbh fam

And don't get me started on raping your houses and burning your women. Ugh, that left me sore for days. Why couldn't you guys build shit out of bricks like everyone?

9170

Quit burning houses down

Tangerine!CookieYoHQ 9171

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>>9170

I burned the women, not the houses,

Mac !RevGiOKgRo 9173

>>9151
Yes, and?
Basically anyone with a name is on discord.

Tangerine!CookieYoHQ 9174

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>>9172

Well nobody seems to be doing anything to the random guy insulting other people. I mean, at least I want my right to politely defend myself.

Hisp !ArepaaIqL. 9175

Shaarky!Love7j/ioI 9176

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>>9173
Aaaand nobody fucking thinks before they post on the Discord, are you fucking kidding me? People literally just say shit that pops into their minds.

Tangerine!CookieYoHQ 9178

File: 1484540115187.png (84.02 KB, 850x769, I ♥ U.png)

Mac !RevGiOKgRo 9179

>>9176
Nobody does here either.

Hisp !ArepaaIqL. 9180

>>9178

Hi there.

🐈🐈UMR🐈🐈!SUCC/WBAqg 9183

>>9179
Its been a little over 24 hours since you made that apology thread

Shaarky!Love7j/ioI 9184

File: 1484540341909.jpg (56.06 KB, 205x298, Driving.jpeg)

>>9179
So your little anecdote about the forum means literally nothing and there was no point for you to make it.

Mac !RevGiOKgRo 9186

>>9184
The boards don't matter as much if we're a small family now.

Shaarky!Love7j/ioI 9187

File: 1484540460931.jpg (34.8 KB, 117x125, Gasoline.jpeg)

>>9186
Which we are not.

Shaarky!Love7j/ioI 9188

>>9150
>chatting behaved in a tolerant manner towards delays and thinking things out anyways
literally this will never happen, ever.

Dom The Bear!f1BearzjRw 9189

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>>9186
>>9187
Depends on who you hang out with.

Mac !RevGiOKgRo 9190

>>9187
Yeah we do.
Close-knit community.

Shaarky!Love7j/ioI 9191

File: 1484540923936.jpg (44.95 KB, 186x282, High five.jpeg)

>>9189
But as a whole.

I had my little "Ponychan family", but that's over now. As a whole, this site isn't a close-knit community, and since this is /site/ we are talking about the entirety of Ponychan.

Also holy crap this is the first /site/ thread that I've had any sort of conversation in! Achievement Get!

>>9190
Oh we do, do we. Tell me how we do are a small family.

Mac !RevGiOKgRo 9194

>>9191
We all know each other, most of us have the same old names, and nobody new shows up except /pol/ anons.

Shaarky!Love7j/ioI 9195

File: 1484541427958.jpg (46.6 KB, 167x254, Draw on waffles.jpeg)

>>9194
oh is that how we do are a family

protip: that doesnt make us a family in any way shape or form.

Mac !RevGiOKgRo 9197

>>9195
Dysfunctional family?

Starshine!Laura/wmXM 9198

File: 1484570297686.png (175.75 KB, 1280x1024, 1448905922900.png)

Lisbon for admin

☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfo 9201

File: 1484577902720.png (81.45 KB, 512x512, Ember Storm - Je Sais Que Vous…)

>>9198
Couldn't be worse than Astra.

Amy_of_Shadows!LAINj6mQVk 9202

File: 1484588084214.png (348.28 KB, 720x480, vlcsnap-2015-11-04-23h04m39s10…)

At least the new admin isn't Ember Storm

Amy_of_Shadows!LAINj6mQVk 9203

Also, it's interesting that Astra changed over to celestia as a title a la orange while fen stayed as shining even as admin.

9204

File: 1484589328609.png (928.88 KB, 600x852, PrincessCelestia.png)

>>9203
I've always like the thematic sense of co-admins having related tags.

Fen and Admiral had Shining and Cadence as tags.

Orange and Inkwell had Celestia and Luna.

Macil already had Luna, and it would have annoyed a very small part of me if I'd had some other tag.

Amy_of_Shadows!LAINj6mQVk 9205

File: 1484592284936.gif (822.11 KB, 480x270, 1437188448740.gif)

>>9204
Hey if i suck your dick can i be a mod?

9206

File: 1484592499118.png (992.38 KB, 900x708, the_apotheosis_of_celestia_by_…)

>>9205
Nope.

Amy_of_Shadows!LAINj6mQVk 9207

>>9206
haha it was a ruse! I'd suck your dick anyways!

Amy_of_Shadows!LAINj6mQVk 9208

>>9206
I do have a serious question though. If the user has to activate the view mature thread option, why is it isolated to /chat/? I mean if there are uninterested users in say, /oat/ they could just unbox the view mature option... and the 18 year old confirmation already blocks us from liability.

Anonymous 9209

9210

File: 1484594036772.png (191.08 KB, 500x1336, CIA Pinkie Pie.png)

crashing this site

WITH NO SURVIVORS

Lisbon 9211

>>9210

Please do.

Anonymous 9212

>>9198
I agree

EMF Crossbow Pone (Thread Pet)!.MinxyTeTI 9213

File: 1484595575111.png (349.5 KB, 640x640, tilde.png)

>>9198
Starryshine for admin! Cute girls everywhere!

Anonymous 9214

>>9213
But Libson is a qt girl! As far as you know!

Lisbon 9215

I do it for free!

Solar Empire Commander (Admiral of the Imperial Navy)!RyuseiJm7U 9216

File: 1484597951661.jpg (781.49 KB, 723x1024, d6b300c35bea97650a6ad86597c0e1…)

Me for admin. I'll burn everything to ashes.

Lisbon 9217

>>9216

Hot.

Solar Empire Commander (Admiral of the Imperial Navy)!RyuseiJm7U 9218

>>9217
Extremely~

Mac !RevGiOKgRo 9219

>>9208
Drawing attention to this post.

!!Fluttershy 9221

>>9208
because there are lots of people(including staff) opposed to having mature threads on the site, even if they can't see them. It was hard enough getting it allowed on that one board.

List!!DmZwuuBQIx 9222

File: 1484616623786.jpg (56.12 KB, 660x660, tumblr_static_bi2uasp802ogk4gc…)

Rest in Peace.

RIP

BMO 9223

Me for mod. I'll make ponychan lurk hug again!

Amy_of_Shadows!LAINj6mQVk 9224

>>9221
So it's not about logic or practicality... it's about prudes forcing it on other people. good to know.

Dulset Tarn !KelpieFM3Q 9225

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...

M 9226

File: 1484625610263.jpg (45.27 KB, 382x750, i love angel.jpg)

It is a dark day for Ponychan.

we did not always see eye to eye... no, we did not. But Fen, you really do care about us all. And all the differences we once had seem so small, today.

May tomorrow for you, fenny... be better than what has come before. You deserve more and better than this drama.

M 9227

File: 1484625647315.png (548.89 KB, 1600x1256, i love my angel bunny.png)

one more, for you

Mac !RevGiOKgRo 9228

>>9221
>opposed to having mature threads on the site, even if they can't see them.

Feeling attacked by it's mere existence...
Nice.

Anonymous 9230

>>9224
>>9228
stop being dumb please

Anonymous 9231

File: 1484629867299.png (62.06 KB, 700x633, 552587__safe_solo_oc_artist-co…)

>>9112
>We'll be working together closely and hopefully for quite a long time.

Now kiss.

Bleeding Rain!DROPScczL2 9232

File: 1484630918323.gif (240.35 KB, 722x722, 746194__safe_solo_animated_equ…)

>Senpai is Admin

Bleeding Rain!DROPScczL2 9233

File: 1484631516008.png (187.87 KB, 453x512, 1168617__safe_equestria+girls_…)

>>9153
>don't do it
>it's ember. don't do it
>he'll never hear you
>he insulted tangy

Fuck it. I'm not going to let that slide. I'm sure Tangy is perfectly capable of standing up for himself, but I'm going to back him up anyway.

Tangy is one of the coolest guys I've ever met, and contributed so much to a thread that was choking on YOUR negative attitude. All you ever did was whine and complain and get angry at people. Ever wonder why you don't see me around anymore? I got tired of seeing you every day. That wasn't the only reason but it was a big one. I am so sick of you blaming everyone else for your issues. You're such a child. Grow up. Start taking responsibility for your actions.
Tangy doesn't judge people. He's very caring and accepting of anyone willing to return that kindness. The only person I see judging is you.
And yeah, he got mad at me one time because I hurt one of his friends, but I apologized, made amends, and he forgave me. Maybe you should try it.
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9234

File: 1484635567428.png (559.53 KB, 855x722, 700.png)

so then i was like...

PONY AIRLINE FOOD?

whats up with that?

ba dum tss

9235

>>9208
Because there are threads on /chat/ that aren't mature, and users who might want to use /chat/ for those threads but not see the mature content can use that option to keep it blocked.

Reaver 9236

Holadios to Fen then, mebbe we should thank him for his service or something?
Some artfag should draw some FenArt or something.

StarMane 9237

File: 1484649146842.gif (1.26 MB, 400x275, alf.gif)

9238

>>9224
Actually it is about logic and rationality, yes it allows them to be hidden, but putting all the content in a single board where any kind of content is allowed means there's no reason to allow it anywhere else. The only place that would have the ability to argue the point against that would be /rp/

And since I've asked those communities before, no one really wants to be able to post nsfw content there.

>>9226
I'm not bothered all that much by it, since I was fully expecting it.

However it is so very touching to have me becoming an admin called a dark day for ponychan, but I guess that's not anything worse then what Anonthony said about me.

>>9231
Nah.

>>9233
/site/ is not the place for this kind of discussion

StarMane 9239

>>9238
as admin, what do you think will be your biggest challenge?

9240

>>9239
Putting up with me.

9241

File: 1484651337694.png (1.34 MB, 800x831, CELESTIAKEBAB.png)

>>9239
I don't really consider anything about doing the job a challange.

I have a co-admin I communicate pretty effectively with, a team I know I can work with, and ideas for how to handle things going forward.

>>9240
I mean yeah I guess there's THIS guy.

StarMane 9242

>>9240
you're not even bad....
i meant more like direction for the site and stuff

StarMane 9244

>>9241
do you see any changes to policy that would affect more problematic posters?

StarMane 9245

>>9243
i dont reconize sarcasim in written form

im so sorry for the mis-understanding

9246

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>>9244
Our only rules updates and site standards changes that were on the table at the moment are things we just updated.

That's not to say their wont be any changes in the future, we just don't have any planned and there aren't any that are in the works right now.

>>9243
You're a joke

StarMane 9247

>>9246
what do you see as the problems facing the site?

9248

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>>9247
Lack of staff coverage, the user base spread out, lack of definition between boards.

Before today I would have said the rules and not having some kind of staff standards we hold ourselves accountable to, but that's fixed now.

What I think of as problems are from my perspective, sometime in the future I'll sit down and make a more concrete list of topics for discussion with the userbase before anything else moves forward.

I'm just not ready to have those conversations yet while I'm still getting settled and working on things internally, such as more consistent staff communication and making sure some of our more inactive staff members want to stay on or not.

All of which is stuff I'll end up going into detail more as it gets handled and taken care of.

StarMane 9249

>>9248
most interesting
i look forward to lurking those threads
thanks for answering my questions, i couldnt sleep
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9250

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>>9248
>the user base spread out
It's almost like half of our users are stuck on a Discord server we didn't need or something

9251

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>>9249
No problem.

>>9250
That was more in reference to /gala/ then anything else.

Most of the people in the discord server actually came from other pony discord servers, with a smattering of people from various boards here on the site.

In fact, there's more board crossover on the discord then there has been on ponychan itself in years, which can only be good for the site if we work on certain things going forward.

StarMane 9252

>>9250
i keep getting direct messeged but by the time i log in its long gone

☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfo 9253

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>>9250
Made, without actually going through the proper channels, by the person who is now directly responsible for the site.

Is it hard to understand why putting someone who is basically the Trump of Ponychan in charge is probably not a good thing yet.

Unknownpony 9254

>>9253
Why the hell you compare him to Trump who is president of the USA? Unless you want say positive words for him which I think you don't

Top kek, I bet you would want Clinton of p-chan to get the power xD
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Ziegler!Love7j/ioI 9255

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>>9253
And what, pray tell, are those "proper channels"? Literally what?

You? Sorry, dude, but nobody actually gives a fuck about your opinion. This site having a Discord or not has nothing to do whether or not you think it's a good idea.

The Admins at the time? Astra ASKED both of them for permission to make it. And they said he could. So he did. You're opinion means literally nothing.

And honestly? There's no reason to be so fucking salty over a fucking Discord server, like holy shit. Nibble I can maybe understand because he actually cares about this site and the people on it. You? All you do is complain and talk shit on literally everyone. You should honestly just leave, when all you do here is insult and complain constantly about how much you hate how the site is ending up.. Or you could try and change your attitude and maybe try and make the place better rather than just complaining and talking shit.

Power Chord 9256

Y'all need to chill the fuck out.

☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfo 9257

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>>9255
You know, I do care about the site. That would be precisely why I am against the Discord server being a thing. The only thing that an external server or group does for the site itself is slow it down, as people stop posting here in preference for the instant messenger. I can understand having a Discord for the mods to communicate to each other in, but the site as a whole won't benefit from having one because it will do nothing for the speed.

Furthermore, I do a fair bit more than "insult and complain constantly." There are posters I dislike, sure, but I ignore who I can. It is not wrong to vehemently disagree with the outcome of admin change, especially when I have experiences from 2011/2012 of them acting in a manner that shows they have various qualities one wouldn't want a mod, let alone an admin, to have.

Beyond that, maybe people should "give a fuck about my opinion." I've been here longer than most of today's posters and mods, and I've seen a lot of stuff happen. On the rare occasion that the user base was asked for input (which needs to happen EVERY TIME SOMETHING MAJOR IS DONE rather than once in a blue moon), if I said it was a bad idea and it was implemented anyway, it usually turned out to be a bad idea.

>>9254
As usual, you completely misconstrue anything I say.
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StarMane 9260

>>9255
its not really any of my business,
but do you like this board?
https://www.reddit.com/r/OverwatchCirclejerk/

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I welcome the positive changes to the rules and environment and I look forward to structural changes to accommodate the kind of community and culture the population and subgroups want to have going forward.

The two sides of the coin of the userbase can be facilitated easily with 2 minorly differing off-topic boards, along with the requisite pony and roleplay boards, with recurring threads comfortably inhabiting whichever they prefer.

I believe staff changes were and still are necessary; culling inactive staff or those otherwise not participatory in the community. I disagree with administrative changes and I don't accept them in any context. Like Ember, I have usually been proven right by time and yet continue to go unheeded. In part that is on me for delivering the messages thick with vinegar. I just don't have the honey to deliver them better. Then again, in this instance, no input was even possible before it was already done, and that is not on me.
Set aside, I support the other alterations.

I am not in favor of such a large and active offsite community and I believe it was in poor judgment and done without the right intentions. I don't know at this point what can be done about it. Time will have to tell.

>>9226
I'm not sure by what right you think you have to comment, after everything you put him through, to act as if you had silly simple disagreement, equivocating it as "didn't see eye to eye" when you dragged him through hell and savaged his character and sabotaged his every effort to accomodate yourself and a site subcommunity. We wouldn't need these changes at this stage in the first place if you hadn't made both sides of the coin lesser than the sum of their parts; when 90% of the core all want the same thing - but that didn't matter to you. Now we all have to live with a far lesser future, so you could satisfy your Lorax roleplay. It is truly a pity we're all at this stage; if you hadn't sabotaged the attempt to make this place whole again 3 years ago, who knows how far we could have come by now. When you still had the gravitas to help direct it's path. Now here we are, hinging on hope and thin threads, much harder choices and much smaller margins for error, because you couldn't live without your messiah complex, your guardian-savior obsession. Well good job. You saved the city as well as Spongebob and Patrick. You threw the baby out with the bathwater and you're left with a glorified serial chat so you could protect it from.. all those people who agreed with 90% of what you and they all wanted in the first place. I've not once entered your home to say a single word (can't say the same about the reverse back then, can you.) If you want to reconcile with Fen, you know how to reach him. If you want to support these changes or this community that he cares about and has worked so long and hard for, feel free.

====

I will commit myself to making this work and adapting. My mental health notwithstanding, I will try to bring some fun and conversation. And I will hope that people can be drawn back by an active /oat/ that is well moderated and still welcoming to most people so long as the important lines aren't crossed, so everyone has a safe and enjoyable space to post without issue, while relagating the extremes to /chat/ where they belong.

I hope others will do the same and advocate for this path where people can come back from wherever they dispersed to.

>>9255
>>9257
Ember cares as much or more about this place as any. It's actually him that earlier convinced me privately not to give up or lose hope. If he isn't giving up, I can't either. He has legitimate insights and shouldn't be dismissed regardless of how he delivers the message. I look forward to more changes that he and I both concur would improve the community for everyone.

Astra ## Admin 9262

>>9257
You're right that you do a fair bit more then bitch and moan on this website, and I know you hate me or whatever.

I won't throw anything you say out out of hand just because you're the one saying it or because of how you say it, although I'd prefer some level of civility.

>>9261
The same applies to you as well, and with that in mind I'll go ahead and address some of the things in here that I feel comfortable addressing at the moment.

I'd like to state ahead of time however that nothing is immediately concrete. While I'm not going to let things stagnant, I feel it's important that the site staff and the users be involved in things going forward to more of a degree.

>I believe staff changes were and still are necessary; culling inactive staff or those otherwise not participatory in the community.


I agree with you, we have some staff members who aren't in contact with the rest of the staff and that's something I'm trying to rectify before just cutting people out.

I'd also to have a slightly stronger staff presence then what we have in the community, frankly I feel that with relying on strictly reports to catch things the staff won't be able to enforce changes unilaterally enough.

>The two sides of the coin of the userbase can be facilitated easily with 2 minorly differing off-topic boards, along with the requisite pony and roleplay boards, with recurring threads comfortably inhabiting whichever they prefer.


I agree that re-structuring needs to happen, to what full degree is something I, and I'm sure Macil, would like userbase interaction with on before we commit to full changes.

However even with that being said there will come a certain point when something has to be done in regards to that.

Anonymous 9265

Yall are fillies.

9266

>>9265
rude

Mac !RevGiOKgRo 9269

>>9238
That...actually makes sense.
I still question though, if /oat/ is really a place that couldn't use that setting.

AustroSpike ~Element of Makeshift Moe~ 9271

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>125 posts omitted

Mac !RevGiOKgRo 9272

>>9271
It's drama.

Thauma!TURTLEsW8. 9273

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There isn't anything that creates as much salt as the "splitting the community" topic around these parts.
But why the fuck? Who are you to tell anyone if they are allowed to make a website or a chat page or a chat room anywhere? And who are you to dictate if people in one place are allowed to or not to post in that other place?

Instead of shitting on the new place, maybe think about why the new place is being created, and if there's some need it fulfills that the old place (in this case your beloved Ponychan) doesn't that caused the split, so to speak. Compete instead of trying to create a monopoly over the community.

Not targeting this post to a specific person, just to people that keep going "Weeh why are you guys creating different websites and chat rooms weeh". It's just so hilarious.

I mean yes it reduces the potential number of people that'll post on each site when you have two instead of one. But some people just want different communities, different rules, different software types.

I don't know anything about PERSONAL drama about chan splits. And I really don't care to hear. It will all be hearsay and rumor as far as I can tell anyway, so that's not the side of the issue I touch.
I must be bored
Amy and Mac just want to touch each other's butts all over the chan, I just know it.

Anonymous 9274

>>9273
>"why the fuck"
1. Because people got savaged and absolutely trashed and dragged through mud and hell for doing it last time, and now the very people who raked others over the coals for going their own way, are the people doing it; the hypocrisy is palpable and it's pretty gross, to be honest.
2. People tried very hard to 'think about' why it was done, and in fact, went way out of their way to try to understand the need and fill it before it got to that point, and those people were rebuffed, dismissed, and had their character further assailed and savaged for it, and the people who did so didn't even give them a chance, unlike the first time when people literally begged, pleaded, cajoled, tried to bargain, etc, for years before making the decision.
>compete
It's interesting because that's the last thing those people wanted in the first place, and were to this day so angry over competition being created years ago that when the competition wanted to make Ponychan whole again, those angry people refused to even consider the idea of sharing a home with them again and the day that it was supposed to happen, left without giving anyone a chance to reconcile.

"It's just so hilarious."
I'm glad this is amusing to you, and that you can be so dismissive and talk down to people about it like this is funny to you and it's all so dumb and silly that people would bother to care about it.
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Thauma!TURTLEsW8. 9275

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>>9274
Well the last time was stupid too then, if people wanna do it they should do it.

I can off the top of my head think of a few reasons why some of the splits we had happened. The most reason one, the Discord chat thing (and rather similar to it the Skype chat if it still exists) was because they're live chat platforms that also allow for private messaging, something this website can't give. Most other splits we've had were about communities splitting and hating each other and wanting to be further apart, which is probably impossible to cater to as the website itself, apart from trying to get the people to not hate each other again.

I won't point this "they're the ones that split apart" or something towards a specific website or community. I just meant it's no use to try and force people to stay on a website when they wanna go, since they have no stake in it. Much better for them to create their own space with their own rules to see how it holds up. Alternatively, we had cases where we merged back and discussed how we could cater to people with different preferences. But really that usually came down to people splitting into different boards in a website instead of different websites. It's the same thing in practice if you ask me.

Well it IS hilarious in that this is the thousandth time I see the topic come up and it's, some mix of tragic and funny.
I never said I'm sitting here laughing at people's misery, jesus fucking christ. But I do find the situation way overblown most of the time honestly. Again, not talking about the personal quarrels people have, because seems like you'll assume I'm taking people's quarrels lightly if I don't specifically mention that. No it's just that very small number of specific people are involved in these quarrels and the rest of the people are making a big deal out of these merges and splits that they don't have to, seems to me like.

Anonymous 9276

>>9275
If you have no stake in any of it and don't actually care, and aren't interested in the tertiary issues, and don't seem to be offering anything in the way of resolutions, and aren't commenting on the original post, the announcement, or anything related to moving forward, I'm baffled as to what you're doing.

Thauma!TURTLEsW8. 9277

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>>9276
I'm interested in giving my mind about why merges and splits aren't necessarily a bad thing, and are things we should learn from instead of shun.

Also, I don't want to go to bed.

Anonymous 9278

>>9277
At this stage, when entropic forces outweigh the individual weights of each place, it necessarily is a bad thing when the dissolution means there's nothing to learn; you can't learn jack when you're dead. They say what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, but if it actually kills you, that's the end. If your implication is that it's not necessarily a bad thing if all these communities die off faster than they have to, then I guess that depends on how much you care about these people.

Thauma!TURTLEsW8. 9280

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>>9278
Of course all of this is implying the communities wouldn't die off if you managed to have any other scenario happen. I'd say the population will keep dwindling no matter what happens as people move on to other things, whether you have one, two, or more pony topical chan sites.

But I was more thinking about the website/option creation part of things, and why it's just kinda wrong to tell people to stop doing it when they want to do it. That thought was isolated from the number of active users there are or the potential of "the community" dying off altogether or something.

I guess I don't agree that these decisions people make are necessarily speeding up said dying off process. Depending on how you look at it, may have even prolonged it. I mean if you had one website, then wanted different rules and a second website for it, but couldn't have it, maybe you'd stop being part of anything altogether. If that second website happens at least they become part of that website which is still technically part of "the community".

Anonymous 9281

>>9280
>first paragraph
Everything was bound to die off eventually. No one was stating anything about making permanent, immortal situations. Just not speeding up the process of dissolution.
>second
It can be argued subjectively that it's wrong and shouldn't be done if the intentions aren't good or if done for reasons that aren't very good, or if it wasn't necessary and/or their needs & concerns could have been met better, easier and with less baggage being created with some other solution.
>third
I understand you don't agree, but I see no argument supporting your stance, and most everyone else sees it differently.

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Remember when serials were killing the community? And then it was splinterchans killing the community?
Its like a monster of the week show at this point with you people. The community is dying because of time and there aint shit you can do to stop it, calling out discord for slowing down the derailing of threads is a thing you could do I guess but someone would have made one anyway official or not.

Maybe Astra will work with the staff and things won't stagnate like before and maybe good changes will happen. Maybe nothing will happen. The discord boogieman won't be a reason for either.

The discord chat is basically just a serial thread, and I know you guys really hate them, but if you look at /gala/ you'll see they don't last forever and its not actually taking anything away from the board, unless you're a serial thread and made a chat for the group, then you can complain.
I will admit theres way too many fucking text channels in it though, wtf man.

Thauma!TURTLEsW8. 9283

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>>9281
Agreeing that our opinions are different on if the split/merge decisions being bad or not, the only thing left apparent is that if they were done for malicious intentions then it's wrong, to which I'd agree, except I reiterate that I have little to no clue about that whole personal quarrel drama. That was stuff mostly between mods and admins in private chats afaik, or if it was anywhere else all i heard of it was people talking about it in the aftermath shittalking each other about how horrible [insert name here] is for doing something. Which is anecdotal, and I'd feel wrong for taking their word for it.
That's why I just plain ignore the personal quarrel section entirely.

>>9282
I think Discord was a good thing, it's not even a /gala/ thread because it being Discord it operates on different parameters. When I was in the chat I used it from my phone when accessing Ponychan was too bothersome. Chatting in it was easy, it was live, and there is voice. It's a different beast.
Then I left it, because things happened and I was made to feel uncomfortable. But that's my personal shit I guess
God, drama is so horrible. I go to Ponyville pretty much to check if Manley made a post. I check /site/ to see if there's a new hot drama topic. It's like watching a Brazilian soap opera full of pregnant people with cancer.

space 9284

>>9283
I meant its the same as /gala/ in that its just a circlejerk of people talking about random shit. Theres no topic like there would be on /oat/.
I love how good it is on phone too, its how I get through work.

Thauma!TURTLEsW8. 9285

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>>9284
Yeah but I mean, what'd you expect it to be good for other than random chat? Surely you didn't expect philosophical debates on it.
>oat
>topics
lmfao
I hear they circlejerk about horse dicks lately. Anyway, I hope they're having fun!

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>>9285
I don't expect it to be anything else, other people do apparently.
I think they're upset because instead of derailing threads into circlejerk they just circlejerk on discord now. Oh the humanity.

Anonymous 9287

>>9286
The idea is that's somewhat selfish; it's not bad to enjoy that place, nor use it to the exclusion of the site. It's selfish however to call the chat then the community. It's not; in fact, it's now it's own different community, and I don't think it's either structurally tenable or fair to people who prefer the site, and want to use it, to be outsiders in their own community, and to basically be told that a group of people (as you would both admit, a sizable percentage of which don't use the site and aren't members anymore) is "the community." Therefore my disagreement is in having an official chat at all. It's existence is neither good or bad, and people are not right or wrong to enjoy or use it. But at the moment it's benefits are one-way as far as the 'community' is concerned, and people who still make this place their home are on the outside looking in, and being told to stick it, deal with it, and that their feeling on the matter is not only irrelevant, but stupid and silly.

space 9288

>>9287
The people who prefer the site will still use the site right? Nobody has to be in the chat if they don't like it or the people there. Theres always been "official" chats for everywhere back since skype. I guess they were less official because they didn't get stickied usually but basically everyone that wanted to be in it was. If you don't like it don't use it, keep posting on the site like everyone else will anyway. If its not good or bad, then its not harming anything so why make it a big deal? Anybody can go and make their own chat if they don't like the "official" one, thats what happened on skype.

Or are you upset because some people there don't post on the site anymore at all? I honestly have no idea what your beef is.

Anonymous 9289

>>9288
It's promotion and setup here is designed to further its entrenchment as a substitute and it is not to the benefit of the site.

space 9290

>>9289
Ah, I don't think that was the intention, I also don't think it would work as a substitute since both are "different communities" and you can't really have more than 1 conversation in it at a time.
Maybe one day when the site is actually on its last leg and theres like 10 people left and theres no point in paying for the site to stay up then I could see it being used as a substitute. But even then the official chat wouldn't and everyone would have their own chat with their circle of friends that they used more anyway.

Anonymous 9291

>>9290
Intentional or not (I believe it was), that is the effect being observed by multiple parties.

space 9292

>>9291
Like I said before, it sounds like another "monster of the week" to me. It wouldn't really work as a substitute and people would just go to ponyville or efchan if the site exploded. Even if that happened I still don't think its the discord's fault and would have happened anyway.

Theres plenty of real things you could argue is hurting the site, like admin/mods spending all their time there in a speedy chat and neglecting site duties or something.

Anonymous 9293

>>9292
It sounds like that because the situations are not equivalent, and these are not individual small-group collections, but rather a large and specifically endorsed warehouse for all the potential content and conversation, which is having the snowball effect of for every instance one doesn't feel like bothering with a post because 'everythings in the chat now' it accumulates into no reason to bother ever. The past situations can't be compared, when any offshoot or offsite was invariably the small fish nibbling at the larger whole, whereas now there's people rightly wary of something very important to us losing it's identity entirely, to a hastily and unscrupulously assembled usurper. It is interesting to note however that people jumping in here now to defend it are people who don't care about this place anyways and don't bother to be here except... to defend the chat. So let's turn it around; instead of asking why I or others care, why do you? I care because it's calling itself 'official' when it's absolutely not this community.
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☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfo 9294

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>>9262
I don't hate you. I don't legitimately hate anyone.

I just don't like you and don't feel you're the right person to lead the site. Too late now to be able to do anything to stop that, though. Just remember that you've got a not insubstantial group of people on your shoulders and you need to do what's best for them.

Anonymous 9295

Unlike my colleague Ember here, I do hate him, but that's personal as much as it is professional. Though I don't think it's too late at all. There is always time, until all time is up. The personal portion wouldn't be helpful. The professional aspect is well known to relevant parties.

High Speed Meme Train!ScyphTlOY6 9296

>>9293
I dunno, that just sounds like the typical power creep of the average monster of the week show.

Anonymous 9297

>>9296
The idea that the cumulative effect of all these instances, is somehow insignificant, and that now one which is (proportionally) larger and more powerful than any it's faced in the past, is not an existential threat, is a laughably shortsighted view.

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>>9293
Thats basically the exact argument people gave for serial threads. "Everyone is hiding in their hole not adding to the site and taking away from the whole" Every chan has had an "official" chat and pchan has had multiple. I haven't seen a single one last long enough to seriously hurt the site. Especially if a bunch of them don't post on the site anyway. All the similar situations in the past can be compared because it is the same, except discord is a better program. Its still completely different from shitposting on an imageboard.

I used to visit /oat/ more before the discord and it wasn't all that fast, from what I've seen since I've come post-discord it looks about the same.

I've been lurking since the beginning basically, like Thauma said this shit is like a soap opera and I can't stop watching. My intention is not to defend the discord as I care even less about it than this site, but to say you're being silly, or maybe over-dramatic would be a better word.
And from posting in it today, it looks like this community to me. Everyone in there is from pchan. If you mean to say people that don't post here often anymore aren't apart of the community anymore and should get out of your chat reeeeeee, thats pretty rude tbh. And can you really blame them for not posting here that often anymore? The /pol/shit was getting to be a bit much. And some people don't post anywhere anymore but still want to talk with everyone they care about.
But hey, maybe Astra will make pchan great again.

Anonymous 9299

>>9298
Astra isn't going to do anything. Macil will be doing the doing, and this was nothing more than a way to more easily facilitate his decisions - most of which he and fenolio had already agreed upon but due to personality conflict couldn't move forward on. Don't make any mistake that any improvements are Astra's doing or weren't plans that were made long before now but simply stagnated due to stubborn people butting heads over how to do so.
>often
"Ever."

space 9300

>>9299
The Astra part was a joke, not that I don't wish him the best.
Who in there hasn't posted here ever? I've definitely neglected this place in recent years but I recognize almost everyone there thats posting and the ones I don't the rest of everyone seems to know.
Shit we put Nepgear in the efchan chat before he ever posted on efchan, which he's done all of maybe 3 times during group shitposting. I don't see why its a big deal.

Anonymous 9301

>>9300
I know you don't see. You answered yourself as to why.
And you're still simply stating that it's the same as the past without any good argument except that they're similar; of course it's 'similar', but is proportionally very different, and with more lasting potential consequence in a very crucial time.

space 9302

>>9301
How is it proportionally different though? It seems like mostly the same handful of people talking while most of them don't talk. Basically the entirety of efchan is in the efchat and thats super slow now months later. Seems proportionally the same. I'd argue that was even worse of a situation because between that and the overwatch chat posting slowed down to getchan levels there and its way more stagnant with absentee admin/mods than here is. Now everything balanced out.
And if a bunch of them dont post here ever its not hurting the site at all no matter what they call the chat.

I still don't see the problem. What do you think is going to happen? They made the chat to shut down the site? They made the chat to siphon posts and then laugh at the site? I don't know what else could be a negative outcome of it, and neither of those things are effected at all by it being called "offical" or having people that don't post here anyway post in it.

Anonymous 9303

>>9302
You want to see this from solely a conceptual standpoint instead of the reality, and it's doing nothing except dragging it out and making it look like drama vs 'heh silly dumb drama' people.

9304

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>>9294
I doubt I could forget that if I tried, I've always had a group of people on my shoulders as the only decision maker for the /rp/ community on the site staff.

Now it's just substantially more people and more communities who all want different things, and if I fuck up there's no one above me to help fix it anymore.

>>9299
The rule change was entirely agreed upon by me and Macil, however you'd be entirely wrong to operate under the assumption that I didn't take that a step further in initiating what I felt were necessary changes.

Not only that I was driving it to be done immediately without any prompting.

You can make me your hated enemy and give all credit for anything that I do to Macil, that's fine, as long as things are actually being done and are progressing it's irrelevant what you think of me.

>>9300
Thank you for the well wishes

Anonymous 9305

>>9304
No, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be wrong, since it also wouldn't be an assumption.
And no one's going to get any credit, actually, since even what has been done is overdue, and which you (and everyone else in any position) had far beyond ample opportunity to push for work to get done, and failed. And if you believe "alright I guess we'll finally start cleaning this mess up (a mess we created in the first place)" is worthy of any credit, you're already lost.

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>>9303
I'm trying to look at the big picture, in a month or two the chat probably won't be as active, 4-5 months from now it'll probably be super slow. I don't think it'll have a lasting negative impact on the site.
I don't see the "reality" because you won't tell me what you're worried about, which is what I kept asking for in basically every post. But thats cool, I should really jump back on ffxiv anyway.

Anonymous 9307

>>9306
I'm worried that at a critical time in making a concerted effort to shape up and revitalize "our" community we're self-sabotaging needlessly in a one-way relationship.

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>>9307
I don't agree and think you're worrying too much, but that sounds less "silly" than how you were describing it before. I don't think calling it "official" or having people in there that don't post here much/ever have anything to do with that. If anything maybe they will post here more/at all. Shit I'm here so thats one.

Anonymous 9309

>>9308
I can only say I disagree on the first part. The clear endorsement and how it's used has given rise to a sentiment against the site, and already there's a feeling of smug superiority. Not only is this to be expected with any newfangled toy and with any shiny new technology, but the unavoidable curiosity/fascination with a said new thing is happening at exactly the worst time, along with how it's basically telling people 'oh, there's way more people here to talk to, people you'll never even see at that dumb old fogey site.'
I'd welcome the chance to see you around more, but is that sentiment common to anyone but you right now?

space 9310

>>9309
> how it's basically telling people 'oh, there's way more people here to talk to, people you'll never even see at that dumb old fogey site
I thought the same thing for a minute with the old efchat on skype, there was a handful of people that still talked there that didn't post on the site anymore. Ultimately it ended up as the Gandalf chat and sometimes some other people would go in there and talk with him. Those people never came back to post, but they wouldn't have anyway because they didn't like it anymore. Same thing here, and you can't blame the people for wanting to talk to them because they like that person and don't want to never see them again or something. But the chat will slow down, and the people that want to post will, the ones that don't like the site anymore won't.

The discord wasn't made yesterday, the reason I went to it was because of this drama so if others are the same the dust will probably settle in a bit and it won't be an issue.
The biggest problem I feel isn't "come here and talk to these cool people" but "I don't want to go to pchan because its been shit recently" which will also hopefully get better with time and the new changes whatever they are. Webms with sound is a great bonus, glad that finally showed up.

I don't know because as we've established I don't know who still posts here regularly or who is in there thats completely new.

Anonymous 9311

>>9310
While I can hope you're right, and do, I don't like to leave things to hope whenever possible. I respect that you don't think it'll be a big deal, I hope it won't be, but I prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

Ziegler!Love7j/ioI 9312

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>>9260
I don't use Reddit, and therefor have never heard of it.

By the name, though, I can say that no, I probably do not like it.

>>9257
First, your thoughts on the Discord are completely opinion, no basis in fact. Correlation is not causation. The website isn't slowing down because of the Discord, nor has it slowed down because of Ponyville, or efchan, or whatever else splinter sites exist. People who have no intention of posting here anymore going over there and posting is not the catalyst for Ponychan slowing down. Ponychan being an overall toxic community full of political threads and ill-intentioned shitposting is what is slowing the site down, by pushing away the people who actually have something good to contribute to the chan.

Second, all I have seen you do in the past few months when I come back around here IS insult people and complain about the website, which does nothing to make people want to come back. If you really were interested in bringing the community together, you wouldn't insult the people who are leaving it, especially when they are leaving it BECAUSE of people like you insulting them. Also, people change. Just because someone wasn't mod worthy in 2011/12 doesn't mean they are not going to be mod worthy in the future, or that they aren't now, or when they were made into mods. You can talk conspiracy theories about people becoming mods because of brown-nosing and dick sucking, but in the end all you have is your preconceived ideals about those people based on actions or events that are 5 or 6 years old now (or 3 or 4, or even 2. Even 1. But that's a philosophical discussion for another time), and nothing else to show for it.

And finally, third, just because you've been around for a long time does not mean you know what is best for the site. Just because you successfully predicted a few times that something would end badly does not mean you had any knowledge or experience about it that would actually make you anything more than a nay-sayer (though you may have, I'm not assuming you didn't). You know who else has been here since 2011/12 and has seen all the shit that this site has gone through in all this time? Me, I have. Yet I don't go around acting like I know better than everyone else on how to run the site, or acting like my opinion should somehow matter to people jsut because I've been here for so long.

Thony, at least, has experience behind him, and all I've ever seen you do is bandwagon behind what he says. So, if anything, you're predictions were his, and the credit for knowing when something would end badly goes to him, not you.

I don't dislike you, not anymore. When we played Pathfinder together, you were a pretty cool guy. But every time I see you here you are nothing but a salty asshole to everyone, save a very small group of people. In that way, you're no different than the people you claim to dislike for that same reason

ED: this is not me acting like my opinion matters in the slightest. Astra told me to respond, so I responded with what I felt.

>>9261
That's nice, Thony, but means very little to me given what I have seen lately.
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❄️Anonthony!KeNormieZc 9313

>>9312
>all I have seen you do
This is a fallacy, one of a selective context. You only ever see him in certain situations - usually because you come around to see an issue or an argument, so of course you only see him arguing or raising a complaint. So you might be right - you only see him doing certain things, but he's right too - he doesn't only do those things, you just only ever see him in certain situations.

>Astra told me to respond

Well that sounds dumb, the new admin telling you to defend him.

Ziegler!Love7j/ioI 9314

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>>9313
I am aware of said fallacy, thony, I'm simply talking from my point of view. Like I said in the post twice, I don't act like my opinion matters in the slightest.

And, honestly, I'm around here a LOT, even if I don't post. If all I've seen of ember is him doing those things, despite being around so much, then maybe he does those things too much.

>telling you to defend him

Well, if that WAS what he did, I would agree. But, no, I was talking about how I saw one of Ember's posts and he said "maybe you should respond". That's it. I wasn't even going to do it until I figured out something to say that wasn't just a direct insult.
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❄️Anonthony!KeNormieZc 9315

>>9314
Even in that context, advising you to respond to a clearly personal and irrelevant aspect of an argument which could only possibly derail it isn't a very smart choice, especially in the top position.

At any rate, accomplishing approximately squat at this point.

Ziegler!Love7j/ioI 9316

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>>9315
That's one way to look at it.

These threads always devolve into this sort of thing, anyways. Nothing is accomplished because there's nothing TO accomplish. We tend to turn simple announcements into giant arguments where we voice opinions about things that we can't control.
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❄️Anonthony!KeNormieZc 9317

>>9316
The things we can't control are often the things we most need to express ourselves about; for catharsis, for release, to work through them mentally and emotionally.

Ziegler!Love7j/ioI 9318

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>>9317
I agree with that, but I was replying specifically to what you said

>accomplishing approximately squat

In a way, that is this entire thread and every reply, both for and against Astra, in it.

Astra simply recommended I respond to a post I was interested in, rather than saying nothing like I tend to do. Despite my contribution being somewhat negative, it was a contribution that this site normally wouldn't have gotten, effectively bringing activity to the website.

...is another way to look at it.

❄️Anonthony!KeNormieZc 9319

>>9318
No need to be wry. Maybe if you had something to say outside of complaining about Ember complaining it wouldn't have been necessary.
At any rate, I'm made my support for most things, and my opposition to a minority of it, clear and reasoned, and there's no more to do for now.

Amy_of_Shadows!LAINj6mQVk 9320

>>9273
>Amy and Mac just want to touch each other's butts all over the chan, I just know it.
wait what

Starshine!Laura/wmXM 9321

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I said a hip
Hop
The hippie
The hippie to the hip hip hop and you don't stop

Amy_of_Shadows!LAINj6mQVk 9322

Also, Ember le sucks jejejejejejejeje

Ziegler!Love7j/ioI 9323

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>>9319
I have literally no complaints to throw out about anything other than the behavior of certain people on this chan, in this case Ember. And this was the best place to do so, seeing as literally nothing stated in this thread matters in the least to the direction the site is going, making it better to say something here rather than making a thread just to get into an argument with him.

Anonymous 9325

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9327

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>>9321 the rock it to the bang bang boogie, say up jump the boogie, to the rhythm of the boogie, the beat

Thauma!TURTLEsW8. 9328

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>>9322
Here's a (you) for your effort to be in the discussion!

Anonymous 9333

Ownership of the chat should be transferred to Macil.

Trips confirms.
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Anonymous 9334

>>9333
Unsure if this would be good or bad.

Insufficient data on Macil.

Amy_of_Shadows!LAINj6mQVk 9335

>>9328
Thanks i can die happy now
;_;7

Anonymous 9336

>>9334
The owner of the site who salvaged it from Orange's ransom demand of five thousand dollars, who has been in the pony community longer than any of the other options, when the alternative is chat ownership being someone who may or may not be an admin permanently and who concern has been raised about their intention and decisions and who has plenty of people with issues with them doing both, when Macil is basically the most neutral figure ever to be involved and who has never displayed an emotional outburst or bias against any user in half a decade of involvement and who is basically a solid rock on which to anchor it

Starshine!Laura/wmXM 9337

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>>9327
Now what you hear is not a test
I'm rappin' to the beat
And me, the groove, and my friends
Are gonna try to move your feet

9339

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>>9337
See, I am Wonder Glam and I'd like to say hello,
To the black, to the white, the red and the brown, the purple and yellow, but first I gotta...
Bang bang. the boogie to the boogie, say up jump the boogie to the bang bang boogie.
Let's rock. You don't stop. Rock the rhythm that'll make your body rock.

🍎 {BUG Commander} Anonthony (Ponychan Rebel Ataman) [♦♦♦♦] 9340

>you will never lay your head in Starshine's lap after a long day and have her stroke your hair
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Mac !RevGiOKgRo 9341

>>9340
If she was on more often, that post wouldn't hurt as bad.

❄️Anonthony!KeNormieZc 9342

>>9341
it still feels bad, man

Amy_of_Shadows!LAINj6mQVk 9343

>>9340
>>9341
>>9342
I don't understand

EquestriaGuy!1DerpyVA.6 9344

>>9111
Good job, Fen. Thanks for carrying the burden.

Mac !RevGiOKgRo 9345

>>9343
Starshine is a good poster.

Amy_of_Shadows!LAINj6mQVk 9346

>>9345
yeah?

Meme Monk!ScyphTlOY6 9349

fen a shit

Mac !RevGiOKgRo 9350

>>9346
It would be nice to see her someday too.

Starshine!Laura/wmXM 9353

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>>9341
But I'm on every day.

StarMane 9354

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>>9312
hehehehe

its satire at it's finest
I used to main mercy, so I find it funny sometimes
as for reddit, im kinda the same.
i keep tabs and follow news, but mostly i barely spend time on the computer, even including the time playing overwatch
didn't mean to make waves
>>9323
im jelly of ur mercy folder
if i was a poster of more integrity i would try to have character continuity like back in the old days... but i dont worry anymore
my name lives on in the deep vestibules of ponychan with scorned rememberance while I flourish in real life

Anonymous 9463

>>9233
tangy is a closeted asshole, tbh

Anonymous 9511

>>9463
Ember pls

☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfo 9518

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>>9511
That wasn't me?

Lisbon 9629

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>>9463
>>9511
>>9518

It's not me either but he's right.

Anonymous 10231

dude drama lmao
Can you guys get anything right?

Mac !RevGiOKgRo 10232

>>10231
not by themselves lol

Meme Monk!ScyphTlOY6 10240

nuck fefolio

10241

>>9312
Everyone keeps saying that the good people are getting scared away, but whenever I check up on one of these splinter sites, I never see any content that I want to participate in. Maybe it's mostly bad people that leave and there are only like a handful of actual problematic posters here that these amazing wonderful quality people are giving up on their community for.

Sweetie ViaPony 10243

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>>10241
Just because someone is scared away doesn't mean they've gone to a splinter site. Maybe they were scared right out of the community. I've pretty much stopped visiting ponychan-likes all together, though I'm not sure I was ever one of the Good People.

10244

>>10243
We'll sure, if there was one splinterchan full of all the people I liked that got bored an left because of shitposters, I'd be there all day just circlejerking too.

Mac !RevGiOKgRo 10246

>>10244
New MLPchan when?

Anonymous 10247

Answer my email and/or ban me.

Sweetie ViaPony 10250

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>>10246
I'm starting to think Ponychan is the new MLPchan and Moonychan is the new Ponychan.
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Anonymous 10251

>>10250
That is exactly the case, except now neither has half of the good things about them and are both, somehow, led far less capably, and instead of making each other better by forcing them each to be responsive and attentive to their userbases, they've made each other worse by attrition. Really, it's the worst of all possible outcomes.

Starshine!Laura/wmXM 10254

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>>10251
I've never really had an issue with Ponyville's leadership. They follow their constitution fairly well.

Mac !RevGiOKgRo 10255

>>10254
>constitution

I find it oddly funny that they even have one, but hey, if it helps out.

Anonymous 10258

>>10254
Wow thanks for that.

10261

Lol I think its due for me to Shitpost in safespacechan

Mac !RevGiOKgRo 10263

>>10261
wow it's fuggin nothing

🐈🐈UMR🐈🐈!SUCC/WBAqg 10267

I've never had a problem with Moony u guys are just making this up xd

10268

>>10263
i forgot

cant be bothered

maybe when i get drunk

Mac !RevGiOKgRo 10270

>>10268
What comedy would it make anyways?

Sweetie ViaPony 10277

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>>10267
I don't really know him well enough to have had a problem with him.

Anonymous 10278

I don't see why the head mod changing required a big drama thread.

Anonymous 10284

>>10278
Because Macil needed someone to publicly take the fall for the last 2 years of his intractable bullshit, since he can't be assed to ever face the criticism for his decisions/nondecisions, and needs to use the staff as heat shields to deal with it all, and because he can't admit that it didn't actually require an administrative change to get things done, just for him to stop being a jerkoff and disrespecting his 'partner' every single day through absence and ignoring. Now he can 'allow' things to get done without ever looking like he's the one who fucked it up in the first place through inaction and failing to understand anything about a community he was never a part of prior.

Anonymous 10286

>>10278
10/10 b8
He wasn't "head mod." He was co-admin; equal partner, allegedly, and in fact, supposed to be co-owner; by any objective standpoint, still is. Don't remind Macil of that, though.
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Elicoor13 10287

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>>10278
then you don't know ponychan, at all. drama on the board reserved for site issues is a part of the ponychan experience, and drama about administration is simply part of the site.

hell, does anyone know how soon it took for people to start complaining about orange? i know it was within a few months of the site going live.

Anonymous 10293

>>10286
Can and does Macil do what he wants without oversight?

Can the co-admin do anything without Macil's oversight and agreement?

It's pretty apparent that the positions are not equal nor are they treated as equal by the people that hold them. The co-admin thing looks like something Macil agreed to once upon a time to quiet the populace. And Fen never actually got any of the passwords required to even potentially enforce it, meaning Macil could just completely ignore it from the onset.

Anonymous 10294

>>10293
Not disagreeing.

That's exactly what happened.

🍎!AppLeJAcK. 10394

>>10284
>>10286
>>10293
>>10294
I will never forgive him for this, honestly, not that he'd ever stop being oblivious long enough to apologize anyways, and I deeply regret it.
It just snowballed immediately after that; first Moony splits right as we're trying to unify, without telling us to not waste our time and effort, then Macil immediately begins slowly stonewalling Fen out, crushing the love and care he has for this place and his will to work for its improvement, then the staff do a poor job of managing things (some of them blaming elements on the 'other' site they didn't like, for their own failure to be effective moderators and manage things, usually because they didn't actually want to do any work, they just like having shiny tags. They know who they are and how hilarious it is that they'd bitch about anything the 'other side' brought in), then these recent changes I'd have never seen coming or ever agreed to. It was exactly as Flutters put, a trainwreck. I've apologized before but I'll do it again, I'm sorry.


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