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☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10710

I do appreciate how we've had literally a week of zero communication between our so-called admins and the site as a whole. It's super great seeing that our admins are very good at paying attention and doing what needs to be done and, you know, keeping in contact with the site users about what the plans are.

What's really awesome is that the administration obviously considers the site so far beneath its meme-bers that they don't even bother telling us that they're busy or that they're sorry they haven't been able to get back to us.

You know, a month ago, when I said that something needed to be done to remove the redundancy between the site and the Discord? How's that coming along?

How about that whole thing wherein we were going to figure out just what the dichotomy between /oat/ and /chat/ was supposed to be? Any news?

Nope, because our admins are far too busy fucking the dog to actually have a chance to come online and discuss the future of this here imageboard, and I bet that, when we do finally see them, Astra will have been "sick" (what, did Slenderman give you that fucking cold, Astra?) or something equally stupid.

And of course we can't forget about the man, the myth the morass Macil who decides to ban people for an indefinite period, suspend the mod who fixes that, and then disappears back to /b/ and Friends over on /oat/ where he hides there amongst whomever deigns to give him the time of day.

You know, it's a good thing we have these two qualified individuals running the site, because I would hate to see where we'd be under the direction of someone like Fenolio. Could you imagine? We'd be fucking dead in the water, wouldn't we?
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AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10716

Nah, this won't help. They'll say they're doing all that, things are great, and because it's you complaining, it'll be dismissed out of hand, especially by the person who should least be making any decisions and most be walking away right now. >>10693
They (he, rather), doesn't see or believe that anything's wrong, despite anyone saying so, and dismisses them all for whatever reason possible, and doesn't understand why he and astra are unacceptable options for administrating our small remaining community, when it clearly ought to be in active, engaged members hands instead of someone who's never been a part of ponychan's community and some rp mod who doesn't even post here anymore.
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LisbonCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10718

My brain fizzled out at "fucking the dog".

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10720

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Literally better off with Orange

I'm amazed.

☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10722

>>10718
Never heard that saying?

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10723

>>10722
Usually it's rendered as 'screwing the pooch', but yes.

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10724

>>10722
I've always heard "screwed the pooch" but still.

☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10725

>>10723
>>10724
Same saying, aye.

Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10764

>/chat/
>discord
Literally fake news

Macaroni !RevGiOKgRoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10765

>>10722
I would not be shocked if we did have literal dogfucking going on.

Meme Monk!ScyphTlOY6Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10766

>How about that whole thing wherein we were going to figure out just what the dichotomy between /oat/ and /chat/ was supposed to be? Any news?

I was under the impression that pretty much everyone was happy with it as is.

☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10768

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10770

"While the vessel is safe, whether it be a large or a small one, then is the time for sailor and helmsman and everyone in his turn to show his zeal and to take care that it is not capsized by anyone's malice or inadvertence; but when the sea has overwhelmed it, zeal is useless."

!!LunaCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10794

>How about that whole thing wherein we were going to figure out just what the dichotomy between /oat/ and /chat/ was supposed to be? Any news?
That's already been in effect for a while. The thread is still open for continued feedback.

>You know, a month ago, when I said that something needed to be done to remove the redundancy between the site and the Discord? How's that coming along?

We're not just going to go out and delete an active discord channel.
However, we did already remove the links to it from the site blotter and the /oat/ sticky.

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10795

why do you talk about things you literally wouldn't know anything about yourself
>we
what's this we shit
>ignores literally everything else
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!!Luna ## AdminCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10796

>>10795
I'd like to remind you of the /site/ board standards.

If there was some specific plan about the discord that OP was referring to, then I'd have appreciated it if some more context was given or the previous thread was just bumped.

Other topics here have active threads with more discussion in them, I don't think it would be best to split it to here.

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10797

id like to remind you that you are not now nor have you ever been a part of this community and your involvement any further is a stupid farce that almost no one wants and immediately regretted

but at any rate, sure, feel free to actually say something in any of those threads, especially in re: certain baldfaced lies(USER WAS SENT AWAY FROM /site/ FOR A WHILE FOR THIS POST)

☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10798

>>10794
>The thread is still open for continued feedback.
And yet there's been nothing from the admins to drive said discussion. You've not even begun to close that thread. Read through it and start replying to them and offering ways to do things that the users want.

>We're not just going to go out and delete an active discord channel.

Curbing redudancy does not equal deleting it. As much as I think we have never had a need for it, I'm aware it's not just going to go away, but something needs to be done to it so it doesn't just take up what /oat/ and /chat/ are meant to do.

Your reply here really doesn't do anything, but hey, at least you've actually decided to look at /site/ even if you're not entirely sure what is supposed to be going on.

>If there was some specific plan about the discord that OP was referring to, then I'd have appreciated it if some more context was given or the previous thread was just bumped.

This thread is literally about the lack of administrative input on active threads for OVER A WEEK. That's an issue that needs resolving, and you and Astra as admins have two legitimate responses. Either own up, step up and be responsible, or step down and let people who actually care do the things that need doing.

Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10801

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what if i just do nothing and ban anyone who points that out
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!pinkie78OsCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10802

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Here we go again.

!!LunaCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10804

>>10798
>Curbing redudancy does not equal deleting it. As much as I think we have never had a need for it, I'm aware it's not just going to go away, but something needs to be done to it so it doesn't just take up what /oat/ and /chat/ are meant to do.
Do you have any specific ideas on how to make it different?
Your last thread called for it to be shut down. I skimmed its replies again now and it's almost entirely unrelated discussion about the staff itself. If we don't even have any ideas better than shutting down the discord, then the most likely result is that it's going to continue existing, but without many links from the site advertising it.
Okay, there was an idea about moving mature content entirely off the site to there, which is at least the right kind of idea, but I'm not sure it would be a very popular one.

☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10805

>>10804
Like I've mentioned in Fenolio's thread about this whole shebang, link the site in the Discord. I hope Astra's started doing that - make "chatrooms" for the boards that only contain links to the boards and descriptions of the baords themselves and don't allow posting in these "chatrooms."

The idea is to focus on bringing content to the site rather than letting things stagnate whilst people just post in the Discord due to faster replies.

!!Luna ## AdminCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10807

>>10805
>- make "chatrooms" for the boards that only contain links to the boards and descriptions of the baords themselves and don't allow posting in these "chatrooms."
So the discord server channel list would just be full of links to the site? Would there be any real functional channels in it too?

As it is, the Discord server has one really active channel, so extra links in the channel list pointing to stale never-updating channels probably wouldn't have much effect on users that weren't using the channel list much anyway.

Hmm, we could make a discord bot that posted a link in the discord chat every time a thread was made on the site. That might accomplish the goal well.

☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10808

>>10807
Something needs to redirect back to the site is all. A Discord bot post should also contain a portion of the OP so that people know what the thread's about.

Also, you could make a single channel that links to each of the boards with short descriptions of them rather than one "channel" for each.

EquestriaGuy!1DerpyVA.6Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10809

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This is a lot of drama for a horse fanny fetish site

vynnCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10813

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You know, when you said in B&F the other day that when you get home from work, you'd rather just relax than deal with anything on the site, I can completely understand. Because I'm the same exact way. My weekends aren't devoted to stuff like that because it really isn't important to me.

But you know what the big difference is? I'm not the administrator of the site. Not having a leadership position affords me not having to give a shit. And I can let anyone who actually does care and want to put in effort deal with things.

So... why exactly are you the admin? Like, please detail why you are. Why are you the one in charge of the site when all you want to do is just relax?

Literally no one would care if you wanted to just goof off most of the time if you werent seated at the top. You'd get to just post whatever in B&F and everything would be fine.

Like... it really seems like this is just win/win for everybody to be honest???

!pinkie78OsCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10816

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Let's see if my amazing powers of deduction work again this time.

>>10813
>>10814

I'm willing to bet that by this point Macil has already stopped paying attention to what goes on here so unfortunately these posts will go unanswered. As right as they are and as much as he really needs to see them, he won't.

I'm guessing because they aren't "relevant" to the topic of the thread. That's pretty much the only line of reasoning I can think of for his choices in responding to posts.

So this frustration will only continue to grow and grow until more people start "harassing" him and we get more bans and more frustration as he continues to make everyone who gives even an ounce of a shit about whether or not this site lasts another year miserable.

And if by some bizarre miracle he does check this thread again and sees this I'll probably get banned for saying all of this, because God forbid someone displays even a slightly negative emotion when it comes to talking about him or how the site is run. That's clearly grounds for an objective ban and not at all because he's a petty human being who only cares about how things affect him.

Yeah I'm just making it easier for him now but fuck it.

>>10809

I also love when people who don't care about this keep commenting on how they don't care about this.

Really helps with the discussion.

EquestriaGuy!1DerpyVA.6Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10818

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>>10816
I very much care. I also find you all completely without self awareness. You're all wild eyed and frothing at the mouth over the lack of involvement of an admin of a My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic fan board. I don't know what you think an active admin would do here, there's nothing currently stopping you from talking about weeb shit and guns and "today's my birthday!" on /oat/. Crimson, Fen, you, and everyone else have been here 6+ years. You're all pretty cool cats, but at this point there's nothing that should be getting anyone worked up, even an admin you all think is shitty, especially not what I'm guessing amounts to whatever minor quality of life changes you'd want an active admin to make to the site.

!pinkie78OsCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10819

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>>10818

I can't speak for everyone else, but I'm involved in this because I'm thinking long-term. If we have two people in charge who either don't care enough to put in the proper effort, or just can't, then that means the site has a time limit before it dies off.

If something actually damaging to the site happens, like on a coding level or we get swarmed by spammers again, how can we trust that the current administration will do anything about it? If they can't help with the minor things, how can we believe they'll fix the major things when they happen?

Plus this site is basically built on communication with its users. If two users can't communicate on a civil level with one another, they can just ignore each other. But if a user can't communicate with an admin, it's a much bigger issue, because it means any grievances they have are likely to get ignored or brushed off. That contributes to animosity and distrust and in a worst case scenario, results in users leaving the site.

Which is already happening, from what I understand.

If there aren't enough users to post on the site, it'll eventually become redundant and die off. That's why people care to keep talking about this. I don't want to have to look for another imageboard without the same community to fuck around in, but if this doesn't get fixed soon enough that could be a reality.

EquestriaGuy!1DerpyVA.6Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10820

>>10819
Just to add to the point you've already made about linking back to the site, If you want to encourage traffic back to the site, from the discord, maybe you and others can make an active effort to create threads on ponychan, based on what's currently being discussed in discord, and link people back to those threads. Discord should amount to side commentary in relation to and support of active ponychan threads. Ponychan's advantage over discord is that image boards lend themselves to well organized, easily readable discussions, where as discord is a clusterfuck of single line comments and random images. People will come back if you make what's being said on ponychan more interesting than what's being said on discord.

!pinkie78OsCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10821

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>>10820

I...didn't say anything about the Discord? I haven't mentioned the Discord at all in my posts.

I'm talking solely about the people running the site and how their inability to do it properly is causing damage to it. Way more than the Discord existing is.

I don't know how you got me confused with Ember here.

EquestriaGuy!1DerpyVA.6Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10822

>>10821
I mean um, not you. Ember.

Bringing traffic back from Discord is the best thing a user can do if you want the admins to care again and be capable of addressing your issues about responding quickly to potential coding problems that might arise. They don't care right now because of the staleness and low traffic. I think if you and others can breathe life back in, it'll solve many problems.
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!pinkie78OsCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10823

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>>10822

Wait, how the hell does that make any sense?

It's our job to make the admins care?

The admins should care automatically! It's basically their job to care! If they don't care right now, then like everyone else posting here has already asked, why the hell are they even in charge?

Furthermore, didn't you just say earlier that people are still making threads on /oat/ and activity is still going there? So by your logic, people are already doing that, and yet the problem persists.

Shoving more activity down his throat isn't going to make Macil suddenly care more about his job. As has been pointed out here plenty of times, he barely leaves the one thread he frequents, the few times of the day he's even on the site.

Fen!!Shining ArmorCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10824

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>>10823
>>10818
I had more to add than this, in particular to "Why people care so much about this." but i dont know if it would get me sacked or not when combined with everything else i've been saying, which is beyond retarded in of itself.
If you're the admin of a My little pony: Friendship is magic fan board it is literally your job to care about the board and it's community in a manner that makes people question your place on the autism spectrum.

Even orange cared more at this point compared to macil, thats the dumbest fucking thing about this situation.
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EquestriaGuy!1DerpyVA.6Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10825

>>10823

>It's our job to make the admins care?

Right now, under these unique circumstances, yes. Take the initiative, because right now here's your reality:

>you care about the site

>the admins seemingly don't but aren't going anywhere


>>10823
>>10824
So you need to be doing what you can to take the situation in your own hands, cut the admins completely out of the equation, and foster an environment here, rather than discord, that draws interest back to the site. If Macil truly didn't care, I think he would leave, he's just not compelled to invest in the site outside of his serial thread. Of course the only thing you can't do in the meantime is address technical problems yourselves, but you are completely capable of putting the practical direction, the spirit and intent of the site, in your own hands, within the current boundaries of the site and discord, and steer ponychan back to a place where the admins MAYBE care again.

That or you all can keep making threads here screaming for Macil to be impeached, and have them all fall on deaf ears.

For the record, yes, I agree based on the current environment, Macil needs to go, but until he either steps up or steps down, you guys and others need to be doing damage control and taking the initiative to run the site yourselves.

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10826

>>10824
At that point people might as well start posting on one of the splinter sites and use discord to supplement it.

Doesn't seem like it would be worse than this.

!pinkie78OsCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10827

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>>10825

That still doesn't make a lick of sense, because you're making the assumption that they don't care because of a perceived lack of activity. We don't know why they don't care - hell they'll probably come in here and say they do even while doing nothing to satisfy the people complaining about them - we just can see that they don't.

For all we know, they may not care because they just don't have any investment in whether this site lives or dies anymore.

And it's a little hard to "cut the admins completely out of the equation" when they have unopposed power. We could theoretically do as you suggest and just run things ourselves, and then have whatever work we do be undone because one of them came in late and decided to act based on what little they understand.

Point being, it shouldn't be our responsibility to do the admins' job for them. And I'm not going to just accept that that's how things are, because that's absolving them of responsibility, and that's bullshit.

Fenphone!GUARD5kv/UCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10830

>>10825
You imply its a situation where its either 'bitch at admins' or 'foster positive site envrioment' when most of the people here are doing both.

Solar Empire Commander (Admiral of the Imperial Navy)!Ritter1tDMCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10833

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Get you shit together people.

Stop being involved in petty civil wars since in the end it will lead to only one thing. Complete dissolution of the site. Noone wants it in long term but mind that a lot of us have a backup plan which is Discord or simmilar sites to stay in touch. If you think that people give a shit about site you are mistaken. It is just a tool for convenient communication. In majority people care about their friends and the groups they are part of.
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☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10834

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>>10833
That's, uh, not at all true.

Solar Empire Commander (Admiral of the Imperial Navy)!Ritter1tDMCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10835

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>>10834
Really?

Keep that ship up and see how many more will leave for good. A lot of great posters and friends are available only on Discord already.

Solar Empire Commander (Admiral of the Imperial Navy)!Ritter1tDMCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10836

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>>10834
And I do appologize.

We have same goals but maybe different methods.

Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10838

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>>10833
misunderstanding i suppose
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!pinkie78OsCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10839

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>>10833
>>10835
>>10836

Didn't see the latter posts so gonna start over.

While I understand your point about people caring more about their closer friends than the site as a whole, it's still better to have the actual imageboard format to work with, which Discord doesn't provide an adequate substitute for.

And while I might've said before that MLPchan should come back, or we should have some other imageboard made for us and to attract new users, if it isn't viable then we have to work with what we've got. And what we've got is shouting at the admins until they finally cave in.

I definitely understand being frustrated with them and wanting to just go "fuck it" and give up, but we should exhaust the option of talking to them before we do that. And blaming the problems of the site on each other isn't going to make things any easier.
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Solar Empire Commander (Admiral of the Imperial Navy)!Ritter1tDMCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10840

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>>10838
To stay away from open conversations and deal with it in private. Not everyone has to be open about those things.

Don't get me wrong I want to stay in here and protect those I dearly care about.
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EquestriaGuy!1DerpyVA.6Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10841

I like the idea of a bot that posts a link in discord when a new thread is created. Even a quote of the OP sounds cool. To make that have the effect intended, thread related conversation should be steered towards ponychan.


As far as technical issues go, which is !Pinkie's issue, I think if there was a bit more transparency of what issues arose, when they were reported, and the current progress/date of resolution, there would be a bit more trust in the admins regarding coding issues or whatever. To be honest, the CP spam was resolved quite well, even if the tricky fuck was good at getting around the site's filters. I haven't seen CP spam in eons, so Macil and them did a good job on that, and I think would do a good job if a bug or other problem came up.


I think EVERYONE involved cares about the direction and fate of the site, and I'd like to see you ADULTS stop yelling at each other on the internet and start communicating better and without all this damned hostility.

!pinkie78OsCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10842

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>>10841

Technical issues were one thing I brought up and were only an example of the central issue. I notice you had nothing to say about my point regarding communication issues. Even if they did do a good job regarding technical problems in the past, if they don't do a good job communicating with the users that won't matter. They won't be able to trust them to handle things if they can't trust them to just talk.

Which is why blaming the users for those communication issues is unfair, because while we're yelling and being "hostile", we're getting basically nothing from the admins in response. That only adds to the animosity that the users are feeling. And being condescending and blaming them for all of this sure as hell doesn't help.

EquestriaGuy!1DerpyVA.6Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10843

>>10842
No, I agree entirely there needs to be swifter, more open communication, both direct and through my example of a log of issues.

!pinkie78OsCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10844

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>>10843

Except I'm not talking about more direct communication, I'm talking about the admins willingly communicating with the users.

That isn't something that can be just fixed by a Discord chat, that's something they need to actually do.

EquestriaGuy!1DerpyVA.6Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10845

>>10844
Yar. We agree.

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10846

Out of curiosity, can I ask what the actual issue is?

I'm aware of the whole "admins aren't paying attention to us blablahblah" bit, but is there anything besides that?

I was under the impression that most of the issues that were brought up recently, those being the difference between /oat/ and /chat/ and the difference between the site and the Discord, had all already been addressed?

What exactly are we waiting for?

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>>10846
We're waiting for our next opportunity to bark at one another some more.

!!Luna ## AdminCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10848

Most of the posts here involve complaints that other issues went a week without additional staff responses. All of those issues have had staff responses previously, but we should be more responsive.

It would be useful if people could stay on topic more. I just skimmed the previous thread about the Discord to look for any other ideas that might've been missed. The thread is a small novel's worth at over 25,000 words! That type of thing takes much longer to respond to, and it's easy to miss actionable things in it.

We somewhat agree with the idea that the discord server can take away from site activity, and that it's valuable to de-emphasize it and/or find a way to have it encourage site activity. We've removed the stickied threads linking into it, and we're currently planning on having a bot post links into the chat periodically to new or popular threads.

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>>10846

A lot of the animosity right now stems from the whole Thony/Flutters debacle, which was very poorly handled on the admins' part. The ban over something relatively minor, suspending a mod for doing their job and fixing things - which even Astra admitted was the right thing to do - all demonstrated that the admins really aren't connected enough to understand the context of sensitive situations.

>>10848

OK, let me clarify again, we are not talking about staff responses. We are talking about admin responses.

You need to be more responsive. You need to be more of a presence in this community outside of one thread. You need to stop ignoring everything that you just don't feel like addressing.

How many times have people flat out said something to you directly and you completely ignored them on a whim? I've seen at least a dozen in the past week alone, and that's not counting stuff in /b/ and friends.

That is what's contributing to the idea that you don't care. Because despite what you've done on a technical side, on a personal side you've done nothing but make things worse.

Incidentally, chastising people for not staying on topic just because it's harder for you really doesn't help with that either.

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>>10850
I don't see much of a difference between staff and admin responses.

I don't agree with admins ignoring their userbase either, but what's the difference between staff responding as opposed to an admin? Either way the issue is being addressed and taken care of.

Also

>The ban over something relatively minor


I mean, he still broke the rules, and what was apparently more than once too. If you keep letting it slide it's just gonna keep happening.

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>>10854

There isn't, but when we get staff members speaking for the admins it just contributes to the idea that the admins are absent at best. Why can't the admins speak for themselves regarding questions directed at them? Why do Astra and Macil need Fen to speak on their behalf when they should just do it themselves?

If there's an issue on a specific board, then it should go to the mod of that board, yes. Site-wide issues should be addressed by the admins. That's the jurisdiction they hold.

And if we accept that the "harassment" ban was legit (the incident was detailed in another thread on here by both me and Fen) that still doesn't justify that it was a permanent ban. Especially considering multiple people have reported harassment on this site and the admins rarely if ever step in. So for Macil to issue a perma-ban for a "harassment" case that just so happened to involve him directly looks more than a little suspect.

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>>10855
True, but as far as the ban length goes we only really have speculation to go off of on whether or not it was a purposeful decision. Though you're not wrong in being suspicious, cuz it is. We just can't prove it.

I concede everything else. Questions directed at admins should be answered by admins.

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I'm just gonna say that I agree the perma ban sounds a bit harsh, and Flutters probably had the right idea to reduce it, but he should have spoken to Macil first.

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>>10857
apparently he tried to and got ignored if what I was told is true


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