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Go to bread Silvie Strength!TwiDasH7n2Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10552

Banning Anonthony and suspending TPWPAF is going to be a WTF-storm. You know this, I know this, the village drunk knows this. There are going to be angry arguments.

If you live in the U.S., I strongly suggest going to bed, since it's already midnight or later. The angry arguments will be much higher quality tomorrow, after people have slept.

Exhausted people make shitty decisions, write shitty arguments, and generally have a shitty time. These are urgent site events, but they are not so urgent that they need to be resolved tonight. The site will survive one night without TPWPAF's steady hoof.

LisbonCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10553

You're not my mom

Starshine!Laura/wmXMCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10554

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Tonight, I shall fulfill the role of the village drunk!

The Person Who Posts As Fluttershy (Element of Self-descriptive Usernames)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10555

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I'd like to ask people not to sperg out about this. or if they must do so, keep in one thread.

algolCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10556

>>10554
>six beers deep
Fuck you. I'm the village drunk tonight.

☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10557

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>>10555
>I'd like to ask people not to sperg out about this
Too late; Macil and Astra already have. My apologies for their behaviour. It's past their bedtime. Macil should've handed the site off to someone who actually does things on time and Astra should never have even been modded in the first place, so they're a lot out of sorts and have no idea what they're supposed to do.

You do a good job and it's really stupid of them to punish you for doing the right thing.

Starshine!Laura/wmXMCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10558

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>>10555
I may not agree with all of your positions from a moderation standpoint, but I think it's bullshit that you were suspended. That will be the extent of my sperging.

>>10556
Dammit algol, I'm drinking gin for this. I hate gin!

Crimson Risk !RISkQqf4EMCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10559

LOL had to read it twice

algolCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10560

>>10558
>not mixing your gin with mineral water and lemon juice
It's like you don't even know how to drink gin.

Solar Empire Commander (Admiral of the Imperial Navy)!Ritter1tDMCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10561

Wait what?
WTF happened during the night?
They are suspending mods that are actually doing something for this site?

LMFAO!

Crimson Risk !RISkQqf4EMCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10562

I'll just repost this here, since /b/read where I originally posted it is cyclic (and I'm not getting a reply), and to avoid making another thread about it.

>>41780181 (Astra)

all I ever really wanted was equal representation for our site among administration. and that involved a lot that didn't really happen in my opinion. if it has to be you, I guess I would be ok with it, but remember it's not what was originally agreed upon and there are some people who aren't ok with it.

I realize that I sometimes bring up stuff that happened a long time ago, and I like to think that things have changed for the better since then. But I don't really know. It's the only frame of reference I have, and that somewhat applies to Thony too. We really need to SEE the change, from an outsiders' perspective, for this opinion to change. There was a lot of bitterness built up due to disappointment. it's a bit too late now for the potential that could have been realized during the merge.

to your credit some things have actually been done and I think that's a good sign. if macil really is willing to cooperate with you as an equal partner then hopefully this could be a bright new age. but suspending tpwpf like that doesn't look good, especially given the timing related to the criticism toward macil! what's even the problem if he agreed the ban should have been changed? It just looks like ultra butthurt and vindictiveness and it makes people lose even more of an already damaged trust.
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☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10563

>>10561
They're doing it because the mod in question had the gall to criticize Macil.

It was also constructive criticism.
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Waifus are people too!YoRdlEjxQ6Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10564

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>15 minutes after last post and still no drama
Someone get macil out of bread, this is no fun.

Fenphone!GUARD5kv/UCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10565

>revert something an admin did without talking to them first.
>its agreed afterwards that was the right thing to do because the admin went overboard (again)
>criticise the admin in public a few days later.
>get suspended.
Its 10 in the morning and i need a fucking drink.

>hey we made a mistake

>instead of admiting to that and trying to fix what caused it, lets double down on mistakes.

☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10566

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>>10562
Nobody that's been paying attention trusts either of the admins anymore, and they shouldn't.
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>>10568
I don't play anymore, game sux

Starshine!Laura/wmXMCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10570

>>10569
overmeme dorks btfo lol

Crimson Risk !RISkQqf4EMCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10571

>>10569
o-ok
T.T

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>>10571
Sorry, the game was pretty frustrating sometimes and I should have kept more of that to myself. I just really don't like it anymore. Most of the characters I like are bad.

!pinkie78OsCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10574

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So I'm willing to bet that Astra and/or Macil eventually respond and maintain that they did the right thing, and they won't change their stances on either Anonthony's ban or Flutters' suspension.

People will get more disgruntled with them until the ban is lifted, upon which one of two things will happen: Anonthony will likely go back to making more complaints about how things are run until this happens again, or he actually leaves the site, and possibly taking others with him.

And rather than possibly try to convince people to stay on the site in the event the latter happens, the admins will stay the course and keep believing they're right regardless of what others say or do, even if it just makes things worse.

Let's see what happens.

Solar Empire Commander (Admiral of the Imperial Navy)!Ritter1tDMCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10575

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>>10574
>Let's see what happens.

Let's.

GrimeCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10576

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>>10574
i'd love to pretend there's a chance that they would actually stop and realize they're fucking things up, but at this point we've already seen that they're willing to lie, obfuscate, try to divert peoples' attention to irrelevant things, etc. they'll lock every relevant thread to prevent discussion, ban people who disagree, bla bla bla. does this all seem familiar?

what a shock that astra becomes co-admin and we IMMEDIATELY go back to the level and quality of administration of the shithole that was old ponychan.

it takes a certain, very specific kind of person to act like this and not realize how unbelievably shitty they are, but those people somehow always wind up where they -need- to not be. the kind of person who actually takes satisfaction and pleasure from being the admin of a place like this because it gives them le internet authority. guess i shouldn't be surprised anymore but somehow every time it actually gets me. oh look, we're dealing with spergy backroom shadow zamoonda tier drama bullshit again! who'd have guessed!

GrimeCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10580

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>>10577
i hate taking things seriously more than anyone. but unfortunately when you have a mod team full of diagnosed autistics running "social experiments" on the userbase 24/7 (for fuck's sake) the board just starts to get worse, and worse, and worse

this site has already gotten almost irreparably ruined thanks to macil. now we have astra up to accelerate the process. do you really want to post on fucking moonychan? because i don't

☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10585

>>10583
>they arent running a country lol.
They're both acting like they're the American president.

!pinkie78OsCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10586

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>>10583

Well, speaking solely from my perspective, as someone who only cares about the site as far as it's a vehicle for me to do what I like on /rp/, it's really not about being "owed" anything. It's about the ones in charge not doing the proper job they were asked to do.

Because that's basically what being in charge of the site is. People are asking you to maintain the site and make it the best it can be, while keeping the userbase happy and make it clear you are listening to them when they have complaints.

Just taking the wheel and driving in your own direction, damn the consequences, is easier, but you're guaranteed to lose users doing that. No, you can't please everybody, but you can at least keep things spread enough that people are at least content with how things are being done. The ones in charge just doing whatever they want is only going to result in more people being angry and dissatisfied.

Because, while they are the ones running things, if they really do care about keeping a steady userbase then they need to consider how they act. A site is only as good as the people actually using it, not solely who's running it.

Like I pointed out earlier, there's a chance that people will leave the site if this is mishandled any further. There have been plenty of people saying Anonthony should remake MLPchan. Even if these people are kidding, if I was in charge I'd look at that and consider how to possibly circumvent that if it does happen, just to be safe. Yet I doubt either Macil or Astra will take that seriously.

Even though a dissatisfaction with the modship was why MLPchan was made the first time around, but why would we want to learn from history, right?

GrimeCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10588

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>>10583
this has nothing to do with "rights." i seriously don't give the slightest fuck who's paying for it. if they weren't, somebody else could, easily. the current admins are completely unnecessary to the equation of keeping this site running. they could literally both kill themselves right now and the site might actually improve

>The pure fact is, if people dont like it, there is nothing stopping them from making thier own imageboard and just getting thier friends to move there with them.

you're right. or, instead of forcing it to escalate to that point, the admins could grow the fuck up and just hand their e-privilege off to somebody with a modicum of responsibility and literally everybody on this entire site would be better off for it.

GrimeCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10590

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>>10589
no reason to rush things and it's not either/or

for right this moment i'm giving them the benefit f the doubt and giving a .000001% chance that they have an ounce of maturity inside their shriveled brains and that they might see all this and go "shit, i really DID make a mistake. we should fix this." so until that number hits zero, which is rapidly approaching, may as well keep this up

i think you're also overestimating how mad i am about this right now. you've typed as much or more than me at this point, i doubt you're sitting there foaming at the mouth. just laying it out like it is and waiting to see reactions

Dusty Page!Nzixts.pngCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10595

I got pissed enough hearing about this particular truckload of Astra's continued bullshit to come try to post here, but there is already a legion of persons expressing precisely my opinion.
Carry on then.

!!Luna ## AdminCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10596

* Anonthony has been banned for a week due to an extensive period of harrassment.
* Anthony has received warnings and bans before, including for harassment.
* In mistake, a ban length was not originally set. It was set shortly after and will expire in a few days.
* Anthony recently emailed me asking for a ban.

Anthony isn't above the rules. This isn't because of a vendetta against him. This is sadly not unusual behavior from him, though something to notice is that he does seem to have a vendetta regarding the recent staff update, and seems very eager to stir up drama related to it. Things weren't done perfectly at that time, but I would like people to consider that having gripes at the same time does not put you above the rules. This is a pony board and we're doing our best to keep order.

!pinkie78OsCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10597

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>>10596
>>10574

Boy I sure hope someone picks up that phone.

Starshine!Laura/wmXMCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10598

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>>10596
Is TPWPF dismissed, or just suspended? It seemed heavily implied that it was the former last night.

I'm not disputing that Anonthony was over the line and deserved some level of moderator action against him, but suspending/potetentially firing Flutters for correcting the self-admitted mistake of giving him an indefinite ban really doesn't seem a good or rational thing to do in this situation.

EquestriaGuy!1DerpyVA.6Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10599

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GrimeCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10600

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>>10596
* we all know EXACTLY why he was banned, and it's because you got butthurt at a meme he posted, just like we all know EXACTLY why you suspended tpwpaf. the fact that you're referring to him pointing out your flaws as an admin as "harassment" is as telling as anything possibly could be about your state of mind and ability as an administrator
* another flimsy justification
* a "mistake" (nobody is buying this, either) which you evidently didn't want fixed
* epic meme

no SHIT he has a "vendetta" about the staff update. you guys are doing a frankly shit job. just like you clearly have a "vendetta" against him for pointing out. the fact that you think you can actually convince people that these aren't your reasons for doing what you've done is absolutely fucking hilarious

>it's just a pony board, so let me do literally whatever stupid, awful shit that i want to your pony board and fuck it up beyond comprehension

no

you're just missing a thread lock and a few bans to complete the perfect macil/orange response. so far we have all the other boxes ticked!
>slow as shit to even come around
>vague, mixed in with blatant lies and half-truths
>just straight up ignoring half of what people are angry about
>trying to make yourself out as a poor victim who's just doing his incredibly difficult job

lmfao

GrimeCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10601

let's talk a little more about just how truly EPIC this meme actually is by the way

>* Anthony recently emailed me asking for a ban.

"recently" as in not recently at all, sent in a completely different emotional state, an email which you apparently just fucking ignored when you actually received it, and only decided to act on when, conveniently, he had pissed you off.
yes you're clearly just doing as he asked lol :)

GrimeCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10602

## AdminCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10605

Fluttershy has been unsuspended after a one on one conversation with me and him, and a conversation with the rest of the site staff as a whole.
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>>10605
well memed
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## AdminCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10607

>>10581
>>10578
Since it was brought up.

Pipes was unbanned entirely because of his willingness to email and talk to me directly, which we did for about a week and a half before coming to an agreement on him being unbanned.

Not because of anything Anonthony did.

Astra Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10608

>>10606
lmao i typo'd unsuspended

!pinkie78OsCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10610

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>>10609

Here's the deal with how Astra moderates things when he's in charge:

He will follow the rules of an administration to the letter no matter what.

Which in some cases is a good thing, because sometimes you have to be strict with the rules to keep things under control.

But the problem is that he'll do this while ignoring the context of a situation. So in this case, it doesn't matter that everyone agreed that Macil's initial ban was too much. Flutters acted without consulting anyone else, and if that's against the rules, he must be punished for it.

So yeah, you're totally right, and I'd wager this won't be the only time this happens either.

The Person Who Posts As Fluttershy (Element of Self-descriptive Usernames)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10612

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>>10574
That never would have happened, whatever you think of any of the staff we're all aware that we cannot make this place run alone.

>>10611
It hopefully wont. I'm going to be bring up reforms to the appeal system up on Friday.

!pinkie78OsCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10613

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>>10612

Which part wouldn't have happened? I kinda covered a lot of ground there.

EquestriaGuy!1DerpyVA.6Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10616

I'm announcing that I'm suspending everyone from suspensions. You're all suspended.

In the mean time, go watch Rarity and Pinkie episodes until you all realize they're the best combo and 1st and 2nd best ponies respectively.

The Person Who Posts As Fluttershy (Element of Self-descriptive Usernames)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10618

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>>10613
Refusing to reinstate me/repermaing thons,
and then everything that results from that.

🍎!AppLeJAcK.Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10646

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Ok. I've waited it out. Well, let's clear it up.

I did post a meme of his head. I did apparently at some point a few weeks ago post him.
That's the extent of the agreed facts of the situation. Here's what's occured, most of this I've factually proven to the staff and none of which has or can be factually refuted by them;

>The owner and admin, of course being held to the highest standards themselves and referred to here as one entity:

>lied about an intense, constant barrage of 'email harassment' - which in fact I proved was 9 total emails over the course of the entire month, the most recent of which was 2 weeks ago now, which I was able to fit into a single MSpaint and give to the staff for review
>(apparently if you get a handful of emails you don't want and don't read anyways, it's harassment, so I guess your spam folder is harassing you right this moment)
>lied about some kind of insane stalking campaign harassing him 'across multiple threads' when there is literally only one place on the site that one could even attempt to interact with him, and that's exactly where the argument happened - like 2 weeks ago
>lied about some imaginary rap sheet of a million prior permabans - when I have none at all in the 2 years after the merge, and other than a board-ban, the single actual real ban in question I had prior was Orange perm'ing me for a post another user made and later admitted to making, and yet I dutifully sat out the ban for over a year before a new administration undid it and later apologized for it]
>lied vaguely about his 'name/info' being posted
>lied about me 'misleading users about it, instead of discussing it with staff'; the most baffling of the misleading statements, since it was said ... to one of the multiple staff members I discussed it with, in the same post they 'suspended' that staff member for their reaction to me discussing it with them!
>couldn't decide which lie they preferred, that he 'forgot to set a length' or that he 'hadn't decided on a length yet'
>tried to say that 'it wasn't meant to be permanent, he could always appeal' and then when I did in fact appeal to a staff member and that staff member appropriately reduced it to a week, they suspended him for it (and then changed the story and said he was suspended for antagonism, because obviously I discussed it with multiple staff members immediately, and all of them I talked to agreed it was complete BS, so the other justification was also false, to say nothing of the fact that he spoke nothing more than an opinion numerous staff including current and former admins have expressed in so many words regularly for the past year plus)
>made the unbelievably shortsighted and stupid move of publicly suspending said staff 'pending conversation' instead of just having that conversation first, which literally only accomplished pissing people off even more than they already were (instead of helping defuse a situation as a competent manager would), and made most people think you just make quick rash decisions in the heat of the moment instead of getting the facts first, and again all when this staff literally did the right thing that everyone later agrees was correct, and for publicly criticizing another team member which you did even worse of in the attempted shaming by announcing the suspension publicly, the only conceivable motivation for which is to flex power in front of everyone by humiliating an employee. fucking gross.
>have not corrected or removed any of these things, willfuly and purposefully misleading users about the situation, allowing a user and a staff member to be seen as the fully wrong parties and themselves completely innnocent and aggreived, and using position to make sure it can't effectively be refuted
>watched his boyfriend shit on my mental health in the only thread he goes to, (the definition of personal attack?) while I couldn't defend myself, while multiple users (and current and former staff) tried to reason with him and he either ignored them all or just shitposted around it as he let others deal with it (that is, lie and mislead for him)
>situation forced me to have my email conversations reviewed by staff who had nothing to do with the situation (when off-site activity is total bs to be used as justification anyways)

So this has been fun. I should be grateful they had the time for it, since other matters continue to get "sorry, I didn't have time" (if anything other than silence) from our dedicated administration, but I guess if it's the owner getting meme'd on they'll make plenty of time for it. I won't presume that anything will be done, let alone any apologies to Flutters or users for this dumb situation, since there is no accountability and no oversight for this new "we" that 'doesn't owe us anything' in charge and these baldfaced lies will stay up as the administrations official story.
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Solar Empire Commander (Admiral of the Imperial Navy)!Ritter1tDMCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10650

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>>10646
Do you have Steam?
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AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10651

Solar Empire Commander (Admiral of the Imperial Navy)!Ritter1tDMCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10652

🐈🐈UMR🐈🐈!SUCC/WBAqgCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10653

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Sooooo why did it take like 3 days to confirm it was a 1week ban?

Sweetie ViaPonyCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10656

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>>10653
They were probably busy deleting all his posts, which is no doubt standard practice when you forget to set a length of a ban.

Fenphone!GUARD5kv/UCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10657

>>10653
Work, sleep, conflicting timezones and needlessly long drawn out arguments.
For instance, i only have about 3 hours in the morning where i'm online at the same time as the macster and i also have to spend that working, cant speak for the others but there were likely similar problems.
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🐈🐈UMR🐈🐈!SUCC/WBAqgCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10658

>>10657
Wouldn't happen if I was a mod just sayin

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10667

>>10653
Same reason it's been 3 days since with no word.

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10678

4.

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10679

5

☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10689

6

C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10695

>>10689
Dang
Let me do 7 tho

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10707

>>10689
>>10695
>7 days, 15 hours
Wonder how rug-swept they think it all is

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Mewtini!LELnin/wowCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10751

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EIGHT! That's EIGHT days without word from the mods!

Ah ha ha!

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>macil shitting about in /b/read and pretending nothing's happening
>which he's partly right about since astra's been gone for like 10 days
mmm

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Nine.

Crimson Risk !RISkQqf4EMCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10771

Macil never should have even had the power to ban anyone anyway, he was only supposed to be our personal code monkey, the tech admin, while the actual moderating and community management duties were supposed to be in the hands of the moderators and community management admin. Now that he's proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he can't be trusted to be responsible and unbiased with it, it should probably just be taken away from him entirely. But we all know that will never happen because he answers to nobody UNLIKE WHAT WE AGREED ON WHEN WE MERGED!!

Macil, if I'd known how awful you were going to turn out to be I never would have agreed to keeping you on the merged staff. You backstabbed us all and robbed us of the chance to use the merge to make this site something good again, out of nothing but ego.

I'm sure you'll never read this and even if you do, you won't care. Have fun in your fucking serial thread.
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>>10646
You've been posting my photos and posted an edit of them while shit-talking me in unrelated off-topic conversations across the boards every chance you got. I gave a ban for harassment, which we do have a rule against.

>>lied vaguely about his 'name/info' being posted

Flutters edited the ban without discussion to say that the reason was for "posting name/info""posting personal information", which might have been a little misleading.

Not sure where "name/info" came from.
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>>10799
>now blaming flutters for that shit.
When lying you should at least keep your story straight.

It came from you.
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>>10799
So do you just not have anything else going on in life? You'd think that pulling this much petty bullshit on a site that doesn't need you with a community that doesn't want you seems empty as hell. Have you considered that everyone, yourself included, would be better off if you just left?

You can hang out in a serial thread without being admin. Everyone's used to people who aren't a part of the community sticking in those anyway.

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>>10812
What a great way to encourage involvement! Truly yours is the correct, righteous argument!

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>>10810
I don't know where the "posting name/info" line came from. It's not even all that wrong if a photo counts as info. I'm not sure where it came from or why at all it would even be such a point of an issue.

The ban wasn't enacted perfectly. I make mistakes. I find the site important, and it weighs on me how decisions affect others. If that hasn't been apparent to anybody, then I'm sorry for not being communicative about that.

>>10812
I gave someone a ban for harassment, and then a mod was suspended on the staff team for being a dick and not following procedures. But the way you talk me up as a scheming mastermind is flattering though.

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>>10851

Actually.

Thony posted an image of your head cropped onto a pencil drawing, which he didn't even make, in a post not even directed at you.

Said head cropping was based on an image that you yourself posted elsewhere on the site.

Then, when you permanently banned him for it, Flutters did the right thing and changed it to a temporary one, so that you could still say he was punished and the punishment was reasonable enough that people would stop calling for your head over it.

The technicality that he didn't tell anyone about it is hardly him "being a dick", unless covering up for your mistakes counts as being a dick now.

As I said in another thread, Astra even admitted that Flutters did the right thing, and here you are throwing him under the bus again.

Stop lying to the users. That isn't helping things either.

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>>10851
>I don't know where the "posting name/info" line came from.
It literally came from you, you said that to astra who then said it in the thread where the ban happened.
A photo does not count as 'info'.
It's an issue because "Name / info" heavily implies being doxxed or similar which is nowhere close to what actually happened, that being a meme image with your face on it which you yourself had previously posted on the internet.

>a mod was suspended on the staff team for being a dick and not following procedures.

>being a dick
That's new, i thought he was just suspended for not following procedure.
Guess literally everyone that witnissed itwas correct in thinking it was because he criticised you in public.
I expect my own suspension will be prompt.

Macil !!LunaCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10859

>>10852
I posted my photo years ago. Reposting it and shit-talking me and making edits as part is over a line for the site. I don't find it important to know he used a pencil or not.

There's more context about TPWPF's suspension in the next part of my post.

>>10853
The Name/info thing was never in his ban message from me. I banned Anthony from the view-by-ip page, I don't know what thread you're talking about. I don't think whether a photo counts as "info" is an important part of the ban regardless.

>That's new, i thought he was just suspended for not following procedure.

I thought that was a good enough summary of Astra's initial post about it.
>Users and staff are not banned for civil criticism. Though staff members are also expected to be cooperative in a team, not enforce rules selectively, or override bans without discussion.
>This type of antagonism isn't acceptable on /site/ or from staff members. As such I'm suspending you pending a conversation with the rest of the site staff with weather or not you'll be returning to the staff or not.

A quarter of the antagonism within the staff team, within the site and the staff chat, wouldn't fly in a real job, people would be fired possibly on the spot. The fact that it's an unpaid volunteer position doesn't mean even a semblance of courtesy within the team is entirely out the window; I'd kinda think it would make it more important since we don't have income from it incentivizing us to stick together.

I really miss the staff team atmosphere from when MLPchan was first created. It was friends who made a site together. I didn't expect that to stay the same forever as staff came and left, but I never imagined it would get to the point where the team was not just outright hostile but also that it was fully expected to continue functioning that way. I could deal with anything else, but that's just too much. I'm out. Thanks for all the fish.
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>>10859
Since you're quitting, the one last thing you can do is do this right.
Give the keys to Fen, as was always supposed to happen. Whatever else you need to make this happen, and happen right, we will do. I'll take the server payments from here.

Macil!/5s/TechmkCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10870

>>10860
My gripes with Fen or other staff members come down to us having been cogs in a system I've found I hate being part of. I'll help them enough to keep it going. They can probably keep it going decently.

My gripes with you are you being a dick, and you thinking you can get your way by being a dick to me and by pushing the cogs in this system to their breaking points against each other. That was always the only way you ever knew to motivate me on anything. I guess you thought you were the one to motivate me on working on MLPchan by doing that, but it was always the rest of the staff who motivated me. I loved working with them. That original staff has been long gone for a while now; it's about time I got the memo.
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>>10870
That's fine.
Hand the domain to Fen, tonight, don't delay.

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>>10859
>>10870
For what it's worth, I liked working with you on MLPchan too. Even though I had my own periods of inactivity. I've had my gripes with you as an admin here, but I guess that's water under the bridge now.

EquestriaGuy!1DerpyVA.6Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10879

Rewarding bullying seems to be the theme of the world the past 2 years.

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>>10879
If you think that's only been a thing the last two years, I've got some bad news about world history for you...

EquestriaGuy!1DerpyVA.6Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10892

>>10883
>Venmo's you 20 dollars.

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>>10872
You don't get your way by being a dick. Astra is admin. I don't care for the way any of them run a team, but he's the one I trust in that spot to keep the site going. Maybe he'll make adminship changes, that's his call.

>>10876
If by chance your complaints had anything to do with the very lax standards enforced on the site in the past or present especially in regards to the old deluge of racist shit-threads, then I shared the complaints. I think this situation is a good example of how little sway I actually had in any of that. I've felt so defeated getting blamed even by friends so often for shit I can't do anything about. ... I'm sorry if that's not quite what you meant. I think I'd like to catch up with you privately sometime.

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>>10906
And Fenolio is rightfully half owner of the site who was supposed to have access to the domain in the first place; it's not just his call.
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>>10906
To an extent, yes, but I did get the impression that you shared those complaints on at least a few occasions that I can recall. My main qualms had to do with the seemingly limited communication with staff (though my information on that is mostly secondhand) and with the community at large...though, given the way a non-negligible subset of the community at large typically treated you, I can somewhat understand the latter.

You're still in the Ponychan Discord, right? I can hit you up through there sometime.

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I think we should have an election to choose the one true leader of this Ponychan!

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>>10914
I vote Demonio

#FATLIVESMATTER
#MEXIT2017

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>>10914
Pipes for admin 2017

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>>10914
Tripchan?

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>>10916
>>10917
>>10920
Yeah that voting feature Macil was working on would have helped sooo much :^))))))))))))))))

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>>10934
lmao
I didn't even know he was doing that.

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>>10944
He was - 19 months ago.

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>>10906
>I don't care for the way any of them run a team
As opposed to you're not running a team in any semblance at any point.
>>10859
>wouldn't fly in a real job
The way you've done shit for 2 years wouldn't fly in a 'real job', buddy. You'dve been shitcanned from someone above long ago. That 'antagonism' they have is for a reason, it didn't just pop into existence from nowhere, guy.

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>>11024
>>11025
To be fair, what you do doesn't have to fly in a real job if you're the boss.

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"i'm sorry for lying about things to try to back up macil. sorry for lying about your ban history, which i was 100% wrong about, the reason for this ban in particular, which admittedly macil wasn't truthful with me about, and about 'misleading users instead of discussing it with staff', since you obviously discussed it immediately with multiple staff members before ever bringing it up with any users, and im especially apologetic to flutters, one of the hardest working, longest-suffering staff members, for my extremely shortsighted and public suspension which should never have happened. i hope you accept the apology and we can move on"

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