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State of /oat/, /chat/ and politics. Fen!!Shining Armor ## ModCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10280[Last 50 Posts]

There's been many concerns about the state of both /chat/ and /oat/, particularly in regards to political topics and their place on the site, as well as concerns about the status of the discord server.
This thread will be used to discuss and decide a solution to those concerns, along with clarifying the distinction between /chat/ and /oat/.
This post was edited by a moderator on .

Fen!!Shining ArmorCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10281

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>Forgot image again.
Damn it.

Personally speaking(As in, speaking as a regular user), i'd prefer if politics could be discussed without shitflinging but i can barely even do that in my own family, let alone on an imageboard with relative(hue) strangers.
My second preference would be politics placed in /chat/, so that the shitflinging can be self-policing to an extent and /oat/ is left as a safe space of sorts.
I'd rather we not have to remove the topic entirely from the site as it's quite broad, but that's just my preference for anti-censorship in general more than anything else.

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10283

the fuck is this still a problem?

jesus christ.

Chewy [Element Of Fortitude]!MUSIC.FbVYCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10288

I thought this was already resolved with the re-purposing of /chat/?

Banning politics from the site completely would be absurd, it's such a broad subject that it can be applied to almost anything in some way. Not to mention the user outrage.

It is virtually impossible to discuss politics without people getting mad at each other. But we're pretty much all adults here. We can handle another user saying "fuck you" or "shit opinion tbh" occasionally. I think the mods only really need to crackdown when it gets really out of control and people are unironically telling each other to kill themselves or being super racist and shit.

I don't participate in many political threads but I thought this wasn't a huge issue anymore.

Ashley!CNCtclhQl6Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10290

/chat/ is redundant, honestly.
All we need is /oat/ and /nsfw/. I hide half the threads on /chat/ as is (farting/diaper/bestiality threads), so why not just let people hide the /pol/ threads on /oat/?

Just my opinion.

Solar Empire Commander (Admiral of the Imperial Navy)!Ritter1tDMCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10291

>>10288
Tbh from at least early december when I started to lurk in /chat/ on regular basis I've seen only one political discussion that went totally out of control. One.
And it was pretty quickly contained by a mod. Most of the times people just agree with eachother or post memes.

Power Chord Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10292

I don't think it's as much as a problem as it was here (thank god).

But I do think there should have been a serial or some sort of controlled environment where that stuff could be discussed, or rather shitposted (But I guess that's what /chat/ is for now). Most people were tired of seeing that stuff on /oat/ and were pretty vocal about it. It should have been handled a lot sooner.

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10298

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I don't know what's the status quo of /chat/, but can't you just create a /dis/ board and dump all the politics there?

Chewy [Element Of Fortitude]!MUSIC.FbVYCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10299

>>10298

This might actually make sense.

Now that /chat/ is the main board for political discussion, and also porn, everything else is kind of getting flooded out.

Waifus are people too!YoRdlEjxQ6Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10300

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The only thing I really want is
>ban on racist/nazi material
>clear definition for what belongs in /chat/
I think the first one will happen soon, but I'm don't think I'm the only one that doesn't exactly know what separates chat and oat. Like I have a general idea, but no clear, explicit definition. I think that would be good.

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10305

>>10280
/pol/ shitposting goes to /chat/. Normal conversation can go wherever. Hide threads you don't want to look at. Seems pretty straightforward.

Starlight (Element of Alcohol)!firONHideQCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10313

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Six years later and people still can't figure out the difference of /choat/? And talks of the return of /dis/? This place really doesn't change.

Starshine!Laura/wmXMCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10315

>>10313
/dis/ will rise again

Crimson Risk !RISkQqf4EMCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10329

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in my opinion:

/oat/ should be the "play nice" board. no politics, no porn, no being a jerk without reason.

/chat/ should be the "anything goes" board. It's got porn, it's got politics...

that way they have a clear distinction and people can more easily seek the type of atmosphere they wish to participate in.

Astra(phone)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10330

This thread is also supposed to address issues with the discord as well.

Sweetie ViaPonyCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10331

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>>10330
Okay. I'll try to start. What are the issues with the Discord? I only know there are issues. Did I hear it's taking content from this site? Well, I don't think you should raise the content here by killing off the alternatives. We just need to make this place better, somehow. Or you have to, not we. I'm just here to watch.

☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10335

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>>10330
>adds a one line addendum not in the OP to say that this thread is meant to discuss the Discord as well
K.

Just gonna do some copy/pasting:

Discord
Fact of the matter is that you deliberately overlap the role of the Discord with the role of at least two boards on the site, and the redundancy needs to be curbed. The biggest thing that Discord should be used for is, simply put, a quick way to get in contact with the mods and admins of the chan to ask questions and to direct their attention to problems on the site. Other concerns that aren't urgent can be put on /site/.

Now, something the Discord WOULD be beneficial for is using it as a basis for chan set up online gaming. In other words, post on /oat/ and /chat/, etc. "Hey guys, we're planning on doing a community event on 'this game'. If you're interested, we've got a voice and a chat channel in the Discord and we're planning on starting it at 'this time.'" Great way to use the Discord as an extension of the site that doesn't overlap with the chan, supporting the community through events as a bonus.

The Discord as it is now, however, doesn't encourage people to post on the site. Why would they if they can get instant gratification on the Discord? Why would they if you're clearly not exactly willing to step up the rules to the same extent as on the site, despite saying they share a ruleset?

If you actually read this, it's obvious that I've more or less come to terms with the fact that the Discord isn't going away. I know it's a good program; I use it myself. What you actually DO need to work on is the relationship between it and the site and who you can end the redundancy. People don't post on /oat/ and /chat/ because they'd much rather circlejerk on the Discord. What needs to be done to end that overlap and how do you go about doing it.

/oat/ and /chat/
Like Risk said, /oat/ should be fairly "play nice" and /chat/ should be more mature. Politics on /chat/. Even with politics, however, you do need to draw a line at how over the top the sides get. As soon as any sort of racism or hate speech starts being involved, it's time to shut that stuff down. And to be honest, that should probably include a lesser warning for meme stuff ("Gas the kikes race war now" comes immediately to mind) because allowing the meme stuff through and not allowing the serious stuff would result in people exploiting that to say "Oh, I didn't actually advocate genocide on the <insert racial or cultural group here>, it was all a meme!" That shit ain't cool.

Another thing you can use both boards for is community involvement. Set up events, even as simple as playing online games for a few hours or what Fen does where he streams a pony season each week or so. Shove a stickied OP somewhere on one or both boards, throw a new announcement under the (now mostly obsolete) reply box, and go from there. There's a great thread about community baking on /oat/. Support that shit. Get other people involved. Link it on the Discord so the people there remember there's a fucking website they can visit and do stuff on too.

Fen!!Shining ArmorCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10336

>>10330
>>10335
Added to OP.

☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10337

Fen!!Shining ArmorCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10339

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>>10336
In light of that i should probably say my own thoughts on the matter.
On the one hand, it's a good thing to have since it's another way for people to make small talk, something that's plagued the chan for years and since it's easier to talk quickly over discord than the site, it'll leech away most of that 'pointless' chatter that tended to derail threads.
Like mentioned, it's also a good method for handiling communitity events.
On the other hand, it should really stay as an extension of the site, rather than a replacement or quasi-competitor that it could develop into quite easily.
For one thing, i consider imageboards to simply be superior to a chat service, as the latter tends to be far too fast paced for my liking, but thats just a personal bias showing.
The main thing is really that it's currently fostering a completely different mindset / culture than the site, to the point that looking at it like a completely different entity probably isnt too far off the mark, which isnt a completely bad thing, but it's extremely odd that it doesnt seem to reflect the site it's supposedly a part of.
Personal gripe is that hardly anyone in the damn thing wants to watch MLP even though season 2 has been streaming all weekend.

Starshine!Laura/wmXMCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10340

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>>10339
>communitity
>communi-titty
Now this sounds like something I can get behind!

Mac !RevGiOKgRoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10342

My opinion is mostly par for the coarse.

/oat/ can be the family-friendly face of Ponychan
/chat/ can accommodate the politics and porn, and other mature\serious topics

That said, /chat/ shouldn't be the replacement /trash/ board where everything goes and anything can be dumped while 'absolving' the mods from intervention.

I don't think a /dis/ board is needed, and given the tiny userbase I imagine it would languish in inactivity once the novelty wore off.

Starshine!Laura/wmXMCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10343

>>10342
>I don't think a /dis/ board is needed, and given the tiny userbase I imagine it would languish in inactivity once the novelty wore off.
This happened even when we had a much larger userbase.

Mac !RevGiOKgRoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10344

>>10343
So then, we can see that /dis/ is not a good idea, both with simple reason and past evidence.

Crimson Risk !RISkQqf4EMCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10347

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>the Discord
...is nowhere near as active as the Skype group we used to have. It's typically the same few people shitposting nonsense/getting into arguments. It's undeniable that the site would have more activity without it, but it might not be "quality" activity.

The unhealthy downward trend of chatting offsite while Ponychan rots was set in motion years ago and there's nothing we can do to reverse it. Over time, people will always form friendships and cliques and take their conversations to more exclusive private places.

The best use for Discord is the voice chats, which we can't really do on the site in real time. But they are uncommon.

>>10344
yeah I don't think it was a serious suggestion and if it was, shame on whoever made it.

>>10339
>tfw everyone is bored of ponies now
maybe if the show had stayed good.... oh well.

PS bring back the faggot > pony wordfilter

Starshine!Laura/wmXMCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10349

>>10347
>PS bring back the faggot > pony wordfilter
This is important

Mac !RevGiOKgRoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10350

>>10347
I thought Shuckle brought it up?
In any realistic case, it shouldn't happen.

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10353

Delete /chat/

Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10356

Question, where would an obvious "lmao fuck liberals" thread half-disguised as a no-topic chitchat thread belong?

Sweetie ViaPonyCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10363

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>>10361
>The Ponychan i grew up with
>Was it because you wanted /anon/ to lure a bunch of people from /mlp/ or /b/ that pretty much did nothing but hurl abuse at the site in years past?
>Who actually came to the conclusion that allowing NSFW was a good idea for the site?

Perhaps I can help answer some of that, sir. Know that I don't necessarily disagree with your points though.

Unfortunately and perhaps confusingly, this is not Ponychan. Well, it is of course, but it's not the one you grew up with and remember. The site you're on now is the result of a merger between two sites, the original Ponychan and Anonthony's MLPchan. They just decided to use the name Ponychan for the merged site, as that was the better known name.

Now, to the point of if they wanted to lure a bunch of people from /mlp/ and /b/. That is exactly what happened. During a rush of poor moderation decisions on /mlp/, MLPchan created a new board for anonymous posting that allowed NSFW content in an effort to attract the mistreated users from 4chan, calling it /anon/.

When Ponychan and MLPchan merged, a new site and rule set needed to be created to accommodate both groups, which included having designated NSFW areas for the now members of /anon/. It's not as if MLPchan was simply shut down and we all came to Ponychan; the two sites became one.

So here we are, the best of both sites. All the internal politics of Ponychan, all the porn of MLPchan. Again, not disagreeing or agreeing with anything. Just laying out a reminder of how we came to be.

Fen!!Shining ArmorCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10367

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>>10356
/trash/ probably

>>10364

>>10361
Mlpchan had porn from the conception of their /anon/ board i believe, you just had to jump through a couple hoops to even know it was there and you likely only know it exists on here because a big fuss was / continues to be made about it, which is understandable given our status of being a 'clean' site prior to that.
Allowing nsfw on the board was a red line for the merger between pchan and mlpchan though, so it couldnt be helped.

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10369

>>10363
>this is not ponychan

stopped reading right there

Sweetie ViaPonyCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10370

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>>10369
Well you should continue, as I go on to explain that. Or, you could enjoy your ignorance and rush to judgement.

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10372

>>10370
ok I read it all. MLPchan was originally part of Ponychan, at least the userbase was for the most part. It split off but now it's back; we're still Ponychan and always have been.

Sweetie ViaPonyCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10373

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>>10372
I can see your point about MLPchan splintering off, then being reabsorbed, but my point stands. Ponychan never decided to allow NSFW, MLPchan did. Ponychan just picked it up as part of the merger. Do you like that better? How about, MLPchan had AIDS and we fucked and now everyone has AIDS?

The problem with continuing to use the Ponychan name for the merged site is now people might forget this represents both sites. So if people say "This isn't the Ponychan I grew up with" it implies we should go back (which again, I am not agreeing or disagreeing with) but that's not a fair shake for the MLPchan clopforce that didn't get to keep their name (they were always really anti-name anyways). And agreeing to a term for the merger, then just eliminating that term a year later, wouldn't be very cool, no matter how much good it might or might not do.
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AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10374

>>10373
The terms stopped mattering to ownership a long time ago. What was agreed to doesn't mean anything.

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10376

Yeah, Ponychan got royally screwed didn't it? "Ok, we'll accept the porn on one board. We just want a co-admin with equal authority to represent our side."

Sweetie ViaPonyCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10377

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>>10374
Well if ownership has any integrity, it should. I believe in keeping one's word.

But I guess we could always just ban NSFW and lewd and clean the site up. Anonthony could just recreate MLPchan for those who don't like it, and then everyone would have a nice little home again. It doesn't really split the userbase any more than the current "This is my board, I stay here, you go there. I don't want to see that stuff." Boards, sites, even threads, what's the difference really? They're all just another tab on my browser.

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10378

>>10377
apparently ownership does not have any integrity then...

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10379

>>10376
co-owner* but yes.
>>10377
It doesnt have any.

Mac !RevGiOKgRoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10380

>banning NSFW

Containment literally gets both sides what they want, and restricting things for all other people just reeks of control-freaking and mild idealism.
And hell, if the divisions between sections are equally arbitrary then why even make a fuss about changing it?

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10382

>>10380
I'm not suggesting to ban nsfw from the site, obviously that won't happen. But holy shit can you believe there are actually people trying to push for NSFW tagging on EVERY BOARD now??

Mac !RevGiOKgRoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10383

>>10382
Which is quite the opposite of containment, and a needless and partial disorganization of content on the site.

/chat/ should be fulfilling the role of being a controlled space for NSFW, and it seems to be doing so acceptably, yet I must still stress that leaving it an unmoderated dumping ground for everything just leaves it a toxic mess and not an enjoyable location for the adult shit.
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☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10387

>>10383
There's no question that NSFW needs to stay only on /chat/. That, and the allowance of political topics to an extent should be what separates /oat/ from /chat/.

Waifus are people too!YoRdlEjxQ6Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10388

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>>10350
I didn't mean literally bring back /dis/, rather repurpose /chat/ for being a more serious discussion board/subject general board while removing the garbage content/shitposts (aside from porn), as right now I feel like it's just a dumping ground for all the bad threads on ponychan.

Mac !RevGiOKgRoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10389

>>10387
So, the two of us agree then?

>>10388
Careful moderation would be needed lest the complaints about nazi mods came back, but yeah, there is no question that some threads and posts don't contribute anything good.

☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10390

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>>10389
Seems like it.

🍎 !AppLeJAcK.Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10392

So it's been over a year now and this is still an issue. Evidently staff and ownership are not up to the task so let's just do it ourselves.

So what to do:
As to /oat/; it should be for literally all content with the following exceptions: specifically pony content to /pony/, roleplaying to /rp/, and what /chat/ will be for..

Which will be the following: sexual content and themes, serials which wish to post such, and 'chan culture', topics and style more familiar at other imageboards (I think the board should be renamed /chan/ IMO so people don't think that's the place where all the 'chatting' happens.) I realize some people want to include 'serious discussion' into this board's purpose, but it's so at odds with the rest of the existing content that it doesn't jive very well.
With the next point, I think /oat/ is where serious and well-intentioned sociopolitical topics can go - and if people want a more knock-down-drag-out argument about such topics, they can take it to /chat-chan/ where there will be less staff oversight of conduct. However, this doesn't mean no oversight whatsoever, and the inflammatory racist hatespeech we've still occasionally seen should still be targeted for enforcement.

As to how stringent /oat/ should be: gimme a 6 out 10. Put some wordfilters back on it. It should be a place where no one gets pushed around. Except the staff when they aren't doing their jobs.

As to serials, non-cyclic serials should bumplock around 100 posts. Other thread suggestion: threads with no replies should fall of their boards after fewer pages, around 3-4. Threads with less than 5 around 5-6. Less pushing out of longer threads someone might want to bump or see again. Also means Kabel etc threads fall off faster.

Re-enable Vocaroo embeds like Skinny asked about a month ago. Not sure why they were disabled in the first place.

Cut the crap about how you don't need a modboard, given your anniversary mistake you clearly do and probably should have had all along, so get on it and use it for staying organized and planning things out over time;

As to the chat: it needs its scope curtailed. It should not be the place for pony content or roleplay or even NSFW. The former two should have everything possible done to encourage more on the site, not less. The latter isn't particularly appropriate in any event. It should exist for a specific reason, to benefit the site, and to that end should just be a chat and bot-post board, maybe an announcements one, for small-talk and basic serial chit-chat, then the bot functions, and announcements about the site. A voice room for streams and gaming and events, things which are of actual benefit to the site as a whole, as well. Rules should be the same as the site regardless, and the enforcement/bans proportional to one another. The chat mods: I may not be the only one wondering why Eris of all people was who you thought of when we said 'you should have server mods', but I'll just ask Shuckle not to make posts as if you're staff, ala >>10012, since Eris doesn't post. And I know that the server mods are in the mod-chat (which is also apparently where site discussions happen because there's no mod-board), but that shouldn't be the case anyways, makes no more sense than when we had a Minecraft server and a TF2 server etc if there were server mods they weren't, or it's another point in the 'use a modboard' since you have non-staff in the staff chat.

I'm torn about /site/ because it's clearly BS and doesn't accomplish much beyond that info sticky I'm proud of, but let's assume for now we keep using it. No thread with an actual issue should go unresponded to by some staff member for more than 12 hours. You have to at least have the decency to tell someone 'ok I let the person who can do something about this know.' Do your jobs, also try doing more actual shit in general instead of leaving Fen to do 90% of everything because you like to be 'behind the scenes.' Cut the crap, you don't do anything behind the scenes either. It's supposed to be work. Don't like it or aren't gonna do it or let the rest of them do it for you, then get out. Asap. We know we're in the final phase of the site, that maybe we'll get another 2 years or so of some enjoyment out of tops. That's not a reason to stop giving a shit, that's exactly why it needs people who are still passionate to some degree or at least have some measure of enthusiasm for it. Half-hearted, 'too cool to care' staffing shows what it's done to other smalltime places like ours. And if Macil sees this as a little more than a marginally interesting coding project and not a labor of love to actually put real time into the community and making decisions based on real engagement with it, and we already know things below that level are gonna get done with scrawling-out-Monday's-assignment-on-Sunday-night level care, then I guess delete /site/ and don't bother with any work at all and let set things adrift for however long it lasts. I realize neither admin posts on /oat/ (and hardly at all outside of that) but other people do, so get to work.

So there; if you care enough to try, you don't need to delete the chat, you don't need to cut off serious discussion from /oat/, you don't need the less-rules board to be totally lawless, you don't need to make all this things we have to rehash every few months, and you don't need to make it a full time job for yourselves if you actually share the load, try to plan, be organized, and make at least a three-quarter-ass attempt to give a shit about the state of things and be proactive instead of (months later)-reactive. Your positions are a privilege to take care of this place, not side with the people who sit back in the peanut gallery and scorn it and its value and mock the concept of caring about it. Start acting like you enjoy having the role for the right reasons and you like participating at some level and encouraging others to participate, or get the heck out. Maybe you'd have something to contribute to this thread in terms of direction and ideas if you were actually engaged with the boards in question, instead of, once again, Fen being the sole staff to make a single post in addition to being the one who had to start the conversation (again.) I know he probably feels the most responsibility since he's technically always supposed to have been co-owner and equal partner all this time but maybe other people do stuff too, alright. Try not making FGI's post be the most apt summation of everything;

>>9961
>If the Discord was deleted right now, Macil would still be a worthless bum, Astra would still half-follow through on ideas someone else came up with months ago, and the half dozen threads on /site/ with zero staff response would continue to be ignored. Like I said, you're allowed to care, but maybe its time to just accept that things are going to stay fucked for the foreseeable future and just try to make the best of it, despite what's out of your control?
>If you really care about Ponychan being run properly and efficiently and making sure that everything associated with Ponychan is held up to a higher standard than the Discord, then you're just going to drive yourself insane.

The original version of this was much harsher. Thank Crimson for getting me to cut some of you, specifically, more slack than I think you deserve.

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10395

While we're on the subject of /chat/, I'm sure most of you have noticed and are sick of that mouthy commie shitposting it up and generally bringing down all discussion quality. For the sake of those of us who want discussions that aren't bogged down by trolling, I think we need some clear guidelines on what is actual political discussion and that which only seeks to distort and provoke

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>>10395
that's gonna be a difficult thing to graft together, 'cause it's pretty easy for people to get angry and provocative about stuff that really isn't that incendiary

imo it's just not something you can discuss with people you don't know well and understand without opening the door to people getting real juiced

Mac !RevGiOKgRoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10399

>>10395
What about people who legitimately just have ridiculous opinions?

LisbonCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10400

Make me admin.

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10401

>>10400
Could not possibly be worse than the status quo.

Fen!!Shining ArmorCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10402

>>10392
>As to the chat: it needs its scope curtailed. It should not be the place for pony content or roleplay or even NSFW. The former two should have everything possible done to encourage more on the site, not less. The latter isn't particularly appropriate in any event. It should exist for a specific reason, to benefit the site, and to that end should just be a chat and bot-post board, maybe an announcements one, for small-talk and basic serial chit-chat, then the bot functions, and announcements about the site. A voice room for streams and gaming and events, things which are of actual benefit to the site as a whole, as well. Rules should be the same as the site regardless, and the enforcement/bans proportional to one another.
+1

>>10388
>>10389
>>10395
>>10397
>>10399
>I think we need some clear guidelines on what is actual political discussion and that which only seeks to distort and provoke
"Dont post bait, dont intentionally stir shit, feel free to be a nazi or communist but dont gas the jews or send people to the gulags."
Probably a much better way to word that but it's the first thing my brain came up with.

☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10403

>>10392
>As to the chat: it needs its scope curtailed. It should not be the place for pony content or roleplay or even NSFW. The former two should have everything possible done to encourage more on the site, not less. The latter isn't particularly appropriate in any event. It should exist for a specific reason, to benefit the site, and to that end should just be a chat and bot-post board, maybe an announcements one, for small-talk and basic serial chit-chat, then the bot functions, and announcements about the site. A voice room for streams and gaming and events, things which are of actual benefit to the site as a whole, as well. Rules should be the same as the site regardless, and the enforcement/bans proportional to one another.

+1

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10405

>>10403
>>10402
>there's an nsfw voice channel.

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I mean I could just put all of my retarded stream of consciousness fetish bait on the site instead of the Discord. Is the staff consensus that this would be preferred?

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10407

>>10406
You could also just do that literally anywhere else and yes, that would be greatly preferred, thanks.

Mac !RevGiOKgRoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10408

>>10402
>"Dont post bait, dont intentionally stir shit, feel free to be a nazi or communist but dont gas the jews or send people to the gulags."

So basically, just don't wish harm on people or degrade them?

Fen!!Shining ArmorCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10410

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>>10405
>We have that?
>We do.
>There's also two video game channels.
What.

>>10406
>He doesnt remember / know about the fetish threads we regularly had on /oat/ that just barely kept themselves from posting outright porn.
Feel free to post your stream of consciousness on /chat/ underneath a mature tag, preferably in an entertaining fashion.

>>10408
Pretty much, yeah.
My personal opinion is that you should be discussing ideas and not the people discussing said ideas(Play the ball, not the man etc.), unless demographics are a part of the discussion in the first place in which case you should refrain from insults.
No matter how retarded you think an idea is, somebody out there probably think's it's good and saying "You're brain damaged lmao" likely isnt going to convince the other person or the audience towards your point of view.

On the other hand, sometimes you simply cant discuss particular topics with particular people without it devolving into a shitfest.
Like playing chess with a pidgeon, no matter which move you make it'll just knock over the pieces and shit on the table, so your only winning move in that regard is simply not to play.

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10411

>>10410
You realize that you, being here, engaging this discusion, spending the time and effort to work this out with the community, is exactly why you were chosen, right? And that literally everyone else, not here or making any attempt, is why they weren't, right?
* some props to Mellow though. UK staff are only decent ones
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>>10414
Short version, that's what we agreed to and was necessary to make it happen at the time; in part because we all wanted to set aside the tensions people felt due to the initial split, in particular we felt that people like, say, Moony, wouldn't accept the merge if I was on staff (and then of course he left anyways, lol, and then what what we agreed to apparently never mattered anyways because Fen could be forced into resignation after never being the equal partner we agreed him to be [b]lol[/b/]), and because we also wanted a sort of fresh start with a combined staff of people without any history people might have a problem with. And at the time I felt confident that the agreed upon terms would work and the people I trusted to take care of my home and my friends would live up to them. As many people have told me lately, I couldn't have foreseen the results this far out. Let's leave it at that.
Aside, I'm glad you're back. I was pushing for it whenever I could. You're a part of the fabric. *edit, apparently you're not Pips. S-sorry. I don't know who's been using it lately so I don't know who you are.

The Person Who Posts As Fluttershy (Element of Self-descriptive Usernames)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10421

>>10392
>Cut the crap about how you don't need a modboard
We'd just fill it with porn again. >.>

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10422

>>10421
At least you'd be doing something I suppose.
Or maybe if there was even the smallest fraction of leadership here it would be used to keep you organized and on task. but lol.
And we both know that's never how it was before. Wonder what changed..
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>>10417
Damnit Mikie, the Admin took the time to make a tripless post from his phone in order to absolve himself from a promise made to discuss matters with Ember! He might have even glanced at some of these posts. Stop giving him a hard time. We can't expect the leader of this community to be able to have a moment for it once every 10 days or so.

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>>10425
I'm trying to earn my cutiemark in Satire.

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>>10405
Probably for Astra and Co. to initiate phone sex. <_<

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>>10429
Yeah, I just heard about that too.
... I guess that's an Admit taking action?

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>>10431
Okay. Now it's Ponychan.

☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10433

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That's a really petty move, Macil.

People have done worse to me and none of them got banned.

Hell, ONE of said threads that was a mockery of me was temporarily archived.

Blatant misuse of power, there.

Starshine!Laura/wmXMCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10434

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>permaban and D+
Not gonna lie, Anonthony's said and done plenty of things that I think deserved some level of moderator action. But this is ridiculous.

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And lifted.(sort of)

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>>10435
Sort of?

!!FluttershyCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10437

>>10436
Well he still broke the rules but not perma'd. If you want more details talk to him.

☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10439

>>10437
All right.

That was a pretty petty move on Macil's part.

Mewtini!LELnin/wowCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10440

Wait, wuh? Who broke what rules? What happn?

Sweetie ViaPonyCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10441

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>>10440
Anonthony replied to my satire of the admiration, found here >>10424 with an image stating "you can't just own Ponychan and do nothing to better the website", under which is a picture of a person I can only assume is Macil saying "that's where you're wrong kiddo." Macil saw it, permabanned Anonthony and deleted his contributions to the thread by IP (I am unsure how widespread the effect was regarding other threads). Anonthony informed some users and Mikie and I had a fun little exchange about it. Ember and Starshine expressed dissatisfaction. !!Fluttershy arrived and removed the perma from the ban, though Anonthony had already left for the evening.

☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10442

>>10441
It was a really dumb reason to perma someone.

Ban, yes. Perma, no. Stars, people have done that to me A LOT in the past - Mikie did it repeatedly for a while, and I'm pretty sure it took several repeated incidents for him to even get a warning.

Hell, MLPchna had a thread mocking me in archival for a few minutes.

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>>10300
>ban on racist/nazi material
>clear definition for what belongs in /chat/

The first ones going to happen, I think everyone's reasonably sick of it having it shouted at them with reckless abandon.

I had thought the definition fairly straight forward from my point of view, but that's apparently not the case.

>>10329
I've been giving a lot of thought to this recently, and I just woke up to get ready to go to work, so lets see if I can squeeze out a bunch of responses here before I have to go.

>>10356
/trash/

>>10380
Everyone already has everything they want with nsfw on the site, if you don't want to look at it you don't have to, and there's only one board that it's in.

>>10383
>yet I must still stress that leaving it an unmoderated dumping ground for everything just leaves it a toxic mess and not an enjoyable location for the adult shit.

/chat/ shouldn't be unmoderated. Moderation standards there are slightly different then the rest of the site but it still should be moderated to prevent things like harrasment or spam or excessive personal attacks.

Saying you can be more of a dick there doesn't mean you can be an outright cunt all the time, if that makes sense.


Now for posts with suggestions about the dynamic between /oat/ and /chat/


>>10290
This isn't going to happen for a lot of reasons, the big one being that shoving all these topics into one board makes it a shitfest of nonsense that nobody wants to participate in.

>>10298
Creating a /dis/ board won't work either, that would just kill the topic in a few weeks once everyone got bored of using it.



>>10335
>>10329
>>10342
>>10392
These all seem to be going along the same lines, so I'll use them all along with someone me and Fen talked about earlier.

/pony/ - For all content related to the show.

I know that'll be a slight change since /pony/ used to just be show discussion, but honestly the topic has so little hard followers now that putting the entire topic in the one board is probably a good thing for it at this point.

/oat/ - All content that's not covered by /pony/ /chat/ and /rp/

Pretty self explanatory, more strictly moderated then the other boards in general. Mods stepping in to prevent personal attacks and shit flinging.

That'll need more input from the community on how they'd like to see that, since I'm not sure everyones idea of moderation on those subjects is the same? There's a pretty big difference between stepping in before there's an issues, only once there's an issue etc etc.

/chat/ - Sexual content and themes and seriels that want to post it. More chan culture with less moderation in general, but still moderated.

And I have to get back to work stuff, I'll check on this in 4 or 5 hours but I probably won't be able to respond for 12 or so.

☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10444

>>10443
/pony/ won't approve of "all content related to the show"

Perhaps "All SERIOUS content related to the show"

Making it the former pushes a lot of /oat/ threads into /pony/, and by then, you may as well remove /oat/ and divide the threads therein into /pony/ and /chat/ threads, which is probably not ideal.

Also, nothing on the Discord? Disappointing.
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>>10444
Unlike the /chat/ and /oat/ stuff thats gonna take longer to respond too since there's a bigger divide on opinions.

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>>10442
>>10440
Anonthony has been repeatedly harassing macil basically everywhere the guy posts, and has recieved warnings and bans for it in the past.

Throwing around someones real name and picture like that is harassment, not allowed on the site.

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>>10445
I dunno. Most people are agreeing that it needs to have a specific function that doesn't take away from the boards on the site.

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>>10446
Yeah, Mikie did that to me quite a bit several months ago and I'm not entirely sure he received an actual ban, but whatever.

I mean he stopped. No hard feelings or whatever.
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Macil how about this? I’ll kill your whole family. When I get in this trial, I will murder your whole family. I’ll cut your children up into pieces. I’ll knock their brains out with a fucking hammer and feed them to you.

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>>10443
Thank you for your attention, sir. I hope my tomfoolery was taken as light heartedly as I intended. Your public has been calling for you though.

>>10444
No, no, please. As a resident of /pony/, please do send us all pony content. It gets so boring over there. This thread is to talk about this episode, that one for that episode... Those are fine, but I could do with a peppering of shipping pair and favorite pony threads. We'll take more than just the show, too. Give us the toy and comic rights too. I want all things pony on my homeboard. Drown me in them.

>>10447
I disagree with that. >>10331 I like it there. It reminds me of my old /b/ threads, where everyone just chills together and chats about whatever. You Ponychanners are too regimented in your thread structure. I'll back you up that people shouldn't be cybering, or whatever I heard about. I haven't seen that myself though.

>>10449
Oh Ponychan. You never fail me...

☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10451

>>10450
>As a resident of /pony/, please do send us all pony content.
From what I know of /pony/, it tends to be... a little critical of things that aren't either lambasting the show as "not good anymore" or super-specific discussion. From my experiences (mind you, this wasn't recent at all), a lot of /pony/ posters tend to prefer less tomfoolery on /pony/ itself.

/oat/ has always been the board for silly pony. /pony/ has been the srs pony board since /oat/'s inception.

>>10450
Most people still agree that there's an issue with Discord overlapping with boards here on the chan. If you're wanting a chill and chat thread, nothing's stopping you from making one.

Crimson Risk !RISkQqf4EMCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10452

yeah fuck it, give /pony/ all of the pony. it's not like /oat/ wants to talk about it anymore. maybe a thread about the merch or whatever would do better in /pony/.

>>10449
holy shit my sides

Starshine!Laura/wmXMCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10458

>give /pony/ all the pony
pls no

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>>10441

So, wait.

Does this mean Macil does pay attention to the threads, but basically ignores everything that people complain about?

Stellar job as admin there.

Starshine!Laura/wmXMCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10462

>>10449
I instantly recognized this btw, and read it in Rick's voice

Mac !RevGiOKgRoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10463

>>10458
This.
/pony/ needs content, but hopefully not at the expense of other boards, lest /oat/ just decompose into a light-weight /chat/, and making /fan/ go to the guillotine.

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>>10446
>Not telling people to make a seperate thread for that so it doesnt fill this one up with an unrelated topic.
You goofed.

>>10450
>>10451
>>10452
>>10458
>>10460
>>10463
/oat/ pretty much already is the light-weight /chat/, it's been like that since we allowed non-mlp threads to be posted on it and it got so bad that we had to delete the original chat because nobody was actually using it, i think you can classify a general-talk board as 'dead' when it doesnt get a post for an entire week.

Thats not to say we should remove pony from /oat/, only that we should probably continue to treat /oat/ and /chat/ as our 'anything goes' boards and perhaps let /pony/ have (or just plain encourage) threads that arent just episode discussion like image dumps / screencap threads for the new episodes, etc.

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>>10464
This would be hot if Cadence didn't have a liquor store mustache

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>>10450
>I could do with a peppering of shipping pair and favorite pony threads.
I've never been under the impression that that was not show related.

Though I only ever used /pony/ on oldchan and mlpchan and on old chan we basically ignored the topic rules whenever we thought we could get away with it.

My standard has always been that if it references the show, hasbro's other canon stuff(like comics) or the creative process behind it then it can go in /pony/. If it's about the fandom, topicless bantering or entirely unrelated to the show it goes somewhere else.

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10468

Graham is still shitposting it up as "Libertarian Socialist Roadhog" and considering there still hasn't been moderator action, he shows no signs of stopping. It would be real nice if someone could reprimand him for utterly shitting up the place with propaganda and straight up lies.

☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10469

>>10464
>we should probably continue to treat /oat/ and /chat/ as our 'anything goes' boards and perhaps let /pony/ have (or just plain encourage) threads that arent just episode discussion like image dumps / screencap threads for the new episodes, etc.

So long as we don't bar that content from /oat/ or //chat/. In this situation, it's less of a redundancy and more of A) spontaneous development on those two boards and B) lacking the general culture of /pony/ which puts some people off of the board. I know it puts me off posting there.

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>>10468
You can hide names/trips, you know. Maybe do that because he's not really harming anyone directly and he's limiting it to /chat/.

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10471

>>10470
Idk, Communism killed over 100 million in the past century, so I'd say it very well is directly harmful. I'd rather not have people on my site that want me dead for being white, thanks. Especially not someone with such a clear lack of any mental faculties. It just makes everything worse, because instead of having good discussions, everyone else surrounds the idiot in order to get him to shut up (or worse, like minded brats think that they're in good company and chime in). It's undesirable on all fronts.

☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10473

>>10471
> I'd rather not have people on my site that want me dead for being white, thanks.
What?

>>10472
There is a limit to the number of threads one person can make in a day, tbh.

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10475

>>10473
Preferably, his number should be limited to zero.

And yes, if you'd actually studied history, you'd realize what I'm saying is entirely correct

☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10476

>>10475
It's less that I've not studied history and more that I literally gloss over his textwalls without so much as reading a word, because I don't care for what he has to say, whether it's factual or reasonable or otherwise.

>>10474
I just looked. Holy crap, there's four fucking textwall OPs on /chat/ from him what the shit. It'd be fine if the textwalls weren't the size of a small city but wow.

Fenphone!GUARD5kv/UCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10479

>>10477
>>10476
Handiling it, asked macil to lower the visible characters in an OP on the front page, i'll edit the existing threads into hide tags when i get the chance.

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>>10479
Thanks.

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So is anything actually going to come out of this because all I've received is basically "/chat/ and /oat/ are easy but Discord is hard," and then nothing. Not even any clarification on /chat/ and /oat/ and their roles, let alone any discussion about the Discord and what its role(s) should be without rendering the site proper completely redundant. It seems that our unqualified admin can't follow up on anything. There isn't even a confirmation that something is being discussed amongst the staff.

And by staff I don't include Shuckle and Eris. They're not staff.

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>>10488
>So is anything actually going to come out of this

Mac !RevGiOKgRoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10493

>>10488
>So is anything actually going to come out of this

Come back in a week.

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>>10493
This is actually already him coming back a week later.

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>>10488
Yes, and I did have an idea for the discord that would do some more to encourage cross traffic between it and the site.

I was thinking of having channels that are locked with just board links corresponding directly to the boards.

There was also an idea that Macil brought up about designing a bot to automatically drop thread links when new threads are made into the chat.

There's some other issues being discussed among the staff right now, namely some site features like never ending scroll, so you can keep scrolling and the board will automatically load threads from new pages, the vacoroo embed.

There was also a discussion about being able to mark individual posts as mature, but that was solved by just deciding that spoilering images in mature threads was the way to go. Since anything else would interrupt the flow of other threads.
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>>10502
Fens idea was the bot, not Macils, my bad.

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>>10502
Mature posts on the site should only occur on /chat/, anyways.

As for the Discord, nothing regarding the use of it to contact site staff with questions and concerns that are more urgent than /site/ can handle? Nothing about scheduling community games and using it for voice chat? (Speaking of voice chat, there's no need for an NSFW voice chat.) Remember that you should not be ignoring the site because of the Discord and that the Discord should not render the site redundant.

>locked channels

I don't disapprove of the idea. Will you be doing one channel for the lot, with descriptions of the boards or will you do one channel for each board?

>Fenbot

That would serve an interesting secondary function if it posts the trip of the person who made the new thread as well as a bit from the actual post... You would instantly be able to see if there is spam going on.

Motion to call the bot Fenbot.

>never ending scroll

Seen the discussions. I like it.

>vocaroo

I remember when we had it.

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>>10509
>As for the Discord, nothing regarding the use of it to contact site staff with questions and concerns that are more urgent than /site/ can handle?

Honestly this should be a thing without needing to be explicitly stated, I suppose a channel could be made for it though.

> Nothing about scheduling community games and using it for voice chat?


Literally anyone can feel free to do this and have the staff members support them, I personally don't have the time right now myself to make any commitments for it.

>Will you be doing one channel for the lot, with descriptions of the boards or will you do one channel for each board?


I'm not actually sure which one would be better.

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>>10538
Either one. Just make sure you stick to the same style.

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>>10538
>>10539
I did end up doing channels for both RP and /pony/

Although since RP has it's own Discord for out of character stuff that channel links to the discord.

I told myself I'd come back to this discussion sooner but I really don't have the time right now, sorry everyone

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>>10625
Well, do more of the board links as separate channels then.

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One week after the previous response and absolutely nothing. Zero. Zip.

Our admins sure are on top of the game, guys. Makes you wonder why we even need /site/, doesn't it?

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>>10669
I'd post a meme, but that might end badly.

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>>10670
The administration doesn't understand memes.

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>>10669
Where would Ponychan complain if not for /site/?

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>>10672
I dunno. Probably /oat/ or /chat/ or somewhere else the administration ignores.

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>>10673
It will have to be the /b/read! I hear that's where Macil lives.

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>>10674
Yeah but we all know how well Macil responds to criticism.

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>>10674
Nah, can barely find him even there. Meanwhile Astra hasn't posted on the site or even his chat in a week. This is what happens when places are in hands of people who aren't regulars and dedicated.

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>>10670
>>10669
Got you covered fam.

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>>10682
>in b4 ban

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>>10692
No, there is no backup plan and no one else has the needed access, solely Macil, never even Fen when he was allegedly full partner and half owner - which is why we ended up in this situation at all, something that's been noted for over a year and a half now. If Macil dies or just stops giving a fuck (mostly has the latter) we're (more) fucked. Already in the hands of 2 largely absent people, one of which was never and has never even been a part of Ponychan or its community. Instead of the site's community being represented and managed and owned by long-term, dedicated members who have and continue to care a lot about it.
It just isn't an acceptable outcome in any context and the effects are seen. Doesn't matter what the excuses are. If the site and community can't be handed to a group of its long suffering, hardworking leaders like Fen, Flutters, Crimson et al, then there's no point, this terminal phase will sputter out quicker than expected. But for some insane reason he doesn't see that and insists on this status quo.
Macil talks about how he don't 'owe' people (Flutters) something. He owns a domain. Nothing else. He has no idea how people have held this community together does he? He doesn't even know the people involved. This existed before him and it will exist after he leaves. He was a total outsider before and after mlpchan; they aren't here because of him. They didn't go to mlpchan because of him. They didn't come back because of him. He has this 'nice place to relax sometimes' because of them. Yes. He does owe them. They don't owe him. I don't care what he thinks he's paid. He 'did them dirty' as they say. Just like did to Flutters. These people decide what they want and need and who's got their back, and that list is short and Flutters is prominently on it. And Fen. And Mellow, Crimson etc. Can't say many more past that.
Tom would've slapped his shit for it all honestly. But he sits there in his circlejerk for his 5 posts a week (tops) and disrespects people like Crimson who was working for this community before he was even ban evading on /b/. "You know what you did", and his response is basically "yeah lol I was awesome, guess if you don't like it you're a piece of shit and a pawn." Who the fuck is he? He's nobody to this place. He's the outsider, the one who doesnt belong, the one who should have stepped aside when he and the actual community workers couldn't come to terms on things. *He* should get out. Who was he to ever be the one making their decisions for them? Half of it was and still is rightfully Fen's. It's time he moved on and left it in the hands of the people who have always been a part of it and who still care to be in it. Whatever, if people don't feel as strongly as I and others do, but people have said this was gonna be the outcome for a long time now, and obviously it's kept coming true. Autistic carelord shit, sure, but it's true. The small collective left, its insanely bullshit that he's the one it has to depend on and that he seems to think he's necessary, and that astra "im literally always here" bolt isnt even around enough in his own pet chat for however long at a time; Fen may be burned the hell out at the thought of being partnered with mac again, but that problem doesnt exist if mac finally accepts that he has no business owning or controlling this small remaining community he has never been a part of. Turn this shit over to the people who still give a damn and are ever here; fen, fluts, et al. Know its implausible he'd wake up to how much the (ever active) staff wish he'd do exactly that and move on but w/e, might as well say what most of the team and the remaining active users think.

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(meme)

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>>10693
this
if you dont give a fuck. give someone else the site
what are you waiting for? money? or do you just enjoy having internet power? you have no reason to do what you're doing.

this whole display has been and continues to be fucking pathetic. nobody cares if you want to become inactive and do whatever, that's fine. you can do whatever you want with YOUR shit. but give up control of the site so that you don't fuck with OTHER peoples' shit when you do so. this should be absolute common sense.

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Make me the site owner.

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>>10698
The funniest/saddest part is that fen already still has to do all the admin work anyways

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>>10700
wait wasn't that already attempted via mlpchan?

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>>10702
oh

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>>10693
>>10696
>>10698
over/under on never hearing from them again? taking bets

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>>10706
Well, I just saw a recent post from Macil in /b/

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>>10708
Oh, I mean you're still gonna see the 5 or so posts a week in the serial to the same 2-3 people, same it's ever been.
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>>10719
This shouldn't belong to him, please go away.

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>>10726
>i agree with them
>i just don't care as much as they do, so they shouldn't either
please go.

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>>10729
I literally asked you nicely to please stop.

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>>10732
Your argument's validity is "this isn't that important so stop caring about it more than I do."
Please, go.

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>>10713
>>10719
>>10726
>>10729
>>10734
I realise only about half of this is funposting, so i'll just ask you to stop doing that on /site/ and address the other half that's legitimate.

"Make your own ponychan and run it if the admins dont listen" isnt really that simple.
Like you said, there's nothing technically wrong happening right now but there's really nothing happening, it's just been status quo for the past year and a half until i stepped down as admin and triggered a brief spurt of activity for what i can only surmise is either macil being too damn stubborn to admit he was wrong and finally getting an out or astra somehow convinced him into agreeing with things i was literally suggesting several months ago.
Making yet another imageboard from scratch when we've got a perfectly good one right here is essentially throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
I mean, it's certainly an option but it's on the same level as "Burn it all and salt the earth" in terms of problem solving and not exactly something that people want to do despite the greviances.

Again, please stop making light of how much people care about the status of the site, we realise it objectively doesnt mean much but it's important to quite a few of us.

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>>10735
*meant to say that another chan will simply splinter what little population remains when we should be working on consolidating so that people dont just drift away.
Together we're a mighty faggot and all that.

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>>10737
No i get what you're saying, but people have greviances and /site/ is really the only way to air them.
The threads are constant because the responses are sparse or simply nonexistant, they'd be less frequent / hostile if either of the admins actually gave a timely response that was considered satisfactory.
We can certainly ban from specific boards, let me know if you want to contribute to the discussions again.

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>>10693
>macil thinks he and fen (co owner and "equal" partner) were "cordial" but just "couldnt get things done"
>the way macil destroyed fen's will with utter and absolute disrespect, insult through inattention and abusive levels of disregard for what he cared about
>i love fen and if someone did that to him in person id beat the living piss out of them
Macil needs to fucking go. Period. Get the fuck out of the Ponychan community he's never been a part of. Hand this shit, keys and all, to Fen and TPWPF. They can sort out how it'll be managed later.

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>>10735
>>10738

I think the problems are a bit deeper than just the admins not responding in a timely fashion right now. It's more to do with the fact that a lot of people know the admins are around, but just seem to be ignoring all the ire and distaste that's been brewing for a while now.

We know Macil's still hanging around the /b/ and friends thread, and I'm willing to bet Astra's still in the Discord chat, so why aren't they saying anything? They're clearly looking at the site, or at the very least are still connected to it, so they should be paying attention to what's going on. If they are, why aren't they saying anything? And if they're not, then that's negligence and that's not what people in their position should be doing.

Which is the real issue here: the people in charge aren't giving the users enough faith that they're doing their jobs properly. And the worst part about it is that we can't actually do anything about that.

>>10739

Outcries like this have been all over the place lately, but it's clear that even with that nothing's actually going to change. Someone else pointed out in another thread that if Macil just disappeared one day, the site would be fucked, because no one else has the keys to the actual coding for the site because he apparently just won't give it to anyone. Both Macil and Astra have unopposed power and nothing we say or do is going to make them suddenly give that up. Especially not Macil, who seems to do everything to come off as a brick wall to any criticism thrown at him, so the odds of him deciding to just step down seem to be nil.

All of this contributes to the desire for someone to just make a new site and have people in charge that the users know they can trust. If Anonthony or TPWPF or you, Fen, were in charge these issues wouldn't come up, and since Macil isn't gonna hand the keys over to anyone else any time soon, and working with him seems to be enough to knock twenty years off of one's life, then this is the only recourse left.

I get not wanting to salt the earth or whatever, I get not wanting to resort to extreme solutions, but when it feels like it's the only thing left, people are going to want it.

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>>10740
Your post is 100% correct. But there just isnt enough left to try it. The only hope is the slim thread that he just fucking accepts that he's not acceptable to own and manage this and gives it back. Otherwise we just ride out the lifecycle while fen still does whatever work can be done

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>>10741

Isn't enough of what? Users?

I'll admit, I don't really pay attention to what the actual numbers are, but has the userbase shrunk so much that splitting it would really be that detrimental?

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>>10742
Yes. The sole hope was a fresh start right here, but all we'll get is the status quo for the remainder of its life cycle. Fen's *so* burned about it, that he declines any option where he'd be solely in charge. Someone who cared so much about this that Macil's intransigence had him literally pulling out his hair, isn't the person we'll get caretaking for it. There are no other options that accomplish anything, and the situation is pointlessly hopeless and it's too late tbh. Terminal entropy death spiral and the only options to pull it out are active, engaged caretakers with managerial ability, and none of those options are either willing or are people they'd hand it to. Fuck.

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>>10742
You have discord or steam?

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>>10743

I dunno, I still say there's at least one option to make it work. Though it'd require the new site to basically not be pony-related.

I mean, if it's about just having a strong enough userbase to justify having a new site, then that seems like the way to go. Make an imageboard for something else, but encourage the users here who are sick of Ponychan moderation to head over anyway.

It's kind of a flimsy idea but still at least viable, if you ask me.

>>10744

I got a Discord, yeah.

Crona Makenshi#8459

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>>10740
Astra has been oddly missing from everything for the last little bit. I heard he ran into lots of IRL troubles.

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>>10742
>>10743
Also I don't really understand the claim that the userbase is dying. Yesterday alone I counted 12 threads being made in /oat/, all by different people, and that was just on the front page.

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>>10745
Give up on ponies? Why even make a new site then? I'm sure there are plenty of non-pony sites you could all migrate too. Heck, there are a few pony sites you could migrate too as well.

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>>10746
>be astra
>be barely around, only really post in Story, flat out say 6 months ago there isn't even anything for you to do in your job as */rp/ mod*
>get admin'd, immediately start passing off all the work to Fen, disappear for the site anniversary, come back in time to repeatedly lie for macil to back him up in an incident, then suspend the best mod on the staff, then disappear again for almost 2 weeks so you don't have to deal with the fallout
4 stars

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>>10747
One of the current ones is making this thread for the purpose of bumping other threads down

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>>10749
There isn't anything to do as a /rp/ mod because /rp/ never causes problems.

Pretty sure the only worked passed to Fen was the making of this thread.

I have no info on the validity of what Macil did, but uh.

>Busy with IRL troubles


Not sure if you read that part. I guess I'll just assume you didn't.

Heard a family member/close friend has been going through super tough times so he's helping them out.

But feel free to believe what you wish I suppose

>>10750
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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>>10752
What you're "pretty sure of" is wrong; but feel free to believe what you wish I suppose!

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>>10753
>have direct confirmation that this is the only work passed off
>is wrong tho

ok

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>>10754
>source for this claim?

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>>10746
>>10747

It might be more that there just isn't enough to justify making a new site anymore.

A few years back when MLP was still popular, and there was a chance of attracting new users (which is arguably more important), then yeah, sure. Nowadays, maybe not so much.

>>10748

See above for why.

MLP isn't as popular as it once was, so the potential for growth and bringing in new blood is lower than it has been. Which is what one would need to keep the site going, hence why we're running into this current problem.

Plus there's the community to consider. Some people only stick to this site because of the other users already here that they want to communicate with. For them, it probably wouldn't matter what the site is actually about, so long as they can still shitpost with the same people.

>>10752

Speaking as a frequent /rp/ user I can say this is basically true.

Aside from the occasional shitpost and spam stuff, but those are usually sitewide anyway, and rarely ever come near us.

But as for Astra, if there really is some kind of issue in his real life that's preventing him from doing his job, why doesn't he just say so? Just take like five minutes to pop in, say "hey I'm kinda busy with something serious right now so I can't be around as much", and that'd be that.

Passing it off to someone else and then expecting everyone else to rely on hearsay only contributes to all the mistrust and disbelief.

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>>10755
A PM with Fen. I won't share screenshots to protect both my, and his privacy.

>>10756
To be fair, he did say he was too busy to put time to this at the moment. And he apologized for that.

Now I also think that giving another update would be a good idea, I just disagree with everyone's claims that he's simply choosing not to put time here.

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>has posted in the rp server
>flirted at toybox in chan server
>m-muh real life problems 2much to do muh job
>>10757
Weird, I have many PMs with fen implying much the opposite, to the point he's actually let astra have it about how he's had to do all the admin work even after being forced into resignation while still being co-owner.
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>>10758
>>10757
Excuse me, but 'i let astra have it' by pointing out the fact people are directly asking me why i even quit and that he should post _something_ because otherwise the majority of modposts on the site are just me doing / saying things that i think need doing while he and macil are seen doing other shit.

I'm salty about the fact history seems to be repeating itself.
He's only directly asked me to make this thread.
Stop using me to score points in this drama.

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>>10760
Point of fact, you've been left to do the work, as usual. You don't want the role, so you don't decide how it's used in conjunction with this conflict.

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>>10757

OK, but busy with what?

I don't expect to get explicit details about what exactly he's doing, but just saying he's "busy" doesn't help much. That could mean basically anything and further contributes to the feeling that something isn't on the level.

Just saying that he's working or has some issue at home to deal with would be enough. It'd convey just how serious the matter is and give legitimacy to the idea that he really does care, as opposed to legitimizing the opposite that he doesn't.

>>10760
>>10761

Basically, Astra should stop expecting that other people acting as his mouthpiece is enough to satisfy those who want answers from him directly.

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>>10762
I mean, absence isn't even the only issue, but still. Not like the brief time he's done anything since getting the role has been any good anyways.

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Hey guys.

For those wondering at the lack of update, I haven't actually been able to get online for a week or so due to stuff going on at home. I probably could have posted that from my phone. That's my bad for not doing so.

As to why nothing is currently being done, I'm waiting on Macil to read through threads and get back to me on issues.

Specifically /pony/ /oat/ /chat/ stuff I outlined a week or so ago up top when that was going down, and I'm hoping that'll happen sometime today or tomorrow.

Along with that we'll be updating our appeals process, I won't get to into it right now since I haven't had a chance to talk to him, but it's something the majority of the staff feels is a good idea.

I'm out of the house for the weekend, so my posting is still gonna be rather sporadic until I'm back home.

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>>10775
Macil outright refused to leave /b/ and friends because the complaints here are "not important". So it's gonna have to be your job to do stuff given that Macil isn't going to provide oversight

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>>10776
If that was going to work Fen would have done it.
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>>10775
>I'm waiting on Macil to read through threads and get back to me on issues.
>>10777
>If that was going to work Fen would have done it.

Sooo... You're waiting on something everyone, including you, knows isn't going to happen? You've been claiming to be too busy with your life for a month now, at least. >>10208 there it is. And that's only the time I've been watching for. Who knows when those claims actually started.

Dude, if you need a leave of absence, or don't have the time to be an admin for a site, that's perfectly understandable. But I think you owe it to the community to step down or put someone else in temporary charge of things so the site has an admin while you're super busy. You're leaving a void that is having a real detriment to your community here.

What do I know though? Carry on. This is all very exciting.

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>>10779
I'm busy, yes. but if an issue comes up that needs me here to solve then I'm available to the site staff or even the users.

Either through email or discord. Anyone can get in touch with me at any point in time.

Yes I'm busy, and I've been busy. I doubt I'll stop being busy.

However, the moment issues become solvable I'll put aside my personal life and make the time to get things done, which is exactly what I'm doing right now.

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>>10777
>>10776
Mewtini the difference was then Macil was actively hindering progress by simultaneously demanding to have final word on every issue for a community he was never a part of and also ignoring those issues. Now he's just passively hindering anything by either not being around or refusing to acknolwedge any issues exist, which due to Astra's absences has exacerbated everything. Even if Astra becomes present and Macil starts letting him or whoever do anything, the majority of the staff still resent the hell out of him, are either on the verge of quitting or just leaving, or were already barely doing anything in the first place; meanwhile, the *still* unaddressed BS in regard to Flutters aborted suspension and Macil *and* Astra's bs and lying about that entire incident has more than a few people with "lowest trust in the administration here ever" (as quoted from multiple staff), which is an incredible feat given what "ever" encompasses in our history. Meanwhile more users feel the bs and tension and stagnation and fade off from the site, or just outright decide to leave it for good as Lis did today, and all the small piecemeal changes in the world aren't going to stem that tide. Neither of these two are "going anywhere" which means neither is this last (very sad) era in the community's history; the 6 years of Ponychan's history and legacy and community left in the hands of some serialfag btard who disrespects the people who were working for this place before he was even ban evading on /b/, and an /rp/ mod who similarly barely ever left a serial as of late; the unfortunate and unforeseen outcome we didn't expect 2 years ago when everything seemed optimistic and we expected a small team of active, engaged long term members to caretake for it. In the end it's not discord or a specific rule or a board problem, it's the fish stinking from the head down, and even if Astra were me, the situation is relatively set in stone. It'd be easier to accept and just leave as well and hang out offsite with people like you that I like, but it's still pretty fuckin' maddening how much the whole deal has hurt people I care about like Fen, Flutters, Crimson et al. But "it is what it is", and the sunk cost just can't be made worth it.

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10782

>or even the users
>even the users

Lmao jesus christ
And I thought macil was oblivious to how he sounds

It's alright though, at least you had time to +coins add and thirst at Toy and Seras in chats.
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>>10775
>>10780
>im not active and i never will be active but it's ok because you can email me and i might get back to you in a week or two
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☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10786

>>10780
No no no. That's not at all how this works, lad. You are the admin of this site, so you need to MAKE TIME to come here to hear complaints. I'm not going to waste time emailing you and I'm certainly not adding you on Discord because /site/ is the proper place to voice complaints and discuss the future of the site.

You can't just fuck off and tell people to email you. The site is your responsibility, so you need to come here and be responsible.

Or you and Macil can step down, find actually GOOD replacements, and go on e-fucking in your Discord.
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>>10786
/meta/
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>>10787
You must be misreading things.

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>>10780
Dude if you don't have time just give it up. There are people who would do better. When you took over as admin did you think you'd end up being like Orange, but without the massive userbase to carry things?

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>>10792
>we have two orange's now instead of just one

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>>10793
>tfw the leadership is so bad that you miss the actual Orange

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>>10780

If you seriously think that telling people to send you an email equates to you "always being here" then you really don't understand what people expect of you.

"Always being here" means you actually being here. Checking the site, checking the complaints on this board, even if they aren't really important you should still be looking at them.

As basically everyone else has already said, if you just can't devote that kind of time to the job, then give the job to someone who can. It only makes sense.

But you probably won't and will just keep things as they are because as far as you're concerned, everything is fine and we're just making a big deal out of nothing. So people getting more pissed off at you by your lack of attendance will just be brushed off as a vocal minority and nothing will change.

Fuck, no wonder Thony is so bitter.

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>>10817
>>10815

Hey Astra, look at this. Just saying, Pezz here. I'm embarrassed that I used to interact with you. If there was ever a time to start another chan to put people who care in charge, it was after you and Macil started running things. Worst administration this site has ever had. It's time for both of you to go, this place is crap but it still deserves better. No one cares if things are hard for you, you're not a martyr for "trying" even while you have stuff going on, you're just in a position that someone more fitting should be in. Please go, you don't belong here anymore.

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I remember a few months ago we were supposed to get some new mods and make sure the ones left are actually doing their jobs. We eventually got like 2 janitors and that was the end of that.

Where are the new mods?

A lot of people are just going to assume you did what you always did and circlejerked about how nobody on this site is fit to perform mod duties while failing at your own duties. Doesn't look good.

Fenphone!GUARD5kv/UCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10831

>>10829
That was actually because more mods were deemed 'not needed' at the time after we talked about it.
We added janitors to handle an unsual amount of spam that eventually died off and made said janitors redundant.

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>>10831
You could use some more mods desu

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>>10831
Speaking of which, does my janitor account still exist?

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>>10866
No, I removed both of them awhile ago

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>>10869
Coolio, makes sense.

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These issues don't feel totally resolved, to say the least.
/oat/ is mostly clean now, yet /chat/ still sometimes feels like it's just the dump for the couple threads that still happen.
Suggestions have been made, yet little has happened outside of Mikie's decisions.

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