So it's been over a year now and this is still an issue. Evidently staff and ownership are not up to the task so let's just do it ourselves.
So what to do:
As to /oat/; it should be for literally all content
with the following exceptions
: specifically pony content to /pony/, roleplaying to /rp/, and what /chat/ will be for..
Which will be the following: sexual content and themes, serials which wish to post such, and 'chan culture', topics and style more familiar at other imageboards (I think the board should be renamed /chan/ IMO so people don't think that's the place where all the 'chatting' happens.) I realize some people want to include 'serious discussion' into this board's purpose, but it's so at odds with the rest of the existing content that it doesn't jive very well.
With the next point, I think /oat/ is where serious
and well-intentioned sociopolitical topics can go - and if people want a more knock-down-drag-out argument about such topics, they can take it to /chat-chan/ where there will be less staff oversight of conduct. However, this doesn't mean no oversight whatsoever, and the inflammatory racist hatespeech we've still occasionally seen should still be targeted for enforcement.
As to how stringent /oat/ should be: gimme a 6 out 10. Put some wordfilters back on it. It should be a place where no one gets pushed around. Except the staff when they aren't doing their jobs.
As to serials, non-cyclic serials should bumplock around 100 posts. Other thread suggestion: threads with no replies should fall of their boards after fewer pages, around 3-4. Threads with less than 5 around 5-6. Less pushing out of longer threads someone might want to bump or see again. Also means Kabel etc threads fall off faster.
Re-enable Vocaroo embeds like Skinny asked about a month ago. Not sure why they were disabled in the first place.
Cut the crap about how you don't need a modboard, given your anniversary mistake you clearly do and probably should have had all along, so get on it and use
it for staying organized and planning things out over time;
As to the chat: it needs its scope curtailed. It should not be the place for pony content or roleplay or even NSFW. The former two should have everything possible done to encourage more on the site, not less. The latter isn't particularly appropriate in any event. It should exist for a specific reason, to benefit the site, and to that end should just be a chat and bot-post board, maybe an announcements one, for small-talk and basic serial chit-chat, then the bot functions, and announcements about the site. A voice room for streams and gaming and events, things which are of actual benefit to the site as a whole, as well. Rules should be the same as the site regardless, and the enforcement/bans proportional to one another. The chat mods: I may not be the only one wondering why Eris of all people was who you thought of when we said 'you should have server mods', but I'll just ask Shuckle not to make posts as if you're staff, ala >>10012
, since Eris doesn't post. And I know that the server mods are in the mod-chat (which is also apparently where site discussions happen because there's no mod-board), but that shouldn't be the case anyways, makes no more sense than when we had a Minecraft server and a TF2 server etc if there were server mods they weren't, or it's another point in the 'use a modboard' since you have non-staff in the staff chat.
I'm torn about /site/ because it's clearly BS and doesn't accomplish much beyond that info sticky I'm proud of, but let's assume for now we keep using it. No thread with an actual issue should go unresponded to by some staff member for more than 12 hours. You have to at least have the decency to tell someone 'ok I let the person who can do something about this know.' Do your jobs, also try doing more actual shit
in general instead of leaving Fen to do 90% of everything because you like to be 'behind the scenes.' Cut the crap, you don't do anything behind the scenes either. It's supposed
to be work. Don't like it or aren't gonna do it or let the rest of them do it for you, then get out. Asap. We know we're in the final phase of the site, that maybe we'll get another 2 years or so of some enjoyment out of tops. That's not a reason to stop giving a shit
, that's exactly why it needs people who are still passionate to some degree or at least have some measure of enthusiasm for it. Half-hearted, 'too cool to care' staffing shows what it's done to other smalltime places like ours. And if Macil sees this as a little more than a marginally interesting coding project and not a labor of love to actually put real time into the community
and making decisions based on real engagement with it, and we already know things below that level are gonna get done with scrawling-out-Monday's-assignment-on-Sunday-night level care, then I guess delete /site/ and don't bother with any work at all and let set things adrift for however long it lasts. I realize neither admin posts on /oat/ (and hardly at all outside of that) but other people do, so get to work.
So there; if you care enough to try, you don't need to delete the chat, you don't need to cut off serious discussion from /oat/, you don't need the less-rules board to be totally lawless, you don't need to make all this things we have to rehash every few months, and you don't need to make it a full time job for yourselves if you actually share the load, try to plan, be organized, and make at least a three-quarter-ass attempt to give a shit about the state of things and be proactive instead of (months later)-reactive. Your positions are a privilege to take care of this place, not side with the people who sit back in the peanut gallery and scorn it and its value and mock the concept of caring about it. Start acting like you enjoy having the role for the right reasons and you like participating at some level and encouraging others to participate, or get the heck out. Maybe you'd have something to contribute to this thread in terms of direction and ideas if you were actually engaged with the boards in question, instead of, once again, Fen being the sole staff to make a single post in addition to being the one who had to start the conversation (again.) I know he probably feels the most responsibility since he's technically always supposed to have been co-owner and equal partner all this time but maybe other people do stuff too, alright. Try not making FGI's post be the most apt summation of everything;>>9961>If the Discord was deleted right now, Macil would still be a worthless bum, Astra would still half-follow through on ideas someone else came up with months ago, and the half dozen threads on /site/ with zero staff response would continue to be ignored. Like I said, you're allowed to care, but maybe its time to just accept that things are going to stay fucked for the foreseeable future and just try to make the best of it, despite what's out of your control? >If you really care about Ponychan being run properly and efficiently and making sure that everything associated with Ponychan is held up to a higher standard than the Discord, then you're just going to drive yourself insane.
The original version of this was much harsher. Thank Crimson for getting me to cut some of you, specifically, more slack than I think you deserve.