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Updates, part 2. ## AdminCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 9355[View][Last 50 Posts]

Hello everyone, we've got some new things currently on the table that we'd like to open up to discussion right now.

We're trying to differentiate the boards better so that none of them are redundant and needlessly splitting the same share of similar threads, and instead allow them to foster different atmospheres. When boards are too similar, users tend to stick to the more popular one because they have no reason to venture out to others because they have the same but less content.

This includes some kind of differentiation between /oat/ and /chat/.

Along with that, we're also considering whether /gala/ should continue to be a separate board. Serial threads existing within their own containment board makes it hard for new users to discover them, and discourages users in them from exploring other threads. Our board software has special support to avoid busy threads from being bumped too often causing them to stay at the top of a board, so serials wouldn't necessarily disrupt /oat/ or /chat/ by eternally hogging the top position. The #cyclic tag allows a serial thread to not need to be re-posted regularly to get around reply limits, instead allow old replies to be automatically removed as new ones are made. We're eager to hear feedback on whether these features are enough to make /oat/ or /chat/ suitable for all of our serial threads.

In keeping with our drive for a moderation team that has a more consistent communication standard as labeled in our Site Staff Standards, F has currently been suspended from the moderation team since we can't seem to get ahold of him. We are also welcome back Rainbro, the previously !!Rainbow Dash mod as !!Harshwhinny. Who had previously stepped down due to a lack of time.


This thread will serve as the place for any suggestions or discussion related to the site itself that you'd like to share or have discussed with the current mods and administrative staff.
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Macaroni !RevGiOKgRoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11608

>>11605
/gala/ has been gone...

Starshine!Laura/wmXMCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11610

>>10295
VBulletin is fugly, chans are way more aesthetic.

Macaroni !RevGiOKgRoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11612

>>11610
>aesthetic.

Not the best argument; forums being a clumsy medium is.


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Politics cyclic on /chat/? Macaroni !RevGiOKgRoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11529[View]

Like 1/3 of the catalog is just political threads that went some forgettable number of posts and died out, and it feels like several of them could have fit in as part of the same cyclic.

If nothing else, only one thread would need hidden instead of two or three new ones each day.
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Macaroni !RevGiOKgRoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11546

>>11544
That's the thing, a serial should be able to have an appropriate place to be.

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Not even most of the actual serial threads want to be cyclic. Because it's not about the conversations, it's about attention and presence on the board.

Macaroni !RevGiOKgRoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11594

Nothing?


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!!Harshwhinny ## ModCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11586[View]

Unsurprising everyone, I have once again left the Ponychan mod team as of several weeks ago. Despite my desire to be an active member of both the moderation team and the site community, my responsibilities and commitments are more pressing, and take the vast majority of my time. As such, it is frequently several weeks before I find myself with a day off, and even then I end up needing to dedicate that time to schoolwork and housework, but I digress.

I wanted to thank the administrative team for allowing me to return from my initial leave, and their patience and understanding. I'd also like to thank anyone and everyone who gave me their confidence, or at least the benefit of the doubt. I apologize for the time it took me to prepare this message, it was never my intent to stay out of the loop as long as I had. I have faith in both the staff and the community that you will be able to trudge along as you always have, and wish you all the best in your endeavors.

With Love,
Rainbro !!RainbowDash !!Harshwhinny

!AppLeJAcK.Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11587

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>>11586
Be well, good luck with your responsibilities, and I'll hope to talk to you soon when next you have time to shitpostcirclejerk

Starshine!Laura/wmXMCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11589

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Take care.

Macaroni !RevGiOKgRoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11593

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Good luck.


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Site Feedback ## ModCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1574[View][Last 50 Posts]

Hello everyone.

We've decided to create a feedback thread so that you can share with us your thoughts and opinions on Ponychan as it stands right now.

Topics this includes that we would like particular feedback on include:

Members of Staff.
Rules.
Board Structure.
Handling of reports/Issues.

Or anything else that you feel you would like to discuss with the members of staff to improve the site.
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AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 9102

>>9101
>Implying this is a forum

>Implying it's legitimate half of the time


>Implying most people who make jokes are bad people who deserve to be permabanned for it


I can see you hate some users anon.

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11591

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Thanks for handling new post errors well. I should've never dropped the habit of copying post bodies to an external text editor, but I guess becoming less careful with age is inevitable. Gave me an idea that might be a good one, even.

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11592

Is this possible to bring back this little tune to the Geocities theme?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwzgLZYervw


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/oat/ to /chat/ derailing Macaroni !RevGiOKgRoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11583[View]

Instead of dumping non-political threads that get political trolling into /chat/, can the offending posts just be deleted or something?


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On Mikie and his Anonymous Freinds Trip Touhous Based 'Titles' 'The God Himself' Stagemaster Foalins!oImGreatxACountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11038Locked[View]

Uh, can someone talk to them about calling me an ugly autist with down syndrome? I mean, since we're talking about cleaning up chat and all.

Man does it suuuure hurt my feelings.
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Trip Touhous Based 'Titles' 'The God Himself' Stagemaster Foalins!oImGreatxACountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11063

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>>11062

They have to import truckloads of fresh souls for Astra to ritualistically devour.

I'm amazed they manage with as few staff as they have.

Meme Monk!ScyphTlOY6Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11115

>>11066
Oh? You don't sound sure!

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11572

>>11038
I almost never come here, but Mikie posts pictures of mai waifu all the time and I used to collect them in a folder on my computer until I decided it was too much work. And I can't help but read his name as "Milkie," which makes me think of Pinkie's tits.

None of this is related to your problem, downy, but I hope you can take pleasure in knowing you're not as weird as me.


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Dan Derp !HHpSeFdCvsCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11564Locked[View]

i got a joke, THIS SITE AND IT'S MODS


HAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Kabel the Norwegian Cleric BroncoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11565

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I also, gotta joke

U IN THIS SHIRT

Dan Slut !HHpSeFdCvsCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11566

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>>11565
i got a other joke, your sex life


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'Undefined varible: mod' glitch on Uboachan? AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11559[View]

This has happened on Uboachan every time I tried posting, what does this mean?
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hCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11561

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>>11559
>uses vichan, an offshoot of TB
>different website
>no such variable called mod-- there are keys and there are cookies but no variable
>this error page shouldn't even exist

Why are you asking this here? Ask on vichan's support board. Better yet, ask on this uboa whatever, why are you asking here?

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11562

This better be a site glitch.

Real Bags 420Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11563

>>11561
>ask on this uboa whatever, why are you asking here?
well clearly cause he cant post on uboa


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Ponychan is now open source ## ModCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11512[View]

I've uploaded Ponychan's source code to a Git repo here. Going into detail on how to use git would be too much work, and there are tutorials all over the internet on how to use it so I'm not going to explain that. If you're a developer you should already have a decent idea on how to use it, and if you don't, there's no time like the present to learn. The README file, which is displayed on the repo's main page explains how to actually install the source code in a VM for editing.
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!Huponyda2YCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11525

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>>11524
Really?

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>>11525
That's weird...I'll ask Macil about it.

Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11548

You should be able to make pull requests now. Let me know if it's still denying access. You will need a BitBucket account though.
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Homepage stuff Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11366[View]

I know you guys have been waiting awhile, but we've mostly been getting tech stuff settled before going forward with anything else.

We're updating the board descriptions and staff info to reflect some recent changes.
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## ModCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11542

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>>11541
I mean, I could just remove the MySQL entry, but my luck I'd probably break something.

hiCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11545

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>>11542
Set up a development environment then...

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>>11545
Macil helped me set one up, but I'd rather get it done on the server now.


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Maroon Auburn!QEUQfdPtTMCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11487[View]

So around two years ago for whatever reason I could not post pictures on here while on mobile

And now this right now just takes the cake. Cant even post on here on mobile without this bullshit popping up

FIX YO' SHIT

or make an app. Either one of the two..

☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11488

You are aware of two things, I hope.

A) Ponychan has never ever been optimized for mobile platforms.
B) /oat/ is not the place for issues about the site.

Maroon Auburn!QEUQfdPtTMCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11489

>>11488

Never knew this place existed in all the years of posting here.

Damn, I suck.

Anyway, fact is posting on mobiles worked for years. Now since like an hour ago it does not.

Is it my fault somehow? Is there something I can do?

Or should I just give up and not make a fus and shut up and accept things the way they are?

Beacuase I'm not the kind of person who gives up.

Macaroni !RevGiOKgRoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11527

>>11495
>>11495
>>11495
>>11495
>>11495


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/chat/ bumping Starshine!Laura/wmXMCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11485[View]

It's borked. Threads are getting randomly bumped (unless someone is ghostbumping them) and threads that should be past bumplimit are bumping.

Chewy [Element Of Fortitude]!MUSIC.FbVYCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11486

From what I understand, it was intended that threads get bumped occasionally so more people see them, because certain kinds of threads (usually porn and politics) often drown out other kinds of threads, so the auto-ghost-bumping was meant to balance things out to give smaller threads more of a chance, or something like that.

but threads at the bump limit probably shouldn't be doing this, yeah.


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Lets Explode, Kids !tcSassyDEQCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11367[View]

So since this seems to be such a large "issue" recently, lets talk about it.

Everyone has an issue with Astra. This really isn't something that can be hidden. One look at any front page and it seems there's quite a few people who dislike him.

I'm here to take a look at why. Specifically, him in his admin position.

This is not a thread about discussing Astra being removed from his position, nor whether or not he deserves his position. This thread will not contain any blatant attacks on anyone Though this should really be a no brainer seeing as this is against the rules!. Any sarcastic or insulting responses will not be responded to. I'd like to ask that anyone who has no interest in having a mature conversation would please not post.


Lets begin.


From what has become painfully obvious, the biggest issue surrounding Ponychans newest mistake seems to be that he doesn't do anything, and whenever he does, he's just taking credit for other peoples work. This is something I'm going to attempt to debunk right now.

As some of you already know, I have 3 prime examples to prove this to be false, and those are as follows:
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RubyCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11460

>>11422

Oh, yeah. Ruby#7784

Fen!!Shining ArmorCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11476

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>>11437
I never said he has nothing to do with the site, i'm saying that sass' definition of admin isnt applicable here.
>"The community" is something I keep seeing get brought up but I really have to ask what that entails for the site as a whole.
It's that, the entire site, thats the community that's spoken of.
>Definitely isn't /rp/ seeing how nearly everyone disparages it whenever its brought up in /site/ but that's nothing new.
Can you point to examples of this? I dont recall seeing comments directed at /rp/ at all, for good or ill.
>What he did wrong as admin.
Well to be frank, he essentially became macil's yes-man during that period, and i've already expressed how i felt about that.
I understand the reasons for doing so, but it was still wrong.

We're small enough that keeping track of the various sub communities isnt actually too difficult, especially if you've established a "See me if you have problems." stance and otherwise just check in occasionally.
If i went so far as to take notes it'd be a lot easier, but i'm far too lazy for that.
It also helps that, generally speaking, by this point we're a very laid back group of people that aren't too demanding.

>Astra somehow got Macil to relinquish Ponychan when all that was riding on that happening was by Macil's will alone.

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AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11477

>>11476
Thank God for a competent admin.


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Administration ## AdminCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11181[View]

After a discussion among the site staff over the past week or so, I've decided that we'll continue forward with having two administrators for the site.

Normally I'd lead this into a community discussion about who should be chosen to administrate along-side me yadda yadda etc etc.

Not really needed, the staff and most of the users who have commented are in agreement on this matter.

So welcome Fen back guys.
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Fen!!Shining Armor ## AdminCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11352

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I'd appreciate it if complaints about staff were kept concise and that this thread not become a circlejerk of such, that said i should probably unsticky this now, i think everyone who cares probably knows of the staff changes.

>>11344
>I personally think having a staff member who doesn't really involve themselves with the community, but works on the site, isn't exactly a problem.
It kind of is, mods / admins are supposed to be a part of the community, otherwise how can they act appropriately if a situation more nuanced than "Anonymous is posting porn on /board/" comes up?
The kind of moderating you're talking about can work, but only in communities that self-police to an extent, with mods simply performing clean up duty.

>The reason the others were so disliked is because they didn't do the latter either, at least to what I know of them.

Orange was disliked because he started doing his own thing in disregard to what staff / users wanted, along with no / infrequent communication with staff / users.
Inkwell essentially became an extension of orange instead of being a counter balance before dropping off the grid.
Macil was basically a repeat of orange, only he talked more, which isnt the same thing as communicating.
Mithent was 10/10 best admin this site has ever had.
Astra can defend himself.
I am biased.

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11353

>>11352
I love you

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>>11352

Mithent was too pure for this cruel world.


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Go to bread Silvie Strength!TwiDasH7n2Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10552[View]

Banning Anonthony and suspending TPWPAF is going to be a WTF-storm. You know this, I know this, the village drunk knows this. There are going to be angry arguments.

If you live in the U.S., I strongly suggest going to bed, since it's already midnight or later. The angry arguments will be much higher quality tomorrow, after people have slept.

Exhausted people make shitty decisions, write shitty arguments, and generally have a shitty time. These are urgent site events, but they are not so urgent that they need to be resolved tonight. The site will survive one night without TPWPAF's steady hoof.
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AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11049

>>11024
>>11025
To be fair, what you do doesn't have to fly in a real job if you're the boss.

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11222

"i'm sorry for lying about things to try to back up macil. sorry for lying about your ban history, which i was 100% wrong about, the reason for this ban in particular, which admittedly macil wasn't truthful with me about, and about 'misleading users instead of discussing it with staff', since you obviously discussed it immediately with multiple staff members before ever bringing it up with any users, and im especially apologetic to flutters, one of the hardest working, longest-suffering staff members, for my extremely shortsighted and public suspension which should never have happened. i hope you accept the apology and we can move on"

!AppLeJAcK.Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11333

Kek


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Jade!hArLey6LPMCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11291[View]

So like uhhhhhhhhh

How do some people expect other... people to want to post on this site when it is basically dead... all the time?

Not entirely sure if this is a /site/ appropriate thread, so if it isn't feel free to delete it.
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Jade!/lOsHARLEYCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11354

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>>11324
I have no clue. Last I saw him was in the Discord server, but that was a while ago because I left for a month or so. I'm back now but I haven't seen him and I've not asked around.

Macaroni !RevGiOKgRoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11410

Is he kill?

Jade!/lOsHARLEYCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11456



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[deleted] threads AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 9753Locked[View]

How about if a thread has no replies, actually delete the thread if the user clicks the "Delete" button?
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Macaroni !RevGiOKgRoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11248

Still an issue.

Macaroni !RevGiOKgRoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11359

Add this to the tracker?

## ModCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11365

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Added it to the tracker. In the future, you can just do that. That's why I made the stickied thread.


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Skinny!TripsCQs8sCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 9545Locked[View]

Eh can we get Vocaroo embeds back at some point?
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Les see dem tiddies girl

Macaroni !RevGiOKgRoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11334

>>11139
Yup.

Bump.

Zeke Roa!TRASH/BwvA ## ModCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11356

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I added it to the issue tracker


AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 9953Locked[View]

Apparently the staff dont even have a modboard b/c macil is too lazy and didnt think it was necessary. After it was brought up *again* recently that hey it would be nice and useful to have one, he could only be assed to say that it *would* be if it auto alerted the staff to new threads; this leads to the conclusion that he wont be adding one until or unless he tinkers around for the next 13 months making a *perfect* board that does exactly that, instead of making one *now* and doing that later at his leisure (and just letting one thread on it, that all staff add to their EXISTING "watched threads" list, serve as the alert); so posting this for the common-sense "good enough is better than nothing" message to him, in the implausible scenario he decides to drop by the site-issues board of "his" website. Thanks.
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Macaroni !RevGiOKgRoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 10858

>>10714
Le bigger problems fallacy

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11274

>>10714
>>10714
>>10714

Fen!!Shining Armor ## AdminCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 11311

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Why did nobody answer this?
He made a modboard about a week+ before he left.


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Uh, can someone talk to him about the threads he makes?
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>>11275
Dude get over yourself. Considering that vitriolic racism, harassment, and general cunt behavior are all allowed and endorsed by the moderators, Graham can basically do as he pleases. Stop autistically screeching every time he makes a political thread. I know you think you're being "balanced" or whatever, but considering that we have literal nazis dominating discussion, someone with far left tendencies isn't going to be the worst thing ever.

I never see you complaining about the painfully obvious political bait threads other people make though. Funny that.

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>user that mikie hates makes threads he disagrees with, but aren't actually against the rules
>no ban
color me impressed

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