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Season 8 Episode 13 Discussion Thread Marimo!!SpikeCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36828863

This thread is meant for discussing impressions on this week's episode, The Mean 6, during and after it airs.

Be mindful of saying spoilers before they show up on TV.

EquestriaGuy!1DerpyVA.6Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36828864

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It’s horsey time!

EquestriaGuy!1DerpyVA.6Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36828865

She sounded like Mrs. Cake

EquestriaGuy!1DerpyVA.6Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36828866

It’s the Monopoly: Trump Edition! Cheat to win!

EquestriaGuy!1DerpyVA.6Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36828867

Chrysalis sounds way different. Sounds more like Trixie

EquestriaGuy!1DerpyVA.6Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36828868

Damn, the Mean Six are awesome. Especially Twilight

EquestriaGuy!1DerpyVA.6Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36828869

Abrupt ending. Good episode. 8.75/10

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36828870

man this thread is dead.

EquestriaGuy!1DerpyVA.6Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36828871

>>36828870
yup. RIP ponychan. site is dead. fandom is dead. All there's left is former fans who use this site to socialize.

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>>36828871
tbh I'm just here because of http://boards.4chan.org/mlp/thread/32489917#p32490568
I don't even know if 'chan can reuse a deleted post's number if its deleted or not because I never had it happen on a board where posting was so slow.

I assume we are being rused though.

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I was waiting for this episode since it was listed in the official schedule. It did not disappoint!

Any time we get a look at the opposite side of any character on this show, we get a lot of funny moments. Applejack, Fluttershy and Rarity were awesome, calling back to a similar plot in The Return of Harmony in season 2.

8/10

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Decent episode. Chrysalis seems to have gone slightly bonkers in her time alone.

AustroSpikeCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36828879

Oh boy corrupted elements 2: Electric bogaloo.
Still fun,even if VERY unbelievable how the Mane 6 couldn't figure out various occurences were fishy.
>>36828868
Anti-Twilight would make a great villain on her own. Too bad we won't have that.
>>36828874
True that. The best thing was her prancing though.

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Tabitha certainly earned her pay with the giggly, unhinged, evil laughs.

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>>36828863
I watched it just now, and the leaked portion before.

Loved it. It was lame and flawed and that link to the /mlp/ board was the usual negative stuff which is why i avoid pony episode discussions. We now have a finite number remaining and i'm savoring each one.

Im sad the Queen doesnt even have a drone left to build a new hive, and that she has gotten bitter enough now to plan to kill. I really love her and want to see her make it!

More pony pleeeze

Toybox's card design goes here

Mk17Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36828882

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That episode was awesome!

It was paced kinda weird for me, but the whole package was pretty cool.

I thought evil twilight was more like twilight than twilight sometimes haha, miss that sarcastic attitude.

The ending was freaking insane!
A) They interacted with these things all day and never knew, just decided to leave well enough alone and move on haha (theres got to be a lesson in that im sure of it!)

And B) Did the elements just like, suck the life force out of something it saw as threat and turn them into wood? Ffs did it just kill some things?? Thats so intense! I love when the show just goes full-on hard core out of left field!

I like how the elements are basicly thought of as just, the nuke of equestria now haha.
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Btw id post in this thread sooner, but i cant watch the episodes till sunday, because of work, and also where i get the show. it's not released till sunday, and I try to avoid spoilers ^_^

But after sunday im down to talk some pones!
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>>36828868
>>36828869
Agreed!

>>36828873
Yeah they were just the discoreded versions again, which was fun to watch... Esp since we never really saw to much of discorded twilight.
Rarity was wayyy over the top haha but it was funny.

>>36828874
Dude yeah, i didnt even think about that! Shes a hive creature without a hive. Thats gotta be a rough thing to deal with. Im happy shes taking so long to reform because shes fun to watch :P

>>36828880
Im just assuming you ARE Tabitha... You did fine. :P

>>36828881
>We now have a finite number remaining
*fingers in ears*Lalalala
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AustroSpikeCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36828885

>>36828882
I think we do get some snarky if not sarcastic lines by Twilight here and there. Her evil clone just permas it.

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>>36828885
Haha yeeeeah, we do, seems like most of that has shifted to starlight though.

Which is totally cool btw.

Its why i love Starlight so much, shes down to earth.

Id love to hear a conversation between S1 twilight and S8 starlight haha.

Edit: You know what? Toss sunset in that convo too

haha
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>>36828886
squee oh my gosh that would be sweet albeit nonsensical
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Mk17Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36828889

>>36828888
Ooo esp if glim glam and sunset still knew the future haha.

Like they were there to give Twilight advice, knowing what she will go through.

And also to just pal around a little.

We know starlight has the power to do that, so its not tooo far fetched haha.
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The ending was too dark for my taste.
The idea for the episode was cool, but eh.
They really didn't deserve to go like this, especially without even being unnoticed. at least they could have gave them a good death

This episode both made me angry and sad. gg no re
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>>36828890
I didn't like the animals being mad at Fluttershy. That was kinda depressing.

YatesCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36828893

>>36828892
Yeah, she had it rough.

OpinionatedCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36828896

Finally got around to seeing this one. It seemed like an inhomogeneous mishmash of interesting new ideas and rehashed old ones. And while the old ideas (Chrysalis back for revenge, discorded mane 5) were regrettably dull and played out, all the new ideas (Chrysalis dealing with uncooperative a-holes, the comedic back and forth between ponies and faux-nies, freakin evil Twilight) were actually well done, neatly explored, and never overstayed their welcome. I was worried from the start that it would be a dramatic adventure and fall flat, but it worked much better as a lighthearted comedy.

The part with the tree was disappointing though, the possibility of the elements being misused is a fun one to think about, yet apparently the tree can just prevent that. Which raises only more questions, like would they have been able to use the elements if they weren't at the tree? Return of Harmony suggests not, but they wouldn't be melted at least. And why WERE the elements at the tree? Las season they removed them without a problem, I thought they'd keep them around like they used to, maybe in a vault. Isn't the tree a terribly unhelpful place to keep them?

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>>36828896
It makes sense that they returned them to the Tree of Harmony so it could continue to safely protect the Everfree Forest from growing.

OpinionatedCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36828898

>>36828897
But that was Discord's fault that it happened in the first place. And they left them there because they were worried about that, but then they took them out later because they realized they weren't needed there anymore.

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>>36828898
It was established that the Tree would be dying without the elements so they returned them (in season 4 and in the season 7 finale).

Just because they were able to use them against the Pony of Shadows does not mean the Tree will not need them for an extended amount of time to fully recover again.

That's why they returned them once more IMO.
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>>36828899
Again, that was Discord's fault. He's the one who was killing the tree, and even then it was fine for over 1000 years. I'm fairly certain we never saw them return the elements in season 7, it seemed heavily implied that the tree no longer needed them or they wouldn't have taken them out.

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>>36828900
It's of no relevance whose fault it was, the tree was dying and they had to return the elements to have it recover. Its power was depleted.

There was no indiciation that it wouldn't be necessary to return the elements after the defeat of the Shadow Pony. Had the Tree not still needed the elements they could have retrieved them once more way earlier.

In fact, when Star Swirl suggested to take out the elements Twilight even said the Tree would most likely die and Equestria suffer through it.
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OpinionatedCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36828902

>>36828901
Only if they destroyed the Elements. Forever.
And they still planned on doing it.

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>>36828902
Apparently the Tree needs the elements to "charge" its power. Once fully charged it can go without the elements for a long time - it was able to hold off the plunder seeds for a thousand moons even without the elements before it became weak.

Even if they wouldn't destroy them, the Tree needs the elements to charge once more. The episodes made that very clear.

unlikeable ponyCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36828908

>>36828868
my issue there is that Twilight and RD seem to have their elements swapped: Twilight is the one who shouldn't give a crap about others, dash should be the starscream.
I get why they're like that for story reasons, but still :p



that being said, I do agree I enjoyed them this episode.
Kind of would have liked to see them again, though the other 5 are kind of one dimensional.

>>36828870
>>36828871
Sadly :(
Given how I'm commenting late (having to babysit like everyday made me not able to get a chance to watch till today >.<) its kind of hypocritical, but sad to have so little discussion :(

>>36828874
Yar, chrysalis is basically a crazy has been at this point.

You almost feel BAD for her at this point, given how far she's fallen. I kind of could see a redemption plot for her where she'd try and spring another villain from tartarus to use as muscle and realize just how unable to control them she is.

>>36828886
What I liked most was how irrellevent starlight was to the episode.

>>36828903
>>36828901
>>36828900
>>36828899
Honestly, they've been playing way too fast and loose with the elements, and have just mucked things up way too much.

I wasn't a fan of them pulling them out of the tree in the pony of shadows episode, simply because the EOH ruin suspense by being TOO powerful and instant win-- its why in yugioh they trashed exodia after like the first episode, it just hurt pacing.


One thing I like about EQG compared to pony is at least the elements are a bit more multi-functional and seemingly less powerful than in pony.


>>36828890
I'm sad they got rid of the original melted look for them.

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So... once again the good guys murder some clones, and this is totally okay. In this case, The Tree of Harmony. I mean damn, that tree doesn't fuck around. Does that mean if the true Elements ever end up losing their way and stop embodying their Element, the tree will kill them too? Or does it just have a hate boner for Everfree plants?

Man, I can see that, where one of the 6 goes through some devestating loss and stops caring about whatever adjective they're supposed to care about, and the other five try to get them to see the light and get their spirit back by taking them to see the tree, and... oops.

It's kind of sad because Twilight's clone genuinely looked like she could be a significant threat to the main 6, while Chrysalis remains as always an incompetent buffoon. So whatever the six face in the future, it'll be some trumped up baddie, or worse it'll be Chrysalis with yet another macguffin to ensure her victory. Besides the delightfully grey morals of having to punish a clone who was born to be evil, I would've liked having to see Twilight Sparkle having to fight against her greatest opponent: herself.

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>>36828911
Chrysalis is a decent antagonist, she's just no longer "big bad" tier antagonist that can threaten all of equestria on her own, now she's more "personal enemy" tier antagonist in that the most she can do is menace the individual mane six.
She could do well, like Nega-twilight said, getting "friends" and doing a villain teamup.


That being said, there's no other minor villains around for her to team up with at the moment.

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>>36828911
Its not really clear exactly what triggered the Tree of Harmony to do that.

Yes, assume its cuz the "clones" were bad, but thats not necessarily why. It may have simply recognized them as stolen caricatures for its avatars and reclaimed the "part of the pony" or something.

Still, it was a bit startling behavior for the Tree of Harmony as we know it.

I really liked the fake Twilight. I really didnt like that the 6 never learned what really happened. I mean, they've presumably let it go but, they still think the real ponies did all the bad things they witnessed.

Im not sure just how much of a doormat this episode's lesson is trying to teach us little girls to be.

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>>36828923
The why is pretty obvious IMO, they phyiscally attacked the three (minus the Twilight clone).

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>>36828928
As usual, discussion triggers a need to rewatch for things mentioned i missed. Thanks!

Yes, some were attacking the tree, but there was also a clear recognition thing going on with the elements, which individually sought out their respective targets. If it was simply the attacking, then Twiggy would have been spared. I wonder if it was because they were imposters or because they were bad. Hmm.

On the rewatch i was reminded how fun bored Pinky Prime was, when she first draped out n rolled onto her back. I just love the way the physical presence of the ponies is just so...grabbable. Each voodoo clone was the exact opposite of their Element trait. Didn't care for the really lame lying but it did illustrate how much work lies are, and Rarity's greed was kinda fun and clearly illustrate how ugly that behavior is, and Flutter's un-kindness was deliciously mean.

I really enjoyed Chrissy's complete refocus to Glimmy now (completely forgetting twiggy), ironically attempting exactly Glim's plan for Twilight for similar reasons. I liked how she's become so used to loyalty that she was completely unprepared for the rambunctious insubordination she was faced with. I think i already said, but i really really liked bad Twi a whole bunch and actually losing the Mean 6 is kind of sad. As bad as they were, i liked them so much.

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>>36828929
Yeah, the tree was not just reacting to the attcks but also to the clones' characteristics being polar opposites to the elements of harmony.

But I think the physical attack was what caused the tree to retaliate in the end - and it picked those it attacked carefully based on their characters.

It might even have considered Chrysalis an ally in that particular situation, not attacking her but rather the Twilight clone who was fighting her.

OpinionatedCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36828931

>>36828929
>>36828930
I think the question was, was it either of those in particular or both? Like it probably wouldn't have destroyed them if they weren't evil clones, but their hostile behavior clearly activated some defense.

The point is that this raises questions like, if they hadn't attacked the tree like that, would they have actually used the elements?

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>>36828931
I doubt it because the first element to show a negative reaction was the one of Generosity and all it took was the Rarity clone to point at it.

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>>36828930
>chryssie not attacked
That's a good observation.

>>36828931
Do you mean if they COULD have used the Elements? I wonder. The Elements seem similar to the One Ring in that both are loyal to those who created them yet their enemies are irrationally certain they may be harnessed for use for their own purposes.

Hm my fanfic from a year ago has Chrissie use the Elements successfully, interesting.

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>>36828879
>Anti-Twilight would make a great villain on her own

This. So much this.

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>>36828935
Heh, fun meme.

unlikeable ponyCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36828942

>S9 ends with the tree of harmony deciding to vaporize equestria due to its percieved evil, and the mane six end up in a "battle in the center of the mind" situation after being grabbed by the tree where they're forced to prove equestria is worth sparing

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>>36828942
>In a shocking turn of events, after the tree is defeated, Twilight determines that the Equestria would be a friendlier place if the souls of all ponies were merged into that of one collective consciousness. The pony instrumentality project is initiated and the collective pony friendship is formed; forever ending the loneliness and alienation that has always troubled individual ponies. All ponies are now and forever, friends.

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>>36828943
Congratulations.
Congratulations.
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conratulations.
congratulations.

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