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ONE OF THE REASONS I LIKE THIS sorcerer supreme Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36823446

site is that we aren't ass kissers like equestria daily & derpibooru we aren't afraid to put some criticism on the show it's normal here while it's only occasional in places like that why is it so hard for bronie to criticise the show? but anyway it's one reason I perfer here instead of the other places

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36823448

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Ex-nor/mlp/erson here, does that mean you have a healthy balance of both enjoyment and constructive criticism for the show? Back in the old country it's nothing but criticism and contempt for those who don't criticize. One of the main reasons I stayed there for so long was the traffic but it's pretty dead nowadays...then there's the issue of if you're someone who doesn't partake in, shall we say, certain NSFW "interests" you get hounded and told to come here.

NostalgiaSchmaltz!jdKt6Dif02Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36823474

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>>36823448
>Back in the old country it's nothing but criticism and contempt for those who don't criticize

Browsing through the threads discussing the new reveals, I found it was a mix of both.

There were people who hated it, and people who hated the people who were hating it.

There were cries of "this looks like shit" and cries of "omg stop overreacting it's not even out yet!!"

Seemed pretty balanced.

>>36823446
Yeah, it's one of the reasons I stopped going to EQD all those years ago: The place has just become a positivity circlejerk, where if you criticize anything, you get a bunch of people crying and whining at you to "leave the fandom if you hate the show so much". A quick glance over the comment section for the latest news, and I couldn't find a single even somewhat-critical comment. Literally every single comment was an outpouring of praise and hype.
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AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36823475

>>36823474
yea one of my theory's is that since a good chuck of them still do fan art, fanfiction, cosplay, go to the conventions, have pony avatars etc they have to stick to there guns since at the point acknowledging the flaws is tough pill to swallow

Mac !RevGiOKgRoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36823486

>>36823446
Sunk-cost fallacy.

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36823487

>>36823486
yea seen a lot of that specially with collectors

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36823488

personly I got tired of MLP FIM always having limitations it was good when mccarthy was still writing since she mange to find ways around TV-Y rating however the other writers haven't been as successful in finding a way around it and it shows that why I lstarting to move on to we bare bears, star vs the forces of evil and specially steven universe since SU is basically at times deconstruction of MLP FIM if you'd pay close to the show story & characters(
but that's a story for another day)

I wonder sometimes if MLP FIM was TV-Y7 it would have gotten less hate & taken little more seriously I mean it still would have gotten it because of the fandom the fact most non bronies were overall ok with us until it got little off hand quickly somewhere between seasons 2 & 5 but I think if it was like that things would have little less bad but that's my opinion
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NostalgiaSchmaltz!jdKt6Dif02Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36823490

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>>36823488
This show will never be taken "seriously" because MLP is ingrained in society's collective unconscious as a girls' franchise, and as such, non-girls are not allowed to enjoy it without being ridiculed endlessly. No matter how good it is.

Even if the show was ATLA-levels of incredible, it'd still get shit on for being a "girls show" and any non-female fans would still be labeled "creepy pedophile manchildren".

Mac !RevGiOKgRoCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36823491

>>36823490
A chance to nudge things in a better direction existed, but got squandered.

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>>36823491
*image of Lauren Faust*

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36823495

>>36823490 your right I wander why creator driven like "star vs the forces of evil" & "steven universe" girls cartoons can be taken seriously?
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>>36823486
x-men fans have been like that for awhile specially when marvel stop relieing everything on x-men & showed that they can succeed without x-men

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>>36823495
Star and SU aren't really targeted at a female demographic as much as FiM is. It's probably better to say that they're targeted at both boys and girls. Plus FiM was also made to appeal to a younger demographic, which can make it feel just immature enough that some people probably wouldn't take it as seriously as Star or SU.

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36823517

>>36823513
true faust said it was for girls but ok for men to watch nefcy & sugar however made there shows gender neutral that just lean little more female makes me wander how MLP FIM would have looked like after shows like SVTFOE & SU came out before it if those 2 would have influence it

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>>36823517
I think another thing to take into account would be that SU and Star are both original series, whereas FiM is still part of the MLP franchise, and even with good quality stuff it's still going to be associated with its earlier incarnations and their stigma.

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36823519

>>36823518
true specially if you look at transformers as an example I goes in the words of ultron unlike MLP FIM Star & SU have no or at least less strings on them
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>>36823517
I wouldn't be surprised if both shows were at least a little inspired by FiM, at least from a greenlight standpoint. Quirky girly cartoons from established female creators weren't really a thing beforehand.

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36823523

>>36823522
disney has already had cartoons before MLPFIM with female lead kim possible as an example & daron nefcy creator of star has been planing to her show for years

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36823524

>>36823522
& steven universe got green lit in a similar way to over the garden wall & that was reaction to pilot short it also help that people like pen ward sugar former boss & friend vouched for her

sorcerer supremeCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36823525

>>36823524
plus CN also isn't new to shows with female leads they had powerpuff girls

also the 2 previous posts were me

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36823526

>>36823523
>>36823524
>>36823525
I did say GREENLIT and a LITTLE inspired, since this wasn't really a trend a couple of years ago (KP and PPG had male creators for one thing, and those were early 2000s)

I just don't think it's a coincidence ever since FiM premiered, there has been a lot of girl/little kid-leaning cartoons with an offbeat feel

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36823527

>>36823526
actually I think that's more from adventure time since AT influence a lot of the cartoons out there one major reason why is probably because pen ward is friends with most of these shows creators

steven universe has some MLP influence but that's probably because raven m molisee is writer/storyboard artist on steven universe she was storyboard artist on MLP FIM seasons 1-3 + first equestria girls but IMO steven universe is more of a deconstruction or realistic(still deciding on it) take on MLP FIM themes & archetypes
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sorcerer supremeCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36823528

>>36823527
that was me

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36823529

>>36823527
Alright, i get what you're a fanboy of, I'm just looking at a bigger picture beyond your hipster SpongeBob shows

sorcerer supremeCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36823530

>>36823529
so do I the difference is I take each puzzle piece in to consideration basically most of the dots connect back to pen ward work as one of the major modern influence & the shows that do take influence on MLP FIM obviously think is good but at the same time hasn't done enuff do to it's limitations so sugar or nefcy or one of there writers who are fans figured they take the next logical step to something like MLP FIM since they have more freedom to do it because sugar, nefcy & allregri see probably faust as friend & mentor & like MLP FIM for what is but wanted there shows to be evolution of what MLP FIM started. that sums up most of what I'm trying to say
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>>36823530
In all fairness, I was looking mostly through an executive's perspective. It took over a decade of pitching for Phineas and Ferb to get picked up.

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36823532

>>36823531
that's alright

sorcerer supremeCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36823533

>>36823532
that's alright for some cartoons it's journey of itself to get on TV

Bollox!60EJwbmzEsCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36823535

It's not that it's hard for them to criticize. It's because the show is perfect so there is nothing to criticize.

sorcerer supremeCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36823540

>>36823535
if that was true I wouldn't have made this thread in the first place

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36823573

>>36823527
I see as deconstruction of MLP FIM after re watching some episodes & comparing story, characters, mythos & archetypes made a small list as an example

1.pearl if you think about it a deconstruction on twilight sparkle they share a love for teaching, history of there people, the magic comes out of there head, if you think about it pearl was in love with rose quartz but in the beginning it was more student teacher thing in the vain of twilight/celestia only taken to more realistic conclusion(that's my theory anyway) also pearl to me feels like what twilight herself would be like thousands of years in the future with most of her friends gone basically keeping it together but with a few wrong steps away from going jack in samurai jack season 5 levels basically pearl is what could be in a later point in her life

2.amethyst is soft deconstruction of Rainbow Dash/AppleJack & most tomboy archetypes in girls cartoons really similar to that by taking a more realistic approach & having some consequences for amethyst actions specially when she goes POOH after her gems gets some level of damage

3. the diamonds leaders of GEM empire I notice that

White Diamond = Celestia
Blue Diamond = Luna
Pink Diamond = Cadance
has anyone else notice it?

4. rose quartz is deconstruction on celestia: being all knowing leader, leader for a whole(in rose case strong chuck) race, telling all pony/gems that there something special about them if just work hard enuff but also the dark side of it like even good people can have few demons like rose killing pink diamond I mean imagine reaction of celestia telling twilight she killed somebody because they were very close from ruling equestria?

Bollox!60EJwbmzEsCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36823576

>>36823540

Well it seems you are the one in error. I forgive you.

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36823579

>>36823576
its actually you the one in error because if what you said was true threads like mine & similar wouldn't exist were there's wood there's fire but I will take your forgiveness out of pity

sorcerer supreme Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36823580

>>36823579 /\
last post was me

Bollox!60EJwbmzEsCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36823581

>>36823579

no no i insist. the other threads are conspiracies. So I can how you would be mistaken.

sorcerer supreme Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36823582

>>36823581
& criticism mostly plays a key role when making a conspiracys so I'm not since I know the building blocks into making conspiracys

& there are criticism threads like the one about the show loose ends as resent example

AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36823692

>>36823517
one reason I think STAR & SU are taken more seriously is because people are smart enuff to know that STAR & SU are 2 shows just trying to tell this big story with an ending in mind & not changed by a toy line mark waid once said comic writers put a little of themselves in comic characters they write & its similar with most creator driven cartoons as well so you see a lot of daron nefcy on SVTFOE & see a lot of rebecca sugar in steven universe that's one major reason I like the music from steven universe more then MLP FIM there more personal and at times it feels like rebecca sugar & her team is writing music because they want too while for MLP team basically its mandatory & they have to do it
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>>36823446
Because the show is already ruined since S3, its so ruined until no one want to criticism it anymore.

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>>36823733
small spelling nitpick its "criticize" otherwise I agree with this guy

EquestriaGuy!1DerpyVA.6Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36823739

>>36823734
It's demonio. English isn't exactly his first language.

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>>36823573
also steven, garnet, pearl, peridot & lapis = mane 6

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>>36823770
forgot amethyst!

Marimo!Mrb.TaRPksCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36823796

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AnonymousCountry code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36823797

>>36823796
there's the gem 6 + random ruby connie season 1 design someone in another forum pointed out she little taller in season 1

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>>36823797
What are you doing or trying to say? I was just making a joke parodying this image from a comic because of how you forgetting Amethyst reminded me of how Applejack was excluded from Twilight's group of friends.

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>>36823798
didn't really get the joke so I thought of something else related to image

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>>36823798
but not that you pointed out it is funny

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>>36823796
kinda related: peridot had a better redemption then starlight glimmer

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>>36823824
>kinda related
Not really since Starlight hasn't even been brought up in this thread, and all I did was post a picture that happened to have Peridot.

You just seem to have a tendency to constantly bring up other cartoons.

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>>36823829
yea I know peridot randomly appeared but since its random picture of peridot in site called ponychan its little justified really

plus I wanted that out there & out of my head

I can't help but compere MLP FIM to other cartoons specially ones that are doing similar stuff to it like SU

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>>36823446
hello something I notice related to this on twitter fans of the show that don't have pony related avatar are more likely to criticises the show then fans that do have pony related avatar on twitter has anyone notice that?
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>>36823475
true good chuck of bronies have no real back plan so they must support fandom or else they have nothing the people who have left the fandom probably do always had backup plan

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>>36823446
>we aren't ass kissers like equestria daily & derpibooru
You said it man. dbooru won't even allow anyone to criticize tags or anything anymore.
Example:
https://derpibooru.org/1905311
Does this look like a satyr to you? It doesn't. And they will ban everyone who wonders why he tagged it as that when it clearly isn't. You can make a ton of points why that one tag shouldn't be there, and they will still ban you or remove your post. And that's just one thing of many.

a lost pony !piNKiEPie.Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36829536

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>>36823446
>praises not ass kissing
>while ass kissing

Definitely Ponychan material.

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>>36829535
Any pony site that still takes itself seriously should be shut down.

a lost pony !piNKiEPie.Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36829551

>>36829541
Nopony took your bait.

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EquestriaGuy!1DerpyVA.6Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36829553

>>36829551
Did you expect a flood of people from derpibooru?

a lost pony !piNKiEPie.Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36829555

>>36829553
From things ive heard im starting to think i should hang out there instead of here.

EquestriaGuy!1DerpyVA.6Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36829557

>>36829555
What things? Why?

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>>36829557
I'm informed
they actually still like the show there
(but you didnt hear that from me. My sources are unreliable at best.)

EquestriaGuy!1DerpyVA.6Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 36829563

>>36829562
that's a reason to stay here. We're realistic about the declining quality of the show. While there are still gems, the show has become quite mediocre, and even the gems aren't really in the same universe as what the show was around season 2.

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>>36829563
I'm at least hopeful for S9 and G5. Grogar and Starlight getting BTFO by sombra has me intrigued

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>>36829563
>"realistic"

You know, change is inevitable and while I do lv the charming simplicity of the early seasons, and I admit things were a bit rudderless for a while there, it's my firm opinion that the show has some really enjoyable growth and is still of good quality.

It's not "realism" to just be grumpy that something you loved changes. That's called being a curmudgeon. Now, I'm not saying I want starry-eyed unquestioning worship of the show but it does get a bit old to have you crochety haters pissing on wat I love while I'm trying to discuss it with people.


Further, it's just confusing. I have difficulty separating those who still enjoy pony from those who hate it when all they say is that it sucks ass.

meh. Don't go changing tho, I don't know what I'm talking about anyway.


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