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So I lived in UK my whole life, and me and my family moved around to different homes around Wales. And of course I am an arachnophobe but luckily britian isn't know for it's big spiders.

But it's only since August since we've been getting these big spiders I never seen before. If it was just the one time i'd think nothing of it, but we've been finding one of them every few weeks and it's unsettling given I've always took comfort in the idea of living in a country that doesn't have big spiders... so why now? Where do these little buggers come from?

Picture is of the spider in my bath tub last night. I would of moved the camera closer but feared it would jump or something. It took ages to wash it down the plug hole because even when it curled up in a ball (it was still alive) it barely fit down the gaps of the plug hole.

So what spiders are these and why have they suddenly became "common house spiders" in the last three months?

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>>42098237
Looks kind of like a wolf spider.

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>>42098238
>wolf spider
Arn't those aussie spiders? What are they doing in UK?

That's the whole reason why I will never go to Australia!
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>>42098240
Wolf spiders are pretty much everywhere.
They are different shapes and sizes in different places, but all wolf spiders none the less. Not different enough to be a new species.

Also, it might be an invasive thing that hitched a ride on some imported fruit or something.
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That's why I got fly screens in front of all the windows. Nothing may enter!

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Get a good insecticide...

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>>42098243
Ugh I hate the fact there are fruits and such with spider eggs in it. I wouldn't want to be the unlucky customer to get one of those. But the fact it happens who knows what invasive spider species are in UK now.

>>42098244
We do have gaps that need filling around the house.

>>42098245
Is ther any other good methods to keep spiders out? I think we once had some sort of low-sonic pluggin for spiders but it didn't work.

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>>42098246
What would really suck is if you didnt know and you bit into a banana or something and millions of spider babys hatched in your mouth right at that moment.

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>>42098247
Good thing I rarely eat bananas. Now I have more excuse not to than just a minor phlem issue.

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>>42098248
It could happen with any fruit though!
Take a bite of a strawberry, BAM! mouth full a spides!

Go to peel an orange, WA-POW! Hands renamed to "spider city"!

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>>42098249
Dude... don't make me fear strawberries, they're my favourite fruit.

And ironically, there have been times I went out and brought a box of strawberries and find at least one, single tiny spider on them.

Tiny spiders don't bother me so much, it's big ones though.

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>>42098250
You only saw one tiny spide?

That means there were THOUSANDS!

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Ill stop now.

But thats for spookling me.

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>>42098251
It was just the one tiny spider in a box of strawberries.

But last night, between brushing my teeth and going to bed, I killed 3 daddy long legs, a tiny spider and washed the spider in the picture down the bath's drain.

That's just too many spiders to deal with before bed.

>>42098253
No problem, I spookled you good.

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>>42098254
Yeah, i would say thats too many spiders.

Is it starting to get colder there? They might be coming in to get warm.

Edit:
Also, you should always rinse your produce.

>I spookled you good.

It will take a while, but ill be alright.
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>>42098257
Yeah autumn is approaching, I figured that's the reason. I just don't want to see spiders once every other week for the next two seasons.

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>>42098260
Use Diatomaceous Earth to keep them out.

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>>42098246
Spiders for the most part are harmless. They just look scary.

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>>42098283
>They just look scary.
Thats the scary part!

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>>42098285
Dawwww

kill it with fire

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>>42098238

It does, except the legs look a bit longer.

I saw a black widow the other weekend. They're native to this area but not very common.

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Only spiders I see are Brown recluses outside and mini spiders which you can barely see in my home sometimes.

Cellar spiders every now and then.

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>>42098286
You're a monster.

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>>42098261
Dunno what that is. Did a quick google.
Spider's don't have exoskeletons... Ithink. Would it work on them?

>>42098283
If spiders had the instinctive sense to keep out of habited buildings. Like "Oh, there's a human here! We should probably stay away from there territory", then I would have no quals with spiders. If they stay outside then that's fine.

You don't see me wondering around where wolves, bears, lions and other terroritories belonging to killer animals and expect not to be mauled to death.

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>>42098291
I think sometimes people forget that most animals don't have the benefit of collected knowledge like they do.

Spiders don't get to go on the internet and look up what a human is, or anything of the sort. Their parents don't sit them down and tell them about the tales of the giant creatures and the dangers of going into their homes.

They are just born and crawl around looking for things to eat. They have no idea what the hell a house is, or even what an inside/outside is. They don't know what you are. They probably can't even tell you're a life form because you're so massive in comparison.

Trust me, the life of a spider is 1000x more horrifying than any spider can be to you.

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>>42098287
There are always black widows in my dungeon, which is just a little cement room built into a retaining wall by the river in my yard.
They are lucky i hate mosquitoes more than spiders haha.
Actually, living on lakes and rivers the past 7 years has made me pretty non arachnophobic tbh. I acclimated.

>>42098288
Its pretty rear to see a brown recluse, as they are rather, well, reclusive haha.
Must be good luck.

>>42098290
Fiiiiine.
kill it with water :P
All im saying is if i wake up one morning that that thing is scrambling twords me, shots are getting fired.

>>42098291
They dont have endoskeletons ether though, and they are not blobs... Idk. Haha.
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>>42098298
I think it's prolly another type of spider tbh

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>>42098299
Try to snag a picture next time you see one.

Well get to the bottom of this haha.

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>>42098291
>Spider's don't have exoskeletons

Yes they do.

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>>42098302
Will do.

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>>42098295
Some animals are instinctive around danger due to repeative patterns in nature. You'd think Spider's have more instinctive awareness of humans after millenia of being trodden by them.

>>42098298
>>42098303
So they do then? Okay. I figured only beetles and certain flying insects like dragonflies had hard shiny shells.

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It's just a spider. Let her be. She won't hurt you and will actually do a good job of keeping real pests out of the house.

If you're bent and determined to move her around, cover her with a cup and slide a piece of card under it to safely pick her up, then just gently pour her into a better area.

Spiders are our friends and have no desire to harm us.

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>>42098347
When you're afraid of spiders all those truths will fall on deaf ears.

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>>42098237
Seems harmless enough.

Moving my boxes into storage the other day i found hella black widows some a full centimeter across abdomen, nice shiny with red hourglass. I was like, keep up the good work buddy and moved em all right along with their boxes.

Shuda taken a pic. Never saw em this big. Oh well.

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>>42098340
>You'd think Spider's have more instinctive awareness of humans

I think most spiders dont see us spazz out and murder them as most of us dont, and those that have learned to be careful are dead so can't pass on the knowledge to the survivors.

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>>42098340
Well, i know they aren't invertebrates, so if they dont have an endoskeleton, it must be an exoskeleton, right?
At some point one of us will have to look it up, but im just enjoying the mystery for now ^_^
As far as instincts go, i think they just move to where its warm/where they have a chance for food.
They are just a bundle of nerves more or less, so its probably a "moth to flames" situation.
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>>42098363
https://www.kidzone.ws/lw/spiders/facts02.htm

"Spiders do not have a skeleton inside their bodies. They have a hard outer shell called an ‘exoskeleton’. Because it is hard, it can’t grow with the spider. So young spiders need to molt, or shed their exoskeleton."

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>>42098372
Once again i have a theory proven correct by an elementary school level publication haha.

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>>42098347
If spiders are harmless, why is arachnophobia one of the most common phobias that have been around since cavemen times? Why are most humans near-instinctive to attack spiders when spider's can develop the instinct to just keep out of their way?

>>42098353
That be true.

>>42098356
I guess that makes sense. In order for survival mechanics to happen in evolution, survival is needed. Spiders who are killed by humans cannot procreate the survival neccesities for evolution to tell spiders to keep away from humans.

Those that do survive mostly encounter friendly humans, no humans or manage to escape humans with their poisonous bite which only encourage evolution to make them more poisonous.

>>42098363
>>42098372
I forgot about the whole molting thing. It's well creepy. All the more reasons why spiders are scary.

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>>42098363
Did you know they also operate their limbs by a type of hydraulic pressure system? the juices we see when they are crushed is essentially ruptured hydraulic tanks spilling their fluid.

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>>42098386
Spiders are spooky, thats a fact.

>>42098392
I did actually! Insects are cool, they are like little nanobots.

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>>42098386
>If spiders are harmless, why is arachnophobia one of the most common phobias that have been around since cavemen times?

Probably because Spiders make their homes in places that are left unoccupied for long periods of time. This makes them associated with decay and (usually) death. They also more or less defy what humans consider 'normal' and 'natural' by their ability to basically defy gravity and walk on any surface. They trigger an 'uncanny valley' phenomenon in many people because while they understand HOW spiders technically work, they just do things that people can't. They are also surprisingly fast and can sometimes just 'appear' suddenly because you can't always see them coming, which can cause a startled reaction.

While other insects do share this property, the fact that a spider's limbs stick so far out from their body emphasizes their otherworldly appearance way more than say a fly or something.

People's fear of spiders is not rooted in them actually being dangerous, but more with them being a symbol of decay and their overall appearance.


Spiders probably don't see humans the same way.
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>>42098445
I always speculated that the spider fear came from when humans were still in beta, and the spiders around us in the more jungly spots could be dangerous. Like a fear passed through genetics.
But, i like your idea to, especially as a contemporary explanation.
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>>42098448
Ironically logic would dictate that spiders for the most part are harmeless BECAUSE they make their homes in places that have been left unoccupied. They don't actively hunt. They are basically fishermen. They set up little nets and eat whatever happens to land in it.

Because they are generally not actively predatory (There are some species that are, but not many) they rely on their surroundings to be primarily undisturbed so their nets can work. Any place with high traffic of anything other than insects basically fucks up their entire operation.

If a spider is in your house it's probably just lost.
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>>42098386
Because they have too many legs for people to appreciate and because those legs use literal hydraulic pressure to extend, making their locomotion very strange to us.

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>>42098450
I would honestly say there are "a ton" of species of spiders that actively hunt, and dont spin webs for catching prey.

You see web spiders more often, because they have to be out in the open to do what they do, but i would say its probably close to 1:1 hunting vs fishing spiders.

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>>42098445
I figured it's because along time a go our ancestors lived in the trees before coming down to live on the ground and caves and from all our prediators at the time from sabertooth beasts and what-not, spiders could crawl on them and bite then while their guard is down. And I imagine prehistoric spider venom was more toxic back than... well I dunno the spider ratio of how common deadly spiders are internationally from harmless ones.

>>42098454
Yeah Spiders are damn creepy.

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>>42099343
Practically no spiders are deadly to humans: spiders WANT their venom for killing their prey, NOT to inject into large animals (like humans), and even if, say, a black widow or brown recluse bites you, you're extremely unlikely to die from it. If you see a doctor, they'll probably just give you pain relief and maybe antibiotics if you're having a reaction to the bite. There is one spider you don't want to mess with, and it lives in Australia, a country where you should really respect nature anyway.

Spiders do humans far more good than harm in that they eat so many invertebrates that can actually harm humans, e.g. wasps, mosquitoes, bed bugs. It's more likely that we react to spiders because they've historically been on our menu (opportunistic eating is the way of nature).

If you don't want to eat them or live with them, maybe consider not killing them? Releasing them outside can be cathartic even for people who are scared of them, or, if you can put up with some cellar spiders (the spindly ones who tend to stay put in webs), they're one of the many spiders that specialises in eating spiders, so your house spider numbers will plummet on their watch.

(Personally, I prefer house spiders to cellar spiders because they just seem like such goofy idiots, but I tend to move all spiders outside because I worry I'll accidentally hurt them.)

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>>42099475
There are a few spiders out there that can kill a full grown human (Australia's funnel web spiders for example), just perhaps killer spider's arn't as common as they were along time a go.
And I'm talking cavemen times, times where the threat to prehistoric humans back then sabertooth cats, mammoths and other large mammals that make themselves well known in attack and can be killed themselves with team work and co-ordination.
I imagine sabertooth cats would not enter human territory unless it had a chance for a kill and even if it did someone wiull perhaps raise the alarms, scare it off and such.

But a deadly spider, they would creep into a human cave, creep onto a person while they're sleep and then bite them and it be too late.

These days humans find spiders more of a nuisence than a threat but arachnophobia persist throughout our evolution, as if evolution is warning us that spiders are a threat we should not underestimate.

>>42099491
I don't want to know how it makes it's webs.
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>>42099497
Its probably not very stealthy.

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>>42099497
>But a deadly spider, they would creep into a human cave, creep onto a person while they're sleep and then bite them and it be too late.
This sounds like something from a medieval bestiary, where every animal has evolved specifically to mess with humans. (Dolphin fins? Oh, those are to take down boats!)

Invertebrates have very little interest in vertebrates aside from not getting eaten by them. If you're bigger than a rat, you have nothing to fear from invertebrates apart from defensive stings/bites (and parasites, but again, parasites are only really nasty for those rat-sized or smaller). Besides, in the invertebrate world, it's a pretty good achievement to be able to get through the impenetrable armour of a mighty woodlouse, so specialising in taking down large mammals is a far cry away from what any of them are up to.

More likely that arachnophobia is a culturally-caused phobia rather than an instinctive one.

>Bee stings are far more likely to kill people but, thankfully, killing bees is increasingly frowned upon.

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>>42099508
>This sounds like something from a medieval bestiary,
I was on about caveman times. Back when humans were more concerned about survival than why the world wanted to kill them.

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>>42099497
Again, I think it's the fact that spiders are associated with decay and death in human culture.

You find them in places humans don't go because that is where they flourish undisturbed.

Also, the way they kill prey and the way they look is just unnerving to humans. I don't think it has anything to do with how dangerous they actually are and it has everything to do with the fact that they are simply associated to things that humans find scary, like death, decay and the like.

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>>42099520
The way spiders ravel up their prey in silk does somewhat resemble death rituals. And spiders have been a popular symbol for Halloween for years. I guess I do see what you mean, but I also believe we're both correct and that it's a number of points why there is strong fear towards spiders.

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Someone needs to watch that video i posted.

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Fine, dont watch it then.

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>>42099515
No, I understood, but I'm saying that it's very unlikely. You're talking about things spiders don't do, we have no evidence they ever have done anything like that, and it's hard to see how they would benefit.

>Back when humans were more concerned about survival than why the world wanted to kill them.

We've been the best predator for a long time. Apes are scary, and we're the scariest by a long shot. Gnus are more scared of humans than they are of lions.

Meanwhile, humans are very unlikely to have a phobia of any of the few land predators that HAVE historically been a threat to the great apes (e.g. larger big cats).

>>42099520
>You find them in places humans don't go because that is where they flourish undisturbed.
Some spiders' natural habitats ARE human houses, though. They're one creature that can consistently flourish where humans are. Plenty of animals struggle around human areas and aren't associated with phobias.

Again, I think it's a cultural phobia. The notorious mouse/rat phobia appears to have been cultural, too, since it's much less prevalent these days, and it seems like a sister phobia to the spider thing.

(Also hi, how are you? Thank you for supporting kindness to spiders in the thread, it's always nice when it's not just me. Cool to see someone else pointing out the "humans are one of the only animals who have any idea what's going on" side >>42098295 , too.)
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>>42099589
I found this post once that basically shows how horrifying humans can be to other animals because of how they operate.

Because humans have the ability to plan and they have a lot of stamina, a human hunting you is basically like the Terminator. We may not be as fast as a deer or whatever, but imagine this weird upright creature that just... Appears, and you run and you think you've gotten away, so you rest to take a drink and it's just... There. Again. Slowly stalking you. So you run again and again and no matter how fast or far you run it just keeps following you until you can't run anymore, you collapse from exhaustion and it just makes it's way towards you with a giant sharpened stick that seems attached to it's front legs from your animal point of view. And it can throw it at you. It's like having a lion that can literally spit it's teeth at you.

Like, considering the fact that we are the only creature in the world that does what we do to the extent we do, we're basically like the Xenomorph of the animal kingdom.

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>>42099542
>>42099586
>>42099340
That wasn't funny, that was horrifying.
I am extremely tolerant to spiders, and usually get close to admire them. I dont care how THAT thing looks or how woke/humorous that announcer wants to act. If I saw that thing in my room, shits gonna break. Spiders On Drugs

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>>42099601
I found it to be quite hilarious.
He does a whole series like this on all kinds of different animals, i like them because they are funny, but also have legitimate information.

Its a spooky spider yes, but they are actually quite small, just a close up camera. I like spiders though, especially ones on the other side of a computer screen haha.

also, thanks for watching haha
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>>42099589
>Meanwhile, humans are very unlikely to have a phobia of any of the few land predators that HAVE historically been a threat to the great apes (e.g. larger big cats).
So what you're saying you're not afraid of lions or tigers?
If you came home and found a leopard on your sofa you'd be cool with it?
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>>42099604
A phobia is an irrational fear.
Being scared of a tiger in your house would be perfectly rational.

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>>42099605
Of course it's rational. But usually tigers live in the jungles or in zoos.
Spiders however are practically everywhere and creeping in everywhere. Perhaps fearing such elusive creatures may not be as irrational of a phobia.
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>>42099606
Yes, but all lions and tigers can kill you, most spiders cant, which is why fear of spiders is a phobia, and fear of large carnivorous felines is common sense.

If your live in Montana, and you're fearful that a lion might be in your house when you get home, thats a phobia, but if it is there, and your scared thats an appropriate reaction.
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>>42099604
>>42099605
You can have a phobia of a dangerous creature. It's reasonable to be scared when in a threatening situation, but much less so if someone, say, shows you a drawn picture of a tiger. Similarly, you don't need a phobia of dogs to panic about one trying to bite you, but if you have a panic attack at the thought of being in the same house as a dog then it's probably a phobia despite how many people are killed by dogs every year.

Meanwhile, spiders are a harmless creature that you can kill by accident and not even notice. A piece of Lego is more of a threat to your feet.

>>42099601
>>42099340
Oh, ogre-faced spiders are cool! Bogleech covered them in their arachnophe-friendly (i.e. no spider photos) set. Invertebrates have different eyes to vertebrates, so they get their night-sight by regrowing a special light-sensitive membrane every night that gets destroyed by the morning light.
>http://bogleech.com/spiders/spiders10-ogre.html

>>42099593
Absolutely! We are terrifying. We look about twice as big as we are as we stand upright (like bears do when they're trying to look scary), plus, like you say, we're a smart, pack-hunting, endurance hunter. We're also the best long-distance runner on the planet*, so it sucks to be targeted by us even if we're not using long-distance weapons, but we often are since tool use is another thing we excel at.

We also store food and kill for fun, so us having recently eaten doesn't stop us being dangerous, and we're heavy into revenge killing, so it's not safe for predators to even take a weak/injured human. We like to imagine that wild animals just prance about in fields all day, but open spaces only look like joyous, free places to us because we're at the top of the food chain.

* With the weird exception of 1 dog breed: Why Don't Sled Dogs Ever Get Tired?
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>>42099611
I am a decidedly less scary human.

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Old thread is old.

Have some wholesome spider posting.

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>>42098237
My favorite are jumping spiders. They dont wait to ambush prey in their web but actively go hunt.

Think of all the nasty things that suck our blood and carry deadly pathogens, that your "house" spiders mop up for you notice them. Spiders are your friend.

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>>42115323
House spiders think humans are cool! Sometimes they'll jump on your hand if you hold it out for them.

Saw a vid of someone who knew the jumping spiders on their roof garden and would give them lifts to other parts of the roof if they wanted it.

And I try to take care of my window spiders (spids who make their webs on the outside of my windows) because I like the added mosquito/fly prevention.

>>42115275
Aww, that is sweet!

>>42115223
You can try to be, but you're still a member of the species that's struggling not to extinct whales. Large primates are generally scary anyway.

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>>42115332
Yes they have personalities and will interact with you. I used to keep a jumping spider as a pet for a while, had two big batches of little ones.

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>>42115419

I'm probably misinformed, but I thought spiders had like, no real 'higher consciousness' and as such they tend to just live off of natural instincts and don't really have much intellect and or 'free will'?

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>>42115419
Sweet! Any good stories?

>>42115448
Jumping spiders are an exception! Portia spiders in particular have been noted for apparently being able to do problem solving and recollection (they have basic hunting instincts, but seem to be able to improvise and remember alternative tactics for later dates).

Not aware of any other jumping spider species that quite compare to Portia ones, but many of them seem 'curious' about humans (will stop and watch and interact with us), whereas most other invertebrates can't seem to comprehend humans at all.

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>>42115332
Whales aren't spiders.

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We get wolf spiders in our house sometimes. Fucking terrifying. Any bug that I can hear walking across a piece of paper meets the criteria of worth burning down the house for.

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Found another golden orb weaver

Pretty dope

They keep annoying bugs out the house

These spiders are from central and south america

Dunno how they thrive up here

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