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/k/ General

The go to place for the discussion of weapons.

#Cyclic

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>>42051856
Im not against using polymers its just, in my experience, the ones used in 3D printing are not strong enough. At least for an AR lower. They tend to fail at the front take down pin and the throat of where the buffer tube threads. A whole new design for that type of polymer would probably be fine though.
>>42051860
Ill take it! Wait till they find out what a CNC machine is o.O
>>42051868
The real ANTIS are just that. They are going to be anti gun, cover their ears and go "lalalala" forever. Its a fools errand to engage with them, outside public debate. On the other hand, there are people who are smart people, but have been mislead or just never wanted to do the research. I use "world of guns" when teaching them to show them how the parts interact and how simple the machine is, and biggest of all, how they all work pretty much the same. A lot of folks came out of the woodwork to learn after NV and FL in the past year. Once they get a handle on the actual physics and law that governors the situation, that meme there friend on FB shared, USA today, and just about every movie they've ever seen look freaking stupid.
Biggest all around red pill you can drop imo.
>>42051870
Do you mean in a safe, or like, leave them at the range or police station?

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>>42051868
>>42051882
you mean to tell me actual gun owners and people who have a gun hobby know better? you cant be telling me that people who dont know about guns or its laws should be in charge of deciding laws for them? nah, you guys are just gun nuts

obvious sarcasm

>>42051870

>We all don't know where we went wrong.
she took the media pill

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>>42051857
>It freaks the normies more because in the mind of an anti Bubba and Cletus are too stupid to operate a lathe and mill but now here's this printer where you just have to press start and it cranks out a fully-functional baby killer in five seconds flat.
It's funny because people too dumb to operate a lathe and mill can always rub their squishy bits together and get a fully-functional baby in nine months flat. Mention that in any kind of legal context and you're automatically an ebil wayciss nahtzee who wants to murder black people.
But talk about the same thing with guns and suddenly you're a champion of the people who wants to save us all from the tyranny of privately-owned armaments being shoved down our throats.

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>>42051891
Well, clearly people knowledgeable of a subject will have an "educational bias" and can't be trusted. Only people who heard from a friend of a friend about a subject can be trusted to make reasonable, level-headed decisions on the matter, because they have no personal attachments. /s

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>>42051906
>reaching into a box while smiling

what's in the box lyra. No put that down, aaaaa

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>>42051927
that's messed up, boxes are for pony mail

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>>42051934
Nope!...

Its heads
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>>42051947
Ponies. No boxes ever come to me except with ponies inside.

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>>42051273
What state...?

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Tactical M1 Carbine? The Inland M30-P Pistol and Brace
Your thoughts?






>>42052173
RI
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>>42052194
Ah, it sounded similar to something that happened here. I'm not a fan of the tacticool M1

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>>42052201
Where is "here" to you?

I hate giving out my location but i kinda set myself up for it with that post haha
Plus any excuse to play with my new found spoiler ability ^_^
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>>42052194
As an M1C owner I could get into this.

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>>42052207
An inland? Or like an IBM or quality hardware?

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>>42052194

Looks like it weighs more than a regular M1 carbine.

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>>42052225
Looks like chiappa and tapco had a demon love-child and named it bubba.

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>>42052209
The one I have now? Just a new model Springfield same as my Garand.

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>>42052231
You make sound life choices!

The inlands are... Better than the chiappa ones that take Beretta mags anyway.

Also, is it paranoia if i think >>42052173 was Michael Bloomberg trying to figure out where he needs to spend more money and bus more people?
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I'd seen references to this home build elsewhere but never looked for the video. Does anyone here think there would be a profitable market for a brass AR lower similar to the one this guy made? The ascetic reminds me of the Henry rifles.

An AR-10 Made From Bullet Brass. "The Golden Gun". GunCraft101

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>>42052266

Brass is hella more expensive than aluminum and heavier. Plus you can just Cerakote a regular AR to get the same look.

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>>42052279
Given one could pick up the 1700 used cases for next to nothing, the price of the brass is pretty much a non-issue.

The real issues are in if you do or don't have the means to melt and cast the brass blank to machine. Add the up front costs for all the machine tools this guy had and your two pound brass lower is going to be very expensive if all you're going to create is in single digits.

His comments included the fact that the brass lower helped mitigate the recoil of the .308 he was shooting far better than the lighter factory lower he used to build the gun in the first place.

While Cerakote is a valid option, it's not brass. This is something that goes on my wish list.

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>>42052293

If you were going to do such a thing that's how you'd want to do it. You'd need a melting pot and mold and then settle in for a lot of milling. Like, all the milling.
I occasionally amuse myself with projects like that. A lot of times though i get about halfway through, stop for some reason and then put the whole thing off for an indefinite period.

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Just picked up myself a nice Hatfield SAS
I think it might be my new favorite.

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>>42052266
>market
Maybe?
>profitable
Risky business

I could see the appeal as a collector item, kind of like a steam punk AR (Im picturing it with an old Malcolm scope) but I'd probably pause for a second before running to apply for an MFG FFL haha. Maybe make an 80% and see if anyone wants it? Just dont mill out a spot for the fire control group.
>>42052418
Thats so nice! Scattergats are the one true gat haha. There is a Beretta A400 at the LGS calling out to me, and since 7 is an odd number... I def need another shotgun haha. Congrats! Now go bust some clays ^_^

>pic

Friendly reminder to check and rotate your carry ammo once in a while (or to just not buy SIG products) because if I had shot this, could have been a bad day. It wasn't even a round I rack on.

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>>42052418
Das purty

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>>42052430
Well, if you're after another shotgun, I definitely have to recommend it. Was only 200$. Cheap, and it seems to be, despite that, pretty damn solid all around.

Now I want to get a pump, though...

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>>42052466
I had an Escort pump action, thing was solid. Put hundreds of rounds through it and bearly maintained it at all and never gave a single problem.

Turkish shotguns tend to be pretty good quality for the price. And the wood that comes on them is mmmmm nice haha.

My favourite pump is still an old (pre-'06) rem 870. Such smooth, many mod. The one ill never get rid of is a '68 thats soooo butter smooth, just thinking about it feels satifying haha.
The only thing they really need is a Velquartson extractor to run cheap ammo. 870s are junk now. Remington in general is junk now, which is hard to say because they are my favorite mfg next to Beretta.

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this is getting way too silly but i laughed

GUN CONTROL W PIERS AND CENK | FREEDOMTOONS

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>>42053257
all the facts check out.

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>>42053257
I'm gonna get shit for this but I have to post it.

Guns - Cyanide & Happiness Shorts

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>>42053257
Yeah it really feels like that sometimes. That guy is funny, he does good impressions. His Ben Shapiro and Dave Rubin are spot on.
>>42053272
That video made the rounds in the local community a while back, its pretty funny. C&H was pretty great in general. A year back I went through a life issue that put me pretty hard in debt and I had to sell off all my "collectable" firearms to put a dent in it. My friends busting me up by saying "at least I have you - some guns" whenever one got sold helped it not hurt so bad.
-Mk17
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>>42053272
when it was nothing all along and he wasted his time getting guns instead of just using one

he got what he deserved!

>>42053321
i like that he at least tends to source his info too

on the last video he did was pretty good

THE GOOD GUY WITH A GUN: TOTAL MYTH I SWEAR!

>dave rubin

rave dubin

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>>42053451
That's one I haven't seen. People freak out when you bring up that CDC study, because honestly, the figure sounds inflated but even the most conservative estimates on DGU from folks who would rather not admit it, are in the millions.

>weirdos live in florida!

:P

Idk what kind of shooting you are into, but this is a pretty good vid. Just to break up the political monotony.
Becoming a Practical Rifleman

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>>42053479
>That's one I haven't seen. People freak out when you bring up that CDC study, because honestly, the figure sounds inflated but even the most conservative estimates on DGU from folks who would rather not admit it, are in the millions.
hey, it's up to them to believe it or not. fact of the matter is anti-2nd amendment is not a winning issues. its a losing one.

>weirdos live in florida!

>:P
yours truly

>Idk what kind of shooting you are into, but this is a pretty good vid. Just to break up the political monotony.

i like close corters which is good for the modern day world
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>>42053481
>fact of the matter is anti-2nd amendment is not a winning issues. its a losing one.
I agree, the tides of public opinion are shifting as information and education become easier to obtain. The last generation kinda screwed us when they cloistered up.

>i like close corters

Stuff such as Becky Yackley Journey Into Competitive Shooting Intro ?

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>>42053483
>Stuff such as
yus!

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>>42053542
USPSA is something we want to try to bring to clubs im my area. Problem is most clubs are run by really old school guys and move+shoot=no.

A few are cool with it though, so it will spread im sure.

2013 USPSA Production Nationals Michelle Viscusi

Plus its way cheaper than 3gun haha.

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i think owning guns should be a capital offense, but only after the communist revolution

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>>42053566
Well... As long as its AFTER.

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>>42053560
pretty cool stuff!

>>42053566
reminder the majority of gun owners in america are right wing so that commie revolution likely isnt going to happen

also karl marx himself was actually pro-gun
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>>42053578
I know lol. Especially when you consider democrats are just moderate right wing. If anything the only violent struggle will be alt right lynch mobs who will just go around murdering “others” like me if the government doesnt straight up criminalize me

I would own a gun but I know I would impulsively kill myself with it eventually

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Minorities need gun rights most of all, as it is their safety and rights that are most easily threatened.

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>>42053671

Yes, but democrats want them helpless so they'll be dependent upon the state.

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>>42053660
Good choice, get help if you need it.
>>42053671
from what I see minority folks esp immigrants legally practice and understand their 2a rights more than anyone but are in the closet about it hardcore
I wish they wouldnt be so coy and speak up more

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>>42053674
The state in general wants a dependent population, but some of the details and methods of creating that dependency is what is up for debate.

>>42053675
Part of the deal may well be the fear of appearing to be a threat to majority society for exercising such rights, which leads to seeking a means of self-defense while also appearing to be mostly harmless.

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>>42053677
The people I talk too seem more concerned about what other folks in their minority community will think rather than what the majority will. Even still any given saturday at the range is a pretty decent spectrum of gender race creed and colour. Its up to the firearms community at large to make them feel welcome. Im trying to get out of work to volunteer at the local sportmans club LGBT shoot coming up

Im just using spoilers for consistency at this point ^_^
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>>42053684
Love it.

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>>42053677
This. Especially after multiple incidences of legal concealed carry owners being shot by police.

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i dont get why the AK-63D is almost always in stock most of the time?

their cheap too (for an AK pattern rifle that is)

they're actually VERY well built guns with the original parts and furniture (excluding the obvious 922(r) compliance US parts required) it's pretty much all original

is it because it doesnt have a chrome-lined barrel?

century arms? because arsenals sell like hot cakes

what gives?
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>>42054076
>Disturbing incidents like this have cropped up around the country. A few days before Bradley's heart-pounding confrontation, a man posing as a fake CPS worker entered a Texas home threatening to kill the homeowner and take his three children. That’s when the dad pulled out his gun and fired four rounds into the ground, and the suspect ran.

Yeah... I'd let him run too, but only after I'd claimed his eyes and balls. I'd put them in a jar on the mantelpiece.

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>>42054077
>is it because it doesn't have a chrome-lined barrel?

Could be.

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>>42054078
Even in California it's a borderline subject as to whether the fear is justified to use force against a fleeing attacker when it's likely to return later.

I beat 4 guys off me once and didn't pursue them but when I crawled into a nearby chicken place and sat under the counter to inventory my parts (turns out all I had was 2 shiners), I was surprised they didn't return with gun(s) to finish their robbery attempt. When it seemed like they weren't regrouping, I went home.

If I had a child at home and someone attempted to kidnap by force of fake color of law, I'd never, ever feel safe leaving my child at home after that. I would seriously want to fatally wound that fleeing felon to protect my children in the future, and I'd probably go away for that. It would depend on the jury, a steep uphill battle.

Fortunately I don't have kids.

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>>42054077
AK-63D

wow purty too. I could see making one mine someday, when I had the ability to keep it secure.

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>>42054079
i dont see that as deal breaker these days, personally

>>42054081
yeah, they're cool, really.

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>>42054080

Just remember these three simple steps: Shoot, shovel and shut-up.

>>42054082

Yeah, but people want it because "real" AK's have it.

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>>42054082
how bout ammo, is that standard ak stuff? what about some comments here recently about ak ammo being pricey now?



>>42054083
I'm reeeel good at digging. It's the shutting up part I have trouble with. But I'm willing to learn.

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>>42054083
true

>>42054084
meh, from what i remember 7.62x39 isn't that pricey these days are very much available almost everywhere

if you're looking for 5.45x39 which is AK-74 ammo then you'll have harder time finding it

i think price of it these days still remain to be the same even for that

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>century arms
To be avoided. So many broken bolts on the WASRs and ras47s. C93V2s iv seen with milling burrs that the bolt hangs up on.

NPAPs are okay. I honestly havent handled a AK-63D, and guns from Hungary are usually okay, but the track record of century is pretty bad.

I would say save for a arsenal, saiga, or kolishUSA.

The only AK i want is an AWB Maddi, they speak to me haha.

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>>42054088
yeah, thats been a top issue with them

then again everyone keeps telling me they upped their game on quality control

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>>42054089
>upped their game on quality control
Sure, so didnt Taurus... Now only 6/10 guns are defective rather than 8 haha.
>century
As a range toy sure, as MY rifle, no way. Not sure which of those you are looking for though tbh.

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>>42054090
the gun i always wanted is a polish underfolder

only reason why is because it looks the closet to the original soviet AKMS

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>>42054089

Though... At the same time a century is better than no rifle at all. I can get pretty snobby with it haha. NPAP i can def reccomend and the c93 isnt sooo bad.

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>>42054088
I was gonna say I haven't had problems with mine until you mentioned NPAPs

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>>42054092
yeah, the only top guns i want is a AK variant and a STG 44
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>>42054093
Yeah its a surprisingly solid little guy. Havent seen anyone have trouble. Wood is a little bleh though haha.

>>42054094
I forget who but someone was suppose to be making a .223 stg replica.
>top guns
Danger zone!
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>>42054095
I just took the furniture off mine and put a stain on it

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>>42054095
also who can forget the glorious FN FAL

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Meanwhile, in Bizzaro timeline!

https://thefederalist.com/2018/07/24/liberal-ninth-circuit-says-open-carrying-gun-constitutional-right/

Someone pinch me! The 'No-Guns' Ninth Circuit Court did a 180 on open carry.

I need a drink. Anyone here care to join me in a toast?

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>>42054104
there's no way this is real

since when did the 9th circuit court gain proper literacy?

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>>42054105
Here's the ruling. It's real!!!

Excuse me while I have a barley wine to celebrate this event.

http://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2018/07/24/12-17808.pdf

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>>42054107
well color me surprised then

good on them for understanding what "the right to keep and bear arms" means

it's just silly to me they of all people understand the fucking 2nd amendment is as straight forward as you can get
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>>42054105

They only made that ruling as damage control cuz they know what would happen if it went to the supreme court.
Still good for us of course. But not as good as it could be.

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>>42054110
i wont be happy until the damn thing is read at face value which as it should be

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>>42054110
I'm just tickled with the thought that Hawaiian LEOs will have to abide by this ruling for now. There's plenty of rural land on the islands where this is going to be very appreciated.

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>>42054097
Nice dude! Bet thats going to come out good, i want pics when its done :D
>>42054098
I use to want a FAL more than anything. Someday maybe, its not a very practical rifle. I want a wood and steel Israeli FNH not like a DSA though. Also... FAL pistol would be a fun giggle gun haha.
>>42054110
This exactly. Its the same reason they struck down a mag capacity law recently, its not that they dont want to let it through, its that the law wasnt written in a back handed enough way. I think its just more evidence that SCOTUS is just biding time and stacking cases to sweep them all at once. Activist judges are just trying to do damage control.
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Regardless of what happens, the way I see things going if it continues in the direction its been going, and the SC doesn't come to the rescue, is that more people will be carrying in every state, with 10 round mags. Its a really weird thing.
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>>42054104
Hooray

>>42054107
Thats a damn good read


Holy fuck this means in CA right now i can open carry? Wtf, in my lifetime and before armageddon? I dunt beleeves it but omigosh wowsie wow wow, wow

That's the power of constitutional right to self-litigate. Thank you, George K. Young, in pro se fuck lawyers.

{1 Hour} {HD} Fluttershy's Yay Song (Avast Fluttershy's @ss)
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>>42054132
>Regardless of what happens, the way I see things going if it continues in the direction its been going, and the SC doesn't come to the rescue, is that more people will be carrying in every state, with 10 round mags. Its a really weird thing.
the thing that confuses me the most is where does politicians or even SCOTUS for matter get the idea that the 2nd amendment is okay to these types of limitations like this? to say you can only have this or that? no assault weapons

where does it state in the 2nd amendment that these limitations are okay?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/infringement

...like what?

same thing with the 4th amendment regarding stop and frisk

that's been ruled as constitutional but is it really? i have a hard time believing that the framers would think this is okay. if they did then they wouldnt have wrote that amendment

it's like rights are supposed to be an absolute. it's not suppose to be "well this is okay to do because we think that's the right thing to do so yeah. btw lets just set some criteria on what counts as X and Y okay?"

thats why our countries government is out of control because they basically create unconstitutional laws and pat themselves on the back for "helping" our republic. they know it's wrong but since it's for the greater "good" then fuck liberty, right?
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>>42054283
I agree Mikie but i'll make those 10 rounds work for me. It's not like it takes more than a second to pop in a second clip and beloved Garand's adequate on the battlefield with only 8 rounds per clip anyway, with Chewbacca-style shoulder bandolier standard issue.

As to stop and frisk, gimme a fuckin break that's so fuckin racist you gotta be worse than Nazi trash to think that shits constitutional. Further Terry stops put cops lives in danger anyway cuz any real criminals gonna blow that cop away for making a grab anyway. Boo, stop n frisks.

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>>42054284
>I agree Mikie but i'll make those 10 rounds work for me. It's not like it takes more than a second to pop in a second clip
that's true magazine rotation doesnt take long


>As to stop and frisk, gimme a fuckin break that's so fuckin racist you gotta be worse than Nazi trash to think that shits constitutional.

not can it be considered racist it's just not humane and a huge violation to human rights

it pretty much labels you as a criminal for basically walking around

but in todays america its "guilty until proven innocent".

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>>42054288
But how else are they supposed to plant evidence without it showing up on body cam footage?

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>>42054290
thats exactly what should be prevented

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>>42054293
One thing at a time.

With the new High court you might come to love the 9nth circuit as our last best hope

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>>42054295
im not too hopeful but id like to say that day

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Got a new stabby-stab. Vaguely disappointed it's made in Taiwan instead of Olean NY, but is at least heftier than I expected.

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>>42054458
I've been meaning to ask someone who owns that design. Is there any specific advantage to the angle? I'm not seeing any but that's just my bias to my own selections.

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>>42054458
Ha! bringing a knife to a gun thread.

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>>42054460

Ya, it makes it more comfortable to carry with the high-ride sheath, makes for a smoother quick-draw which is the primary purpose of the design and makes it easy to give point with a firm, natural grip.

The primary role of a combat knife is for immediate use at close-quarters which necessitates a one-handed quick draw. Something a lot of folders and large fixed-blades rather suck at.
Also unlike a lot of tacticool knives in a similar size catagory the TDI's grip and blade design aren't so specilized as to make it impractical for common cutting tasks. The blade is actually rather similar to the smaller Becker and ESEE knives.

Ka-Bar TDI Knife Demo by John Benner of Tactical Defense Institute

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>>42054461

I also got another 80% lower. This one from righttobear.com. Vaguely dissapointed with it though cuz I got one with Safe-Fire-Burst safety markings for my A4-gery but the markings don't quite look like those on an M16A4. Probably gonna mill it tomorrow night.

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>>42054283
>where does politicians or even SCOTUS for matter get the idea that the 2nd amendment is okay to these types of limitations like this?

Well, the way its set up is that the judicial branch gets final say on that sort of thing. Politicians make radically unconstitutional laws all the time because of lack of education, but if no one challenges it then there is no reason for it to be stricken down.

This is why "activist judges" are a problem, they interrupt laws based on how they wish it was, rather than looking at the history and case law. If they wouldnt be able to make a call that they might not personally agree with, then they are a bad judge.

But just like the old joke,
>what do you call someone that had a 65% average grade in medical school... You call them Doctor.
these people are still judges and have the power to find a law constitutional if they want to.

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>>42054464
Thanks for the feedback. Reason I asked was when I was a teen, a member of my family gave me a crappy kukri with a blade that began to rust immediately and would not hold an edge. This specific blade was a wall hanger.

https://chinesemartialstudies.com/2015/01/26/through-a-lens-darkly-28-three-visions-of-the-kukri/

After watching that linked video, I can see where the new take on the kukri design could have merit in the field in the right hand.

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>>42054496
yeah, it sucks that peoples liberty is on the line because of people like that

it's just not right...

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>>42054524
Well I suppose thats why a good amount of people are starting to choose not to listen to them.
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>>42054521

The difference is the TDI's curve is in the handle whereas the Kukri's is in the blade. That might seem like irrelevent nitpick but it's actually rather important the TDI is primarily meant for stabbing, and the curved handle makes it safe to do so without the risk of your hand sliding up onto the blade. The Kukri is primarily a chopping blade and though you can stab with them it's not usually reccomended since traditional kukris don't have handguards.

Also there's roughly three different styles of Kukri, a utility style with a short broad blade for chopping brush, a martial style with a longer, narrower sword-like blade and the military style which splits the difference between them. The military style is probably the most common outside Nepal.

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This must be our lucky week.

A three judge panel from the 9th Circuit Court just addressed a case involving the state of California and the right of the state to demand surrender of non-compliant high capacity magazines.

While far from a final resolution and a very real chance of appeal by California, for the moment, gun owners in CA do not have to surrender high cap magazines.

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20180720/federal-appellate-court-upholds-decision-to-block-california-s-magazine-surrender-requirement

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>>42054535
So this means we can still have friends in Nevada buy them for us and continue to subvert the 10 round limit?

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>>42054544
Maybe not. This is more for those who buried their formerly legal magazines once the CA law passed. Out-of-state straw purchases could still be against the law. And keep in mind this could all go boom if the full 9th Court finds that states do have a right to limit magazine capacity in a later appeal. We all know that CA won't let go of this until the appeals process has run its course.

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>>42054544
Right, like >>42054548 said this is basicly saying that they blocked a law that prohibits "pre ban" mags. So even if this law is stricken down, its not like you will be able to possess a new 30 round mag, just means you can keep your mag that you got in 1993 without fear of being imprisoned or shot.

So not to be a negative Nancy but not really a "win" but rather a "we saved this slice!" Haha. Still good though.

Im am interested in what that would mean for the bans that included no grandfather though. If it is stricken down.
-Mk17 (phone died and forum data reset)
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So I guess the latest hippy-communist conspiracy theory is that the California fires are being caused by direct energy weapons for reasons.

Much as I enjoy the mental image of a YAL-1 lasering San Diego like in the Salvation Wars it seems kinda wasteful when a few roman candles can have the same effect.

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>>42054899
>direct energy weapons
what did they mean by this?

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>>42054900

It's a generic term for laser and microwave-type weapons. As opposed to kinetic energy weapons like firearms.
I guess 5G is supposed to be a secret squirrel direct energy weapon too. Secretly meant to microwave the brains of crazy youtube conspiracy theorists or something.
Directed Energy Weapons (DEWs) A Global Weather Warfare News Bulletin

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>>42054901
>>42054902
dohohohohohohohohoho

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Also just got a text iv been waiting for.

Local evil biggoted gun club is sponsoring a shoot for LGBT folks, for an event this size i was going to call and offer to help RSOing and organizing, but i guess they called first haha.
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>>42054911
>You wanna do the LGBT shoot this Saturday?
>Carlos called for help
This text initially makes it look like you guys are organizing a hate crime.

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>>42054917
Hahaha. Why is everything I say/do so easily taken out of context?

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>>42054924
Because "carlos" has become synonymous with raping and murdering in the new Trump vocabulary?

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>>42054901
Btw i ordered "fallout" from the library and it came in over the week. I had guests so I haven't had time to read it yet but looks pretty interesting. I just remembered its still in my car haha.

>>42054950
Doubt it.

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>>42055225
Do it! Black powder and muzzle loading is a great hobby!

Its fun, affordable, and historical. Not to mention some of the most beautiful wood n' steel there is.

I missed out on a muzzle loading double barrel scatter gat recently and I'm still kicking myself.

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>>42054972

Excellent...

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so i spent hours trying to see if the 2nd amendment is up for regulation

theres literally nothing that says it is

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>>42055365
>so i spent hours trying to see if the 2nd amendment is up for regulation

Elaborate! You vile fiend.

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>>42055365
Seriously though, im curious what you mean. Up for regulation in general? The piles of cases waiting for the SCOTUS? or is something im not aware of going down?

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>>42055367
>>42055371
I got bored and looked up historical context

There's nothing that grants anyone to pass laws to regulate it.

It's all just feelings

Same goes for the 1st amendment

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Think of it this way. You see a sign that says "no smoking".

Clearly you're not allowed to smoke there obviously

But then some judge says it's okay to smoke there if it's menthol cigarettes and only on Thursdays

It's that fucking retarded. WHERE DOES IT SAY THAT?

It's like you have an instruction manual, right?

It's purpose is to tell you how to do your task and then some group of idiots say "even though it tells you to put a nail in that area clearly you should put it somewhere completely out of that area because we feel that way."
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>>42055383
What if the local legislature modifies the law that says no smoking to be ok for menthol on thursday tho

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>>42055400
they cant because it specifically says "no smoking"

it's that simple

but that's the difference with simple laws and amendments

you cant modify amendments unless you actually amend the thing

which why people need to back off of our rights

wanna change it? amend it then
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>>42055414
>amend it then
The beauty of the amendment process makes changing one next to impossible without massive public support and the willingness to go though years of the process as it goes state to state. The Equal Rights Amendment is a textbook case of what can and did go wrong despite more than sufficient support for the idea.

One would think the democrats would be demanding a change to the Electoral College. Same problem. Not enough normie support to start or run out the process required to do the job.

tl:dr Don't bother demanding a change to the Constitution.

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>>42055419
exactly

the founders did that on purpose to make it harder for people take away rights

thats why constitutional orginalists are correct

and people who it's a living document is also correct

it's called amending it

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>>42055414
Sorry mikies.

First, the legislatures can make all the law they want to (statute) in contradiction to the Constitution and the executive can too (regulation) and law is law until overturned by judicial review. The judges can make law too, it's called "case law" and it's even more binding than statute or regulation when it comes right down to it.

Second, the Constitution is not as clear or complete as you think it is. Examples are constitutionality of Jim Crow law under Plessy v Fergussen "separate but equal" that held for some 80 years before being overturned by a later Court in Brown v Board of Education "separate is not equal". No statute or regulation made this widely-sweeping change, the high court did by re-interpreting the same words.

The Constitution is packed with ambiguity and the Framers made it so not because they were poor lawmakers or to make it malleable (as we've been told) but so they could spin those same words differently to different colonial leaders to gain ratification in the first place.

Lastly it's fun to note that the judicial review process and the structure of the judiciary itself arent even defined by the constitution but were laid down by the first high court. A new court with the right will could even redefine the judicial review process itself and theoretically remove accessibility to attacking unconstitutional law entirely.

Some big-picture things to think about, when pondering the constitutionality of one narrow issue like gun rights.

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>>42055426
>First, the legislatures can make all the law they want to (statute) in contradiction to the Constitution and the executive can too (regulation) and law is law until overturned by judicial review. The judges can make law too, it's called "case law" and it's even more binding than statute or regulation when it comes right down to it.
yes, you're right and they should step down after attempting to pass unconstitutional laws

>Second, the Constitution is not as clear or complete as you think it is.

the 2nd amendment is as clear as day

if they can't understand that then they should seriously work on their reading comprehension and study historical context

also no, only legislative branch can only make laws

alot of our rights are 100% straight-forward but more often times than not people try to misinterpret them to the best of their ability

if people are going to water down rights due to some "technical" criteria then what good are rights then?

i go back to my "WHERE DOES IT SAY YOU CAN DO THAT?".

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>>42055430
oh my.

>people should step down for making unconstitutional laws

I'll quote you on that one: "where does it say that"
I agree, but that's never going to have any traction, perhaps a direct-democracy initiative should be done by someone to create such a law? But by who...

>alas only legislative branch can make laws

um...no....that's just what they teach us in public education, absolutely wrong. See the CFR:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Federal_Regulations
also see case law. Row v Wade? Where does such law come from? The high court, and where does it say you can do that? nowhere except in case law

Constitution provides language that laws are to be constitutional, yes, but no where does it provide any authority for the actual judicial review itself. I challenge you to point to where the Constitution specifically says you can review a law for constitutionality.

That came directly from the first High Court itself:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marbury_v._Madison


I applaud and agree with you on the Second Amendment, Mikie. But you are dead wrong about how complete or clear the Constitution is to just about everything most in particular our rights.

You do know they tried very hard not to supply any Bill of Rights at all? They almost didn't. In the Articles, there are only 2 actual rights: the right to habeas corpus (not be jailed without de process) and the right to declare bankruptcy. These are spelled out because the colonists were sick and tired of being kidnapped in the night, and being sent to debtor's labor camps.

>people who misinterpret the law

Oh you mean Justices of the High Court. Maybe, that happens because it's folks like the orange man who have always placed crooks on the High Court, for example Gorsuch. Goes on and on about "not making law" as though that isn't the high court's job (it is, else there would be no judicial review process for constitutionality at all) and then he does exactly that, make new law by blatantly committing the most egregious sophistry imaginable to "misinterpret" (more like downright lying) what the words say.

No, none of our rights are clearly stated.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
If the Framers wanted this shit to be crystal clear, they wouldn't have used a goddamned fucking comma in between completely separate sentences. That "militia" is so linguistically indistinct from "right to bear" is a huge problem, in spite of how much reading on the wording style of the time it's clear as mud whether it's militias or people they mean (the intent writings of the time confirm it's suppose to be people, yes but the words of the second amendment are the worst possible English as far as ambiguity) and further, just saying "arms" is even worse. It's amazing to me that no one has tried to ban guns saying that "arms" is satisfied by crossbows or some shit. However, "arms" needs to be combined with other wording to be clear that the Framers intended "arms" to mean "arms sufficient to defend against the best the government might abuse against citizens" so, my conclusion stands that the wording of the Constitution including the Second Amendment is absolute trash that would get an F for ambiguity in any basic essay-writing class.



It's clear this ambiguity was not because they were piss-poor writers. They were top-notch writers and they knew better. This was done on purpose, so they could spin it any way they wanted to get slave-states who were terrified of rights and some non-slave states who were afraid of the "mob" of their free citizens, to ratify the Constitution in the first place. See Bacon's Rebellion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacon%27s_Rebellion


The Framer's knew their Constitution was a piece of shit full of holes, but it was the best they could put past the kind of people they needed to sign off on it, to make it actually become real. It's not clear, not at all, and it was supposed to be unclear. If it was clear, it never would have been ratified. That's because things having gotten worse is another modern lie: things were always like they are today. Nothing has changed. This starry-eyed rose-colored imagining that things were better then is just bread and circuses.
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>>42055432
okay, so if other branches are allowed to pass laws then that is 100% unconstitutional and completely defeats the purpose of balances of powers. which is something that is simply even taught in grade school

thanks for letting me know that government is a monolith that does pretty much whatever it wants when it wants

>"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

>If the Framers wanted this shit to be crystal clear, they wouldn't have used a goddamned fucking comma in between completely separate sentences. That "militia" is so linguistically indistinct from "right to bear" is a huge problem, in spite of how much reading on the wording style of the time it's clear as mud whether it's militias or people they mean (the intent writings of the time confirm it's suppose to be people, yes but the words of the second amendment are the worst possible English as far as ambiguity) and further, just saying "arms" is even worse. It's amazing to me that no one has tried to ban guns saying that "arms" is satisfied by crossbows or some shit. However, "arms" needs to be combined with other wording to be clear that the Framers intended "arms" to mean "arms sufficient to defend against the best the government might abuse against citizens" so, my conclusion stands that the wording of the Constitution including the Second Amendment is absolute trash that would get an F for ambiguity in any basic essay-writing class.
this is because the english language back then was incredibly different

either way it says what it is

as matter of fact theres an english expert who agrees with me

http://www.constitution.org/2ll/schol/2amd_grammar.htm
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>>42055433
without checking, I think there is a provision for executive orders in there somewhere (hmm cud be rong) but that the Judiciary was supposed to exist and do something was also provided for, just not exactly How.

Interpreting that any making of law from the executive or judicial branches would be unconstitutional is both over-simplistic and if applied, there would be absolutely zero way to actually us the Constitution to run a country anyway.


There is a lot of experts that say the writing was different back then, yes, and experts that say what that one does. However, it's also clear that regardless of any changing nuances, that comma-separated phrase is ambiguous even under the standards of language at the time, and there are experts who will insist the interpretation is that arms are for military only.

I wonder, if you go back and read the entire Bill of Rights as though it was something you didn't already know anything about, Mikie, if you would see how the language is deliberately ambiguous throughout. Give it a try, because it is.

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>>42055434
see how it's suppose to work according to the constitution is that congress is suppose to pass laws

the justice is suppose to check if that law is constitutional or not and president can choose to pocket the law, veto or approve of it

very specific things but i guess when it comes to "case law" it's fuck it we can do whatever we want

>if you would see how the language is deliberately ambiguous throughout. Give it a try, because it is.

i have, and the constitution was written that way on purpose

the bill of rights on the hand are very specific rights

like with the 2nd amendment its quite simple

>A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state

okay, this part talks about a well organized and disciplined militia. we are in the militia right now the moment we turn 17 years old anyway
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/246
>the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
this part is so painfully obvious i shouldnt have to say anything

as for the other amendments arent as straight forward but they still get the point across if you just read it.

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now make no mistake im not trying to be an anyway rude (and i hope i dont come of that way) but reading it any other way just doesnt make any sense

>pic related


that and it's been understood this way all throughout americas lifetime

unfortunately FDR's bad judges put a dent in that

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>>42055439
I think it's time to lighten up in here a bit

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>>42055442
yeah for the best

have an image of this type-56

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>>42055442
This should lighten the mood a bit.

Activates your almonds.

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>>42055536
Well they changed "gender" to "sex" on the 4473 to appease a few months back.

They have to draw the line somewhere if they want too conduct an accurate background check.

Went through this with Hispanics already, hence the "Hispanic or Latino" "not Hispanic or Latino" question haha.
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>>42055536
man, i wish gun control advocates would actually see what a 4473 looks like

it's not short

like that time when obama said it's easier to buy a gun than get a book at a library

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>>42055559
The best it's when you show them, and they realize they wouldn't pass.

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>>42055560
lol i remember when there was a guy who tried to buy a gun and thought no background check was required

he was in for a big surprise when he found there actually IS a background check AND he failed

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>>42055561
Wasn't that some msnbc reporter, and it turned out he had domestic abuse charges?

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>>42055562
if i remember right, yeah lol

thats the one

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>>42055563
Seems like people who's job it is to research things do a pretty bad job of it.
Lying on that form is a felony...

He was only to be out done by the Congress lady who created another 10 year / $250k felony by cutting the barrel of an AR15 in the name of virtue signaling haha.

Cops, lawmakers, and journalists... All the least likely people to actually know the law. Funny that.
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>>42055565
yep, that's peak journalism for you

it's actually really easy to learn about form 4473

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>>42055568
Yeah I mean a quick internet search could tell you everything you need to know... And if your to lazy for that, more than half that form is dedicated to explaining the form haha.

And when you sign it, your agreeing that (among other things...) You read and understand all of it.

(Btw im digging the EQG pics :P)
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>>42055569
even the former president obama wasnt aware of that form

>(Btw im digging the EQG pics :P)

i had these for a while

well since the premiere of it

i just dont use them as often

i love my waifu in either pony or human
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>>42055570
Sunset and starlight were the only 2 EQG models I liked right out of the box. I had to warm up to the rest.

Even trixie i wasn't a fan of at first, to the surprise of my friends. Looked like Skeeter Valentines long lost sister... :P

Lyra was okay, but I was pretty disappointed she wasn't in the first movie since 80% off her fanon revolved around her trying to prove a human world existed. I'm not all about fan service, but that seemed like a no brainer haha.

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>>42055574
it seems it takes the writers a while to catch up on that stuff

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>>42055576
Yeah. It's just lucky the fan artists got my back haha.

>>42055579
If the fire control group isn't milled its not a firearm. Unless you live in Cali.

Edit: for those in cali ...
https://www.80percentarms.com/products/0-billet-ar-15-lower-receiver
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>>42055580
yeah, it's just something that requires a trigger group

i still think it's dumb that a background check is required for a receiver because it's just a hunk of material

but meh whatever

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>>42055581
>yeah, it's just something that requires a trigger group
Well that and a dremmel tool.

>i still think it's dumb that a background check is required for a receiver because it's just a hunk of material

Well... It's whatever the serialized part is. The trigger groups on the Beretta apx and sig 320 are the "firearm" in those cases, and the frames are "parts".

The ruger MKs it's the upper and barrel assembly that is serialized.

So it's not always the frame / receiver.
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>>42055587
yeah, i know

it's just odd to me is all

seems pointless

while AR-15's arent the hardest thing to build

AK's are actually a decent challenge that requires a lot of tools

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>>42055559
>man, i wish gun control advocates would actually see what a 4473 looks like

Eup. Fun fact about the form. Most fun stores around here with FFL services have computerized their background check form. Along with the shift to computerized forms, they have a fun little space where, if you have an up to date CCW permit, you just enter that permit number and skip 90% of the grinding details.

Our Cabela's has 8 terminals for fast service.

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>>42055596
>Our Cabela's has 8 terminals for fast service.

I know these booths exist but it seems odd to me because it's the ffl's responsibility to observe the filling out of the form and to confirm ID numbers and addresses. Seems like straw heaven and idk how they get away with it.

>>42055595
Instead of going point by point, I'm just going too issue a blanket disagree :P
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>>42055596
the form is mostly used in case if you're firearm gets stolen or if someone does something stupid with it and police need info on it

surprised that works

>>42055601
yeah, yeah.

i guess when 3D printing becomes a thing you can just print a full receiver legally

well... legally for now...

ive seen videos of people melting soda cans and making them into receivers
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>>42055602
>AK's are actually a decent challenge that requires a lot of tools

https://www.northeastshooters.com/xen/threads/diy-shovel-ak-photo-tsunami-warning.179192/

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>>42055604
ah, such is a classic

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>>42055605
There is no such thing as a complicated firearm design... At least not a successful one. It's why aks can be tapped together in a hut in east bum fuck Africa and the going rate for a full auto on the world market is 5 USD.

Should be happy the bolt, barrel and chamber can be bought as parts because that's what takes real skill to make.

Which is why i don't get
>when 3D printing becomes a thing
Because it already requires hardly anything to make a receiver.

I mean i get why it's a thing on the news... It's the new boogie man to scare Soccer moms who don't know better, but i don't understand the hype in the "knowledgeable" firearms community.
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>>42055607
>but i don't understand the hype in the "knowledgeable" firearms community.
that is because of the future of what it can do

right now it could at most shoot like one round

but in the future it could do more

it's a matter of principle to them in the spirit of the 2nd amendment because judges keep doing whatever they can do to stop it

which is funny because those blueprints for 3D guns have out for a long time now and they're basically trying to close the door on the horse that bolted a long time ago

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>>42055609
>that is because of the future of what it can do
Alright that's a good point and i get it.

So you can make the receiver, that you could already make pretty easily, but without hands on skill, i guess that could be a benefit to some. But it will be the same problem... Still can't print a rifled barrel.

>judges keep doing whatever they can do to stop it

Wasn't it judges that just ruled it legal under the 1st amendment?

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>>42055612
yeah there was

but right now there is federal judges who put a "temporary stop" to it until they figure out what to do

https://www.newsweek.com/3d-printed-gun-blueprints-models-defense-distributed-lawsuit-1051138
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>>42055613
>Once again, my office had to hold this administration accountable to the rule of law

>These ghost guns


Hahaha to much. Remember those uninformed silicone moms i mentioned? It's a shame they have power. Reason why so many lives were ruined over spooky marijuana...

I didn't even know this had happened, thanks for the info.

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>>42055619
lol no problem

this is exactly why i am so worrisome over government power

i think i have a right to be!

they're clueless

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>>42055621
>this is exactly why i am so worrisome over government power

>i think i have a right to be!


Yeah, you do, and you should.

This is actually something i have written down for next years state house testimony... That we watched so many lives be ruined over misinformed drug policies, we should stop and think before we make the same mistakes again over firearms.

Also that there are policies that can be made that would actually help, but they are so fixated on banning shit and putting people in cages, that they don't have time to listen to reasonable ideas.

Also that because all their solutions involve dragging people away to put them in cages, and killing them if they resist, that THEY are the actual insanely violent people.

ALSO that if they keep outing themselves as misinformed no nothings, people are going to stop listening.

All this provided i don't get suicided in the mean time haha

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>>42055627
also keep in mind were living in a era where cities are banning straws

FUCKING STRAWS

they claim people are using 500 million straws a day

wanna know how they got that number? from a kid who did a phone survey from straw companies for his school project

the number isn't close to being correct

people are making polices because it makes them feel good and pretty much has zero effect and improves pretty much nothing

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>>42055629
>people are making polices because it makes them feel good and pretty much has zero effect and improves pretty much nothing

These were pretty bold moves in the UK and EU cotton, let's see how it plays out for them...

Also it has a major effect on the kids who grow up without a mother because she didn't realise her magazine she's had for 15 years is now a life in prison offence.

Or that empty shell casing that rolled under the seat of her car before going to a state where you need a licence to possess "components" of ammunition.
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>>42055637
it's insane

it's just basically like them giving themselves a pat on the back to feel good

meanwhile people can be jailed for having STRAWS

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>>42055638
I would honestly be mortified if straw legislation carried a prison sentence haha.

Ether way i doubt it will have any impact as like 90% of plastic pollution comes from India and China dumping all their trash in rivers that lead to the Pacific.
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>>42055644
exactly! it's not even us who are the major polluters

they only do that to virtue signal and feel good about themselves

it's about the dumbest thing i ever seen

like what, did they suddenly forgot theres other forms of plastic that gets disposed?

JEEZ-US FRIG
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>>42055646
If some one goes to jail over straw possession well...

I'll rattle can trixies cutiemark on all my mags so you can identify me durring the conflict haha.

Actually, that's not a bad idea ether way :D

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>>42055649
well just have to see what happens i guess

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>>42055650
>>42055649

Sounds like a strawman argument

Maybe they're banned because they have a potential to be made into pea-shooters

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>>42055667
>Sounds like a strawman argument

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>>42055667
>>42055671
guess this was the straw that broke these peoples backs

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>the city has made breaking the plastic straw ban as an administrative infraction, meaning those caught disobeying it a second time risk a maximum fine of $1,000 and up to six months in jail.

https://www.newsweek.com/plastic-straw-ban-you-can-be-sent-jail-breaking-new-law-california-city-1043944

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>>42055688
Presumably because in CA, exposure to jail time of more than 6 months entitles a defendant to public defender


Speaking of vague constitutional wording is it outrageous or what that right to counsel does not apply in CA for misdemeanors of 6 months or less

Further even if you make income well below the basic cost of living you can still be denied the public defender as making to much money, and if you get a court-appointed atty they wont be paid enuf money to make probable cause or discovery motions or witness fees, only enuf to plea bargain.

Due process my ass.

Oh and further if you do try to sue city over the straw issue, even though threatened penalty of jailtime makes it "quasi-criminal" entitling you to constitutional due process rights, the city/defendant will move to dismiss based on lack of standing due to lack of exposure to harm and about half the time, depending on judge, they'll prevail.

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can someone identify this gun for me pls

EDIT: wait sorry I'm a dumbass it literally says MP44 on it lmao
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>>42055757

Is clearly a Famas.

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>>42055706
feeling libertarian or classical liberal, yet?

>>42055757
well STG44 but yeah

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>>42055769
I dont understand any political labels but i've been a rights guy from the beginning.

Combined with false history i believed, standing up for my rights cost me everything. Now fighting for rights with slightly more knowledge is all i have.

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So i know i said "cutie mark" here >>42055800 but then i saw
>pic
And well... Decided to go in a different direction haha.

Not half bad for a 10 min after work job to impress strangers on the internet, ill end up stripping it and redoing the stencil. Thinner is better i learned.

Mostly i just wanted to do something art and gun related haha.
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>>42055798
be for freedom

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>>42055798
Be... Faroni

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>>42055801
I thot i was the only one to notice this

>>42055804
Not anymore, diabetic.

>>42055803
If there was a label for that, it'd get subverted to mean nazi or something.

Im both for rights but also for public education being good, and taking care of poor people. Im against predatory lending and anything that advantages the rich over the poor like high rents n low wages (rigged courts, etc etc), and for incentivizing small business and self-sufficiency. I don't think there's a label for that.

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>>42055800
Lel nice

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>>42055833
Makes em more greater n powerfuller

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>>42055863
Are you looking for opinions or participation?

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AR-15 RULED NOT "Weapon of War"! - The Legal Brief

lol nice
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>>42055879

Well I mean they're not. Sure the Air Force bought a bunch back in the day but it's not like the AF is the military or anything.

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>>42055881
i know

i like it because it proves people who say they're "weapons of war" which is just dumb to say

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>>42055879
So this vid made me consider the ITAR angle a bit more of this whole 3d printer debocal.

When our military personal are being killed over seas buy sophisticated 3D printed guns, is it still "muh freedom"?

Its not a problem if you are an isolationist or if you think the whole world should have access to these basic freedoms regardless of ideology, but you do have to consider that these files, and future files, will be available to the entire world, so that means our guys will likely be looking down the barrel of one at some point.

>>42055881
>it's not like the AF is the military or anything.
BOO! Supplies motha fuka!
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>>42055885
maybe but nobody can stop it

besides we should be practicing non-interventionism not isolationism
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>>42055887
The prime directive, nice. Haha.

Yeah I agree. But we kinda dug the hole too deep to just say "nah, we're not playing anymore" haha.

Obizzle tried that by just leaving and it gave isis a foothold. They didnt need crappy 3d printed guns though, as magic sky crates from who knows where supplied them just fine...

Im of the opinion that good people far outnumber the bad, so normalizing firearms might be the best solution to this problem.

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>>42055889
it may take a while to leave but at the very least' we should be making more effort to leave and patch things up

it's doing no good for anyone

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>>42055892
Agreed, it should be the goal we work toward.
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I am interested on you guises thoughts on the 2nd in this reguard though... Uniquely American / western right? Or world wide human right?

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>>42055895
funny enough the founders have said our rights are inalienable rights entirely

so how you determine that is up to you

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>>42055896
>our rights
As Americans or as humans?

>so how you determine that is up to you

Well I already know MY opinion on it, thats why im asking for yours.

Not just yours specifically, but anypone that wants to weigh in.

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>>42055900
well the thing you have to ask yourself is does it say these rights are for just humans or americans in general?

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>>42055902
Yup, thats exactly the question im asking.

Your thoughts?

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>>42055905
hard to say, really

there's nothing that says it's just for americans

nothing at all

however the rule of law suggests it is currently

"we the people" can mean anyone, really.

i find it sort of off putting since any country within it's own borders can legislate whatever they want

HOWEVER when the military takes someone into custody these same laws should or shouldnt apply to them with due process

but some have argued it doesnt matter because of international law

for example guantanamo bay

thats lead by the US government so shouldnt due process apply there?
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>>42055883

Especially when you consider that legal precedent says that the 2nd explicitly applies to military arms.
Except of course when that's inconvenient...

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>>42055908
well really it applies to any arms

which is something i wish judges would understand

it's not that difficult to understand

but government has been making things more complicated since forever

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>>42055906
>so shouldnt due process apply there?
Of course it should.

But this question on the second really needs to be considered before thinking one way or the other about world wide distribution of firearms CAD files meant for rapid production.

Seems to me most people arguing on both sides of this are forgetting this wont just be a domestic issue.

I feel obligated to form a concrete opinion on this as it progresses, and the only way to do that is to hear others out.

Basicly what im asking is should caravans of Central Americans heading to the US border have the means to 3D print firearms?

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>>42055909
>but government has been making things more complicated since forever

That's what they're there for.

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>>42055911
it's not relevant because theres nothing that can be done to stop it, really

they will download it if they find it

no different than them using firearms against US law

>>42055912
true

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>>42055913
I suppose, but the argument I get when i say 3D printed receivers are dumb anyway because milling is still a better method is that its different because it makes it easier to produce, and the tech will get more sophisticated over time. So if thats the case, then it will def serve to the advantage of people world wide, so if magpul mags are ITAR controlled so people outside the US cant order them online, should a file be? And if so, how?

Also, to the point of the original question, is it right that Mexican law doesn't allow for a caravan of people to carry arms in the first place? And should "constitutional carry" apply to them when the get here?
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>>42055916
i mean according to current law, no.

they must become a citizen to do that

but regardless of law it makes no difference for as far as i can see

they get them anyway if they really want to

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>>42055917
>i mean according to current law, no.
Aren't all firearms laws unconstitutional? You can make the argument that the bedrock of the constitution only applies to citizens which is true, so thats still a law regulating firearms.

>they get them anyway if they really want to

Right, now it will just be much easier since, as has been said in this thread, it closes the skill gap.

Still begs the question on whether or not its right that Mexico prohibits the right to manufacture it in the fist place.

Which then leads back to the original question, do YOU think firearms ownership is a human right or a right reserved only for 1st world countries?

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>>42055923
>Aren't all firearms laws unconstitutional?
yup, more or less

>do YOU think firearms ownership is a human right or a right reserved only for 1st world countries?

it's a human right, so if they come in here to buy thats fine

remember gun owners also can deny service

doubt any of them will have the money to buy anything so whatever

guns arent cheap

also this would imply criminals buy guns legally. looool no they steal and distribute them
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>>42055924
>it's a human right
Agreed!
>so if they come in here to buy thats fine
Disagreed! Go buy one in your own country haha

>guns arent cheap

On the US black market, no. On the regulated market $100 bucks and a popsicle gets you a hipoint. So if the legal market is de-regulated guns are cheap.

Also, renting a coyote to bring you across the border isnt cheap either, so saving that extra $100 for the paperwork free firearm wouldnt be to much of a chore.

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>>42055928
i agree they can fuck off

do you really believe criminals are buying guns legally?

bruh it's a common accordance for gun stores to be broken into

its every day

they sheer of the serial number and go nuts

i actually have no problem with border laws

> So if the legal market is de-regulated guns are cheap.

good, the free market should be as is

fuck government they drive prices and the cost of living to be insane
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>>42055929
>do you really believe criminals are buying guns legally?

No of course not, im just pointing out that if you take away the "unconstitutional" laws that prevent them from doing so, they can, and it will be cheaper for them.

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>>42055930
okay, so that essential changes nothing

they still get the guns regardless

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>>42055931
Well, not necessarily... If that $100 gun on the regulated market costs $600 on the black market, and they only have $250 they dont get it.

If they simply dont know how to find one on the black market and are too nervous to ask in the first place they dont get it.

If they dont want to spend the time studying the process of building one they dont get it.

Not saying its a catch all, but it def makes it so the average thug will have a hard time and maybe get caught in the process.

They will for sure get it if there is no road block. Or if it just takes a few clicks.

Also i want to make it clear im not trying to troll or pick on you, i just see a ton of /pol/ about guns all over with little mention of these hard questions.

Over simplifying the issue is what ban queens do, and its not what gun rights advocates should do.

You just happen to be the one with the willingness to discuss it atm ^_^

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>>42055934
but anyone could sell it cheaper under the original price is the thing

which they do todaty

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>>42055935
Cheaper than the original legal price on the black market?

Like sell the $100 gun for less than $100?
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>>42055936
why would anyone sell a gun for the same price value?

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>>42055937
Why would anyone risk a decade in prison too sell to a buyer who has no alternative choice for less?

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>>42055938
why would anyone risk a lifetime in prison or potentiality lose their licence for not following a dumb law that says they must file anyone buying gun?

why treat it like that? treat it like any other goods and services?

were suppose to be the "land of the free"

LETS BE ABOUT IT FOR A CHANGE
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>>42055939
>why would anyone risk a lifetime in prison or potentiality lose their licence for not following a dumb law that says they must file anyone buying gun?
Because they are stupid, or more likely, they wouldn't. FFLs that pull shit dont do it for long.

First trace that leads to them pretty much will fk them hard.

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>>42055940
all these new laws are pretty much a new thing, really.

aside from FDR's bullshit

we dont need these laws

our country is young, sure but for fucks sake laws hasnt done shit...

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>>42055941
>laws hasnt done shit...
I actually know a person who was suicidal and the waiting period and background check denial saved their life. So maybe im bias.

They got the help they needed btw.
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>>42055943
Anecdotal really

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That might have come off heavier than I intended I think haha.

It was a friend of a friend. Im not like offended or something just wanted to make a point with a personal anecdote.

But it is something to consider.

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>>42055943
Aye. I mean the story goes the cops were at his house a day or 2 before because he swallowed a bunch of pills the couldnt force him to stay at a clinic foe whatever reason. He went to buy a firearm and once his local BG check went to them the immediately denied him, he had the time to think and got help.
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>>42055948
I'm not ignoring you don't worry!

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>>42055949
I didnt think you were, i just thought maybe that was like... too real haha.

It warrented a bit of background.
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>>42055900
>our rights or all humans

if you read the words directly, no where in there does it say anything about the rights not being all humans

so it makes it particularly offensive when non-citizens are denied basic rights because they aren't citizens.

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>>42055909
>well really it applies to any arms

Well, I feel there could be a limit. Such as if the gun in question needs to be mounted to something in order to operate.

Like is there really any practical reason a person would need to own something like that?

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>>42056200
>Well, I feel there could be a limit. Such as if the gun in question needs to be mounted to something in order to operate.
irrelevant

>Like is there really any practical reason a person would need to own something like that?

also irrelevant

these factors do not change our right whatsoever and there's nothing in the wording that says it does

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>>42056202
I mean it is kind of relevant if someone wants to mount a minigun to their front porch, I think.

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>>42056204
so? what good is that gonna do them exactly?

all that's gonna do is make them a criminal if they unload

then they gotta be dealt with in the courts

fun fact: it wasnt uncommon for people to own war ships in earlier america

and yes even cannons
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>>42056205
Yes, well back then it also wasn't uncommon for there to be next to no laws in place at all and basically the only way to protect yourself and property was to shoot anyone trying to encroach on it.

I would like to think we've advanced a bit since those days.

I mean I'm not against the private ownership of guns by any means. But if someone wants to keep a box of grenades in an apartment complex, I think that could be considered a safety hazard.

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>>42056207
>Yes, well back then it also wasn't uncommon for there to be next to no laws in place at all and basically the only way to protect yourself and property was to shoot anyone trying to encroach on it
thats just not true theres always been laws in place for justice for killing someone

>I would like to think we've advanced a bit since those days.

then you're going to like what you're going hear that in even today we can shoot and own mounted guns with a high caliber

look at snowbell...

>box of grenades

okay? you think people cant make explosives without law?

many things are a safety hazard
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>>42056208
I'm​ saying that people are highly irresponsible, so I don't see a problem with limiting the more ridiculously​ over the top methods of killing people usually reserved for military warfare.

Land mines, grenades, guns that need their own power source, etc.

I'm not talking about rifles and the like.
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>>42056209
yeah, and we should have the same means as the military to prevent tyranny, really

thats the whole point of the 2nd amendment

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>>42056210
I don't think that is even a problem enough to warrant any of this in this day and age.

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>>42056210
>yeah, and we should have the same means as the military

Nukes?

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>>42056211
and yet again irrelevant

it's there to prevent it

and i could argue the fucked up shit our government does is tyranny

sorry to post this video again but its worth watching to drive my point Ron Paul - Is This America?

>>42056213
nukes are a ordnance not an arm

but idk how your average person can use a nuke tho lol
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>>42056214
It's more stupidity than tyranny at this point.

Politics is a cesspool of metaphorical inbreeding.

If there was going to be a change though it wouldn't come through armed rebellion.

We are far past that point by now.

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>>42056214
>nukes are a ordnance not an arm
Best answer!

I remember a discussion on landmines here once and i forget who said what, but i was thinking that the whole time haha.

>but idk how your average person can use a nuke tho lol

Throw it really really hard?

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>>42056215
people believe they are comfortable

still it doesnt matter

it's a right and a very specific one

i dont know why people are so scared of liberty

>>42056216
meh, likely wouldnt happen...

anyway lots of anti gunners like use nukes as some sort of argument even though its not the same thing
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>>42056217
I'm not scared of liberty. I'm scared of some idiot blowing a hole in the wall of my house with an RPG.

Those are two entirely different things.

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>>42056218
has anyone done that to you yet?

like what are even the odds of that?

might as well stay home because you dont wanna get hit by a car

life has risks thats how it is

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>>42056220
Well it's primarily because people aren't allowed to own RPG's, luckily.

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>>42056221
and gangsters arent allowed to own guns so tell me how chicago is doing?

it's pretty much impossible to own a gun in parts of chicago

news flash they usually figure out a way if they're that determined

the question is why would anyone do that at random?

flamethrowers are legal in the US yet we dont have a burning homes down problem
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>>42056222
Because people are fucking stupid.

I am more scared of people who just want to play with dangerous things because they think they're cool than people who actually want to use them to commit crimes, because the latter half at least has a goal and are somewhat predictable.

The first half are the people that truly scare me because there is zero warning or reason. It's just people drinking too much and being like, "Hey let's blow something up!"
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>>42056223
>Because people are fucking stupid.
sounds like a personal problem because statistically you'd be wrong

just never leave your house then

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>>42056224
Trust me, if I didn't have a job I needed to pay bills I probably wouldn't.

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>>42056225
life is full of risks

nothing is certain

hell, the way you talked about texting and driving is also a safety hazard

but no law is gonna stop you from doing it is it?

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>>42056226
>hell, the way you talked about texting and driving is also a safety hazard

It's not when it's something I have 100% full control of.

It's only a law because the majority of people are too dumb to be able to handle it. Apparently thinking about two things at the same time is such a difficult task that they need to outlaw it. For some reason.
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>>42056228
you dont have 100% control of it no matter when you think

there's plenty of scientific data proves otherwise

theres a law yet you still do it

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>>42056229
>you dont have 100% control of it no matter when you think

>there's plenty of scientific data proves otherwise


I would gladly submit to any test that wanted to prove me wrong.

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>>42056224
>because statistically you'd be wrong

Im going with toybox on this one. If you have spent much time on the range you would know right away that people are stupid, and most cant shoot for shit.

Rounds going over the backstop is a problem and if those rounds were RPGs there would be a SERIOUS problem...

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>>42056230
...well good luck with that, i guess

since i generally do care about you and i consider you a good firend i wish you'd stop texting and driving

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>>42056232
of course people makes mistakes

but seriously who is gonna fuck with RPG's like that?

the amount of jail time for that makes insane to not even bother with it

i mean, flamethrowers are legal yet we dont have issues with those despite those could cause serious damage

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>>42056233
I'm actually a worse driver if I don't have something to focus on. Driving is such a mindnumbingly simple and boring task that if I do not have something else to keep by brain active I actually get completely distracted by any random thing on the side of the road in an effort to give myself any sort of mental stimulation at all.

It's better if whatever I am using to keep myself from literally going numb is in the same direction as the area I need to be watching.

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>>42056235
i am sorry but i find that really hard to believe

cognitive ability is more complex than that

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>>42056237
Driving literally takes up about 2% of my mental capacity. That is another 98% that is idle the entire time, and that is infuriatingly​ irritating.

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>>42056234
>but seriously who is gonna fuck with RPG's like that?

Go search "Tannerite Fails" on youtube and im sure you'll get your answer.

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>>42056238
that's debatable honestly

>>42056239
so what have those people done to ruin other lives then?

it seems like it's him doing that stuff in a controlled environment

only risking their own lives

thats something people should be able to do

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>>42056240
I don't know why people try to tell me they know more about what I do than me.

I don't know who these scientists studied, but it obviously wasn't me.

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>>42056242
maybe you're wrong?

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>>42056244
I'm pretty sure I know more about my capabilities than a scientist who has never met me.

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>>42056240
So RPGs but only usable at designated facilities?

I still have to go with toybox. To many NDs iv seen, and too many people who put rounds through there hands and floors that i know for me to feel like the average person should own something that could do so much damage.

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>>42056245
fair enough but still

seems off

>>42056246
that sounds anecdotal

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>>42056248
I don't see how.

If you have an automatic, a car practically​ drives itself.
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>>42056248
I guess, but i mean, i witness these things happen. So its a first person account.

you dont have to believe me i guess. Once you get to a range, esp a public range, you will see for yourself, and i think it will change your perspectives a little.

The first time you see someone shoot and AR with no sights and ask "where are your sights?" and there response is "what do you mean?" Constitutional carry doesn't seem like such a hot idea...

Edit: Actually its more like the 5th or 6th time.
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http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-3884

Where is this guy when I am around?

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Funniest home jell block test video ever!

Try not to laugh. Start at 2:00 for the shooting.

10mm vs 357 Magnum vs Ballistic Gel

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>>42056324
Response for Ika:
Watch as the state government scrambles to find someone else to force me to give my money to?

Also, enjoy a lull in spam phone calls and email.

Response for anyone else:

Its pretty shitty that some NY govener used his power to influence business to stop allowing a civil rights org to deposit their money in banks though. Gonna be funny when its the ACLU.

Im interested too see what people do if the government forces closed a rights org by financial sabotage, im assuming nothing.

Edit: im also assuming the NRA is exaggerating so people will throw more mone at them as they are underhanded fks.

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>>42056324

Continue to support groups that actually support my rights. The NRA isn't the monolithic entity the media portrays them to be.

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>>42056324
simply take the weapons from their dishonest cold dead hands and continue the fight.

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>>42056327
Exactly. I wasn't joking about the state gov't scrambling to fill the void. Its also unlikely that just NY business could "bring down the NRA".

Also not lying that i suspect the nra is saying they are in finacial trouble as a way to get more money from saps.

Its a dog and pony show, Im sure wayne and Cuomo are laughing it up over drinks over all this.

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>>42056329
>That sounds delightfully annoying.
It is fun to mess with cold callers, you were one wernt you?

>the way i see them they are more like adds to sell guns than anything else.

Why even waste time thinking about it?

I will say, when I was a kid, the NRA was awesome and had great educational programs and taught responsible gun usage and ownership. Their education is a shell of what it use to be which is a huge shame.

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meh, aside from colion noir (who is the only sane one there) the NRA isn't a huge loss

funny though it was group founded by union soldiers after the civil war

on the other hand i find it hard to believe that the NRA is in any sort of finaincal problems
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>>42056329
>responds to everyone but me

Discrimination. Burn in hell you DL-hater.

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>>42056329
>they are more like adds to sell guns than anything else.

Nah, that'd be all the anti-gun politicians.

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>>42056340
>Nah, that'd be all the anti-gun politicians.

This.

LGS has a plaque with obama on it with the caption "salesman of the decade" haha.

Just who owns all that stock in freedom group anyway?

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>>42056340
>>42056346
pretty much

gun control threats always make guns fly of the shelves and also create new members of the NRA and other pro gun groups

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>>42056285
Wut. Haha, i think it too late for me to be reading that. I was taking it seriously then decided that was the wrong move.

>>42056313
Haha... That guy needs to hit the range i think XD
F for the table that gave its life in the pursuit of science.

Anyway the correct answer is .357sig.
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So this got posted around. Apparently its the report on the failings of the school system in the case of -whats his name- in FL last feb. It was suppose to be heavily redacted, but apparently got released in full by mistake.

Its actually kind of depressing. Kid had a rough life. No excuse, but still.
https://archive.fo/gRpZX

Who knows. Read it if you are interested, dont if your not.

>>42056334

>“It must be noted that in particular, [the student] seems to identify as an animal,” the report says, citing an evaluation completed when Cruz was 5.

Im telling you, your culture is next ;)

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I was thinking of putting this in toys "cringe but i like it" thread but its not enough cringe and too much "I like it"

I Need A Clip!

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There is a 90s windham/bushmaster VEX for sale at the LGS. I made the mistake of handling it and now i want it. It would be the icing on top of my "when bushmaster was good" collection.

The guy wants 700 for it which isnt bad at all, but 700 might as well be $20k for me right now haha.

Do i throw caution to the wind and charge the thing? Or do i be a responsible adult?

Wildcard choice: do i make him a low ball offer on just the upper?

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>>42056951
As a WW owner, I approve.

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>>42056951
On the one hand, "selling off most of my stuff"
On the other, "buy stuff hoarde hoardr hoarde"

On the third hand "gimme half of something i want so you'll only have the other half"

I'm dismayed at you MK. I thought you were one of us [hoarders].

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>>42056955
Windham is the best company in the business buy far. Thats why i like old bushmasters too. "Bushmaster" puts out some real junkers and windham still makes a quality product. You made the right choice.

>>42056961
I am but i try hard not to be.

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Ill probably just buy ammo, that will be cheaper and still scratch the itch haha.

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>>42056980
They're bretty good, dude, and they make Bravo Company's uppers, and probably PSA's, too.

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>>42056993
Areo is a great company. Iv used a bunch of their parts and have no unkind words. My pistol is an aero reciver (and i think parts kit, kit might have been windham).

Its priced about the same as an m&p15 sport II so thats a tough choice. Aero prob has a nicer barrel.

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OK, time for something different.

If you've never toured any American warships, this video of a private off tour route on the USS Iowa is a must see. Seeing it will make you wonder about what you've seen in movies about where command and control stations are and what they look like on a battleship.

Having seen a similar guided tour on the aircraft carrier Midway, seeing the Iowa's C&C stations was a real mind blower. You also get to see some visual perspectives in close up regarding the newer weapons systems added to the ship.

Exploring OFF LIMIT Areas WW2 Battleship : USS Iowa

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>>42057038
Unfortunately I cant watch the video atm but i did sleep overnight on the battleship Massachusetts when i was a kid. It was a boyscout thing, though i wasn't a boyscout, i just tagged along haha.

We got to explore it quite a bit, i was mainly interested in the gun batteries and the engine room. Hell of a large ship, easily got lost and probably caught hell from the old man for crawling down the wrong hatch a few times haha.

The bunks were pretty comfortable tbh, if i remember correctly. Though, everyone was pissed that some dude decided to do a morning jog around the deck, the sound just echoed haha.

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>>42057038

The Navy is weird yo. They still use analog computers on nuke subs.

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>>42057069
>They still use analog computers on nuke subs.
Isn't that because they carry nuclear missiles, though?

I'd imagine that's because analog computers can't be hacked by the enemy.

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>>42057069
exactly what do you mean by "analog"? Even vacuum tube, toroid memory or tape memory computers are still digital.

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>>42057072

Nah, it's just because of the mentality of "if it ain't broke don't fix it."

>>42057073

As in: Mechanical computers.
Mechanical Computer (All Parts) - Basic Mechanisms In Fire Control Computers

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>>42057073
If you poke around YouTube long enough, you'll find stories about Russian military ships and aircraft that still rely primarily on mechanical targeting computers that are pretty much failure proof in the face of electronic jamming and atomic counter measures.

The same holds true for the Iowa and other WWII era ships with big guns and optical rangefinders with mechanical ballistic calculators that don't require enhancements that can fail in harsh environments.

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>>42057077

The Russians still operate the four masted Barque STS Sedov as a training ship which like the three-masted Barque USCGC Eagle was taken as war reparations from the Germans in 1945. The Sedov is 16 years older than Eagle though. Being laid down in 1920.
The Italian Navy has the full-rigged ship Amerigo Vespucci and Germany has the three-masted Barque Gorch Fock.

Lovely ships those. There's an anecdote that says: While sailing in the Mediterranean sea, in 1962, the American aircraft carrier USS Independence flashed the Italian Amerigo Vespucci with the light signal asking "Who are you?" The full rigged ship answered, "Training ship Amerigo Vespucci, Italian Navy." The US ship replied "You are the most beautiful ship in the world."

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>>42057073
I always thought tape as a storage medium was still considered "analogue" such as VHS and betamax. I could for sure be wrong, but that was always the impression i was under.

(i posted this as a thread apparently.. im a mess tonight haha.)
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>>42057087
Tape became a digital medium once affordable pulse code modulation electronics became a thing.

Once upon a time there were very well off Grateful Dead fans who were allowed to set up primitive digital recording setups at concerts. Most of the storage medium for that era was based on industrial Betamax recorders instead of early hard drives that wern't suited for field work.

Even some 1980's consumer computers used cassette tape drives to save and share applications and data in a digital format similar to the Digital 8 video format. Later came dedicated cartage tape formats for off line data storage. Some corporations still hold onto their legacy data on such drives.

So, for a brief period in history, tape was both an analog as well as digital storage medium.

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>Here in Aperture Science, we fire the whole bullet—that’s 65% more bullet per bullet!

and yes, sadly, apparently this IS real.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/2014/04/20/no-not-a-parody-anti-gun-groups-depiction-of-a-speeding-bullet-has-gun-owners-shaking-their-heads
Edit: I'm the dumb. It was apparently a fake FB page LARPing as everytown.
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>>42057431
when you get the chance go on facebook and look for "anytown for knife safety"

it's a clear parody meant to mock the real

shits hilarious

this page is a clear example of actual REAL trolling
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>>42057433
haha yeah they got me, but they straight up stole everytowns name.

I had to read that article twice.

Now im wondering if they are just saying it was trolls to cover their tracks haha.

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>>42057434
well it's called "anytown for knife safety so i messed that up

but, just the way they word things and the images they use i believe them to a really good troll to mock everytown

for example when they go on about the "National Restaurant Association" lol
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>>42057435
Well I guess the folks who posted that pic i just posted "stole" (registered first) the "everytown for gun safety" name on FB.

Then Everytown threatened them with legal action.

OR they posted something dumb and yelled "I GOT HAXED BRO!" Really not sure haha.

I mean... why let it go for years and years and NOW suddenly want to do something about it?
>for example when they go on about the "National Restaurant Association"
Lets see what happens in England, memes might become real.
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>>42057436
they're something about it because its gaining traction and more people are being more aware of the parody of the nonsensical shit everytown posts

at least thats my guess

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Earlier last week, I ordered a Vortex SPARC AR and got 10 free P-MAG's for 200 bucks from Palmetto State Armory.

People are right about PSA's shipping times. You would think their products are delivered by boat from China.

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https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/08/3d-printed-gun-activists-set-to-face-numerous-us-states-in-court/

This is going to be the new War on Drugs, isn't it? Whatever else you might think of guns and gun nuts, this is folly. Trying to outlaw bits of digital data? They'll have to dump billions into enforcement and trample the 1st, 4th and 5th Amendments in the process.

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>>42057557
The only route they could go next is requiring a federal license to purchase and/or use a 3D printer, which just isn't going to happen.

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>>42057557
They already do that with child porn. But then, there are far more scofflaws who will defy the government and host gun files anyway in protest than CP purveyors.

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>>42057557

Really they've already lost. What you're seeing now is just the final round of desperate kicking and screaming.

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>Ordered a CFK Cutlery knife cuz I want a nice bushcraft knife in D2 tool steel for inna-woodsing last week.
>It shipped from Oregon to Florida and is now seemingly stuck in Florida. Going back and forth between distribution centers.

The replacement power cord I ordered for my laptop the day after I ordered the knife I've had for three days now. I swear it's a NSA plot to make me lose my mind. But the jokes on them, I already have a bunch of knifes to fondle until this one gets here.

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>>42057576
This.

You note that no one is stating that it is cheaper and easier to gather the right parts from a Home Depot for a fraction of the cost of a 3D printer along with a spool of the right nylon plus the price of the electricity to print the parts. This also assumes you have a computer with CAD/CAM software that makes the printing possible.

Improvised one shot guns have existed almost as long as the industrial revolution made them possible to begin with.

And, for bonus points, let's see the states cry when confronted with their lack of diligence over existing plans for improvised firearms already on the web, untouched by their ignorant efforts to ban one very costly and inefficient means of building one.

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu...
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>>42057537
Palmetto has been horrible with shipping for a while, but i know a lot of people are going in for that deal so they are probably back logged to boot. Is the one all the way to the left that Swedish mouse gun?

>>42057557
Computers and guns are super scary to people who have no knowledge of them, gonna hack bullets through the phone lines! They already won the court case, shitty politicians are just trying to make it hard hoping it goes away. I doubt anything will stop it.

>>42057562
>>42057576
These

>>42057618
>I swear it's a NSA plot to make me lose my mind. But the jokes on them, I already have a bunch of knifes to fondle until this one gets here.
According to the NRA Obama is still in my closet waiting to take my guns!

Be careful, my left hand is all scared up because i cant knife haha. Put a loaded gun in my hand, no one batts an eye. Put a knife in my hand people are heading for the hills :P

>>42057624
I came here to say this haha. I dont see the hype aside from the news needs a way to scare people. Thats really all any of this comes down to.
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>>42057625
One last video on how far along and how reliable 3D printed uppers and lowers have come.

The lower of this specific pistol was designed by Warfairy for the project.

Shuty MP 1 with Gluty lower 3d printed gun

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Time for some fresh Gun Jesus videos.

Here's something I'd love to bid on despite the fact it was deactivated. It's perfectly legal to own a 40mm machine gun in the US, after all.

Swedish Antiaircraft Artillery: Bofors 40mm Automatic Gun M1

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>>42058119
Omigosh i want one.

The video is wonderful and, isn't this the gun from the John Belushi movie 1941?

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>>42058130
>isn't this the gun from the John Belushi movie 1941?
Given how ubiquitous the Bofors was in WW II, the anti-aircraft set pieces most likely had one or more.

It's hard to see details with the cast standing in the way and the canvas tarp over that one.
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>>42058153
I couldnt find a clearer shot of it but i remember it clearly even having seen it 40 years ago.

The handcranks and the sights and the way it was used in the movie was just so wonderfully done, unless there were other types that look just like it, thats definitely it.

I must see that movie again! It really ruined my very young mind.

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lol fucking based

dude hit the nail on the head

"and what the hell is so confusing about the words shall not be infringed"?

my dude i ask this all the time

I will Fight To Protect Your Second Amendment Rights!
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>>42058515
>"and what the hell is so confusing about the words shall not be infringed"

A lot. As I stated before. But no one ever wants to listen.

As you know, I'm not anti-gun, but I absolutely hate when people say, "What's so confusing about it?"

Because anyone who isn't basically sleeping next to a rifle can see the obviously glaring issues with making such a statement in such a simple way. This is specifically why the Supreme Court has had to go back and clarify it again and again and again through countless court battles.

"Shall not be infringed" without any following statement opens a huge can of worms that, if the Supreme Court hadn't clarified, would cause SO many problems.
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>>42058542
im so sick of having to explain something so simple

so simple it should have something you've learned in grade school

lets put it this way

there's a sign that says "do not break into my house"

what does that tell you? it's pretty obvious dont break into the home... its not that difficult

people over complicate

that most simple shit because of feelings

it honestly shocking that there is judges that cant read something as simple as that

>"Shall not be infringed" without any following statement

THATS THE POINT
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>>42058543
So if I rob a bank it would be unconstitutional for the police to tell me to drop my weapon.

Because that is infringing on my right to own and operate a firearm.

If I'm arrested and sent to prison it's unconstitutional for the police to confiscate my firearms. Because that infringes on my right.

If I'm mentally unstable and known for violent outbursts, it's unconstitutional for then to bar me from owning a firearm. Because that infringes in my right.

If my 2 year old wants a gun and I give them one, it's unconstitutional for anyone to take it from them. Because their right cannot be infringed.
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>>42058544
are seriously asking this question? you're using it in a threatening matter

it's talking about LAWS not criminal actions

this is like saying murder is legal because you used your weapon to kill somone

seriously just stop with the strawmanning right now i am not in the mood

your rights arent there anymore when you become a criminal. well you have your 4th and 5th amendment rights but specify what they are for

>If I'm mentally unstable and known for violent outbursts, it's unconstitutional for then to bar me from owning a firearm. Because that infringes in my right.

yep, it does. because how on earth can anyone really tell what is a "mental illiness"? is depression enough to bar someone from owning a firearm?

literally up until the most shitty president who is FDR came into office people suddenly stopped understanding the 2nd amendment

weird, huh?
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>>42058545
It would be illegal for me to rob a bank, but it would still be unconstitutional for them to ask me to drop my guns.

I'm not saying the right to own a firearm shouldn't be protected. I'm just saying that the way it's worded is ASKING for abuse.

As someone who is big on game design, when I see a rule put down, my first thought is "How can I break this?" and with a phrase as simple and as absolute as "Shall not be infringed", I can find a LOT of ways to break it.

I'm not trying to remove the right for law abiding citizens to own guns. I just don't like the fact that with the way it's set up, anyone who has nefarious intentions can easily use a statement like this to get away with a whole butt load of bullshit.

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>>42058546
again, if you're committing a criminal action to have a cop to tell that person to drop the gun then you should prolly do that

you know what happens when people dont comply with that

thats on you

its a CRIMINAL action and the moment you commit a crime then you simply dont have these rights anymore hence the term "law abiding citizen".

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>>42058547
>moment you commit a crime then you simply dont have these rights anymore

Where is that stated?

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>>42058548
alright tell you what lets go by your logic

what happens when you dont comply with the police to drop the weapon

i dont understand how this isnt common sense

i know what you're trying to pull here but its not the same thing

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>>42058549
I'm saying that technically any law that prohibits anyone from owning a firearm for any reason is unconstitutional according to the second amendment. We just allow laws like this because they make sense, despite their existence TECHNICALLY being illegal.
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>>42058550
...that's just grasping straws but whatever

my point is there is nothing in 2nd amendment that says it's okay to ban actual assault rifles

yes, i am talking about full auto guns

it's constitutional which is the NFA is bullshit

the only reason why we have so many gun laws is because we LET it happen

our rights are under attack and you cannot possibly deny that

i just wish people would stop trusting our government so much and expecting them to take of us

now THATS asking for trouble

look, i have no porblem with background checks, but they cross the line when they're trying to ban rifles that look scary to them

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>>42058551
Lol you tell I haven't slept right.

Look at those missing words

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>>42058551
>my point is there is nothing in 2nd amendment that says it's okay to ban actual assault rifles

I never said anything about that and I completely agree with you.

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>>42058554
then i would certainly vote for you if you ran for president

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>i just wish people would stop trusting our government so much and expecting them to take of us

I don't trust anybody, the government or citizens.

That is why I am not a fan of laws that allow for abuse by either one.

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>>42058556
i know a lot of people make of the NAP but it is the most humane and simple principle

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-aggression_principle

pretty much is if you arent harming anyone else you're good

meaning you take any drugs you want to because it's your own personal choice to harm yourself so long as its not someone else being harmed or abused

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>>42058559
See, that requires people to be trustworthy and responsible, and people notoriously are not.

We have laws to control people because a lot of people lack self-control. That is just how it is. In a perfect world we wouldn't need to limit freedom, but if you don't there's always going to be some asshole that tries to take advantage of the situation.

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>>42058560
we allow people to drink do we not?

if people wanna do cocaine who cares? its their problem

>but if you don't there's always going to be some asshole that tries to take advantage of the situation.

wnat do you mean? if this said person is harming you or making your life, or anyone elses life a living hell its okay to have laws against that

but you can also have a good balance of freedom and a rule of law

problem is america is anything but that today yet we have the nerve to call our country "the land of the free"

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>>42058562
>we allow people to drink do we not?
Well we tried to not and you saw how that turned out.

The main issue is that no one is a criminal until they actually commit a crime. So saying things like "keeping things out of the hands of criminals" is an empty statement, because anyone is potentially a criminal. So unless you take it away from everyone it's impossible to "keep it out of the hands of criminals."

Not that I'm advocating that. I'm simply saying that trying to discriminate between a criminal and a non-criminal is pointless because they are basically the same thing, the only difference is circumstance.
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>>42058563
>Well we tried to not and you saw how that turned out.
yup

>Not that I'm advocating that. I'm simply saying that trying to discriminate between a criminal and a non-criminal is pointless because they are basically the same thing, the only difference is circumstance.

that is what the courts are for

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>>42058567
Yeah, well if I'm in a coffin because some coked up psycho decides to open fire on the 7/11 while I'm standing in line, the court isn't going to help me much.

Like you said, people trust the government too much and the courts are no different. Courts don't protect you. They get revenge for grievances against you. If that grievance is fatal, you're still dead, regardless of what the court says about it.

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>Yeah, well if I'm in a coffin because some coked up psycho decides to open fire on the 7/11 while I'm standing in line, the court isn't going to help me much.
this could happen RIGHT NOW

only now it's worse because people on streets keep resorting to synthetic drugs which are just as bad

look up videos on what flakka does to people

people will find ways to get drugs and usually far worse of drugs. the war on drugs is a disaster.

>Courts don't protect you. They get revenge for grievances against you. If that grievance is fatal, you're still dead, regardless of what the court says about it.

life is full of your risks and you're right the courts are not there to protect you

they're only there to determine if person on trail is guilty or not
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>>42058569
Yep, which is why I don't trust anybody, regardless of what the law says.

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>>42058544
>So if I rob a bank it would be unconstitutional for the police to tell me to drop my weapon.
No. Because possession of a weapon while committing a crime is a felony. Robbing a bank is a felony and a felon being in possession of a firearm is a felony. So, since a felon can not be in possession of a firearm, demanding they drop their weapon is not unconstitutional.
>If I'm arrested and sent to prison it's unconstitutional for the police to confiscate my firearms. Because that infringes on my right.
Depends on the crime, any felony or misdemeanor of domestic violence will prohibit you from owning or handling a firearm.
>If I'm mentally unstable and known for violent outbursts, it's unconstitutional for then to bar me from owning a firearm. Because that infringes in my right.
This is subject to state level laws. In my state, it could if your outbersts involved direct threats of violence to yourself or specific people.
>>42058548
>Where is that stated?
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/identify-prohibited-persons

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>>42058577
>which is why I don't trust anybody
see this is the thing that makes you and i so different

i dont trust everyone but i do trust some people like close family and friends

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>>42058545
>literally up until the most shitty president who is FDR came into office people suddenly stopped understanding the 2nd amendment
>weird, huh?

So for most of history the SCOTUS ruled in favor that the 2nd amendment was a right of the states and NOT a right of the individual. It wasnt until the 20th century that the SCOTUS ruled that it was indeed a right of the people as actually stated in the language of the constitution. So this isnt exactly true.

That is why it was okay for entire citys to ban firearms in there limits in the old west.

I would guess that ruling had something to do with the NFA. Also prohibition had EVERYTHING to do with the NFA.
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>>42058581
All of my friends have betrayed me at one point or another in my life, and the only family I have is my mom.

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>>42058584
I would never betray you.
Unless I'm paid enough money in advance
And I'm talking 6 digits
I'd then share half of that with you

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>>42058583
yes and no

the reason that changed was because of the 13th amendment

the 13th amendment made every right apply to every single state

so with that said the NFA is STILL unconstitutional

>>42058584
hmm, that sounds like a personal thing

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>>42058580
Technically that entire document is unconstitutional.

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>>42058586
Give it time.

>>42058587
I suppose it is.

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>>42058587
>the reason that changed was because of the 13th amendment
>the 13th amendment made every right apply to every single state
The 13th amendment abolished slavory. There was never a time that the constitution did not apply to every state. The 13th was unique because it stated "and territory".

Whether its applied to every state is irrelevant anyway because if SCOTUS says the 2a is a right OF the state and not the people, gun bans would still be constitutional.

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>>42058588
>Technically that entire document is unconstitutional.
You're playing the side that I normally play so i cant argue with you haha.

>>42058550 is the argument i make to "purists" all the time, so us going back and forth about this would just open up a time warp or something. Not a chance i want to take haha.

But if those questions that i answered were sincere, the answers i provided are true. I can provide more info, and browsing ATFs website is a wealth of info.
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>>42058588
you're right it is

now you see the mile they take when they only claim to take an inch

>>42058590
i know what you're saying and that's because of dc v. heller case law

i am not saying that's wrong

but like, if people would just had read the amendment it should became obvious shouldnt have needed that case law

in anycase that case law is protecting what left of the 2nd we have

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>>42058591
I think the real issue here is that it's very common for a lot if people to get in the mindset of, "You wouldn't point out something was wrong unless you disagree with it."

Which makes it hard to have discussions about guns with either side of the group really. If you point out that the second amendment has some flaws in it's delivery, the pro-gun groups think you're just looking for an excuse to get rid of it.

If you try to point out that guns aren't the cause of violence but instead how people execute violence upon each other to anti-gun groups, you're just a redneck gun-nut that has sex with their rifle.

Both sides of the debate have their heads up their own asses that you're really never going to make any progress with either one.

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>>42058592
>i know what you're saying and that's because of dc v. heller case law
Actually it was Presser Vs Illinois in 1886 that solidified the 2a as a right of the people and not the state.
>This second post-Civil War era case related to the meaning of the Second Amendment rights relating to militias and individuals. The court ruled the Second Amendment right was a right of individuals, not militias, and was not a right to form or belong to a militia, but related to an individual right to bear arms for the good of the United States

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>>42058594
yeah, this may seem bias for me to say because i am pro-gun but anti-gun people are WAY more hard headed because they base shit off of their emotions and dont have a fucking CLUE about the very guns they wanna ban

>>42058595
oh so you're right! thank you for clarifying that one

hey i am not perfect i dont remember all case law lol

also

>as a right of the people and not the state

DUH
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>>42058594
>Both sides of the debate have their heads up their own asses that you're really never going to make any progress with either one.
I know.... god i know haha.

Really its the lack of information and use of buzzwords on both sides that kills me. Both sides need to actually look at the laws, why they exist and learn more about what guns actually do.

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>>42058563
>The main issue is that no one is a criminal until they actually commit a crime.
Right.

>So saying things like "keeping things out of the hands of criminals" is an empty statement...

Not really, because people who are convicted for felonious crimes are much more at risk to repeat them and be convicted again.

>.... So unless you take it away from everyone it's impossible to "keep it out of the hands of criminals."

This operates on the assumption that citizens are criminals before they even commit a crime. Think of all of the freedom you would lose if our government operated on that assumption. Gas stoves and matches would be banned because they could be used as accessories to arson; public transportation would be the only way to move from place to place because citizens could not be trusted to drive responsibly; pornography and violent video games would be banned for the fear that people might develop depraved ideas and act on them otherwise. These are just some examples, but you get the point.

I don't want to live that way.

Maybe repeat felons do need to be incarcerated for life. Maybe boys need to stop being coddled by their parents and public education. Maybe blacks need to stop being a predatory culture where one person will victimize the collective for mere personal gain. I'm not actually sure about the validity of any of these statements, but I am confident that there are cultural issues underlying violent criminal behavior, and we conveniently ignore them by just placing restrictions on every citizen's freedom.

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>>42058596
>oh so you're right! thank you for clarifying that one
>hey i am not perfect i don't remember all case law lol

I hope im not coming off as condescending. Im not trying to be, but this kind of stuff is important for me to know so i know it haha.

Even then, i make mistakes, because there is just so much and the right info is becoming more and more distorted, esp now that the antis are literally changing words and meaning to fit their agenda.

State level laws change so fast that i stopped trying to keep up. Luckly fed laws are slow to change regarding this topic which i think most people will agree is the right thing to do, unless they need a sound byte for a campaign ad or something haha.

You can always refer to the actual written laws though if you have any questions. Dont trust a "truth about guns" article, go look for the actual text of the law.

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>>42058599
>I don't want to live that way.

Neither do I. I'm not saying we should ban anything.

I'm saying that trying to judge what someone is going to do before they do it is next to impossible, so trying to say things like, "Well only criminals use guns in the wrong way." is an empty statement, because using a gun in the wrong way is generally what makes someone into a criminal in the first place.

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>>42058600
oh, no you werent coming off as condescending

i get the gun laws but all these "laws" contradict themselves so much

like none of this shit is consistent

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>>42058601
I understand what you're saying, and I agree that anyone can commit a crime at any time. I also agree that "keeping guns out of the hands of criminals" means nothing, and we all ought to be skeptical when someone says it.

What I disagree with is the notion that firearms ownership, whether in part or in whole, should be restricted because anyone can commit a crime with a firearm at any time. Just like the prohibition of anything, Its prohibition assumes that the citizenry in general is irresponsible, impulsive, and prone to gross criminal behavior if they have that thing.

This is nothing new, and annoying for us both to revisit, as these same points and counterpoints are brought up again and again and again and again in contemporary discourse. However, I do believe there is a slippery slope at some point when fixating on the danger of "could be's".

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wew.

So on a completely unrelated to gun /pol/ subject, with the addition of a Marlin Guide Gun .45-70gov't ... i have now witnessed every brand that falls under the Remington corporate umbrella explode or fall apart directly out of the box.

Rem - 870 directly out of the box would throw the barrel off when pumped forward do the a stripped ratchet nut.

Marlin - Guide gun blew side of receiver apart and banana split the barrel backwards from the receiver end using factory federal ammunition on second shot. Could see where the thin metal in the receiver split.

DPMS - AR10 failed and split upper receiver at the barrel within first mag.

Bushmaster - Trigger assembly pins cracked and trigger group flew apart while firing.

-Other Issues-

Rem - 700 heavy barrel bore drilled way off center, noticeable with the eye, calipers proved it. When firing one side of the barrel would heat up much faster than the other causing group to move about 3" in 12 shots.

DPMS - AR10 Keyholing at 25 yards out of the box.

Marlin - Chipped and split stocks directly from MFG

Rem - Versa Max blew off extended ported choke by catching buckshot wad and sending shot through ports. Noticed burrs where choke meets barrel at the bottom of the threads.

I really hope the next bankruptcy puts what was once my favorite Manufacturer out of its misery. Until then, avoid these products like the plague. I am to the point where i think i would buy a taurus over any Rem product.

And support? nope. In the case of the guide gun they offered a 50% off MSRP coupon for a guy almost losing his hand. Never heard from a smith, if they even had one look at it as they don't service their own guns anymore, they outsource to random "Bobs Backwoods discount Guns n' Shit" smiths.

Don't give them your moneybucks. If you do, its at your own risk.

/Rant.

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>>42058612
Remington didn't go bankrupt because their guns are awful

It's because of Donald Trump, desu yo

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>>42058624
Well the trump slump pushed them over the edge, but they were in trouble long before that.

The R51 failure hurt them pretty good. Giving up the 1100 line didn't help and producing absolute garbage was def a huge contributing factor. I hope they fold before they buy and destroy more manufacturers.

Sig Sauer is next btw
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>>42058628
>Sig Sauer is next btw
I sold my P320c last week. I'm glad it's someone else's problem now.

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>>42058678
Yup, mine is back for service for a 3rd time. Trigger reset went kaput, the the big drop safety recall, now its the firing pin spring.

I suspect there is a silent recall going on because they wouldn't just send me a spring, they insisted the gun be returned and sent a label. I'm going to try to get a hold of the armorer, hopefully he calls me.

The problem with Sig is they are going to go the way of Colt. They got the military contract so they are going to snub the civilian market while they ride on that. They cant make a striker fire to save their life, and they are just tossing their name on junk to make a quick buck. Stay away from any Sig branded ammo, see >>42052430

If you want a Sig Romeo, get a holosun, its the same sight but cheaper because "Sig" isnt painted on the side.

iirc Sigs current CEO is the CEO that ruined Kimber. His philosophy being, "advertise it, hype it up, and get it out of the door, don't worry about the quality we can just recall it later if there is a problem." which is ringing true.

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>>42058679
I've always been critical of SIG in the past. I bought the P320 on a gamble that it would be all right and I was just biased.

>If you want a Sig Romeo, get a holosun, its the same sight but cheaper because "Sig" isnt painted on the side.


I always expected that because the body of Sig Romeo optics and Holosun are identical. I never tried a Holosun, but I don't know that I want one, even though their warranty is solid. I disagree with buying SIG's line of optics because the 320 forces you to use them. I'm pretty stubborn about shit like that.

Just a few days ago, I got a SPARC AR with 10 free P-Mags from PSA. I think the red dot will end up being bretty gud.
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>>42058679
>Stay away from any Sig branded ammo
I've got two boxes, one of their shallow hollowpoints and one of the FMJ. After careful inspection of all 70 bullets, I found zero defects or loose fit. I'm gonna shoot them off and not bother buying more despite the dirt cheap prices for their ammo. Most reviewers who shot it back when it premiered praised it for being good quality and loaded hot. I don't think I'll trust my life to it when I have so many other suppliers I can rely on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Lr23j0Vx6g

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>>42058680
>Just a few days ago, I got a SPARC AR with 10 free P-Mags from PSA. I think the red dot will end up being bretty gud.
Awesome, glad it came in. You were saying the shipping was taking forever haha. I haven't heard of the sparc ar, let me know how it goes.

>I never tried a Holosun, but I don't know that I want one, even though their warranty is solid.

Its better to deal with them for warranty stuff too. The ones they make with the mini solar panels are soild, they run even with no batt which makes them a pretty good affordable trijicon alt. I wont give up my radioactive night light though haha.

>I've always been critical of SIG in the past. I bought the P320 on a gamble that it would be all right and I was just biased.

Yeah i gave it a chance too. I really liked Sig, I always wanted a 226 but couldnt afford it so i got a 92fs (just like the military haha). Their metal frame hammer fires are still pretty quality and i cant pass up a swiss or german sig, but the polymer strikers are coming out junk.

I assume some greasing of the wheels got them the mil contract because the M9A3 and 19X are far better firearms.
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>>42058682
Yeah out of the box didnt see / have any issues. It was when i carried it that the rounds started to push in to the cartridge because the had no crimp.

>Most reviewers who shot it back when it premiered praised it for being good quality and loaded hot.

Shows
>iirc Sigs current CEO is the CEO that ruined Kimber. His philosophy being, "advertise it, hype it up, and get it out of the door, don't worry about the quality we can just recall it later if there is a problem." which is ringing true.

And yes, they are loaded hot, which is why the idea of having an over pressured .357sig round (which is hot to begin with) in my chamber was very concerning haha.

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>>42058683
>I always wanted a 226 but couldnt afford it so i got a 92fs
I once had a police trade-in 226 that I bought for ~450. It was in all right shape and I assume it was a late 90's or early 2000's model because it had no rail and the night sights were dim. It was all right. I honestly think the Beretta is a better choice for no reason in particular, other than those M9A3's are SO FUCKING SMOOTH and I will get one some day.

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>>42058685
It comes with a target on the box :D

And a warning "please remove contents of box before using target" haha.

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>>42058686
Nice. How do you like it?

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>>42058687
I dont own it :/ i just let my dog sleep near one to keep her safe haha.

Though I AM thinking of swiping ye old CC on it, i need some retail therapy after the past few weeks iv had haha.

Iv shot a few and man... Id be okay with it being DOA... Its soooo smooth. But im glad its not :P

I dont think it would be worth giving up my current 92 for and thats really the only way i could afford it. I just wish there was a way to get night sights on my 92 that wasnt a huge hassle.

Its still cheaper than most 226's for what you get. Def worth the ~950 bucks but at the same time... Thats a mortgage payment haha
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>>42058746
Well, now we know where all those mil surp Mosins came from...

Honestly, some of those prob still fire.

I liked that big anti tank looking rifle too.

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>>42058746
Ready to fire.

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I need to print out one of these and mount it on my iron sight. So kawaii!

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WHAT HAVE I DONE

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>>42058827

Bought a smol Glok apparently.

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>>42058796
If my tax dollars went to making sure that was standard equipment on every FN M4 rifle issued in every department of the military, i would not mind a bit. Not the Colts though.

>>42058827
Hey lil fella! dawww, he's just a widdle guy inn 'ee?

Great buy dude! I keep wanting to go for it and get one, but at the same time, i stuck a 17 in my holster that i carry my 32 in the other day and thought "Hmmm...I could probably get away with a 34..." haha. I might get a 42 just to be different :P
(im assuming you got a 43, but its hard to tell.)
>>42058829
LMAO that pic
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And now, for something completely different...

It appears that a chink in the ban of Russian AK imports has appeared. Granted isn't the wide scale approval we've hoped for after Trump shutting the door on AR imports to punish Russia. But this is a good start!

https://fimegroup.com/vepr-rifle/vepr-243-win/

https://mailchi.mp/fimegroup.com/molot-hunting-rifles

VEPR in da house once again!

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>>42059093
Call me when we get SGL's back.
Call me when we can get the 12 and 15 series.
Call me cheap 280 dollar Chinese import AK's are a thing again.

There has literally never been a worse time to want an AK than now.

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>>42059093
A VEPR in .243 ... Im not sure if thats the coolest or dumbest thing haha.

Its interesting, but VEPRs were always expencive to begin with. I thought they were being sent to Turkey then being imported right along? I know you could still get them for a while after the ban and the 12 became the go-to detachable mag 3 gun shotty over the saiga. Maybe im remebering wrong.

Any word on Kalashnikov USA? I havent even seen one yet.

>>42059095
>There has literally never been a worse time to want an AK than now.
Yup. Remember when ARs were starting around 800 and aks were around 400? Now aks are up around 600 for a WASR and you can palmetto together an AR for 4 or less.

Crazy times.

vz. 61s use to be $250 -_- ill never forgive myself for missing that boat.
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>>42059164
>Any word on Kalashnikov USA? I haven't even seen one yet.

I'm sure that will be a hot flash on /k/ the day those drop. Renewing importation on Russian guns and ammo is pretty low on the radar for good reason. Trump's administration made a big deal about blocking sales from specific companies that were doing things the US said was illegal. Opening the flood gates would be a hard 180 degree shift in policy in that regard.

It's best to keep the news of new Russian imports limited to keep damage control to a minimum.

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did the mikhail get the idea of the AK from the STG-44?

or is it just a myth?

what do you guys think?

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>>42059409

It might be true in the very vaguest sense that the AK was inspired by the STG and built to fill the same role. It's not true that it's a direct copy. No parts interchange between the two and mechanically the AK is much more closely related to the Garand than the STG. It's no different than a normie thinking a Toyota Prius and a Chevy Volt are exactly the same because they both have four wheels and perform the same function.

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Here's a fun video demonstrating the Fith Ops perimeter alarms. I can't believe these things are legal in California (for now, that is).

12ga. Camping Trip Alarms - Unusual shell loads!

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>>42059527
I wouldn't want to be caught dead with one of these.

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>>42059550

Without a barrel to contain the pressure they're only slightly more hazardous than a M80 or the like. Though you still don't want to be stringing-up booby traps where some boob could maim themselves on them as the police tend to frown on such things.
Not sure why, seems like a service to me. But ce la vie.

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>>42059563
The idea is to use blanks. Its more of an alarm than a defensive tool.

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>>42059550
Maybe you should watch the video?

While your choice is the correct one and you shouldn't be within 50 feet of one of the exotic and highly illegal modified shot shell cases used in the tests, they are a very nasty and effective means of SHTF home defense once the law vanishes.

PS, reinforcing the shot shell casing is child's play if you think about it. Illegal? Hell yes! Effective in SHTF scenarios? Hell yes!

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In other news,

1/3

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2/3

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It's happening!

3/3
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For those who missed the hearings of Kavanaugh, here is a pretty good high light.
On Second Amendment, Kavanaugh says he must side with Supreme Court regardless of personal opinion
Might be good times ahead. But what people say and what people do are 2 separate things.

>>42059604
I feel like your trying to say something, but I just cant put my finger on what haha.

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i hate videos like this

they start of with the usual bullshit like this "when did the right to bear arms become about the individual right and not the militia?"

it's just like... what? it's always been about an individual right

The 2nd Amendment Explained

these people are so disingenuous its not even funny

oh well, there's case law that says it's our individual right

dc. v heller AND mcdonald v. city of chicago establishes that
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>>42059673
Starting around 5:00 is where Dianne went off the rails with her delusion of what must be her most inane lie regarding the day-to-day use of semi-automatic pistols and rifles, claiming they are not in common use!

I have no idea how out of touch with reality her thinking is to make any such claim. Even she bought a pistol in the days after her friend Harvey Milk was shot in his San Francisco office. She's not that naive!

Judge Kavanaugh was pretty chill with her feigned ignorance on how many semi-automatic rifles are in daily use around the nation. Had that been me and given zero fucks, I'd have rubbed Harvey's murder at the hands of a fellow elected San Francisco official in her face and ask her if she believed things would have been different had he been armed with a commonly available semi-auto pistol.

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>>42059683
>Starting around 5:00 is where Dianne went off the rails with her delusion of what must be her most inane lie regarding the day-to-day use of semi-automatic pistols and rifles, claiming they are not in common use!
and then she later babbles on about how they're used in so many school shootings

AR-15's are literally in common use

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>>42059687
Thankfully this is her last hurrah. She's on the outside of the Democratic national committee and has already been served notice she won't get any support for another term as senator. A replacement, a popular Mexican American woman, has already been vetted by the DNC. Bye bye Dianne!

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>>42059688
finally! she's been in there LONG ENOUGH

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>>42059688
>>42059692
I cant imagine her replacement will be much better since the DNC is going all in on over-the-top leftist stuff.

At least Diane lost her credibility and wasn't being taken seriously anymore.

But she did do that conference with trump that one time, so she must be tainted now haha.

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>>42059693
unfortunately you're right

each dem gets just as insane as previous ones

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omg

look at the dislike bar with for this video

CNN Explains: The 2nd Amendment

ahahahahaha nobody is buying their lies

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>>42059702
Thats quite a ratio. Only 339 people out of a ~150k views liked it haha.
I feel bad that I gave it the view tbh, at least i have an adblock enabled.

I wonder which side they are on...

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>>42059704
adblock is your friend in this case!

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>>42059702

Good show.

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>>42059095
>>42059164
>>42059216

Hot flash incoming! Granted this is just another US produced AK based on parts kits from Warsaw Pact countries as well as listing at $900 fucking dollars.

But here you go. New old stock AK 47s.

The AKG-47 - New Product Announcement!!!

Fair warning: The hype machine is turned up to 11 in order for this shill to justify the $900 price tag. Keep an empty plastic trash can handy. You may feel nauseous enough to vomit!

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>>42059749
I have no desire to ever own an AK. They are fine rifles, but they don't do anything I want to do. So if I got one it would just be for to have, not use (aside occasional range fun of course).

So that being said, the only AK pattern I would want is an AWB era Egyptian Maadi. Complete with thumb hole stock and 10 round mag. Not because i live somewhere where that is my only choice, but because I think its a funny example of how useless that legislation was, AND i think they look damn sexy set up like that.

Plus, its a very well built rifle.

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>>42059749
I'd rather buy a WASR, because even though it probably won't matter at all to me, I like the idea that you at least get a CHF barrel.

Not to mention, you can get an SLR-107 for 50 dollars more, and I obviously drink the Arsenal kool-aid.

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I used to be a big AK fag. I got better.

Still have more AK-action guns than AR's though.

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Me little Armalite > those contraptions.

Little Armalite
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>>42059792
>the only thing wood-colored is the mag
shooty things are best with wood

>>42059798
preeeeetty

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>>42059801
They showed a lot of galils and i think some stoner 63's in that little slideshow.

I love that song though.
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Speaking of little Armalites.

I want one of these someday. Might trade in the 10/22 takedown against one.

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>>42059806

Get one if you want but don't trade the 10/22 for it. They jam rather consistently even with premium ammo and the polymer barrel deforms over time so they don't stay zeroed. I've had three and been disappointed anew each time. There are aftermarket barrels available that might improve things but they're still inferior to the 10/22 takedown.

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>>42059811
I try to tell people at my range all the time, these are NOT daily shooters or target guns. They are something you stash away in a survival kit or something.

The 1022TD is ... not what i wanted. I wanted a good little squirrel gun that i could throw a scope on and have in my backpack all small game season, but its just not working out.

If you even touch the forend it throws the zero. Yes i tightened the barrel nut, yes i made sure it wasn't the scope, yes i benched it. Any amount of pressure on the forend and its enough to toss it about 1" at 25yds. Too much to guarantee your best chance for a humane shot.
So the MKII is back in that roll.

BUT i like the 1022, so i tried to fit it into a survival rifle roll. Idk though. I know magpul makes that little clip together stock, but still, the ar7 might be a better choice.

They make a little rail section that replace the rear sight on the barrel for the TD... maybe that and like a scout/pistol scope... idk. haha.

Edit:
I have a regular 10.22, that aint going anywhere (except maybe Volquartsin) haha
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>>42059813

The only takedown .22 I've ever encountered that's as good as a non-takedown is the Winchester 94/22 and it only just qualifies as a takedown. Otherwise they're all going to be at least a bit finnicky. The Henry AR-7 is most definitely the worst though.

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>>42059814
Ha, I'd love to have one of those, but i wouldn't touch a new Winchester if they even still making them, and they wernt popular enough around here to be on the used market... maybe if i ran up to Maine i could find one.

>pic

Best take down .22lr imo. Never fussy, holds its zero.
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>It's funny because when LBJ was going on about the "Military Industrial Complex" Detroit was called "The Arsenal of Democracy" and produced vast amounts of war materiel. But now it's in ruins because all that got shut down or shipped elsewhere. Which is ya know, the exact opposite of what the "Military Industrial Complex" is supposed to do.

Detroit Arsenal Tank Plant: "Assembly Lines of Defense" circa 1941 Chrysler Corporation

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>>42059822

That's Eisenhower.

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>>42059822
Probly the shittiest tank ever.

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>>42059822
Nice. Was this pre pearl harbor? It didn't mention an enemy haha.

I wish media was still like this, just a sharp sounding guy telling you whats new on the horizon from IBM or something haha.

Really it was an advertisement for Chrysler mixed with some propaganda, but still, its interesting and informative. I'd prefer it haha. A really good Ad is why I'm here right now haha.

1952 Eisenhower Political Ad - I Like Ike - Presidential Campaign Ad
If someone had the balls to make their whole campaign like this in todays climate, and not make it a spoof, I would vote for that person haha.

That last voice over was kinda ominous though haha.

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>>42059832

Yes it is. Not sure why I typed LBJ. Is not even the right time period.

>>42059835

Not by a long shot. It was a cludge build, thrown together in like a month because they needed something that could mount a 75mm yesterday preferably but today at the latest. But despite that it was very reliable, had good mobility, OK armor and very good firepower. The Germans were quite disturbed when it first started showing up in North Africa.

Course it was just a stop-gap until the M4 could be designed and fielded. But it performed quite effectively regardless.

>>42059850

I believe that would have been post Pearl Harbor. Though probably not by much.

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The state pistol league starts tomorrow night and I am not prepared at all. I haven't shot my bullseye .22 in months, just too much going on.

I might throw a red dot on it, not sure id be good enough with the irons right out of the box.

I'm not looking forward to this season, i hate organized competition haha.

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Lyndon Johnson worked to keep the Vietnam war going (though he wasn't quite as corrupt about it as Nixon would be).

He also routinely flashed his willy at reporters and had MLK and Robert Kennedy killed.

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>>42059988
LBJ was a piece of work.

When he flew home to Texas for the last time as the former president, he ordered everything he wanted off of Air Force One for his future presidential museum. All at tax payer expense.

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ayyyyyy we won.

I scored a 263 which wasn't bad considering i haven't shot this gun, or 1 handed in months. Put 50 rounds through it before the match. The red dot i didn't think i would like, but honestly, it was pretty okay.

I wasnt best on the team though. 271 was the team high. Juuust squeaked it out by 9 points though, so practice is required.

Also, Rugers like to be run dry. Every time i put the smallest drop of oil on the thing it stovepipes ever other round. Lucky i had a shirt on and used it to wipe down the chamber and extractor before the rapid fire portions.
(seriously, picture the smallest drop of oil, then cut that in half).

Anyway, we are considering dissolving the team now so we can say we were undefeated in the 2018-19 season. But eh, maybe we will risk it.
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I've been carrying my Glock 43 OWB for a few days now and I don't think I'll want to conceal anything else. Its light weight is a great convenience.

I got some Trijicon HD's for it, and they are very nice as well.

>>42060082
>Every time i put the smallest drop of oil on the thing it stovepipes ever other round.

You should try DuPont teflon dry lube. It doesn't attract dirt or fowling, but will make metal surfaces slick.

It does make me wonder how long the MKII-IV pistols would last without any lubrication. I doubt there are many people on this earth who have ever worn one out.

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>>42060109
Maybe I'll give that stuff a look, though, dupont is remington and I hate remington haha.

I will say the MKIV had some issues when they came out, but they seem to be pretty strieght now. The range i put some hours in at has rental MKIVs that probably see about a brick a day, and see little maintenance and they just keep going.
Early on there were some issues with broken firing pins, but that seems to have been straightened out.

I still wouldnt give up my MKIII for it. They are not as hard to strip as people say.

Ruger is a great company but if bill ruger knew they were making MSRs and 25rnd 10/22 mags he would spin in his grave.
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this is the same exact school i went to and graduated from

National Walk Out Speech Cocoa Beach Jr/Sr High School

if you notice how weak her talking points are and it's all appeal to emotion

why do they focus so much on emotion?

love how she said "implement backgroun checks"

already have em'!

>we cant criminalize people with mental illnesses

you cant criminalize law abiding gun owners either
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>>42060148
>dupont is remington
Nope. Not for a long, long time!

DuPont sold Remington in 1993. Some of the nylon based rifles and pistols were sexy to look at!

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>>42060518
Yup, but, Remington is SO bad that my hate expands all time and space.
Like, literally the worst American gun company at the moment. Sig is vying for the spot though.

The nylon 66 is a super cool gun. Well, not really haha.
But it is a cool little piece of history. They were really collectable a few years back.

>>42060516
Was there a shooting at that school?

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>>42060520
Well then that makes the crying seem a bit disingenuous.

Practical Drills for the Home Defense Shotgun

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>>42060523
yeah its bullshit

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>>42060523
Pardon my inexperience but considering many fsctors including ranges are generally well under 5 yards, isnt a pistol much more practical for home defense than a shotgun?

Even if the clean kill is the objective, large caliber revolver has better potential, faster, less take-able by the opponent, and blah blah blah whatever.

Also, been looking for excuse to use this image.

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>>42060535
Its situational.

If you hunt, and you have a shotgun, and you only want that one gun. A shotgun is great! Or if you have a farm.

Also, a great tool to post up with while you call the police.

Tbh my favorite is an ar pistol in .223 3800fps with 40gr v-max bullets. But, thats my situation. If i lived farther out of town, it would no doubt be my 870.

All that being said, its normally my 9mm because I'm too lazy to unlock the safe.

If someone is within 5 yards of you in your home, you are a very heavy sleeper, or you need new locks.
Or a dog.

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>>42060540
In my state, you better not be firing before they get past your locks or you'll be very sorry.

How bout 76mm plushy artillery instead?

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>>42060519
I always had a massive boner for the XP 100 pistol. So sexy looking! Not a bad gun in .223.

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>>42060577
Pretty much a bite size 700 right? I'd own it, i want to get into 100yd pistol shooting to be honest. like on a competitive level.

I always liked the Thompson center contenders. almost got one in .308 fell in love after the first shot haha. Alas, he wanted too much the money.

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>>42060581
>I always liked the Thompson center contenders.
I shot a few at various competitions when friends wern't in competitive mode. I'd have a box of ammo of various calibers for such occasions. While the T/C build quality is outstanding, I never managed to get gud with them. The market is glutted with the things, so finding a basic pistol and barrel in your caliber of chose should not be a challenge at all these days.

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>>42060582
Yup, pretty easy to come by, so i know when its time, ill be able to pick one up.

I'd really like a muzzle loading barrel for it, those are a bit harder to find though. Not impossible, but they weren't as popular as say, .223

What kind of competitions do you shoot?

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Some fine Remington quality.

Honestly, would have made a funny ending to Jurassic World.

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>>42060775
jesus christ...

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>>42060775
This is not even the slightest bit relevant to anyone at all.

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>>42060778
This reminds me, Ponychan sexually assaulted me when i was 17.

I didn't come forward sooner because i liked it.

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>>42060672
Oh thats just for shooting around corners.

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>pic
This is what fucking up twice looks like.

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>>42061077
Only 1 968 ft.?

That's it?

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>>42061089
His designation should be 3 of 5.

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Anyone in this thread actually shoot?

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>>42061105
Yes. I live in the Northwest and have access to public land during the spring and summer. I also have access to two indoor ranges for winter practice. I mostly shoot with my pistols to run through my ammo and keep proficient with my skills.

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>>42061109
Nice! what do you have? what kind of shooting do you do?

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>>42061105

Occasionally.

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>>42061112
I won't fingerprint myself by posting my brand of guns or calibers I shoot. Basically I practice self defense target shooting with two pistols. One is a CCW that I haven't finished breaking the springs in on yet due to the lack of time in my schedule. My full sized pistol is nicely broken in and only required some fine tuning on the sights. No lasers or tactical lights, though I have rails on both pistols for one or the other. Debated getting the Sig Sauer STL-900L two-in-one laser/light for one pistol. Some issues in multiple reviews with how secure the mounting hardware is pushed that back.

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>>42061246
Yeah, i know you do, how many yards out on that?

>>42061247
>fingerprint myself by posting my brand of guns or calibers I shoot.
If someone found out i shot a glock in 9mm, i would stick out like a soar thumb! OH SHIT!

Are you hitting low and left?

Sig brand accessories are just lowest bidder junk.
If you want a buy it for life light, go with Inforce or Streamlight. If you really want the sig, i would find out what company actually makes it and buy it direct, you will get it cheaper. For instance, if you want a Sig Romeo red dot, buy a holosun.

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Oooookay i can post political stuff too i guess.

Apparently that Cody Wilson idiot got picked up in Taiwan for the statutory he was charged with in Texas. Whoops.

Is any of it legit? Beats me, everything about the case seems ... off, but, he brought this upon himself.

Did YOU know that 3D printing of firearm receivers was a thing even BEFORE some blow hard anarchist decided to try to squeeze his 15 minutes of fame out by making it an "issue"?

Whew, i look forward to your responses haha.
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Also, not for nothing but,

>pic


Why is his mag in upside down? This picture has been bothering me.

It wont work with the mag upside down. Maybe he should have 3d printed an arrow?

You would think a "gun guy" would put his freaking magazine in correctly before his "photo op"

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>>42061254
I'm pretty sure that was not a gun owner but a model who had no idea what he was holding. Happens all the time. Neither the photographer or the model knew fuck about that specific upper. PS, I had a feature length dong when I got to finger fuck one. The unique caliber and availability of a wide range of ammo killed the deal, though.

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>>42061255
That IS Cody Wilson though haha. The 3D printer dude everyone has a hard on for lately. But i think you are right, he is just a pretty boy know nothing asshole.

I had an AR5.7 they are super duper.
I want the 12" now. Last time i checked they wernt available though, and the price went up about $200 and im po'.

Haven't checked in a bit though, maybe they have come back down. A 9mm upper is my current lust item.
5.7 is an amazing round, but more of a vanity item, i want the practical uppers first.

edit:
Nvm, they are still pricey, they dont offer the 12" anymore and this message is on their website
>WE HAVE TEMPORARILY CEASED PRODUCTION DUE TO UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES. WE WILL BE BACK UP AND RUNNING AS SOON AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.

Should have kept it i guess.
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>>42061256
>he is just a pretty boy know nothing asshole.
So obviously I'm a bit salty. But i saw this coming. I really hate when some arrogant person is the "face" of gun rights. ESP when its a 2nd AND first amendment issue he was "advocating". Of course he won his court case, because everyone knew it was legal from the start, but he went about it in such a "media darling" way that its not going to do us any favors.

Hes been the David Hogg of the pro gun side for a while now, and its really annoying that now he is in this trouble.

He wasn't an engineer, he wasn't involved in the firearms community, he just wanted to cause trouble and be famous, and he got his wish.
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>>42061105
>Anyone in this thread actually shoot?
No. I'm actually deathly afraid of guns and I collect them and post pictures of them on the internet to look like a tough guy, but never ever do I dream of shooting them.
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>>42061293
Nice group dude!
How many yards out was that?

Yeah, i know you do too, I was just sick of the politics i guess, then i caved in, so i haven't a leg to stand on now haha.

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>>42061294
That one was 10 yards with my Glock 19.

I'm not saying I'm great, but I recommend to every new shooter that they should spend 15 minutes dry firing every once and awhile, if not every day. I've developed good muscle memory that way where my shots land consistently, if not precisely on the target where I wanted them to go.

Dry firing does translate well into shooting fast, too. Even at 15 yards, I can hit in the vicinity of the center of mass--like, within the 9 ring--every single time with rapid follow up shots, which is close enough for government work, I guess.
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>>42061308
Yup! Exactly! Dry firing is extremely important, esp when learning a new trigger.

I liken it to learning a clutch in a brand new car, you cant just do it naturally at first, you need to concentrate and go slow at first to do it smooth.

Almost all shooting problems can be solved by pulling the trigger slower haha.

We need to figure out how to get a friendly competition going on here.
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>>42061248

It varies. I was shooting at 25 yards that day though.

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Can we get some animated gifs happening?

Here's one to start off.

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Slavs are weapons.

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AnonymousCountry code: blank.gif, country type: ponyflag, valid: 1 42061532

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Thanks! Have a few more on the house.

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Hubert!Zn.OKn9A2oCountry code: blank.gif, country type: ponyflag, valid: 1 42061541

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>>42061535
BATTLEFIELD 2
BERETTA
CANADA

☲ Prince Ember Storm!MSNowBALLkCountry code: ponies-twilight.png, country type: ponyflag, valid: 1  42061545

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>>42061541
>Canada

Eh?

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ah fuck i thought i had more

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>>42061533
>>42061555
Gun Jesus witnesses and approves your dubs!
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>>42061501
Holy cow what is that, i want that

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>>42061610
Dear santa:
I've been a rotten little boy but maybe just maybe you could bring me a present anyway...

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>>42061671
Fuck, now this is why i can never argue when people say "california sucks".

If i cant blast away with .50 cal semi on bipod then fucking what good is this state anyway.

Bet that thing's far too rich for me anyway *pout

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>>42061677
Pretty shitty since Cali hosts a lot of long range competitions, which is why they made it legal for out of state folks to bring their .50BMG rifles into your state, they just cant trust you to have one.

So progressive.

There are better rounds for long range now anyway.

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>>42061678

Well then, as long as i can get hit by a legal round from one of you other Americans then it's still good i guess.


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