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/k/ General

The go to place for the discussion of weapons.

#Cyclic

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we need more gun control worldwide

first post best post

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>>42043004
You are a spineless pussy and a tyrant.

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Did it get nuked again?

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>>42043179
yeeeeeah.

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>mass shooting at school
ALL DAY AND ALL WEEK MEDIA COVERAGE. QUICK EVERYONE GET DAVID HOGG RIGHT NOW
>mass shooting as school was prevented
[crickets chirping]

...i honestly really hate MSM i really do

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>>42043182
Advertisers dont pay good money to report on no one dying. They need a body count.

The funny thing is that there are laws in place to prevent reporting on suicides to prevent copy cats but for this situation they wont apply the same logic, there is too much money on the line.

Instead they put up high scores and glorify the crap out of the piece of shit which lets other psychopaths know "hey wanna easy way to get the entire world to talk about you for a few days? Just fallow these easy steps!"

You can ban every gun on earth and the violence will continue.

I for one will make a concerted effort to never learn this fuckers name or see its face.

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>>42043204
>>42043207
it's just so frustrating because all it does is make things worse and worse

not to mention there's "mass shootings' that happens in innercities that happens on a DAILY BASIS and nobody even bats an eye on that

but when it's a lone wolf school shooter all eyes on that shooter

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>>42043210
Well when its a crminal shooting another criminal with an illegally obtained firearm there is no one to feel bad for and nothing to make a point about.

The real problem as i see it is that even though there are things that can be done and policy that could make sense and regulations that could help, none of them are exciting.

Since the news and the politics are just popularity contests and marketing, no one would even consider a centrist approach based in science to make society work smoother.

That dosnt sound as catchy as "ban em all!" And "muh cold dead hands!"

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>>42043362
Or maybe you just tend to notice the extreme opinions more because they stands out as irrational. Yeah that's part of the problem but there's a reason laws aren't based on public opinion. Of course when reasonable moderate solutions make no difference, it gives ammo to the extreme opinions.

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>>42043362
i remember one time i was watching on the news how a group of gang members were going all over the state breaking into gun stores and stealing guns

the only people reporting it were local news outlets

pretty annoying and they even admitted gangs sell the guns illegally on streets like candy and file down the serial numbers

and then law abiding gun owners catch the blame for the everyday shootings in innercities

shits fucked
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>>42043364
Well see, thats the scariest part about this particular subject.

Pockets of places are starting to drive policy on opinion which is how you end up with laws like CO having a magazine limit on revolvers specificly, NY says you can have a 10 round mag but only put 7 in it and VT made it a felony to buy a standard cap mag in the state, but its okay to buy one in NH and bring it back, MA makes it a felony to have an empty shell casing without a licence.

Its insain. The worst thing is watching law makers drive policy while showing no pratical knowledge about the subject they are legislating. Or a willingness to learn.

Its the "war on drugs" all over again with USA today showing chainsaw ar15s as the reefer madness.

The worst thing might be that because it was a shotgun and not a 2spooky AR it will prob fall out of the limelight quick because thats the one uncle joe biden said was okay to have.

When the news and the politicians get things SO incorrect about a subject i have volumes of knowledge in, i have to assume they are getting things just as wrong when it comes to things i havent studied.

Thats scary.
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>>42043374
>the ar15 is the modern refer madness
that's best comparison i seen yet

i like it

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>>42043374
Nobody with half a brain wants to be a politician. Like my dad said, politicians are mostly failed businessmen and lawyers.

>>42043372
Look at this bill a customer gave me today

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>>42043382
wew

that's pretty funny

>Like my dad said, politicians are mostly failed businessmen and lawyers.

your dads right

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>>42043389
I didn't think it was funny, just interesting. At first I didn't see the point but I guess your post helped explain

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>>42043392
i just mean the odds of you finding that is pretty funny

nice find nonetheless

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>>42043382
Heh thats pretty funny.

Honestly though im sick of both sides. After the florida thing and the non stop coverage and just onsloght of slogans and complete spewing of bs on both sides im so burned out.

Luckly when im burned out i tend to just focus more but care less if that makes any sense haha.

I think Its cyclical... I think those who dont learn from history are doomed to repeat it, but history in this case is 30 years ago with the brady campaign and the 94 AWB.

Fools on one side fought background checks tooth and claw... And now admit, yeah, not such a bad idea.

Fools on the other pushed for the banning of spooky looking "features" and mag capacitys which had ZERO impact on crime. Problem is they never admited thier side was wrong on that.

I think its funny that the school shooting that kicked off this whole mass shooting media craze happened durring a nation wide "assault weapons" ban but its still the point they push.

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>>42043382
backed by Smith n Wesson of course

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>>42043396
Gotta push something

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>>42043406
The only thing i want to push is a small lead boat-tail projectile down a tube by using the energy of expanding gasses caused by the act of combustion tword a small paper circle thousands of feet away.

Is that to much to ask? Haha

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>>42043396
>"assault weapons"
until i see anti's properly explain what an "assault weaon" is i will maybe listen to them

since they can't they have nothing of value to me

to me it just sounds like "we made up this and it just means weapons that have cosmetic features that look scary to us".

they did the same thing with bayonet lugs
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>>42043413
Well... Assault weapon actually has a legal definition and yes, its exactly that, a firearm that has features of a military style weapon and that has a detachable magazine forward of the trigger.

They had to define it to make it a law.

Sure its as dumb as calling a car with a spoiler an assult car but as stupid as it is, it is legal.

The biggest falisy iv seen is "assult rifle" whos definition is a rifle with select fire capability, was literally changed by webster to also include the definition of assult weapon after the florida thing.

THIS shit is why this particular subject is so confusing and messed up and driven by emotion. Reality itself is being warped to make people right or wrong haha.

And the hole just keep getting deeper.

If you take the armalite patent for the ar15, scale everything up by .0000002 of an inch and call it the "doobie flooby gun 17" it would be legal in Massachusetts until the AG changes the law without consulting elected officals by saying "actually the doobie flooby has always been ilegal i just decided today" haha

At least its something to talk about i guess ^_^
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>>42043409
Cans are more fun to shoot

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>>42043426
the problem with that is

it's just so broad

also the ATF is unconstitutional and shouldnt be a thing

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>>42043437
Haha. I dont want to seem like im just disagreeing for fun but our opinions are probably going to be a bit different once in a while so just as a caveat i want to say i mean nothing personal and respect you as a friend.

But whaaat? Haha.

ATF is no more unconstitutional than the EPA, FDA, FBI or your local police department.

In what way is the ATF unconstitutional?

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>>42043413
it's a weapon you assault people with, obviously

>>42043440
https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/25187-atf-elimination-act-re-introduced-in-the-house
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>>42043440
>shall not be infringed
those are clearly an infringement on our 2nd amendment

hell alot of the agencies like the FBI infringe upon our 4th amendment

the bill of rights is very specific and they mean what they say

you have to look at this from a historical prospective. our founds didnt want more power to government which these agencies clearly are

>>42043441
exactly. that article is correct
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>>42043441
I cant argue that they dont fuck up all the time, but the existance of the agency isnt in of itself unconstitutional.

I like how the artical says that thier responsibilitys would be transfered to the DEA... Which is in essence the same type of agency plaged by the same kinds of problems.

What they are saying is they just want to drop the F from ATF.

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>>42043446
well the agency can exist legally but it shouldn't have any legal power over the 2nd amendment

madison made that extremely clear when he wrote the 2nd amendment

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>>42043448
They dont have legal power over the the 2nd amendment other than to enforce the laws passed by congress.

They cant make laws. Thats why the bump stock thing has everyone squirming because congress is telling ATF to re write what constitutes a machine gun so they wont have to go on record voting one way or another and ATF is saying it not our job to do that, and as it stands by law, its legal.
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>>42043413
>>42043441

This is what i'd choose for an assault weapon.

Ban it. Pencils too, scary.

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>>42043451
congress shouldn't have ever made laws infringing our rights

i see your point, but that's corruption at play

were supposed to be a free republic

thats me problem with this. they can "infringe just a little" and overtime they can water it down until the 2nd amendment means nothing.

sorry, i dont trust government will care.

like franklin said

".Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither."

were supposed to be the land of free and i say lets be about it for a change

>>42043452
give it time
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>>42043454
>shouldnt have made laws in the first place.

Thats a whole different topic we would probably mostly agree on.

------

I think they are just as fed up as everyone else to be honest.

Sig brace? Nah thats not a stock

Shockwave? Dosnt look like a shotgun to me.

They have basicly admitted that the nfa is useless and pretty unenforceable.

I feel bad for them sometimes when they get the blame for what they are directed to do by politics.

But at the same time, if the mayor tells the police chief to start taking bribes and he does, they are both at fault.

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>>42043454
That's a very subjective way for Franklin to have put it. It's more astute to say, those who sacrifice liberty for security will have neither.

Edit: i think its a misprint, they meant to say this is the land that used to belong to the Free Peoples but now it's ours
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>>42043459
Egghead
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>>42043458
i think anyone passing unconstitutional law should be tried for treason

simple as that

>>42043459
there's alot of different ways people think he said. but he was a anti-federalist and would likely highly agree with what im saying if he were alive

you'd be surprised at how radical our founders were

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>>42043460
Egg for my butt

>>42043462
>unconstitutional laws as treason

You're talking about setting up a guillotine in the streets there

>founders radical

Not surprising, once i took a real history class. Until then, wool over eyes from public school

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>>42043464
oh no i am talking about jailing them for laws they break which are the very ones they love to ignore

the bill of rights

>Not surprising, once i took a real history class.

and you would have found they were. look at thomas jefferson. he'd likely be proud of me if he were alive
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>>42043466
Madison tried real hard not to include those pesky rights

Unless im mixing up names wasnt Jefferson absent from constitutional congress? I forget why he wasnt there but hmmm

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>>42043460
Omigosh shrimp on little lyras head.

Oh and its fishpony cyuuute
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>>42043462
The constitution is a thing.

The bill of rights is a thing within that thing.

The bill of rights are rights you're born with, they are not given to you but by nature itself.

Its why England is so jealous of our 1st amendment. They have free speech as a permission and we have it as a right. World of difference.

But the modern world might as well be an alien planet to people in 1776.

8 billion people?? FFS haha. In the 60s they said it would be impossible to feed any more than i think 4 billion then some new farming techniques came about in india. (Edit: and they all fly around and drive around the planet at will with a little piece of plasic in there pocket that lets them all talk to each other at will.. Dafuq??)

I guess my point is, i agree in spirit but even the founding fathers knew that times would change which is why they included a way to amend the constitution, and they DEF didnt want thier words looked at as the words of gods.

Do i believe whole heartedly that every responsible adult should have access to whatever they want?

Sure do!

Do i think any ol fuck should be able to walk into a walmart and grab a full auto MP5 off the shelf no questions asked?

Sure dont!

Im like a half white half black baby... No group will accept me haha.
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>>42043469
jefferson still advocated for the bill of rights

>>42043472
i dont believe they should be. a right is a right. but it's okay if you think im crazy... i just read it as literal as possible and at face value if they have a problem with 2nd amendment then work on amending it. until then it's a unconstitutional

>Im like a half white half black baby... No group will accept me haha.

you're a mulatto. i dont hate you for that. in fact i dont hate you at all.
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>>42043472
Ah but that argument has been over-applied.

For example, when i was in school in late 70s it was asked why if drugs are prohibited there is no mention of them by founding fathers and the teacher told the student, because thats a modern problem, they didnt know about it.

Excuse me? Lie. Opium was used to subjugate occupied labor force by the British Empire before then and for many decades.

Founding fathers didn't win independence because they raised a Continental army, they won because well, a) Franklin got the French to rescue us but also because armed militias mustered with the guns they kept in their houses to oppose a major force led by Cornwallis that was about to do a Sherman's-march-to-the-sea plunder through our breadbaskets while Washington was pinned down. Magically a militia force made of regular people and their home defense weapons appeared and shut that down.

Founders know that to repel foreign invasion as well as to hunt game and defend the home requires an armed populace. They also wanted us to be a real threat against the corruption of our own government. They said so.

If we believe the NRA that guns are for hunting we don't need much. If we believe the Founders, we need guns on par with what our military has. We need them on par with what Russians or Isis might carry against us.

Now, i dont think we should buy full auto at Walmart either. But if .50 cal and larger might appear in my neighborhood as a conquering force, i think i should have better than ten-round semiauto 9s to defend with.

Against the burglar, i'd rather have the bat. But hunting and burglars aren't what the right to arms is for: its for defense against governments, our own and invaders. I don't have the answers but i wish we'd all be more familiar with our Founders' vision for us when thinking what to do.


Aaaaand this isn't about gay sex so i kinda withdraw my opinion.

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>>42043475
Haha im not literally a half white half black baby ^_^ its just an analogy for being a centrist.
(Im Portuguese Italian and French... Thats way worse haha, but the foods good)

I think the bill of rights are seperate from the constitution for that exact reason. They are inalienable.

But i tend to agree with Scalia that no right is absolute. But i also dont think ANY small arm should be "banned" i think regulations are fine but there should always be a way to obtain what you want as long as your willing to be responsible and fallow the rules.

Just like immigration. Legal immigrant that came here from wherever. Awesome!

Illegal that said fuck that and snuck in. Fuck that guy.

But the opportunity to do it right should be reasonable and freely available to whoever wants it.
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>>42043475
Oooo mulatto.


Sexxxy

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>>42043480
Oooh portuguese italian and french

Seexxxier

wazzuup

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>>42043482
You lookin good as a wheelbarrow

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>>42043483
If you are referring to the position, then Yes please.

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>>42043480
oh i thought you were being serious nvm

i dont agree with scalia as there's nothing there that says it's legal

"infringement" is word that is strict and means what it says. if we were to go by his word than anything can be banned. it says what it says and i think that isn't up for debate. like you said they're unalienable rights

guess thats something we disagree upon
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>>42043486
Well if you read Scalia's points and then look at the wording of the Amendments it becomes possible to see how his view can slant.

The problem with loose wording is that the way the political wind blows on the high court has a tendency to distort basic meaning, like my go-to example seperate but equal and separate not equal.

Words aren't as clear as they seem.

Like right that bail be reasonable. Justice Breyer says, well if there is right to bail at all, sure it should be reasonable. Its easy to jump up and down about how bail should be reasonable but the amendments aren't worded for shit. There's a huge hole right there, and same for the Second.

Its fucked up. They spent all summer (or was it a year or two? I think a summer was high school misinformation; it was longer) writing the articles but Madison wrote the Amendments with no intention to pass them. Probably he wrote them in self-sabotaging language in purpose because he wanted to protect the elites from "the mob".

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>>42043488
idk i read as clear as day and so did our founders

for years it's been read as such

why is it so hard to understand today when it's been understood the same since our country has been alive?

link related:
http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/wew/quotes/arms.html

hey here's a quote from the writer himself:

"[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
--James Madison, The Federalist Papers, No. 46
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>>42043486
Then you have to be willing to accept that every gang banger in Englewood also has that right.

You have to admit that background checks are an infringment and full auto muggings are the norm.

Again i agree in spirit but in practical terms it cant work that way.

I use to be in favor of constitutional carry untill about the 20th person came to the range i RSO for with NO sights on their rifle, and NO understanding of why they are needed.

I dont want that guy walking around with a gun in public just "cuz muh rights"

But at the same time i think if he/she is willing to get an education and learn about the tool and the responsible usage of said tool, they should have every right to carry one.

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>>42043494
gangbangers get them anyway tho

and yes, full auto is constitutional

there's nothing in the document that says otherwise

>muh rights

is fully justified because that's what it is

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>>42043492
Funny that quote was the one that jumped out most in the linked material.

However, like i said meaning is easily distorted by looking through the lens of the political wind of the time.

Since the Marshall court there have been many periods where the laws are interpreted differently, and it's because of the special interests of the men sitting on that court.

Btw mikie i like that you've gone running not to the distortable language of the amendments themselves for their semantic interpretation but straight to their legislative history to decipher their true meaning.

Remind me not to disagree with you on stuff.

Further these statements of the founders also support my position that the purpose of guns isnt to repel burglars but to stand up to governments and in this regard the losses of civilians in numbers of a few dozen here or there seems diminimus compared to ensuring the security of an entire nations population. But i'm not gonna defend that if someone disagrees.

Ooo look i infringed on someone's image character. I need to be punished...

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>>42043497
Dude, it says what it says... How are you trying to say it's not? Yeah, the federalists do but what surprise is that?

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>>42043488
Well you can ban anything "not in common use" and that "serves no purpose in a milita" which could mean anything you want, your right.

The SCOTUS is weird. They never want to say anything too definitive because i think they honestly dont know if they are right or not haha. Its gotta be a stressful job.

>>42043492
Yeah iv never thought of the federalists as like power hungry tyrants. I think they just thought they states would go to war more often without a strongish fed govt. Which explains why they were pretty popular in RI... Dont wanna get annexed by Connecticut haha.

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>>42043500
that's what i mean...

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>>42043497
Is this the only pic we use now?

Haha im down

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>>42043499
Im...not saying its not? Im saying its willfully misinterpreted to serve political ends which is why looking to the founders as you have is so important.


I agree tho that people must be better educated. Implementing education as condition if gun ownership is kinda unconstitutional tho, the only effective way is to actually properly educate everyone in the first place.

Which brings me to my own pet peeve of quit fucking indoctrinating us with goddamn lies, thats why we're in this mess.

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>>42043505
What pic i dunno what you mean

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>>42043506
im not saying it's a lie. the anti-federalists wrote it for this very reason.

BECAUSE of today's politics

the federalists were opposed to the bill of rights

can you guess why? ill tell, because it gives people freedoms and less to government

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>>42043509
You mean the freedom to do this?

Oops i be tuned out for a bit, gf taking me to walmart now

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>>42043511
sure...

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>>42043497
>>42043499

I mean... For YEARS the courts ruled that the 2a only applied to the state...and everyone was just like "yeah alright"

That was fucked.

It wasnt until recently (past century) that they were like.. Oh shit.. It says right of the people.... That MIGHT mean the people haha.

We honesly have the best interpretation of the 2a that we ever have since it was written so lets all be thankful for that.

I need to sleep to go.

We might not all exactly agree but i enjoy talking with you guys all the same!

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>>42043446
you didn't read the whole article

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>>42043514
Nity nite

Don't let the bed bugs bite.

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>>42043514
rest well

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>>42043516
The rest of the artical was just a background of waco ruby ridge and fast and furious which i already knew. Then some ass hat saying "ATF? Ill bring the chips!" (Haha paraphrasing)

I stand by my statements.

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>>42043520
"Focusing on the ATF’s failures and reckless behavior misses the point: The federal regulation of alcohol, tobacco, firearms, or explosives isn’t a legitimate function of the federal government under the Constitution. As Sensenbrenner’s bill points out, any legitimate functions should easily be carried out by other agencies. As Vance pointed out:

In a free society, alcohol would be processed, bought and sold just like orange juice. In a free society, tobacco would be cultivated, bought and sold just like any other crop. In a free society, there wouldn’t be [any] federally licensed gun dealers any more than there would be federally licensed car dealers. In a free society, explosives would be manufactured, bought, and sold just like chemicals that are potentially hazardous."

just posting this image to fit in

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>>42043536
This image fits squarely into the commerse clause and is therefore federally regulatable

Because among other reasons it's a class 1 narcotic, a dangerous controlled weapons and exceeds the allowable firepower limits for state-regulated ponies

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>>42043589
Lyra is a hell of a drug

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>>42043607
I tried her today for the first time.

I'm addicted to Pinky.

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>>42043640
I like Pinkie Pie. She is a good pony.

What drug would Pinkie be? Methamphetamine? Definitely a stimulant.

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>>42043642
I've never liked meth. She's not tweeky.

She's a dopamine reuptake inhibitor, my vote's crack cocaine.

Or maybe just really, really strong coffee mixed with good sex.

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>>42043644
meth is a dopamine reuptake inhibitor. also serotonin and norepinephrine. same as cocaine.

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....how nice

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>>42043648
tell me about your guns

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>>42043646

Well i only do coffee now, and only in the morning. I'll do pinky anytime.

>>42043649
Dont tell him nuthin
Issapolice

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>>42043651
coffee makes me piss so much and I crash really hard off caffeine so I don't have coffee often. ever try kratom? it's a relative of coffee apparently, I've got some of that. and weed, always weed, it's legal here. um much like guns should remain legal see look I'm on topic

Pinkie Pie is one of my favorite ponies

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>>42043654
Nah i didn't do that many things and i haven't done any of it since july 2012.

I'm addicted only to ponies now, and sex of course.

On topic, i really want a Red Hawk with wooden grips n 7 or 8 " barrel. I'll buy one when i have $1200 laying around.

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>>42043660
clop art is the logical synthesis of those things

I kinda want a gun but it's so much money for something I'll almost never use (hopefully?) and I don't even want it around if I get depressed.

my dad owns lots of guns but the only way I'm ever touching them again is a shit hits the fan scenario. he bought an american made AK recently.
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>>42043663
And sex in pony costumes, which i'm hoping to explore if i can get some partners lined up.

Oh right the topic. I like large caliber ammunition for my receiver.

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>>42043686
you'd like pony purist. wonder if he ever comes around here any more.

wow it took me way too long to get the 2nd part, I'm tired. why everyone a bottom lel
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>>42043693
Im a switch.

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>>42043714
do you have any idea how long I stared at that gif waiting for it to move

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>>42043536
Yeah those were that parts that make me call BS haha.

One guy says ATF is bad because the constitution dosnt specificly say we need it... So let DEA handle it... Which i hope you can see why thats contradictory.

Other guy is more dead on saying DEA shouldnt handle it because its not in the constitution ether, but fucks up by saying alcohol should be like orange juice (which absolutely is regulated by FDA) and guns like cars (which absolutely car dealers need licenced and cars are regulated items that require a licence and registration) so hes suggesting small brewers should be pushed around by FDA (which btw could do DEAs job haha) and your gun should be Registered???

Sounds like people pandering to people who drape there babys in a dont tread on me flag while introducing legislation they know wont pass with a loose grasp on how these agencys work.

Idk i could be wrong.

Also... Hi! Haha

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Finally got around to putting the Operator's manuals for the Bradley and M113 into binders. Those suckers are Thicc!

Also, here's some of my other armored vehicle related manuals and stuff.

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>>42043848
Thats an awesome looking collection. Good on ya for preserving history.

Im not 100% on it but that FM 7-7 looks an awful lot like what my grandfather commanded in wwii. We never really talked much though, one of my greatest regrets.

How many manuals do you have? Have any actual vehicals? Im friends with a few people in a historic military vehical club and they have some cool stuff man.

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>>42043952

I have a whole great load of manuals. Many from the cold war as well as more recent stuff.

FM 7-7 depicts an M113 APC. Which dates from the Vietnam era to the modern day. Though the hull shape does resemble a turret-less M4 Sherman. Mechanized infantry in WW2 typically used half-tracks.
There's an LMTV at work, I also sometimes deal with Humvees, CUCV's, M35's, Jeeps and occasionally piddle with tanks and aircraft at museums.

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>>42044030
Maybe that was it. Ill have to ask my uncle later today, im helping him weld some ar500 later this afternoon.

I keep seeing sweet deals on duce and a halfs and i want one really bad, but no place to keep it haha. I want to make it like a big rolling party deck though ^_^ park up on the beach, cast a line, start the grill kinda mobile.

A girl i know has one all original that she used as a daily driver for a while haha. Noooot the best choice but it was funny as hell.

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So which one of you was it this time?
You guys do it by lottery or someone just decides to go and do it by themselves?

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>>42044032

Nice thing about M35's is you can run them on used cooking oil which helps to take the sting out of the fuel economy. Of course there's no getting around the cost of the tires though.

>>42044066

It was Sam Hyde again. As always.

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>>42044066
sam hyde as usual
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>>42044067
Plus it smells like french fries while driving and that in of itself is worth it in my opinion haha.

Also i asked and he commanded an M7 artillery tank.

>>42044068
Hope i didnt come off too argumentative the other night. That was a good convo haha.
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>>42044093
nah you're fine. i just feel like government should be out of lives as much as humanly possible

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>>42044093

The M7 Priest is based on the M3 medium tank chassis fitted with a 105mm howitzer. It does resemble a M113 a bit. The suspension is the biggest give-away. The M7 has three vertical volute bogies per side whereas the M113 has torsion bar suspension with 5 road wheels per side.

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>>42044096
Yup! Thats the one. My uncle has a modle of one on his dashboard haha. I guess he was saying it was more for indirect fire. At least what my grandfather was ordered to do with it was haha.

>>42044095
I honesty agree haha. Though reading back through it i probably didnt come off that way. I think the fed government should back off because laws that work in maine might not be so good in florida and vise versa. But i do personally see value in SOME firearms regulations, but at the local level.

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>>42044100
the only part will i will budge with gun laws is background checks that we have today. that's it, really. and i do believe we should still be able to own full-auto. we were allowed to pretty much all throughout america's lifespan until 1986

that may sound crazy to some but it's what i believe

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>>42044102
Mm hmm. The Hughes amendment was the biggest BS that ever was... Thanks NRA haha.

Though i will say that full auto is the only NFA item that i get. Not really even thinking of it from a crime standpoint, but just thinking how many rounds would be put over the backstop haha. But again, i think that should be up to the state... I feel like thats a non issue in arizona haha.

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>>42044105
im just not the type of person to trust the state

because i certainly dont trust this one

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>>42044106
I feel like at the state level at least you're in a bit of control.

I might have a warped outlook on it because my statehouse is only like 20 min down the road so i can roll in and ask "dafuq??" At my leisure.

I think a government by the people for the people only works if the people get involved.

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A literal approximation of the political system in my area (0:28)

The Simpsons: Bart Vs Australia - Mr Prime Minister!!!

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>>42044100

Yaes, tanks and tank destroyers are typically used in the direct fire role, whereas self-propelled guns are typically use in the indirect fire role. Not always though, Tanks have been used for indirect fire and SPG's have been used for direct fire when needs must. Then there were vehicles like the T28/T95 which was classified as both a tank and an SPG.
On infantry vehicles the MG is typically used for direct fire and the grenade launcher for indirect fire. Though again the mounted MG can be used for indirect fire at long range.
In either case direct fire is used to suppress an enemy and indirect fire can be used to destroy him. The two types of fire work in concert to overcome the enemy just as fire and maneuver does.

Here is M113, presumably in Grenada. The Bradley replaced the M113 in Mechanized Infantry and Cavalry units ages ago but continues in use in Armor units to this day. It's replacement was announced a couple years ago:
https://breakingdefense.com/2016/12/tank-goodness-at-last-army-bae-roll-out-ampv-to-replace-56-year-old-m113/

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>>42044110
yeah, i wish more people would start interacting more with government. talk to them about things

that's their job to represent us

sadly it's kinda hard to talk to them

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>>42044115
Haha i love seeing stuff still in service for so long. "Gun on wheels" probably dosnt need to many revisions. If it aint broke dont fix it haha.

>>42044117
Yup it is. Esp since what we are seeking is less of them, but hey, too bad. They are servants of society, and while its still a free society we have to use our 1a to protect our 2a so it never becomes vice versa haha.
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I have a funny taurus sucks story from the weekend.
Someone brought me their PT1911 and apperently if you dry fired it and held the trigger down you couldnt run the slide. So of course i needed to see what would happen if i loaded it and held the trigger back. It cycled but i cant figure out why. Dont know if it just need oomph i cant provide by hand or if im not quite holding the trigger back as tight as i think i am. Played with the trigger over travel didnt change much. Ill prob keep playing with it haha.

Morel: dont buy taurus ^_^

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>>42044119
ouch sorry to hear that

ive heard stories about taurus

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>>42044120
Haha no problem, its not mine.

Taurus problems are endlessly entertaining.

Also when someone says thier haveing a problem with one, pointing at the taurus symbol and saying "theres your problem right there" never gets old :D

Edit: sometimes i think id rather have a hipoint haha
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>>42044123
Okay, im wayyyy out of the loop with this sam hyde thing.

Do tell please.

Edit: yup could just google it haha. I want my info hand delivered though! Makes it more aspecial!
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>>42044119

Also here's some pimped-out M113's that look an awful lot like M4 Shermans.

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>>42044125
Is there no limit to xzibit's talents?

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>>42044124
Alright i looked it up myself like some kind of heathen.

Its enjoyable.

Im such a normaly... Thats what the kids say right? normaly?
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>>42044124
>>42044145
yeah, the meme is when there's a happening going on the world perpetrated by someone people will say "the alleged suspect is sam hyde". then people would always comment "HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS".

it has gotten so bad at one point news reporters actually thought it really was sam hyde. even a congressmen thought the person who did was sam hyde like seen here >>42044123

the whole thing started on /pol/
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>>42044146
Hahaha. Its fantastic. Im upset im so tardy to the party.

>even a congressmen thought the person who did was sam hyde


Is why you should never fear the gubment haha

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>>42044147
yeah it's pretty silly

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>>42044148
Wasnt there a guy saying that hati was going to sink because to many people were on it? Haha

I mean when they said by the people i didnt think they ment THOSE people.

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>>42044148
Nope i was wrong it was guam
Its my favorite thing. This guy is my hero.

Guam will Capsize and Tip Over into the ocean Hank Johnson

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@mikie

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>>42044201
Oooo both symbols together

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>>42044203
Whats a Tokorov without a hint of communism? Am i right?
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>>42044209
Map table's first act was to crush commie village, subvert its leader to totalitarian pawn

(sorries mikie!)

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>>42044243
So my friend always thought i was weird for the pones.

But now she has a kid so she was telling me about how she thought RD was her favorite but now fluttershy is.

So i was telling her about how glim glam is actually the best pony and that she will find that out.

Pic related

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>>42044201
would actually own that if it were real

i would imagine trying to DIY would be a pain...

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>>42044263
You could just 3d print a set of grips. Probably electroplate the metals too if you wanted?

>>42044260
Omigosh i loved RD a lot til i saw the show. Love her losing a bet n getting forced anal in Banned From Equestria, hot. Hated twiggles too but my mostly-pony-hating irl gf smiling for the first time at Pinky made her my pony love.

Good timing too cuz Mikie just traded her up. Love the way dragon queen cant tell twiggy n glimmy apart.

Damn typos
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>>42044264
of yeah i forgot about 3D printing

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>>42044263
It wouldnt be that hard really.

I have an oven in my workshop just for doing cerekote and those colours are readily available.

Hardest part would be the cutie marks on the grips but that you could just rattle can on in layers then clear coat over it.

Plus cerekote would be a nice durable finish.

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>>42044264
Yeah i sent that ember vid in the next message haha

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>>42044267
ah, that doesnt seem too bad then

maybe it would be easier to have one else do it lol

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>>42044269
If you ever get a Tokorov, id be happy to make it glimmer.

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>>42044269
finally a goal worthy of getting out of depression and getting your life back mikie

maybe I can earn my keep working as slave labor in mk17's workshop, as long as I am forced to wear appropriate pony slave girl attire

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>>42044268
ember vid?

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>>42044276
oh right yes love it

I thought you meant our ponychan prince Ember, forgot that's a girl dragon name now

ba-ziing

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>>42044270
nice! that'd be neat

>>42044273
i would like to start my own business

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>>42044279
Nice!

Doing what?

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>>42044273
This is my desexing stick.

Im not using it yet, just letting you know i have it. Haha

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>>42044282
I don't think my gf is going to let me come out and play if she knows about that particular detail. She owns those parts.

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>>42044279
That would be so awesome!!

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>>42044513
Oh my o.o

No, its only ment to bring down the mood a bit, not to remove the reason for the season.

...Thats a completely different stick.

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>>42044516
Sticks are good! Inside or out

Just dont actually disable or remove anything she's gonna miss, short of that it sounds fun

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>>42044541
Always good to set some ground rules.

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>>42044582

rules shmools

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So back to the topic of firearms. I have stories!

Wednesday is my day to help out at the range. 2 gentlemen were shooting, a father and a son. Son had limited experience, father absolute zero, but the son said he could show him the ropes so, cool man have at it.

Im walking by and fathers about to shoot, both thumbs behind the slide, so i run up and tap him, ask him to keep it pointed down range and take his finger off the trigger and explain why that will result in a broken thumb. I remind the son that its his job to teach and i return to watching the range.

No sooner had i walked away, i look back and the father is tea cupping the gun with about an inch gap between his hand and the beaver tail of the gun, so i again go over and again need to remind him to keep it down range and take his finger off the trigger, explain WHY he needs to take his finger off the trigger, explain why his grip will result in the gun flying out of his hand and proceed to show him how to grip correctly.

I give it back and tell him to try it, and for reasons i dont understand and too fast for me to react, he takes a step back, lowers the gun, muzzle to my chest looks at the target and *click*
(Edit: I want to be clear that i dont think this was an act of malice, just clue and carelessness)
....
Luckly i did my job and unloaded and cleared the firearm before having him handle it further, or else id have an extra hole for lostpony right now.

I took the gun, re cleared it and took them both aside and basicly told them that they cant come back to the range without first scheduling some professional instruction. They were def upset and argued a bit but when i explained my perspective of "coulda been killed" i think they got it.

I feel bad and i really hope they do get some one on one time and learn the right way, i hope i didnt turn them off and i was as polite as i could be given the circumstance.
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On the upside a couple came later on with no experience but were absolute info sponges, listening, being safe and by the end of their time they were drilling out the center, having some friendly competition, we even tuched on speed and transitioning targets. They were awesome! I cant wait to see them come back.

Yin and yang i guess.
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Centerfire league night was tonight. I sucked :D but not the hardest, so net gain! I have to stop using a sub compact for 25yrd bullseye haha.

Also im happy to hear people starting to realize "nu-sig" is just fancy advertising for junk and the 320 and 365 are to be shuned haha.
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>>42044600
>thumbs behind the slide
I've done this for fun just to see what would happen.
Result: One failure to eject, slide was held in place by thumb. No damage to firearm. No detectable damage to thumb. Knowledge obtained of how to fire handgun without casing being ejected. ...you know, just in case such a requirement under certain circumstances ever arose.

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>>42044607
> ...you know, just in case such a requirement under certain circumstances ever arose.
If you were going to use a firearm to murder someone and you didn't want to leave evidence behind, you would be better off with a wheel gun.
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>>42044607
Orbits are funny joints. Your thumb can be soild as hell, its why its so important to grip, but have you ever "jammed" it by over extending it?

Basicly if your prepared for it and choose to do it, it can be done, but if your thumb is just there out of ignorance and your muscles are loose because focus is elsewhere, it going to get over extended.

Broken? You're right, probably not, depending on the situation. But over extended and black and blue, swollen, and hurting like a MF, that iv seen a bunch.

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>>42044600
>extra hole for lostpony
eeeeeeeeeks my evil plan
I dunno much but finger inside the guard drives me batty

Hey MK i have a .22 semiauto squirrel rifle, forget the make, little bottom-loading magazine. Came to me with trigger problem turned out to be needs disconnector spring which was missing, i got one but haven't installed cuz ran into second problem with cycling. When round comes up it doesn't point into the chamber so ends up jamming at funny angle or ejecting, and i can't find any parts bent or missing to explain why and i'm stumped. Seems like it's supposed to point correctly on blind faith or something.

Any ideas? Wouldn't be related to not having disconnector spring in there yet right? maybe you need more info, i cud dig it out of closet n get model# or make video or something.
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got to play with Britgat 2: this time it's personal over the last few days innawoods. dat foregrip bipod is unironically fantastic

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I'm curious, how many of you actually watch NRA tv?

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>>42044639

They're neat, until one of the legs breaks off.

>>42044640

I watch Colion Noir's channel on Youtube. Don't watch TV though.

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>>42044640
I haven't. Nra seems fulla shit to me, tho i was a member for a few years in the 90s

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>>42044640
My local cable company doesn't carry NRA TV but does have two sporting channels that do advertise and support the NRA.

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>>42044634
Im not a gunsmith but i wouldnt suspect the spring would affect anything but the trigger.

If it feeds from a box mag id say feeding issues would be the mag, ether feedlips bent just a bit or spring/follower problem. But if you can give me make and model i could prob do more research. I wanna guess its a marlin 70 or 795... Based on nothing haha thats just what im picturing.

>>42044639
The gun so nice they designed it twice!

>>42044640
I also watch Colion Noir on youtube but dont own a TV. I probably wouldnt watch it even if I did unless they have coverage of like camp fogarty and stuff. Not a huge fan of the NRA honesty.

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>>42044648
Marlin might be right, i did know but forgot. I forgot it feeds from a tube below the barrel not seperate mag.

Maybe i pull it out 2nite and goof around with it, check model n make vid of what its doing.

Funny the dummyloads cost way more than real ammo, ha but since it doesnt chamber i figured worth a couple bux for fake ammo

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>>42044650
Sounds like a marlin 60 if its a tube mag. Does it have a literal squirrel carved into the stock?

I have one i cant get to feed well ether. They can be finicky when they get old. There is a little lifty-ma-jig thats like 2 little feed lip blocks that are kinda wonky and hard to get running right. (Those are all scientific terms btw).

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>>42044652
Thats really sounding right. It does have the squirrel!

There really doesn't seem to be any kinda discrete doohicky or twiddlewampus that actually steers the round into the chamber as it comes up that i can see. It seems to sorta rely on just resting at the right angle as it comes up and something subtle seems to send them torqueyoosnorfulous before they start getting pushed forward.

Technically speaking if course.

Maybe a vid of its fouled operation will help you make some kinda suggestion. As my entire arsenal i'd like it to work.

When i get a red hawk i want to name it Moose to go with Squirrel

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>>42044640
I've seen a single episode with Colin Noir and then never watched it again.

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>>42044653
Hokay so.

See that little black piece dead center pointing at the feed ramp? Thats the cartridge elevator, thats the lifty piece i was talking about. Thats the part im having trouble with. When you pull the bolt back you should see that pop up.

If you have a snap cap put one in the mag with the bolt closed then pull the bolt back and see if it pops up then let the bolt go, if it feeds in then that is probably fine. Dont use live ammo.

Next thing to check is the ejector, because if the round feeds okay but the next one wont, it may not be ejecting properly and causing the next round to not feed. The ejector is that little piece of wire that starts from the bottom right and comes up over the feed block. That is a comon problem because they get bent, you can use the width of a nickle to measure and make sure its sticking up far enough.

You can take the action out by removing the screw mid way down the stock and the screw behind the trigger guard, both should be flat head screws, be careful though because the recoil spring behind the bolt can shoot across the room if you take it apart farther than that.

Most of my problems are from the guy who had it before me packing the action with grease which was the fudd thing to do and is comon on older guns so a good cleaning with gun scrubber and polishing the feed ramp with 000 steal wool and simple gun oil wont hurt ether.

If yours dosnt look like this then its probably not a marlin 60 and if thats the case sell it and just buy a 1022 because all other old .22lr rifles are a pain in the ass and WAY over complicated haha.

Hope that helps!

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>>42044678
It looks kinda like that but i'll pull it out n look closer 2nites

Its not feeding the first one, and i think ejects out the right side i'll get more info 2nite thx bud.

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>>42044678

Ok i had a reeely close looky at what is indeed a marlin 60.

My vocab might be a bit off so pls bear with me. I'm a revolver guy.

What happens is the previous dummy round (presumed fired casing) does eject fine and as the action? comes foreward (manually closing the breach with the bolt lever) the next round is pressed upwards by the cartridge elevator but is held by some lip from raising until the little dent with the extractors comes into alignment, at which point the error occurs.

The round should snap affirmatively up into that little dent and be held in place by the extractors, and looks like it would do so except the elevator is pushing up the foreward end of the round faster than the rear, so it misses its little holder place and goes wonky. If i place a finger just ahead of the action as it comes forward, the rear is snapped into place and i can remove the finger and let it close, properly chambering.

I don't recall the anatomy in there well enough to know if the as-yet-still-missing disconnector spring might have any influence on the angle the elevator raises at. If so maybe just putting it in is sufficient. If not, whatever controls that angle is the source of the problem.

I dont think its any deficiency in the various little lips along there because it takes so little contact pressure from the finger to keep it from going wonky and missing its little spot with the extractors. But i dunno.

Heres what it looks like just after the finger helps it go right. Not that it's helpful, but the dummy rounds shore are purty aint they.

I'd like this thing to work, isso sweet with its little scope and its clean furniture is so slim and trim to hold.

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>>42044678
I tried to get a video, not easy holding gun n stupidfone n easing bolt forward but here it is:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DHvp6iiILYMf_8zVdPy2-G1HAJSlNqpc/view?usp=drivesdk

Pic is just before it happens

Dangit i lost two of my dummies, 3 left now ha.
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>>42044700
Hmm. Im not sure if the rim is suppose to be captured by the extractors until chambered to be honest, ill look at one i know for sure works when i get a chance (probably tomorrow) and see what it do.

By your pictures it looks like you have quite a bit of carbon build up on the bolt face, which could cause malfunctions, esp if that little rim IS suppose to be seated in the extractors when lifted.

So a good cleaning would be a great place to start trouble shooting. They are pretty simple to take apart and maintain which is why they were so popular in the first place. Then ol' Billy Ruger came along with his fancy smanshy rotary magazine with integrated feed ramp and changed everything.

He may have supported AWBs but damn he could design some reliable actions.

Edit: You're right! i just went and played with mine a little and sure enough, bolt comes back, starts to lift on the way forward, there is a *click* and it seats right in. This is the closest iv ever looked at this action tbh haha.
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Soon!

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>>42044778
S'upper time!

Looks good +3 for fixed front site!

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>>42044779

Ya, doing a Mk.12 mod.0/1 style build this time.

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>>42044733
I didn't wanna clean it in case there was any kinda visible indicators in the muck that might tell something.

Don't spose you can make a vid of that seating into the extractor so i can see at exactly which place along there it's sposed to happen? Maybe theres no substitute for seeing one in person. I don't wanna go and make it worse screwing around.

Edit: oh yeah, thanks buddy! One step closer to being shooty again.
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>>42044782
Thats gonna be sweet, i have a friend that does all the MK mods. Always come out pretty sweet. What are you thinking for glass?

>>42044786
Scrub it down! haha. It might clear some things up. I should be thanking you! Id have forgotten i even had mine (cant say no to $25 rifle haha) and now i think i got it running (it was the ejector i think). I only have live ammo but ill prob be at the range tomorrow so i can prob take a vid then.

(Btw the vid you posted just said "unexpected error" which i guess was what the vid about haha)

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>>42044822
Ha! Thats awesome. Iv always said that the Kriss is the modern day thompson.

Wood is sexy

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>>42044825
That pic doesn't show the knob that goes to 11.

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>>42044826
Hahahaha wait.

I just took another look at your pic.

Whats that 2nd barrel and is that a flare launcher? Haha.

.50 break. Need that

Just saw the wood stock and got all squee.

Thats... Thats something else.
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>>42044838
>>42044840
here's a higher resolution pic

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>>42044841
Ohhhhh haha. Okay if its from a game its sillyness goes down and cool factor up a bit :D

I want a DP12 so i can make the super shotgun from quake 2. Also, there has to be a way to make a sub2k into the laptop gun from perfect dark haha.

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>>42044845
It's from Deadpool 2. Good movie, go watch.

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Been thinkin about gettin a bump stock. Theyre gonna be worth twice their weight in gold. Better than investing in crypto

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>>42044803

Probably gonna use either my Vortex Strike Eagle or Leupold Vari-X 2-7x28.

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>>42044846
Yup, i have to get on that haha. I didnt see the last deadpool till just a month or 2 ago, shouldnt have waited haha.

>>42044847
I dont know of anywhere that has banned them where there was a grandfather clause... Chances are you'll be buying a $500 piece of plastic thats only good to make you a felon overnight haha.

>>42044852
Im a huge lupold fanboy the vortex stuff is really nice though. If those are the choices you cant go wrong.

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>>42044860
Ima sell bump stocks to sad teenagers and make a fortune, watch me

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Happy Memorial day.

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could have sworn i remember seeing tantal's selling for much cheaper than they are

oh well

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>>42045147
AK's are no longer as cheap as anyone would want or expect, and AK's in 5.45 are especially not a good value because the good magazines are used surplus and expensive, generally speaking. This is only looking at the startup cost of the rifle and the magazines, and totally ignoring the cost of ammo.

I quite enjoy the price of 7.62x39, which I assume is roughly the same price as 5.45, but I haven't looked, because sold my '74 a long time ago.
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>>42045147
Yeah huh? They jumped quite a bit. Considering we live in the world of the $350 mosin im not surprised though haha.

>>42045149
Exactly this. Im not a fan of the ak platform but i always figured if i was to try, it would be in 5.45.
But the ammo is rear now since the embargo and expensive. 7.62 is cheaper for quality, there is still some spam cans of 5.45 floating around but you pay almost as much as 7.62 and have a corrosive primer. Forget brass cased. (On average, Random wildcard deals might still be around)

For the money you could buy an ar and feed it all day.

(Though if a nice AWB era Maddi in 7.62 appeared before me it would be hard to say no)

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I like my SLR-107, though, and I will most likely get another of the same kind.

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>>42045149
>>42045152
yeah, at this rate it seems they're not even worth looking at anymore

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>>42045161
Only you can decide if its worth it.

Iv over paid for stuff just because i reeeeealy wanted it haha

>>42045155
Nice! I like that they are clean and streamlined.
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!-PSA-!

Remember to always clear your chamber!

These little dudes were in everything today and id have felt bad if i had sent the bolt home on one.

Not to mention the mess...

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>>42045199
Stand back or the caterpillar will shoot!

Even bugs know to keep their finger out of the guard.

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>>42045264
I didnt forget about you! I just had a crazy busy weekend.

Here are some vids of the marlin 60 loading. I hope they are what you were looking for.

Marl60 action for LP1

Marl60 action for LP2

Marl60 action for LP3

Marl60 action for LP4

Sorry it took so long.

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>>42045277
Mmm sexxy

Thanks!

Comparing your vids to mine, there is definitely something different. Your bolt doesn't push the round forward as it advances and mine does...the bolt must be snagging on the round or something, it's a different direction than i was thinking of so this is most helpful!

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What do UK people think of the TV show SWAT?

I know heavily-armed cops aren't totally unknown over there, since I watched the entire run of Spooks when I was bored. (Why the hell didn't Hugh Laurie get more appearances? Hearing his natural accent is a rare treat).

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>>42045289
Yeah like i said, these actions are notorious for being a bit finicky.

The barrels are really nice though. Micro groove technology! (You have to say that with an echo)

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>>42045298
Yeah the barrel is as sweet as the stock. I wonder if the range is actually up to having a scope but it sure makes it look serious!

Kinda wish it was just bolt action tho, but them we'd probably not have them fall into our hands so cheap. I think mine was like $60 and the buddy i got it from kept wanting it back and i said No.

Not every Marlin 60 owner gets to have the little squirrel on the stock. I love it! I wont be shooting at any, unless...ha maybe print up some squirrel silhouettes for the range.

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>>42045321
The leafy detail is really sweet too.

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>>42045321
The squirrel stock is a bit more sought after so its worth a little more. If its running right and in good shape could prob squeeze $120ish out of it.

You can get into a savage mkii bolt for ~200 and they are tack drivers. With cci standard i can squeeze .75" @100 with mine.

A good 3 or 4x scope is always applicable on a .22lr.

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>>42045329
lostpony can trade sexual favors for education, please help reform his ignorance

what are:
a savage mkii bolt : is this different weapon, or part I can use in my Squirrel?

tack drivers.

cci standard

.75" @100 : is this grouping at 100 yds? if so what is 200 yds like, still possible or...?

many thanks for any edumacation

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>>42045332
Oooo i better start teaching then.

>Savage MKII

https://savagearms.com/firearms/model/MARKIIF

>tack driver

Slang for accurate rifle

>cci standard

.22lr ammunition known for reliability and consistent velocity

>.75" @100

Yup! Spot on. 200 is certainly possable but its getting to the far end of what the .22lr is capable of. I shoot out to 300 sometimes but it gets spotty after that. With more skill and better equipment its possable but it also depends on what target you're using and what your acceptable group is. But generally .22lr is thought of as a 25-75yrd round.
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>>42045346
a lost pony likes where this is going.

what sort of grouping/range do you expect out of the Marlin?

That MKII looks awfully serious for a .22lr.

My buddy has a .22mag. Know anything about these?

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>>42045350
My marlin has always grouped pretty good.

Honestly the hype they built up about the Micro Groove Rifling (again, said in a booming echo voice) wasnt all just advertising.

Iv never shot mine past 25yrds tbh but they were all in a dime size group at that distance when shooting from the bench with open sights. I wouldnt be suprised if you could maintain an inch or less out to 75, if you do your part.

A bolt action will maintain better accuracy for the round because your not using the gas blow back to cycle the action which means more energy to push the projectile, and the savage has a much MUCH nicer trigger than the marlin which will allow you the shooter to be more accurate.

Iv never had a .22mag because its too expencive for the return on power and reliability. It costs as much as 9mm and its none of the proformance. It has its place as a med game hunting round if the law prohibits the use of a centerfire, but even then id choose .17hmr or .17WSM. As a target round its the same story, too expencive with not enough advantage over .22lr for me to really look at it. Its the red headed step child between .22lr and .223 rem / 5.56x45mm haha.

Its still neat and fun though, just not to my tastes.
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>>42043440
>In what way is the ATF unconstitutional?
You tell me, fuckbucket.

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>>42045355
>fuckbucket
I still havent gotten my parents to explain why they named me that, but it has lead to some interesting opportunitys.

Is that pic suppose to be your argument? Or an explanation of some sort? If so id choose another.

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>>42045360
i think the most simple way to put it is this

the ATF simply infringes the right. sometimes they even create rules that only congress should be doing (and even they shouldnt touch this right).

it's still a clear infringement which means to wrongly limit or restrict

so really, the only thing it should be called is the "AT" whereas they're only constitutionally allowed to make rules involving alcohol and tobacco

idk, i view the ATF like the federal reserve in a way. just a crony thing that exists just because garbage politicians thinks it's okay because it keeps people "safer"
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I wish my name was fuckbucket, that's a cool name.

"What's your name?"
"Fuckbucket... sir."

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man, i wish GA would post again in these threads

too bad he decided to just "quit" for whatever reason

isn't the same without him

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>>42045362
I wont argue that they havent been directed to do some dumb shit, but the existence of a law enforcment agency in of itself isnt unconstitutional.

Most of ATFs "rulings" are in the form of opinion letters, as in, its ATFs opinion that a sig brace isnt a stock.

So basicly they are saying, "we dont think a judge will send you to jail for that, but a case hasnt been to court for us to say for sure".

To my knowledge they have never created a law out of thin air, but id like to know if there is a case that im missing.

By anons own pic it says "wrongfully limit or restrict" which means there can be limits and restrictions as in the case of a felon loosing their rights. So having a federal law enforcment agency to enforce federal law is not unconstitutional.

The laws themselves are a completely different discussion.

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>>42045363
I know right? Its defiantly a conversation starter!

>>42045365
I like having these convos, so if im missing out by the absence of him/her i feel bad too.

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>>42045366
honestly these days the ATF are good for jokes

>pic related


>>42045367
he was another firearm enthusiast

guess he just got bored

what can i do?

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>>42045368
Hunt him down and bring him back.

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>>42045372
nah, he made his choice

i will respect that

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>>42045368
Ah, yeah i guess its easy to fade in and out of internet communitys. All it takes is an irl distraction.

Also, yes, the meme potential of the atf def outweighs any misgivings haha.
https://defendwaifu.com/no-fun-allowed-atf

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You guys have seen gunsmith cats right?

Gunsmith Cats (1)

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>>42045387
yeah, I was always disappointed that they aren't actually cats

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>>42045387
ATF leaks are unconstitutional

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>>42045388
They are for that one second in the opening creds haha.

But YEAH! Dude, they should be like... The SWAT Kats.

>>42045389
Ill agree with that :D

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>>42045389
>ATF leaks

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>>42045394
Omigosh i need mikie's laughing Starlights image rn

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>>42045394
>ATF leaks

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>>42045430
You win this one...


Haha

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>>42045430
seems to have a screw loose

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>>42045460
They really should re name the A10 from thunderbolt to Phoenix because that plane cant be killed.

Not physically or legislatively haha.

Its the best airplane in the world.

... For its mission.

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>>42045463
>>42045460

I first saw this plane on a calendar I had in the 80s as a kid. I loved its lines and its perfect design for subsonic ground assault, from the elevated/setback engines protected by the wings to the excessive wing surface area to tolerate massive damage and remain functional (much like the elegance of B-17 for the application) to its generous weapons capacity. When I heard this plane was to be phased out, replaced by NOTHING, it seemed the crazy-stupidest military decision I've ever heard of (aside from orders to engage in wrong places anyway).

I'm glad it will live on, and I think many ground-pounders probably also rejoice at the news.

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Waiting for gun parts to arrive is hard.

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>>42045469
oooo watcha waiting on?

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>>42045470

Basically everything to build a pseudo Mk.12.

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>>42045471

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-KJPP7GkuPU

I know how you feel. I just ordered a cmmg .22lr conversion for pic related. Also a bulk ammo buy that will (hopefully) see me through summer. Will take about a week but

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3Azz-6oT08c
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>>42045471
Noice.

Its going to require some assembly? Why, that's just required caressing.

>>42045474
Waaaa.


Hope all the goodies arrive soon. I hate waiting for shipping.

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>>42045499

Ya, gonna have to assemble the upper and mill and assemble another 80% lower.

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Building my AR has got me wanting to customize my other guns now too.

I'm debating on getting a skeletonized hammer for my M9. Maybe a G conversion kit but I'm not sure on it yet.

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>>42045570
If its not a gun you carry or use for HD the 92fs is awesome to customize!

Get a wilson combat D-spring, makes the double action trigger pull freaking amazing.

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>>42045573
I do use it for HD. Still though a lighter trigger pull would make the DA better. The hammer just looks cool.

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>>42045595
Just be careful because idk about in your area, but case law in mine has been pretty successful in prosicutiing againts a modified gun in a self defence case... Or at least using it as part of the overall argument.

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>>42045597
Michigan. I'll probably be fine.
They just passed a law to allow teachers to carry guns.

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If you guys have the chance, take somepony who never has been shooting.

Dont put a 12ga or a .44mag in there hands for a laugh, but a .22 or .223 or even a 9mm.

Let them see what is actually going on.

Its the only way to show people. I feel like most anti gun folks are only that way because its a scary unknown, once they try it, things are put into perspective.

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I've done it a couple of time. It's loads of fun. They either accept and learn something, or have no idea how to refuse without being willfully ignorant and get super flustered.

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>>42045601
I took my gf's son to the pistol range that rents guns as a birthday gift for his first time when he was like 17 or something and we had a blasting shooting whatever he wanted. He liked the Glock 10mm and didn't mind my fave the 44mag.

Where's that vid with the winchester 500 that hits the shooter on the top of the head, everypony's seen that one right? Hee-larious.


(On other notes, today i got a perfect Lyra-colored dress. It should slip right over my Celestia tutu so i can be your Lyra if you like, winky-wink.)

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>>42045629
Ill keep that in mind.

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>>42045637
less enthusiastic than i'd hoped, but not a No either so a lost pony happy.

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>>42045695
Im not NOT excited haha. I just feel like its going to get ruined when torn off haha.

Fred Astaire ~ The Way You Look Tonight

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>>42045752

>smitten

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>>42045810
If this turns out with you like making a onesi out of my skin or something im gonna be a little peeved.

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>>42045857
Nonsense, darling.

I want you to wear me.

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Ahem

So yeah guns haha.

Guys i looooove .22 not just .22 but the whole 20cal spectrum.

.22lr .223 .270win .22-250 5.7mm .22TCM NOT .25ACP but 6.5 creedmoor and 6.5 grendel.

Good in a long gun, good in a handgun, Low cost, low recoil, low wear and tear, easy to carry and store. Its the best!

Whats your favorite?

Edit: omigosh i forgot .243 thats a great one too!
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>>42045945

Gosh i dunno anything bout all those 20 calibers other than i remember .22lr as the childhood plinker. Can't argue with the economy and efficiency of .22lr and in a survival situation it'd be the thing to have for getting food.

I really like recoil, makes me feel alive. My favorite thing ever is a Ruger Red Hawk 44 mag with longer barrel and wooden grips. I love its lines and the way its mass sits back into my hand when it barks. Defintely getting one someday.

Then of course the classic power n beauty of M1 Garand. It's excellent and unless things have changed recently, we can still each be issued one each by the government to maintain invasion-resistant armed citizenry. It's a battlefield-proven symbol of our spirit of freedom.

Can't argue with the supreme power on target of 50 cal, but i have no idea which one i'd want cuz i've never held one let alone fired any. Gotta do that one of these days.

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>>42046094
Id go as far as to say 22lr is my favorite round surely.

50 is fun to shoot... once haha but thats subjective for sure. Just if your near one, try to stand behind it because the pressure tends to be vented back to the sides and it hurts.

I hate loud noises and recoil haha which is hard in this sport, but i know people who love it, even like 70 year old ladies that love the .44 haha. I will say that a 308 out of a single shot handgun was so much fun i almost spent 500 just to be able to do it whenever i wanted haha. Glad i slept on it. Also spike had one in bebop, but thats still not worth 500 in the end haha.

The m1 is in .30-06 and some navy ones are in .308.
The Civilian Marksmanship Program just got a bunch of M1s in from the Philippines and i think they are going for like 650ish in "good" condition which is half of its value. Not sure but i think you still need to be in a CMP affiliated club to get one though.

Red hawks are awesome. Rugged as hell too.

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>>42046130
I see that big grin.

Yes still gotta go gun club for Garand. I qualified in 95 and glad i didn't buy mine then cuz it's once a lifetime issue and i lost everything in 2010.

Soon as i'm comfortably stable i going again. Oh gee look wut i found

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>>42046144
Im just a big nerd about ammunition haha.

I thought you could do more than one through this program, but there is a limit like 5.

Pic saved! Thanks!

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>>42046157
In 95 it was limit 1

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>>42046190
Damn, its actually 8 per year per person haha. Get em while there hot.

http://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/rifle_sales/m1-garand/

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>>42046194
Damn they were $250 in 95.

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>>42046202
Inflation is a beach.

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>>42046202
Seeing how much those Chinese AK's sold for in the 80's makes me want to cry.

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>>42046208
I bought my mosin in 2011 for 65 bucks. Sold it in 2016 for 365.

And i kept the ammo pouch and oil can haha.

Now i think they are going around 200ish. Crazy market when politics makes such an impact.

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>>42046208

Pretty much everything but AR's have inflated to a redunk degree since the 90's.

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Talk about thinking outside the box!

Take a rocket launcher. Build a drone around it. Test it.

There's no linked story to this specific image, but there are plenty of youtube vids on Russian experiments of a similar nature.

WATCH: NEW RUSSIAN ROCKET LAUNCHING FLAMETHROWING TANK KILLER DRONE

Russian combat drone footage: Military anti-tank multicopter in action

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*Heavy breathing.*

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>>42046251
If we were racing we tied! Haha

The fun has been doubled!

>pic related
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Whoever translated this manga needs to stop.
Cock the Hammer

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>>42046256

I've still got a few other things coming yet,
The tungsten buffer weights should be arriving tomorrow and the SOPMOD buttstock friday.
Also not sure I like the el-cheapo M-lok handguard I got, the barrel nut seems kinda dubious, might not be able to torque it properly.

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>>42046259
Isnt that the one about the pirates and the sad business man?

>>42046260
Its like Christmas!
Ah its a free float? Iv never come across one that dosnt work, just ones that work better than others.

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>>42046263
Yes. It's Black Lagoon.

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>>42046263
My hoofs what have you done with my lovely hoooooofs


Im not afraid to use this

Edit
[SFM] RainbowDance (10 Minute Loop)
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>>42046269
Yup! Thats the one. I saw the anime a while back on youtube and forgot the name. I remembered this beretta though.

Didnt even know there was a manga of it. Ill have to look into it.

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Welp, I found a MAK-90 parts kit for 600 bucks on an internet location which I will not disclose.

I am so tempted to buy it. So fucking tempted.

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Mk.12 barrel and tungsten buffer weights arrived. already got the weights installed, starting at H2 and maybe go up to H3 if it cycles properly. Gonna install the Mk.12 Bbl this weekend and probably going to put the Colt 20" Bbl on my A4gery eventually.

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>>42046514
If you have the means, and want it, id say go for it.

I remember when you could get vz 61/64 (the klobb haha) pistols and parts kits for basicly nothing and i never picked one up. Now, they've gone up and i cant afford it haha. I fear that, and the benelli 121, are museum pieces ill never own.

>>42046515
Looks good man! I love the fixed flip up. I need hk sights bad, but troy wants all the money for the tritium. That forend does look pretty thin haha. Just remember its not cheap its "light weight" :D

That 20" an HBAR?
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I put near 1000 rnds through that little ar .22lr conversion kit i got so far, and its been amazing. Only a hand full of hiccups, mostly when it was still working in. Tried a bunch of different brands/gr weights in it from whitebox garbage, to velocitors and lapua stuff. Ate it all. Keeps a great group too. Nothing crazy but hey, it dosnt belong in that barrel or twist rate. 1:7 is a wee fast for lr haha

Super happy with it, everyone who has tried it gets a huge smile.
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>>42046523
>remember its not cheap its "light weight"

Lightweight is what I was going for. I'm doing a Mk.12-style build because it's a good compromise between rifle and carbine. I chose that handguard cuz it only weighs 14.2oz. Only way to go lighter would be carbon fiber which I might do later.

>That 20" an HBAR?

Nah, just a regular government profile.

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>>42046548
ALG's EMR seems bretty good for that purpose, too. Next budget build I make, I'd probably put one of these on.

https://algdefense.com/ergonomic-modular-rail-v1-m-lok.html

https://algdefense.com/ergonomic-modular-rail-emr-v3-m-lok.html
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>>42046548
Yeah at the end of the day its juat a metal tube with holes in it. A company would have to try pretty hard to mess that up haha. I like my HERA just because i like full rails and the look. I hate my diamond head because its too proprietary.

Tbh i even saw a VISM (ncstar) 2 piece drop in aluminum mlok the other day and was pretty impressed.

>>42046560
Oh im defiantly keeping that in mind next time I need to build an upper. If for nothing else they seem like a cool small business.

I just need to choose between .450 thumper and .458socom now. It'll probably be 6.5.

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https://www.cncguns.com/projects/beretta92fs.html

I envy the people who have access to CNC machines. This is cool.

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Went to the LGS for some match ammo and they had one whole box left.

Guess I need to lurk harder next week.

Also, after much distress and soul-searching I decided against using the M-lok handguard with the non-standard barrel nut and ordered one that fits and armorer's wrench. It also more closely resembles the handguard on the Mk.12 Mod 0 so that's nice.
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>>42043000
What caliber can i trust to penetrate a human skull and not survive?

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>>42047170
Depends on the skull. For Trump, nothing smaller than 30mm depleted uranium rounds are passing through that cranial bone.

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>>42047170
12 gauge slug is your best bet for something cheap.

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>>42046523
I was under the impression that the MAK-90 shared the same 1mm receiver that the Polish/Romanian/Russian etc kits did. The Ching-Chong AK receivers are 1.5mm and no one makes a receiver that you could just match a kit without any modifications. I'm just not going to do it.

If you're interested in building guns from any kind of kit, this website that I did not previously specify looks to be all right.

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>>42047170
In all fairness your question is in the wrong place.

What you want is this. Basic rock hammer. With the single point, not the masonry hammer with the flat point. Guaranteed performance.

You didn't hear this from me, and enjoy your endeavor.

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>>42046776
>Went to the LGS for some match ammo
Wow, how much dust was on that box? Haha. I dont know what its like where you are, but around here most people buy match grade stuff online or reload, unless its an emergency, so the stores only keep a box or two, unless ammo is thier thang.
Do you like, shoot hipower or something? Or just enjoy punching a hole right where you want it? ^_^

>decided against using the M-lok handguard with the non-standard barrel nut


Probably the right choice. Buy once, cry once haha.

Have you seen the wwsd series on inrange? Its got some good ideas if you like light weight.

>>42047242
I had no idea ether, i figured the maks were pretty standard. That platform (ak) isnt one i know the finer nuances of haha. Id want an AWB MAK simply for the historic value.

>If you're interested in building

I am kinda! I want to learn button rifling really bad. The barrel, bolt and the chamber is what i really want to learn. There is an old smith that im always in his shop trying to get him to learn me something haha.
He is wicked mean sometimes but in a way thats so goofy, i cant help but laugh. Looong arguments about whether or not night sights are worth it... Total wealth of knowladge though!
Hes just the LGS guy who expects you to already know everything haha.
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>>42047451

None, somebody else just cleaned it all out before me. I mean they did still have a bunch of 52gr match but I require 77gr stuff.
>Or just enjoy punching a hole right where you want it? ^_^
Yaes.

>Have you seen the wwsd series on inrange?

A bit.

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>>42047482
Its sooo pretty!
>None, somebody else just cleaned it all out before me.
3 gun is the big thing around here so it all bulk stuff in stores... Long range is coming back though, 300yd is the longest we have around though.

>77gr

For .223 thats what i ran too! I had a windham vex with the compass lake chamber and matching bolt, thing was a lazer!
>Pic related
I had to give it up when i hit a life bump though haha. Cant always say "its an investment" and not sell when needed right? Haha

You can buy just the barrel and bolt from them now, threaded too, i kinda wanna go up and ask them if they will do a 16" version for me... I know it sounds dumb haha but i think the 16" would work better for my needs.

A good CF bolt gun is like my final must have. I love savage but id really like to find a pre FG 700 action. I had one in .30-06 but i let it go for a savage 220. Which i guess is still a bolt gun but in 20ga haha.
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>>42047489

I've got a few bolt guns kicking around. I tried to sell my left-handed Savage Model 10 tactical about a year ago but nobody wanted it cuz left handed. Pretty sure that's racist.

I haven't really done much long-range shooting in many moons, it's something that I'm getting back into.

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>>42047529
Iv had 2 mkii's from savage, a FV heavy barrel, and an FV 'tactical' that i run now. 1" @100 prone, i have no complaints. Thats def minute of squirrel haha. The 220 can keep them in 4" at 200 with KOs, which is honestly insaine to me. I also had a hog hunter in .223 that i regret letting go but i sold that to get the VEX haha.

Now i have neither hooray!

Try tossing it up on armslist. Just do an ffl transfer to keep it on the up and up. (I hear there are some weiiiiird people on them innerwebs haha)

Someone is bound to be looking for one.

>Pretty sure that's racist.

Hahaha. Put that in the ad. "Dont be handist"
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>>42047529
I'm a leftie.

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>>42047555
The roo has changed. Also, that was a bone-head move.

https://m.ranker.com/list/2002-bonnaroo-lineup/music-festival-line-ups

>>42047557
I read that and thought you were trolling until i read the context haha /)_(\
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>>42047562

would have loved to see Amon Tobin

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>>42047567
Dude! yes!

I feel like I havent heard them in forever!

That must have been an amazing show to see at a festi!

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>>42047569

I really want to go to another concert

but nothing has really worked out so far

I get email updates from various venues about upcoming shows

it's all either artists I don't care about, or too expensive ;_;

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>>42047557

But you're also a Canuckistani.

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>>42047571
>>42047571
I could get my PAL lol.

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Almost finished.

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>>42047848
That's pretty sexy.

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>>42047848
Dude very nice! I like the forend choice. What trigger is that? B5 stock?

Also, did anyone notice the kit starlight was lugging around that last ep was basicly the local army/navy stores Russian Mil-Surp blow out sale? Haha

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>>42047956

It's pretty decent handguard, though a little on the heavy side, had to cut about 1/8" off the end to clear the FSB. Is a Cedar Enterprises two-stage trigger with KNS anti-rotation pins and a J&E Enterprises Enhanced SOPMOD stock. Same thing as the B5 but about half the price.

Gave it a paint-job today. Tomorrow I'll bore sight it and hopefully sight it in this weekend.

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>>42047988
I dont understand, thats just a pic of leaves.

Looks really good!

Rattle can is the way to go haha.

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So I know some of you guys are history buffs, so I thought you might get a kick out of this.

Its a 1915 artillery luger. The guy had a full historical restoration on it using period correct possesses. So its "original" still by museum stanadards.
All the original springs, the grips, and the firing pin were removed but kept. So its shootable without wanting to cry every time you pull the trigger haha.

The stock/holster is a full reproduction using the same processes.

Not really my cup of tea, but the gentleman who owns it its beside himself. Hes been waiting over a year to get it back. Really cool to handle something so historically significant though, I can definitely appreciate that.

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>>42048194
omigosh what a thing so cool

I never knew it had the drum clip or the stock and I thought they were from much later.

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>>42048222

The snail magazine holds 32 rounds and was also used in the MP-18 SMG.

>>42048194

Neat!

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>>42048222
>>42048232
And its a real pain in the butt to load haha.

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>>42048266
Thats why you're sposed to make the snails load it for you, it's right in the name

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>>42048286
Ohhhh like in plants vs zombies. Those Germans think of everything!
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Well this sucks to wake up to.
The End of EnglishShooting

This dude had one of my favorite gun channels on youtube. It was sensible and relaxed, and its a hobby of mine to keep up with other countrys gun communities and laws, esp the UK.

Thats his farewell video because i guess he expressed some wrong think, and because of OTHER peoples comments on his videos, the police revoked his firearms licenses.

I cant imagine what "extremist opinions" he expressed in his videos because dude was wicked reserved. I think his "extremist opinions" were that more people should check out the sport and know the laws.

Sorry for the rant but man, I really enjoyed that channel, it always gave me good info and something to talk about with my UK friends.

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>>42048292
dam i'm sorry m8.
>does what he's told
>constitutes "deceitfulness"

Looks like all the brits have left is alyoominium

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>>42048292
>British subject gets his guns taken away for saying things.
This is all I have to say about this.
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>>42048317
Thats a pdf that i cant dl but i read the file name.

Is it something to do with this?
Weapons as Political Protest: P.A. Luty's Submachine Gun

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>>42048358
Your web browser must not be .pdf read enabled. The book opened perfectly in Firefox for me.

And yes, that's what the book is about. It's just as well you don't have it given the state of the police state you live in now. Some people still think 1984 was a cautionary tale. Your government used it as an instruction manual.

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>>42048360
Nuts to that noise, i live in 'murrica haha.

EnglishShooting was just a yt channel I liked.
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>>42048362
MURICA

kill love kill love kill love kill

KILL

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>>42048410
Not a bad choice for the new national anthem, but I think it needs to be fleshed out a little.

Edit: actually its probably the perfect length. Just get to the baseball damnit!
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>>42048414
For our Murican attention span it's already too long didn't listen

Make with the batter charges pitcher n both dugouts come out n fight, already

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>>42048416
I think we could make the anthem more memorable and beautiful for our countrymen if we omitted every instance of "love." Then it would be truly good and proper.

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>>42048489
write your congressman.

Be sure to preface it, just writing Kill five times and a signature might give the wrong message

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>>42048489
>>42048520

Finally! A real issue worthy of change . org!

Whos starting the petition?

*nose*
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>>42048564
I'm illiterate.

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I had a dream that I went out and bought an M249S Para.

FN M249S PARA

It was a good dream.

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>>42048649
i want one

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>>42048649
I remeber when those came out on the civi market there was a little issue where they didnt just go pew, but rather, pewpewpew.

I think thats fixed now though.

>FN America issued a recall of the M249S — the civilian version of the military weapon — after identifying an issue with the hammer group for some models that can create an “unsafe firing event.”


Good wording chioce :D

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>>42048649
You were in the service, right?

Did you ever spend any time with those?

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>>42048683

Oh my yes. I'm not actually that fond of the M249, many of the ones in the military are junk. The M240 is where it's at. Of course the M240B weighs about twice what the M249 does. The M240L only weighs a few pounds more than the 249, but the ammo is still heavier.

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I am putting my package in to transfer to the Space Force.

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>>42048847

>TFW too old to be an Astartes.


Guess I'll just go worship Chaos...

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>>42048847
Service is the only guaranteed path to citizenship.

Would you like to know more?

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>>42048868
knew it.

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New toy. I'm in love with it.

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>>42049211
Grass hopper mouse?

Im really interested to know how you like that after range day. Iv seen reviews but never held one.

Also congrats!
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>TFW you see one of your pictures posted in a thread on /k/ and you're not sure if somebody else posted it trying to pass it off as theirs or if you posted it early and forgot about it.

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>>42049213
>>42049218
Thanks, guys.

>>42049218
Yup. A GHM9. I'll shoot it soon.
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>>42049302
Does it have the mouse eating a scorpion?

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Well, after watching the well publicized firefight video between organized Kurd insurgents and Turkish army regulars, I've pretty much given up my fantasy of having a 5.56 NATO rifle as my primary trust-my-life-to-it weapon.

Anyone here have any experiences with the FN SCAR 17 and/or Springfield SOCOM 16? I've finger fucked both and favor the SCAR overall but would appreciate any real world input on the SOCOM 16. I see plenty of the SOCOM 16s in the used gun racks along with other .308 surplus rifles.

Now to break the news to Mikie that he should give up on his AK 47 dreams and scale up to a larger round.

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>>42049481

Between those two the Scar is definitely the better option. If you want a M1A the 20" model is the way to go. I thought about getting a Socom 16 shortly after they came out but ended up getting a 7.62x51 Saiga instead.

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>>42049487
The 7.62x51 Saiga was on my short list years ago. Finding one I'd own today is beyond impossible. Prices are too high due to panic buying and limited numbers. Years ago, I only found them on the used gun racks. Finger fucking one was fun. Bulky but not massively overweight. I just wasn't happy with the idea that someone else found a problem with it they couldn't live with.

I also have a line on a used S&W AR-10 carbine with one magazine and iron sights for $1000. Got to believe there's a damn good reason that wound up on the used gun rack.

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>>42049481
Those Norinco M1A clones around gunbroker and other places for around 1000 bucks. It's worth mentioning that they're built on the original Springfield Armory machinery.

I've had just a little bit of time behind an Aero Precision M5E1 (pic related) and they're all right for the money. This one was ~1500.

If you're willing to pay SCAR prices, you should also look at the LWRC REPR as well.

People laugh at HK and the MR762, but I've watched enough videos and read posts on various forums to believe there's a good chance your MR762 could shoot half an inch or under at 100 with match ammo.

The PTR-91 GI seems to be the best bang for buck for 1000 bucks, and I've seriously seen surplus mags sell for 3 dollars.
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>>42049487
Id still advocate the merits of .223 rem over any .30. Light weight, cheap, convertable chamber to .22lr in most cases, easier to handle and less strain on the OS.

If "stopping power" is your main concern, you are not subject to the Geneva convention, so just use v-max bullets for your defense needs.

That being said, I like the SCAR. I hate it in .223, way to bulky, but I love it in .308. It has a really good recoil mitigation system that tames it quite a bit. The SOCOM is only a thing because the US mil had so many m14s in overstock that it was cheaper to put them in a new chassis to modernise it, rather than to buy new weapons. Its heavy as bawls, kicks like a mule and accurate as a slingshot unless you dump some serious money into it. Its really cool to have, but def not the one id be grabbing in need. Unless you live in Canada, or a commie state, I dont see the m1a as being a very utilitarian platform.
AR10s have no standardization which its really annoying.

I dont see myself taking on too many kurds, so ill stick with the chambering that I can have/get the most ammo for, and get the most range time in with.

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>>42049499
>taking on too many kurds,
Nice dubs.

I see you didn't see that video yet. It wasn't the Kurds that got schooled on impotent firepower. When you see a man do a full auto AK-47 magdump into a Turkroach and the roach is still moving, it's time to think seriously about what would happen if someone fucked up on crack and meth crashed your front door.

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>>42049503
>nice dubs
Thanks!

>full auto AK-47 magdump

I would be interested to know how much of that actually found its target. Im willing to bet not much.

There are some seriously interesting storys of just what a motivated/drugged up human can survive but on average its better to get hits on target with a .22 in defence than it is to miss a bunch with a .50AE. If some pebbles zip through your body faster than the speed of sound, in most cases, your day is done. Esp in cases that you would most likely encounter.

Sounds like your talking about a "bug out" or utilitarian system too so you have to consider more than just ft-lbs of energy on target, you need to consider logistics. The .22cal range is everywhere, its cheap, you AND your 135lb gf (right? Haha) can effectively use/enjoy it too. You can buy more, store more, carry more, shoot more. Becoming an effective riflman is more important than the cal you use.

You can take any game in North America with it, find it at any gas station in rural areas, and since we are probably talking the ar platform, find parts everywhere and exchange with friends.

Is the .223 the most effective "man stopper"? Not by a long shot (pun intended) its a varment cartrage, which is why its funny people are so spooked out by it. But as an all-around projectile its pretty sound.

If it were 1992 right now and the ar15 was considered "junk" by fudds and rear to see, id be saying a 12ga 870, but they tried to ban it so now its the most popular thing in the world, which makes it a very good choice logistically.

If you really want a big 'ol bullet spend your money on a .300AAC or .450 thumper upper and keep the .223/.22lr as backup and survival but i dont see the point.

If you just want a new platform because your bored, and want something new to enjoy, thats reason enough to get something new, no arguments here, but from a utilitarian perspective, stick with your AR.

.30cal has become a special purpose round in modern times, so if long range target or hunting is what you are doing, it still has a very real advantage.

Edit:
>crashed your front door
If you live in a rural area 30 cal, sure why not if you spray n pray or have the money to practice cq with a .30, but if you live in suburban/urban area consider your target and whats beyond. Its why i use .223 and wont even step to 9, i have close neighbors. The lanes iv chosen are clear but nothing ever goes according to plan.

Edit2:
I must sound like a conceded asshole ^_^ haha but this is something iv put a lot of thought and study into and just like, my opinions man and im open to counter points.

Tl:dr: im po' so I likes dem .22s
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>>42049499

Yeah, 5.56 is my preference as well. Though there's also .224 Valkyrie, 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.8SPC, 300 Blackout, etc. etc. if you wanted something a bit more potent. I rather liked 6.8 myself, kinda sad it didn't really take off. 6.5 Creedmoor has though, they even carry that at Walmart around here.

>>42049503
>When you see a man do a full auto AK-47 magdump into a Turkroach and the roach is still moving, it's time to think seriously about what would happen if someone fucked up on crack and meth crashed your front door.

9/10 of that is caused by just plain missing what they're shooting at. Arabs, Kurds and the like are really good at mag-dumping over or around cover without bothering to look, let alone aim. Every guy I saw get hit by 5.56 went down and usually stayed down because they took an aimed shot or burst center mass.

If you're really concerned about crackheads at close quarters I'd recommend either a rifle with bayonet or a shotgun, or a shotgun with a bayonet.
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>>42049522
A few friends have Creedmoors and they are awesome, but i cant really afford a whole new platform atm.

6.5 grendel is def my next upper though and iv heard the mil is seriously considering going to it. If thats the case it will be around a hell of a lot more, esp if it turns out to be a .243 killer, and hunters move to it too.

Ahhh .20 cal

>or a shotgun

Agreed, scattergat is the only cq system that can nearly guarantee a 1 shot stop. Joe Biden approved!

I should play with mine more, i use to be allllll about shotguns haha.

00buck and slugs still OP for my home defence needs though.

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>>42049517
As far as .22LR goes, my first rifle was an antique Winchester .22 that ate shorts, longs and long rifles. One of my family left a door unlocked and I lost that along with a bunch of other family keepsakes. I replaced it with a Ruger 10/22 and never looked back. I've got decades of real world plinking and crow killing under my belt.

I also have the mandatory antique Remington 870 in 12 gauge. Duck hunting.

As far as the winds of change in calibers goes, I was raised with .30-06 and .30-30. Went on deer and elk hunts wishing I'd brought more home to eat.

The .223 I own now is a keeper. Never planned on parting with a good rifle. The .308 is to augment my home force projection. As much as I bitch about collateral damage, when the home invasion happens, stopping power trumps explaining to anyone what came to pass that caused that amount of carnage. Since the Supreme Court says I can defend my home with the Second Amendment as fully recognized as the legal justification, I'm going to defend it as reasonably as a situation will allow.

I'm in no hurry to add that FN SCAR this year. I do have other options that will produce similar performance for less money, allowing me to get the dream optic I've coveted since I first learned of it's existence.

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>>42049530
>mandatory antique Remington 870
Yeah dude! Mines from the 70s haha. It had a kutz comp / polly choke on a 30" barrel when i got it, had a smith cut it down to 20" and put the polly choke back on for lolz haha.

I wouldnt touch a new 870 with a 19.5 foot poll.

I didnt mean to imply that you were making any kind of mistake or ditching .223 completely, i just really like building the case for it and im use to talking to older guys who talk up .45 and .30 cal as true holiest of holy haha.

I like that Bushnell. Some people call it a "fakecog" but it gets the job done well and leaves money for ammo haha.

I have a TRS25 thats been on everything from .22lr to 12ga slug and held 0 so i know they make good stuff.

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>>42049553
You may want to take a closer look at that scope.

It costs an arm and a leg but is worth ever penny of the price. Better by far than your average ACOG. Look at the name of the image file for details.

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Meanwhile, I am broken hearted after watching these reviews. A pistol I'd love to own being marketed to collectors, so expensive most average shooters will never touch it and a snowflake round no other firearm uses.

Only 1,000 of these will be imported from the Czech Republic at the princely sum of $7,500 each! Odds are they've already sold out.

Watch the videos anyway. Damn it! Why?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-NH7zaixcE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nc-VGgg6Ec

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFLeVvwlYd4
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>>42049627
I was gonna say looks-stupid and sour grapes but damn, that's a sweet pistol. Impressive range and power on target and i only watched the first vid but the way those all-copper rounds go through wood i'm guessing they're good against armor.

I don't want anyone shooting one of these at me so maybe the prohibitive price isn't so bad, hows that for silver (or copper) lining.

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>>42049627
Other than an original pre-transition Sphinx in 10mm, I'd love one of these to death! That FK Brno Field Pistol is the best CZ-75 money can buy.

Speaking of Sphinx, their parent company has opened a new used European only firearms import business! Sadly they only have one US built Sphinx in .45ACP in stock at the moment. Only $4800.

https://edelweissarms.com/

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>>42049247
This one is yours, isn't it?

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>>42049625
Whew lad, they dont give that thing away haha.

Yeah It looks like the Bushnell, and it has a fast fire on it... Why would you put a fastfire on something that costs 3 mortgage payments? Haha. Not that its a bad optic but still, like a FN scar with a truglo on it :P

If Raytheon is involved it probably damn solid but im a trijicon fanboy.
My bad for commenting on a glance.

>>42049668
Trigger discipline :D
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>>42049899
Do they want your blood-and-gut stained, blown out plates back as proof?

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No but for realzies those plates should be fine, Saint-Gobain High Performance refractories is a legit manufacturer. Only issue is they're not stand-alone plates they need to be backed with Kevlar to get the full protective value from them. Most likely they're some government contract overrun being surplussed off.

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>>42049917
Will there still be any weight savings after getting some kevlar to back these plates, compared to steel plates?

I'm thinking of just doing it.
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>>42049929

About a pound and a half or so. Kevlar backers don't weigh hardly anything.

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>>42049976
>goose-stepping

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Beautiful.

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>>42050146
the vz. 58 is a very underrated firearm

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tfw full auto guns are almost impossible to come by even if you have a license

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>>42050201
sadly true

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>>42050202
I don't even want something big. a .22lr full auto would be fun.

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>>42050204
Tec 22?
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>>42050211
i dig it

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Here we can see the G32 in its natural habitat. We need to be careful not to spook it as we film.
If it were a p320, it would squirt rounds like a squid squirts ink to make its escape, luckly the glock is a docial and relaxed creature.

Simply majestic.

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>>42050233

Glocks are naturally amphibious.

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>>42050253
So this is normal behaviour?

Thats a relief, thought i was going to have to take her to see the smith.

(I love your pic btw!)
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>>42050154
I should have snagged one when they were 450-500 bucks on PSA. I didn't at the time because I wasn't interested in a 7.62x39 gun that doesn't use AK magazines.

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>>42050327
You look a little empty there, like you need something to fill that void.

I like the sweet submerged lighting.

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So I was in a safe shop getting a safe door repaired and I saw an ad for this.

It's a gun mount that is basically a tube you slide inside the barrel to hold the gun. I don't know enough about firearms to know, so I was curious... is this actually bad for the gun? I feel it would be, but I wanted to get opinions of people who actually know about this stuff.
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>>42050353
Should be alright. If they can handle copper jacketed lead accelerating to 1000 fps and high pressures, a bit of plastic won't hurt it.

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>>42050353

So long as it's coated with vinyl or the like it's fine. Bare steel cleaning rods have been known to cause premature wear to barrels but only when used repeatedly.

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>>42050353
I was gonna say it looks like gun porn but then

>>42050359
wow now that's gun porn. she's tireless too.


as to the question tho, I'm ignorant and inexperienced enough not to know but regardless of what anyone says I'd never do anything like that to any firearm I owned. why would you need such a mount? Why not just a holster that cradles it like it deserves?

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>>42050362

That method is a bit more universal. They also have magnetic mounts for the same purpose. Is just another way to separate people from their money.

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>>42050353
>>42050362
Yeah, they even make minimalist holsters like that:
https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/versacarry-iwb-holster?a=1684528

Not my cup of tea but some people love it.

A lot of gun stores use pegs like that as displays in cases too. Again, there are def better ways but it wont hurt anything.

Like nom said, copper (and sometimes steel) rips down the barrel at close to the speed of sound, a little stick shouldnt hurt it. I still wouldnt do it.
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>>42050370
image of the week

fat magnet sounds good, but will that transfer any magnetism to the gun parts and help them pick up iron bits or is that just more of my overactive imagination?

>>42050371
something like this is more like it, for undercabinet storage or something I guess. Keep your beauty in nice fleshy sheath.


Eeew shoving things into the barrel just seems wrong to me; if a gun I wanted was displayed that way I'd order one instead that hasn't been gaffed like a side of beef on a meathook. Especially with the ridiculous price tags these days. Wish I'da got a snub 38 special for $250 when those were all over the place. Now the same thing is like $600 making it senseless not to just get a heavier weapon instead.

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>>42050375
>but will that transfer any magnetism to the gun parts and help them pick up iron bits or is that just more of my overactive imagination?

Yeah, that could happen. Shouldn't be too much of an issue so long as you don't lay your gun down near a bunch of metal filings though.
Totally something I would do though, I leave metal filings all over the damn place.

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>>42050375
Yup! I like that. I have an alien gear holster that came with a mount to clip it onto when off the belt, have it mounted on my bed frame, though i dont use that holster anymore.

>Eeew shoving things into the barrel just seems wrong to me

Yeah thats why i dont like those versacarrys, too high a chance of a squib type situation happening.

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Plate arrived today. Is only slightly thicker than y titanium plates and about two pounds lighter. Definitely gonna order another.

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>>42050569
Looks like a product your most precious organs can get behind.

What's it sposed to stop? I mean, what round can penetrate it. Not that im planning anything of course

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>>42050576

With Kevlar backing it will stop up to an armor-piercing 30'06. Without Kevlar it's only rated for 7.62x51mm M80 ball.

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>>42050569
Fantastique.

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>>42050577
That seems pretty good! How much does it cost n how much is the backing?

Hmm im not sure how pistol rounds compare does it stop .44mag? Sounds like 9s are no sweat though. Thats what you need where i live. Think the cops have some .40 hollowpoints so probly plenty of the gangbangers have those too. I used to think .40 hollowpoints were a particularly brutal round for police but i guess they like them for stopping in the target, 9s can kill guys behind the intended target.

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>>42050584
On the subject of penetration, this round has been relevant to my interests lately, but there seems not to be a lot of info about it.

We'll also never find it available on the civilian market.
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>>42050584

Plates:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Multi-Curve-Body-Armor-Ceramic-Tile-Silicon-Carbide-10-x12-25-11-x13-25/222551429776?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

Backers:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Body-Armor-Bullet-Proof-Insert-Level-IIIA-3A-Mfg-MAR-2018-10x12-Single/231536302554?hash=item35e8a399da

Level 3A kevlar will stop up to a .44 magnum and basically any other pistol round other than 7.62x25 or some special snowflake armor piercing rounds you'e not likely to ever encounter.

There's very little practical difference between 9mm and 40 in terms of terminal ballistics.

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>>42050587
None of those rounds looks fun to be hit by.

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>>42050588
I got shot 8 times like Fiddy, but I was okay because it was only 9mm.

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>>42050589
So the lesson of the day is is to use something bigger.

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>>42050588

Indeed, hence the value of armor.

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>>42050569
I have a very unfounded fear of metal plates. Iv always figured id be the guy who had it ricochet up into my chin or spawll into my eyes or something. I know its unlikely, but hey man, its my phobia haha.

I stick with kevlar and ceramic. I hate wearing armor though, heavy and hot.

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>>42050736

The biggest danger from spalling is that it will shred your plate carrier causing the plate to fall out. Even if some of gets embedded in your skin that's still a better day than getting your internal organs perforated.

I have a tiny fragment under the skin of left elbow that I picked up in Iraq. Is about the size of a large grain of sand. You'd think it was a freckle if it wasn't green.

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>>42050741
>still a better day than getting your internal organs perforated.
I have to say, thats a damn solid argument.

>I have a tiny fragment under the skin of left elbow that I picked up in Iraq.

Yeesh, sorry to hear that, and thanks for the service. Also makes the above point more valad.

I would still be thinking about it the whole time im wearing it. Iv only had to wear armor once in seriousness, and i used to wear it when i play with local swat, because simunition hurts... But now i just deal with the welts (or avoid getting hit) because like i said, i really hate wearing it haha.

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>>42050744
>Yeesh, sorry to hear that

T'ain't no thing. Is about on-par with a paper cut except more interesting to talk about. Here's a crappy pic.

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>>42050749
I feel like that would burn more than anything.

Like a sledge hammer on fire i hear.

You need to come up with an alien abduction story around that too for when you're in the right company haha.

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>>42050752

I didn't actually feel it when it happened. But then I'm pretty good at injuring myself and not noticing.

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>>42050753
>But then I'm pretty good at injuring myself and not noticing.

Tell me about it... I really shouldnt handle anything sharper than a stick of butter... But i do.

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I can't believe it's not Florida!

https://wnep.com/2018/07/02/pair-high-on-bath-salts-fire-shots-at-fireflies-mistaken-for-alien-lasers-in-clinton-county/

This happened about 5 miles from me. People who can't maintain probably shouldn't do hard drugs.

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>>42051064
I guess they just weren't feeling those one thousand hugs from those ten thousand lightning bugs.

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>>42051064
I mean... Did he get the goo off or not!? Thats such a cliff hanger!
Where are people even still getting bath salts?

>>42051066
Ha!

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>>42051064
"If aliens are gonna use lasers, they’re gonna use them during firefly season on people high on bath salts. We can’t really be sure what happened."

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>>42051068

Usually drugs find their way here via Philly or Harrisburg, occasionally some gangsta-types will come up here and hang around but it usually doesn't take long for the cops to nab them since they stand out like a sore thumb.

Course thee could also be some outlaw chemist cooking the stuff inna woods. wouldn't be the first time. I remember a few years back the Aryan Brotherhood had a meth lab in town that blew up in their faces. Back in the days of prohibition Prince Farrington had a million dollar moonshine operation in the area. He's something of a Robin Hood type figure in these parts.

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>>42051144
>a meth lab in town that blew up in their faces.

I love that, happened to some kids in a trailer in the woods in my town. I don't know if anyone was hurt, but still a funny way to get caught.

I guess I just didn't expect Bath Salts to be in such high demand that people would start making the stuff after it got banned and you couldn't just get it at the local shady mini-mart.

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>>42051146

>I just didn't expect Bath Salts to be in such high demand that people would start making the stuff after it got banned and you couldn't just get it at the local shady mini-mart.


That's what people always think. Quickest way to make somebody desire something is to tell them they can't have it.

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>>42051147
Yup, that seems to be the way of it. Interesting case when it comes to something like bath salts though, it really messes people up but i guess evolution would have sorted it out.

I would have been in favor of regulating it, but the outright bans can lead to things like explosions ... evidently.
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>look up specific guns on YouTube because you want to know more about them
>The only videos that come up are for airsoft guns and video games

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>>42051208
Iconic Arms: Iconic Arms

Which one do you want to know about?

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>>42051208
Which gun?
>>42051210
Cant click, at work, but is that xbox ahoy?

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>>42051211
It is a channel called Ahoy but I'm not sure if he does xbox stuff. If he has I haven't watched it. I mostly just found his history videos interesting.

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>>42051211
Ew work

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>>42051213
Yeah he used to be xbox ahoy and did CoD class setup videos. Now he is just ahoy because he branched out a bunch but i cant get used to just "ahoy" haha. One of my only subs, he puts some serious work into his vids. Im always wicked excite when he uploads ^_^

>>42051215
There are worse things than playing with guns all day haha.

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>>42051218
I was referring to my job on the weekends.

U so luk ee

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So my states legislative season has ended, and all I got was this damn red flag law...

Also a bumpstock ban...

I'm actually not so pissed about the red flag law. It was pretty well written, there were a few on the table that were not so much, but they went with the one written by the speaker of the house (D) that is a huge gun guy and actually knew what he was talking about to an extent. ACLU is keeping a sharp eye on it, but its written in a way that makes it pretty damn hard for them to come get your stuff, basically a family member has to petition a judge and provide hard evidence of threats to harm self or others (texts, FB posts, voice mails, the like) also, the penalty for a false accusation is a FELONY as it should be. W̶h̶i̶c̶h̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶a̶l̶s̶o̶ ̶s̶o̶m̶e̶t̶h̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶I̶ ̶f̶o̶c̶u̶s̶e̶d̶ ̶o̶n̶ ̶r̶e̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ ̶h̶a̶r̶d̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶m̶y̶ ̶w̶r̶i̶t̶t̶e̶n̶ ̶t̶e̶s̶t̶i̶m̶o̶n̶y̶̶, so I'm happy it got in.

Edit:Actually I focused mostly on letting people with carry permits be able to pick up there kids from school, which is something they also wanted to ban, now that I re-read it. Its something i said in person quite consistently though.

The bumpstock ban... im really not happy about. No grandfather -.- just "turn 'em in! oh, you paid $500 for that? TFB!". Id have been semi okay with it if they treated it as a firearm and required and FFL transfer and serialization or something, but ffs, a ban is why they exist in the first place. At least its not fucking LIFE in a cage for a plastic triangle, like Mass.

I'm sure they will all get turned in to the proper authorities... :/

Ether way, considering we had 5 round mags and complete AR ban and registration (which if the fools who introduced that bill read the actual state gun laws they would have known that was illegal in the first place) and a literal copy-paste of the 1994 AWB (spelling mistakes and all!) we got off light.
Edit 2: They also introduced legislation that made it super DUPER extra Dodeca illegal for a domestic abuser to own a firearm... FFS READ THE LAWS... we have 3 laws PLUS the fed law that makes that illegal but still... every year... its introduced. /)_-

Just another piece of that pie eh?

I will say, when ~2000 people flooded the state house to say "FUCK NO!" to the 40 or so mothers against whatever... it sent a pretty clear message. To the point where some douche introduced a bill to ban public hearings... haha.

I just want to live in a country where an Inter-racial gay married couple can smoke a bowl and defend their adopted children with a short barrel AR15... I don't think thats too much to ask.

>>42051263
>U so luk ee
I try to keep that in mind ^_^
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>>42051273
Damn even in CA we can have 10 rounds.

5 is almost like having granny muzzle load your musket for you.

Also crummy as my weekend thrift job is, sometimes when a lot of stuff comes in i work the donation drop and today i fished a few g4 ponies outta the trash including this jointed light-up unicorn twiggy that i didnt even know about so today looks like i so lucky.

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>>42051283
I was going to say... you love thrifting.. and you work at a thrift store... seems like your fairly set up haha.

But i guess a job just becomes a job no matter where you work or what you do.

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>>42051288
We dont get to buy stuff for the most part, its really stupid. I fished the pony haul out of the trash today woohoo

And no, its not cuz its a job its cuz its a punitive work environment and stupid rules like i cant come in and shop on my own time like regular people can.

My other job, i love. I run a small psychology clinic for my mentor. I get paid shit, but i'm trusted and he appreciates what i do.
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>>42051512
Nice! Thats really not a bad price ether.

Did they ever make those in flat OD or khaki?

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>>42051689

Yeah pretty sure that same store has them in OD, Khaki ones are less common but they're out there.

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>>42051698
I always feel all stolen valor when i wear military patern camos like EDRL.

Trebark is my classic camo of choice ^_^

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>>42051698
Whats with the cable going to the magazine on that rifle?

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>>42051710

Well I'm not sure if that's meant to be an airsoft or paintball gun and that's a hose connected to an air tank or it's supposed to be some tacticool 10/22 that for some reason has a pistol lanyard attached to it.

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>>42051711
>tacticool 10/22 that for some reason has a pistol lanyard attached to it.

>the worst single point sling

It almost certainly exists.


>>42051710
I like to think its one of those Napoleonic era sniper air rifles.
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Don't know how much interest this article will generate here. I used to follow the War Fairy threads on /k/ when 3D printed guns were a trend. One of the leaders in that area went to bat and to court for printing and shooting a pistol.

His court case concluded with him winning. Not that it was a real question about home made firearms being legal under the right conditions.

Ignore the error message at the top of this linked web page. Wired pulled the video where that error message is now. The text and still images are all in place.

https://www.wired.com/story/a-landmark-legal-shift-opens-pandoras-box-for-diy-guns/

Here's another article on the court case.

https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/07/10/free-speech-3-d-printed-gun/

Now to find what drive I stored my War Fairy CAD files on.
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>>42051805
>Wired pulled the video where that error message is now.

Wankers, my cousin is in that video.

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>>42051805
Thats really the only logical conclusion they could have come to, and the argument that guy in England made when he started making sub guns from the hardware store in protest.

The info cant be stopped lest we go all 451f on society. Idk what the melting point of silicone is...

I never quite got the point of 3D printing a reciver when a block of aluminium and a drill press is going to be a ton cheaper and better quality.

Learn button rifling.

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>>42051837
I agree with not using polymer for receivers and barrels. The one time I hefted a nylon based AR lower and tapped the receiver, it felt like it would crack if you dropped it. The weight advantage was not worth the risk.

I'm more into the idea of printing more ascetic furniture to wrap the rifle or carbine in. Given that we now have a Supreme Court that's pretty much working from common sense than emotional pleas, I'm comfortable we won't see another Clinton style ban on ARs and AKs.

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>>42051837
>I never quite got the point of 3D printing a reciver when a block of aluminium and a drill press is going to be a ton cheaper and better quality.

It freaks the normies more because in the mind of an anti Bubba and Cletus are too stupid to operate a lathe and mill but now here's this printer where you just have to press start and it cranks out a fully-functional baby killer in five seconds flat.
I have had at least a dozen arguments where my opponent has outright denied that it's possible to make full-auto SMG's from common hardware store parts or that anybody has ever done such a thing. After I post sufficient evidence to the contrary they usually resort to "Oh yeah well, even if you make a gun you still can't make the ammo."

Had this argument with Manley T. McDragonpuncher and Reaver on here before not to mention normies on Facebook and it always goes more or less the same way. In their world guns are arcane devices and only Elven wizards know the secrets of how to make them. So this is a massive paradigm shift to them rather than a minor bit of technological streamlining still in it's infancy.

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>>42051857
>It freaks the normies more because in the mind of an anti Bubba and Cletus are too stupid to operate a lathe and mill but now here's this printer where you just have to press start and it cranks out a fully-functional baby killer in five seconds flat.

We rednecks must be moving up in the world if people think we're more competant with a computer than a mill and lathe.
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>>42051860

Indeed. They also think gun blueprints being available on the internet is something new and scary.

See, the anti's have a desire to remain ignorant of any knowledge of guns that it surpasses even dogmatic religion. Old-timey religious dogmatists might have been scared of witches and demons but that didn't stop them from sitting around writing vast tomes about the nature of witches and demons and all the debauched ways they might fornicate together. Don't judge, it gets boring in a monastery and no doubt they were thinking very hard about how much Jesus loves them while they were doing it.
But in the mind of an anti knowing anything about how guns work makes you complicit in the act of baby-murder. That's why when you see a video where one of these mooks goes out and shoots a gun they immediately start to bawl their eyes out cuz even though that bullet hit nothing but dirt in their mind they just dropped a nuke onto a preschool. They can only think about how many people they could murder with such a death machine and don't even have the good grace to quietly get-off on the idea like normal people.

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>>42051868
I think it's worse when staunch antis shoot a gun for the first time and really like it and then settle on "well, you know, these would be fine for civilian ownership if only they could be kept in a safe, controlled environment."

This is exactly why my sister won't inherit any of the family's guns. She would give them up at any opportunity after expressing sentiments like those. We all don't know where we went wrong.

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>>42051857
It goes a little deeper than the US market for guns.

One issue that got brushed over was the court case focused more on suppressing the distribution of the knowledge of how to make cheap guns in parts of the world where laws make having guns a massive headache. If you read the article closely, some gun plans are still prohibited within the legal settlement. Machine guns and oddballs like caseless ammo gun plans are still prohibited from online distribution.

When I first looked into 3D guns, I immediately thought of the FP-45 Liberator, a US single shot .45ACP designed specifically for handshake distance shots against a better armed opponent who believed he had a better weapon, thus any advantage was his.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FP-45_Liberator

This is how I still picture the 3D printed pistols. Use once, throw away and disarm the person you shot with it.

Trusting my life to a plastic barrel, even for one shot, isn't my idea of a solid offensive act.

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>>42051856
Im not against using polymers its just, in my experience, the ones used in 3D printing are not strong enough. At least for an AR lower. They tend to fail at the front take down pin and the throat of where the buffer tube threads. A whole new design for that type of polymer would probably be fine though.
>>42051860
Ill take it! Wait till they find out what a CNC machine is o.O
>>42051868
The real ANTIS are just that. They are going to be anti gun, cover their ears and go "lalalala" forever. Its a fools errand to engage with them, outside public debate. On the other hand, there are people who are smart people, but have been mislead or just never wanted to do the research. I use "world of guns" when teaching them to show them how the parts interact and how simple the machine is, and biggest of all, how they all work pretty much the same. A lot of folks came out of the woodwork to learn after NV and FL in the past year. Once they get a handle on the actual physics and law that governors the situation, that meme there friend on FB shared, USA today, and just about every movie they've ever seen look freaking stupid.
Biggest all around red pill you can drop imo.
>>42051870
Do you mean in a safe, or like, leave them at the range or police station?

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>>42051868
>>42051882
you mean to tell me actual gun owners and people who have a gun hobby know better? you cant be telling me that people who dont know about guns or its laws should be in charge of deciding laws for them? nah, you guys are just gun nuts

obvious sarcasm

>>42051870
>We all don't know where we went wrong.
she took the media pill

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>>42051857
>It freaks the normies more because in the mind of an anti Bubba and Cletus are too stupid to operate a lathe and mill but now here's this printer where you just have to press start and it cranks out a fully-functional baby killer in five seconds flat.
It's funny because people too dumb to operate a lathe and mill can always rub their squishy bits together and get a fully-functional baby in nine months flat. Mention that in any kind of legal context and you're automatically an ebil wayciss nahtzee who wants to murder black people.
But talk about the same thing with guns and suddenly you're a champion of the people who wants to save us all from the tyranny of privately-owned armaments being shoved down our throats.

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>>42051891
Well, clearly people knowledgeable of a subject will have an "educational bias" and can't be trusted. Only people who heard from a friend of a friend about a subject can be trusted to make reasonable, level-headed decisions on the matter, because they have no personal attachments. /s

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>>42051906
>reaching into a box while smiling

what's in the box lyra. No put that down, aaaaa

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>>42051927
that's messed up, boxes are for pony mail

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>>42051934
Nope!...

Its heads
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>>42051947
Ponies. No boxes ever come to me except with ponies inside.

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>>42051273
What state...?

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Tactical M1 Carbine? The Inland M30-P Pistol and Brace
Your thoughts?






>>42052173
RI
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>>42052194
Ah, it sounded similar to something that happened here. I'm not a fan of the tacticool M1

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>>42052201
Where is "here" to you?

I hate giving out my location but i kinda set myself up for it with that post haha
Plus any excuse to play with my new found spoiler ability ^_^
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>>42052194
As an M1C owner I could get into this.

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>>42052207
An inland? Or like an IBM or quality hardware?

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>>42052194

Looks like it weighs more than a regular M1 carbine.

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>>42052225
Looks like chiappa and tapco had a demon love-child and named it bubba.

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>>42052209
The one I have now? Just a new model Springfield same as my Garand.

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>>42052231
You make sound life choices!

The inlands are... Better than the chiappa ones that take Beretta mags anyway.

Also, is it paranoia if i think >>42052173 was Michael Bloomberg trying to figure out where he needs to spend more money and bus more people?
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I'd seen references to this home build elsewhere but never looked for the video. Does anyone here think there would be a profitable market for a brass AR lower similar to the one this guy made? The ascetic reminds me of the Henry rifles.

An AR-10 Made From Bullet Brass. "The Golden Gun". GunCraft101

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>>42052266

Brass is hella more expensive than aluminum and heavier. Plus you can just Cerakote a regular AR to get the same look.

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>>42052279
Given one could pick up the 1700 used cases for next to nothing, the price of the brass is pretty much a non-issue.

The real issues are in if you do or don't have the means to melt and cast the brass blank to machine. Add the up front costs for all the machine tools this guy had and your two pound brass lower is going to be very expensive if all you're going to create is in single digits.

His comments included the fact that the brass lower helped mitigate the recoil of the .308 he was shooting far better than the lighter factory lower he used to build the gun in the first place.

While Cerakote is a valid option, it's not brass. This is something that goes on my wish list.

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>>42052293

If you were going to do such a thing that's how you'd want to do it. You'd need a melting pot and mold and then settle in for a lot of milling. Like, all the milling.
I occasionally amuse myself with projects like that. A lot of times though i get about halfway through, stop for some reason and then put the whole thing off for an indefinite period.

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Just picked up myself a nice Hatfield SAS
I think it might be my new favorite.

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>>42052266
>market
Maybe?
>profitable
Risky business

I could see the appeal as a collector item, kind of like a steam punk AR (Im picturing it with an old Malcolm scope) but I'd probably pause for a second before running to apply for an MFG FFL haha. Maybe make an 80% and see if anyone wants it? Just dont mill out a spot for the fire control group.
>>42052418
Thats so nice! Scattergats are the one true gat haha. There is a Beretta A400 at the LGS calling out to me, and since 7 is an odd number... I def need another shotgun haha. Congrats! Now go bust some clays ^_^

>pic

Friendly reminder to check and rotate your carry ammo once in a while (or to just not buy SIG products) because if I had shot this, could have been a bad day. It wasn't even a round I rack on.

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>>42052418
Das purty


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