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books books let's talk about books Chewy [Element Of Fortitude]!MUSIC.FbVYCountry code: blank.gif, country type: ponyflag, valid: 41918898[Last 50 Posts]

I'm a little over 300 pages into Moby Dick and it's REALLY good.

There are an enormous amount of references to historical figures/events, biblical stories, and other authors/books that are mostly lost on me because I am not very well-read in that regard.

My plan is that when I finish the book I will buy my own copy and at some point go through rereading but with a highlighter to mark all the things I want to look up or read about.

I love the prose but I think it's funny how almost every sentence is what my high school english teacher would have considered a "run-on" sentence.

What be you reading, /oat/?

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I am reading T.E. Lawrence by B.H. Liddell-Hart.

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>>41918898

WHITE WHALE HOLY GRAIL

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>>41918898

An annotated edition, I hope?

I got a tablet and went a little nuts searching project gutenberg and other places. Now juggling the Hollander translation of the Divine Comedy, Gilgamesh, the Jenner Journey to the West and the entire run of Animorphs.

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>>41918898

You ever read Kipling's Captains Courageous?

I highly recommend it. The movie is only okay.

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I still have yet to finish The Brothers Karamazov. I've kind of been on hiatus from it, in part due to laziness and in part due to summer classes.

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i've been re-reading my book of the year from 2015, a house of hollow wounds by joseph s. pulver sr., and i'm amazed at how good it is. it's a collection of very well written horror short stories, all written in a very poetic style. think like what if edgar allen poe and baudelaire had a baby, and then that baby grew up reading ginsberg, lovecraft and chambers.

his stories all have this wonderfully distinctive prose that's a joy to read, because he really gets weird fiction and horror. he writes in the first person a lot, and his prose reflects the mindset of the person he's writing to a T. some of his work is really avant-gard, in kinda a bad way, but he can also do avant-garde really well if he has a good editor.

seriously, he's one of the best horror writers out there currently writing. he basically carries hippocampus press with his solid releases.

>>41918917
>>41918920
SPLIT YOUR LUNGS WITH BLOOD AND THUNDER IF YOU WISH TO PREVAIL

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>>41918898
I miss choose your adventure books.

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Essays on the Bhagavad Gita by Sri Aurobindo;
Sacred Number and The Lords of Time by Richard Heath;
Thucydides' Peloponnesian War;
The Collected Poems of Emily Dickinson.
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Chewy [Element Of Fortitude]!MUSIC.FbVYCountry code: blank.gif, country type: ponyflag, valid: 1 41919129

>>41919123

>Essays on the Bhagavad Gita by Sri Aurobindo


I want to read this

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>>41919131

I heard about it in a discussion on eastern philosophy which I am interested in. but I have to chip away at the Greeks first.
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>>41919135
I don't think the latter is a requisite of the former...

Usually if he brings in philosophy or metaphysics from the West he gives enough context so that his meaning can be understood without reference.

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>>41919140

then maybe I will give it a chance sooner

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Chewy not to be a jerk, but why do I see a lot of threads made by you?

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>>41919149

I just make threads when I have something I want to discuss or share.

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>>41919152
How about a daily thread for your thoughts?

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>>41919154

I feel like certain thoughts I have are complex enough to warrant individual threads. A single thread where I condensed EVERY though I felt I wanted to discuss would probably not work.

Do you have a problem with me making as many threads as I do or something?

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>>41919162
No not really, just questioning things

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>>41919166

Oh, okay. Well, it's good to question things, so I can't complain about that.

But just to make it clear I don't make a lot of threads just to annoy people or something like that.

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>>41919172
Nah its fine, JFC I used to make 100 per day.
Even ask Anon, he/she saw it and still rats on me because of it

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>What be you reading, /oat/?
Coincidentally, I'm reading this; which is about the destruction of the whale ship Essex by a whale; the disaster that partially inspired of Moby Dick

I've actually read very little of it so far. As I got it as a rainy day book while traveling, but had very little rain.

>I love the prose but I think it's funny how almost every sentence is what my high school english teacher would have considered a "run-on" sentence.

Melville like his complex sentences :3
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Chewy [Element Of Fortitude]!MUSIC.FbVYCountry code: blank.gif, country type: ponyflag, valid: 1 41926069

what's more important, prose or plot?

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>>41926069
Prose is a pretty general term.

Are you referring more to stuff like Joyce's bewildering bullshit or Lovecraft's unnecessarily florid adjectives and superlatives?

People who say Tolkien was unnecessarily long-winded and descriptive are full of shit and obviously never experienced the really heinous offenders like Steinbeck.

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Once An Eagle is a great book it is 1312 pages but I read the first 500 like it was nothing. I ended up getting busy and had to put it down, need to pick it back up.

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>>41926069
prose, prose for sure. good prose can make anything sound good, even a garbage plot. garbage prose on the other hand can kill even the greatest plot.

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>>41926075
Toliens writing style is just very mid 20th century british. It's one of those things that I can't really fault people for not being able to get into. Sorta similar to A Once and Future King in that it takes like 8 pages until any narrative progression begins.

One pulp writer who I've always felt is consistently underrated for his prose skill is Howard.
"Up and up they went, silently, the lights of the city spreading out further and further as they climbed, the stars above them more and more dimmed by the glitter of the jewels along the rim."
The man is florid but in stark contrast to lovecraft(who gets way too much praise), he has a strong sense of rhythm. As well, he knew when to truncate things down to extreme terseness if the pacing called for it.
"Flat, flaring nostrils, retreating chin, fangs, no forehead whatever, great, immensely long arms dangling from sloping, incredible shoulders"

I've always been of the opinion that CaS and howard were more deserving of "kings of 30's pulp" than any other writers.

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What do you guys think of Anne Rice? My mom really wants me to read her books.

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>>41926348
She's kinda umm... ummm...
Hit and miss. She has ecent characterization, her plots are pretty good(though they tend to get dumb as they go on)but her pacing can be terrible at times. I've never been able to make it through the middle part of interview with a vampire.

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I enjoy space operas and am just starting Revelation Space. The Red Mars series was very good

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I just finished The Silmarillion. Every fucking word.
Now I'm switching between a Welcome to Night Vale book and Zeus Grants Stupid Wishes. Some light reading with acceptance of casual existential dread and dick jokes. Might go for Animorphs next.

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>>41926423
>Every fucking word

goddamn. i need to re-read the silmarillion, mostly because i've forgotten most of it. apart from the main text, how much extra text is there? like, there aren't lotr sized appendices right?

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>>41926437
Wait until Peter Jackson makes it a movie.

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>>41926437
Too lazy to count pages so I took a picture, you can see the relative lengths here.

1. Ainulindale and Valaquenta
2. Quenta Silmarillion
3. Akallabeth and Of the Rings of Power
4. Appendices and Index

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>>41926437

There's a lot of supplemental writing the size of lotr, with things like corrections to things in the Silm and early drafts of the stories.
On my bookshelf I have The Children of Hurin, Unfinished Tales, The Book of Lost Tales v2, The Tolkien Reader, The Return of the Shadow, and I just got the new Beren and Luthien book in the mail. That's not even counting all the letters where he says stuff about lore.
Then there's stuff Tolkien wrote unrelated to lotr stuff, like Roverandum and Farmer Giles of Ham.

>>41926275

It reads like particularly dry, professional compilations of mythology. I have an old-school book on myths from Ireland even more thicc than the Silm and it reads similarly.
I think it's very much a stylistic choice. The Silm is supposed to be in-universe from lotr, a collection of songs and old tales translated and compiled by Bilbo during his time in Rivendell. So not only does it make sense for it to be so dry, but it also makes debating things interesting, since a biased author noted for lying all the time is compiling biased material. His patron, host, and friend Elrond's ancestors all just happen to be amazing, beautiful, brave people while people who weren't cool to his ancestors were evil trash people. Then there's the fact it only really follows the elves, particularly the Noldor, so there's so much to speculate on with literal every other race and culture.

>>41926439

The Tolkien estate hasn't sold the rights to it and are always like 'Hell fucking no' when asked if they plan to.
That being said, I really do like how the lack of canon visual representation save a few watercolors from Tolkien leads to such creativity from artists.

>>41926444

Also the font is tiny. It's lore for ants.
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I have not read books in a little while. Two months or so ago I was big into fantasy again and read the first two books of a series called... King's Dragon? I don't remember, that was the first book in the series, regardless.

It was a book I got like 3 or 4 years ago at a discount book sale at one of my local libraries (of which there are four) and I hadn't looked into it in all that time.

Anyways, it was really good. The series is heavily based on history. The Holy Roman Empire, the Germanic Holy Roman Empire, Christianity, specifically Catholicism and the beginnings of Protestantism, et cetera. It's also got your general fantasy stuff, weird creatures to the North and South, magic, et cetera.

To be honest it reminded me a lot of Game of Thrones in a lot of ways, but it was written much differently.

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>>41926462
A lot of art available on that novel.

War of Wrath:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtbYQq5GuVE

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I still haven't finished Karamazov and I'm somewhat bogged down by schoolwork of late. I'll get to it eventually.

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>>41926491
>tfw missed out on Blind Guardian concert because knee got super fucked up

It still hurts.
The missing out, not the knee.

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It just dawned on me looking at this cover that the whale probably got his name because the sailors on that boat were like, 'Man, this whale is a fucking dick.'

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:)

>>41926603

tbh in the book it's kind of the whalemen who are dicks to the whale.

I mean the author constantly goes on about how great and majestic and amazing and like a billion other positive adjectives to describe whales, but then simultaneously delights in how the main characters basically hunt them down, slaughter them, and mutilate them so they can sell their oil and stuff.

but the whale called Moby Dick is specifically being hunted for revenge, because he took the leg of the captain of the ship in a previous encounter. However, there's more to it than that. This is probably obvious but the whale is symbolic of much more significant themes than just revenge. Stuff relating to psychotic madness and mankind and existence itself and stuff. it would be impossible for me to explain it myself when the author does such a great job in the actual book.

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>>41926632
The Grapes of Wrath gets a lot of accolades, but tbh I was quite bored by it. I understand its literary and historical significance, but it was just a bit too dry for me. Of Mice and Men is the better Steinbeck work, in my opinion.

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>>41926603
It's named after the real whale Mocha Dick, who was actually kind of a nice guy I think.

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>>41926462
gosh, i didn't ask for all of them, but thanks for reminding me that there's a new beren and luthien book out. i don't think i've read the book of lost tales v2 or the children of hurin yet, which shocks me. i used to be so good about never missing a tolkien release...

>>41926439
i mean, i honestly think we've more chances of tolkien rising from the grave and telling us all that steam twist was right than that ever happening.

>>41926442
>>41926444
thanks fam.

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>>41926632
>Proust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwAOc4g3K-g

And Grapes of Wrath is just plain terrible. Total waste of paper and ink. I've seen IRL fallow fields and don't need them described and re-described in detail every other chapter.

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>>41926649


I was thinking of getting a Silm tattoo, tbh.

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>>41926843
dope! seriously, that sounds so fucking cool, what are you thinking of getting?

>>41926685
i mean, maybe in 50 years.

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>>41926863

Luthien's sigil on my shoulder blade, cuz she is one cool lady and it could pass as a pretty stained glass design. I was kinda thinking Fingon's, but Luthien's is prettier and has alternate versions to choose from.

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MOBY DICK COMPLETE

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>>41935732
Try Kipling's Captains Courageous next.

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>>41935774

I have actually already gotten Lolita out from my local library and intend to read that next, sorry...I have a long list of stuff I intend to read but I can add that to it.

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I finished Watchmen over the weekend, and it lived up to all of the hype. The spoiled plot points from the movie didn't do much to get in the way of being really emotionally moving. So happy I got around to it.

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>>41935926

I've seen a lot of people say that Watchmen is basically the pinnacle of graphic novels in an artistic since. like it's the closest they have come to being actual literature. I gotta read it someday.

I really want to buy some Batman comics.

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>>41935900

Be sure to report back on what you thought of it. The actual underlying intent of the narrative is really impressive writing.

>>41935926

They cut out so much from the movie that nothing in it had as much impact. The only thing I think added emotional impact was the opening, just those few scenes of Silhouette doing something other than being catty to Sally made what happened to her even more horrible.
Overall it was as good as any movie of it could hope to be minus some nitpicks... But's a shame that big budget TV series adaptations like GoT and American Gods weren't quite things then.
The Minute Men and Silk Spectre 'Before Watchmen' miniseries were actually entertaining, if you want more of the characters.

>>41935957

It is as sophisticated as cape comics will ever get and the art itself just gives you more and more to notice each time you read it. It really is a must-read if you like cape comics... Despite how great the work is I do think it gets too overhyped. But that's just a personal gripe.
Want some Batman recs?
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>>41936024

>Want some Batman recs?


yeah sure

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>>41936037

The Long Halloween is my personal pick for best Batman story. Dark Victory, is a worthy sequel. The tie-in Catwoman: When in Rome is also really good.
The Dark Knight Returns and Batman Year One are classics for good reason. Just don't read any other Frank Miller Batman unless you're a masochist who likes garbage.
If you like Year One, Earth One is probably worth a look. I remember liking it.
Murder at Wayne Manor is a fun, interactive mystery.
The Killing Joke earned its 'classic' status. If possible, I'd recommend finding an older print of it, they recolored it a few years ago and it takes away from the atmosphere.
Gotham by Gaslight is a fun elseworlds where it all takes place in the 1880s.
The Doom that Came to Gotham is a must if you like Lovecraft shit.
Mad love is even better than the BTAS episodes, definitely worth a read if you liked that cartoon. Harley and Ivy is a cute miniseries, on that note.
Joker's Asylum is really, really good. One-shots for the baddies that usually don't get the spotlight. The Penguin and Killer Croc's stories were particularly good.
Batman 66 is good if you like the 60s show or any kind of camp.

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>>41936073
>The Dark Knight Returns and Batman Year One are classics for good reason. Just don't read any other Frank Miller Batman unless you're a masochist who likes garbage.


God, Frank miller is schitzophrenic; he is SIMULTANEOUSLY the most brilliant batman Author and ALSO the most Incompetent batman author in existence.


its like he gets up and a little gremlin in his head flips a coin to decide if he flips the "Fucking insane" or "genius" switch for the day.

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>>41936037
Want some Spider-Man refs?

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>>41936125

I suppose

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>mfw I found out what "subvocalization" is and realized I have been doing it my whole life

wtf I literally don't understand how you can read something without reading every word. but apparently lots of people can easily?

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>>41936114

Nah, it's more like a gremlin moved into his head years ago and started chewing on all the wires. The only 'genius' he's produced in almost 20 years is funny stuff that wasn't even supposed to be funny. He's a has-been hack.

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>>41936539
>how you can read something without reading every word
wait what? like they skip some words?

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So like when you auto-fill in some words that someone forgot to write, but in reverse, huh?

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>>41936716
>>41936700

people say that somehow if you are used to seeing certain phrases enough you will understand them without actually pronouncing every individual word in your head, but I just can't comprehend that.

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I was at the library today because I had to print some stuff out and by the computers they had this big display of books about space and planets and stuff because I guess a solstice is coming up this month, and this one caught my interest because I was really interested in black holes in space when I was younger, and I had heard of Neil DeGrasse Tyson.

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Anyone here ever read the unabridged version of Portrait of Dorian Gray? I've been meaning to do that because I have trouble believing that I read the less homoerotic version.

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(He never actually wrote "the love that dare not speak it's name." That was a line from some other guy's poetry that was quoted in his sham of a trial).
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>>41938506
I had a friend that had this big poster of Oscar Wilde. I kind of feel like it's still staring at me.

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I read another 50 pages today.

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>>41940339

and another 50 today
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Let me guess. Another 50 tomorrow.

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>>41940831

hopefully, although I'm not sure because I have a fairly long work shift tomorrow :/ (long relative to my experience)

I may read more tonight tho
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approx. 130 pages this morning/noon

I finished Lolita

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Moby Dick and The Art Of War were only 5 dollars (each)

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also

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Am still reading T.E. Lawrence by B.H. Liddell-Hart on Kindle. Is not particularly long but is a dry read and difficult to concentrate on for any length of time. Mostly I read it at work.

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>>41942077

I have read about 40 pages of this >>41942072 and I am finding it to be very challenging, so I have resorted to using some online summaries to better understand the plot/characters.

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>>41942081

Best to check out multiple translations and at least one fully annotated edition. The worst thing you can do is pay any mind to that Brad Pitt movie.
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>>41942087

the version I'm reading has, according to the intro, been translated for more general enjoyment rather than for scholarly study, which I think is a good thing.

there is a glossary and stuff but I'm not seeing annotations on the pages where the actual story/poem is.

I'm enjoying it a lot, I'm really just having a bit of trouble keeping track of the story.

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Technically I'm reading The Minority Report by Phillip K. Dick. In reality I haven't picked that shit up in weeks because my interest in reading took a nosedive when my other hobbies got in the way.

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>>41942111
IIRC, that's less than 20 pages. How can you not finish it in one sitting?

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>>41942160

Not giving a shit lol

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i'm re-reading the untold tale of ozman droom by robin spriggs.

it's a really interesting piece of meta-fiction that's a bunch of short stories and poems written by a fictional author, but it's also about his apotheosis into some kind of eldritch god akin to the king in yellow. the story of his apotheosis is mostly told thru footnotes and perceived "mis-prints" in the text. also a couple of stories directly relate to ozman becoming something more than himself, it's a really well done and complicated book for only being 205 pages.

>>41927134
oh man that looks cool! also yeah, luthien is best girl, she kills morgoth and doesn't afraid of anything.

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Almost a hundred pages into The Illiad so far. it's very good but I'm not gonna lie, I basically NEED online summaries to understand the plot. I had to re-read an entire section because I just realized I barely understood anything that had happened even though I thought the poetry was wonderful. But then I went on sparknotes and just read a brief summary of the main plot points, and re-read the whole thing carefully and I feel like I understood it much better.

Then before I even read the next section, I read the sparknotes summary first, so I already had an understanding of the general plot before reading the actual book, which actually made it a lot easier to enjoy the section because it just made more sense.
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>>41942081

Trying to read the original Shakespeare is also fun. Even some of the more conservative translations can be tricksy.

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>>41942029

What did you make of Lolita? Like what did it leave you to walk away with?

>>41942366
>the untold tale of ozman droom

That actually sounds interesting. Added to my infinite list of to-read.
And danke. When disgusting casuals say that Tolkien never had female characters who did stuff it's like my dude... My man. I mean, the Silm's gender ratios is still super imbalanced but Luthien is so cool. She literally burgled satan. She also beat the shit out of Sauron, but I think Sauron only really won a 1v1 fight like once.

>>41942432

I don't think it's even possible to fully enjoy Shakespeare as a modern audience without notes on the slang and little bits of cultural attitude that make no sense now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPlpphT7n9s

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>>41942492

>What did you make of Lolita? Like what did it leave you to walk away with?


in response to this I will post some snippets of conversation I had with a friend about the book, rather than re-type all my thoughts:

MAJOR SPOILERS

>early in the book impressions

I don't really sympathize with him as of now. I mean I like "his" (or really Nabokov's) prose, but I think the way he describes his desires is pretty gross. But it's well-written enough and interesting enough that I will keep reading. Unfortunately the introduction to the version I got basically spoiled the whole ending. but I still want to read it. it's already not as good as Moby Dick though lol. but I think now that I have read that I will have a pretty high standard for prose

>200 pages in


so I am 200 pages into Lolita
here are my thoughts so far
the prose is very good
but Humbert is a despicable character
I don't really understand how anyone could sympathize with him past a certain point
in a recent chapter I read he referred to Lolita as his "child slave"
he also says that she cries "every night, every night" after their "love" activities
he contemplated killing his second wife just so he could take full control of Lolita and was only robbed of commiting the act by chance
as soon as it got to the point where he was meticulously planning to drug her at the hotel, I lost any bit of faith I may have had in his character (and I didn't really have any to begin with). that is beyond unforgivable and it is the opposite of a love story.
he also breaks the fourth wall and literally begs the reader to sympathize with him. he constantly tries to rationalize/justify his abuse--"oh, it's okay to rape her every day because I'm buying her nice things and taking her to movies." it's psychotic
but that said, I find the story very thrilling. there is a lot of suspense and humor among the really dark overall themes. it is very well-written, and I'm enjoying it
also, I have observed that Humbert rarely spends much time describing what Lolita herself actually says or how she acts at any point. he is very self-absorbed and it really seems like he only likes her as a sexual object, he often shows disdain for her actual personality.


>after finishing


It was good, but I had some issues with it. It seems like in the last fourth of the book, after Lolita is "kidnapped" by Quilty, the book shifts focus to all this stuff that doesn't seem to really matter and is less interesting than all of Humbert's exploits with Lolita. and even after he meets her when she's pregnant, it doesn't seem like there is real closure. but maybe that's intentional? it fits with the theme of Lolita not really mattering to Humbert. There was also one particular chapter where it seems like Humbert actually suddenly admits that he knows how damaging he was to her and what an awful person he was. it was a weird section of clarity among all of his rationalization and justification he did for most of the book. and then when he finally finds and kills Quilty, it was very awkwardly paced, and not at all like I expected, with Quilty seeming to barely care that he is being murdered, and then the other guests who Humbert finds downstairs congratulating him on the murder, it seems so surreal that I wonder if he just imagined it. and I think killing Quilty was essentially meant to represent killing himself, because Quilty was kind of like Humbert but less villainous. he did unnacceptable things, like the referenced filming and orgy stuff, but (supposedly) he never abused Lolita like Humbert did, and Lolita went with him willingly to escape Humbert, and Humbert detests this because in a sense he wishes he had been capable of doing it himself, Quilty was like a mirror of himself in a lot of ways, but not as evil. I think that's part of why Quilty is barely even described as a character, he's kind of just there when the plot needs him to be and not much else, and maybe that's why he's so impartial to dying.


so yeah those are some of my general thoughts on Lolita

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>>41942432
Translation? You'd best be joking, boyo. EM English isn't really considered a separate dialect, much less a different language.
>>41942492
Only for dumbass jocks and idiots who copied their way through English class or tried to get away with copying wiki articles for essays.

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I really like this passage from The Art Of War:

6. Indirect tactics, efficiently applied, are inexhaustible as Heaven and Earth, unending as the flow of rivers and streams; like the sun and moon, they end but to begin anew; like the four seasons, they pass away to return once more.

7. There are not more than five musical notes, yet the combinations of these five give rise to more melodies than can ever be heard.

8. There are not more than five primary colors (blue, yellow, red, white, and black), yet in combination they produce more hues than can ever been seen.

9. There are not more than five cardinal tastes (sour, acrid, salt, sweet, bitter), yet combinations of them yield more flavors than can ever be tasted.

10. In battle, there are not more than two methods of attack--the direct and the indirect; yet these two in combination give rise to an endless series of maneuvers.

11. The direct and the indirect lead on to each other in turn. It is like moving in a circle--you never come to an end. Who can exhaust the possibilities of their combination?

12. The onset of troops is like the rush of a torrent which will even roll stones along in its course.

13. The quality of decision is like the well-timed swoop of a falcon which enables it to strike and destroy its victim.

14. Therefore the good fighter will be terrible in his onset, and prompt in his decision.

15. Energy may be likened to the bending of a crossbow; decision, to the releasing of a trigger.

16. Amid the turmoil and tumult of battle, there may be seeming disorder and yet no real disorder at all; amid confusion and chaos, your array may be without head or tail, yet it will be proof against defeat.

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>>41919123
I like the part in the Baghavad Gita where Prince Arjuna is going to kill a bunch of people with his army but then shows remorse but then Krishna says basically You are meant to do this, this is your Karma, they have died many deaths before and will long after and it is all Brahman anyway, so kill them because it is your destiny and so he does, he kills a bunch of people because god is more wise than the ephemeral wills of mortals.

It makes an interesting story, no?

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I finished The Art Of War! Although apparently the copy I have has a second version within it that is extensively annotated, if I ever want to read it again with a deeper analysis/comprehension.

I am downloading the Arthashastra which is referenced in the introduction to my copy of The Art Of War as being "The Indian Art Of War". I will read this at some point, it is over 600 pages long though and seems far more exhaustive and detailed than what Sun Tzu wrote, however it was written even earlier.

The fact that these texts have survived so long and been translated into so many languages fascinates me. The Art Of War was originally written in Chinese, yet it still sounds very poetic and methodical in English.

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So...apparently, there are both poetry and prose versions of The Illiad. Someone on /lit/ recommended me a specific prose translation to try, because I've been having trouble understanding the poetry version here >>41942072

I'm actually really thankful for that, I'm hoping this improves my comprehension and enjoyment of the book. I had no idea a prose version even existed, but I managed to find his recommended version online.
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>>41945967

so far the prose version (translated by Fagles) has been much more understandable, and I think in general reading the story in prose format is more enjoyable, it just...flows better, sounds more natural.

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As far as shakespeare goes, I suggest watching the plays rather than reading them. I've always found it much, much easier to follow when you watch them.

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>>41945990
wait does anyone like... read shakespeare plays like a book to be entertained?

thats like reading the fucking script to star wars

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>>41946095

Funny you should say that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR8vopHwKzY

And yes, it's fun to just read, though it's better to read out loud, specifically. Even if just in front of a mirror or something.
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>>41946095
I'd highly recommend watching a recording of a play or even better, seeing one live. It can take two or three shakespeare plays to fully get past the language barrier(I was confused the first time I watched one) but once it clicks, you really appreciate the deep humanity of the dramas or the hilariousness of the comedy.
As far as film adaptations, I've yet to see a really good Othello production. I saw As You Like It live and in film, the film was fairly good but the play was fucking excellent. Macbeth is your best shot for a good adaption on screen as there are a handful of really good adaptations to choose from. Probably because its short run time means that it can be put to film without heavy editing for time. Romeo and Juliet has some good film versions though people tend to do goofy shit with it. The 90's version was a surprisingly good adaptation but the whole gimmick of "shakespearean english in 90's california" is super distracting. West side story is a loose as fuck adaptation but a fairly good film on its own merits.
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>>41946603

Fishburn Othello was pretty good, though like almost all film shakespeare, had quite a few abridged bits. Some for the better.

For Macbeth, Throne of Blood is the undisputed best, but I like the Jason Connery version best, even though it cut out the famous Porter's speech, but I don't mind much since that scene, as funny as it is, messes with the flow and causes mood whiplash.

The big-budget 2015 version is okay, but made some odd cinematic choices, like instead of Birnam Wood coming, the army sets it on fire to cover their approach and give the director the excuse to have the final battle dramatically backlit in orange glow and cinders. I give that version credit for not pussying out and toning down the murder of MacDuff's family or having it occur off-screen. They actually took it a step further.

I'm not fond of how they toned down Lady Macbeth. Instead of gleefully evil, she's portrayed as melancholic and possibly postnatal PTSD from loosing a child at the beginning. And the Wyrd Sisters speaking dully and monotonously instead of gleefully cackling is a bummer as well. The witches and Lady Macbeth in the Connery version are far superior.
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Everyone should check out The Hollow Crown.

Much like the 2015 Macbeth, it's pretty obviously designed to appeal to Game of Thrones fanboys. The main disappointment was that version of Henry V. As much as I adore Tom Hiddleston, Branagh and Brian Blessed's deliveries are just better, and cutting out the Southampton Plot scene was unforgivable.

Also, Ben Whishaw and Benedict Cumberbatch both knocked their roles out of the park.

It was a pretty cool idea to change the dispute in the rose garden from some undefined legal point to Plantagenet asserting a claim to the throne, tying the War of Roses back to the initial dispute of Richard vs Bolingbroke and the series' overarching Game of Thrones-esque theme summed up in the line No matter where; of comfort no man speak:
Let's talk of graves, of worms, and epitaphs;
Make dust our paper and with rainy eyes
Write sorrow on the bosom of the earth,
Let's choose executors and talk of wills:
And yet not so, for what can we bequeath
Save our deposed bodies to the ground?
Our lands, our lives and all are Bolingbroke's,
And nothing can we call our own but death
And that small model of the barren earth
Which serves as paste and cover to our bones.
For God's sake, let us sit upon the ground
And tell sad stories of the death of kings;
How some have been deposed; some slain in war,
Some haunted by the ghosts they have deposed;
Some poison'd by their wives: some sleeping kill'd;
All murder'd: for within the hollow crown
That rounds the mortal temples of a king
Keeps Death his court.
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XD

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Halfway through The Iliad, it's very good.
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>>41946631
It makes sense, considering Game of Thrones is based on the same source material.

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>>41950912

I finished The Iliad!

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>>41953117

The Odyssey is way better (though I only read the Wishbone version. Remember Wishbone?)

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>>41953332

I plan to read that at some point but not now, I have heard varying opinions on the two (I have a friend who thinks The Iliad is better and Homer's best work in general).

Next up is Stoner by John Williams.

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I read like a third of Stoner in just two hours lol

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I've started reading the Disaster Artist in anticipation of the new movie.

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I'm reading Mark Twain's Life on the Mississippi.

I'm slightly freaked to find, reading this thread, that a lot of people read Shakespeare in modern English renditions. Why? It's not hard to get into Elizabethan English once you get the hang of it. Heck, even Chaucer is readable--

A thousand tymes have I herd men telle,
That ther is joye in heven, and peyne in helle;
And I acorde wel that hit is so;
But natheles, yit wot I wel also,
That ther nis noon dwelling in this contree,
That either hath in heven or helle y-be,
Ne may of hit non other weyes witen,
But as he hath herd seyd, or founde hit writen.

You can't understand Chaucer read out loud ("A thoo-zund tee-muss hovvy heyrd men tella..."), but English spelling is so persistently quaint that it isn't hard to get 90% of it in its written form and make an educated guess at the rest.

What makes Shakespeare tough, it seems to me, isn't that his language is archaic, but that it's extravagant:

The hearts
That spanieled me at heels, to whom I gave
Their wishes, do discandy, melt their sweets
On blossoming Caesar; and this pine is barked
That overtopped them all.

This was just as much a mindfuck in 1600 as in 2000. Making up words left and right is part of Shakespeare's weird power, and you lose that power when you translate him into Basic English.
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>>41954491
Middle English is best read out loud by imagining the speaker is totally falldown drunk and slurring every other inflection.

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>mfw the ending of Stoner

jesus christ, I feel unreal right now. I was in a great mood until the last 30 or so pages and now I just feel awful. I want to call like every friend and family member I have and ask them how they're doing, if they're alright.

I think this was the most depressing book I read so far. I mean there were parts in other books that came close but this whole book just has this sense of depression to it, with glimmers and sparks of happiness that crop up but inevitably get squashed by the nature of the main character's life.

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The hardbound Thrilling Adventures of Lovelace & Babbage.

Only complaint is it omitted the Organized Crime storyline. It had some of the best puns and references and mathematical jokes. Yeah, I know it's up on the website for free, but a hard copy is always good.

If you are a fan of math, science, computers and/or general Victoriana, you must read.

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>Pick up The Catcher in the Rye
>Read two pages
>Drop The Catcher in the Rye

It's like reading a blog but the blog goes on for the length of a novel.
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I ordered a used copy of the Penguin Deluxe edition of The Tale Of Genji (paperback). It could arrive as early as friday, and it was only 12 dollars.

I'm excited!

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>>41955608

Holden is a whiny little shit.

Check out Stand Alone Complex season 1. Aoi-kun is a real rolemodel, worth shooting a president or a Beatle for.

Down with the damn phony normies. (that is to say normies who are also phonies. Not fake normies).
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>>41955608
So like 1/3 of all pchan posts?

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>>41955609
does it have the intro by lady murasaki? i loved reading that more than the actual novel itself.

i really want to find if her diaries are translated somewhere.

>>41955608
yeah, catcher in the rye is kinda garbage. i finished it and ended up hating holden. i mean, sure he went thru some shit, but goddamn he's whiny.

the end is good though. if you want good salinger, check out franny and zoey. it's also really bloggy, but the characters are interesting. sure franny is preppy as fuck, but she's got a pathos that holden doesn't have.

>>41955657
ayy!

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>>41955690
>does it have the intro by lady murasaki? i loved reading that more than the actual novel itself.

I dunno

I'm going to attempt to read The Crying Of Lot 49 in full today. It's less than 200 pages so it should be doable.

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>>41955776
>I'm going to attempt to read The Crying Of Lot 49 in full today.

did it

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T H I C C

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>alright you know what i'll pick up infinite jest again how hard can it be
>mfw

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>>41956720
oh my god all that time you talked about that book i thought you were exaggerating

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>>41956730
throw it in the treeeeesh

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Have you guys ever read On the Road? What are your thoughts on it?

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>>41956742
i like it as a travelogue, kerouac and most of the beats were really good at writing about travelling, but kerouac excelled at it.

>>41955776
>>41955905
how was it?

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>>41956772

It was pretty good. Basically the story is about this woman who unintentionally becomes the executor of the will of someone she had an affair with, and it leads her into this whole conspiracy that is kind of silly about a secret postal service, and spoilers basically everyone she knows ends up dying or leaving her in some way, from her husband to her lawyer to her psychiatrist and others, and she becomes paranoid and thinks she's seeing evidence of the conspiracy everywhere she goes, and in the final part of the book there isn't really any closure on whether the conspiracy was real, but the message of the book is that it never really mattered, and she became consumed by paranoia and delusion. Some people have apparently interpreted it as a meta-commentary on the political climate of the modern world, especially during the 60s/70s.

ALSO I am over 100 pages into The Tale Of Genji already, it's fucking great, and the large amount of footnotes and occasional illustrations in the version I got are very helpful to understand various things with the plot/characters. It's a great edition of the book.
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>>41956772
>i like it as a travelogue
Same. It's way to slice of lifey to be enjoyable if it was in just one place, but he made it work really well. I admit I'm not very well versed in beat literature though, could you recommend me anything else?
Also, completely unrelated, but if you like science fiction and cyberpunk, I highly recommend Neuromancer. It can come off as being a little cheesy, but that's simply because of how many copies and derivative stories there are.
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>>41956997
Do you mean Neuromancer?

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>>41957032
Oops, fixed.

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I doubt I'll find anyone else reading what I'm reading for a while yet. I've been reading Katherine Kurtz' Legends of Camber, a trilogy about this dude called Camber of Culdi.

I learned of this book because I bought the women's literature bundle in Humble Bundle a while back, and the first book of this trilogy was in that bundle.

Honestly it's a pretty fun book but there's such a focus on describing rituals (especially of the religious kind) that I get lost sometimes. The characters are alternatively kinda dumb and illustrious geniuses and that bothers me a bit.
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>>41957045

Humble Bundle does books??

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>>41957159
Yes? They've had bundles for the pony comics twice by now.
https://www.humblebundle.com/books/adventure-travel-books

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>>41957180

Damn. I stopped getting updates from them because I realized I kept buying games that I never even played.

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>>41957185
I know that feel.
Well, now I have a bunch of books to read through. In all honesty I haven't even read all of the pony comics from the latest bundle they had a few months back.

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Are we only allowed to talk about non-illustrated literature here?

Most recent (non-pony fanfic) thing I read was both volumes of Sabrina Online. Now, after over 20 years, the adventure is continuing.

https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Sabrina_Online#Sequel

http://www.sabrina-online.com/2017-01.html

God, I miss the 90s.

(Sabrina's uptight mom becoming friends with Zig after discovering what she does for a living. Who saw that coming?)
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The Tale Of Genji is so good

but it's also filled with like the most sadness and misery of any story I've ever read or watched

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Finished the Legends of Camber, the last 20% of the last book was pretty damn sad.

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>>41958212
>mfw I learn there is a trilogy that leads up to the trilogy I just finished reading and then two more trilogies following it

Oh screw that. In all honesty while I was entertained by the books, the descriptions of locations and rituals drags on and I tend to gloss over that shit.

Another problem I had was that, sometimes, wise and careful characters would act with extreme carelessness that would get them literally killed, while random nobodies that didn't seem to matter at all to the story made huge leaps of logic that made barely any sense and yet were absolutely correct. It's just so unbelievable.
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>>41958212
>the legends of camber

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>>41958452
I see the filename but I don't get the joke

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>>41958453
"camber" is what that stupid cunt has done to his wheels so he can show off that his $750 merc scrapes when he goes over a pebble

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>>41958453

Camber is the angle of the tires relative to the road. Normals cars should have a 0 degree camber so that the full tread pattern is in contact with the road during normal driving conditions. Some high performance cars will have an outward camber to maximize tread contact while drifting at high speed. Finally some low-performance cars will have an extremely exaggerated camber because their owners delight in spending vast sums of money on new tires every 3 months for no reason.
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Finished Robots of Dawn.

Giskard is Jar-Jar.

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My library is doing their big book sale that only happens twice a year and I got 13 books for less than 7 dollars and almost all of them were classics in decent condition.

Among them were The Iliad and The Odyssey, Dosteovsky's Demons, The Canterbury Tales, Romeo And Juliet, The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo, and of course more.

I'm hype as fuuuck

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>>41959631
After the Elijah Baley trilogy, go right to the Foundation series (all 7 of them. it's not a "trilogy").

The Empire series and the Second Foundation series written after his death can be skipped.

The Robot City and Robots and Aliens cycle have a special place in my heart, even though they're written by a bunch of different guys.

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>>41959683
F&E was actually the first Asimov I ever read. Gotta hop back on that arc.

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Just about 400 pages into The Tale Of Genji. 800 more to go, lol

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>>41960716

FUCK I can't find good chapter summaries online, every site wants you to pay, and the last chapter really confused me, and I'm losing track of the relations between a lot of the main characters.

wat do

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>>41962006
Pirate Rosetta Stone, learn Japanese and ask in a native forum.

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>>41962006
He needs healing.

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Anyone know any good westerns that aren't pulpy airplane novel things? I know about Blood Meridian.

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>>41969165

>Anyone know any good westerns that aren't pulpy airplane novel things?


OH, I know, Bloo--

>I know about Blood Meridian.


fugg

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>>41969169

The genre has so much potential but I get the feeling that the average book is some James Patterson-type shit.

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>>41969171

Maybe some of McCarthy's other works like No Country For Old Men? Although I don't think it's as much of a "western" as Blood Meridian.

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>>41969176

Read it!

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>>41969190

I've only seen the movie, although it is pretty much my favorite movie ever

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>>41969192

Great movie, great book. I'd say the book is better because it goes into more detail on Llewelyn's relationship with that redheaded girl you see at the pool in the movie.

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bump because I need to get more into it again

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Ah, I'm boring, but in reading Hayek on Individualism and economics, while also reading "Unions and Right-to-Work Laws: Evidence of their impact on Employment."

Good reads if you're into economics
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I DID IT I DID IT I FINISHED THE TALE OF GENJI 1120 PAGES pfjoieiwjfewjfewjc

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Fuck, I need to get back to reading The Golden Compass, and then the other two books in the His Dark Materials trilogy, since I have all three.

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>>41973454

It's THE NORTHERN LIGHTS, fool.

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>>41973456
Either way, same book.

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So after seeing the trailer for the upcoming "12 Strong" I went out and bought the book "Horse Soldiers" by Doug Stanton. This is the story about 5th Special Forces groups in the invasion of Afghanistan. I ended up reading the entire book yesterday. It was pretty good but then it's about a subject that I'm pretty passionate about to begin with having read several other books on the subject previously. Most notably: "Jawbreaker: The Attack on Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda: A Personal Account by the CIA's Key Field Commander" by Gary Berntsen.

Now the book itself is basically a series of combat reports padded out with the personal back-stories of the key players to make it into a fairly thick novel. The combat report parts are very good, the backstory parts vary depending on how much is the key player's words and how is the author extrapolating. I don't think I've read anything else by Doug Stanton but he strikes me as being fairly poor writer. One paragraph that especially stood out to me was where he was describing the armored fighting vehicles used by the Taliban and got almost every detail wrong. Like stating that a "T-52*" fires a 6-inch shell and a BMP is armed with a 100mm gun, a 30mm cannon and 3 MG's. What he actually meant to say was that the T-55* is armed with a 100mm gun as well as a coaxial MG and a .50 MG on the commander's cupola, a BMP can be armed with a 76mm gun or a 30mm cannon depending on the model as well as a coaxial MG.
Now you know I don't expect an author to be a walking military encyclopedia but it wouldn't have killed him to glance at Wikipedia for a moment during proofreading. It's seems quite clear there was a game of Telephone going on between whoever told him about the Talibans equipment, his note-taking and the book-writing. There were numerous other author-injections like that that tended to break the flow of the story but that was the most egregious to me.

Still overall a good book, hopefully Hollywood doesn't ruin the movie too badly.

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got Shogun from my library, pretty excited to read it

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I will be reading Dune and Farewell to Arms during the rest of this week.

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>>41973770
That description reminds me of a BMP-3 to be honest.

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>>41973453
how was it?
in terms of story and readability

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>>41979427

It was like...good for the first few hundred pages, but once you're deep into the second half, it gets super tedious and at times boring.

I think the problem is that a lot of the same things seem to just happen over and over but with different characters and the characters aren't even super different from each other so it just feels like you're almost reading the same story multiple times.

The translation I read had pretty simple, plain prose with a lot of the same adjectives repeated countless times--but there were poetic/well-written sections.

The characters are very difficult to keep track of because there are so many of them, and I couldn't find any good resources online, there's no sparknotes page for this book.

It has an abrupt ending and I would say it was unsatisfying but honestly by that point I was feeling like it should have ended about 400 pages ago.

Overall I wouldn't really recommend it unless you are super interested in it and don't mind dealing with a lot of boring stuff to experience the good stuff.

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So I'm about 150 pages into Shogun now, and like...I like it, but it's easily my least favorite of the books I've read this year.

It just feels like this massive collection of unlikely power fantasies, kinda. It reads like some kind of action/drama anime but with excessive detail and occasionally some really cringeworthy scenes.

And the prose is just...nothing special at all, it's so plain and blunt and artless, it gets especially bad with some of the back and forth dialogue where there is no form of emphasis or connotation used to elevate anything they're saying and it's just grating.

it's still a fun read though, I've just accepted that it will be the kinda "trashy" thing I read for the year.

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Reading the older Wlecome to Nightvale book. Wanted an aperitif before trying to read Goblin Emperor.
Tried starting Goblin Emperor but realized I'd need to do what I did for the Prydain Chronicles and make a glossary of character names to remember them. Only a couple chapters in and I loved it, though.

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>>41980594
>I hated Moby Dick.

why?

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So I got some new books through the mail recently. Mutual Aid: A factor of Evolution by Kropotkin, Thus Spoke Zarathustra and The Ego and it's Own.
I'm starting with Kropotkin. Should all take a couple months to finish reading.

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>>41979414
I tried to read Dune a while ago, but I remember it being incredibly dull, so I lost interest early on.

>>41980594

>I recently finished "The Complete Cthulhu Mythos Tales.
How did you like it?

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>>41980704
>Zarathustra

Who translated? Not his Nazi cunt of a sister, I hope.

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>>41980746
It has an introduction by her but the translation is by some Thomas Common fellow.
I read genealogy of morals and beyond good and evil, both a few times over, some years ago so it should be an interesting experience to further my nietzsche study.

It'll be an interesting contrast to see how Kropotkin and Nietzsche compare. Both are influential in anarchism and both take a sort of darwinian power struggle approach to life and history. Where kropotkin largely differs though is his focus on rational altruism and mutual aid. Essentially looking at the role of sociability, cooperation, in nature and how it's as prevalent and important as competition. Largely a refutation of that one against all form of social darwinism in his day. Which leads his political theory towards mutual aid based, semi-communist, anarchism. I think it'll be neat how both of them have near opposite tones and conclusions but traffic in similar fields of ideas.

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>>41979414
>>41980710

I kind of want to read Dune.

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>>41980789
Read fucking Dune.
>>41980710
why

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Screw the haters, the Lynch/Smithee movie is awesome. Some parts deserved to be cut for the theatrical release (the ridiculous heart plug bullshit), but other stuff like the more complete intro, the Weirding Way being killer voice laser boxes instead of Flash Kung Fu, the Mentat mantra and the general design and aesthetics are nothing short of iconic.

On the other hand, what was supposed to be big epic battle scenes was nothing more than people running back and forth across the sound stage with unconvincing pyrotechnics in the background.

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>someone I know convinced me to look into book clubs at my local library
>met with the woman who runs one and agreed to go (it's once a month)
>book we're reading is Friday Night Lights (and I should probably start soon)
>there's only like one other guy there

oh god what have I done

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A whale book? Sounds like a ripoff of Free Willy.

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>>41982899

Orcas are dolphins, yah fool.

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>>41982904
*porpoises

and no, they're not the same. they belong to the family phocoenidae, parvorder odontoceti(which means toothed whale). dolphins aren't a part of that family, because of all the various different types of dolphins, they're an informal grouping within the cetacean family anyway.

*edit*
oh wait oceanic dolphins are in their own little subsection and orcas are a part of that despite sharing more in common with porpoises? weird, it's probably a genetic ancestor thing.
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bump for encouragement

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I'm most of the way through reading this. (It's crazy long.)

It's about how much violence of every kind has actually been decreasing dramatically over time and examines scientific studies from statistics, political science, economics, and psychology to try to determine what factors in humanity and society cause violence and what factors inhibit it.

It's crazy how much people tend to romanticize the past when claiming modern society is responsible for moral decay and that we'd be better off returning to a more natural state, when in reality people were about 100 times as likely to be either murdered, killed in a war or raid, or slaughtered in a genocide in primitive, pre-state societies and about 10 times as likely to be killed in one of these ways in medieval societies as they are in modern societies, even when including the deaths from the world wars and the mass genocides perpetrated by the Nazis, Soviets, and Chinese.

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>>41984255

that sounds interesting, I would like to read that.

also, the more I think about it, the more I'm not sure I want to continue reading Shogun, especially with the library book club book tacked on.

It's just...I don't think it's bad, but I just do not find it as engaging as pretty much anything else I've read this year.

like every time I think "you know I should really do some reading in that book tonight" it's just like uhhhhhhggggghhhh and now I'm thinking about all the other stuff I could read that I might enjoy more...

I kinda feel like I want to try something more historical, like something nonfiction and informative.

but at the same time, I feel like since I'm already almost 200 pages into Shogun, it would feel shitty to abandon it...

what do you guys think? is giving up on a book, at least temporarily, acceptable? I'm starting to feel like I don't want to read because of it and I think that's a problem.

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i am fucking loving this book
gonna marathon it

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>>41984315
Giving up on a book is absolutely acceptable. If you're not enjoying it, there's no point in continuing to read it, even if you were on the last page.

Wanting to continue doing something just because you've already spent a lot of time on it is just the sunk-cost fallacy.

I've given up on plenty of books, and I don't worry about it, because I can always just go back and start reading them again if I ever start to regret giving them up.

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>>41984318
there are those books that make it all worth it on the last page

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>>41984320
Yeah, but you usually don't know if you're reading one of those kinds of books. More often, disappointing books have disappointing endings.

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>>41984322
can't deny that
can you think of a book that made it all worth it
the ones that come to mind weren't bad beforehand anyway
like 100 years of solitude, or a couple lovecraft stories

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>>41984323
I read mostly non-fiction, and I definitely haven't read any non-fiction books like that.

Of the fiction books I've read, I can't think of anything. Usually the climax and/or twist ending is before the last page or even the last chapter.

I believe the peak climax of The Martian was in the last few pages, but that book was good all the way through.

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>>41984324
there's a book called what if that's all about alternate paths of history and what would've happened if something in the roman empire had gone different

come to think of it would you call that fiction or non-fiction

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>>41984326
I think alternate history is generally considered fiction

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>>41984324
>>41984323
>>41984322
>>41984320
>>41984318

alright, well, I browsed through a lot of recommendations I have saved over the last few months and downloaded some of the ones that particularly stood out to me and I'm gonna try at least one of them tonight.

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>tfw don't know how to tell what makes poetry good or bad

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I talked to Elicoor about this a little bit. What is your guys' opinion of On the Road by Jack Kerouac?
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I'm off to a pretty solid start on the book club book. It's nowhere near as dense as most other stuff I read this year.
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i'm currently reading The Disaster Artist, it's a book about the making of one of the worst movies ever made, The Room. It's really interesting to see what went on behind the scenes of the scenes and how insane Tommy Wiseau is
James Franco is making a movie out of it and i'm really excited for that

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>>41984983
Oh yeah, I'm really looking forward to that movie too. I love The Room.

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>>41984986
me too, it's just so bizarre on so many levels
the book really gives you a lot of insight into the absurdity of Mr. Wiseau's life
the book describes him as seeming to have little to no understanding about how human interaction or even the English language works much less the film making process. it also states he was and still is SUPER secretive about his life, refusing to talk about where he got the money to fund The Room, how old he is, where he was born, and other basic information like that, he really is like some kind of Alien just appeared on earth and tried to make a movie

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>>41984997
Huh, interesting. Hopefully most of that stuff is in the movie.

I was interested in the movie partly because I don't know much about him, other than he claimed to be American born, which is obviously hard to believe given how he talks. It sounds like the main thing people know about him is that nobody really knows anything about him.

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am joining another book club in addition to the one I already just joined

so I simultaneously have to read Friday Night Lights and War Of The Worlds

they both seem like easy books. War Of The Worlds is only like 200 pages and I don't need to finish it until the 13th of next month. If I really wanted to I could probably do it in a couple days. The chapters are super short so it feels like I am progressing quickly, plus there isn't a ton of text on each page.

Friday Night Lights is closer to around 400 pages but I'm not actually required to have that finished at the next meetup, apparently everyone is kinda going at their own pace so I figure if I can get close to 200 pages done before the meetup (around 20 pages a day approx.) that should be fine.

with both groups, we will be watching the movies after finishing the books.

in some ways it feels like a lot of pressure but I'm actually pretty excited about it, I don't feel too worried, I think I can do it.

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>>41986143
if i could read war of the worlds in like 5th grade then you could knock that shit out in a day, yo

also i'd recommend not making fun into work
as long as you can still get into it casually and whatnot

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>>41986151

well, I'm not trying to make it into work but I do want to challenge myself and also I'm hoping the book clubs will be decent social experiences aside from just the required reading. I need to get better at that stuff, so that's part of my motive.

I still plan to read other stuff on my own time that I am more genuinely interested in.

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>>41986156
then that is an excellent flippin idea bro

i remember reading war of the worlds and imagining the protagonist just always always wore a leather jacket 'cuz i remembered seeing it in the trailer for the film, like, once
it was pretty funny when he was naked for some reason but i still pictured him in the leather jacket and nothing else
the thunderchild is a good chapter get hyped

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holy shit, on chapter 11 of War Of The Worlds, it's actually really fucking good, the last two or so chapters have been a huge payoff for what seemed like a bit of a slow start, the imagery of the storm and destruction and the "Thing" and the main character making his way through it all is really intense and suspenseful and is making me feel how I felt when I was getting super into some of the other books I've enjoyed this year.

I only stopped because I got mad hungry and then my brother came downstairs and started playing youtube videos on his phone 'n' shit. def gonna read tomorrow morning I think. already makes me want to dig deeper into sci-fi literature.
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>>41986226
i wanna read tales of a dying earth, star maker, and dune
i should've read dune by now

sci-fi is p cool
you read douglas adams?

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>>41986345

nah I haven't

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>>41986381
would recommend if you're lookin for funny sci fi

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I simply didn't had enough time to read lately. That is a shame.

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note to self: go to the library to grab that comic book tomorrow

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>>41986809
What comic?

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100+ pages into both Friday Night Lights and War Of The Worlds currently.

>>41986949

I forget the title, and I still haven't picked it up

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so uh...yeah...that whole book club thing...

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>>41988940

What happened

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>>41988946

went to it, was literally all old ladies. hung out thinking about it for about five minutes and then decided "fuck it" and told the woman running it I was having anxiety issues and had to leave.

there was no chance for genuine socialization (for me) there.

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Started First Blood. It's actually really good. Too bad the movie took out everything that makes the characters so compelling and the fact there was an interesting character dynamic at all.

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>>41988962

that's the Rambo one right?

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>>41988971

The only Rambo one. He dies in the end. There are no other Rambo stories outside the minds of hallucinating madmen. The same freaks who think there's more than two Alien movies or a 7th Star Wars.

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>>41988971

That it is.
Teasle and Rambo have like 50/50 split on pov and their takes on each other's actions are really interesting. Teasle is totally reasonable and his thoughts make for a perfect contrast to how unhinged Rambo still is from the war, but they're still not entirely dissimilar.
Also apparently the name Rambo came from some apples the author's wife brought home while he was trying to think of a name.

There doesn't seem to be a lot of art of this book despite how iconic the movie is so have some lotr.

>>41988972

It's always funny in a sad way reading how far authors go to not say their adaptation sucked without actually saying it was good. In the preface Morrell was like 'Haha yup... Sure did become its own thing in the movies...'

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I finished War Of The Worlds!!

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alright so here's my dilemma, since the book club for Friday Night Lights was a failure I'm wondering if I should even bother finishing that book, especially considering that I need to read a comic book for a comic book club I haven't even started yet, if I dropped Friday Night Lights (at least temporarily) it would take some pressure off and I could pick something to read that I actually WANT to read in addition to the comic book.

I was enjoying Friday Night Lights but ultimately I was reading it for the club which is now over and I'm not sure it's good enough to read of my own will. I feel like I would rather jump on to something a little more artsy and challenging, like Dune for example, or maybe some nonfiction stuff.

What do you guys think?

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>>41989624
I think you should give that old ladies club another chance. Don't be afraid to brown bag it.

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>>41989624
is there a college campus near you? might be lots of activities and stuff there, including reading groups

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>>41989683

I don't think there is one very close but I could look into it. There is a high school near me that does night classes for adults I think, but that might cost money, I'm not sure. And even that is still a few towns away so it's not that close.The library was really convenient because it's so close.
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I just read Jurassic Park, had the book for years but only just got to it. Found the motivation after watching a Jurassic World Film Theory video early this morning and polished it off in one go.

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so I started Dante's Inferno, is breddy gud

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>>41990434

Translator? If you say Longfellow, GTFO.

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>>41990438
I have a copy of that book,you should read it.

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>>41990446

I'm probably gonna read more of it today

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Hollander is best translation.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu8UiFz6QjM
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>>41990450

what is this?

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>>41990451

A compilation of different translations.

A pet peeve of mine is when schools say you have to use shit like MS Office because "it's the standard" and at the same time call demonstratively inferior shit like the Longfellow translation "the standard."

http://www.worldofdante.org/gallery_dore.html

But I digress. I don't know much Tuscan Italian. My sister is the scholar in that regard, but in my experience, the Hollander Divine Comedy is far easier to grok.
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>>41990452

what makes Longfellow inferior?

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https://wmjas.wordpress.com/2010/02/07/fifteen-translations-of-dante-compared/

Inconsistent split infinitives, superlatives and pronoun/verb arraignments.

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plan to finish Inferno today, only about 50 pages left, shouldn't take much more than an hour

bumping thread to stay motivated

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yee

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So far Rambo just acknowledges kills like 'Another no scope, moving on' and Teasle is the one who actually just realizes how horrifying these murders are. Plus these police guys and people helping in the manhunt are like actual likable people.
I knew Rambo was hardcore in the book but goddamn. He makes Stallone Rambo look like a reasonable dude.

>>41991930

Godspeed. You going for Purgatorio and Paradiso as well?

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>>41992140
I really should read these,as well.

Shame I am mostly interested on his take on hell.

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>>41992141

I tried slogging through them but they were boring as shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmOU9xVC9MA

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>>41992148
>he is just wandering into the woods

Proof positive that wooded areas are gateways to hell.

That is a good YouTube find by the way.

I assume it is an imperial he is wearing.
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>>41992140

at some point

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What do you guys think of Romeo And Juliet? Is it a good starting point for Shakespeare?

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>>41992301
Macbeth.

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>>41992301

It's adequate, I'm willing to bet you already know the story by heart though. Maybe go with A Midsummer Night's Dream or Macbeth instead.

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>>41992306
>>41992302

well, I ask, because I actually have a physical book copy of R&J, so I was hoping I could jump into that today. But I have a friend who says it's like his least favorite by Shakespeare so I'm not sure.

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>>41992307
Don't start with reading Shakespeare. Start with watching the plays.

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I'm rereading A Game of Thrones on my breaks at work.

Ned frustrates me to no end, and I loathe Sansa and Catelyn. Though I know that Sansa gets better in later books.

Tyrion is best boy.

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>>41992309

why? what makes them better?

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Which of the following books should I read first:

>Demons

>The Canterbury Tales
>The Sound And The Fury
>The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo

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>>41992311
You get dramatic readings of the lines, emotive acting, etc.
The plays were written to be performed since they're like plays. The first one you watch, it'll be hard to understand what they're talking about through the middle english dialect but by the second or third one you get a feel for it. Watching them also makes it quicker to get adjusted to understanding middle english. You can try to analyze it or just dive in when first reading a lot of middle english but shakespeare uses a lot of puns and subtleties. So the plays help with sorta learning the language better than reading.

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>>41992317
Seconding this. I can read Shakespeare just fine, but the plays (or movies if you're a scrub like me) help them come to life.

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>>41992318
And yeah, I've read shakespeare a couple times but the plays are bomb as fuck dude. I've watched about 5 of them and they're way better to watch. Hell, one of my fondest experiences with entertainment was watching a live production of As you Like It.

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>>41992319
>>41992318
>>41992317

alright, I'll hold off on reading Shakespeare for now

gotta find something tho

I have a very big word doc full of book recommendations I've saved for later
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>>41992321
You can watch macbeth in like two hours.
We're just saying that Shakespeare is better as a /tv/ rec than a /lit/ rec.

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Recommend:
Much Ado About Nothing (1993)
Othello (Fishburne)
The Hollow Crown
Macbeth (Jason Connery)
Henry V (Branagh)
Coriolanus (National Theatre Live)
A Midsummer Night's Dream (RSC 1996)
Julius Caesar (Charlton Heston)
The Tempest (BBC 1980)

There aren't really any film versions of Romeo and Juliet I really liked. Needless to say, the Decaprio version was poop. The 1968 Zeffirelli version was great, but it cut out Count Paris at the end.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjP6Gt_QLgX40xkmmYgQCbnrr2kL3r9he
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjP6Gt_QLgX684YgGcX_0caSVkmiaUTNW
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjP6Gt_QLgX6VqbVGih0ahcU3eHbJk9iO
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjP6Gt_QLgX42u97EocZPhidWnOPyWgzf
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alright, time to roll

1 = The Miracle Of Mindfulness
2 = Zen And The Art Of Archery
3 = The Origin Of Consciousness
4 = Beauty

Roll 1d4 = 4

(will be picking up Don Dellilo's Underworld at the library today most likely)

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>>41992345

>Don Dellilo's Underworld


so uh I picked this up and just read 100 pages of it

so needless to say it's pretty damn good

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>>41992514
shit fuck shit goddamn i wish i had time to rad more books

winter break pls hurry

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>>41992518

I was completely immersed

but it's funny because when I got done reading I went to my mom to try and tell her how good it was but I couldn't express it, I kept forgetting things and getting confused because I was like so worked up

it was like that snap back to reality effect

I also think it's because there were single paragraphs at some points that contained so many great/interesting things that trying to remember it all and analyze it without having it in front of me is tough
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>>41992520
What's the core concept? I could use something engrossing once I finish my reread.

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>>41992531

I really don't know yet. The prologue is about a famous baseball game that takes place on the day the Soviets launch some bomb that was an important part of the beginning of the Cold War. The one with that final home run where they say it was "the shot heard around the world" I think.

But then the first chapter switches to first-person perspective and becomes about a whole different subject and that whole prologue (which is like 50 pages long) only ends up being slightly relevant to the main character.

The main character is a guy who works for a waste cleaning business, he's in his 40s, married with kids. The first chapter is about him traveling to another state so he can see an older woman who had an affair with him when he was young for the first time in more than a decade.

The old woman runs an art group that paints wrecked planes in airfields left over from the Cold War. That's all I really know so far.

and btw none of that is really spoilers because the book is literally over a thousand pages long

I thought the baseball game was written extremely well, and I don't even like sports. It was very intense and suspenseful. I also like the older painter lady and what she says about war and why she does what she does but that's kind of hard to explain here because it was a lot of dialogue, it's not something that can be easily summarized.

I really have no idea where the story is going, I haven't looked at a single spoiler. I'm not even sure what genre the story technically is, although it seems like it's gonna stay grounded in reality and not go all sci-fi/fantasy, but who knows.
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>>41992793
Sounds pretty neat, especially the bit with the plane-based art project!

I'll add it to my reading list.

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>>41992795

yeah, my friend recommended it to me because I specifically asked for something that was modern and had really good prose, similar to Pynchon. (although I wouldn't say the prose in Underworld is as good as Pynchon)

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>>41992797
I haven't read any Pynchon. What would you recommend by him?

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>>41992798

I've only read two Pynchon books so far.

The Crying Of Lot 49 is a nice quick novella, about 150 pages, and is pretty good, but honestly I would say that if you think you're up for it, just go for Gravity's Rainbow.

Gravity's Rainbow is my second-favorite book I read this year. It's a huge mindfuck the whole way through. The prose is incredible. It's kind of like a huge story that contains lots of smaller stories within. Just be warned it gets very vulgar and graphic. There was one scene in particular that really freaked me out and I almost couldn't continue reading it. And I don't get freaked out by stuff easily.

I'd say the top 3 books I read this year are:

1. Moby Dick
2. Gravity's Rainbow
3. The Brothers Karamazov
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>>41992808
I have a pretty strong stomach, so I'll take a look.

What did you like about Moby Dick and The Brothers Karamazov?

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>>41992811

>Moby Dick


Best prose I read. Best setting--I like that almost the ENTIRE story takes place on a ship at sea, yet so much is able to be expressed in this simple context. There's just this tightness to the atmosphere, yet this epicness to the themes and the prose really shines where there's a lack of crazy action.

Just something about how the book does so much with what would seem like so little. Gravity's Rainbow, as good as it is, is a sprawling story across several years, dozens of locations, and literally hundreds of characters. Moby Dick manages to tell what was, to me, an even more compelling story, with just a crew of seamen hunting a whale for about 600 pages. There's a beauty in drawing out depth in what seems like simplicity. I think it shows a real imaginative skill. And I actually like the whale facts chapters--a lot of people don't--I thought they were interesting.

>The Brothers Karamazov


The SUSPENSE of some parts of that book was off the rails. I can't say much without spoiling it but just know that it's a murder mystery. It's a very, very long book (although not the longest I read this year) and although there are some boring parts there is always a payoff. Everything comes together in the end and once you've finished the last page you'll just be like "damn." That's the best I can put it.

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>>41992819
>whale facts
>facts
Come on, bro: he calls them fish at one point!

I definitely agree that you don't need a large setting if your characters and story are tight, though. Some of my favorite works take place in a limited environment, like Twelve Angry Men and Alien.

I haven't read a murder mystery in forever, so TBK is definitely going on my list too.

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>>41992808
i tried to read gravity's rainbow once because i wanted to seem smart and be able to say i've read it
i practiced speed-reading on it
it fried my fucking brain, i was mentally exhausted every time i put the book down

vineland's an easier read tho
i got through half of it
i'm still meaning to get back to it

>>41992827
>12 angry men
one of the top three best films i've ever seen

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>>41992829

I used an audiobook for probably two thirds of Gravity's Rainbow and the rest I just read the actual text. It took me a little over a month to finish, and that was with reading generally at least an hour or more every day.

btw I just read another 60 pages of Underworld

it's getting interesting, it has switched perspectives like three times, and also goes forward and backwards in the year(s) it takes place in.
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>>41992848
Sounds like what I've heard about Cloud Atlas.

>>41992829
Right?! A lot of the films I had to watch in school made me wish we were just reading the text, but that one was so good.
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Wow. Book Rambo is like... Jeez. He just gut-shot a ton of dogs and a few dudes. Like he didn't even go for quick kills, just right in the gut. He no scope'd a helicopter pilot so I don't think a bunch of dudes being like duhhhh on a cliffside would be that hard for him to get.
Also really noticing how the writing makes the Teasle and Rambo's inner thoughts and view of the same events really different without making it super noticeable at first. Rambo kind of talks to himself in his thoughts while Teasle ruminates over his own failures. But they both think over their actions and choices that led to this point and are pretty self-aware, at least.

>>41992179

No idea, he just wears random hats for each thing he made videos about. Here's his blog.
http://bettermyths.com/387-2/

>>41992310

I would fistfight any named character from asoif to protect Sansa Stark's smile. Catelyn is indeed garbage, though.
Tyrion is tied With Samwell for best boy in my personal rankings.

>>41992343

Romeo+Juliet is honestly great. The visuals were amazing and I'll never get over the guns labeled as swords. The biting the thumb scene was perfect, can't think of another version where they came off as the intensity of dipshittery that was going on between everyone that scene. I think Shakepeare himself would honestly like that film version the best. Gnomeo and Juliet would probably be a close third or fourth in his book, tho.

>>41992345

Is 4 Kerscoet's Beauty?

>>41992811
>Liking Moby Dick

Are you Fone Bone? Read that shit and thought any part without Queequeg or Moby and Ahab was boring as all hell.
Admittedly I last read it in grade school so my memory's probably failing a bit there.

>>41992827

12 Angry Men is why I started keeping my movie ticket stubs.

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>>41992911
>Is 4 Kerscoet's Beauty?

nope, Roger Scruton's Beauty: A Very Short Introduction

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>>41992911
>I would fistfight any named character from asoif to protect Sansa Stark's smile.
Before Ned's death, I would happily give her Viserys' crown.
"No, Joffrey, I don't mind if you flog my sister!"

>Tyrion is tied With Samwell for best boy in my personal rankings.

I don't remember Sam as clearly, so I look forward to getting refreshed on him.

>Liking Moby Dick

The fuck I do! Filename related.

>12 Angry Men is why I started keeping my movie ticket stubs.

I did that for a while, but I watch too many movies.

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>>41993024

ITT, GoT is pleb-tier.

Check out The Hollow Crown or Macbeth (2015).

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>>41993035
>GoT is pleb-tier.
No shit. Got any other hot takes, like water being handy for survival? It's a fun read, not a deep or obscure one.

>The Hollow Crown

>Bendydick Cuntysnack
Pass. I've yet to see him improve a piece by being in it.

>Macbeth (2015).

Might give this a shot, although Macbeth was never my favorite Shakespeare. Give me a good performance of The Lion in Winter any day. (Not Shakespeare, but it's something I like.)
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>>41993035
Heard lots of good things about https://www.rsc.org.uk/shop/item/63213-the-tempest-dvd-2017/

Though allegedly, Ian McKellan broke down in tears during filming of The Hobbit over the rampant CGI and computer trickery contaminating the traditional thespian craft.

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>>41993038
>Though allegedly, Ian McKellan broke down in tears during filming of The Hobbit over the rampant CGI and computer trickery contaminating the traditional thespian craft.
I heard that too, and saw photos that were supposedly of that moment. It was hard to say: he might've been crying, or just sighing or something.

I could believe he was crying, though: he was stuck alone in a room where everything was greenscreen, except for markers showing where Biblo and Thorin's faces would be in the final scene.

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A Wrinkle in Time is just like The Wizard of Oz, is it?

Pity any poor wannabe-intellectual schlemiel who gets conned into joining that lady's book club.

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i just got invisible cities by italo calvino as a christmas present. it's been interesting for the few pages i've read of it. it reads like interconnected prose poems, which is exactly my shit.

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>>41993988
>not liking books because someone likes it
you're arbitrarily closing avenues of happiness for yourself

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Rambo's just turning into a chase story now. The only thing keeping me from getting bored is the way Teasle and Rambo justify their own actions. Or actively don't bother to try to justify their actions, in Rambo's case. He's oddly self-aware and it makes all the shit he's doing even worse.

>>41992953

So it looks like a long thing about how art/beauty is subjective?

>>41993024

I think Samwell is best boy, upon reflection. Too bad he and Tyrion are unironically garbage boys in the show now.
Every piece of art I've seen anybody not do as actual published illustration is Queequeg/Ishmael. Dunno why that popped into mind, just throwing it out there. Also the word the correction thing suggests for Queequeg is 'Squeegee'.

>>41993038

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2017/12/20/104532-the-possible-return-of-sir-ian-mckellen-as-gandalf/

>>41993988

First of all, The Wizard of Oz book was fucking butch compared to the musical. Return to Oz actually got the feel of the books right.
Second off, Wrinkle in Time isn't anything like it. The girl who serves as the pov character would be the normie friend in any other story and it's interesting just for that. It's almost like if Harry Potter was from Neville's pov.

>>41994314

This.
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>>41994403
>So it looks like a long thing about how art/beauty is subjective?

so far it seems like an attempt to find objective traits of beauty, or at the very least understand why people find things beautiful. not sure how I feel about that, but it's interesting.
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>>41994403
>I think Samwell is best boy, upon reflection.
In the sense of being a good person, I agree. Tyrion's my favorite overall, but I'll admit he has his dark side.

>Every piece of art I've seen anybody not do as actual published illustration is Queequeg/Ishmael. Dunno why that popped into mind

'Cuase yer a dirty fujo!

>Also the word the correction thing suggests for Queequeg is 'Squeegee'.

Art of Queequeg washing cars in the nude when?

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So I'm almost 300 pages into Underworld. It's fantastic so far. The prose and dialogue just flow beautifully and makes reading it feel so easy but also very gripping.

It's the first book I've read all year where I'm this far in and still really have no idea what the actual plot is supposed to be or where it's leading to. But what seems to be a common theme is getting old, and I find this very compelling because I am a young person and this book feels like a window to the lives of middle-aged and also elderly people in a way that I've never really experienced before.

There is so much to getting old, there are the health issues, the family and job issues, the reflections on your life that come to you as you get older, the reminiscing about a past that doesn't exist anymore, the obsessive behavior people exhibit in desperate attempts to validate themselves and their lives, the disconnects between a man or woman and the families and homes they have created for themselves, the immoral temptations, the forever unanswered questions of what will happen to the people and places you finally leave behind, it just goes on and on and on and it's fascinating.

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>mom got me the exact book I wanted for christmas (War And Peace, the right translation, hardcover)
>didn't realize it was in really crappy condition (it was used)
>have to get it exchanged for a better condition copy on amazon

well...that's kind of a bummer, but it's not really her fault.

>feelguy.jpg

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yeet

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I got two books for Christmas: Little Brother, and Free Culture

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>Mom got me every book Carrie Fisher wrote

Yasss

>>41994500

I'm not sure there's ever really concrete things to be considered beautiful. It's all subjective to the time and place a culture's in. The only two things I can think of are physical traits a life of luxury allows and what is considered healthy. Like in the west how pale skin was attractive because they could afford to not toil outside while tanned skin is attractive now because they can afford to lounge outside.

>>41994509

Tyrion would've probably been a better person in all but humility if he hadn't had such a toxic homelife. I think even his mom living would've made all the difference. But as is he's been poisoned by being around other Lannisters so long.
Also nothing beats finding GoT art purely book-influenced. It's so rare and lovely.

>'Cuase yer a dirty fujo!


No I'm just dying of thirst.

>Art of Queequeg washing cars in the nude when?


No.

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>>41996307
>Carrie Fisher wrote
Welp, I've got research to do.

>Tyrion would've probably been a better person in all but humility if he hadn't had such a toxic homelife. I think even his mom living would've made all the difference.

Definitely. That was half the reason Tywin hated him, after all.

>But as is he's been poisoned by being around other Lannisters so long.

Cersei in particular. Hell, pretty much every shitty snowball is set into motion by either Cersei, Catelyn, or Lyssa. You can't deny that GRRM gives female characters power...

>Also nothing beats finding GoT art purely book-influenced. It's so rare and lovely.

Damn, that is nice.

>No I'm just dying of thirst.

>>Art of Queequeg washing cars in the nude when?
>No.
Can't be that thirsty, then.

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>>41996312

GoT AU where Joanna Lannister lives when?
They set shitty snowballs in motion but never stay on top of it. Lyssa was probably too nuts to realize how much of a hand she had in everything, Catelyn was too short-sighted to realize she was even starting real shit, and Cersei went nuts trying to have total control over snowballs she could never hope to.
Queequeg is not for sexual.

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>>41996345
Damn, that's good: I can see the Targaryen madness in her eyes!

>GoT AU where Joanna Lannister lives when?

That'd take a more ambitious writer than I. I still have my own fic to do, after all!

>They set shitty snowballs in motion but never stay on top of it.

Mmhmm. Sadly, power and control are two different things, especially with snowballs that become avalanches.

>Queequeg is not for sexual.

As ye like.

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aww yees the replacement copy of War And Peace arrived

it's actually in two volumes

they have a pretty old feel to them but they don't seem damaged like the other one

so that's good. I think I will just have to be delicate with them.

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I stopped at the bookstore to load off some old books today. After getting 75 bucks of store credit I ended up getting
>elric at the end of time
>dune
>a collection of s&s stories with some fafhrd and the grey mouser, jack vance and lin carter.

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>>41996964
>>dune

I want that

I learned two things about books this week

one is that libraries actually have ebooks now

so like, libraries, or at least my library, are no longer restricted to physical books only--you can literally borrow ebooks for an ereader, and I think all you have to do is have an account on their site. that's pretty cool, because obviously it's free so it negates the inconveniences of both having to actually go to the library, and also having to pay.

also, there is a bookstore near me that lets you trade old books for other old books instead of just buying them, which I'm gonna check out next week.

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>>41996986
I tried reading Dune a long time ago, but I got bored pretty quickly.
That was a long time ago though, and my tastes have changed, so it may be different now, but I have a list of things I have to get to before that.

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>>41997004
Have you tried watching the movie?

The book is very well written but can be hard to understand if you don’t visualize it.

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>>41997057

Screw the haters (including Mr. Smithee the director), the movie is a (possibly cult) classic. Though I'd be the first one to say the "Heart Plug" bullshit and "Milking Cat" bullshit deserved to be cut from the original release. Other stuff in the Director's Cut like the extended intro and stuff that wasn't in the book like The Weirding Way being sound lazors instead of Matrix-like kung fu and the now-famous Mentat Mantra are absolutely brilliant.
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>>41996410

I have a couple GoT AUs I always kinda meant to start and I did start a Silm/GoT x-over. No bully.

>>41996956

I generally try to get copies of books I can beat up a bit. I distinctly remember accidentally smushing a paperback I left in my bag in a theater recliner during Suicide Squad.

>>41996964

Always meant to actually read Dune. All my friends have so I just pretend I know everything about it to make and keep up with sweet refs.
I have a copy of Fafhred and Grey Mouser stories and the Mignola comic I haven't read yet. Wasn't there a board game of them?

>>41997057

But it's fun to read the book first and get your own mental image before watching a movie.
Like my mental image of basically everything and everyone but maybe four characters while reading Hunger Games was different from the movie.

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>>41997004
>>41997068
Dune's a worthwhile read, I'd say. It's old enough and impactful enough that--like Lovecraft--it can come off as cliched, but it's quite good. Wish I still had my copy...

>>41997068
>I did start a Silm/GoT x-over. No bully.
*bullies!*

>I distinctly remember accidentally smushing a paperback I left in my bag in a theater recliner during Suicide Squad.

That was the universe punishing you for giving the DCEU money.

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>>41997057
I saw bits and pieces of it a long time ago, but I don't remember much.

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>>41997062
God I love that picture.

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>>41999151
Chew ken dew eat!

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i'm 100 pages into the first black company book and...i'm impressed that glenn cook can write people who are...utterly reprehensible. like...the principle villains of the series are stunningly awful, in a way that only low fantasy can do. like...if anyone i knew could say "oh i think the 10 who are taken are all really awesome and i'd glady march under their banner", i'd honestly think less of them as a person. so far they're...obscenely evil, with the only reason to side with them being if you're...waaaaaaay too into their weird fetish-bait shit and want to get in on just being as debased as possible(ie gangraping 9 year old girls and making their grandfathers watch). it fits into the whole narrative of this mercenary company stuck in the middle of the shittiest possible situation and just having to hope that they won't be forced to be as monstrous as their erstwhile comrades.

otherwise the prose is really on-point, i like that cook doesn't feel the need to fellate any genre-fiction fan's ego by putting in a ton of antiquated words that he picked out at random from a thesaurus and his dialog is snappy without being too proud of itself. it is the sort of no-nonsense fiction that i've missed in an age where everything seems to be "niché appeal or go home".
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>>42001584

yeah the black company's pretty alright. the pacing sorta bored me last time i tried it though so it's sitting half-read somewheres.

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>>42001595
i dunno, i've been into it but then again i like wondering when exactly the narration is going to get really unreliable. croaker seems like he's just going to get less and less reliable as a narrator as the plot wears on, and that kinds excites me.

it reminds me a bit of servarian from the book of the new sun tetrology, but that might just be because that's the one case i really know of an unreliable narrator. also i just like how simple the prose is, it reminds me of guys like moorcock and that's appealing as hell. it's nice to read simply written fantasy, it just feels very frank.

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>>42001607

is it bad if i couldn't keep track of what the fuck was going on outside of immediate events

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>>42001608
Me with every description of geography.

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>>42001608
not really, i kinda figured that the point is that you're just following these mercs around as they deal with the shit sandwich that they've been served.

i'm also just reading a mass market paperback of the first book, and i know nothing about the plot outside of a few spoilers my roommate gave me when i wasn't sure i was gonna read it. i dunno, it's been fun to just get lost in the day to day of this mercenary company.

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>>42001610

ah, okay, good. i mean, i can tell there's shit going on elsewhere and lots of people doing lots of things but i could never tell exactly who they were, why they mattered, etc. maybe it's all kept totally unexplained to add to the effect.

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I'm now 500 pages into Underworld and it's just barely starting to come together

approx. 400 pages to go

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R8 muh books

(The Brothers Karamazov not pictured)

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>>42001799

Needs some Cicero and maybe Marcus Aurelius.

Ohhh... And Doug Hofstadter.
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>>42001801

I've been meaning to pick up Epictetus' Discourses

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yay, I read almost 60 pages today! feelsgoodmane.jpg

also I got a copy of Ulysses

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>First Blood finally mostly focusing on character introspection and logistics for the Rambo search

Yass

>>41997069

I have a shiny new copy of Dune on my bookshelf. I just need to, y'know, pick it up.
But I still just want literary junk food after Silmarillion.

>>42001584

I've heard that was good, it's on my endless to-read list.

>>42001799
>No Eye of Argon

Pleb

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My friend couldn't finish Watchmen because of the after chapter stuff but his favorite book is Dune.

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>>42001611
i feel that part of that is intentional, yeah, mostly to keep things feeling a bit like fantasy vietnam.
>>42001825
do you have a copy of portrait of the artist as a young man? that's the prequel to ulysses, and i think having that as a starting point will help a lot in understanding it.

i have a great book by joseph campbell called mythic worlds, modern words that really helps to de-mystify joyce's work, i'd highly recommend it.
>>42001861
yeah, it's interesting because in reading it, i can see where a ton of tropes about mercenaries came from in fantasy lit. like, i hadn't realized how many cheap black company rip-offs i'd read until i sat down and read the source material.

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>>42002795
>understanding Joyce

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>>42002797
joyce is kinda entry level english major stuff tho. it's not like i was saying that he'd understand finnegan's wake or whatever, and even that...makes a certain amount of sense when you realize it's just an irishman doing purgatorio but with a hateboner for the english language.

note that i said "a certain ammount of sense" and not "sense". i'm pretty sure some of it is just...joyce dithering around while he was figuring out how to write his paradiso. yeah a lot of it now has no real meaning since he died before actually completing his trilogy, so obviously the gatekeepers of literature like to throw him and his work up as being this incomprehensible morass. i think part of that is why "james joyce is incomprehensible" is such a meme. also a lot of the gatekeepers being english also adds to that, since his books were meant as a way to shake off the chains of english colonialism. also yeah, he did make it purposefully obtuse at points, no getting around it, but "joyce is incomprehensible" is one of my least favorite memes in all of literature.

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>>42002927
>it's just an irishman doing purgatorio but with a hateboner for the english language
Did he say as such? Ulysses stands out as a beautifully textured book to me. I haven't read FW.

>his books were meant as a way to shake off the chains of english colonialism

I'm not sure I'd agree with this generalization. Colonialism/tourism is a theme to be found (connected with the larger thematic motif of usurpation) but Joyce's motivation should not be confused with the attitude of his characters. In Ulysses this is put into relief (against Stephen Dedalus) when his self-insert (the mysterious figure in the brown macintosh) crosses the path of the viceroy's cavalcade in Dublin with total indifference.

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>>42001861
A ni mo ru fu su

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So I have officially finished Don DeLillio's Underworld. I read more than 200 pages today practically nonstop, very small amount of short breaks.

It was gud. The book has a really bizarre narrative structure. It's almost like it's written with the main plot in reverse, because it starts with the characters being older, and towards the end of the book it finally switches to them being younger. So rather than following the growth of a character chronologically, it's like you immediately learn all these things about them, but you don't have a real understanding of the things that shaped them until towards the end.

But the middle of the book is almost irrelevant to the "main" plot, it basically turns into a collection of short stories that are very loosely connected, most just by theme.

Certain things do "come together" in the end, but overall the book is very...open-ended. My friend who recommended to me literally said "it's like the literary equivalent of an open-world video game" (in terms of writing structure). Which kinda makes sense.

It's not something I would really recommend to people because the plot is just barely even a plot, it's only a plot in the sense of there being a handful of recurring characters who sometimes intertwine, there's no strong central or consistent story for most of the book, although I did find the ending to be pretty powerful. But I think a lot of people would probably find it boring, especially when you consider it's almost 900 pages long...

It does have a central theme that ties everything together though, which is kind of the idea that everything eventually ends in some way, everything decays, or is destroyed, or just somehow ceases to exist, not just humans with death but also the world we live in, and this is exemplified by things like waste, as in literal trash, and also bombs, because waste is a form of things "ending" the same way an explosion ends things, whether it's ending lives, or eliminating physical objects. Everything ends and/or is destroyed in the end. Nothing truly lasts forever.

I am very happy I finished it though. I had a dream last night about reading it and I woke up and said "You know what, I'm gonna finish it today. 230 pages, I can do that. Won't take me more than four hours." And I was (roughly) correct.

I believe I am going to take on War And Peace next, and I'm very excited about it :D
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The Sunset Shimmer Text Support video where she interprets the teen argot that is emoji-speak got me thinking.

Anyone else want an audiobook of A Clockwork Orange narrated by Rebecca Shoichet?

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I'm only 20 pages into War And Peace and I feel like a total brainlet.

The beginning is about a big rich French people party and I can't stop imagining the dialogue being really cartoonishly over the top like you would see with depictions of rich people in comedies.

The names are absurdly long and difficult to pronounce.

The plot aspects (political stuff) are difficult for me to keep track of and understand.

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>>42006802
keep with it though, it has long portions that are kinda boring like that, but the cool war stuff and family drama make it worthwhile

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>>42006812

I will, I'm kind of enjoying it, it's just really challenging.

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>>42006802
>The beginning is about a big rich French people party and I can't stop imagining the dialogue being really cartoonishly over the top like you would see with depictions of rich people in comedies.

So, Mark Twain's The King and The Duke.

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i'm currently reading Scythe by Neal Shusterman
It takes place in a really fascinating world in which everything is run by a massive AI called the Thunderhead but in an interesting twist it's not a dystopia, in fact the AI does a better job running the world than humans ever did. It's become a Utopian world in which death is almost completely impossible thanks to technological advances one can be revived from just about any injury you could possibly sustain, no one gets sick anymore, there's no more food shortages, heck school kids push each other in front of buses as pranks and they're back on their feet the next day. But since no one can die from natural causes anymore and the population has to be controlled somehow we now have the Scythes, who are the only people who can kill someone permanently (known as Gleaning). The story centers on two teenagers, Citra and Rowan who are chosen to apprentice to a scythe and must learn the ways of gleaning, but as one might expect things start to take interesting turns as plot twists happen and it's been really exciting. I started reading it very recently and was shocked last night to find how close i am to the end, the sequel just came out like last week and i'm already excited to get a hold of it

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Done Return of the King.

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>>42006818

that sounds like a pretty cool concept I might have to check that out

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>>42006862
i just finished it last night, the last couple chapters get pretty hardcore and i was completely into it
I really enjoyed it, a lot more than i was expecting, it might be up there with Steelheart as one of my favorite YA novels ever

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man, Free Culture is pretty depressing. I'm getting pretty close to finishing it.

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rec me some good music to read to?

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>>42007996
This for Lovecraft: it's rural-ish, kind of soothing, kind of sends prickles u the spine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFOfSlDCwYw

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>>42008001

I was looking for some soothing and uplifting rather than creepy, honestly. but I can save that.

>>42008002

...that has lyrics tho.

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Finished Rambo. I liked it, a good chase novel and liked how there was no room for a sequel. Like damn, that ending. Honestly, I couldn't actually root for Rambo in the book. Dude was just straight-up this guy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG6DifUtPvs
Also finished the Night Vale novel. It was... Eh. They just explained too much. Didn't fit the tone of the show. I should've expected it, a book can only be so vague while having main characters unless they were as blase and ready to accept anything they're told like Cecil... But there are surrealist novels I've read that've kept more of the tone I was hoping of this book and pulled it off. So eh. Don't like them explaining The Man in the Tan Jacket or putting a gender on the you from the episode A Story About You.
Also also reread Skydoll, the comic I got my username from. The tiddies were awesome, the art was gorgeous, and there are some cool concepts. But it's so fucking rushed and wastes so much potential. But they said 'heresy' and called people 'heretics' a lot. Here's the only music you need when reading the characters' dialogue... Either the writing or the translator sucked. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpJEg6MTPzc

Reading Popol Vuh. Holy SHIT this is the most awesome mythology I've ever read. I don't even know where to start.
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I'm getting pretty close to finishing Free Culture. It's been very enjoyable and eye opening, if depressing, especially as it gets closer to the end. Considering it was published in 2004, there are some parts of it that are somewhat dated, but at the same time, it's just as relevant now as it was when it was first published, considering the clusterfucks that have happened since then (HDDVD/Blu-ray header scandal, Aaron Swartz's persecution and suicide, SOPA, etc).

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>mfw trying to figure out this GODDAMN KINDLE

REEEE

this shit is ridiculous, I charged it for like five hours and it only got to 40%, the interface makes no sense, the autocorrect for spelling is annoying as fuck, and I can't fucking figure out how to download the files I want

I'm trying to get a book off of the internet archive (which is free AND legal) but when I click the Kindle files, it says something like "couldn't find files" and so I tried downloading the PDF version instead but it won't download, it's just like stuck in infinite downloading. wtf

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>>42009437
If anything, proprietary hardware is even worse than the worst unfree software.

That's why I'll never game console again. I should have realized that a decade ago when the PS3 was new and cool.

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>>42009513
This guy knows what's up.

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>>42009513
At least older models of the PS3 can run free software.

Too bad the PS3 can't run gaems

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I found most exciting tome at Goodwill today, is sure to keep me engrossed for many hours.

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>>42010016
Oh my god, you lucky bastard. What year is that book?

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>>42010030
Does that book give you tables of the material properties of each wood per species? I have an AISC handbook and studied structural design both for steel and reinforced concrete and I'm genuinely curious of how similar the design requirements go for wood. Is it a structural handbook?

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>>42010031
>Does that book give you tables of the material properties of each wood per species?
Yes.
>Is it a structural handbook?
It's not just structural, but yes.

Government Printing Office stock number is: 0100-03200 if you're interested.
Here is 2010 edition:
https://permanent.access.gpo.gov/gpo11821/fpl-gtr190.pdf
Most government printings are available as PDF's these days.
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>>42010050
Ok I looked through the book and it actually goes into more details about wood and their tested properties / strength of the material, and even that alone is pretty useful. I like the introductory manuals for design materials because they tend to tell you the behavior each property has on the structure you are building to make it easy to understand why that property is significant.

I'm surprised that it talks about bolt connections, which obviously aren't themselves wood, but are required calculations that are part of the design process.
The only thing I see missing are design requirements under the LRFD design philosophy and diaphragm/shearwall strength, but those concepts I think are generally an applied method derived from the fundamental material properties.

Here's the "design requirements" page in the latest AISC manual for steel design. It's probably the most useful page in the handbook if commercial software tools were out of the question.

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Free Culture is done, on to Little Brother.

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>>42010181
hypehypehype

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>>42010076

I think I have the... 13th edition of the AISC manual here somewhere. The thing to remember with such manuals and especially government manuals like the Wood Handbook is that the variations between editions usually aren't predicated on advancements in the science of the subject so much as on the needs of the organization who manages the printing. One of things about that is that newer editions of texts like that are rarely meant as replacements so much as expansions and usually it's expected that you've read the previous editions and don' need to go over everything covered previously so some things might be left out. Other times different methodologies will be chosen over others that make sense at an institutional level but are less practical for the average jack-off. For instance, a pet-peeve of mine is how texts dealing with Physical Security threats have almost completely dropped coverage of more common concerns like pilferage and burglary in favor of hardening against terrorist threats which makes perfect sense from a government standpoint but is utterly worthless for some mundane concerned only with pilferage and burglary. So ya know, if you want the whole story, you usually have to at least skim over previous editions.

To address what you actually said though, LFRD has only recently started being applied to timber construction, prior to I think, 2015 ASD was the design philosophy of choice and even then old ASD is different from new ASD.

A tangentially related anecdote I recall is when they were making the switch from wooded-hulled tall ships to Iron-hulled ships such as Windjammers is that while the hull plating of an iron ship provides quite a bit of structural rigidity all by itself a wooden ship requires quite a lot more transverse and longitudinal framing to accomplish the same which of course reduces interior volume. But when they were making that transition they were of course stepping into unfamiliar territory so many of the very early iron tall ships were framed much like their wooden counterparts and thus were redunkulously over-engineered. This lead to them being rather slow and ponderous but also made them very rugged. The Star of India out of San Diego is such a ship, is very handsome and unlike some of the older wooden ships like USS Constitution the Star of India is almost entirely original.

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Please never read the sequel to Fight Club. Just don't. It's a big fuck you to any fans of the original.

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>>42010424
Duly noted, thanks. The same can be said for 2061, the sequel to 2001: A Space Odyssey and 2010: Odyssey Two.

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>>42010457
I wouldn't say the 3rd and 4th books are bad. Just not up to par.

Of course, the whole business of Apartheid being violently overthrown and the United States of South Africa founded is a bit more implausible historical fiction than the Soviet Union still existing in 2010.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKDrRdfvUg8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeDk6ZeGNnU

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since my job is mentally annihilating i have been getting back into reading, which is something i fell out of after i got out of college

of the top of my head i've been reading:

The Disaster Artist- I haven't seen the movie, but this is a wonderful little book that is less interesting because it's about The Room and more interesting as a character study of Tommy Wisaeu. The last 20% of the book is strangely heartwarming as you get a peek into what could have been Tommy's former life, and see his dream finally come true consequences be damned

Camp Crystal Lake Memories- A compliation of interview transcripts with people in every Friday the 13th movie up to Freddy vs Jason. These are some of my favorite horror movies so it was neat to get stories behind the thought process of their making, what the actors were really like, and getting details about interactions and rivalries behind the scenes. Held my attention pretty solidly.

Horns- Awesome novel about a guy who wakes up from a bender with a pair of devil horns sprouting from his forehead. Everyone he meets reacts to the horns completely nonchalant and more importantly, he finds that they all seem to helplessly divulge to them their most base and disgusting instincts and desires which he can drive them towards if he wants to. A lot of the book is soul-crushingly depressing, but it manages to have an element of amusement to it somehow as well. I do admit that there's a portion of the novel dedicated to a flashback chapter in someone else's perspective that I felt really dragged though

Meddling Kids- A bizarre, violent and spooky reimagining of Scooby Doo if the kids grew up and ended up becoming burnouts from seeing their last investigation reveal Cthulhu-esque monsters. I stuck to it through the end, but I honestly thought the pacing of it was pretty bad. Cute characters and ideas though

EVERY WITCHER NOVEL UP TO TOWER OF THE SWALLOW- I am of two minds of these books. The first two, the short story compilations The Last Wish and Sword of Destiny, are really great and have some of my favorite fantasy writing ever. The actual novels, however, just seem to be getting worse and worse as time goes along. I'm not even sure I want to bother to read Lady of the Lake at this point but I'm thinking about it.

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>>42010459
3001 was decent but it didn't make up for 2061.
And I guess I was being a bit too harsh on 2061, it just felt really dull.
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Liked 2010.

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>>42010472
ive got blood of elves but ive only skimmed a bit in the bathroom and never started it proper. guess i hsould

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>>42010573
It was pretty good though I wish he hadn't retconned the ending of 2001 to go with what happened in the movie version.

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>>42010582

blood of elves is readable. probably the best of the witcher novels, but it still falls into the same pit of if you dont -really- like ciri, you're not gonna find it that interesting

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So what are you guys’ favorite nonfiction books? I’m working through some of Landau and Lifshitz’s A Course in Theoretically physics and every volume I read of it is the most beautiful textbooks ever. Seriously amazing how well they are written and presented. Each one I’ve read is my favorite in the subject.

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>>42010181
Little brother is suuuper goooood
Cory Doctorow is one of my favorite authors ever and Little brother is a really amazing YA novel that really opened my eyes to a lot of injustices done by our government in high school, i also highly recommend Pirate Cinema, which is a similar YA book about internet Piracy

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>>42010935
Remind me to talk Doctorow with you sometime, hon.

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It's been almost a month since I started on this textbook, and I'm almost through chapter 14. Another 14 chapters to go and then I'm going to re-read it, build a budget pc, and schedule for an exam.

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>>42011093
people still sit this exam?

I thought it was outdated

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>>42011119
It's always being updated, actually.

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>listen to audiobook for several hours
>great narrators
>get to a certain point
>narrator changes again
>the new one is really mediocre and reads way too fast

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someone rec me some books that are under 300 pages long? I want to take a break from the really huge stuff for a lil while.

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>>42012665
The Red Badge of Courage.

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>>42012665
The Wrinkle in Time quartet, the Next Generation Polly stories and the Vicky Austin spinoffs.

Don't bother with the movie. It's gonna suck.

A Wrinkle in Time
A Wind in the Door
Many Waters
A Swiftly Tilting Planet
The Arm of the Starfish
Dragons in the Waters
House Like a Lotus
An Acceptable Time
Meet the Austins
The Moon by Night
The Young Unicorns
A Ring of Endless Light
Troubling a Star.

Get the Jody Lee cover arts if you can find them. Or the 1976 cover for the original, but for the life of me, I can't find out who the artist is.

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>>42012670

well, I'm gonna go to the library soon, do you think you could pick just one or two from this list that I should get? obviously can't take out that many lol

>>42012669

alright

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>>42012665
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?

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>>42012672

library doesn't have that right now but I'm sure I can find it online

right now I feel like I want to have an actual physical book

so I paid my brother to go to the library for me lul. ain't no way I'm walkin up there in this cold.

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>>42012671

Pick two? I couldn't possibly do that. They're all related to each other such that Mrs. L'Engle herself just spent pages discussing "kairos" and getting into space/time lectures over her books' timelines.

Obviously, read the original Wrinkle in Time (the anniversary edition with the lost fragments where the allusions to Communism are more explicitly stated if you find it). I suppose Wind in the Door might as well be the other one if you had to choose just two to read.

Her decidedly nonconformist views on Christian theology and mixing in all manner of ancient metaphysical Greek concepts and futurist sci-fi ideas on math and science have certainly ruffled feathers over the years. And it's glorious.
http://www.bannedlibrary.com/podcast/2015/9/13/book-club-a-wrinkle-in-time
"What would happen if you took Lovecraft and made him believe in the power of love? That's the heart and soul of this book"

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>>42012665
At the Mountains of Madness

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so I finally finished my second book of the year, Max Stirner's The Ego And Its Own, the recently re-popularized work of philosophy that is the source of all the "spook" memes.

I was thinking of starting a /philosophy/ general on /ef/ to discuss that and where I should go next with philosophy (I'm very interested in Freud and Nietsche).

but in the meantime, I'm gonna be going through pic related.

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>>42013464

A Clockwork Orange? That's a rare example of a work where many people consider the movie to be better.

Yeah, the movie cut off the ending, but it's arguably for the better without the whiplash 'heel face turn' at the very end, and actually listening to the dialog is better than reading the nonsense juvie cant and trying to grok what the heck people are saying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-zRtT5jPLA

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>>42013468
>That's a rare example of a work where many people consider the movie to be better.

well, shit

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read the first 50 pages of Snow Country today. I like it.

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I'm having trouble finding the motivation to read the last few days. I just want to listen to music.

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Recently i started reading Meddling Kids by Edgar Cantero, its set in the 90s about a group of friends who solved mysteries as kids back in the 70s who regroup after 20 years to go back to the site of their final mystery only to discover that there may have been more to it than they thought, its basically like of someone actually creative and talented wrote the live action Scooby-Doo movie.
im really enjoying it so far but the writing style is really bizarre though. The book starts out in second-person before switching to the third-person POVs of a number of characters, there are many instances of the author breaking the fourth wall, weird personification of things, bizarre similes and it even shifts to screenplay-format complete with staging directions at some points.
it reminds me a lot of Chuck Palahniuk, because his books often have very unconventional writing styles and story structures as well.
it's odd but i kinda like it honestly because almost every book I read is in first or third person and i like seeing authors change it up sometimes.

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>>42015122

that actually sounds really interesting

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so I have to read this 90-page "booklet"/guide/manifesto or whatever relating to a potential future job

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>>42015304

I read some of this and also some more of Snow Country. Really enjoying the latter. It has a really nice aesthetic. Feels good.

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100+ pages into Snow Country now. It really does have a lot of beautiful imagery, without being excessively detailed. I love it.

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>>42011093
Just got done reading this... My brain feels like hot mush. Now on to building my PC and getting some more practice in for the exam.

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>>42016816

I finished Snow Country!

I loved it, it has such poetic yet minimal imagery and dialogue, it managed to convey a lot of emotion with such simple lines or passages, and it has a pretty powerful (albeit abrupt) ending. One of my favorite things I've read so far.

I requested some new books at the library. Unfortunately they don't have the book I really want to read which is Musashi. I think I'm gonna be on a Japanese kick for a while. I'm considering reading Memoirs Of A Geisha as well even though it was written by a western author.

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Starting Morgoth's Ring.

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WHAT SHOULD I READ NEXT...

...of the following:

>Memoirs Of A Geisha

>Musashi
>Journey To The West
>The Temple Of The Golden Pavilion

?

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>>42017586
The one with "Journey" in the title.

t. me

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>>42017586
The Jenner Translation, obviously.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbJ0c3CCp_U
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>>42017856

kek, classic

>>42017616
>>42017604

the version I have says it's "adapted from" the Jenner translation, I'm not sure what that means exactly though?

and it's 1400 pages, 100 chapters, is that the full version? I thought I saw someone on /lit/ say it was over 2,000 pages...

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>>42017884

The version I have is 1851 pages.

https://www.amazon.com/Journey-West-Set-III-Hardcover/dp/7119006533

edit, IT'S OUT OF PRINT? WHAT A CUP OF HOLY MONKEY PISS!

Still, $90 for a new hardcover copy that you can pass down to your kids and grandkids is hardly a bad deal. Physical books are treasures, and when treated well, become as heirlooms.
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>>42017884
I figured you'd get a kick out of it.

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well, I ended up sticking with Memoirs Of A Geisha because I had already started it.

I am now 100 pages in.

it's pretty bizarre, so far the whole story has just been absolutely miserable yet it has this slightly comical feel to it that makes it so it isn't just crushingly depressing, and it's actually pretty suspenseful, it's the kind of misery where you want to keep reading just to see if anything ever gets better for the main character.

and it's also a kind of misery that isn't super violent or depraved or graphic. it's more of a "wow this person's life is just really shitty and unfortunate" kind of miserable, rather than a psychotic/sadistic kind.

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I need advice.

I really haven't wanted to read much lately and at first I would just force myself to do it and it would be fine but now I feel like it's actually becoming a stress factor and I'm like mentally beating myself up any time I have a day where I don't read but due to IRL shit I just have not had much mental energy to process a story or anything.

But I also don't want to go all the way back to square one and just like never read anymore so I don't know what I should do. How long would be an appropriate break from pressuring myself so I can relax for a while and not grow to hate reading? It's like a catch 22, the longer I go without reading the more frustrated with myself I get but the stronger I try to just force it, the less I want to do it.

For a while it was feeling really natural and I think IRL stress kind of cut into that unfortunately.

wat do

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>>42022872
I'd say change up your schedule. Like shoot to read every other day or once every three, until you find a frequency that feels more like fun than work. Hell, might be once a week for a while, but reading one day a week and enjoying it is probably better for you than agonizing every day.

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>>42022884

I do think your idea is mostly good, however the big issue I can see arising from that is me going through a whole week until like, sunday night, and still not having read for the week, and being like "welll I can skip a week" and then the problem just keeps growing.

I suppose something that might work is to go back to the 10 pages a day goal I started with last year. Because at the point I'm at, I know only 10 pages in a day is now no big deal at all. It USED to be a big deal when I first started, but even now it would still be something, so maybe it's a good idea and will help me ease back into enjoying it.

And maybe another thing would be, at the start of each day, decide what time I want to read by instead of just being like "well I'll get to it at some point."

like actually, for today I'm kinda thinking, "I'll have 10 pages done by 1pm, and then I'll work out anything else from there."

hmm...I think that's actually a pretty good idea tbh.

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>>42022888

it's just weird because I know stopping after 10 pages will feel weird because for the last few months I had been reading 50+ pages a day pretty often, and I got used to that, and then when I lost my enthusiasm for it it was like, "well shit, what's going on?"

but maybe i just need to dial things back a little.

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>tfw renewing library books i haven't even started yet

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Last month i finally finished the hitchhickers's guide to the galaxy and i just started the restaurant at the end of the universe yesterday, british humor is a fucking treasure.

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>>42025806
Not a version that cuts the Belgium joke I hope?

American publishers wouldn't let him say "asshole" and "fuck" so in some editions he wrote "Kneebiter" and "Belgium" instead.

Don't forget to observe Towel Day.

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Now reading Anon's Pie Adventure.

I think I found a comic I like better than Mauroz's Friendship is Magic, Twilight's First Day, Mara Jade: By the Emperor's Hand, Days of Future Past, Dr. Hooves: This is Where it Gets Complicated, The Death and Life of Superman/Reign of the Supermen, Tales of the Jedi: Knights of the Old Republic, Dark Empire I and II and Empire's End, Serious House on Serious Earth, General Grievous, Dash Academy, The Adventures of Dr. McNinja, Ginger's Bread, The Last Days of Foxhound, Concerned: the Half-Life and Death of Gordon Frohman, 8-bit Theatre, the Sonic Comics before they went to shit.

Fuck Disney. They will never overwrite the EU with Abrams' bad fanfiction.
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edit. sonofagun, it does exist.
https://www.mangareader.net/dante-s-divine-comedy/1/3
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I'm still very slowly chipping away at Memoirs Of A Geisha. It's good but pretty trashy tbh

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T H R E A D R E S U R R E C T I O N

I'm back into it. Read roughly 100 pages between yesterday and today. Finished Memoirs Of A Geisha. Excited to move on to the next book (probably Musashi, honestly).

Some thoughts on Memoirs Of A Geisha, now that I have completed it:

>overall, despite being somewhat cheesy and trashy, it is a very enjoyable, suspenseful and even poetic read. there were definitely some parts that had me rolling my eyes like "really, is that really where this is going?" but there was also a lot of genuine mystery about what directions the story would continue to go in, it never became fully obvious how it would end until the end, and along the way you get to experience the character turn the tables multiple times in regards to their general unhappiness in very satisfying ways.

>one of the real issues I have with the book is the ending MODERATE SPOILERS INCMOMING it's just sooo cheesy, like even compared to the rest of the book its cheesy, it had me thinking, seriously? seriously? it's like the kind of fairy-tale "everything finally turned out perfect" bullshit ending you would expect from a kid's story, and did not fit with the tone the entire rest of the book had established.

I rate it a 7/10.

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i got 60 stories by donald barthleme off of amazon recently and...it's amazing how much his work reminds me of drinking a shot of whiskey. like...he gets this...almost kafka atmosphere right while also being quintessentially american. like...his prose can bite you really hard, the story might burn, but at the end of that shot, there's this fantastically intoxicating feeling that comes from all good short form fiction. also if you read too much of his shit, you can get into a really weird state mentally.

but so far, his stories thailand and city of churches are my highlights. the captured woman is...well, it's this mediation on the nature of relationships and...i dunno, i think it does sorta frame how a decent number of people see relationships. but yeah, donald barthleme writes some really interesting short stories in the most american lense possible and y'all should totally check him out if you like shortform fiction.
>>42003095
>Did he say as such?
mostly my interpretation comes from a few books joseph campbell wrote on the subject(mythic worlds, modern words especially).

>Colonialism/tourism is a theme to be found (connected with the larger thematic motif of usurpation) but Joyce's motivation should not be confused with the attitude of his characters

i dunno if you've read the portrait of the artist as a young man, but...well...stephen dedalus is essentially an author insert. the strife of his family other whether to side with the republicand and parnell or to believe the royalist slander.

also in his academic years, stephen comes face to face with...what can only be called british privilege at the jesuit boarding school. i mean, there's also his delinquent years which include many debates on irish and english authors(the crew stephen is with is largely representative of the youth of ireland, and their conflict over whether to accept irish authors as being up to par with their english contemporaries).

i also read a ton of portrait and my version came with "irish history for dummies, but as footnotes" and a sorta essay at the back discussing colonialism and it's relation with james joyce's work.

so i've been fed a bias from the start and...i dunno it seems to fit as much as other forms of lit analysis so i've just never really questioned it. i could probably be wrong though.
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>>42035091
I haven't read Portrait. I've read some Campbell but that wouldn't have anything to do with my primary quibble, viz. that Joyce had a "hate-boner for the English language". If he did, then he must have hated it the same way that Beethoven hated the symphonic orchestra. It seems like a trite notion and the kind of thing which obscures literary appreciation as it gets passed around, rather than something which illuminates the work of the author, in any case.

Colonialism no doubt played a major role in Joyce's life and work (many passages could be cited from Ulysses as well). I think an exploration of that aspect of his writing would be very interesting, yet overall Ulysses does not strike me as being a politically motivated work (i.e. "his books were meant as a way to shake off the chains of English colonialism"). In some respects one might argue that The Odyssey is "political" as well, since it concerns a hero voyaging home from foreign lands to claim his rightful succession in Ithaca. But surely, this would be as anti-Campbellian a reading as one could get!

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about 60 pages into Musashi

pretty good so far

I saved this quote:

“This nearly perfect instrument of both art and death reawakened in him the fighting spirit he had inherited from his father.”

(talking about a sword)

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>>42036889
Even though he's most famous for not using real swords for the majority of his career.

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>>42036972

the character who the line is talking about wasn't Musashi

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I've always been fascinated by Native American myths, legends, and history, and I found a really good audiobook about some of them.
https://librivox.org/american-indian-fairy-tales-by-william-trowbridge-larned/
It's on LibriVox, so it's public domain (i.e. free).

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>>42037206

I will check this out

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>>42037221
The stories are interesting and the reader is pretty good.

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So I was browsing at the library a couple days ago

And I was looking at the biggest/longest books I could find, out of curiosity

And there was this book that I now can't seem to recall the title/author, but it was a fantasy novel with quotes on the back from George Martin and also Tolkien saying how incredible it was and how it influenced them

considering they themselves are considered the masters of fantasy, it kinda interests me

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now reading Plato

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>>41918898
reading is gay, Chewy.

But, I recommend the following:

fiction: Wizard of Earthsea trilogy by LeGuin

Mission of Gravity by Hal Celement

nonfiction/science: Ancestor's Tale by Richard Dawkins

Nonfiction/history:
Where the Bear Met the Lion by Dr. Khalil Rahmany
(history of Afghanistan including Soviet invasion 1978-1992)

Autobiography of Russell Means
(Lakota Indian leader)

Give me Liberty by Eric Foner
(US history contact to reconstruction)

still, reading is totally fucking GAY.

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I took a detour from Plato and started Kafka's 'The Trial'. Very odd and also funny book. As in, actual laugh-out-loud funny. Haven't read a book so funny since Catch 22.

>>42040820
>>42040671

noted

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also, birthday haul

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>>42041029
This comic always makes me feel weird, in that I live in a state/area where I walk in and get my license renewed in less than 2 minutes and handed to me that day, no number taking or anything, just "here's my license, here's my money, please print my new card"

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>>42041030
Here, they take the photo, clip the edge off the old license, print a receipt of the renewal and tell you to keep the receipt with the old clipped one as a temp until the new card comes in the mail. It always goes pretty smoothly, unless there's a lot of people ahead of you.

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Haha you said dick

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I picked up Atlas Shrugged, 1984, and an anthology of Vietnamese poetry at the library book sale today, all for just a buck fifty.

also, my brother wants me to read some YA series that will probably be shitty

however, still reading The Trial atm
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>>42043933
>Atlas Shrugged

Good choice. Just remember, it's clearly a satirical farce and Ms. Rand was only pushing back against and lampooning both Gilded Age corruption and the Soviet seizure and nationalization/collectivization of land and property. "Objectivism" is not a philosophy and you risk being laughed at and/or defenestration if you call it one.
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I FINISHED 'THE TRIAL'

read about 70 pages today, spur of the moment decision

the last two chapters made me feel like an absolute brainlet, so I was reassured when I googled and found out that there are many interpretations to the meaning of the book and no clear intention by the author

here is my brief/rough interpretation (copied from a convo with a friend)

[...]is the idea that people spend too much time obsessing over things they don't have power over and/or that don't matter

ex. K. spends so much time trying to figure out his trial even though it doesn't seem like it actually inhibits his regular life in any way
he seeks to earn his "freedom" from higher powers without realizing that it was never actually taken away

because even though he's supposedly on trial, excluding the initial arrest, I don't think he was ever restricted from doing anything legally, and almost all of the means he seeked out for finishing his trial were of his own will. and even when they weren't, there was no consequence to simply ignoring them (ex: how he decided to stop going to the Sunday meeting things despite being told he had to, and no issue ever arose from it iirc)

also, the more he tries to learn about how his trial and the court works, the more convoluted, arbitrary, confusing, even nonsensical it seems to become

which to me suggests that the trial could just be a metaphor for general struggles in people's lives
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Read the first 60 pages of '1984' last night. It's fucking great. Hooked me almost instantly. Great prose, really interesting concepts.

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>>42044565
The English teacher in me must state that titles of novels are italicized when typed using a computer or when they are printed in a book, newspaper, or other texts, and they are underlined when written by hand. Quotation marks are used for the titles of poems.

Ex 1 (novel, italicized): I like 1984 by George Orwell.
Ex 2 (novel, underlined when you're writing by hand): Humbert from Nabokov's Lolita is not a very nice guy.
Ex 3 (poem, quotation marks): "I Wandered Lonely as a Cloud" is my favorite poem.

Just letting you know, lest some autist tries to demean you.
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>>42044608
Humbert did nothing wrong actually I was aware of that, however I really don't like altering any word in digital text except for emphasis like this or "this" or *this* or for dialogue.

generally with book/movie/game etc. titles I simply use proper capitalization, however sometimes I put quotatons (except with only one mark on each side instead of two) if I feel like it would be confusing to read otherwise.
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>>42044608
I don't know how to italicize on this site.

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>>42044623
Thas cool mane. It's an imageboard. Formal conventions of writing do not matter much.

I'm reading Lolita right now and will probably be finished with it tomorrow. All I can say is that Nabokov is a genius. I can't wait to see what predictions I've made are true at the end of the story. I just feel like I can't talk about this book in public because of its subject matter. I had a professor who even refused to teach it, but I don't know why, because all of Nabokov's subtleties make it so good.

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>>42044629

I read Lolita last year, it's a fantastic book. It is absolute very uncomfortable subject matter and content but the prose is fantastic and I don't want to spoil too much but as you get through the book, you will probably start to realize the ways that the narrative is subverted that aren't fully obvious at first.

The idea that Lolita is a genuine love story is a horrible myth and couldn't be further from the truth. But we can post more about it when you finish!

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>>42044626
surround with [ i ] italicize [ /i ] without the spaces

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>>42044626

ctrl + i

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over 100 pages into '1984' now

still great

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>>42044658
Julia is a sloot.

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>>42044677

I really like the whole section describing how sexual degeneracy was the ultimate act of personal liberation and rebellion against Big Brother/The Party.

I honestly think Toybox would get a kick out of that, if it were possible to get her to read.

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>>42025806
Happy Towel Day

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So they are making a young adult series of Warhammer 40k novels. So we finally have a more fucked up YA series than twilight?

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>>42044715
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Creator/DouglasAdams

Purists turn their noses up at the final book since Adams didn't write it, but Colfer did a great job and was working off of Adams' notes.

Likewise, a lot of people don't like the movie since it was pretty loosely based on the books, but people forget the books themselves were loosely based on the original radio dramas.

Everyone needs to experience the 6 Hitchhiker books, the Starship Titanic novelization (and maybe the PC game if you can get it to run), and the Dr. Who episodes (the City of Death is easily the #1 greatest Doctor Who serial of all time, even though he was heavily borrowing from the Dirk Gently books).

Young Zaphod Plays it Safe is more of an veiled essay criticizing Reagan than a H2G2 story.

The Salmon of Doubt is more of a coffee table book, to be picked up and flipped through randomly than read straight through. I remember on one of the last days of school my senior year, I picked out a short essay containing valuable life lessons and read it to the class ala. Oh the Places You'll Go!

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>>42044764

Also, I should say, I recommend the American editions instead of the original UK text.

American publishers wouldn't let him use words like "asshole" and "fuck," so he used different words and also added new jokes poking fun at censorious publishers.

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I finished '1984'!!!

Holy FUCK that was good.

Best book I've read this year, by far.
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>>42045343
We had to read 1984, lord of the flies, and animal farm in high school. Hated it then but happy i did.

Soooo... Whats 2+2= ?

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>>42045347

I DON'T KNOW! IT'S FOUR, OR FIVE, OR MAYBE SIX, IT'S WHATEVER YOU WANT IT TO BE, PLEASE GOD LET ME GO!!

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Seriously tho, I'm beyond impressed with the book, I can absolutely see why it's considered a classic and ahead of it's time, it frankly blew my mind multiple times, and is a straight-up 5/5 to me, and I'm glad I didn't get it ruined for me by being forced to read it in school.

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>>42045353
I should read all those again. They were good even when forced to read them so im sure they would be even better at leisure.

I am glad retroactively that i was forced to read them though haha.

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Resuming 'War And Peace' but with a different translation/copy, because the copy I originally had was in poor condition.

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>>42046529
My favorite part was when "it was the best of times". I kinda trailed off after that.

I need to go to the library. How far are you into it?

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>>42046538

bout 20 pages

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>>42046540
Thats not terribly far. I might grab it tomorrow and re read it.

I dont want to say "read it with you" because im scared of commitment haha.

If thats not weird or anything.

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>>42046541

it's uh...it's fine. I'm gonna be chugging along at a slow pace, most likely.

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SAVE

I started reading Siddhartha yesterday and am now 80 pages in. It is only about 120 pages long and a very easy read, I will have it finished tomorrow if not tonight.

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>>42046540
>20 pages in

Almost done!

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>>42050137

Finished it.

It was a cool book with pretty good prose but in terms of its actual message it seemed...not as genuinely deep as a lot of people say.

The whole thing was basically an extremely long-winded way of getting to the final point of "dude nothing really matters just love everything lmao" which is nice and all but I guess personally it's not the kind of "knowledge" that I like.

I can see how it would have a strong impact on younger people but for me it's like a 7.5/10.
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My sister is presenting a paper on Locke and asked for my opinion, but I'm not overly familiar with his work so I'm plowing through his essays.

Seems pretty derivative. He's just restating a lot of platonic and aristotelian concepts like forms and logos and ideal societies, but I guess that's what the Enlightenment was all about; re-introducing Classical ideas.

His thoughts on the origins of common morals are total BS, though. And the tabula rasa nonsense. Nobody had to teach me to be introspective and closely monitor and evaluate my own mental processes.
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Why does every War And Peace audiobook narrator suck? I have tried three now...

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I found a copy of Flashman at the Salvation Army today. That's one I've been meaning to read for years. Got about half way through it already. Is especially entertaining to hear the troubles the British had in Afghanistan in the 19th century and think how, 200 years later it's still basically the same.
I'm also a fan of Warhammer 40k's Caiphas Cain series which is based off Flashman and similarly entertaining.

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>>42050313
is this how you are plowing at superhuman speeds through massive volumes of books?

I thought you were like, the world's fastest speed-reader or something.

I am so, so slow in reading. So slow that I can't skim around a textbook well enough in the allotted time to even study; I have to absorb the entirely of the information on the first pass slowing me to an absolute crawl.


Don't they have war and peace read by Charlton Heston? I'd listen to that.

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>>42050361
I had the opposite problem in school. I read quickly and when I read something like a book I zone out and can't hear or process anything outside the book.

So when we had to read in class together and people had to take turns reading I would never know where the class was because I was two chapters ahead and not listening to the other kids reading out loud, and the teacher thought I just wasn't following along.

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>>42050363
don't get me wrong, I had that problem in school too, got sick and tired of being prevented from learning shit cuz the others had to catch up. so I bitched about it, and got beat up constantly for saying everyone was so fucking dumb. course, how dumb I am, I couldn't figure out why they beat me up all the fuckin time but hey.

I'm talking about currently, after losing most of my good retina.
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>>42050361

I am a very slow reader.

>>42050363

How come you don't read anymore anyways, Toy? Surely there is some kind of book you could take an interest in? excluding hentai manga

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>>42050383
I'm not big on passive entertainment. I don't watch TV and I barely see movies. Most of my time is spent talking with people online or playing a game of some sort. The only passive entertainment I generally consume is YouTube and 90% of what I watch on there is educational in some fashion, so I am at least learning something from it.

I enjoy being creative and like games that allow me to make things. Getting immersed in someone else's work is alright but I much rather come up with stuff on my own than rely soley on other people telling me stories or making up characters for me.

I occasionally do watch Anime because it's fun and stuff, however it usually is just like I binge watch 15 episodes of something then never get back to it because I got interested in something else.

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>>42050445
>passive

I mean...no art form is strictly passive. If you feel that a work of art, whether it's a book, film, game, anime etc. is engaging you somehow, it stops being passive and becomes an active activity, because it is stimulating you rather than just washing over you, I think.

Or maybe what I mean is, if you get into a book enough and enjoy it enough, it won't feel passive, it won't feel like a challenge to read because you will be so excited or engrossed in it.

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>>42050527
When I say passive I mean entertainment that I can not manipulate or alter and instead just have to sit and have it presented to me as-is.

Books, TV, Videos and Movies are passive entertainment. You do not directly manipulate or control anything that happens in them.
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>>42050530

I guess my idea of what passive is is different, but I do see what you mean.

So...basically the only entertainment/art form you can truly enjoy is video games or making your own art?
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>>42050532
Anything that lets me exercise my brain through problem solving or interaction. I played with Legos a lot as a kid, they were my favorite toy.

I'm not really the type that enjoys just sitting around and just watching or listening to something unless it's educational, or something that makes me think about things I normally wouldn't think about. The only time I really listen to music is if I'm driving.
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I have finally come to accept that I basically spoiled myself by only reading really good stuff for a long while, Dean Koontz, Stephen King, and some other authors that were high sellers and basically made myself into the type of story snob that looked down on things if it wasn't perfect in it's writing.

So in an effort to step away from that and learn to enjoy stories in general again, I branched out and have been grabbing random reads.

The Neverwhere was full of 'OC' type characters, [like when the fandom got flooded by black and red ponies], but turned out to actually be a really enjoyable fantasy read.

The Ruins was a bit generic as far as horror/tourists in the woods goes, but was still really enjoyable once it picked up.

Beyond by Graham Mcnamee was pretty simple and high school level reading, but was also a fun little ghost story.

And two other's that I found randomely, but that were VERY good was the I Hunt Killers series, and a book called The Whispering Road.

As for random bad reads, I tried getting into a book called The Suicide Collectors.

It had a sick cover. It had a sick title. It even had a sick premise and author who apparently majored in english.

But oh my fucking god, it read like babbies first attempt at a super special snowflake first character backstory.

Like, I TRIED to make it a few chapters in, and when I finally gave up and flipped it over to read the back cover, I was absolutely shocked at how old the author was (old, not young) and at how he 'majored' in english. He didn't know lick about the most basic rules of making an interesting character and they really seemed like something I would have wrote when I was fourteen.

Just aweful.

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>>42050536
You should try NPR. That's what I did after more than a decade of not listening to the radio because of Creed.

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>>42050543
my mom loves Stephen King and Dean Koontz

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>>42050536
>exercise my brain through problem solving

well, not necessarily problem-solving per se, but literature abolsutely can exercise the brain and make you think about things differently.

I mean for example reading philosophy can give you completely different interpretations, understandings, general things to think about, etc. regarding an almost unlimited amount of subjects. There are probably even philosophies of video games written, though I wouldn't know what they are.
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>>42050564
Chewy put The Sea Wolf by Jack London on your reading list!

A richy gentleman is fished out of San Francisico Bay by a horrible whaling schooner captain who turns out to be most well read and amonst all the really cool and accurate sailing stuff and his oppressive captaining adventures, the two discuss a lot of classical authors and quite a bit of philosophy.

I read it twice before the third grade.

This thread is inspiring me to read it again and maybe pickup some of the classics they discuss. I could probably use some old reading, get me back to where i started before it all went so wrong.

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Aside from reading, my favored brain exercise is the puzzle game trinity Tetris, Columns and Puyo Puyo.

I'm familiar with Chess, Hex and Reversi, obviously (call it "Othello" and it's my boot up your ass) but never had the time to dedicate to mastering them. I'm told I'm too predictable. I use the Ruy Lopez or variations every time.

Go and Shogi, I only watch.
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>>42050573

can do!

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>>42050606
Gonna finish that fatty war and peace first? Or do need to get started soon o keep up? I've never had anyone to discuss it with before….it shaped my early childhood along with lotr and old scifi.

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>>42050678

I'm switching off between multiple books now but War And Peace is the priority.

It may take me quite a while to get to yours.

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>>42050562
They are SO good. But they are also masters of their craft, so it's difficult not to love them.

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>go to library
>try to find Aesop's Fables in the fiction section
>feel overwhelmed by how many books there are and confused by how things are organized
>everything is starting to blend together and I'm conscious of how awkward I seem
>go to counter and say "excuse me" to librarian
>she looks at me/treats me almost like Im a bother, essentially
>ask her about the book
>she looks it up on the computer
>looks me in the face
>"that item is downstairs in the children's section"
>spaghetti pours out of my pockets
>"oh, I didnt realize it was a children's book..."
>she doesnt even respond
>mfw

still took out three books tho--Murakami, Lovecraft and Voltaire.

and then walked all the way home in the storm...

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>>42051075

Which Lovecraft collection did you get?

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>>42051077

At The Mountains Of Madness & Other Novels

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>>42051079

Can't seem to find which stories that collection contains. Mountains is good, but it's his longest by far, and it has a tendency to delve into the minutiae of an Arctic expedition a bit too much. Ones I'd strongly recommend if they're in there are:

The Colour Out Of Space
The Shadow Over Innsmouth
The Rats In The Walls
Cool Air
The Call Of Cthulhu
The Shadow Out Of Time
The Watcher In Darkness

All of these are fantastic stories, and will absolutely leave you with a lingering sense of dread after reading them, if you're predisposed to that sort of thing.
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>>42051081

Noted, however, for now I am reading 'South of The Border, West Of The Sun' which is the book by the Japanese author Haruki Murakami, who gets posted on /lit/ a lot.

So far it's like...like, the prose is kinda...basic, bland even, it seems more in the YA range of writing styles rather than anything particularly artsy, and some lines/passages, especially during descriptions of sexual content, are blatantly laugh-out-loud cringeworthy.

However, the actual story itself, while certainly a bit melodramatic, does give me some considerable feels, so I am sticking with it for now, especially since it is a very easy read, I'm already almost 60 pages into it.

It seems to be a romance, so far, but I don't really know where it's going.
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O-Oh my...lewd...

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100 pages deep, actually a pretty feelsy story, kinda hooked at this point. will finish today or tomorrow

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>Rereading Percy Jackson

Holy shit this is good stuff. I've gotten further than I did last time I read it, at book 4 now.

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>>42051207
>>42051132
>>42051123

Hooollllyyyy SHIT.

I just read 100+ pages in one sitting to finish the book.

Although I considerably critiqued the beginning, once you are about 60-70 pages in it really picks up, and once you are a bit over 100 pages in suddenly it gets fucking great and THEN keeps getting better and better until suddenly it ends and I am/was just in awe.

I realized that the shaky beginning was essentially just establishing the most important characters and the early experiences of those characters so that the second half of the book could explore their adult lives in-depth.

I won't give spoilers suffice to say that the ending leaves a ton of questions unanswered however it's sort of like in that last moment, like literally the last paragraph, it hits you that all the mysteries throughout the book weren't what was really important.

I feel like there is a lot to mull over with the themes and symbolism and meanings in the book and I am eager to discuss it with people on /lit/ (many of them have likely read it, the author is popular there).

I'm so fucking glad I stuck with that, the only other book I read that was THAT engaging and THAT powerful this year was '1984' but this was in like, an entirely different way.

'1984' was a book of terror and chaos and evil, whereas 'South Of The Border, West Of The Sun' was a book of romance and lust and confused emotions and mystery etc.

I don't know how I could possibly describe what exactly about the book was so effective without giving significant spoilers so I will simply say that if you are looking for a light, easy, yet extremely powerful read, check it out.

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>bump

I read The Most Dangerous Game by Richard Connel, although I'm kind of confused because I got a PDF from archive.com that claimed to be the "full text", yet was 15 pages, despite the Goodreads page saying it is nearly 50 pages??

Like it didn't seem abridged or anything but I'm kind of worried that I got some horrifically shortened version??

Regardless, it was kinda meh, the message was very heavy-handed and not really executed well, the ending wasn't satisfying, the action scenes weren't detailed enough to be exciting, and the dialogue was hella corny.

It was like a 5.5/10, unless I actually did get a shortened version in which case I will have to read the whole thing at some point.

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>>42052188
now watch the movie yo

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>when a book unintentionally(?) memes

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The Fate of Africa, a history book about Africa during and after decolonization

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I finished Norwegian Wood, so, bump.

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I just finished the Warhammer 40,000 book Cadia Stands by Justin D. Hall.

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now reading Killers Of The Flower Moon

it is a story about the murder mystery that resulted in the FBI being created, in the early 20th century
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I've recently started Seveneves, by Neal Stephenson. When the moon shatters for no reason and Earth will burn in two years, humanity heads into space. Five thousand years later, seven groups of different post-humans come back.

I'm not very far in, but so far I'm liking the concept and especially the characterization.
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I found a copy of "Spirit of '69: A Skinhead Bible" for $80 so I had to jump on that and buy it. Just need to wait for it to arrive.

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>>42056037

so the reason I was reading this is because I found a public book group near me that was reading this for this month

I didn't finish the whole book but I still attended the group and am happy to say it went very well

another step forward for overcoming social anxiety

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Finally finished Morgoth's Ring.


>Thus, as "Morgoth", when Melkor was confronted by the existence of other inhabitants of Arda, with other wills and intelligences, he was enraged by the mere fact of their existence, and his only notion of dealing with them was by physical force, or the fear of it. His sole ultimate object was their destruction

>He was aware, at any rate originally when still capable of rational thought, that he could not "annihilate" them: that is, destroy their being; but their physical "life", and incarnate form became increasingly to his mind the only thing that was worth considering.
>Melkor could do nothing with Arda, which was not from his own mind and was interwoven with the work and thoughts of others: even left alone he could only have gone raging on till all was levelled again into a formless chaos. And yet even so he would have been defeated, because it would still have "existed", independent of his own mind, and a world in potential.

Shit, this sounds like me as a child.

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>>42057102
And yet he let an elf girl give him a lapdance and put him to sleep.

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>>42057120
What you get for intentionally diffusing your life force until you're a feeble old hag hiding in a dungeon and the entire gold content of the planet is tainted with a portion of your essence.

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>>42057093
>>42056037

now I have finished it

decent read, 6.5-7/10

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I got through the first 100 pages of Mac's favorite book today, Frankenstein. Pretty much blown away by it so far. It really is nothing like most film/TV adaptations of the story. The monster in the book is strong, fast, eloquent, and emotional.

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>>42057440

The book is always better. Always.

Except, maybe The Andromeda Strain and The Princess Bride. Arguably very rare cases of the movies being better.

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>>42057448
the book is never better because there are no visuals

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>>42057471

I, personally, never read a book if it's not at least 75% pictures.

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>>42057471
>>42057448
The book is sometimes better and the movie is sometimes better.

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>>42057473
I liked the Deathly Hollows movie better than the book. Man that last book was a let down.

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le Frankenstein is le finished

great book, one of the books I have read the fastest this year, used an audiobook for the last four chapters and the narrator was very good, I could see myself re-reading the whole book using the audiobook just to hear the whole thing in his voice(s).

I have finished 15 books this year with the goal of reading 20, so if I can read another book this month, then for the remaining months of the year, I will only need to finish one book per month to meet that goal, and then in 2019 I can aim even higher.

I feel like getting myself into reading has been one of the best decisions I've made in years.

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>>42057570
>le Frankenstein is le finished
>great book, one of the books I have read the fastest this year
Right?! When I found it on the smartphone I used to have, I gave it a poke out of curiosity... and got sucked right in!

>I feel like getting myself into reading has been one of the best decisions I've made in years.

It definitely is!

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Readin Count Zero baybee. Not sure what to make of it. It's got three seperate plots that seem to be coming close to converging but I'm running out of book and I'm honestly kind of curious to see how he wraps all this up.

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>>42057580

it's worth noting that 15 is the total number of books I read all of last year, however then I was reading considerably longer books.

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>>42057591
I've been way below my usual these past couple years... I want to say, six books in the last twenty-four months? Used to average eighteen a year or so.

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What are these "books" of which y'all speak?

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i've been getting back into thomas ligotti, songs of a dead dreamer is a really solid collection of abstractly horrifying short stories.

also i've been reading this really pretentious book by italo calvino called invisible cities; it's basically about marco polo and kublai khan hanging out in xanadu, learning eachother's language and learning about eachother. the framing device for all of this is marco polo bullshitting about cities he's been to, and like...i'm not far enough into the book to really decipher it yet. it's been fun, it's almost a fantasy book. also it has a great atmosphere, calvino manages to evoke a feeling of quiet wonder when he writes about each city, it reminds me of my dreams. i've rarely encountered fiction like this before.

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Tackling this b e e f y b o i again.

>>42058084
I heard about Invisible Cities. Please tell me if it sucks or not when you're finished.

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>>42058089
i think i mentioned it while we were talking once, but it also feels really /lit/. it feels like the sorta thing people on /lit/ would talk about.

i shall though, it's already worth talking about, giving you a post-mortem will be fun.
>pic related is what i already want to do with the book

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>>42058089

>have owned IJ for nearly a year

>only read one chapter
>tfw

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>>42058099
I've had it for years now and I'm only 270 pages in. In my and your defense the common consensus is the book takes like 300 pages to get anywhere.

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>>42059035

kek

I read The Communist Manifesto and was considering starting a thread on /ef/ to ask how many others have actually read it

now I am reading Animal Farm

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I finished Animal Farm

ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL, BUT SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS

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I never got around to actually reading Mary Poppins (except for some excerpts in a 3rd grade literature anthology textbook), but I've always adored the movie and was intrigued by Saving Mr. Banks, so looked them up in the county Library system, but they only have 4 of the 6 books, so impulse-ordered the whole box set from Amazon.

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Come to think of it, I only read 2 of the Laura Ingalls Wilder Little House books as a kid and have been meaning to read the rest for 20 years, but never got around to it.

It looks like the library has more books about Laura than written by her; bios and "guides" to her work. Now that's bull.

Funny how On the Prairie is the most famous and people often call it the Little House on the Prairie series, when it's not the first or even second book in the series.
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I read Tao Te Ching in one sitting!!

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>>42059518

Unless that "one sitting" was Bodhidharma-style, you're doing it wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodhidharma#Nine_years_of_wall-gazing

(And yes, I know that text has nothing to do with Buddhism).
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I've paused in reading seveneves to give Jade the chance to catch up. I'm at the five-thousand-year timeskip, but that's small potatoes compared to how the story gets there. The heroism, well-intentioned fuckups, and sheer insanity make for one Hell of a ride.

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I need to get back to reading On The Road. Audiobooks are nice but it's easy to get distracted by other things, and I really liked it.

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>>42060686

Now that I have my new Kindle, I am debating on what I should read. I want to read some more philosophy, and also some religious scripture (particularly the Hindu Vitas) and I also want to try and read some of the things people on this site have recommended to me. I'm not sure where I want to start.

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i re-read blood reaver by aaron dembski-bowden today. it's as good as i remember it being. for those not in the know, it's part of a trilogy of books on the chaos space marine chapter known as the night lords. it's a warhammer 40k book btws, so it's hella nerdy.

this trilogy is really neat in that it manages to do horror really well in a series that would rather ape horror aesthetics than be horrific(tyranids and necrons aside, the actual black library books with them in it are all snoozers that insult me as a fan of both factions). like...the spaceship the last of this rotting chapter are on is haunted by psychic ghosts, half the space marines have fallen into madness and the rest are all in varying states of mental decay and moral compromise, and...well aaron dembski-bowden manages to make a space marine(a being who is said to know no fear) get as close as he can be to scared.

our space marine mc is basically paranoid of all his brothers, all of his best thralls get killed, some of his brothers are trying to get him to fall to chaos, and he manages to...be vulnerable while still being a space marine. it's really impressive that dembski-bowden can humanize a chaos space marine as much as he does, but talos feels incredibly human while still being this horrifying vision of absolute terror.

blood reaver is honestly a 7.5/10 for me. it's the second book in a trilogy that...actually has managed to give me the feels on my third read through. if you like warhammer, sci-fi, horror, or nerd shit that's got a complicated backstory, check this shit out.
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goddamn i make the silliest typos...
>>42059035
that makes me laugh every time.
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>>42060688
Have you ever read Notes From Underground?
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>>42060688
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Sacred_Text_Archive

I'm currently reading the original Mary Poppins. As Saving Mr. Banks portrayed, P.L. Travers never forgave Disney for softening Mary Poppins' personality. While Julie Andrews played her as stern, but kind, the sternness is understated compared to the books. She's actually got a hair trigger and is bit of a bitch much of the time; snapping at the kids for innocent remarks and questions.

The Disney movie was brilliant in adapting iconic scenes from the books, but does it in a haphazard, random sort of way with no order to them and including or omitting characters nilly-willy. The Jolly Holiday in the sidewalk picture was just Mary and Bert (or "the Matchman" as he's consistently called). The kids were at home and it was Mary's day off. P.L. Travers vehemently insisted Mary and Bert were just friends, but if they weren't on a steamy date, she has a real funny way of writing it.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/katehakala/12-things-disneys-mary-poppins-got-completely-wro-cq0y

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Holy shit, Mary Poppins is part Cobra?

Unless her cousin is a literal Hamadryad from mythology, which would make sense, except her cousin has a hood and sheds his skin and gives it to her for her birthday.

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Bump!

I have been figuring out how to get lots of free books on my kindle.

thanks to the /lit/ archive, you can download large amounts of specific kinds of books easily. For example I got a collection of Japanese ebooks that must have at least a couple hundred in total.

all I have to do is use a free program to convert them from EPUB to MOBI, and then I copy and paste them into the proper folder on my Kindle and they work perfectly!

I've just been randomly browsing google for Japanese books that seem interesting, and now I have around ten or so on my kindle ready to go. Some short ones, some long ones, and some inbetween.

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>>42062569
I've been reading Ozaki's Japanese Folktales: Classic Stories from Japan's Enchanted Past and they're pretty entertaining. I'd recommend that.

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>>42062570
sounds good

would you happen to have a link to this?
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My longest yeah boy ever

I did it

and its only October

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>>42062573
>>42062570

I enjoyed these

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Preparing for a Twokinds archive binge.

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Me and Mac read House Of The Sleeping Beauties.

It's a bit, eh...well, let's just say that discussion of it would be much better suited to /ef/.

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Getting farther in Italo Calvino's Invisible Cities. It's getting really neat, I like it a lot.

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>>42066030
Those sound like pretty shit cities how are you supposed to be able to find your way around

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>>42066056
It's called that because it's Marco Polo talking with Kublai Khan and Marco Polo is a notorious for lying about shit. His accounts of China are full of fanciful stories about magic and creatures out of folk-lore.

The joke is that Marco Polo is lying to Kublai Khan and they're bullshitting as a means of communication. Marco Polo starts trying to converse with Kublai Khan via pictograms of cities and drawing things to express abstract concepts. His reasoning being that Kublai Khan knows about sacking cities so if he can express the worth of his ideas as cities rife for sacking, he can start a dialogue with the Great Khan.

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>>42066070
How's he draw them if they're invisible though?

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>>42066119
>Infinite Jest
>the book has an end point

Same joke, I know, but titles aren't indicative of content.

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>>42066130
>pic
WTF IS THAT THING

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>>42066131
Some kinda insect, I wanna say a kind of moth from it's body structure.

I like how alien it looks though, doesn't it look like something out of a horror movie?

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>>42066130
>Moby Dick
>It's a whale and not a giant sea cock

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>>42066137
a whale with a giant sea cock

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>>41957489
It is pretty good I'll admit.

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Read my first Lovecraft story, albeit a very short one.

http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/ca.aspx

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>>42067545
You're trying Lovecraft?! Awesome!

Cool Air's not bad, though it's definitely not his best in my opinion.

For me, his best-written piece is
http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/soi.aspx
and his scariest is
http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/cs.aspx
(which I read aloud in my Discord server for Halloween)!

I hope you like them as much as I do!

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>>42067545
If you enjoy Lovecraft, I could show you some really cool places.

http://www.630wpro.com/2015/10/12/the-dark-swamp/

This swamp is now privet property, but i have permission from the land owner to hunt there.

Spooky. as. bawlz.

There is also a Lovecraft tour in the city that brings you to all the cool places that he references in his books and historical sites. Ends at his grave. I've never taken it, but it looks pretty cool!

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>>42067593
Do want!

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>>42067597
Doors always open!

I have 3 beds! Bring friends.

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>>42067545

Cool Air's pretty alright, although it's a bit atypical for Lovecraft. Not bad, though. If you want something less scary, but more in his typical style, I recommend The Shadow Out Of Time. Otherwise, >>42067547 are both great recommendations (Although I'd argue that Colour is both the scariest and his best story. And Lovecraft agreed on that last part, so neener, neener, neener.)

>>42067593

Do you guys have, like, Lovecraft souvenir shops? I always wondered if that was a thing around there.

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>>42067628
>Do you guys have, like, Lovecraft souvenir shops?
Not that I've ever seen. We have a lot of like, spirit shops. Like places that sell luigi boards and tarot cards and stuff, im sure they have some love craft stuff haha. But no, nothing I've seen that is a straight up lovecraft gift shop.

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>>42067650
It was just easier that way.

Why try and fail when you could turn it into a joke? haha.
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>>42067652
what about Waluigi boards?

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>>42067658
HA! Thats what i had in mind when i was thinking "yeeeah, im just not even going to try" hahaha.
Vegans have all the good weeg boards.

>>42067659
Dont even joke about that. :P

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>>42067628
>And Lovecraft agreed on that last part, so neener, neener, neener.)

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>>42067547
In a college writting class I wrote a radio play partially inspired by Rats in the Walls, one of my favorite Lovecraft stories.

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>>42067760
Aw, nice! Do you still have it around?

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>>42067774
If I do still have it it's buried under a bunch of my other stuff. I'm kind of a pack rat. The main thing I remember from it is that the narrator turned out to be the main characters cat. The professor really liked it.

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>>42067780
Neat! If you ever find it, I'd love to read it!

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I'm gonna read some Marcus Aurelius. If these past few months have taught me anything it's that I need a better grip on my emotions or they'll rule me forever. I hope starting with the Greeks isn't just a meme.

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>>42067820

If you go into it thinking Stoicism=No emotions or suppressed emotion, you'll end up confused. It's a common misconception.

If you're worried about emotions, I'd recommend Buddhist texts and commentary.

Or Doug Hofstadter. Good practice for getting into the habit of mindfulness and introspection and thinking about thinking.
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>>42067830
>If you go into it thinking Stoicism=No emotions or suppressed emotion, you'll end up confused. It's a common misconception.
I'm not that misinformed.

>If you're worried about emotions, I'd recommend Buddhist texts and commentary.

>Or Doug Hofstadter. Good practice for getting into the habit of mindfulness and introspection and thinking about thinking.
I'll check them out. Thanks.

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I finished the introduction! I'm reading the Gutenberg version since I'm a cheapo.

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>the first book's basically just a giant shout out to all his homies who he feels had a good influence on his life
d'aww

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Well, finished the first book. Admittedly I'm not sure I got much out of it. The writing undulates in an unfamiliar manner and I find it hard to focus. I'm sure things'll improve as I get used to it. For now, bed.

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I'm reading Ron Chernow's biography of Alexander Hamilton, and the personality similarities between Hamilton and myself are staggering.

The man was passionate in pretty much every sense of the word: gentle, loving, and flirtatious, but also fiercely defensive of his personal honor, possessed of a temper and inclined to hold grudges against those who'd wronged him. Damned near everyone in the period who got to know him either loved him or hated him.

Alas, that and our hair color is where the resemblance ends: I'm not a wildly ambitious hyper-genius.
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I've been slogging through books this year (clearing out my Nan's collection, plus was gifted some), so sure, here's this pile next to me and some others I read recently:

>The Complete Fox (Les Stocker)

Factual book about foxes by someone who looks after and rehabilitates wild animals in the UK, and it's pretty good! Author doesn't have a good understanding of statistics*, but it was still informative and interesting.
>And the Policeman Smiled (Barry Turner)
Another factual one, this time about the evacuation and managing of child refugees from Nazi Germany. It wasn't fantastically-well written and some chapters dragged with how poorly they were constructed, but overall it was highly depressing, e.g. the bureaucracy that lost children their lives; desperate people hoping that, if they waited a bit longer, they wouldn't lose all their belongings, and suddenly realising that they and their families were trapped; the problematic creation of Palestine with issues that are STILL GOING ON; the abuse many suffered in the care system; and so on. There's a little anecdote at the end where someone returned to Germany after the war and, seeing a familiar face, remembers themselves to the person, only to be met with a "they should have killed the lot off you off" attitude. Humanity can be pretty damn tragic...

Anyway, onto fictional things:
>Truth or Dare (Celia Rees)
Story about a kid solving a family mystery that I kept hoping it would turn into horror/fantasy, but it didn't. Would give it points for having autistic characters (albeit one very cliché one) without putting it into a spotlight, but the last chapter was basically just a list of facts and stereotypes.
>Hans Christian Andersen's fairy tales
Emphasis on the 'Christian', what most surprised me was 'The Little Mermaid', since one of my childhood friends told me, when I was little, that they were cross about Disney's version making it all about a mermaid who had nothing better to do than be lovesick, whereas I would now argue that Disney played that down a LOT: Hans' titular mermaid sacrifices her life and soul to trying (and failing) to impress a boy. Cheery!
>F. A. Steel's fairy tales
Here's a woman who REALLY wanted kids to read about death! Example: in her version, Red Riding Hood gets eaten and that's the end of that. 'Mr Fox' is one of Steel's that could certainly do with more recognition though!
>West of Widdershins (Barbara Sleigh)
Fairy-tale-espe stories by an author who has strong opinions on what young women should do with their lives. It got a bit repetitive.
>The Secret Garden (Frances Hodgson Burnett):
The first half had its moments, but I was not aware this classic was so very Christian. It's less subtle than the Narnia Chronicles! Eesh. Last chapter doesn't quite deliver the emotional punch it should, either.
>Aesop's Fables
I've never been a big fan of these, but reading them all together, plus some analysis at the end, helped give me more appreciation for the set.
>The King of the Golden River (John Ruskin)
Fairy-tale-espe story that was entirely fine. I won't be keeping the book, but it was definitely a thing.
>Love of Seven Dolls (Paul Gallico)
I am not at all sure who this is aimed at! It's about a girl who joins a circus' puppet show (talking to the puppets and taking on different roles in the plays), and the description of the puppet plays and the puppets' interactions with the girl (they're separate personalities from the puppeteer) are pretty engaging and fun, but then it's also got a whole bunch of carnival rape thrown in, so it's probably not aimed at kids. Spoilers as this is so confusing/frustrating and I don't recommend reading the book: At the end, instead of running off with the handsome young athlete who fought for her, the girl talks to the puppets again and the puppeteer who'd been physically, sexually, and verbally abusing her all this time confesses his love, so she stays with him forever. The end!
>The Magic Fiddler (Claude Aubry)
French-Canadian folk tales, very similar to the Irish ones I've read in that most every one stars the devil in a boring way. Learnt that 'porpoise' means 'sea-pig' (pig-fish) though, and that's something I hadn't noticed before!
>West Country Folk Tales (Llywelyn W. Maddock)
Can't actually remember this one much (I read it a few months ago), but it's one of the non-gift books I'm keeping, so I guess these were more fun? Despite my critical attitude, I am very into fairy tales and folk lore, so it's not a big surprise. I think they were suitably distinct from others.
>Harald: First of the Vikings (Young)
Vikings! Haha, I couldn't really get into it, but it did seem like the type of story that'd do well as a film and, at a glance, I think that's what the Vikings TV series IS doing? Fair.
>Mary Deare (Hammond Innes)
I'll end on a proper novel that I did quite enjoy (though I didn't keep it). It's about mysteries and shipwrecks in the mid 1900s, and I thought it held together pretty well. Not the type of thing I normally go for (I like horror and fantasy), but it was a fun change to instead picture the protagonists dealing with great sinking ships and dangerous rock formations.

I hadn't read much more than short stories online and (excessive amounts of) webcomics for quite a while, so all in all I think I'm doing pretty well! A lot of my Nan's books were easy to dismiss as 'miserable fiction about children during the war', 'miserable fiction about young women not enjoying family life', and/or 'miserable fiction about people returning to their home towns and thinking over what could have been' (bonus points for when they were about ALL of those things).

Not sure I'd call any of these books must-reads unless you're particularly into fairy/folk tales, though.

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>>42067860
Steve Guttenberg?

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accidentally bid on a copy of house of leaves that ends up being more expensive than a new copy would cost me .

i hope someone else outbids me.
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Shout outs to the real swell lad that took the bullet and outbid me on that copy of House of Leaves. Saved me overspending like ten dollars on a less-than-mint copy thanks to shipping fuckery.

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I just finished Harmony. The ending was... sure a thing. I feel like most of the really interesting stuff was in the last third of the book but it was a really good last third.

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>>42068900
Bidding frenzy can be funny like that.

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>>42069735

I just hope whoever it was got a better deal than I'd get. The shipping price was over twenty dollars from New fucking York. Was the packaging going to be fucking gilded there, buddy?

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>>42069751
Wrong pic but that's still a suitable one.

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Reading a book on cave paintings. It's breddy gud. Have an unrelated pic and some neanderthal reconstructions that are amazing.
http://www.kenniskennis.com/site/Home/

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I'm reading 'The Opposing Shore' by Julien Gracq.

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I just read through this and... holy shit. It was incredible. I teared up at points like when he was trying to find his glasses or give his wife the tylenol or the index card that just had "IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT" written on it. It's not the kind of IF I usually like but the way it used Twine's features actually enhanced the story enough that I feel its use was justified. Just... if you have maybe an hour to kill and want to feel feels tonight, give it a read.
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>>42071125
Wew, I was just about to bump this thread.

I just finished 'Walking' by Henry David Thoreau. It was recommended to me by a friend after I told him about how I have been continuing to take walks every day. It's a good, brief nonfiction book about nature.

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>be at record store today
>they have a very small book section
>not much that interests me, except for this THICC Tom Clancy book
>decide not to get it for some reason
>fast forward to right now
>regret not getting it so badly
>tfw

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>>42073199

Tom Clancy books are common fare at any sort of second-hand store like Goodwill or the Salvation Army. I have a big stack of TC books and I think I got them all second hand, usually for no more than a dollar or three.

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>>42073215
Are they any good?

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>>42073218
I read Rainbow Six and enjoyed it. I didn't finish it though but it was interesting learning about the story for the rainbow six games.

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I'm thinking of checking out Zygmunt Bauman's Liquid series at some point. It seems to be about how changing social structures have made it harder than ever to maintain anything. People are stuck loosely tying themselves to whatever happens to be around them under the knowledge that whatever it is could disappear at any moment and too much commitment would leave them hurt. There's like ten of them on different topics but I'm mostly interested in Liquid Modernity and Liquid Love.

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Started 'The Waves' by Viginia Woolfe. It's fucking fantastic.

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>>42076697
I see you're a man of cature as well.

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>>42076697
Should i be ashamed that i own a good portion of the high brow books featured in your image?

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>>42076740
It takes a true patrician to appreciate Jim Davis' comedic genius.

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>>42076755
Fuck yeah, I unironically love lasagnacat!
wait...didn't we already have this conversation before about the lasagnacat YouTube videos?

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>>42076760
Yeah, im pretty sure we have haha.

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>>42076790
That's what I thought. But yeah, to quote one of the comments, "The most post-modern thing I've ever seen."
My sides would go to another dimension if a politician somehow managed to work this into a congressional filibuster

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>>42076740
>>42076739
WTF I was literally thinking "who would actually read those"

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>>42076793
And you call yourself /lit/erate.

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>>42076792
I've never felt so incentivised to run for office than i do right now.

>>42076793
hahaha.

They're pretty good.

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To be honest though, >>42076739
"Garfield: His 9 Lives" isn't very good. It experiments with different alternate universe versions of everyone's favorite fat cat but they all pretty much fall flat.
Then again, none of them have Jon...Coincidence? 🤔

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I FINISHED 'THE WAVES'

I think it's the best book I have read so far honestly. 10/10. Incredibly compelling, beautifully written.

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>>42079336
Can you give a synopsis/review?

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>>42079471
It follows six characters (three boys and three girls) from childhood and then through their entire lives, but every chapter skips multiple years, so it kinda goes in phases such as before any school, then during school, then college, and so on.
At first it seems really bizarre and incoherent, and the writing remains abstract and flowery throughout the whole thing, but by the time you get to the end of the book, everything basically comes together and makes sense and you realize that it's actually a pretty simple story, but told in a very complex way and with a lot of different themes.
Really its just a story about what it's like for the different people to grow up and eventually get old and the different loves and losses and general feelings/perspectives about life they end up having, with a sort of twist at the very end.
It's a somewhat sad book but also with a lot of beauty in it.
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>>42079532
I havent read a story in years, maybe the next time im at the library ill look into this.

How long of a read would you say?

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>>42079561
It took me less than three weeks and sometimes I read less than an hour a day. It's not a very long read.

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Anyone have suggestions for a quick but fascinating read? Kind of in the mood for something good, but I have time concerns.

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>>42080364
I'm actually looking for recommendations too, but mine can be longer ones.

I don't know if I want something completely new, or to continue with something I've started, or pick up something I've been eyeing for a while.

I could resume Plato (le start with the greeks meme) but I could also fast-forward to Schopenhauer and/or Nietzsche (or even go somewhere in the middle with Kant because I'm interested in his views on objectivity in art/beauty, although I know his writing is challenging af).

I kinda wanna read Dracula because its my mom's favorite book, too. And I have like a bazillion books saved to a word doc, mostly recs I got from /lit/.

I have no idea where to begin.

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>>42080373
Good choice. It's a shame epistolaries are a dying literary form. Only other one I can think of is The Watchmen, and it's only partially.

Don't forget to play Rondo of Blood, Symphony of the Night (the PSP Dracula X Chronicles versions) and Bloodlines. Portrait of Ruin is a good one, too.

And Ponyvania: Order of Equestria.
Ponyvania: Order of Equestria Intro
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/188865
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My mom recommended me a book called 'The Museum Of Extraordinary Things' and I started it last night. It's decent so far.

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Didn't want to read actual text today, so I just looked to see what audiobooks are on youtube, and decided to try Jurassic Park.
It's great, and I'm about 2/13 hours into it.
No spoilers pls, I actually haven't seen the movies.

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>>42080971
the dinosaur did it

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>>42081000
reeeeeeeeeeeeeee
nice trips

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>>42080971
>>42081000

Also, and this might astonish you, but the whole dinosaur park idea? Doesn't quite work out like planned.

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>Pet Sematary

Loving it so far, King can do some good cosmic horror when he sets his mind to it.
Inspired me to go visit the pet cemetery in the woods near my grandma's.

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>>42081134
I read that years ago, was a pretty fun book. Stephen King is one of my mom' favorite authors.

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7/13hrs into the Jurassic Park audiobook now. Finally got to the actual action. Narrator is fantastic. When that one guy got acid spit in his eyes, imagining it actually made my eyes water.
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Finished Jurassic Park and got a book of a thousand Japanese haikus from the library.

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I want to get back to reading.
It will help me improve my language skills.

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>>42082578
UNF
Those brownish pages and old school formatting.

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http://english204-dcc.blogspot.com/2011/04/snake-steinbeck-john.html?m=1
>She turned her misty eyes to him. "Will he eat it now?" she asked.
>"Of course he'll eat it. He didn't kill it for a thrill. He killed it because he was hungry."
>The corners of the woman's mouth turned up a trifle again. She looked back at the snake. "I want to see him eat it."
>Now the snake came out of its corner again. There was no striking curve in its neck, but it approached the rat gingerly, ready to jump back in case it attacked. It nudged the body gently with its blunt nose, and drew away. Satisfied that it was dead, the snake touched the body all over with its chin, from head to tail. It seemed to measure the body and to kiss it. Finally it opened its mouth and unhinged its jaws at the corners.
>Mr. Phillips put his will against his head to keep it from turning toward the woman. He thought, "If she's opening her mouth, I'll be sick. I'll be afraid." He suc­ceeded in keeping his eyes away.
>The snake fitted its jaws over the rat's head and then with a slow peristaltic pulsing, began to engulf the rat. The jaws gripped and the whole throat crawled up, and the jaws gripped again.
OwO

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Finished 'The Penguin Book Of Japanese Haikus', moving onto a book about black holes that I got at the library today called 'Einstein's Monsters'.

I also got a book about auto-driving cars that I'm hoping my brother might read because he loves auto-mechanic stuff, but:
>my brother
>reading
Not holding my breath.
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Started 'The Peabody Sisters'. Pretty fucking massive/dense book, but it seems really interesting and well-researched.

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got sidetracked with a book I love from my childhood Artemis Fowl

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Skipping between comics now. The recent Prez series, The Shadow comics, and Spider-Gwen. Hopefully those count.
Have some art from books I already read.

>>42084785

Oh, recently read the first book for the first time!
Passed over it as a kid because a friend reading it managed to make it sound like it was about a kid that just sits in an office and hacks computers. Didn't even mention fairies, which would've gotten me onboard back then.

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>>42084918
What did you think of it?

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>>42084921

Loved it! Artemis was such a little bastard. I want to be him when I grow up.
Are the sequels any good?

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>>42084922
>Are the sequels any good?
I don't remember honestly. It's been like a decade since I've read them.

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I read the short story Sonny's Blues by James Baldwin.
It's about two brothers. One of them is an algebra teacher with a family, and the other is a musician who gets addicted to heroin.
F E E L S

Sonny's Blues James Baldwin (Full Audiobook)

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>>42085876
Yawn, tbh.

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>>42085971
You 186-year-old waleheaded fag, blow me.

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>>42085876
He raised Phil, and loves the ladies.

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>>42085984
Ummm....sure!

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I'm not reading enough so bump

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I'm 90-odd percent through The Last Herald Mage trilogy by Mercedes Lackey. Not a bad story but too much time is spent on relationship nonsense and there is not nearly enough explosions for my taste.

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It's World Book Day today.

I finished Bushido: Way Of The Warrior, also known as Soul Of Japan today.

In also recently read The Book Of Five Rings.

I went to the library and took out a novelization of Kong: Skull Island, and also a collection of Leonard Cohen's poetry (RIP).

Getting back into the swing of things, audiobooks and short books definitely help.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-48036694

A Clockwork Condition, which runs to 200 pages, is a collection of Burgess' thoughts on the human condition and develops the themes from his 1962 book.

The novel told the story of the state's attempt to cure a teenage delinquent.

The unfinished non-fiction follow-up is described as "part philosophical reflection and part autobiography".

In it, Burgess also addressed the controversy surrounding director Stanley Kubrick's 1971 movie adaptation of A Clockwork Orange.

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I am almost 40% of the way into The Illuminatus! trilogy by Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson. Is an entertaining Discordian conspiracy novel which amongst other things created the 23 enigma(fnord). I had tried listening to an audiobook version before but ended missing large swathes of it because I would get distracted and tune it out.

Also continuing my study of the American Civil War with Mosby's Rangers by Jeffry D. Wert and Narrative of Military Operations during the Civil War by General Joseph E. Johnston.

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Finished reading Sharpe's Triumph, about to start up Fortress now.

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>>42087799
Have you seen the Sean Bean miniseries?

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I read this tonight:

[Seminal Japanese Legend Audiobook] The Ghost of Sakura

Very old Japanese folktale.

It has actually inspired me to write my own ghost story. I wrote some notes for it already.

It's kinda fascinating to me that a lot of these stories we now consider supernatural nonsense came from old times/cultures where many people truly believed it.

This particular story had some pretty edgy stuff in it and kinda spooked me, I'm not usually into ghost/supernatural stuff.

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And this tonight:

One Hundred Verses from Old Japan | Teika no Fujiwara | Audiobook

100 old, short Japanese poems, all with the same structure/length/rhyme scheme, by many authors, ranging thematically from the beauty and harshness of nature, to love/longing, and the melancholy of growing old.

Kind of curious about giving poems like these my own attempt.

Taken from the intro:

Japanese poetry differs very largely from anything we are used to; it has no rhyme or alliteration, and little, if any, rhythm, as we understand it. The verses in this Collection are all what are called Tanka, which was for many years the only form of verse known to the Japanese. A tanka verse has five lines
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and thirty-one syllables, arranged thus: 5-7-5-7-7 as this is an unusual metre in our ears, I have adopted for the translation a five-lined verse of 8-6-8-6-6 metre, with the second, fourth, and fifth lines rhyming, in the hope of retaining at least some resemblance to the original form, while making the sound more familiar to English readers.
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Reading Blood Meridian. I expect ultra violence.

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I read this: Confucian Analects Audiobook by Confucius

I have to say, while Confucius was probably very revolutionary for his time, his philosophies by today's standards are really...not super impressive tbh. it's basically just "be nice to people, pursue learning, be loyal to family" the first two of which are common sense these days and the last one which has debatable value depending on the family. Like this entire 3hr audiobook is basically dozens upon dozens of different ways of him expressing this and a few other things.

>>42088220
You're gonna get ultra-violence. Blood Meridian is one of the best books I've read so far.

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Waiting for summer so I can read fiction again. Been reading nothing but textbooks (but they're good ones!) lately

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>>42088220

Ultra violence AND scenery porn.

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Reading Dune [and a lot of sci-fi classics on the way] while break from reading The Witcher -- I got started on The Time of Contempt and just needed a break.

Dune's gud!
>>42088235
Reading Confucius without annotations and a good grasp of the later commentaries and extensions is unfortunately, pretty stifling. The Four Books kind of have to be studied as a set [especially Mencius because he was so essential to Neo Confucianism]. I got lazy and settled for a good reference for in-practice Confucianism.

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>>42088370

The whole series written by Frank Herbert is fantastic, although it does get a bit weird after God-Emperor, kinda feels like it loses the last connection to the original book by that point (I know, the gholas and that was intentional, but it's still a bit weird to me), but it still remains worth reading.

Anything by Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson, though, can go right in the trash.

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>>42088370
What would you recommend to read on Confucianism?

Also I just finished this: [Taoism Audiobook] Musings of a Chinese Mystic (Teachings of Zhuangzi) The Way of Dao - 2017 which is basically built off of Confucianism but is critical of it and takes it much further. Some of it kinda resonated with me (particularly the stuff about the problems of finding happiness in external things, I like the idea of finding true happiness purely within yourself and free from dependency on the world outside you) but some of it also spooked me a little (mainly the stuff that implies free will may not exist and we are just puppets of god or whatever, although I don't think this was meant to be scary).

I really like Max Stirner and some of this Taoism stuff almost sounds like a more mystical/spiritual version of what he wrote centuries later.

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>email field
wtf lol
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>>42088390
This is what I read for the SHORT version: https://www.amazon.com/Confucianism-Short-Introduction-John-Berthrong/dp/1851682368. It does a good job of convey the three facets of Confucianism: What Master Kong thought, what the later scholars took from it and added, and how laymen performed it.

The book recommends the Leys translation of the Analects, and I'll further say that the Norton Critical Edition as a series is usually good. I haven't read specifically the Norton Critical of it, but it was of *immense* help when I was doing Russian Lit. The traditional Four Books and Five Classics is probably overkill, I'd probably just stick to the Analects and Mencius, but if you plan on looking into more Chinese topics you should just bite the bullet and study the Four Books in depth. You can mooostly ignore the Five Classics and lean on annotations for other Chinese subjects.

Daoist philosophy is definitely one of those things I pick and choose from. A lot of Daoist thought is so aggressively anti-intellectual that I find it gross. I will forever regret swapping my perfectly good Penguin edition of the Daodejing for some stupid westerner's revisionist version; no writing has ever frustrated me as much as Zhuangzi. Lots of the ways of Dao are useful, but as a whole I found the most use out of Buddhist thought personally. The Gospel of the Buddha influenced me than any other text. It encouraged me to dust of a lot of suttas and read them in depth. Chinese Buddhism, as it turns out, is a weird tradeoff between Buddhist self reliance and Chinese supplication and reliance on higher stationed individuals. Also, rainbow mind telepathy. Thanks Amitāyurdhyāna Sūtra!

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>>42088394
Thank you so much, I saved this whole post in my "General Literature" document.

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>>42088396
is gud
If I ever win the lotto, I'm going to buy a one of those elusive $1k+ copies of the Pali canon and pay people to scan them. The idea that bhikkhus could translate it in English and then jealously guard them like exclusive property is unthinkable, Gautama Buddha was quite clear that nothing should be held in the closed palm of the teacher, and he taught without charge, asking only for food.

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Mountain Man by Vardis Fisher.

If you like read books about lawless settlers and Indians fighting blood feuds, this is the book for you.

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Read The Book of Tea (Audio Book) by Okakura Kakuzo (1863-1913)
This is another book with stuff about daoism in it, but also "teaism" and its influence on aesthetics and art and stuff.

I like the notions about "finding beauty even in the mundane" and the idea that "there is an art to cleaning."

Like, I guess I just really like the idea of being able to appreciate/enjoy or even have deep experiences with things that most people consider boring, basic etc. I feel like it could open the door to just having a general better sense of positiveness about many things in life.

It makes me think of music like harsh noise wall and vaporwave, which takes samples of stuff that most people consider uninteresting (for the former, stuff like static, rain, animal noises etc., and for the latter, stuff like elevator music or supermarket muzak) and recontextualizes/uses them in ways that are actually enjoyable.
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[Mysticism Audiobook] Taoism Based on Naturalism: Yang Chu's Garden of Pleasure

This guy was basically the ancient Chinese Max Stirner, and these are his only surviving writings, with the rest being lost in mass book burnings.

Apparently he was heavily critiqued by many, with people calling his early form of egoism complete blasphemy, basically.

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Anybody got any recs for things along the lines of Nick Land’s CCRU era writings?

Reading Fanged Noumena right now and he’s such a good writer. Gonna read the CCRU collection next and then Anti-Oedipus.

Looked into his new stuff and it’s so incredibly disappointing in content and style compared to the stuff in FN. It’s like he’s another person with this Dark Enlightenment stuff that is just at a so much lower level than his older stuff. His blog is even worse.
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Am reading the Overlord light novel.

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>>42088370
Dune was good, but not what I expected
I expected a lot more of the first chunk of the book, before the end of the first act, but I like what I found in the second two acts. I do hope that Dune Messiah and onwards do more of 'normal but skilled people politicking' and less omnissiah emperor dabs on the mortals. Don't get me wrong, I love watching Muad'dib style on everyone. However, what little I know of Dune 2 and onwards is that the opposite is going to happen. Oh well.

I now choose what next to read, maybe you all have a suggestion? The options I'm stewing over are:
-Witcher 2 (as in, Time of Contempt)
-Rama I
-Carl Sagan's Contact
-Forever War 1
-A Song of Ice and Fire 1
-Foundation 1
-Ringworld 1
-Neuromancer
-Martian Chronicles
-Unspecified history book

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Ender’s Game?

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>>42090194
By Foundation and Chronicles i assume you mean the originals by Asimov and Bradbury, respectively.

Fundamentals should be attended to by anyone serious about their reading health. I recommend the above choices as your next read, perhaps in parallel as they have contrasting perspectives.

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Depends on what you mean by Foundation 1.

Prelude to Foundation and Forward the Foundation come first chronologically, but were written later. And, IMHO, they're a bit better than the core "Foundation Trilogy." Although the several of the Foundation series expect familiarity with previous Asimov story arcs. The fate of Giskard and how the Earth wound up in the state it's in.

At any rate, if you've never read Neuromancer, do it right now. Also, the short story Johnny Mnemonic. (The POS movie has almost nothing to do with it and actually cut out a principle character, so I hope you never saw that garbage).

The other two in the Sprawl Trilogy and New Rose Hotel and Burning Chrome are optional.

Mr. Gibson said he isn't too impressed by CD Projekt's 2077 trailer. I'm not sure what he means by "generic."

I suppose most people envision something like Blade Runner/the Ghost in the Shell Ghost City sequence with grey, dingy skies and rainfall and lots and lots of neon lights everywhere instead of just brightly lit Detroit with flying cars, but isn't the rainy Bladerunner aesthetic a bit overdone? Even though that's exactly how he wrote it in the legendary opening paragraphs.

Ghost in the Shell - Ghost City
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>>42090194
While were talking about Dune how did David Lynch get this from something called a battle girdle.

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>>42090197
I'm hesitant to read anything by that author. It's so unfortunate, because something I wanna expose myself to more space tactics, but the guy seems like such an asshole that it's offputting.
>>42090199
Yes and yes, this is why I had them on the list! I'm leaning towards Foundation first. I can't parallel read similar-ish things, unfortunately. My brain will combine the stories.
>>42090203
If no-one had replied, I'd probably have read Neuromancer first. Cyberpunk is my jam, and it's on the lips of everyone's inspiration list.

Generally, I read things in release order, and I can usually tough out mediocre first entries when necessary. I blame video games for giving me this non-skill.
>>42090270
Who the fuck knows, I just assumed it was like your paladin's belt in [fantasy game]. Shield belts had rules, but I felt like they were more on the magic side. You know, like a lot of Dune.

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