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books books let's talk about books Chewy [Element Of Fortitude]!MUSIC.FbVYCountry code: blank.gif, country type: ponyflag, valid: 41918898[View All]

I'm a little over 300 pages into Moby Dick and it's REALLY good.

There are an enormous amount of references to historical figures/events, biblical stories, and other authors/books that are mostly lost on me because I am not very well-read in that regard.

My plan is that when I finish the book I will buy my own copy and at some point go through rereading but with a highlighter to mark all the things I want to look up or read about.

I love the prose but I think it's funny how almost every sentence is what my high school english teacher would have considered a "run-on" sentence.

What be you reading, /oat/?
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>>42143524
Send him an email! :P

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>>42143526
Sounds cute.
Too much work.

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>>42143527
I thought about it, haha. But i dont want to make him work for a site he dosnt use for such a frivolous thing.
Indont post there much anyway.

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>>42143526
How much of Suicide Note did you get through?

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>>42143537
As I said I looked at it, but I didn’t end up reading any. 2,000 pages is far too long.

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Just found this really weird set of books about this guy who spent a good decade exploring China in the 1840-50s studying tea.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Fortune

The History Of Tea

Watch from about 12:00 to 14:00.

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Someone made a book from the Slate Star Codex blog. (It's just the blog posts concatenated together in book format.) It's available as PDF/epub/mobi:
https://old.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/hkbfj4/all_articles_20132020_in_one_ebook_epub_mobi_pdf/
At over 9000 pages, it's a big book...

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Finally got it.

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>>42143854
*Codles like a child*
Good pony~
Who's a good pony?
You're a good pony!

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>>42144003
That's so adorable~
Cute cute cute.

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BUMP

finally started a book again. Don Quixote.

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>>42148549
Finished this a few weeks ago, it was really good, although I felt like I was too smooth brained to appreciate a lot of the poetry and other stuff in it. Still fun though.

I started pic related today.

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I've been keeping up with reading a chapter each time I take a walk in the morning (audiobook).

On chapter 6 now.

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Received Thomas Gilby's Poetic Experience: An Introduction to Thomist Aesthetic this week. A hard book to find, written by a relatively unknown Dominican friar. Gilby paints the work of Saint Thomas as promoting "poetic experience", contrary to his reputation as one of the great systematizers in history (his Summa Theologiae comprises sixty-one volumes) and his stance in the modern cultural imagination as a scholastic who tried to "prove" the existence of god. Gilby's thinking is very modern (in the twentieth century sense) and recognizes the role of formal expression against the Romantic retreat into mysticism, at the same time taking the distinction between "rational" experience and the poetic as the meaningful difference and point of departure for the essay.

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>>42148981
I usually average at about ~60 odd pages a day, but I’m aiming for 100 a day this week because I have way too many books that I have to get through. Tried it last week, but it was raining almost everyday, and I do most of my reading outside, so the challenge was pretty fucked from day one.

Also set whatever you listen to your books on at 1.25-1.5x speed if you don’t already. That’s how I listen it things, and it makes them much more efficient. It’s a bit strange at first, but after a minute or two listening to the faster speed your brain normalises it and you can’t even tell the difference. Of you’re listening to longer audiobooks you could cut literally hours off by just adjusting the speed slightly up to 1.25x.

>>42148990
Sounds interesting. Obscure books can be really cool.

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I found a pretty kickass bookstore recently and bought a bunch of books there. I'm currently reading Underground

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>>42148559
So how did you interpret it? Was it a tragedy or a comedy, both or neither?

>>42148981
How are you enjoying it?

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>>42149205
Hiding walls of text so the thread isn’t cluttered up.

More like a somber, somewhat depressing slice of life story, although I really don’t think that gives it justice. I suppose you could say it has tragic elements, but I wouldn’t call it a tragedy.

The book’s about Robert Burns, and works as a kind of narrative, based on a true story biography of his life. It starts with him at his farm mining at a lime quarry, then goes onto him having various conversations with his friends, family, and wife. The book is, as I said, quite depressing because of the subject and how much (and well) it goes into the extreme hardships and poverty of Burns and people around him, but it’s equally uplifting, in a kind “things may be extremely bleak and brutal, but we have each other” kind of way.

Also I’d really say that this book is more poetry than an actual novel. The characters are really well developed and story is interesting, but it really shines through in its prose.

To contrast this with the Transpotting book in terms of its use of Scots, this book is subtle, and the language feels completely natural, it really defines the characters and pulls you into the story, and again, its subtle but excellent use of Scots is where a lot of the great poetry in this book comes from. For a non-Scot this might be a bit difficult, but I found the language to be perfectly naturally. It also only uses Scots in dialogue, everything else is written in perfect English, and while not as poetic as the Scots in the book, is nonetheless written in a very interesting and engaging way. This is how you write a book with Scots.

I found Trainspotting in comparison to be completely unreadable, despite the fact that I live and was born in the era, and place where the book was written and is set in, even knowing most of the places written about in the book, visiting many regularly. The 18th Century Scots felt completely natural, reading a paragraph of 21st century Glaswegian Scots from this book felt a sludge.

The book tries to force as many Scots words and slang as possible, not just in the dialogue, but all throughout the dammed thing. While these words are technically used, and I recognise most of them, no one who I’ve ever met uses them half, or even a quarter as often as they do in this book. IRL someone might use one or two of these words or phrases in every paragraph or so, but when they’re literally every other word used, and it’s the most obtuse vernacular possible it legitimately reads like foreign language you’re only half familiar with. If your book can’t be read, and sounds like a foreign language to someone who was likely born less than a few miles from you, you know you’ve fucked up. (I would post an example, but I don’t want anyone reading the picture and accidentally mixing up the books.)

I know I kind of went off on a side rant. But one of the first things I thought of when reading this was just how beautiful and poetic it was compared to Trainspotting. Feels like an authentic comfy book written by and for Scots, about Scots, while the later feels like a cash grab amid at Americans, so they can gawk at the language in the book.

I put it down after getting a third of the way through, because again, I really think this should be read primarily as a work of poetry, so I intend to dip in and out of it. Well worth a skim through at the very least for the prose alone if you ever have the chance, not to mention the amazingly written characters.

I don’t exaggerate when I say that this may be the comfiest book I own. If I had to describe it in a word that would be it, next would be poetic. I feel like I’m not qualified enough to give the book the credit it deserves.
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>>42149270
I was talking about Don Quixote haha.

But that actually makes me want to read that so that's even better.

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>>42149273
Oh, sorry. Thought you were talking about the book in the post.

Kind of both, although more of a comedy than a tragedy, and when this book wants to be funny it can be really funny.. As I said in the post, it was good, although I feel like I didn’t really get much out of it. Felt really archaic, in a way that was enjoyable, but hard to really get much out of.

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>>42149280
Unfortunately I think that’s probably translation dependent. Iirc the Everymans translation is Motteux right? That translation was written in the 1600s. English is just different.

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>>42149315
Yes, and it was translated in 1700-1703.
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>>42149079
It's fun to find a rare book in an age where books are generally no longer rare.

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>>42149440
I have a pretty cool charity shop fairly close to me that does 3 books for a pound, and a lot of those are really good, and there’s a decent amount of rarer books there as well. I got the Robert Burns one for free because they just give away a lot of their books, because they get in more than they can sell.

Saw a hardback collection of the whole Sherlock book collection there a few days ago that would have been just 50p by itself. Came so close to buying it, but I try not to have too many unread books, and I already have about 4. If it’s still there in about a week or two I’ll get it, if it’s not there’s no doubt that there’ll be several different things that I’ll find equally as interesting anyway.
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>>42149446
You're a pretty fast reader, aren't you? I think if I concerned myself with having a backlog I would never get any new books. Some books I go straight through; others I like to "have around" and consult or return to intermittently. My library is stocked heavily with bookmarks and I am perfectly content and even proud to pace it that way.

Books are tantalizing. When I'm in a browsing situation, I have to be clear with myself what I have room in my life for, rather than what I have left to read. There's always something left to read. But there is far less that resonates with my curiosity, my uncertainty, and my need in the present, which is more often a feeling than a fully articulated thought (the book is part of the process of articulation). So in most cases I "follow my nose" in terms of my taste, and follow my budget with regard to new purchases.

I notice you read a lot of fiction. Do you ever attempt to write fiction yourself, or is it just a love affair?

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>>42149447
>You're a pretty fast reader, aren't you?
Not really, I just read a lot because I don’t have much better to do. I’m probably slightly slower than most if anything, I just have more free time.

Also I was lying a bit when I said that I have just ~4 unread books. I have a few more, but they’re books I don’t intend to finish anytime soon for one reason or another. One of them’s a massive hardback collection of Has Christian Anderson stories, that I occasionally look at, but will probably never read half of, never mind fully read. The rest are too long and/or hard or uninteresting for me to want to get through them right now.

I’m hoping to get through pic related before I buy anything else. I usually buy about 4 book, read them, and then buy another 4.

>Do you ever attempt to write fiction yourself, or is it just a love affair?

No, although I’ve thought about it quite a bit. It’s something I’ll do at some point, but not right now.

Where do you buy your books anyway?
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>>42149205
Its okay. It was at my friend's encouragement to read it and I'm 10 chapters in now. Given that the whole book is somewhere in the ballpark of 1,000 pages, I'm gonna give it more of a chance. The routine of one audiobook chapter while walking most mornings has been really good so far, especially when I take cool pictures.

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Everyone gangsta when we talking about the war on the sparrows, but nobody want to talk about the war on grass.

Imagine going out into your garden and individually removing every blade of grass by hand.

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>>42149668

So this is where the SJW lunatics got the idea that lawns are symbols of white supremacist patriarchal colonization...

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Currently on my reading list are:
The Influence of Sea Power upon History 1660-1805 by Alfred Thayer Mahan.
The Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors by James D. Hornfischer
Sea Power by Admiral James Stravridis.

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Got these earlier on today. The small blue book is apparently the signed diary (or collection of short essays about random things in his life or his thoughts on everything from golf to goldfish) of the guy who wrote the Winnie The Pooh books. I thought it was just some random guy who wrote it when I bought it, so I was a bit surprised when i looked up the name. Already read about 6 or so of the chapters, if you can even call them that. Pretty good.

I got the English one because I had already bought the other two, and it’s a buy 3 for a pound deal, so it was essentially free. After skimming through it it doesn’t look as interesting as I first thought, but again, it was free, and I’m sure I could at least read a few of the more interesting parts, and skip the others.

The last book is pretty obvious, I mean, it was 50p. That’ll be fun to dip in and out of, and I’ve put it next to my Robert Burn’s novel.

>>42149695
Are those just military books, or do they cover trade, exportation, geo-politics, etc.

Also nice sword.

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>>42149731

Mostly military, they do touch upon trade and geopolitics though. The Influence of Sea Power on History is the book that caused the battleship arms race of the late 19th and early 20th centuries and as such is the reason the like of everything from HMS Dreadnought to IJN Yamato were built.

Is a US Navy Officer's sword.

Add to that list:
On Wave and Wing by Barrett Tillman.
and: Overlord volume 14,The Witch of the Falling Kingdom by Kagane Maruyama.

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>>42149457
A hardback collection of fairy tales is interesting enough as an antique, and is perhaps even a caricature of what antiques represent to us. A few years ago when I was still living up north I found an old library tucked away on a road leading up to the river, about twenty minutes from where I was staying. I was in a particularly gray city living in old factory housing and would make jaunts to the more nostalgic townships that were nearby, and in one of them I stumbled on an old colonial maintained by the local historical society which had a small but interesting collection of books. It was toward the end of my time there, and I intended on going through some of the local and out of print volumes that were preserved; but on my first visit I remember taking out a volume of Rudyard Kipling, which turned out to be a good pairing with the memory of the creaking library and the invitation of escape that it offered. "Escape" might not be the right word, though.

Where do I buy books? Sometimes there are large book sales around here where I'll go and look around for a couple hours. Most of the time though I am interested in something in particular, and sometimes something rather expensive, so I will order online.

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So my dad sent me this

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>>42152241
What's it about?

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Got these today. They’re only about 150 pages each so I’m hoping to be finished by the end of next week.

>>42153108
What are you reading right now?

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>>42153155
I'm in the weeds on a writing project so my time spent reading the works of others is somewhat diminished at the moment. That may sound a bit strange but there is a side to "inspiration" which has to do with memory and not getting distracted with imitation.

But I have an ongoing relationship with a book called The Moon of Hoa Binh, a monumental but not very well-known book self-published by an ex-intelligence officer from the Vietnam War and his wife, a Vietnamese scholar. Hypothetically it is a sort of military suspense thriller, but its thetical content is difficult to summarize in a short space (in the same way it would be difficult to summarize Ulysses--a man going about his day in Dublin?)--it must be read. It is written with feverish intellectuality but goes beyond the Western dialectic of "belonging" and scientific isolation of aspect in its philosophic scope. It conveys a sense of Vician historiography through the life attitudes and relationships of its characters that I haven't encountered anywhere else, maybe not even in Joyce.

It also has, for my money, some of the best sex scenes you'll find in any book.

Interesting selections you have there. Do you see those works as being in dialogue with each other, or how do they relate for you? And by the way, do you read a lot of poetry?

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>>42153288
Reading Rainbow transition noise

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>>42153223
>I'm in the weeds on a writing project
Cool, what are you writing about?

I’m planning on writing a story, but I want to do some research for it and read a few book about the time and place I’m writing about before I start, so it’ll probably be postponed till early next year. Right now I’m just noting down any ideas I get, and I’ve done about a thousand words, just so I have something, as a kind of encouragement.

Premise:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-DUykbknlQntxq5ZpZCjM_OQnTiohQeC3RY6s9pjK0w/mobilebasic

Story (so far):
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-dgnpqcdeBvgyMQbYQIk493pU4Busb-SNGqgNiabvBQ/mobilebasic (keep in mind this hasn’t been edited or properly preened through.)

>The Moon of Hoa Binh

Sounds really interesting, although I unfortunately don’t think I’ll be able to check it out. Too long, and Amazon says it costs over a hundred pounds.

>how do they relate for you?

I bought an old hardback copy of Plutarch’s Lives from a charity shop about a month ago. I tried, but it was too difficult. Because it’s an older book there aren’t any good explanatory notes, and the book constantly makes reference to obscure things, people, and places from thousands of years ago, sometimes just from our perspective, sometimes these events were ancient and obscure even to Plutarch. That made a lot of it completely unintelligible (especially the Greek lives), not to mention that a some of the quotes from the book were in Ancient Greek, so yeah.

A lot of the book feels like I’m reading a fiction story with no context going in. You might hear as many as 20 names in a single page, half of which you can’t pronounce, and next to none of which you’ll know. Things like the names of all the family members and friends, rivals, etc of someone who themselves is really obscure.

Without at least a basic understanding of the people he’s talking about I wouldn’t even recommend trying to read most of the Lives, you’ll just get lost. Still keeping it because I want to read it as some point in the future, but that won’t be any time soon.

Anyway, getting away from my ramble. I bought The Republic and The Laws because I wanted something written roughly from the same time that was easier. Plutarch’s Lives is over 1.5x as long as War and Peace, this book is like a short novella.

Culture and Anarchy seemed interesting to me because of the time it was written. Sounded like it would be interesting perspective on culture from a time I’m fascinated by.

>And by the way, do you read a lot of poetry?

No not really, but I do have a Kipling book.
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>>42153319
Oh, neat! I thought you had said before that you weren't writing anything.

Well, Minty, I will give you two impressions I have based on your premise and what you have so far written, and what I know about you based on our exchanges.

First: It will take you at least ten years to get this story out of your head onto paper, perhaps in several attempts, and when you get to the end it might not be about an English nobleman traveling in northern Africa.

Second: You will learn what this story is about when you are done writing it.

These are my predictions, and if I turn out to be wrong, I will buy you a Coke.

The overall sweep of your story seems very rich and you appear to have a knack for setting historical elements. The style is a little rough but you will work through that. I think you could do very well.

As for my thing:
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/478160/everybody-dupes

And I'm afraid in the face of such a strident literary ambition as yours I must carp like the Walmart shooter to avoid embarrassment!
Hostages Trapped Inside Walmart Insisting They Never Shop At Walmart

I'm sure you don't care at all about the details, but for context I wrote a fanfic in 2007 about Hotel Mario, and then another in 2012 about MLP, but for various reasons finished neither. Well, an aspirant writer should have the experience of completing something, so I set out to write a short comedy story with the goal of completion. Two years later, this is what came out.

Rarity takes a life-changing dump at the Mirror Pool.

I am 34 years old.

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>>42154467
>It will take you at least ten years
Starting from early next year I think it’ll take 2-3 years to finish. I used to write some MLP fanfiction, and when I got into the swing of it I could easily write at least a thousand words a day consistently for over a week. After I’ve read a little on the topic and feel confident enough to start properly writing I think I could keep to a decent schedule.

>The style is a little rough

Yeah, I just wanted to get something written down before I got into it later as I said. Haven’t preened through it yet to fix anything.

I hardly intend it to be a masterpiece, but if I do follow through I think I could write a pretty interesting story. Just need to put the time and effort in, plus my girlfriend is encouraging me to do it, so she’ll be on my case if I don’t follow through with it.

>Rarity takes a life-changing dump at the Mirror Pool.

Sounds like it could have some potential, ha ha. I’ll give it a read later on today.

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>>42154479
>I hardly intend it to be a masterpiece
Yes, yes. But... Why not, you know?

Good to hear you have support and encouragement, and you have my support and encouragement, too, albeit in a slightly different capacity...
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>>42154490
Sorry, the site never bumps this thread so I didn’t see your reply. Maybe we need a new thread.

>Yes, yes. But... Why not, you know?

I’m going to do the best I can, but I doubt it’ll be the next big classic.

I didn’t get a chance to read your thing yesterday because I was busy with my family. I’m about to read it right now. That’s why I checked back up on this thread.

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>>42154467
It’s not really my thing, but it’s good. Although I do think it needs some editing to clear up the flow and some of the prose. Parts of it feel a bit disjointed, like there are parts that are really wordy, and others that feel a bit lacking.

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>>42154713
Aye. Well, thanks for the read.

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Just finished Flowers for Algernon with my students again. Someone always cries at the end lol. Good book.


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