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Do you believe in ayy lmao's or ghosts? I don't entirely believe in ghosts but I do think there might be something out there in this gigantic universe.

☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfo 41866361

I believe in what many people would call ghosts from experiencing things I can't explain. Moving shadows and the like.

Kabel Hoofajug that Licks {🐛BUG🍏} Emoji Lycan Maidens 41866363

I'm nawt saying Crayon Changelings eating Fruity Pebbles- but...


Macaroni !RevGiOKgRo 41866365

Neither of the two.


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Care to explain your experience?

I am going to respond to this with the usual "wat?"

☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfo 41866368

The house I grew up in was haunted and I'd often see a shadow on the wall move when I was home alone.


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I see, interesting.

☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfo 41866377

Yeah. I tried to debunk it as something reflecting through a window or two but couldn't.

Heavy Mole 41866419

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I do believe in ghosts! Maybe not the corporeal kind or the ones that chase you when you turn away from them. But the notion of "ghosts" arises from the connection between memory and death.

Suppose we spent a week together and I told you that, though your body will live on, you won't remember me or anything that happened during the time we spent together, including what I am telling you now? Psychologically it is death. Since "forgetting" is dying, then "remembering" must be what "lives on". Colloquially we speak of "remembering ourselves" when undergoing a trial in pursuit of an aim, for instance. But who is the rememberer? Is it one person or many? And can the memory itself take on a "life" which is more real than the actual life being remembered? That is a ghost.

So a "ghost" in one sense is "the living past", but it is also "dead meaning". It is used this way by Stirner, for instance, but as an idea it appears in myths and folk tales long before he appropriated it. And not always in a negative sense, either! There's a fable by R.L. Stevenson where a man is lead by a spirit to dig up the cairn of his ancestors, from which he receives instructions he doesn't understand but which will lead him to his destiny (meeting the mother of his unborn son, who is the 'leading spirit').

Dom The Bear!f1BearzjRw 41866443

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Aliens are definitely real.

I doubt they've come here though. Our universe is not that small.

Ghost I dunno.

Sometimes people say they see my grandpa at my grandmas house.


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See, that's what im sayin'

Dom The Bear!f1BearzjRw 41866453

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Recently I cam across a thing that theorized the size of the observable universe VS the size of the actual universe.

TL:DR it basically compared the observable universe to being the size of a light bulb, and the entire universe being the size of Pluto.

Space is big.

Pruddy beeeeg

!ScyphTlOY6 41866455

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Ghosts are just hallucinations, but if the hallucination carries any meaning for the person who saw it, then for them they saw a real ghost.
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!AppLeJAcK. 41866474

do you know the source of this webm?

Dom The Bear!f1BearzjRw 41866475

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The Person Who Posts As Fluttershy (Element of Self-descriptive Usernames) 41866476

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No ones gonna go for it?
Ghosts are a spook!

!AppLeJAcK. 41866479


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That is pretty damn cool and interesting. Saved.

Ghosts are a spook of the mind. And everything else is to. Which it all belongs to me. It's all mine.

All property belongs to me

...Is this how you egoist?

Macaroni !RevGiOKgRo 41866510

Getting the meme down, which is fun enough.


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It is a pretty fun one I will admit.

Heavy Mole 41866521

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I mentioned it! Just not in a "fun" way.

Hispanon !ArepaaIqL. 41866528

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I'm a ghost!


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Hispanon !ArepaaIqL. 41866537

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Hips, you silly.

Hispanon !ArepaaIqL. 41866556

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It seems someone likes Hips.


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Well, in other news I made a couple of new photoshop edits if you're interested in seeing them.

Hispanon !ArepaaIqL. 41866563


sure, why not.


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Made this one because I felt like I should.


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And I made a starlight shrug pony because one didnt exist yet.

I enjoy making art of my waifu in some way or another in photoshop.
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Hispanon !ArepaaIqL. 41866576

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Not bad.

did you really make these?


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Yes, in Photoshop from templates.

Hispanon !ArepaaIqL. 41866589

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Well done.


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Reav 41866593

Ghosts i dunno, but yeah ayy lmaos.
I just don't think they can visit us or viceversa, too much space, too little useful stuff.
Might be we encounter bacteria or other small shit though, that seems like it'd be simple enough in terms of luck neededfor survival.

Hispanon !ArepaaIqL. 41866604


Whatcha planning?


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That'd be interesting.
Just drinking beers.

Hispanon !ArepaaIqL. 41866612


The usual.


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Oh come on now, my dude.

I only do two times a week.


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I don't believe in ghosts or the supernatural in general, but I do think it's very unlikely that there aren't aliens somewhere in the universe.


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I am on the same boat as you tbh.

Starshine!Laura/wmXM 41866733

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Ghosts, at least as described by culture, don't real imo.

I think ayylmaos probably do. I certainly hope they do, because ours being the only planet with life in the universe is a simultaneously boring and terrifying concept.


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We are not alone. You know it and I know it.

Starshine!Laura/wmXM 41866742

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It definitely seems like the most likely answer. I'm just holding off on committing to the belief until we get concrete evidence.

In the meantime, I also think we should prepare for the possibility that we are, in fact, alone, by taking it upon ourselves to spread life across the universe.


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I think at some point it has to happen. But then again who knows.

...Boring lonely planet right now.

Starshine!Laura/wmXM 41866751

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Note that I'm not saying we are alone. I'm just saying that in the unlikely event that we are, we would be responsible for populating the universe.

I think if we're aware of a planet that is young, in the habitable zone, and known to be devoid of life, we should send a probe containing simple microscopic lifeforms to "seed" it.


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I see, interesting. Go to space Starshine and find some ayy lmao's.

Starshine!Laura/wmXM 41866760

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I would love to, but I don't think I have the money or the lifespan for it.

I'll settle for founding the Planet Seeding Foundation and devoting my life to funding the diaspora of life throughout the cosmos.


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Well, I guess I will too.

Macaroni !RevGiOKgRo 41866775

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!ScyphTlOY6 41866779

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What makes this so important to you? Seems to me that spreading life would be 100% morally neutral.

Starshine!Laura/wmXM 41866786

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Sweet! Another one for the cause.

Well, one of my core beliefs is that life is valuable and must be preserved. If we're the only planet with it in the universe, that makes humans the most sapient life in the universe. So if we fuck ourselves over and kill off the planet, or even fail to get off it before the sun goes kaput, wouldn't that make it kind of our fault that the universe would be a lifeless abyss after we're gone?

I think studying astronomy has really solidified this view by giving some perspective on just how young life as we know it is compared to existence as we know it. If we're the first, we could also be the last, and that thought bugs me.
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!ScyphTlOY6 41866801

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But why "life" in general, if it's not even any kind of life that a human will ever see? We're essentially creating ayylmaos at that point.


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Hey Scyph. I was always curious. Why Lyra?

Starshine!Laura/wmXM 41866807

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I dunno. Without life in general, human life wouldn't be possible, you know? But thanks to evolution, all you need for the potential of human life or other sentient life is life in general.

> We're essentially creating ayylmaos at that point.

And is that not the coolest shit you can imagine?

Macaroni !RevGiOKgRo 41866808

>life is valuable and must be preserved.

Value is observer-dependent: should anyone make life that wouldn't want to live?

!ScyphTlOY6 41866809

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I forgot.

Starshine!Laura/wmXM 41866810

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Most life seems to want to live. And this is coming from someone who didn't, once upon a time.

!ScyphTlOY6 41866812

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>And is that not the coolest shit you can imagine?
Well no, I'm of the opinion that it's kinda fucked up that two humans can make a human.


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Fair enough.

Pinkamina WBIY!Im9SILLYXo 41866819

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What about ayy lmao ghosts?

!ScyphTlOY6 41866820

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Go home Beverly you're drunk.

Pinkamina WBIY!Im9SILLYXo 41866821

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Not yet, but I will be soon!

Starshine!Laura/wmXM 41866822

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Guess we're just gonna have to agree to disagree, then.

Macaroni !RevGiOKgRo 41866823

Would a living thing have voluntarily taken up the whole 'living' thing, including desires to stay alive, if it could've been asked?
Many suicidal people have issues working up the nerve, yet they would say the experience of being themselves is of negative value.

Starshine!Laura/wmXM 41866825

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I was one of those people. But now I'm glad I stuck it out.

!ScyphTlOY6 41866832

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Did you get the reference or not?

Pinkamina WBIY!Im9SILLYXo 41866836

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No idea

Macaroni !RevGiOKgRo 41866837

That doesn't answer my first question.

Starshine!Laura/wmXM 41866840

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Your first question is fundamentally unanswerable. A nonliving thing can't voluntarily do anything.

awdrii 41866845

>I think if we're aware of a planet that is young, in the habitable zone, and known to be devoid of life, we should send a probe containing simple microscopic lifeforms to "seed" it.
Earth was once young, in the habitable zone, and devoid of life.

Wouldn't seeding planets with our microbes be destroying or at least severely hampering any possible future life that could develop there? (and if you believe Earth was seeded just extend the question out to wherever Earth life first developed) Is simply that any form of life at all continues to spread and exist good in your philosophical framework? Should we as a people continue attempting to prevent invasive species from out competing native ones for the sake of biodiversity and the fundamental value of a unique species? Or does uniqueness hold no fundamental value and the only good is the continuation of something living?

!ScyphTlOY6 41866847

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I think the theory is that since we don't know how the first living organism came to be, the simplest thing is to assume it's one in a million, and seeding a planet would save it from the most likely fate of never having life spring up.

Starshine!Laura/wmXM 41866858

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That's an excellent point. I do think it's a possibility that Earth may have been seeded. I also do think it would be bad if our life "overtook" life that was already developing on the planet in question, or would have developed without interference. That said, I also think the nature of life is to spread, so pretty much any species could be considered invasive from a certain frame of reference.

Ultimately, I would say my answer to that rests in part on the probability that a lifeless, habitable planet will develop life, and in part on the possibility of seeding with something as primitive and minimally invasive/destructive as possible. Unique life that springs into existence without external influence should be preferred, but created life is better than no life.

Macaroni !RevGiOKgRo 41866867

If it can't consent either way, then the best we can do is make life that will want to live and be grateful it came to be.
We can do this with new humans, but the natural world is not a fun place, and so it may be questioned how much joy we'll really add to the universe.

Starshine!Laura/wmXM 41866870

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How many animal species do you know of that, as a majority, lack the will to live?

Macaroni !RevGiOKgRo 41866873

Would anyone knowingly want to live as an animal, if they could help it?

Starshine!Laura/wmXM 41866878

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You ask this as a member of the most intelligent species we know of. It makes sense to not want to "downgrade" to a "lower" life form. Yet in spite of this, there are people that do.

awdrii 41866880

i guess the specifics of the probabilities and how much we weigh either against the other would be an exercise for future xenobiostatisticians

well it would be a positive amount of joy, the question is what the joy to suffering ratio is and how much suffering outweighs joy. I'm sure ten indian children died to bring me this laptop but i still like it

I think you two have a fundamental difference in core belief in that one of you believes the existence of life is in and of itself a good thing while the other believes only if life experiences more joy than suffering is it a good thing. A discussion about conclusions drawn from these basic premises cannot lead anywhere without reconciling these core premises.

furries arent people

Macaroni !RevGiOKgRo 41866883

Madmen who imagine an environment both kinder and better for human endeavors than civilization itself?
They ask for something that simply isn't.

Macaroni !RevGiOKgRo 41866885

Besides, not everyone even is an AnPrim, and even the ones who are will still have grievances in life...especially with the weight of the wild.

Starshine!Laura/wmXM 41866907

I guess so.

I think we're at an impasse here, for the reason onee-chan cited.


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Okay, I gotta ask... What is an AnPrim?

Macaroni !RevGiOKgRo 41866915

'Life will only be good and worthy if we ban all technology and leadership.'
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!ScyphTlOY6 41866917

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Anarcho-primitivist, they wanna go back to being hunter-gatherers.


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Oh so cavemen? What're they gonna do when someone invents the wheel?
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Macaroni !RevGiOKgRo 41866923

Beat them up and break the wheel so nobody gets oppressed by it's usage.

Heavy Mole 41866944

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My last roommate was sort of an anarcho-primitivist. Their war is with urbanization more than with technics per se. One way of thinking about it is that the world didn't have to develop the way it did. Living in modern societies, the urban or civilized life seems like an inevitable outcome of man's "natural" inclinations. But is it really so? And if not, have we made the best choices in terms of happiness, longevity, and a harmonious relationship with ourselves and the Earth? The AmPrims attempt to offer their own answers to these questions...

I swear I've got a pamphlet around here somewhere...


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This is a weird phenomenon...

Macaroni !RevGiOKgRo 41866951

Weird people of all kinds exist.

Jade!/lOsHARLEY 41866957

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As a science-minded person I can't rule out aliens but I don't really think Ghosts are at all real.

Reverend!Slavshit.Y 41866961

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Both, yes.


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Well yeah.
Yeah, that's the thing about ghosts. There is actual science that can rule it out. Like, it has been said alot of the experiences are usually hallucinations from carbon monoxide and even sometimes infra sounds.

Reverend!Slavshit.Y 41866987


>There is actual science that can rule it out

Hardly applicable to all experiences.


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Does anecdotal evidence topple scientific explanations though?

Reverend!Slavshit.Y 41866994

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When science fails to explain them, yes.


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It has been explained in these cases as I have shown. And there are also psychological explanations that could be presented too.

Reverend!Slavshit.Y 41867000

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>It has been explained in these cases as I have shown.

Some cases sure.

There are many more that are not so easily explained.

>And there are also psychological explanations that could be presented too.

For some, maybe even most, certainly not all.


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Until I see concrete evidence that suggests ghosts exist I will choose to side with scientifical evidence that has been shown. Unless I see this for myself, I am highly skeptical.

Reverend!Slavshit.Y 41867006

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>I will choose to side with scientifical evidence that has been shown

Which isn't much tbh. Only the lowest hanging fruits.
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I would think that evidence showing that people generally hallucinate from carbon monoxide poisoning is a fair theory. Because in general people seem to link their experiences in "old creepy houses" they live in. I tend to side with as the latter (ghosts actually exist) doesn't seem to back very much up besides "I saw it with my own two eyes, man".
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Reverend!Slavshit.Y 41867013

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>I would think that evidence showing that people generally hallucinate from carbon monoxide poising is a fair theory.

Sure, when it's present.

And when it isn't, it's not very helpful for explaining anything.

You don't have to believe anything, but anyone who thinks science has "disproved" anything related to this is getting way ahead of themselves.


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I've never claimed they don't exist in anyway. I just don't believe in ghosts at all. Like, there are people who claim they been choked in their sleep by a ghost when it could have been something as simple as sleep paralysis. I am just skeptical of the existence of ghosts and rightfully so.

Reverend!Slavshit.Y 41867021

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I genuinely hope you experience it.

Some things transcend "science".


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I would absolutely love to experience it. Until then I will remain skeptical.

awdrii 41867024

dude what you hope mikie gets choked in his sleep by a fucking ghost?

Reverend!Slavshit.Y 41867025

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I mean if that's what it takes.

My experiences were never anything violent but they've made me a believer.

I've certainly never suffered from carbon monoxide poisoning and am of sound mind so.

awdrii 41867026

thats fucked man

Reverend!Slavshit.Y 41867028

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Sometimes it takes a negative experience to have one's eyes opened.

Starshine!Laura/wmXM 41867029

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Occam's razor is a spook.

Reverend!Slavshit.Y 41867032

Heavy Mole 41867033

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In five years this is one of only a handful of interactions on this site which has made me laugh out loud.


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But what?

Reverend!Slavshit.Y 41867036

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☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfo 41867037

Occam's Razor: The simplest explanation for something is often the most reasonable and probably the truth.

Starshine!Laura/wmXM 41867039

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It's a useful tool and we do need it sometimes, but we can't assume it's always going to work.


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I always figure it from this way. The simplest way is usually the easiest one.

Heavy Mole 41867044

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Though we should be clear that by "simple" we mean the hypothesis from a set which relies on the fewest assumptions.

Reverend!Slavshit.Y 41867045

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I guess so.

Heavy Mole 41867050

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Does it...

Does it make you...


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meaks me tink ya

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Anonymous 41867071

I don't really believe in anything. Not out of science or philosophy, I just don't.

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