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Why exactly is the world's oldest profession illegal? Anonymous (ID: e05c39) 77058

>guy
>horny
>godammit I'm horny
>tinder
>fucking nothing but links to 3rd party sites to sign up for spamware
>craigslists
>95% M4M party n' play bug seekers
>backpages
>9/10 10/10 outrageously gorgeous women with phone numbers
>sweating sting officer

Alright fucking done with this. Why can't we have a legal universal prostitution economy in the US? We are going to pay the fucking same if not more on drinks at a bar or passionless 3rd dates as we would with a single prostitute with a set goal and set price. Customers get their rocks off. Prostitutes get a protected safe quick job done and onto the next customer. Gubmint gets their tax bribe. Everyone is happy and goods are exchanged for money and the central gubmints benefits and everyone is safer and happier. We can even then enforce safety mandates and medical check ups benefiting all.

Anonymous (ID: 9e265e) 77061

>oldest profession
Better question: where's this coming from?

(ID: edec5c) 77062

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because god forbid people wanting to make money by doing something fun in the "land of the free". how dare two grown adults come to an agreement.

oh no we cant have that...
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(ID: a44a1b) 77063

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>>77058
Puritans.

They have a habit of fucking shit up for everybody else.

Chewy +Element Of Fortitude+!MUSIC.FbVY (ID: ff82c9) 77064

>>77058

agree tbh

Jim Jeffery, as mixed as I am on his comedy, made one really good point about prostitution:

It actually IS legal IF you simply call it pornography.

you can't just pay a girl to fuck you, but if you pay a girl to fuck you and someone films it and puts it on a porn site or DVD, then it's legal somehow lol

(ID: edec5c) 77068

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>>77063
pretty much

>>77064
kek thats true. i never understood that

(ID: a44a1b) 77072

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>>77068
It makes me upset that prostitution is illegal, especially since we're leaning towards legalizing recreational drug use.

Like... Come on, there is no valid reason for it not to be legal other than stupid Bible thumpers getting in a hissy fit over it. Fuck them.

(ID: edec5c) 77080

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>>77072
yeah, they tend to ruin alot of things but uhhhh... idk we can change any of it soon

(ID: a44a1b) 77085

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>>77080
Religion is too ingrained in American society for it to be removed or quarantined effectively at this point, despite the fact that it is one of the major factors holding back any sort of progress we can make as a society.

It's really frustrating.

Chewy +Element Of Fortitude+!MUSIC.FbVY (ID: ff82c9) 77088

uhhhh how about we not turn this into another argument about religion...

(ID: a44a1b) 77091

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>>77088
We can't really discuss this topic without bringing that into it due to religion being the major factor in it being illegal in the first place.

(ID: edec5c) 77092

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>>77085
>>77088
to be fair toy does have a point here

religion does have a role in why its not legal

The Person Who Posts As Fluttershy (Element of Self-descriptive Usernames) (ID: 81562c) 77095

>>77088
But religion is the answer to the question in the OP.

Oh and feminists, and worthless women. but here I repeat myself.

🐈🐈Katicus🐈🐈!FGiFL0Ecls (ID: 6e53d8) 77096

Generating taxes isn't as effective an argument as it should be. A lot of it just gets thrown into the bottomless deficit, which is inconsequential to old people.

(ID: a44a1b) 77101

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>>77095
The feminist thing pisses me off as well because feminists that are against porn and prostitution are awful. How can you claim to be a feminist but also demonize women who want to do something they enjoy just because it's not something that suits you personally?

I am against the objectification of women if that particular women does not want it. Everyone should be treated the way they wish to be treated. However there ARE women that enjoy being porn stars, strippers and prostitutes and to treat these people as 'awful' just for doing something they like to do is terrible.

(ID: edec5c) 77104

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>>77101
i remember watching a doc about this sort of thing

there was a lady in there asking "don't you guys hate being sex objects? you're basically sex slaves"

and the woman responded with nothing but positivity about how much they love it an it pays their bills doing something they love to do

tho these wasn't street prostitutes to be fair. it was a whore house or something in nevada
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jiggy!SATSUkIQg2 (ID: 0ddf61) 77108

>>77104
>and the woman responded with nothing but positivity about how much they love it an it pays their bills doing something they love to do
Ofc they described their job positively; you DON'T want your ass fired when you're so poor you need to have grimy old bears stick bepis in you just to avoid starving.

(ID: edec5c) 77112

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>>77108
i mean they were also talking about how much it pays good so like... yeah

not everyone in this sort of thing is miserable. im pretty sure even toybox can confirm seeing as she knows this sort of stuff

the street prostitutes are the ones who are usually in that situation.

i mean, this sort of work is just fine in holland and im pretty sure it wouldnt be an issue here
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Essie (ID: 26d656) 77113

>>77101

As a feminist I'm not against porn or prostitution but I do see the potential harm in both, and while I am fine with the argument that both should be legal, I think it's important to be pragmatic and come up with logistically sound ways of protecting those who are sex workers or involved in pornography.

First things first, prostitutes are only being hurt by the current system. Because it's illegal, prostitutes are in a vicious cycle of being put in jail only to be released and have nothing else to turn back to but prostitution. Sexually transmitted diseases are a problem, and historically our government has shown they have little desire to speak out when groups such as LGBT people or sex workers are affected. Same goes for porn - there should be fair regulation to ensure actors and actresses are not taken advantage of, that STDs are not swept under the rug, and that shit like sex trafficking and the abuse of children and teenagers is eradicated.

I think there are parallels to drug decriminalization, sure, but in this case we are talking human beings, not substances. For that reason whereas I am fine with an overall laissez faire approach to drugs (and keeping non-violent users out of jail and giving them access to treatment), I do believe we have to be much more careful with people, especially in a field that is quite conductive to abuse, trafficking, and dishonesty.

Essie (ID: 26d656) 77116

>>77104

Yeah idk I don't like a subset of a group speaking on behalf of all others. For many women, sex work is just all they know, and some were even trafficked into it as children or teenagers. While there are many more affluent women, particularly in places like the US or the UK, who do sex work, the ones who are often speaking out positively about it tend to be the ones who are in a more stable and regulated environment. That isn't to say I think it should be illegal, only that we should give all sex workers the opportunity to work in a safer, more protected environment like these women.

British!ArmyXvICNw (ID: 217a60) 77120

Prostitution is why the American West was settled and why Wyoming was accepted into the Union with the first women to be legally allowed to vote (They wouldn't join the union otherwise).

(ID: edec5c) 77123

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>>77116
yeah, that's i mean. the prostitutes on the streets are usually the ones who are involved in a shitty lifestyle and have to do it to survive

part of that is because it's not legal

which is why the ones at whore houses in nevada are usually far more cleaner and regulated, etc. from my understanding atleast.

a holland approach i think would suffice

Essie (ID: 26d656) 77124

>>77123

I don't think there is a perfect solution but all I know is that punishing sex workers and having no safety net in place is not the solution.

(ID: edec5c) 77130

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>>77124
im with you there

Tracer Bullet (ID: bec245) 77210

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Government wouldn't make money/Moms got upset.

Urda (ID: 43c753) 77211

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Wasn’t the first profession a murder?

(ID: a44a1b) 77213

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>>77211
I don't think murder is a profession.

Chewy +Element Of Fortitude+!MUSIC.FbVY (ID: ff82c9) 77218

>>77213

>assassin

(ID: a44a1b) 77220

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>>77218
Assassination is not the same thing as murder, and the first biblical murder was not an assassination.

Snowbell (ID: bd2fe7) 77221

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>>77063

This.

>>77061

Probably cuz even primates do it. Implying that we were doing it before we were even properly "human" and had had the chance to invent any other kind of profession.

Tracer Bullet (ID: bec245) 77223

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>>77220
If it's by the Bible, agriculture was the first job, really.

That and not trusting women.

Snowbell (ID: bd2fe7) 77225

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>>77223

Abraham enjoyed him some prostitutes though.

Chewy +Element Of Fortitude+!MUSIC.FbVY (ID: ff82c9) 77228

>>77220

but isn't intentionally killing regardless of the context still murder?

also humanity goes back way before the Bible was written, so I'm not sure that's a good benchmark.

not that I'm agreeing about it being the first profession tho

Tracer Bullet (ID: bec245) 77229

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>>77225
Cain and Abel enjoyed raisin' cattle and produce. And then stuff happened.

(ID: a44a1b) 77232

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>>77221
Yeah. I think the idea of giving gifts in return for sexual favors is one of the first things a species did before the idea of trade was even established, which is why it's technically the oldest profession.

Reverend!Slavshit.Y (ID: d0878d) 77237

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Abrahamics.

Tracer Bullet (ID: bec245) 77238

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>>77232
>I think the idea of giving gifts in return for sexual favors is one of the first things a species did before the idea of trade was even established
>Giving gifts to get something
Or you could just take it, because you were the biggest and strongest.

Snowbell (ID: bd2fe7) 77290

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>>77229

Adam shagged a bunch of animals in the garden of eden before asking God for a waifu.

Tracer Bullet (ID: bec245) 77294

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>>77290
Nah, one snake fucked 'em both was all.

Snowbell (ID: bd2fe7) 77295

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>>77294

Nope, the serpent freed them from slavery.

Tracer Bullet (ID: bec245) 77296

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>>77295
Dunno, free food and housing and perfect weather forever sounds pretty dece'

Snowbell (ID: bd2fe7) 77297

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>>77296

Sure, you just can't think for yourself. Dangerous freedom, safe slavery and all that.

Also if God actually were omnipotent and omnipresent then he had meant for that to happen from the start in which case the snake had been working for him anyway and it was all just an act.

Tracer Bullet (ID: bec245) 77298

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>>77297
Truly free choice and women were a mistake.

Snowbell (ID: bd2fe7) 77300

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>>77298

Yeah, if Adam and God hadn't fucked it all up we'd still be in paradise getting loads of quality animal poon.

Vio Lette!qXZZ8NDkR. (ID: 5ce897) 77321

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>>77058
Hell yeah! We figured that out in Australia a long time ago and have plenty of controlled prostitution.
>>77061
How have you not heard that expression before?
>>77064
I also love how he then brought up that in America, and only in America, if the girl was under 21, she wouldn't be allowed to have a drink after having jizz on her face. That's another law in America that's just asking to be broken! Why would you separate drinking from becoming a legal adult?

Anonymous (ID: ca9997) 77340

>>77063
Basically this. The religious right hates the idea of people having fun.

We've just recently been tearing their censorship of the various entertainment industries out of their hands, kicking and screaming the entire way, and its going to be a long way till we fully get it taken away from them.

Anonymous (ID: 6f994f) 77341

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Apparently legalizing prostitution just leads to more human trafficking.

Macaroni !RevGiOKgRo (ID: 6e08d1) 77355

>>77341
What?

Snowbell (ID: bd2fe7) 77575

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>>77321
>Why would you separate drinking from becoming a legal adult?

Puritans.

>>77405

Is funny because people are A-OK with importing migrants, refuges, mail-order brides, Thai lady-boys and whatever else knowing full-well they'll be exploited for their labor one way or the other yet exploiting them specifically as prostitutes is crossing some arbitrary line.
Like would you rather be a prostitute in Brazil or Sweden? South Africa or Australia?

!gEapIYWEa2 (ID: ef00eb) 77856

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What really kills me about prostitution is people think it's inherently degenerate, because the law manipulates it into being degenerate. Only the trashiest, nastiest, dumbest, most unethical greedmongers are willing to put up with the idiotic illegality of it, and people are like "hurr, see? Only criminals are prostitutes!"

If it were legal we could have:
* sex classes
* sex coaches
* sex counselors
* sex clubs
* sexual aptitude tests
* sex olympics

and instead we get
* strip clubs
* street hookers
* heroin addicts

Anonymous (ID: 4f7560) 77866

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>>77856
>* sexual aptitude tests
Nani?

The Shucc!YoRdlEjxQ6 (ID: 9e20c3) 77884

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>>77856
I don't understand how we have so many posters who are walking memes, what witch doctor cursed us like this?

!RISkQqf4EM (ID: 01e5a3) 77888

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>>77856
I'm trying to imagine the sex olympics

The Shucc!YoRdlEjxQ6 (ID: 9e20c3) 77889

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>>77887
Yeah, I'm the biggest meme of them all, and I'm tired of other people stealin' my thunder.

Trip Touhous 'Nuclear Hell Raven' 'Socialist' Stagemaster Foalins!oImGreatxA (ID: 0fd3fa) 77899

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>>77856

Sex Olympics hentai VN when?

Mewtini!ffdmeOLmQE (ID: 922fa2) 77902

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>>77856
>Sex aptitude tests

Que

AustroSpike (ID: d4df6f) 78017

I had a good wtf kind of laugh when I saw how many countries outlaw prostitution
and even worse how many are asymmetric about it, either leaving the customer or prostitute free of charge.

Anonymous (ID: ef00eb) 79429

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>>77866
>>77902

You'd understand if you've ever managed to have really boring, unsatisfying sex. You could get like a sex license, which would certify you as a bonified sex god.

>>77888
>>77899

Yeah like, how much weight can she lift with her vagina? Or how far can he jizz? Or just incorporate sex into your gymnastics routine. How about sex-ballet?

Frankly I think the sex coaching would be the most incredible thing.

!ScyphTlOY6 (ID: ec4605) 79432

>>79429
>bonified
pls
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(ID: 94e947) 79436

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>>79429
I like the way you think.

Vio Lette!qXZZ8NDkR. (ID: e162e6) 79450

>>79429
Now that is a thought!
>You call that fucking? My grandma can fuck better than that! If she couldn't, I wouldn't exixt!

!gEapIYWEa2 (ID: ef00eb) 79499

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