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Maroon Auburn!QEUQfdPtTM (ID: ad562f)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid:   492794

This is the white tower in London, it was built in 1080.

It's a nice tower.

Hubert!Zn.OKn9A2o (ID: 72f4aa)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  492797

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>>492794
It'd be a shame if anything happened to it.

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>>492797
im imagining a wrecking ball down going strait into it

and for some reason that thought makes me laugh

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>The last white europeans in 40 years

Mythix (pchans police)!wG1CV58ydQ (ID: 8e0945)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  492803

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>>492798
I came in like a wrecking ball
I never hit so hard in love
All I wanted was to break your walls
All you ever did was wreck me
Yeah, you, you wreck me

Jiggle!Dick2STbYY (ID: 7e8b2b)Country code: bug.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492816

Macaroni (Mobile) !RevGiOKgRo (ID: 36f743)Country code: pittsburgh.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492817

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>>492801
Must not have been the pinnacle of evolution if they're being outcompeted on their own turf lmao

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>>492817
"Pinnacle of evolution" is a strawman, it's just survival at this point. They don't wanna get scorched away by those who likely cannot fathom compassion for them.

And the reason it's framed as "destruction" is because every country hates America, and since America is a republic, vendetta against State is by extension a vendetta against its majority population. Openness to the world is openness to its ideas, and if the world's ideas are opposed to the USA itself, they are by extension opposed to its majority population - they have become the caricature for evil and now fear the culling block. Hate the State and you hate the people who create it - similarly, the PRC would not be able to exist if not for the intense patriotism of the general Han population. Individuals cannot survive long if they atomize themselves, this is a privilege of the few and extremely strong of will; our state of nature is to cynically form collectives for our own self-interest.

If someone ever uses "Oh yeah, well y-y-you're just scared that waipipo are gonna be treated the same way you've treated us!" as a rebuttal, then they're admitting that their real intent is to treat them just as bad as vengeance.

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>>492817
Evolutionary adaptations are based off their current environment. So if the current environment for success entails a sociologically toxic personality that uses victimization to get an upper hand over others by abusing their emotions, then yeah. But the problem is that only is applicable in the current environment.
Through my studies, many species have gone extinct by adapting to a volatile environment that suddenly disappeared.
Guess what happened? They went extinct.

If you kill off all the proven-strong in a easy environment, when that environment changes you're fucked bucko.

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>>492820
I really feel you should read less of whatever it is you're reading.

Macaroni (Mobile) !RevGiOKgRo (ID: 027fce)Country code: pittsburgh.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492877

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>>492820
I prefer data to be handled in serial, not parralel. Try unpacking your thoughts one thing at a time, it helps sometimes.

>>492871
Nature cares not for your values or feelings, or hypotheticals about an imaginary golden age returning for big boys like yourself. If the environment shifts, those most capable of adaptation will prevail, and the rest will be outcompeted. Those dependant on stasis by definition cannot adapt.

Toiletchan (ID: 408464)Country code: templeos.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492878

>>492877
>for big boys like yourself.
I'm not white

Also good job ignoring the entire point I made so you can jack off about capable adaptation based on environment ignoring that I was directly addressing that within a current context
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>>492820
>then they're admitting that their real intent is to treat them just as bad as vengeance.

Or maybe they understand the majority population's fears better than that population does itself, and aren't afraid to say it.

Anonymous (ID: 6607f6)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492881

>>492878
>I'm not white

And yet you identity with and deify that group quite intensely. The only thing you like about not being white is being able to tell people you're not white when you hold crap opinions that one would usually expect from certain types of white people.

Macaroni (Mobile) !RevGiOKgRo (ID: 027fce)Country code: pittsburgh.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492882

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>>492878
White? Who said anything about being white?
And yeah if one depends on one type of environment or one single resource and it goes away, sure they'll perish. Your favored groups won't have this critical weakness, right? They don't deathly require one particular way of life and living in order to persist, I'm sure.

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>>492882
Have you seen africa? They're fucked dude

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>>492887
I mean you do talk about white people a lot for some reason.

Anonymous (ID: 6607f6)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492889

>>492884
Do you actually have any ties to the continent? Have you visited recently?

A number of countries there rank "high" on the Human Development Index. Higher, by the way, than South Africa (lest anyone think that black Africans need white people living among them in order to accomplish anything).

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>>492888
Because it's honestly one of the biggest psychological conditioning events of our generation. I merely took a step back and saw the bigger picture.
I've come to terms with what I am and it's anything but white. However, that realization made me also look at white people more as a whole.

When you think about it, the demonization of an entire race based on a past that all races have committed at some point, plus calling them a 'majority' when they make up roughly 9% of the global population and are declining makes you kind of take a moment.

Czarry (ID: 408464)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  492891

>>492888
Maybe he’s just looking out for me, ya know. I’m white as a cracker

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>>492889
Developmental standards based on and set by white countries, correct?

Anonymous (ID: 6607f6)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492893

>>492892
As a metric, HDI was developed by a Pakistani.

Before that, the common thing to do was simply use economic output, but HDI offers a more complete picture.

Macaroni (Mobile) !RevGiOKgRo (ID: 027fce)Country code: pittsburgh.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492894

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>>492884
Yes, and?
The western world has depended on exploiting their labor and natural resources for centuries, and projections on climate change indicate that their chronically underdeveloped regions, existing as such due to such parasitism, may well collapse completely and cease to be useful within the century. The only places that might weather it all out are those undergoing new development, which are principally...areas that China is entangling themselves into.
Definitively not a western power. Oh well. I'm sure the western world and the precious white race will be just fine going forward without african business.

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>>492891
Me too, but the white half of me is the weakest half.

It's weird.

Anonymous (ID: 6607f6)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492896

>>492894
The only truly based person on this site.

Jiggle!Dick2STbYY (ID: 7e8b2b)Country code: bug.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492897

>>492877
1) Collectives are stronger than individuals.
2) If there is even one hostile collective looming on the horizon, the Arms Race Effect necessitates that disparate individuals mimic such collective power to withstand it; therefore, they agglutinate into collectives themselves. The existence of even one hostile collective is enough to necessitate mirror images the world over.
3) The above creates the Nation; the interests of individuals in a given locale have greater overlap with each other than they do with those in nations an ocean apart.
4) The age of Nations is forever.
5) Nations are inextricable from the people who create them.
6) Every other nation hates the United States.
7) The defining majority population of the United States are white americans.
8) Condemnation of the United States is condemnation of white americans by extension.
9) People imbibe environmental ideas during development, and carry them elsewhere in adulthood; it's much harder to recondition an adult.
10) Foreign individuals carry foreign ideas with them.
11) Transplants from outside the United States inward are somewhat more likely to carry a hatred of the United States inward within them, because they come from realms with a net greater hatred of the United States.
12) Crosspollinations from without inject the United States with self-hatred.
13) This weakens the nation, and in turn its self-defensive power should threats rear their heads.
14) The United States will be outcompeted by nations who would not tolerate the same memes of self-hatred within themselves, and thereby preserve their national strength.
15) When the United States is destroyed, the demonized population, white americans, can expect brutal treatment from the rest of the world who detests them. Bear in mind, the land is resource-rich and desirable.
16) So entrenched have become these ideas of ethnonational self-hatred, that white americans are prohibited from decelerating this movement for their own long-term good; "It is your duty not only to self-immolate, but to do so with a smile!"


>>492894
>>492896
Aaaaaaaand there we go. Hardly a breath in and more dead doo amerigga shit. What else should I have expected.

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>>492893
Man imagine having the rest of the world create your standards that you still register the majority of your countries fall under "Low Human Development".
Meanwhile your highest is rated 66th on an international scale. That 66th rated country, by the way, the Republic of Mauritius was an originally uninhabited island that was discovered by Arabs.
After that, the Dutch colonized it, then the English, and now it's considered diverse with the main religion being Hindu.

Yep, that's the blackest of black cuts of Africa ya got there bud. Sorry, all the 'Culturally and ethnically African' countries are not lookin good on this scale.
Embarrassing.

Anonymous (ID: 6607f6)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492899

>>492897
One can love and want to see it do well America, but also push back against some of this bullshit.

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>>492894
How were they doing for the thousands of years before the current 1,000~ yrs of events people like you cry about.
I'm looking at their historical achievements and it's not lookin' good. A lot of cannibalism and self-destruction.

Oh and you could apply that logic to almost anywhere historically. Let me guess, you have no idea what happened in the Asias during the same period because you're extremely Americanized in your history.

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>>492897
I'm so tired of these 'woke' liberals that base their history solely off of American-based teachings. I get it, I was born here, but damn the type of history we get taught is really steeped in victimization.

No regard for the history of other cultures than the ones they have an agenda for.

Anonymous (ID: 6607f6)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492903

>>492898
You left out the other countries that rank "high" on that list. Black majority countries. I don't see why it is such an embarrassing thing to be mindful of a standard that the whole world is presently using.

And then you've got black Caribbean countries that rank even higher and where, in some cases, the life expectancy there is higher than for black Americans.
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Anonymous (ID: 6607f6)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492907

>>492900
For much of that time living conditions in Europe weren't really superior to Africa south of the Sahara. The divergence in quality of life is a fairly recent thing historically speaking.

If you can't find anything interesting in the histories of the countries and empires that existed before colonization, then you're not really trying.

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>>492907
>For much of that time living conditions in Europe weren't really superior to Africa south of the Sahara

One might say European flight from that mudhole was a diaspora.

Anonymous (ID: 6607f6)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492909

>>492908
Not sure what your point is.

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>>492903
>Seychelles
Somalis
>Algeria
Arabic.
>Tunisia
Arabic.
>Botswana
Formerly one of the world's poorest countries—with a GDP per capita of about US$70 per year in the late 1960s
This changed because of... :O white people enacting mining companies and tourism!
Oh and they're rank 100, I've been listing these in chronological order from best to worst btw
We reached the first one and its not lookin good!
>Libya
Arabic!
>South Africa
WHITE PEOPLE AGAIN DAYUM. Your argument is falling apart once someone looks into the data, yikes!
>Egypt
Need I say anything?
>Gabon
French colonization

Oooooo and we're out of 'high' ranking countries.
Cringe

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>>492907
>For much of that time living conditions in Europe weren't really superior to Africa south of the Sahara.
Once again with unsupported woke-americanized viewpoints. Simply not factual, the information available to us along with the historical logs do explain an extreme difference of lifestyle and hardships faced during similar periods. Of course, the worse being African. Many historical logs denote their 'savage' lifestyle. That's not a racist term either. They were eating each other.
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Anonymous (ID: 6607f6)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492914

>>492910
>white people enacting mining companies

I think you mean black leaders who were able to keep their country from having their mineral rights exploited by post-colonial institutions, and who were able to maintain native governance over their affairs. Which is a far cry from what many other countries had. And the difference shows.

>>492912
It's not "woke" to say that before the early modern period, Europe had no obvious superiority in terms of standard of living.

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>>492914
>Europe had no obvious superiority in terms of standard of living.
Stop making claims you won't back up or can't back up! There is no historical evidence that would be in your favor!
Also give a time period! You are extremely broad in your geographical direction and time period. If we were to direct our view towards the typical "African" tribal races, you couldn't be further than the truth.
There's too many historical accounts from both european to asian that all say how messed up it was.
I don't think you understand how far "European" lifestyles spanned back in comparison. Even when Europe was in a heavy balkanized roaming/nomadic tribes they had better standards and life quality.

>I think you mean black leaders who were able to keep their country from having their mineral rights exploited by post-colonial institutions, and who were able to maintain native governance over their affairs.

This is also wrong in the context of Botswanna. Their government relied heavily on connecting to the international community and were allowed due to their rare mineral mines. Guess who organized all of it - Hint: It wasn't Botswanna.
It was the people who wanted to take advantage of botswanna
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>>492915
>>492914
Also, on the Botswanna affair, let me actually further cite my evidence to my claims, something you refuse to do.

Interview with Mr James Campbell, Managing Director, Botswana Diamonds

That's a yikes from me, lad.

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>>492794
Can the UK not afford a power washer?

Macaroni (Mobile) !RevGiOKgRo (ID: 027fce)Country code: pittsburgh.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492918

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>>492907
He's trying, but not at what you think he is.
He's a chud; the point of any of these arguments is not to test theories or check knowledge, not to come to testable notions and reasoned conclusions. It's to use rhetoric and showmanship to create the appearance of being right.
There is no quest for truth here. Only the quest for dominating conversation on a mongolian snake enthusiast forum, so as to bolster his ego; that of a man ignorant and scared of a complex world, resentful of and estranged from others, and yet so paradoxically diminished as to put his faith into another ethnicity's racist narratives and hopeful that he'll be favored as a 'good one'.
Play with him if you wish, but remain aware that nobody is coming out of this convinced differently. Only good faith could do that, and anything with him will be bankrupt of that.

Anonymous (ID: 6607f6)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492921

>>492915
Before the early modern period, one of the primary differences between Europe and Africa was how labor and land were managed, not so much quality of life.

In Africa, land was far more abundant and the population more spread out. Land itself could not command the same sort of prices and rents that a European land owner could demand.

Under these conditions, you get less institutional centralization and less competition between centralized institutions of the sort that Europe later saw. This means there is lower incentive (indeed a lower overall need) to research labor-saving innovations because such innovations did not confer obvious survival benefits to their creators in such an environment.

It wasn't until Europe industrialized that this would result in a major divergence in quality of life.

>This is also wrong in the context of Botswanna.


No. It is not. Botswana was able to maintain native democratic self-government for a duration that was quite remarkable compared to many colonized countries at the time. This played a major role in the country being able to function after independence.
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Mythix (pchans police)!wG1CV58ydQ (ID: c3e638)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  492923

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>>492918
Would you say he is a right wing destiny?

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>>492918
You've summed up his existence quite eloquently. These motivations are something I really need to keep in mind when talking to quite a few people here.

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>>492921
This sounds like a lot of "It's the lands fault not theirs!" ignoring the fact that Africa is one of the most nutrient ABUNDANT continents in the world. They have amazing coasts exploding with food and an insane amount of resources inland. They have great jungles, forests, plains, deserts, and an extremely high diversity of minerals available that would facilitate a possible surgence of agricultural and societal permanence if they took advantage of it.

Do you want to address why their population was so sparce and spread out? Do you know the high amount of diseases they were inflicted with because of cannibalism and unsanitary practices like the belief of stimulating milk production by massaging bovine vaginas with their face?

Not only that, the constant wars that would occur. Not even alone against separate tribes! There would be constant historical accounts of several tribes constantly sacrificing their own for food or due to disease that triggered their beliefs. They even created an entire belief system based on this, something called voodoo.
This is still practiced there today!
Did you know, just recently they had to make statements of the extremely high return of child sacrifice in modern ethnically african communities in the renewed practice of voodoo.

Please, if you're going to blame it on geographical or sociological reasons, give insight as to why those outcomes occurred. Because for all potential purposes for Africa, it should have been a high-tech metropolis beyond anything we've seen a whole millennia ago.
The reason why it didn't is because shit's fucked yo.

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>>492918
>>492925
You understand changing the direction of your replies to attacks on character or on the individual is a blatant admittance of lack of standing in your argument?
I've not attacked you boys once here. I've stated the downfall of your education on these matters, rebutted your claims with evidence, and constantly pointed out the unsupported flawed claims you've been making.

The fact you must take this turn in your arguments really shows the standard of scientific and historical evidence that you hold dear. That simple attacks on character are more powerful and telling than well supported and established accounts of history.
Disappointing.

Anonymous (ID: 6607f6)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492929

>>492927
Resource abundance doesn't lead to industrialization or global empire. China had abundant resources but we didn't see them leaving Asia to colonize the Americas or Europe or Africa.

It is about incentives, not resources. It is because Africa was so abundant in resources that labor-saving innovations were not required. Labor-saving innovations require a population that is faced with just enough scarcity to make them necessary, but not so much overall scarcity that centralized society becomes impossible.

In this regard, Western Europe sat in something of a goldilocks zone. People who think the mere presence of resources is enough to warrant their extraction and use do not understand how and why centralized, specialized societies develop.

Anonymous (ID: 6607f6)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492930

>>492928
Your head really spends a lot of time up your own ass, doesn't it?

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>>492929
>doesn't lead to industrialization or global empire
Why couldn't Africans incentivize? I'd argue it's less on them already having acquired enough resources abundantly (a common fed lie about them not needing industrialization) and more towards a lack of understanding or cooperation on how to.
The fact of the matter is all the accounts of their state of living doesn't line up logically with a state of abundance.
People were suffering heavily of Kuru due to cannibalism. They were suffering of extreme level of exposure related disease like Malaria. They even developed genetic adaptation (sickle cell disease) in response to the high viral loads they consistently were under!

So how are you able to spit this type of world view towards them when there's simply no evidence of them living abundantly. But rather, savagely in order to merely survive?
It doesn't make any sense.
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Toiletchan (ID: 408464)Country code: templeos.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492932

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>>492930
Case in point.

Anonymous (ID: 6607f6)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492934

>>492931
>Why couldn't Africans incentivize?

They did. There were a number of urbanized areas in Africa even then. My people come from one of them and still live there today. But it wasn't as widespread a phenomenon as in Europe because, as I said, it didn't need to be. Why invent a steam engine if, at the time, you don't need a steam engine?

>no evidence of them living abundantly


That's also not true. There were insanely wealthy sub-Saharan Africans even back then.

Toiletchan (ID: 408464)Country code: templeos.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492935

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>>492934
>They did. There were a number of urbanized areas in Africa even then.
Which one. I bet you anything I can find who came over to allow that to happen.
Historical spoiler: It wasn't the natives.

>That's also not true. There were insanely wealthy sub-Saharan Africans even back then.

What a shame there's no evidence in any way indicating that. In fact, there's a truck load on the contrary.

It's the african copium for me. Sorry bud, your people were pretty shit. You don't have to follow in their footsteps. I admit the failures of my race too. Perhaps show a little bit of humility, friend.
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Toiletchan (ID: 408464)Country code: templeos.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492939

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I can provide mountains of evidence and Africa-Anon will ignore all of it as he digs deeper and deeper to find some foothold of a historically supported argument. Instead he will lash out, along with other users, at the poster rather than confront the established evidence before them.
At what point does piling and surmounting evidence finally topple upon them? You can't sweep it all under the rug forever.

I guess it's true, it's easier to just not look at the evidence, plug your ears, and say wah wah in some universe, in some dimension, in some place I am right! Hah got em :)

Anonymous (ID: 6607f6)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492940

>>492935
>I can find who came over

Believe it or not, Africans have been fully capable of creating large population centers by themselves.

>no evidence


It takes two seconds to look up Mansa Musa. And he's not even the only one.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 8f2518)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  492942

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>>492918
>on a mongolian snake enthusiast forum

Toiletchan (ID: 408464)Country code: templeos.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492944

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>>492940
So firstly, once again; Baseless claims.

>Mansa Musa

Ah the old 'we wuz kangs' argument as they steal other peoples religion and culture and claim it as their own.
I'm guessing since you brought him up you don't understand the history of the Mali-Spain diaspora and how the context of that occurring so recently being in 1324 relied less so on native development but rather something more akin to warlords we see today.

Let me guess, next you're going to say Egyptians wuz afrikkanz too huh. We wuz pharaohs n shiiet?
Nah you were dickwashers and starving diseased warlords. It's even in your genetic code as an example of all the shit they suffered due to their own negligence. Embarrassing.

I mean, I harp on my own Native people all the time, but I couldn't imagine the level of copium needed to ignore all the African native failure.

Anonymous (ID: 6607f6)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492946

>>492944
I'll talk to you again when you're ready to speak in English and not in memes. None of this is in good faith.

When did I mention Egypt?
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Anonymous (ID: 6607f6)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492948

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So on one hand we've got Jigs, the Nietzschean disciple who has utterly foresworn morality, and on the other we have Toilet, that glowing paragon of "Christian morality."

Not a very good cross section of Ponychan whiteness. This thread deserves better.

Toiletchan (ID: 408464)Country code: templeos.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492950

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>>492946
Well all the facts have already been laid out. Not much more I can provide to you other than lip service as this point.
Sorry your people allowed for you to have no argument.

>>492948
There's nothing anti-christian about providing contextual and historical facts in the manner that I have done.
Everything I have provided in this argument is based on citation-able historical accounts and context. I've gone out of my way to bend myself to his provided lists and arguments, slowly and surely providing evidence that show them being flawed.

Being a Christian doesn't mean allowing people to walk all over you and established history. Sorry, revisionists. You can't pull the "christ-like" card here as a substitute foundation.

It's over.

Anonymous (ID: 6607f6)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492953

>>492950
What "facts"?

Being honest about failures is one thing. I've never shied away from that.

Reviving all the tired tropes of how "Africans have only ever built mud huts" when abundant evidence exists to the contrary, is quite another.

If you have lived your whole life with hate for your own people, then go find a therapist. Don't put down others because of something you need to work on.
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Jiggle!Dick2STbYY (ID: 7e8b2b)Country code: bug.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492955

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>>492948
I'm more of a Heismanite.

Anonymous (ID: 6607f6)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492956

>>492955
Well whatever you are, you're easier to talk to at least. You stick right to the point, and you're not buried beneath fifty layers of irony.

Toiletchan (ID: 408464)Country code: templeos.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492959

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>>492953
My guy, do I need to start sending you scholarly cited Hardvard and Princeton studies outlining the historical accounts of the claims I'm making? Like, how far must I go to prove the legitimacy of my claims while you provide none.

The facts are this: There are little to no evidence of classical or ancient abundance towards "African" ethnic natives. Rather, all the data seems to point of outsiders immigrating to the area to use the resources available and provide the evolution of technology that appeared during their stages of societal development. All cases of 'abundance' are steeped in other cultures; typically islamic or arabic in nature. Beyond that towards modern (~1,000 years recent) is mostly due to spain, french, or European influence.
There is, unfortunately, a mountain of evidence against any claims of resource utilization or life style abundance among native populations that have occurred organically in any sense. Almost all instances have occurred due to influences of already established (and much younger in relation to the african) societies.

Anonymous (ID: 6607f6)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492961

>>492959
It takes five minutes to find contradictions of almost everything you've said in this thread.

You have such a hatred of Africa and Africans (and such a sycophantic love of white people) that you can't bring yourself to admit that maybe Africa is more complicated than your memes. Always has been and always will be.

Jiggle!Dick2STbYY (ID: 7e8b2b)Country code: bug.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492964

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Anonymous (ID: 6607f6)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492967

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My man graduated from the University of HARDvard's College of Memeology with a minor in Divinity, but he's still operating on stale, 19th century understandings of Africa.

Toiletchan (ID: 408464)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  492971

>>492961
The cope is unreal. I’m sorry you are this deep into a delusion. Attacks on those that oppose your fantasy world won’t stop historical facts. It’s a tragedy you couldn’t provide any of substance.
There’s nothing more here for us to discuss if you’re going to take the immature way out and bring in personal beliefs into a discussion that was based on tangible events and measurable organic progress.

I can see you are no different than your ancestors.

Anonymous (ID: 6607f6)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492977

>>492964
However wild your conclusions can be sometimes, I never once got the impression that you ignore what the other person is saying in favor of a meme-tier, shit-level analysis. You may end up disagreeing intensely with the other person, but your reading of them is always honest and fair.

Between this memey "Christian" moralist and a man who polite society would regard as pretty brutal, but fair in his readings of the other person, I'll take the latter.

Anonymous (ID: 6607f6)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  492980

>>492971
If you can't acknowledge global pre-modern living standards and the causes of the Great Divergence, you have no place in this discussion.

My immediate ancestors went to medical school. Yours, presumably, are drunk on a reservation somewhere. Fix your own conditions before lecturing the world.

Jiggle!Dick2STbYY (ID: 7e8b2b)Country code: bug.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  493033

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>>492977
You're all owed a fair reading.

If someone ignores me then I ignore their children's graves.
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Macaroni (Mobile) !RevGiOKgRo (ID: 027fce)Country code: pittsburgh.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  493173

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>>492967
Your man operates on those mummified models because, for him, it's part of an emotionally gratifying narrative of a world where good guys and bad guys are rewarded and punished by possession of unchanging and inherent virtues, and in which seeming disturbances of this order must be the happening due to conspiracies of villainous actors or their unwitting pawns.
Hence Africa as an exploited continent must just have bad people, and Europe as a developed continent must just have good people, and those speaking a more complex picture must either be bad but clever people, or foolish people puppeteered by the former.
The strength of his beliefs are not in the beliefs themselves, but in his emotions and demons. You won't "win" his arguments on terms of evidence or consistency, terms whose names he himself will only ever invoke like a magic word to utter when he wants to look smart, but rather on terms of humiliation and embarrassment.
His true game is about believing he is a strong alpha male in a world that should cater to him; if you must fight, then deny him this.

Czarry (ID: 408464)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  493174

This thread is a train wreck of people.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 01395c)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  493180

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>>493174
Its just about historical buildings is all.

Czarry (ID: 408464)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  493181

>>493180
Where’s my historical building? Completely sexist!

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 01395c)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  493184

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>>493181
You need to make history first.
It'll be assigned postmortem.

Czarry (ID: 408464)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  493185

>>493184
I’ll make history by being the first women to live to 100 with 100 chickens 🐓

Macaroni (Mobile) !RevGiOKgRo (ID: 027fce)Country code: pittsburgh.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  493186

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>>493181
I mean if the name is any indication, maybe the winter palace?

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 01395c)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  493187

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>>493185
I'll bet you wouldnt be the first to do that tbh.

Czarry (ID: 408464)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  493189

>>493187
Wow dude. Just fucking crushing my dreams like it’s giving you some type of serotonin

>>493186
I like the colors of that building
It’s pretty :0

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 01395c)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  493192

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>>493189
Its not my fault, im just being realistic about it.

Czarry (ID: 408464)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  493195

>>493192
I’m realistic in person to crush my dreams all the time. I like to dream on here to pretend things will happen ;-;

This thread SUCKS

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 01395c)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  493198

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>>493195
I guess you just need to dream bigger.

Czarry (ID: 408464)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  493199

>>493198
Inspiring. I’ll take this to heart

Maybe Ika (ID: 6b16f2)Country code: mx, country type: geoip, valid: 1  493206

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>>492948
There's nothing more christian than bashing on non white cultures tho.

Macaroni (Mobile) !RevGiOKgRo (ID: 027fce)Country code: pittsburgh.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  493208

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>>493189
Interior is pretty extravagant too, if you like that.

Czarry (ID: 408464)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  493210

>>493208
Hmmm expected it to be a big bigger and hollow for some reason. Still pretty tho

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 01395c)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  493216

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>>493199
Welcome to the first day of the rest of your life.

>>493206
Isnt the point of Christianity to get into it late in life, ignore what the chruch preaches, and twist the words of the bible quoted out of context to confirm all your pre conceived notions and claim moral superiority tho?
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Maybe Ika (ID: 6b16f2)Country code: mx, country type: geoip, valid: 1  493217

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>>493216
Yup, and bashing on other cultures helps as all people want to get out of it is to keep feeding their unjustified superiority complex.

Czarry (ID: 408464)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  493218

>>493216
Nah I’ll take a refund. This thread is taking a turn where I don’t want to make fool of myself like that other thread I was in
That is my inspired dream right now
Ciao

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 01395c)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  493220

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>>493217
I'm pretty positive that if Jesus were alive today he would be a trans bashing white supremacist who hurts people for fun.
I mean, its right there in the bible.
Idk how you can hear the story of jesus and get anything other than that. Washing peoples feet and sitting with lepers, i mean, that was basically just the ancient version of Jackass: The movie.
Did it to fuck with the Roman guards and shit haha, cucks.

Maroon Auburn!QEUQfdPtTM (ID: ad562f)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  493224

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>>493220

Jesus hates figs not fags

Jiggle!Dick2STbYY (ID: 7e8b2b)Country code: bug.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  493247

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>>493217
Other cultures, like american ones.

Chappie!Ep8pui8Vw2 (ID: bc9552)Country code: windows9x.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  493250

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It looks very nice.

Jiggle!Dick2STbYY (ID: 7e8b2b)Country code: bug.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  493253

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>>493173
"It happened because it happened" is unassuming causality, not a value assignment.
"These people are exploiters" is a value judgment. It requires more assumptions to be believed: that there is such a thing as exploitation, which necessitates that exploiters be "bad" and the exploited be "good."
One should default to the lighter, not heavier, assumption.

Coloring things with grudges for centuries onward clouds one's vision.

Anonymous (ID: 6d54c4)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  493405

>>493253
It's not like value judgements have no place whatsoever in any analysis of this history.

Jiggle!Dick2STbYY (ID: 7e8b2b)Country code: bug.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  493581

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>>493405
>inform value-judgments with truth statements
>derive truth-statements from history
>inform history from presupposed value-judgments

<inform value-judgments from value-judgments


This could be a problem.


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