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Kyle Rittenhouse released after posting $2 million bail Chain!Wall.AT/L2 (ID: 16bfc8)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid:   447098[View All]

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!GiLgameShI (ID: 29777e)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  447976

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>>447973
Vaush "child porn is a victimless crime" is really someone that argues in good faith, eh?

!smiles.Drs (ID: c043d8)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  447977

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>>447973
Vaush is actually ridiculous and has argued that in communism CP would be fine.
It's capitalism that makes CP bad.

I mean it's fair to take a shot at the fact that you watch Vaush.
If I told you that I watched Count Dankula for my political opinions you would take shots at me probably. lol

(ID: 48d756)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  447978

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>>447964
>Add that in and I feel like everyone just prescribes their own feelings about the riots onto the motivations of Rittenhouse.
most likely

>Most people I'd assume who would be getting bail posted wouldn't have serious enough of crimes and not very long sentences or fines, which would just go way up when trying to dodge out of them.

I'm not sure. Take Rittenhouse as an example, since he was eligible for bail. If he gets convicted of all charges, that could be decades, right? What's an extra year or two for skipping out when you're looking at decades behind bars? And even if he did skip out, the likelihood of him being caught is practically guaranteed. It's just a really weird negative incentive in my opinion. i.e. If you think you're innocent, then it doesn't incentivize anything, and if you think you're guilty, it isn't a deterrent.

>>447976
>>447977
to be fair, maybe it's just for entertainment purposes

Chain!Wall.AT/L2 (ID: 16bfc8)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  447979

>>447905
>I'm even giving the benefit of the doubt and saying, yeah it was in self defense, so i would lower the charges to manslaughter
But doesn't self-defense negate a charge of manslaughter as well? It seems that the equivalent of manslaughter in Wisconsin ("second-degree intentional homicide") applies in the case of an unreasonable belief that deadly force.

https://law.justia.com/codes/wisconsin/2014/chapter-939/section-939.48
https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/940/

!smiles.Drs (ID: c043d8)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  447980

>>447978
I would hope so.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 6ec0f1)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  447983

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>>447979
I didnt mean legally.
He still shot someone in the process of committing crimes. If someone is committing a crime and shoots someone to preserve their own life, it can be views as self defense, but dosnt absolve them.

(ID: 48d756)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  447985

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>>447983 "felony murder" is a bogus crime

you could just as easily say "the guy who assaulted Rittenhouse who didn't get killed (despite being a felony) should be charged with both murders because his assault was what led Rittenhouse to fear for his life and kill/shoot the others"

or "the guy who fired the first shot should be charged with.... for the same reasons"
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vynn (ID: e4897d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  447987

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>>447977
I've seen no such argument.

Taking the other argument that Gilgamesh posted as an example is definitely bad faith, though. It was a stupid-ass argument to make, and he shouldn't have gone that route, but that was definitely meant to be anti-child labor.


>>447978
>And even if he did skip out, the likelihood of him being caught is practically guaranteed.
I think in the current era, esp with all the crazy surveillance we have going on, this is probably true of most people regardless.

>If you think you're innocent, then it doesn't incentivize anything

I'd think most people who think they're innocent would want to legally clear their name, so I'm not sure how much incentive is even needed.

>and if you think you're guilty, it isn't a deterrent.

Mn, probably not, but then it's just back to the unfairness factor, where if you're poor or don't have a super national case with plenty of people willing to give you money, then you're SOL comparatively.

I really should look into how other countries handle it more though, since they have to solve the same problem of ensuring people come back, but not being able to relying on cash the same way.

Chain!Wall.AT/L2 (ID: 16bfc8)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  447988

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>>447983
>If someone is committing a crime and shoots someone to preserve their own life, it can be views as self defense, but dosnt absolve them.
OK, but that doesn't justify the bogus murder charges that the DA filed against Kyle.

>He still shot someone in the process of committing crimes.

What crimes was he in the process of committing when he shot the three men? There's an argument that he was unlawfully in possession of a firearm (the text of the law is a bit unclear). But that's just a minor misdemeanor.

!GiLgameShI (ID: 29777e)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  447989

>>447987
>but that was definitely meant to be anti-child labor.
>"Because child labor happens in Africa, exploiting kids sexually in America is fine."
How the flying fuck is this logically consistent with what you said?

(ID: 48d756)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  447991

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>>447987 yeah, pretty much.
I think perhaps the biggest problem is the backlogged legal system. If the wait times weren't months/years, then it really wouldn't matter as much.

!GiLgameShI (ID: 29777e)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  447992

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>>447987
>"He's not really a pedo, bros, because he supports my view points."

vynn (ID: e4897d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  447994

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>>447991
Yeah, that's definitely an issue. Have no idea what the solution is, either. And laws are only gonna get more and more complex, I feel, just exacerbating it all.

I mean even your normal case is probably going to take months anyway just for investigations to happen, so there's still going to be a wait no matter how much the backlog is unloaded.

!KadyLuvzOQ (ID: 29bbea)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  448004

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>>447992
Whoever wrote that screencaps, is a pedophile with extra liberal justification for it

"Let's use big words to make anything I say seem legitimate"!

Smiles (ID: 5c830b)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  448005

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>>447987
Hey there, had to move to phone.
I mean in the picture Gilgamesh posted here >>447992
It’s pretty clear that he has some questionable views regarding pedophillia and CP.
and I know there is other stuff out there, but can’t be bothered looking for it.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 6ec0f1)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  448006

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>>447985
I agree the charges should be reduced, i said it many times itt.
>>447988
See above
>What crimes was he in the process of committing when he shot the three men?
He straw purchased a firearm, which is a felony, then he carried the illegally obtained rifle loaded as a minor.

(ID: 48d756)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  448010

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>>448006 I don't mean just in this case. I mean in general.

Smiles (ID: 5c830b)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  448011

>>448004
Wow we actually agree.

vynn (ID: e4897d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  448014

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>>448005
Never even seen it before, but googling it, people are saying he meant it should be lowered to 16 like what it currently is in the UK or something? Idk

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 6ec0f1)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  448015

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>>448010
I dont have a general opinion on the existence of that law.
I dont know enough about the general charge of "felony murder" to say.

(ID: 48d756)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  448019

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>>448015 The most common example, is when someone is committing a felony, and then a cop comes and shoots the wrong person on accident, and the person committing the crime gets charged with murder. Aside from the lack of motivation, and the lack of even negligence, it's penalizing someone for someone else's incompetence.

or, another common example, 3 burglars get caught in the act. cops come and shoot/kill one of them. the other two get charged with murder.
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Smiles (ID: 5c830b)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  448022

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>>448014
Right, but he doesn’t say that. And I recall seeing more from that Cap and it didn’t really get any better.
He seems to conflate children agency with sexual maturity more than one. He’s gotten so much flack for those sorts of comments that he’s attempted to walk it back saying that he doesn’t support it, but it’s all about labor.
Putting it equal to child laborers in India.
Like they’re both bad, but they aren’t comparable.

vynn (ID: e4897d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  448035

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>>448022
>Putting it equal to child laborers in India.
>Like they’re both bad, but they aren’t comparable.
I agree with this, I still think it's a stupid ass argument to make. I genuinely think at least in that situation he was just trying to use his "edgyness" to make a comparison just to shock the guy he was debating into agreeing. That kinda shit is why a ton of other lefties disagree with him.

I understand the point he was going for. "How can you be against the exploitation of children of children for porn, but be perfectly okay with the exploitation of children for mining cobalt or whatever on the other side of the planet?! If you're okay with one you have to be okay with the other!!"

But it's like... stupid and awful as fuck.

Smiles (ID: 5c830b)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  448046

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>>448035
You’re admittedly giving him a greater benefit of the doubt than I am.
I’ve listened to a number of his takes and it’s honestly just made me more and more jaded towards him.

vynn (ID: e4897d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  448065

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>>448046
Probably to be expected at least. You're predisposed to be against him based on other things he's said, I'm predisposed the other way since I'm generally in favor.

I dunno. I could be way off, cause I don't want to condone that sort of thing, but at least from my perspective a way to just easily dismiss everything. Like "heh we can just dismiss literally anything he says based on this out of context flip, gottem!"

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 4fd1e6)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  448083

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>>448019
I guess i did know what that was, but didnt know the name.
Sounds like the kind of charge that is only brought to be dropped in a plea bargain.

Smiles (ID: 5c830b)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  448095

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>>448065
I’m not trying to dismiss everything he says - I still periodically click his videos - but I was simply trying to share why people might jab at you for that.

I’m sure you understand where I’m coming from.

Also I do like destiny. I dislike a lot of what he says, but even with that in mind he’s much more reasonable and digestible.

Mythix (pchans police)!wG1CV58ydQ (ID: 02dab2)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  448121

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>>448095
Destiny is one of the biggest cunts on YouTube.

Smiles (ID: 5c830b)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  448126

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>>448121
Huge Cunt.
Half his shit is stupid.
Still better than Vaush. IMO

Mythix (pchans police)!wG1CV58ydQ (ID: 02dab2)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  448137

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>>448126
I haven’t seen any of Vaushes videos but you seen Destiny’s argument with Digibro? That was halarious.

(ID: 0857cc)Country code: amsterdam.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  448139

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>>448121
Only thing I know about Destiny is that interview he did with JonTron that made everyone think JonTron was racist, and from watching that, I agree with this assessment.

He and KeemStar are trash fires from what I've seen.
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vynn (ID: e4897d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  448142

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>>448095
I've never watched Destiny tbh

I don't mind disagreeing, but I legit find it offensive to be like "heh of COURSE vynn would like a pedofile"

Seriously, fuck off with that tyvm

!GiLgameShI (ID: 257ab3)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  448148

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>>448142
If you literally stop responding to an argument because shitposting about a pedo e-celebrity being a pedo, how does that offend you when you've literally called people nazis for milquetoast right wing policies?

Like how does calling Vaush a pedo intrinsically hurt you, that I must specify isn't Vaush.
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Smiles (ID: 5c830b)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  448159

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>>448137
I’m not a fan of destiny I just like watching the videos, I feel like I should specify that.
Also no I dodged that shit like the plague. Why do I wanna watch a waifu warrior argue with a politic Sperg.
I can just come here for that.

>>448142
I understand the discontent, but this is a shitposting board to be fair. Lol

vynn (ID: e4897d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  448166

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>>448159
I've never been big on shitposting to begin with tbqh

Chain!Wall.AT/L2 (ID: 16bfc8)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  448172

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vynn (ID: 7aaa01)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  448178

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>>448172
Aren't both sides being hypocritical, though?

Chain!Wall.AT/L2 (ID: 16bfc8)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  448180

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>>448178
There are many hypocrites on both sides of the aisle.

Pic unrelated.

vynn (ID: 7aaa01)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  448182

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>>448180
What the heck am I looking at?!

Chain!Wall.AT/L2 (ID: 16bfc8)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  448183

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>>448182
A Coronavirus particle wearing MAGA hats.

!smiles.Drs (ID: c043d8)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  448196

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>>448166
That's fine.
Honest question, didn't you call me a Nazi or some sort of Alt-Right Shitlord in the past? I could've swore you did, and I don't see how that's better than the Vaush pedo thing.

vynn (ID: 7aaa01)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  448216

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>>448183
I guess I don't get it...


>>448196
Um. I don't think so? That doesn't sound like something I'd say?

I mean I think Trump himself has very fashy tendencies, and I have reasonings for it, but I don't think you are at all.

!FGiFL0Ecls (ID: a3c593)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  448221

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>>448121
You call everyone a cunt that isn't a Nazi, pedophile, alcoholic, retard, etc

Chain!Wall.AT/L2 (ID: 16bfc8)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  448222

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>>448216
>I guess I don't get it...
See >>448180:
>Pic unrelated.
The pic is just a reflection of Trumpers' poor mask-wearing and Trump's mishaps w.r.t. the Chinese Virus. It's not related to the thread at all.

Mythix (pchans police)!wG1CV58ydQ (ID: 87c7f6)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  448224

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!smiles.Drs (ID: c043d8)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  448247

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>>448216
If you say so, maybe I'm mixing you up with someone else.
I appreciate you not thinking of me that way.

Anonymous (ID: a2036d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  448666

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>>447379
I'm late to this thread and this is gonna be long but it's important.

I watched the video footage people who were there that night filmed instead of watching talking heads describe it.

>Be Kyle


>Go to help stop people from burning down your job that's a 10 minute drive from your house.

>Upon arrival, friend gives you a weapon just in case rioters want to bash your skull in or shoot you.
>Be shown on video giving medical aid and helping peaceful protesters throughout the night
>Get separated from your group and end up at a gas station down the street

>rioters light a dumpster on fire dangerously close to the gas station


>you run a fire extinguisher to someone and they put the fire out


>The mob of rioters thinks its you who put the fire out and turns on you. Throwing things at you and calling you names.


>You follow the law and run for it.


>They pursue you.Still throwing things at you.


>A shirtless guy catches up to you in a car dealership parking lot and an argument is started.


>Another guy in the back fires a shot.


>Shirtless guy reaches for your gun.


>You fire several rounds in return.


>Shirtless man who is on video earlier that evening running up to people and saying "shoot me n-word" is on the ground.


>You're 17 and probably never shot someone before so you're in shock. You walk around to the front and just stand there for a second before calling a friend and telling them what happened.


>You then realize there's still an angry mob that's probably even angrier so you continue running.


>Now the mob is chasing you while still throwing shit at you and one can clearly being heard saying "Get his ass. Get him!"


>You trip.


>While sitting up one guy runs up and tries to jump kick you in the head. He misses and hits your neck. Then he tries to grab your gun.


>You shoot him because you know if he gets your gun you're dead.


>Another person comes up and hits you in the head with a skateboard.


>They try to grab your gun


>You shoot them too.


>Third person runs up to you with a handgun drawn. You take aim. He freezes and puts his hands up.


>You hesitate. He drops his hands and charges you. He attempts to grab your gun while still pointing his at you.


>You fire and hit him in the arm.


>You get back up and run for it again. You try to surrender to police but in the confusion they tell you to GTFO the way.


>So you go home and surrender tomorrow.


Every single time Kyle fired was after three things. 1. He was already running away so he wasn't some magical threat that needed to be removed. 2.He was attacked they were throwing stuff at him the whole time, 3. Someone made physical contact as they tried to take his gun.

For anyone who thinks "But he shouldn't of had a gun that night", the third guy which I will refer to as bicep guy was talked to while he was in the hospital. He said his only regret wasn't emptying his magazine into Kyle.

I have no doubt in my mind they would of killed him for helping to put out their trash fire that could of blown up the gas station if they got it any closer.


This kid was vilified by the media much the same way Sandmann was. The media made it sound like he came from far away with a gun but he only lived 10 minutes away and the gun was given to him when he got there.

His friend was right to arm him and now his friend has also been arrested and charged with felonies.

The murder charges are blatantly false. This couldn't be a clearer case of self defense as he followed every law to the letter. He did not carry a gun across state lines, he did not shoot first, he did not intentionally provoke the assault on his person.

His personality or beliefs have no bearing on this case even though the mainstream media wishes you to think otherwise.

"But he shouldn't of had a gun it only escalated things!" If he didn't he'd be dead as the mob would still be angry he helped put out their dangerous dumpster fire.

"He shouldn't of been there!" Says who? I think he has just as much right as anyone to be there. Again, he wasn't armed until he got there and it makes sense for him to be there. Have you seen the photos of the aftermath? Looks like a fucking warzone.

"But insurance!" For many of these businesses the insurance company either doesn't pay enough out or finds a way to not pay at all. The rioters have caused hundreds of millions of dollars of damage. With mayors of these cities telling police to stand back and basically letting it happen it is no wonder that people are now arming themeselves to protect what's theirs.

"<Insert adhominem attack against me here>": This has no bearing on the video evidence of this case so I won't respond to it.
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ponyfaggots (ID: d2fb53)Country code: mlpchan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  448669

>>448666
If he had shot blacks do you think the police would have given him a job?

Chain!Wall.AT/L2 (ID: 16bfc8)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  448723

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>>448666
Nice trips!

Anonymous (ID: a2036d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  448749

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>>448723
Holy shit you're right!
What do I win?


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