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Finally. (ID: 4e95f4)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid:   391906

#Politics
This should be interesting.
I'm Suing the White House, CIA, and DOJ. Really.

This is what I was hoping to see, to be honest. Someone who actually can get something done for a change.

Also, a follow up.
The Case Against John Bolton & My Lawsuit Against the White House (LegalEagle's Law Review)
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Kabel on E621 GO - Lewdymon Edition (ID: 91819a)Country code: bug.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  391907

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Mewtwo's should become Californian KAREN'S /w huge breasts & go into Washington DC and sue 14yr old CHAD yankee boys for going into their caves + their 6Star EX Raids and throwing Premierballs into their bewbz

Mk17 (ID: 54e60a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  391910

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>>391906
Is he the same guy who watches courtroom scenes from stuff like the simpsons and talks about if they are accurate or not?

Ether way, fair enough. If he thinks he has a case, he can file the suite. He will also make a lot of youtube money in the meantime.

He has ~4 months to get it done, if he wants to actually effect anything.

Anonymous (ID: b5e43a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  391911

>>391906
>legaleagle
Eww.

(ID: 44ab31)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  391956

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>>391910
Yes, but he's a real practicing lawyer and is getting tired of all the bullshit.

The thing is this guy actually knows all the ins and outs of the legal system and isn't just some nobody setting things on fire and ranting about the government. He actually knows how to navigate the legal system.

(ID: 44ab31)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  391957

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>>391911
Sorry, sometimes you can't always just use guns to solve all your problems.

Mk17 (ID: 54e60a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  391959

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>>391956
Sure, but there is probably a little bit of a "this will get me some views" motivation to it.

He is probably being genuine, but a lot of lawyers probably feel the same, but wont do what he is doing, because they wouldn't make the money like him.

(ID: 44ab31)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  391964

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>>391959
The legal costs of suing the federal government are going to far outweigh the money he makes from YouTube videos. Like I said he's a practicing lawyer, YouTube isn't his job. He makes some side cash doing it, but it's not his primary source of income. Also, when it comes to these personal videos about the suit, he doesn't have sponsors like he usually does in his more casual fun videos.

This is a very personal thing for him, and if you want to see just how personal, check out this video here: American Carnage at Lafayette Square
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Mk17 (ID: 54e60a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  391965

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>>391964
I dont trust lawyers and i dont trust youtubers that use those poppy thumb nails where its them with some extreme reaction face with a colour silhouette behind them, and i dont trust people who cut in clips of themselves crying into videos.

So, this is a hard sell haha.

I did watch the whole thing, and i totally agree with his position about how trump pulled some dictator shit that day, and those people had the right to be there, and that the violence the police used was way over the top... but at the same time, he keeps stressing that the protesters were non violent, and makes it sound like nothing was going on, when like a day before the protesters literally lit that church and several other buildings on fire haha.

So, i guess my point is, i dont think this guy is practicing pure altruism, i think he is also taking the opportunity to advertise his youtube channel.
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Anonymous (ID: 6488ff)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  391966

>>391957
Nobody mentioned anything about guns, you snob.

(ID: c96fda)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  391969

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>legaleagle
to be fair, this guy does know his law pretty well

but steve lehto is the most god tier lawyer out of michigan that literally nobody here has likely heard of

thats how much of a hipster i really am!

(ID: 44ab31)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  391970

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>>391966
I checked his IP and he was the one talking about guns in the other thread.

You apparently on the other hand are the psudo-nazi that keeps acting like they know who I am for some reason.
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Mk17 (ID: 54e60a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  391972

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>>391966
>snob.
heyheyheyhey

Easy tiger, slow down a bit partner, we are all friends here. No need for the strong language.

Lets just all take a step back and relax.

My word.
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(ID: e8ab30)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  391974

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not surprised. he's a partisan in sheep's clothing.

(ID: 44ab31)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  391975

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>>391974
What do you mean by that?

(ID: e8ab30)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  391977

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>>391975 I watched his coverage of the impeachment. his arguments in favor of quid pro quo, i.e. the entire basis of the impeachment, were nonsensical. and his claim here that Trump didn't receive a "fair" trial in the Senate, and the implication that the trial in the House was fair, is laughable.

but hey, lawyers gonna lawyer. I don't hold it against him. but he isn't this paragon of virtue like some seem to think.
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(ID: c96fda)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  391982

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never understood the whole "i dont trust lawyers" thing

these people will fight tooth and nail to keep you out of a cage if need be

yet, prosecutor and LE trash will fight tooth and nail to ruin a life even if they have to lie about it to make it happen
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Mk17 (ID: e29fa7)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  391984

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>>391982
>these people will fight tooth and nail to keep you out of a cage if need be
Provided you have thousands of dollars to pay them.

Your realize they fight just as hard to put you in a cage too, right?

(ID: c96fda)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  391986

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>>391984
yeah, it's almost as if services cost money or something

>Your realize they fight just as hard to put you in a cage too, right?

no they dont
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Tracer Bullet (phone) (ID: 4306fd)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  391987

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>there's no difference between defense atterneys and prosecutors

(ID: c96fda)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  391988

yeah, they play different roles in the justice system

Mk17 (ID: e29fa7)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  391989

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>>391986
Well, you make it sound like they do it out of the kindness of their hearts.
>they fight tooth and nail for you!

They fight for their bank account. They would be on the other side trying to get you maximum time even if your innocent or all your shit in a divorce if thats what they were paid to do.

Which, is why i dont trust lawyers.

#notalllawyers

Sure, but also not all cops, and not all doctors, and not all anything ever, but enough of them, and from the lawyers i know, a pretty good amount, because a lawyers entire practice is to spin narratives, coercion, and manipulation. Its inherent to the job, and thus a quality inherent to the people who perform it.

I don't even trust my own lawyer haha.
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(ID: c96fda)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  391990

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>>391989
i actually know an attorney personally, so maybe i have bias?

i've spoken to him many times and he even agreed with me on asserting rights listed in the bill of rights

a pig or a prosecutor would do anything they can to squeeze a confession out of you

Mk17 (ID: e29fa7)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  391991

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>>391990
>i actually know an attorney personally
Is it moony?

Yeah, i have friends who are lawyers, i have my own lawyer, i dont trust lawyers.

Never mind this >>391987

Or the fact there are a ton of specialized rolls for lawyers, and your only talking about a specific type of defense attorneys, and just skipping the ones who get children taken away from parents and leave spouses penniless in a divorce to up their take.

There is a reason lawyers carry guns, in every jurisdiction, and its because at some point or another they end up ruining people lives.
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(ID: c96fda)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  391992

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>>391991
i am talking about criminal defense lawyers, yes

Mk17 (ID: e29fa7)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  391994

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>>391992
Right, which isn't lawyers its 1 type of lawyer.

Not to mention, what of the defense attorneys that fight to get murderers and rapists they know are guilty set free thus denying the family of the victims justice?

Are they also benevolent heros?
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(ID: c96fda)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  391995

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>>391994
their job is to prove their client is innocent beyond a reasonable doubt

if they have done that, they are innocent in the court of law

the jury makes the rulings at the end of day

the lawyer only defends their client
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⛵☎ (ID: e8ab30)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  391996

>>391994 they ensure that the accused person's rights are respected.

Tracer Bullet (phone) (ID: 4306fd)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  391998

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>>391995
No, it's the prosecutors job to prove that the defendant committed the crime without reasonable doubt.

The whole innocent until proven otherwise thing.

Mk17 (ID: e29fa7)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  391999

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>>391995
>their job is to prove their client is innocent beyond a reasonable doubt
Which they will attempt, even if they know full well they are guilty.
See >>391989
>because a lawyers entire practice is to spin narratives, coercion, and manipulation. Its inherent to the job, and thus a quality inherent to the people who perform it.

So manipulation of a jury to rule in their clients favor isnt always benevolent.

>>391996
And cops take oaths to uphold the constitution, whats your point?

(ID: c96fda)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  392001

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>>391998
that's true

i get that mixed up sometimes

thank you for the clarification

>>391999
they don't always know the truth of the matter involving their clients

they go by constitutional and legal law and thats how they apply it

>So manipulation of a jury to rule in their clients favor isnt always benevolent.

So manipulation of a jury to rule the defendant guilty so much so to the point it has sparked the innocence project which should be a national scandal

yeah these things happen

Mk17 (ID: e288c2)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  392004

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>>392001
>they go by constitutional and legal law and thats how they apply it
Oh yeah, right.
See >>391999
>And cops take oaths to uphold the constitution, whats your point?
And then
>So manipulation of a jury to rule the defendant guilty so much so to the point it has sparked the innocence project which should be a national scandal
Yup, and its lawyers who are doing it. Thats really more of a point in my favor.

>these things happen

Right, which is why i dont trust lawyers.
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(ID: c96fda)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  392008

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>>392004
>And cops take oaths to uphold the constitution, whats your point?
LOL... just fucking LOOOOL

>Yup, and its lawyers who are doing it. Thats really more of a point in my favor.

except it's not

it's prosecutors who lie and hide evidence to make the defendants case look worse to the jury

and then when the defendant decides to be a moron and talk to the pigs, the prosecutors use every single word to use against the defendant all while taking every single statement out of context to get a conviction

meanwhile, a lawyer wants to get their first to make sure their client shuts the fuck up

do i need to specify i am talking about criminal defense lawyers or are we on the same page?

kamela harris is a famous example of a scumbag prosecutor
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Mk17 (ID: e288c2)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  392011

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>>392008
>LOL... just fucking LOOOOL
Yeah, thats the point... lawyers "go by constitutional and legal law and thats how they apply it" as much as a cop does.
>except it's not [lawyers]
>it's prosecutors
Well, alright then.

⛵☎ (ID: e8ab30)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  392013

>>391999 the point is that it's better for ten guilty men to go free, than for one innocent man to suffer.

(ID: c96fda)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  392016

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>>392011
i thought we established i was talking about criminal defense lawyers

i know you can blanket lawyers under many things including a prosecutor

i digress at this point

Mk17 (ID: e288c2)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  392017

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>>392013
I never argued it isn't.

⛵☎ (ID: e8ab30)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  392020

>>392017 you asked me what the point was. That was the point.

Mk17 (ID: e288c2)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  392023

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>>392020
I guess i meant, how does that point relate to my argument?

Like, why are you making that point in response to what i said? I.e what is your point?

I assumed it wasn't a non sequitur.
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⛵☎ (ID: e8ab30)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  392031

>>392023 In responding to >>391994, preserving the rights of the accused, whether guilty or not in fact, is /more/ important than justice for victims' families. So yes, getting people off on technicalities is important because it prevents the state from trampling on the rights of the accused without pushback.

Mk17 (ID: e288c2)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  392036

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>>392031
I still dont understand how that pertains to my argument.

Im not arguing that lawyers aren't a necessary part of the justice system, im stating the reasons why i dont personally trust them.

⛵☎ (ID: e8ab30)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  392039

>>392036 I'm arguing against them not being 'benevolent heros' or that they are 'malicious villains' by contrast.

Mk17 (ID: e288c2)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  392050

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>>392039
Fair enough, but i never said that ether.

Mike said he doesn't get why anyone wouldn't trust a lawyer, because "all they do is fight for you tooth and nail to keep you out of a cage" implying that a lawyer is always benevolent to the individual; which he then narrowed down to only defense lawyers when it was pointed out that prosecutors are lawyers.
So I made the point that lawyers are only as benevolent as the side of them you find yourself on, so if for instance, you are the victim of a rapist that the defense lawyer successfully aquits because something was filed wrong, you are denied justice.
The rapist retains his technical rights, but you were still raped, and they avoided the consequences of their actions.
And again, thats just one type of lawyer.

Cops and lawyers do as their told, with the difference being many lawyers have profit insensitive beyond just salary. There is no good or bad, especially if they are doing their job correctly. But imo, it takes a type of person to do those jobs, that i dont inherently trust.
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⛵☎ (ID: e8ab30)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  392051

>>392050 fair enough

Anonymous (ID: 734e58)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  392176

defense lawyers are benevolent heroes. i'd rather fight tooth and nail to save a truly depraved pariah criminal than fight to help their victim. empathizing with the pitiful is easy, empathizing with the evil is hard

🦊!smiles.Drs (ID: 2e881d)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  392209

LegalEagle is a partisan in all of the worse ways.

Good luck to him I guess.

(ID: a85994)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  392288

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>>392209
I still don't know what you mean by that.

🦊!smiles.Drs (ID: 6f9c70)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  392289

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>>392288
The guy has literally bent himself in a pretzel in order to reach the conclusions he wanted to come to.
You can kinda just guess his positions on things without ever watching his videos.

(ID: a85994)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  392290

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>>392289
I've never seen him do anything like that. From what I can tell he doesn't even really have positions on things. Well up until recently, but that's because it got personal.
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🦊!smiles.Drs (ID: 2e881d)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  392293

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>>392290
I admittedly can't be bothered right now to go through his entire youtube and start rewatching videos.
The one that particularly sticks out in my mind is his Captain Marvel video where he tried to say that the deleted scene of her stealing the guys bike was self defense and that the trolls should just shut up.
I also remember him having some particular takes about the impeachment and whatnot that were uninspired, but I can't recall the specifics.

(ID: a85994)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  392295

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>>392293
>Captain Marvel video where he tried to say that the deleted scene of her stealing the guys bike was self defense and that the trolls should just shut up.

I.... don't think that's how that went. Legal Eagle doesn't try to tell people they are wrong. What he was doing here is showing how the law can be interpreted in situations that a layperson may not consider. I don't think he was trying to push any sort of narrative, he was simply using it as an example of how the law works in a way many people may not realize. That's what I got out of it anyway. I don't think he was particularly defending Captain Marvel's actions in the cut scene more than he was using the scene as a teaching tool to show how subjective the statutes of the law can actually be.

That was my take on it. When I watch it, it never feels like he actually takes a side in any of these things from a personal level. He's simply using it as a way of explaining how the law would work in any of these situations.

Anonymous (ID: b5e43a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  392297

>>392290
Between Captain Marvel and pretty much anything Trump related he covers, I'm not inclined to take him seriously.

Lawyer Explains Trump's Whistleblower Complaint & Legal Eagle's Bias - Viva Frei Vlawg

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>>392295
While I understand where you're coming from there has been plenty of people/lawyers that sat down and describe why his points being made are suspect at best.

Also I just looked up the Captain Marvel vid of his. Literally 45 Seconds in:
"Do you believe that the men who are complaining about Captain Marvel again are wrong about the law?"

That kinda goes to my whole "that the trolls should just shut up" comment.

Anonymous (ID: 791b92)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  393086



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