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Maroon Auburn!QEUQfdPtTM (ID: 07265a)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid:   359282[View All]

#Politics
And Joe Biden IS STILL GOING TO GET THE NOMINATION

American politics tickles my funny bone
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>>359651
ok, I'm bored now

>Give an example of something "good" that Trump has done as president, which you support.

wasn't there some criminal justice reform that was supposedly a step in the right direction?

>>359653
>Bernie said the election is rigged against him.
I guarantee you're misrepresenting the course of events

!XSAILBoatg (ID: 569c15)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  359656

>>359654
1) We know these people exist. (You can see some of them in the videos I linked)
2) The amount is unknown.
3) These people are ultra-far left.
4) Far-left Democrats are more likely to vote in the primaries than more moderate Democrats.
5) It can be assumed, that if Bernie calls them out, they will be pissed off.
6) He's got stiff competition, so a gain or loss of just a few points could mean the difference between winning and losing.

pop quiz: Does Bernie stand to gain or lose delegates in the primaries by calling out the crazies?

just calling it like I see it.

>>359655
>wasn't there some criminal justice reform that was supposedly a step in the right direction?
fair enough.
>>Bernie said the election is rigged against him.
>I guarantee you're misrepresenting the course of events
abbreviated, but that's the gist of it.

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>>359653
>>wacko states

I remember the Siege of Waco by the Clintons.

!XSAILBoatg (ID: 569c15)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  359658

>>359657 I only remember the aftermath

Mk17(phone)!!Trixie (ID: 4e04a3)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  359660

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>>359656
>1) We know these people exist. (You can see some of them in the videos I linked)
>2) The amount is unknown.
>3) These people are ultra-far right.
>4) Far-right Republicans are more likely to vote in the primaries than more moderate Republicans.
>5) It can be assumed, that if Trump calls them out, they will be pissed off.
>6) He's got stiff competition, so a gain or loss of just a few points could mean the difference between winning and losing.

Wow, it was really easy to turn that argument into the same argument leftists use against Trump when his supporters do/say something stupid, and they want to paint everyone on that side as supportive.

Wherever dude, i see you as a hypocrite in this instance, and you haven't said anything to change my mind, so here we are.
Honestly, the only difference i see in your stances, and the stances of what you might call a "libtard" is which propaganda you've decided to submerge yourself in. The arguments are interchangeable by just plugging in a few words.

>but trump condemned it that one time.

Because he was forced to and Bernie hasent been. They would both have the same reaction under the same conditions, but bernie, by happenstance, has different conditions, so he is using different tactics. If you cant understand that idk what to say.
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!XSAILBoatg (ID: 569c15)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  359662

>>359660 It's a good thing that I'm not painting everyone on that side then... Have you ever heard of all-or-nothing fallacy?

>Wherever dude, i see you as a hypocrite, and you haven't said anything to change my mind, so here we are.

Apparently not rolling over and taking it is your definition of being a hypocrite. glad to hear it.

>Honestly, the only difference i see in your stances, and the stances of what you might call a "libtard" is which propaganda you've decided to submerge yourself in. The arguments are interchangeable by just plugging in a few words.

You would have a point. Except that there's a condition for success, and that "win" condition for Bernie is clearly stated. All he has to do, to get an A+ with a gold star next to it, is denounce the crazies. But he hasn't, so here we are. What's that? Trump's done that countless times? but I'm the hypocrite. ok, guy.

>>but trump condemned it that one time.

>Because he was forced to and Bernie hasent been. They would both have the same reaction under the same conditions, but bernie, by happenstance, has different conditions, so he is using different tactics.
Oh, I can see he's using different tactics. And that's why I don't respect him. Best of luck to him in the general.

>If you cant understand that idk what to say.

I understand what you're saying. I disagree with it.

Mk17(phone)!!Trixie (ID: 4e04a3)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  359663

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>>359662
>All he has to do, to get an A+ with a gold star next to it, is denounce the crazies. But he hasn't, so here we are. What's that? Trump's done that countless times? but I'm the hypocrite. ok, guy.
>I understand what you're saying.

Obviously you dont, "guy".

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>>359660
>Because he was forced to and Bernie hasent been. They would both have the same reaction under the same conditions, but bernie, by happenstance, has different conditions, so he is using different tactics. If you cant understand that idk what to say.
I, Bernie Sanders, will welcome all support, preferably financial... and if those tankies need some help... they can borrow my old guillotine any time. The White House will know the color. RED.

!XSAILBoatg (ID: 569c15)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  359666

>>359663
>Obviously you dont, "guy".
>>359660
>but bernie, by happenstance, has different conditions

Yes, there's a name for that, and the condition is called - conveniently enough - being a Democrat. It's funny what you can get away with when you have that affliction.

I know this might come as a shock to you, but I care about the principles underlying the situation. Given the precedent, which the Dems themselves are responsible for, Bernie doesn't get a pass just because of the D next to his name.

vynn (ID: e661c3)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  359667

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>>359640
>Previously, I could say "I don't agree with his policies, but I respect him because X, Y, Z"
So you don't like his policies which means you won't vote for him and have a vested interest in getting others to not vote for him, but on top of that you now think he's a big stinky buttface so won't vote for him and still have a vested interest in getting others to not vote for him? Damn.

>he sort of lost his credibility by showing zero spine during the last election

What

>"I don't agree with his policies, but the Democrats done him dirty, so I can still root for him", but now he's losing that too

??

>And it's not like I want the Democratic party to consist of lunatics.

I honestly call into question what your measure of what makes one a lunatic or not.

>I mean, do you want him to lose?

Do you want him to lose?

>take your pick. there's the SJW rollover. there's the praise of communist regimes. there are the policies, themselves. there are the accusations, whether real or not. but #believewomen, so I guess Bernie's gotta go...

Yikes Bernie's done for.

Urda (ID: d6e43f)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  359668

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>>359667
Oh Wow

vynn (ID: e661c3)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  359669

Mk17(phone)!!Trixie (ID: 4e04a3)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  359670

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>>359665
Id vote for him if he said that, just to see how things go.

>>359666
Yeah, i agreed the media is bias to the DNC, but for some reason you're demanding a candidate needlessly react to what some extremist said, just to appease you, like your important at all.
It would be stupid for Bernie to make a controversy bigger than it needs to be, neither would trump. Esp when he already always says he is against it, and esp durring a primary where the media is bias against him.
But you're giving me this "Bernie just wont do it because he knows the majority of his support are tankies that want gulags, and he knows it will ruin him if he condems it because he will lose all his support" bullshit.

He is not doing it because he is smart enough to not willingly associate his name with those retards any more than it already it, and he is smart enough to know doing that just to cater to some political screamer and get an "A+" from some dude on the internet who would latch onto the next controversy reguardless would be mental.
You really think he gives a fuck what your kind thinks when your just going to start freaking out over the next thing anyway? No. No one fucking does.
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Urda (ID: d6e43f)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  359671

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>>359669
What I wrote

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Maroon Auburn!QEUQfdPtTM (ID: 07265a)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  359673

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>>359672

Someone fetch me a hammer, some glue and duct tape

Seems something has broke Mikie

Mk17(phone)!!Trixie (ID: 4e04a3)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  359677

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>>359673
The comma interests me the most, because i feel like it means there is supposed to be more.

!XSAILBoatg (ID: 569c15)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  359704

>>359667
>So you don't like his policies which means you won't vote for him and have a vested interest in getting others to not vote for him, but on top of that you now think he's a big stinky buttface so won't vote for him and still have a vested interest in getting others to not vote for him? Damn.
It's like you've never heard of the concept of bipartisanship, or reaching across the aisle to your political rivals. Again, do you want people who disagree with Bernie to also hate him? Like, does that help him somehow?

>he sort of lost his credibility by showing zero spine during the last election

primarily, rolling over and letting Hillary just take the primary, and then giving her his blessing for the pleasure.
and also, standing idly by while people commandeer his campaign rally, which looks great for a would-be leader of the free world

>>"I don't agree with his policies, but the Democrats done him dirty, so I can still root for him", but now he's losing that too

>??
As I said above, Bernie is now arguing against his own formerly held position, which is that the Dems stacked the deck against him, because Trump agreed with the position, and disagreeing with Trump is more important than pointing out the corruption within his own party. As they say, Trump could come out in favor of oxygen, and Democrats would hold their breath.

>>And it's not like I want the Democratic party to consist of lunatics.

>I honestly call into question what your measure of what makes one a lunatic or not.
There are certain key issues.

>>I mean, do you want him to lose?

>Do you want him to lose?
Within the Democratic primary? No; I don't particularly want him to lose, and I think it would be good for him to make it to the general election. In the general? Yes; because I don't support his positions over all, I don't think he would be an effective leader, and he's part of a party that has done nothing but give me reasons to detest it.

>Yikes Bernie's done for.

Warren has clearly never lied by definition. /shrug

>>359670
>Yeah, i agreed the media is bias to the DNC, but for some reason you're demanding a candidate needlessly react to what some extremist said, just to appease you, like your important at all.
That's how you get support - by telling people they aren't important. /popcorn
>It would be stupid for Bernie to make a controversy bigger than it needs to be, neither would trump. Esp when he already always says he is against it, and esp durring a primary where the media is bias against him.
Again, I point you back to the same article that you posted. A Trump campaigner was fired instantly and denounced by the campaign for what was essentially... a slur against some random nobody? and a nonsense comment about Obama that sounds like something a drunk uncle would say? and for that, he got shitcanned. instantly. And you expect me to believe, that if this guy was just kept on the campaign, and the campaign said nothing and refused to acknowledge it, that this wouldn't itself be a massive scandal against Trump?
But if I hold Bernie to the exact same standard, that I am a hypocrite. alright, sure. /popcorn
>But you're giving me this "Bernie just wont do it because he knows the majority of his support are tankies that want gulags, and he knows it will ruin him if he condems it because he will lose all his support" bullshit.
I didn't say majority, either. But keep putting words in my mouth. /popcorn
>He is not doing it because he is smart enough to not willingly associate his name with those retards any more than it already it, and he is smart enough to know doing that just to cater to some political screamer and get an "A+" from some dude on the internet who would latch onto the next controversy reguardless would be mental.
Hey, I'm just some guy with an opinion. You don't like my opinion? Tough shit.
>You really think he gives a fuck what your kind thinks when your just going to start freaking out over the next thing anyway? No. No one fucking does.
No, I don't think Bernie "White people don't know what it's like to be poor" Sanders gives a fuck what I think, which is yet another reason why I'm going to be voting against him if given the chance.
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Anonymous (ID: 43bd3f)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  359706

>>359704
I disagree with that old Jew and also hate him 😂

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>>359706
Maybe you'll change your mind if he starts directly addressing the concerns of fringe-right wannabe journalist gamers who make no effort to interview him.

Anonymous (ID: 49717d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  359708

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>>359707
I don't like him because he is a racist, has little to no empathy outside of those whom he wishes to please in his obvious agenda and bias, and wishes for far too radical change through violently pushing out the current normality of how things are done in this nation.

Which I find almost comical considering he is a white guy who hates other white guys.
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>>359708
You sound like the average assravaged Biden-voting black voter tbh, just replace white with black

Anonymous (ID: 49717d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  359710

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>>359709

Not an argument.

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>>359710
Voting for Trump because you think Bernie Sanders is racist and also white is probably the stupidest thing I've ever heard, what kind of response were you expecting when you set the bar so low?

!XSAILBoatg (ID: 569c15)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  359712

>>359706 I don't hate the guy, but I have lost my respect for him. Back in 2016, I actually thought he held principled positions, and that if he had won, despite my disagreeing with most of his positions, that he might have been a decent leader. He's since managed to prove me wrong repeatedly. But what do I know - I'm just a random nobody in a swing state whose opinion doesn't matter and who the dems clearly never want voting for them again.

Anonymous (ID: 49717d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  359713

>>359711

When did I say I was voting for Trump?

Not that you're wrong, but I really like the assumption. It shows moxy, and a show of character. Ignoring the last bit about being too radical for my tastes was also a nice touch. Though to answer your question at the risk of being condemned by your golden judgement, I don't really see Trump as nearly racist or biased.

I think I should add, that if there was someone else whom I found in my own personal opinion to be a better candidate who is running then that is the person I would vote for. I don't see why you need to make this so black and white: Us vs Them.

>>359712

He comes off as nonsensical, idealistic, and completely unrealistic to me. A lot of hot air and no backbone, yet the threat of him being put into office should be taken seriously. If we put that man into office it would be a disaster.

That said I don't disagree with every single thing he has said.
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>>359713
I didn't assume, I can just recognize a fellow neolib/socdem (depends on who you ask), which you are clearly neither.

He's too radical for my tastes as well, but someone further left than me would definitely shift things towards where I'd like them to be in the next decade. To assume that he would overshoot those expectations would be wildly pessimistic, considering the restrictions and undermining that even someone more moderate like Obama had to wade through.

Who's your favorite dem? Is it Tulsi?

!XSAILBoatg (ID: 569c15)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  359715

>>359713
>He comes off as nonsensical, idealistic, and completely unrealistic to me.
I think it makes sense within his worldview, but it is pretty far-fetched.
>A lot of hot air and no backbone,
agreed.
>yet the threat of him being put into office should be taken seriously. If we put that man into office it would be a disaster.
Honestly, I wouldn't expect him to last long, given his health and the stress of the job, so a vote for Bernie is a vote for his VP and the Dem platform in my opinion. so, in short, a likely disaster.
>That said I don't disagree with every single thing he has said.
It's too bad that bipartisan issues no longer exist.

>>359714
>Who's your favorite dem? Is it Tulsi?
I respect Tulsi and think she would be a good leader, even as I disagree with her on various things.

Mk17(phone)!!Trixie (ID: 4e04a3)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  359717

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>>359704
>That's how you get support - by telling people they aren't important. /popcorn
No, its more about not cartering to the whims of people who are always screaming about gulags and antifa, instead of actual policies and shit on the internet.
>Again... Ect...
Yeah, you very clearly still dont get the point.
>inb4 "then what is itm [insert smug internet zinger here]"
I've already explained it, and you keep going on about serface level here and now bullshit, and i dont want to spend the time to teach you about basic politics.
>I didn't say majority, either. But keep putting words in my mouth. /popcorn
Fine, "significant proportion"
But also >>359653
>large enough to sway elections in wacko states like California and Washington. Do you think the Antifa types, the Berkeley mobs, and their myriad supporters, will go vote for someone who denounces them?
So yes, you didnt say literally the word "majority" you said "enough to sway an election" and then implided a significant amount of people in California are members of antifa mobs.
Kind of like the left does to the right, and hate groups, neat.
Btw, the "/popcorn" thing makes you sound smart. I feel like you would want that reassurance.
>Hey, I'm just some guy with an opinion. You don't like my opinion? Tough shit.
Seems like a non sequitur, but yeah, thats exactly what he is doing, not giving a shit about your opinion, and its a good strategy. Trump dose it all the time.
So glad we agree there.
>yet another reason why I'm going to be voting against him if given the chance.
Yeah, and any politician that start catering to the "omg!! Did you hear what that one guy in Iowa said candidly?? /popcorn lmao! Bernie want gulags now! Antifa! Proudboys! Trump wants an ethnostate!" children who will continue to scream and yell about stupid shit reguardless, has already lost, because though your loud in your internet circles, you're a vast minority. The Dems tried, and it fucked them for 2 elections.
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Anonymous (ID: bc9a5a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  359720

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>>359714
I wouldn't call myself either one of those titles, so I suppose you are correct there.

>He's too radical for my tastes as well, but someone further left than me would definitely shift things towards where I'd like them to be in the next decade. To assume that he would overshoot those expectations would be wildly pessimistic, considering the restrictions and undermining that even someone more moderate like Obama had to wade through.


Obama didn't really do much of anything except not completely fuck up outside of Obamacare and his immigration policy.

>Who's your favorite dem? Is it Tulsi?


I haven't really come to any conclusions. I feel that I would have to look into it a bit more.

!XSAILBoatg (ID: 569c15)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  359722

>>359717
>No, its more about not cartering to the whims of people who are always screaming about gulags and antifa, instead of actual policies and shit on the internet.
Yes, it's better to leave people in doubt. /popcorn
>Fine, "significant proportion"
I'll give you my actual estimates if you like. I think 1-2% of Democrats believe things that are insane and should be denounced by anyone seeking to win a general election. But this isn't a general election, and Bernie is the fringe of the Democrat party, so my estimate is that 5-10% of his supporters fall into this camp. Do you think that 5-10% of Bernie's support isn't enough to sway an election? because I would definitely say it is.
>So yes, you didnt say literally the word "majority" you said "enough to sway an election"
correct
>and then implided a "significant majority" of people in California are members of antifa mobs.
again, not a majority. However, these are Ground Zero for the Resistance types, and are indisputably places where a higher proportion of far left individuals reside.
>Btw, the "/popcorn" thing makes you sound smart. I feel like you would want that reassurance.
glad to hear it. /popcorn
>Seems like a non sequitur, but yeah, thats exactly what he is doing, not giving a shit about your opinion, and its a good strategy. Trump dose it all the time.
It's not like Bernie wanted my vote anyway, so good on him I guess. and I'll continue spreading the word about him as a consequence.
>So glad we agree there.
/popcorn
>Yeah, and any politician that start catering to the "omg!! Did you hear what that one guy in Iowa said candidly?? /popcorn lmao! Bernie want gulags now! Antifa! Proudboys! Trump wants an ethnostate!" children who will continue to scream and yell about stupid shit reguardless, because though your loud in your internet circles, you're a vast minority.
Am I? Seems like I'm in the minority here. And my condition for Bernie is clearly stated and no different whatsoever from what has become the accepted norm, the norm we have thanks to the Democratic Party and its adherents. And I will take every opportunity to call out the hypocritical party of cancel culture, when it fails to cancel its own, because regardless of how much virtue signalling the Dems do, in reality they care about nothing but their own tribe, principles be damned.
>The Dems tried, and it fucked them for 2 elections.
With any luck, it will continue to fuck them, because the party as a whole deserves to go down in flames.
/popcorn
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Mk17(phone)!!Trixie (ID: 4e04a3)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  359723

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>>359670
>But you're giving me this "Bernie just wont do it because he knows the majority of his support are tankies that want gulags, and he knows it will ruin him if he condems it because he will lose all his support" bullshit.

"Politicians do not pander to their audience."
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Mk17(phone)!!Trixie (ID: 4e04a3)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  359726

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>>359724
Cheers

Anonymous (ID: bc9a5a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  359728

>>359726
You don't make any sense dude.

Mk17(phone)!!Trixie (ID: 4e04a3)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  359730

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>>359728
Alright.

vynn (ID: 0931d2)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  359737

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>>359704
>Again, do you want people who disagree with Bernie to also hate him?
Not like I want to, but certainly feels like certain people are simply going to hate him no matter what at all he says or does. I mean at the end of the day ya ain't gonna control literally every person who just hates you, and attempting to placate every whim of every one is just going to be a waste of time. Especially when most of the people who hate him likely want to hate him and won't believe him anyway. "You're just saying that but are obviously lying and still secretly believe the opposite" etc.

>rolling over and letting Hillary just take the primary, and then giving her his blessing for the pleasure.

That's literally what a primary election is for, he lost the election, he's supposed to get on board with the winning candidate!! This is some straight up unfaithful any-action-he-takes-is-the-wrong-one bullshit.

He "rolls over" and supports Clinton? "Wow you're weak for helping her at all!!"
He instead keeps fighting strong despite it? "Wow you just took votes away from Clinton and are the reason Trump won!"

>Bernie is now arguing against his own formerly held position, which is that the Dems stacked the deck against him, because Trump agreed with the position, and disagreeing with Trump is more important than pointing out the corruption within his own party.

No clue what you're talking about.

>In the general? Yes; because I don't support his positions over all, I don't think he would be an effective leader, and he's part of a party that has done nothing but give me reasons to detest it.

Damn sounds like you're exactly the person he should be taking campaign advise from.

>Warren has clearly never lied by definition

Hahaha. So Sanders openly said he didn't say what she claimed he did, there's no proof he did, and it goes opposite of what he's always said and done in the past? And you still don't believe him at all? Exactly my point, Sanders can try to say exactly what you want him to say and you're still not going to give him fuck all.

This is a straight up waste of my time. I'm outski.

Mk17(phone)!!Trixie (ID: 4e04a3)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  359738

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>>359737
>and attempting to placate every whim of every one is just going to be a waste of time. Especially when most of the people who hate him likely want to hate him and won't believe him anyway.
>Sanders can try to say exactly what you want him to say and you're still not going to give him fuck all.
You get it.

Why waste time refuting shit for people who are hard-line against him no matter what? Esp when you dont have to. It would just be and endless endeavor with no intelligible gain, and huge losses.
Like what this convo has become.
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!XSAILBoatg (ID: 569c15)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  359739

>>359737
>Not like I want to, but certainly feels like certain people are simply going to hate him no matter what at all he says or does. I mean at the end of the day ya ain't gonna control literally every person who just hates you, and attempting to placate every whim of every one is just going to be a waste of time. Especially when most of the people who hate him likely want to hate him and won't believe him anyway. "You're just saying that but are obviously lying and still secretly believe the opposite" etc.

I don't hate him. But the "fuck off if you disagree" attitude typical of Bernie supporters is sure making me dislike him more, because the actions of presumptive Bernie supporters do influence my thoughts on Bernie. And while I'm sure Mk is going to chime in to call me a hypocrite, recognize that this goes "both ways" so to speak and is a normal part of the human experience. Just as a bad experience with a Trump supporter can negatively influence one's views on Trump, a negative experience with a Bernie supporter can negatively influence one's views on Bernie. This, yet again, is why it's important to denounce the crazies, whether you like it or not.

and I can't say I've ever heard a Republican tell me, "If you don't agree with us, get out. We don't want your vote." really makes you think...

And you're right. There are people who will think, if Bernie denounces the crazies, that he's lying and secretly believes the opposite. This holds true for Trump as well, yet Trump denounces the crazies regardless, whether people believe him or not, because it is in fact the right thing to do, unless you openly support the crazies. Bernie? not so much...

>That's literally what a primary election is for, he lost the election, he's supposed to get on board with the winning candidate!! This is some straight up unfaithful any-action-he-takes-is-the-wrong-one bullshit.


“the [DNC]'s neutrality among Democratic campaigns during the primaries was merely a 'political promise,' and therefore it had no legal obligations to remain impartial throughout the process.”
so... He lost a biased primary, and then rolled over and supported the winner.
Is that strong leadership to you? Sounds more like a lemming to me.

>He "rolls over" and supports Clinton? "Wow you're weak for helping her at all!!"

>He instead keeps fighting strong despite it? "Wow you just took votes away from Clinton and are the reason Trump won!"

I'd certainly respect him more if he'd fought it, and Trump won regardless.

>No clue what you're talking about.

1) https://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/bernie-sanders-democratic-national-committee-222895
2) https://www.vox.com/2016/5/6/11590174/trump-sanders-system-rigged
fast forward to 2020...
3) https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/481289-sanders-campaign-rejects-trump-claims-democratic-primary-is-not-currently
"Weaver [ a senior adviser to Bernie Sanders's 2020 presidential campaign ] said last week that the change is the "definition of a rigged system."
Trump agrees that it's rigged against Bernie
now Bernie's campaign disagrees, because Trump agreed with them

>Damn sounds like you're exactly the person he should be taking campaign advise from.

If the Dems don't want my vote, then full steam ahead.

>Hahaha. So Sanders openly said he didn't say what she claimed he did, there's no proof he did, and it goes opposite of what he's always said and done in the past? And you still don't believe him at all? Exactly my point, Sanders can try to say exactly what you want him to say and you're still not going to give him fuck all.

Well, damn, that struck a nerve. I do believe him. But according to Woke Logic(TM), we have to believe Warren. These are the rules you guys wanted.

>This is a straight up waste of my time. I'm outski.

Talking to you, is indeed a waste of my time, but if you think Bernie is going to make it anywhere near the whitehouse by simply pandering to the woke left, I've got a bridge to sell you.
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dragoni!XponyNZ6g6 (ID: ae720a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  359804

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Somebody spilled popcorn ALL over the floor.

Donald Trump (ID: 7cce32)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  359830

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>>359804
Nobody spills popcorn like me, buddy.

Anonymous (ID: a06416)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  359850

imagine being such a cuck you actually participate in electoral politics.

!XSAILBoatg (ID: 569c15)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  360170

Oh, hey look, another Bernie terrorist supporter doing what Commies do best
https://krcrtv.com/north-coast-news/eureka-local-news/suspect-back-out-on-the-street-after-arrest-for-attempted-arson-at-eureka-gop-office
It's almost like Bernie should tell these people to stop being violent pieces of shit or something.

Anonymous (ID: aedc7f)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  360178

>>360170
Why does that last bit sound like something Tipper Gore would say something against metal music in 1984?

Anonymous (ID: aedc7f)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  360181

Why the fuck does the guy on the left look like he's going to drop dead any second?

Why does the woman in the middle have such a huge fucking mouth?

And why does the guy on the right look like a Who from The Grinch? Seriously he doesn't even need make up or anything just throw him in a fucking costume and he would fit right in.

Starshine!Laura/wmXM (ID: dfcf70)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  360267

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This thread is appalling but also kind of awe inspiring. What a beautiful disaster.

!FGiFL0Ecls (ID: 6abab3)Country code: windows9x.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  360285

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>>360181
good one Maroon, def not cringe

Anonymous (ID: bb3b45)Country code: br, country type: geoip, valid: 1  360310

I'ma ignore the rest of the thread and whine about politics in my country
>be 2018
>mcfucko Bolsonaro is pretty much guaranteed to get into run-offs with one other candidate
>all candidates would beat him in the run-offs except the left winger Haddad from PT, because red stars are bad I guess
>Brazilians: "well fuck, I don't want Mr Pockets in there but the only other people who exists is Haddad?"
>also Brazilians: *ignores all other candidates who are almost all of them a better fucking pick than Haddad*
>tl;dr 2018 elections were likely to go into run-offs and the worst two candidates of the entire field were picked, including the only one that would lose to the actual worst pick

Democracy fucking blows.

Anonymous (ID: 782138)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  360314

>>360310
The system is alright, but it has to rely on a smart population to work.

(ID: 89fb65)Country code: amsterdam.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  360316

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>>360310
This is basically what the last US election was.


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