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Finland and Denmark Stand in way of Europian Minimum Wage Laws Mk17(phone)!!Trixie (ID: 57b1ea)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid:   353063

#Politics
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/12/nordic-countries-at-odds-with-eu-over-minimum-wage

So not only is it literally evil that these countries have no minimum wage laws atm, but now they dont want the rest of the union to implement a federal requirement to member states.
When will the corrupt far-right nordic capitalist nations learn that without mandating these things, everyone will be living in a impoverished corporate dystopia?

Finland and Denmark need less sovereignty, so the EU can reign them in and get them on track with the right side of history.

Mikie!!Starlight Glimmer (ID: 3ec4d9)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  353064

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From my understanding (could be wrong) alot of those countries use a collective bargaining system which the need of minimum wage not needed

That's likely why they are doing that

But I see the EU is taking lessons from our government at home

Sad tbh

Tis why the idea of federalism is generally shit
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Anonymous (ID: c1d86f)Country code: tux.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  353065

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Mk17(phone)!!Trixie (ID: 57b1ea)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  353066

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>>353064
>From my understanding (could be wrong) alot of those countries use a collective bargaining system which the need of minimum wage not needed
Thats exactly right, and implimenting a minimum wage would actual take leverage away from that bargaining and give companies less insentive to provide benifits and wages instead of simply complying with the law that mandates they pay less to their employees.

Far-right evil countries they be for rejecting minimum wage laws. They should be giving a minimum wage by law! Then the employees should be begging the law be changed every few years and not getting it as poverty rises! Like a civilized caring nation!
Instead they hold on to their backwards alt-right capitalist notions just because its "working" for them.
Marx didnt write anything about this 2020 situation in 1848, and i have no other frame of reference, but they are wrong, and the government should be deciding how much people make.
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Mikie!!Starlight Glimmer (ID: 3ec4d9)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  353074

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>>353066
Well, as the saying goes

If isn't broke, don't fix it.

Honestly the collective bargaining system is far better than dumb minimum wage laws

Been saying that for years

Mk17(phone)!!Trixie (ID: 57b1ea)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  353076

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>>353074
Normally i would agree, but in the interest of being politically correct, i must insist that the only virtuous way society can take is by mandating a minimum wage, and dismissing any opinion to the contrary as alt right extremist dog wistling.

The evidence and reality dont matter, because without a minimum wage, a company in finland or denmark could pay their employees 1 cent an hour, and there needs to be laws that prevent that, non existent, yet possible situation.

I mean, I've never been there, i dont know the culture beyond surface level, and i have no clue what it takes to live a life there, but i know what is good for them, and this is it.
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Mikie!!Starlight Glimmer (ID: 3ec4d9)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  353077

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>>353076
Damn, dude

You'd be a good politician!

Mk17(phone)!!Trixie (ID: 57b1ea)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  353078

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>>353077
I know.

Mikie!!Starlight Glimmer (ID: 3ec4d9)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  353079

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>>353078
It's kinda odd, how people boast about these Nordic countries as being the prime example of how the US should be

What they don't understand is the tax and wage system there isn't what they think it really is...

!SATSUkIQg2 (ID: d9eaa5)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  353081

Counting the seconds til fox defends this because he team-plays.

Mk17(phone)!!Trixie (ID: 57b1ea)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  353082

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>>353079
I agree they are a good model tbh, its just what the people who say that suggest is nothing like the nordic model in the first place.
Not to mention, the fact that just New York city alone has ~2x the population of a country like finland, it falls apart, esp on the federal level.

And thats what people seem to never understand, when ONE US city has twice the population of your entire country, maybe you should stop saying what the entire US should "be doing".
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Mikie!!Starlight Glimmer (ID: 3ec4d9)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  353083

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>>353082
Yeah, that's what I try to explain to others but nobody gets it

That's the flaw with federalism

Things function far better when jurisdiction functions on it's own

Mk17(phone)!!Trixie (ID: 57b1ea)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  353086

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>>353083
Well, im already seeing people say things like I've said iit, but unironically, so i suppose the nordic states will be reciving a nice helping of federal oversite themselves, and we can see how it jives with their model.
Because, if they leave the EU like the UK is doing, well, thats just alt-right brain washing.

While they are at it, they should loosen up the nordic immigration laws and curtail nordic civilian gun ownership too.
The nordic countries are a terrible unjust and impoverished, crime riddled place to live, and they need the EU to step in and set them strieght before its too late.
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Mikie!!Starlight Glimmer (ID: 3ec4d9)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  353087

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>>353086
The fact people have this mindset grinds my gears tbh

This is why I usually look to Switzerland as a good economic model

All the EU is doing is taking advice from American presidential candidates

Mk17(phone)!!Trixie (ID: 57b1ea)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  353088

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>>353087
And American presidential candidates take advice from kids on the internet with the most upvotes, who in turn get their advice from corporate media.

Its natures way

Mikie!!Starlight Glimmer (ID: 3ec4d9)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  353089

>>353088
At this point it's a never ending loop.

Mk17(phone)!!Trixie (ID: 57b1ea)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  353091

>>353089
A never ending loop?

Mikie!!Starlight Glimmer (ID: 3ec4d9)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  353092

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>>353091
Nvm.

Anyway, but yeah

This course of action is not the way to go.

It's fine as is.

Anonymous (ID: bf8c85)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  353093

>>353081
because you can't count high enough until someone is brave enough to acknowledge the reduced suicide statistic?

Mk17(phone)!!Trixie (ID: 57b1ea)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  353095

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>>353092
I was hoping you would answer "yes, a never ending loop" and i would ask "a never ending loop" and we would just make a never ending loop.

Anyway, there is 1 study that focused on a completely different country with a completely different economic model that said that in limited cases, a high minimum wage reduces suicide see? >>353065

So, the science is settled, what more do you need? If the EU doesn't act now, literally everyone in the nordic countries are going to kill themselves because of how horrible it is currently to live in those countries! Making this law will save the lives of children, and return the mess of the nordic states back to prosperity.

Mikie!!Starlight Glimmer (ID: 3ec4d9)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  353097

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>>353095
But I was always told people in those Nordic countries were most happiest people in the world?

:thonking:

Mk17(phone)!!Trixie (ID: 57b1ea)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  353098

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>>353097
Nope, suicidal, every one of them, and its all thanks to having no minimum wage law.

Mikie!!Starlight Glimmer (ID: 3ec4d9)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  353100

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>>353098
Well shit...

Mk17(phone)!!Trixie (ID: 57b1ea)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  353101

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>>353100
Its pretty tragic yes, but there is hope.
If the EU can force them to change their failed so called "nordic model" then suicide will be completely eliminated within the nordic states.
Except finland of course, because they allow civilian ownership of semi automatic weapons. Finlands suicide rate will still be 100% unfortunately, but the EU is working on that problem as we speek.

Mikie!!Starlight Glimmer (ID: 3ec4d9)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  353102

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>>353101
Wow, the miracles of legislation!

But seriously, why fix what isn't broken

Collective barginning is much better than minimum wage laws

I'm lost here...

Mk17(phone)!!Trixie (ID: 57b1ea)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  353104

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>>353102
Because one size fits all so the nordic countries and greese need the exact same laws, since they have the exact same cultures and economics.
Duh.

These separate states cant be trusted to run themselves, i mean, look at Denmark, literally a slave culture where people only earn pennys a month because there is no regulations that mandate otherwise.
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Mikie!!Starlight Glimmer (ID: 3ec4d9)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  353105

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>>353104
I wish more people would get that...

(ID: 3ec4d9)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  353106

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I think if one state if the state's here in America would practice the Nordic model youd prolly get good results tbh

AustroSpike (ID: fa72b4)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  353195

With all those taxes and feesI just want the community to cater for a catalogue of needs without it being a matter how well you are by inheritance, get payed, or a bureaucratic shitfest otherwise.


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