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Problematic Smartphone Usage now a psychiatric disorder Anonymous (ID: a2d65f)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid:   346446[Last 50 Posts]

Chewy (ID: 8b2aa1)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  346448

fucking boomers

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This is why no one takes mental health seriously.

🦊 (ID: d47462)Country code: windows9x.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  346454

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yeah, no where in that does it say that

the only mentions of "disorder" are in correlation to smartphone use
as in how peeps got them mental disorders more now and phone use has also increased during the same time frame
I think it's more to do with access to information

>>346449
>gatekeeping mental illness

Toybox(Professional Slut)!!Celestia (ID: a9e480)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346455

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>>346454
Gatekeeping wha-?

Okay, I am certain at this point that you learned a different version of english than everybody else because the asinine conclusions you come to from the shit you read makes no sense to anyone, ever. This is why everyone thinks you are nothing but a troll.

Because the conclusions you come to based on what you read have absolutely no logical basis in reality, ever.

Someone could say "The sky is blue." and you'd say, "There's no sea in the sky." as if that's what they were trying to say, for some reason, even though no sane, rational person would ever come to that conclusion in any capacity. I'd tell you to think before you speak, but I don't think that's going to solve the problem, because whatever meth addled party your braincells are having doesn't show any signs of stopping any time soon.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 541252)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346456

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>>346455
Fox jumped to conclusions and posted a simplistic 4chan-teir bro take simply for the purpose of being insulting for his own personal amusement?
Thats strange, and unlike him, i sure hope he is feeling alright.

The whole "don't feed the parasprites" thing needs to make a comeback i think.

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>>346456
I'm just really tired of his ass trying to strawman every goddamn discussion just because he can. He never has anything constructive to add. All he ever fucking does is take someone else's comment, twist it into some nuclear fucking take and act like he's just the smartest little shit on the board, despite the fact that he never has ANYTHING to follow up with other than more strawman bullshit, relying on the fact that if he can just prove his opponent wrong, he doesn't have to be right.

What I was GETTING at in my original post before this smooth brained piece of shit decided to open his mouth was that every time they classify every single little thing as it's own separate illness it's going to get to the point where just being alive is considered a mental illness band the term is going to lose all meaning, leaving those who actually need help left with none.

But no, this spunk stain here has to come in with some "gatekeeping" bullshit because yeah, gatekeeping fucking mental illness of all things is something someone would want to fucking do instead of taking a moment to think, "Hey, maybe I shouldn't be retarded and give this more than two seconds of thought."
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☲ Prince Ember Storm!MSNowBALLk (ID: b5ab9c)Country code: canadian-red-ensign.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  346463

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>>346456
>>346462
Hot take, perhaps, but he adds nothing of value to the site, and actively detracts from the experience of a multitude of users here, so why does he not get banned?

Anonymous (ID: a2d65f)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346464

>>346456
Well now, I wouldn't say that.

>Posts medical research paper few people here have the reading comprehension to read, let alone understand


>Wah! I hate medical papers that disagree with my world view


>Waves the usual shit about something coming from 'that chan'


Everything I expect from the few active posters and nothing of merit refuting a genuine medical research paper, complete with peer review.

PS, the US media source for the paper was...
https://9to5mac.com/2019/11/29/problematic-smartphone-usage/

As for Toybox, I refuse to bother with trying adult conversation any further. It's as if there's nothing remotely interesting that can be openly discussed without it being attributed to /pol/ in one way or another. In short, the user name is blocked.

This research paper is legitimate. Condemnation of it for the wrong reasons isn't.

☲ Prince Ember Storm!MSNowBALLk (ID: b5ab9c)Country code: canadian-red-ensign.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  346465

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>>346464
>>Posts medical research paper few people here have the reading comprehension to read, let alone understand

Why would you do this, though, if you apparently know full well that no one here will A) understand it or B) even bother reading it.

Anonymous (ID: a2d65f)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346466

>>346465
Because when you cut to the core of the issue, this is something people who are addicted to smartphone use should be concerned about.

Granted the paper is very dry and isn't written for the average reader, it is supportive of the simple fact that too many people have their phones and/or ear buds welded to their skull too many hours a day.

I hope that basic idea isn't going over too many heads.

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>>346463
Because being a cuntshit is not technically against the rules.

>>346464
I could care fucking less about the paper. I'm more fucking irritated with Fox for being a thoroughly obnoxious little shit for the umpteenth time.

If you can't figure out the difference here that's your problem. I know how to have a civil fucking discussion when it's useful. Having a discussion with Fox with anything is like trying to French kiss a cordless drill.

The!HawkpfCZY. (ID: c4f7bb)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346468

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>>346467
>Because being a cuntshit is not technically against the rules.
Thank goodness.

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>>346468
Yeah, if it was like half our userbase would be gone.

The!HawkpfCZY. (ID: c4f7bb)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346470

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>>346469
Can't have that. Just the ones we don't like.

☲ Prince Ember Storm!MSNowBALLk (ID: b5ab9c)Country code: canadian-red-ensign.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  346471

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>>346467
Sure, but...

The!HawkpfCZY. (ID: c4f7bb)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346472

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>>346471
/ef/ has it's own rules.

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>>346464
Also, you never tried to have an adult conversation. I said something, Fox said something stupid in response, I went off on him for being fucking stupid then clarified by position. If you don't agree with it, fine. Present an argument and I'll look at it. Making a claim that I'm "gatekeeping mental illness" is not a fucking argument, and not one I'm going to "be adult" about responding to. I'm not going to have a fucking "adult discussion" with someone who has the mental capacity of a pigeon.

So don't try to act like it's me being fucking unreasonable here.

Ika's name (ID: 447e39)Country code: mx, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346476

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>>346463
You are asking them to remove one of the few toppings this boring ass pile of plain yogurt of a site has.

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>>346476
Rat shit is not a topping.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 541252)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346480

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>>346463
I wouldn't call that a "hot take" more of a general consensus.
But toy is right here >>346467
Being the biggest loser on the pony site is not against the rules. I've even gone so far as to defend the creep when it gets seriously proposed, simply because ... Idk why at this point tbh... Fairness and integrity and other pussy bull shit i guess...
>>346462
I know what you mean, they keep calling personalities "disorders" and whos bar are they using? Psychiatry is basicly still in it "bloodletting the demons out" stage, but everyone takes whatever new idea slithers its way out of it as 100% fact and line up to down as many pills and push as many pills down their kids throats as possible without question.
As for fox, fuck that kid. Imagine how sad the life must be to be on a board for years without building even 1 relationship or expressing even just 1 original thought. Just ignore him, he most certainly needs this place a lot more than we need him. Its like the annoying little brother that mom forces you to take along.
>>346464
No clue what you're on about. Not really interested in figuring it out ether.
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vynn (ID: 0f85df)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346481

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Smartphone addiction doesn't feel like an individual disorder, but I would call it a systemic problem. They are addictive as fuck. How many people can't go a car ride without impulsively checking their phone during it? I know I struggle sometimes.

☲ Prince Ember Storm!MSNowBALLk (ID: b5ab9c)Country code: canadian-red-ensign.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  346482

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>>346476
I'm the only topping this site needs.

Ika's name (ID: 447e39)Country code: mx, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346483

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>>346482
You are like sprinkles.

>>346479
I'd say he's more of a peach.

☲ Prince Ember Storm!MSNowBALLk (ID: b5ab9c)Country code: canadian-red-ensign.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  346484

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>>346483
Ika, I am the prime example of flawless bird y'ever did see.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 541252)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346485

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☲ Prince Ember Storm!MSNowBALLk (ID: b5ab9c)Country code: canadian-red-ensign.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  346486

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>>346485
No no nononono, that's a birdplane, not a bird.

Different. Entirely different.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 541252)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346487

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>>346486
You'd still ride it though.

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>>346483
I prefer the term cunt, but if you wanna use the Japanese slang for it be my guest.

Ika's name (ID: 447e39)Country code: mx, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346489

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>>346488
Don't you dare weeb me.
Keep that filth away from me.

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>>346489
You said it, not me.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 541252)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346491

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>>346488
That gives a new perspective on princess peach.
About right though.

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>>346491
The Japanese are notorious for using the word "peach" in titles for sexually charged material.

It's slang for pussy.
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☲ Prince Ember Storm!MSNowBALLk (ID: b5ab9c)Country code: canadian-red-ensign.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  346496

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>>346498
Because the shape looks a lot like the mound of a pussy. The crease on the peach is the vagina.

http://www.sex-lexis.com/-dictionary/peach -#4

The!HawkpfCZY. (ID: c4f7bb)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346500

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>>346499
I'm trying to see if there are any Japanese sources but I can't find any.

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>>346500
Look up Japanese games with peach in the title.

It started out as more related to femininity and fertility in ancient Japanese folk lore.

https://japanesemythology.wordpress.com/the-peach-as-a-kami-and-mother-goddess-and-symbol-of-fertility-and-immortality/

The!HawkpfCZY. (ID: c4f7bb)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346502

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>>346501
I would prefer a more direct source, but alright.

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>>346502
I'm at work and googling between serving customers, but I'm sure if you really wanted to dig I can assure you that peaches have a relevance to Japanese culture.

Point is this: Fox is a cunt, okay?
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The!HawkpfCZY. (ID: c4f7bb)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346504

>>346503
I'm not saying it doesn't, I'm trying to find a direct link from peaches to pussy as a slang word in Japan.

Anonymous (ID: 731bc1)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  346505

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>>346499
>>346498

The Peach can represent either depending on who you're talking to.

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>>346504
It's not a direct translation. It more references the idea of femininity. They don't actually say the word "peach" the same way we use the word pussy or cunt. It's just more of a referential thing.

Japanese doesn't really work the same way English does, which is why direct translations sound incredibly silly.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 541252)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346507

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>>346496
You wouldnt fuck a birbplane?
Dude, even i would. I mean, thats a once in a lifetime opportunity.

>>346503
Good point.

>>346504
I found one that said it was used to refer to a girls inner thigh, but i dont feel like looking it up again to find it.
The Japanese word for peach is "momo" though, if that helps. I thought it was pretty funny at least.

The!HawkpfCZY. (ID: c4f7bb)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346508

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>>346506
Wouldn't call it slang then.

Anyway, night.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 541252)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346509

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>>346508
Look, slang was easier to say than "colloquialism" alright?

Get up off my ass about it.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 541252)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346511

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Welp, I'm not getting any (you)s so I'm off to bed to haha.
G'ni~

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>>346507
The term used for the section of a girl's exposed thigh between the bottom of the skirt and the top of the stockings is "Absolute Territory."

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>>346511
(YOU) get back here, I still have two hours of work left.

Ika's name (ID: 447e39)Country code: mx, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346516

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>>346514
Have a (you).

Anonymous (ID: 731bc1)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  346517

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>>346508
Except slang can be exactly that.

Especially when dealing with other languages.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 541252)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346518

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>>346513
Too late, already asleep.
As a side note though, I'm referring to a girl's bits as an "absolute territory" from now on.
>>346514
Quipper would be the name of a dolphin if it was a late night talkshow host.

Ika's name (ID: 447e39)Country code: mx, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346519

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>>346518
>As a side note though, I'm referring to a girl's bits as an "absolute territory" from now on.
But that's wrong.

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>>346518
But that's-

>>346519
This.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 541252)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346524

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>>346521
I can call it whatever i want.
If "box" is accepted i can call it an absolute territory if i want to.

This is why imma trend setter, don't give a fuuuuuck.

>>346523

That's a good way to end up in a can of tuna fish.

Ika's name (ID: 447e39)Country code: mx, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346526

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>>346523
Bitch I don't need your pity.
Have this!
(You)(You)(You)(You)(You)(You)(You)(You)(You)(You)(You)(You)(You)(You)(You)(You)(You)(You)(You)(You)(You)(You)(You)(You)(You)

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 541252)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346527

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>>346525
Quipper! NOOOOOOO!

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>>346529
I think he did it on porpoise.

Ika's name (ID: 447e39)Country code: mx, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346531

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>>346528
I am defeetid.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 541252)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346532

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>>346529
You don't necessarily have to be fascist to drop an nbomb.

Weren't n bombs in perfect dark?

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 541252)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346534

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>>346530
Imma kick you square in your absolute territory.

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>>346535
It didn't really click with me either.

>>346534
I'm just saying the whole thing seemed pretty fishy.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 541252)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346540

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>>346535
He should learn to finnish what he started.

>>346536
We should dolphinitely scale back on
puns.

>>346538

Thems were a bombs.
An n bomb is to the nword as and f bomb is to the f word, no?

!SATSUkIQg2 (ID: 54174e)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  346616

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We are living in an age.

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>>346455
>>346462
>Gatekeeping: When someone takes it upon themselves to decide who does or does not have access or rights to a community or identity.
Literally what you meant:
<What I was GETTING at in my original post before this smooth brained piece of shit decided to open his mouth was that every time they classify every single little thing as it's own separate illness it's going to get to the point where just being alive is considered a mental illness band the term is going to lose all meaning, leaving those who actually need help left with none.

>>346456
>Fox jumped to conclusions and posted a simplistic 4chan-teir bro take simply for the purpose of being insulting for his own personal amusement?
A conclusion that is apparently perfectly concluded. It isn't even an insult. The 4chan take is definitely more aligned with Toybox, although we must always remember that posting on a site does not mean you align your views with its majority.

>>346464
I don't think it's a psychiatric disorder just because a psychiatry organisation researches it. Again, the study doesn't suggest that it is or should be a psychiatric disorder. An article reporting that it is doesn't make it so.

>>346467
>Having a discussion with Fox with anything is like trying to French kiss a cordless drill.
Yeah, having what you feel like is correct challenged over and over again must be really tough.

>>346474
>Making a claim that I'm "gatekeeping mental illness" is not a fucking argument
Ding ding ding! We have a winner! It's merely a "c'mon dude, don't be like this".

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>>346626
You're a cancerous idiot. Nowhere was I doing what you described, you complete fucking waste of a person.
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>>346631
I even quoted the part where you clarified that you were doing it.
like what the heck

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>>346626
Like i give a shit what you have to say.

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>>346635
Mk17 jumped to conclusions and posted a simplistic 4chan-teir bro take simply for the purpose of being insulting for his own personal amusement?
Thats strange, and unlike him, i sure hope he is feeling alright.

The whole "don't feed the parasprites" thing needs to make a comeback i think.

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>>346633
No, you are the ONLY idiot that would interpret it that way. Everyone else here gets what I'm saying just fine. You're just so mentally broken you can't even understand how words work.

In fact, the logical hoops you've jumped through to get to this conclusion completely evade me. Usually I can somewhat put together illogical bullshit but with you, there is no rhyme or reason. You just say whatever you feel like saying and then act like it's a fact. I can't even fathom how you could even start to misconstrue what I said into 'gatekeeping'.
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>>346637
I mean, what's even the point of telling me that? To signal to other posters that you weren't completely out of place and hypocritical in your projection?

>>346638
>every time they classify every single little thing as it's own separate illness it's going to get to the point where just being alive is considered a mental illness
This a logical extreme to emphasize the disdain for the expanding boundaries of what is considered a mental illness and a suggestive voicing of the opinion that we as a society shouldn't be expanding the definition. A quintessential case of gatekeeping.
>and the term is going to lose all meaning
What you're saying here is that there is some special stigma or status in having a mental illness that needs to be preserved. Another case of gatekeeping.

But I think the most troubling part is the liberal take of
>leaving those who actually need help left with none
Complaining about how there isn't some kind of means test where someone makes the determination about who needs help the most, instead of complaining about how there isn't enough focus on delivering mental healthcare to anyone who needs it. Though this is completely removed from the gatekeeping argument.

This is my little breakdown of how your sentiment reads. I would also like to say that just because you don't intend on gatekeeping, doesn't mean you don't end up accidentally doing it.

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>>346640
I can imagine you chuckling to yourself about how stinking clever you're being.

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Why can't they just call addiction as a whole a mental illness and call it a day? That'd probably do more to ensure people actually get help.

What, do they just need something to do, so they keep making these sub-divisions of it to justify their jobs existing?

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>>346642
Its more about how dense you're being. Since you're just not getting that i couldn't care less what you have to say about anything and its sad to watch you struggle with the concept; I'm just going to simply stop responding after this because talking with you is valueless.
Have a goodin'.

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>>346646
>Why can't they just call addiction as a whole a mental illness and call it a day?
^^ this

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>>346647
yeah, these replies are really showing how much you don't care

I seriously wonder how you are making any determination on whether or not I understand that you don't care about what I say. It is utterly irrelevant to me replying. It doesn't matter if you care or not.

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We could just all block the cunt and refuse to reply to him.

Either he'll get bored and leave (unlikely due to his rampant stupidity), or he'll escalate to a point where he can be banned.

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>>346651
Its not likely he would get bored and leave, i think this is all he has.

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>>346653
So he's like Steam Twist minus the blaming everyone else for his problems.

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>>346654
Funny enough, i actually made that comparison in my last post then deleted it, because where im pretty sure steam has real issues he needs help with, i think this guy is a narcissist and just genuinely enjoys making people upset, as evidenced by the fact that he only responds to the people he gets the biggest rises out of, and he only talks when he has something negative to say to them.
Just a run of the mill troll, your idea of ignoring it is for sure the best course of action.

Ether way, its rude to talk about someone behind their back, especially right in front of them, so thats all I'll say about it.

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>>346639
Ok. So you're retarded. None of what you said makes any goddamn sense.

Why you would interpret anything I said in that way is utterly baffling.

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>>346646
Watch out. I said this and Fox called it "gatekeeping mental illness".
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>>346670
>As a matter of fact, to my knowledge there are only 16 states that have any form of licencing (via the CRCE) to even be a councilor, and 5 of them require it to be a rehab councilor.

This is what I was getting at when I said people don't take mental illness seriously.

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>>346674
I believe it's more nuanced than that. I've been studying psychology for years as you know and I've learned a lot, unfortunately no one will listen to me or take me seriously because I don't have a "degree".

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>>346676
Considering every time I read someone's psychological profile people treat it like a party trick when I get really close and everyone lining up saying "do me next!' I think it's safe to say I know a little bit about what I'm talking about.

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>>346678
The problem is that my theories are not taught in schools, so going there to learn the wrong things is pretty pointless.

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>>346680
Eh. That's a load of shit and I'm not wasting my time with it.

Besides, it would probably drive me insane having to answer all the questions wrong on purpose just to pass.

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>>346681
If you think your passive spare time reading up on phycology and opinions prove all worldwide academic study of the subject 100% wrong and you're the only keeper of the true knowledge, then not getting into the field and going to school is pretty selfish tbh. You're denying the ignorant world the truth?
How dear!
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>>346684
I was being hyperbolic as far as the 'all the questions wrong' thing. I was just pointing out that the findings I have aren't really going to show up in a college course and a lot of the shit they will 'teach me' will either be redundant shit I already know or be obsolete.

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>>346683

Close enough

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>>346666
It would be too easy to just clarify your position or refute my interpretation, so a personal attack on my intelligence and a dismissal it is.

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>>346687
You want clarification? Fine.

What I was getting at is that trying to classify SYMPTOMS as illnesses is not a good way of going about things. Cell phone addiction is just a subset of addiction, which itself is a symptom of stress/insecurity. Classifying "cell phone addiction" as a mental illness in and of itself is like trying to say "coughing" is a disease. It's a SYMPTOM of a bigger problem. Not a problem in and of itself. When you start classifying symptoms as illnesses it wastes time trying to "solve" a problem that is only being caused by a bigger, underlying one that is being completely neglected. This is not good for the patient, nor the mental health field in itself. There is already a lot of stigma against psychology being a real science as it is, so when people pull this /mu/ tier bullshit of trying to classify every single song as it's own genre, it makes the entire field look like a fucking joke.

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>>346689
>Classifying "cell phone addiction" as a mental illness in and of itself is like trying to say "coughing" is a disease.

What disease does this man have?

i dont give a fuark

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>>346685
Fair enough, like i said before, i think the field of study is still in its absolute infancy, and i think it largely based on guesses at this point.
I think history will look back at the current field and view it as being as barbaric as medicine was in the 18th and 19th century.

But, gotta start somewhere.

Honestly, i think its just an issue of over diagnosis and people who are trained poorly, because the leading thoughts on the subject change rapidly.
It seems most disorders are just an exaggeration of a trait that most people have to begin with. Like, we all feel scared or paranoid or anxious or obsessive or awkward or depressed sometimes, but those are natural feelings, its not until it chronic or intrusive to you living your life that its an actual problem.
But like, my mom got diagnosed with depression right after my dad died and her medical doctor (not a phycologist) put her on a cocktail of drugs indefinitely and told her thats just how she is, she has a disorder...
But like... Her fucking husband just died of course she is depressed ffs.
Its like, every kid who would rather be outside playing than sitting in an uncomfortable chair under florescent lights learning about algebra has attention deficit disorder... Like, are you kidding??
Its just legal drug dealing at this point.

Not to say these conditions dont exist, they certainly do, and people really suffer from them and benefit greatly from the help, but, i feel like its over diagnosed, and thats really more of a problem with the medical industry in general, than the field of study itself.

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>>346690
Chronic idiocy.

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>>346693
>>346692

Look at the comments.

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>>346691
90% of the problem stems from the brain's own cognitive bias. If you want to get back to basics you have to understand the algorithm the brain runs. There's obviously a lot of factors involved but as it stands the brain has two "reference sheets" it uses to make decisions it has its logic sheet and it's bias sheet. To put it simply the logic sheet is full of things the brain "knows" to be true and false. (Note, it doesn't mean these things ARE true or false, just things the brain percieves as true or false.) The second sheet is bias, which is a similar catalog, only instead of true and false this one deals with 'good and bad'. A basic human thought process runs primarily in this order: Stimulation is received and the brain starts comparing the facts of the situation to it's logic sheet. It then starts coming up with ways to handle the situation based on what it knows is true or false. Once it's compiled a decent list of responses, it compares that list to it's list of bias, to sort through the ones that it would determine to have a "bad" result. Once the optimal response is decided it acts on it. Once the result of their response is determined, it takes any knowledge it gains, either facts or bias, and adds them to it's lists. This entire process usually happens within the span of a second or less, which is why most people aren't even aware of it, but 99% of all thought works in this basic way.

The reason why people end up different all across the board is because each person's lists are full of completely different sets of information, so even though the algorithm is the same across every single human, the variables that go into that algorithm are VASTLY different. The key to trying to understand someone's mental state is to first trying to build a knowledge base of what kinds of things are on these lists for that person.

Now, in the case of someone with a mental illness like Asperger's for example, the algorithm is still mostly unchanged. The actual problem lies within the learning process. Basically what it boils down to is incorrectly reading the results of a decision and creating lists of facts and biases that have no basis in reality.
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The next level is understanding prioritization in the brain. The brain prioritizes comfort, stability and safety over pleasure. This is a basic survival instinct. For example if we were to go back to the early days of humanity as a species, if you were hungry and there was a tree full of fruit outside your cave but you KNOW a bear is stalking around outside, your brain will tell you that the danger of trying to satiate the hunger by getting to fruit is not worth the risk, so it will prioritize suffering with hunger vs. sacrificing the safety of the cave. As we have advanced as a species and more or less removed ourselves from the food chain, this prioritization has since shifted to become the source of many stress related symptoms. The core brain still processes things the way any animal would so it understands stress as danger, even though that isn't really always the case anymore.

Addiction, for example comes from the fear of instability. Essentially what happens is that the focus of the addiction becomes a source of comfort and stability. It's something they know and understand so it's their safe space when they start to feel like they are being overwhelmed or are in unfavorable situations. And like the cave man willing to suffer through hunger to avoid a percieved danger, people will sacrifice their health, wellness and social connections in favor of the safety of the cave, or the addiction in this case.

Cell phones are a unique situation because of the way they function to society. Unlike gambling or alcohol, cell phones have basically become a core part of our lives in society, much like electricity. Being without one can make someone feel isolated, disconnected or even lost in society because they are so used to having that instant connection to other people that taking it away is processed the same way as being suddenly thrust into complete darkness.

So I would not even classify this as an addiction more than I would classify it as a primal fear that has manifested due to the changing of the way society has functioned. This is actually a perfectly normal response to anyone who has lived the majority of their lives with some kind of mobile device in their possession. It can just appear like addiction just like TV addiction used to be considered a thing when TV's were first introduced to the public. Now, plenty of people still consume TV like media, probably moreso than ever before but you never hear anything about TV addiction anymore because it's become such a constant in people's lives that watching copious amounts of media is just considered normal. In about 40 years or so when most of the people who lived in a time where cell phones didn't exist die out, the notion of cell phone addiction will appear as silly as TV addiction sounds to us.

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Fox is literally the guy in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWuyrlXI7nA

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>>346701
Tbh, I was being overly mean to Fox because I was in a bad mood. I just wish he'd stop coming up with these asinine assumptions about things and then parading them around as facts.

At worst, he could at least say something like, "Wait, I'm not sure if I'm correct here but are you saying [insert asinine assumption here]?" so at the very least he could get clarification before making a grand proclamation that he has found the next Hitler.
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>>346703
>Wait, I'm not sure if I'm correct
That bar is too high compared to pretty much everyone else in here.
You are asking him to pretty much be the site's role model.

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>>346704
He has a very long tab to pay back.

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>>346701
Like literally? Its believable.

>>346703
>Tbh, I was being overly mean
I wouldn't say that.
We've all told him to cut it out long enough, and he just blindly keeps acting like a dipshit with an undeserved sense of impunity.
Its like hes a kid poking a dog thats growling at him, and just teasing it more every time then getting all upset when the dog bites him like the dog did something wrong.

Honestly, the meanest thing you could do to him is ignore him, because arguing with him is what he wants, so he can twist your words and frustrate you for fun.

Still reading your other posts btw.
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>>346706
>Still reading your other posts btw.
I'm glad someone did.

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>>346700
>The brain prioritizes comfort, stability and safety over pleasure.

I have seen quite the opposite in nature from time to time.

>Addiction, for example comes from the fear of instability. Essentially what happens is that the focus of the addiction becomes a source of comfort and stability. It's something they know and understand so it's their safe space when they start to feel like they are being overwhelmed or are in unfavorable situations. And like the cave man willing to suffer through hunger to avoid a percieved danger, people will sacrifice their health, wellness and social connections in favor of the safety of the cave, or the addiction in this case.


You could also argue that the bear represents consequences, the fruit represents excitement, and the cave is stagnation.
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>>346712
Well yes. Almost all progress is made by fighting the urge to hide in the safety of what's known to explore the unknown. We call this bravery, because it's facing a primal fear head on and disregarding the alarms in your head telling you to go back. It doesn't mean the alarms aren't going off. You're just choosing to ignore them.

It's something people can do and do regularly. Addiction comes from being too scared to move forward once the alarms start going off and retreating back to what you know is "safe" to you.

>You could also argue that the bear represents consequences, the fruit represents excitement, and the cave is stagnation.


This is a superficial understanding of the factors at play. Consequences are a learning experience and excitement is just a source of pleasure.

Stagnation occurs when the fear of leaving what one considers safe is so overwhelming that they refuse to change anything. The brain requires stimulation. It's "always on" and it needs a purpose. If it doesn't have one it will basically short circuit trying to find one. It's like running a microwave with nothing in it. It needs something to absorb the energy that it's constantly exerting or it will melt down.

This is why people will go crazy when put in isolation. The brain NEEDS things to do or it will break. It's not designed to sit idle like a computer.

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>>346708
They made nudes of that wolf faster than I expected.

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>>346730
It's already a meme.

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>>346732
Hah. So far there's some decent quality ones.

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>>346730

Thank God for the internet.

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>>346697
>>346717
Its an interesting theory, i dont personally know enough to dispute the whole "lists" thing, and it could for sure apply to some people, but i dont think im ready to take that explanation of cognitive processes without some kind of way to prove it beyond observation.
I think you're on to something about facts and bias, but i think that very thing is the crux of why its such a hard subject to study. Everyone has a bias and can only ever experience their own thought process, so i think there is no way to theorise about how it works, without heavy doses of your own influencing your ideas.
I think that may account for a lot of why things in that field tend to change almost completely every few years, because new people enter with new biases.
Most think they are the normal ones, so they are always the bar.
We dont even have a good handle on why or how we sleep, nevermind trying to figure out exactly how consciousness works.

But, myself personally, i dont think its that simple, that there are 2 lists that the brain just compares every time it has a thought like you say. That might apply to some, but i think there is more diversity of thought process between people.
Maybe the very very tip of the iceberg, but i dont think its a full explanation.

Interesting idea though, just how do you prove it?

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>>346744
I don't mean for this to sound creepy but every single person I interact with on a regular basis is part of an experiment I am constantly running.

I build psychological profiles for every single one of you and then try to formulate what your response is going to be to any given post I make, and then I wait for your actual response and compare the two, and then refine the profile until my accuracy rate is around 80%.

Since I can use this system on multiple people and it tends to work at a consistent rate, I'm confident it's a functional theory.

This is why I often edit my posts to the point where it answers the questions people have before they ask them. As soon as I post I re-read what I've written and then formulate responses in my head based on the profiles I have, then I edit the post to address those responses before they occur.
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Tracer Bullet (phone) (ID: f85ae6)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346747

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>>346746
How curious.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 5d9186)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346750

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>>346746
The thing about dishwashers is you still need to scrub the dried on stuff in most cases.
Thats why i think of them more as a dish sanitizer more than a dish washer, because there is sometimes stuff you just cant get off in the dish washer, so you end up scrubing anyway. So, you might as well just hit it all with a brillow pad to begin with and at least loosen it all up.
Its not that much effort, and you dont really need to use soap or anything, just a few passes with steel wool, then toss it in to be sanitized, bada bing, bada boom, your dishes are looking cool as a cucumber.

!CrONAHEG2c (ID: 104de6)Country code: ca, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346751

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>>346667

Probably not worth worrying about, really.

>>346670


Bureaucracy at its finest?

But yeah, I'd make some remark here about only going with referrals from a dedicated family doctor you know you can trust, but even that can be spotty. At least that's been my experience.

>>346689

Pretty much this ^

Get to the root of the issues, don't look at the surface-level problems. But, y'know, that'd require actual work. And thought.

>>346697
>>346700

This was a really useful summation, thank you for writing it.

>>346730
>>346732
>>346736

I still remember the exact second that character appeared in the video, my first thought was: "Oh there is going to be so much porn of her."

Big-tittied goth wolf furry is practically begging for that.

Toybox(Professional Slut)!!Celestia (ID: a9e480)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346754

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>>346750
Yep. This basically ended up being in the 80% range.

Toybox(Professional Slut)!!Celestia (ID: a9e480)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346755

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>>346751
>Big-tittied goth wolf furry is practically begging for that.

She doesn't have hardly any tits in the actual show.

Tr­­­acer Bul­l­et­­­ (ID: c4f7bb)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346756

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>>346755
The fan art will quickly rectify that.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 5d9186)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346759

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>>346754
Don't bullshit me.

Tr­­­acer Bul­l­et­­­ (ID: 104814)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346760

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>>346759
No real way to test against it.

!CrONAHEG2c (ID: 104de6)Country code: ca, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346761

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>>346755
>
>>346756

Although I guess I should've focused more on her hips, come to think of it.

🦊 (ID: d47462)Country code: windows9x.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  346762

>>346689
Thank you.

So your whole point hinges on the assertions that PCU should be only viewed as a symptom and since it can't be a mental illness, you can't be considered gatekeeping. Let's first look at the first part.

The study itself and the term mental illness/psychological disorder does not carry with it a determination on whether or not it's a symptom or cause. Quotes from the study:
>Given the frequency of PSU amongst CYP and its significant association with symptoms of common mental disorders, as highlighted by our review, this relationship and consideration of PSU as a potential causative factor requires urgent further exploration.
>Furthermore, reverse causality cannot be excluded as rationale for the associations found.
>In particular, longitudinal studies are required to characterize the causality of the relationships found in this study between PSU and mental health.
So, a meta study that looked at 41 different studies in the field cannot make an assessment, but you can?

Even if you completely disregard the science, you can ask yourself the questions. "Can reading the numerous articles about a global extinction event increase anxiety?", "Can watching a video about the average American voters make you lose faith in humantiy?" or "Can the easy access of the internet cause poor sleep quality?". I think you'll find it very hard to rule these out as causes. I'm not sure if I should state this, but things can be symptoms and causes at the same time.

You say that people should be tackling the causes of PCU, but that is one of the beneficial outcomes of this kind of research, identifying what are the causes.

>There is already a lot of stigma against psychology being a real science as it is, so when people pull this /mu/ tier bullshit of trying to classify every single song as it's own genre, it makes the entire field look like a fucking joke.

By who? Stupid people? Simplifying things for the sake of simplifying when you don't even have a clear picture is something you shouldn't be doing. And this is another example of gatekeeping.


Now for the dumb philosophy part. It doesn't matter if cellphone use is a mental illness or not in respect to gatekeeping mental health. You're still creating arbritary lines in the sand of what should or shouldn't be included with nothing to back you up.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 5d9186)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346769

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>>346760
I guess im just the type to go on off topic tangents about dishwashing.

I cant be stopped!
I can only be contained!

Tr­­­acer Bul­l­et­­­ (ID: 104814)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346770

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>>346769
Everyone knows you bushwaking mountainmen are extremely clean and tidy.

Toybox(Professional Slut)!!Celestia (ID: a9e480)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346772

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>>346762
Holy shit. Stop. You're just making yourself look stupid.

Tr­­­acer Bul­l­et­­­ (ID: 104814)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346773

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>>346771
I'm sure I can get a good grip at what you'll say next. I'll DM MK what I think you'll say for posterity.

Toybox(Professional Slut)!!Celestia (ID: a9e480)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346774

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>>346759
I'm not. I know you. As soon as you find out something like this your first response is to immediately try to defy the expectations, so the chances of you going on a completely random tangent specifically for the purpose of trying to be completely impossible to predict was actually very high and I expected something of the sort, and you didn't disappoint.
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Tr­­­acer Bul­l­et­­­ (ID: 104814)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346776

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>>346775
Damn, so close.

Tr­­­acer Bul­l­et­­­ (ID: 104814)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346779

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>>346778
Oh well.

Toybox(Professional Slut)!!Celestia (ID: a9e480)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346781

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>>346771
Meanwhile, Z goes with the typical response of, "I'm a special case in this scenario."

And Tracer's response would have been something along the lines of "Okay." with a blank faced image.

Tr­­­acer Bul­l­et­­­ (ID: 104814)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346783

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>>346781
I have no blank faced pictures of Hawk though.

Toybox(Professional Slut)!!Celestia (ID: a9e480)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346784

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>>346783
No, but you have them of the other characters you post. Or that girl dabbing her lips, that's a high contender for that sort of response.

Tr­­­acer Bul­l­et­­­ (ID: 104814)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346786

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>>346784
>Girl dabbing her lips
???

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 5d9186)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346787

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>>346770
My life is basically a Clorox advert.

>>346774
Fair enough, but if i had responded normally it would still have been in the 80% so literally no matter what i did, it would have been expected.
Its not like you would have been like "woah!" if i had just continued the conversation.

>>346772
Stop feeding the animals.

>>346773
You know i got locked out of my discord account right?

Tr­­­acer Bul­l­et­­­ (ID: 104814)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346788

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>>346787
A damn shame, as I said something surely witty and profound.

Tr­­­acer Bul­l­et­­­ (ID: 104814)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346789

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>>346786
Oh her, she's one of the seven images I have on my phone when I'm away from the computer. I don't usually post her while I'm on my computer.

Toybox(Professional Slut)!!Celestia (ID: a9e480)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346790

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>>346786

This one: >>346747

(What's funny about this is that I didn't even register the fact that you used this picture as your response until I went back looking for a post in which you used it, which happened to be a response to my post.)

>>346787

>Fair enough, but if i had responded normally it would still have been in the 80%


Actually no, that would have been highly uncharacteristic of you. You have a habit of running with whatever comes along. For example if someone makes a pun, you will 90% chance respond with a pun of your own. Me telling you I can predict what you're about to say will make you immediately try to think of the most random thing possible to try and make it seem untrue, just to mess with me.

You actually being interested and wanting to know more about it in a serious fashion (At least in the initial response) is completely out of character for you, because the urge to hit the punchline first before going back into more serious conversation is too high for you to resist.
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Tr­­­acer Bul­l­et­­­ (ID: 104814)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346791

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>>346790
>>346790
Yep, basically.

But I've been doing that for the last 8 years, so I'm not too impressed.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 5d9186)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346792

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>>346788
I'll try not to lose sleep over it.
6593

Tr­­­acer Bul­l­et­­­ (ID: 104814)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346793

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>>346792
Do try, it'll be quite difficult.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 5d9186)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346795

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>>346790
Well, yesterday i responded to your pun by saying im going to kick you in your absolute territory, so i guess that must have blown you away.

Wheres all your precious "science" now?

Toybox(Professional Slut)!!Celestia (ID: a9e480)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346796

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>>346795
I actually was surprised that it wasn't until your SECOND response that you replied with a pun, I'll be completely honest. I wasn't expecting it, no.

Never claimed to be perfect.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 5d9186)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346798

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>>346796
But like, most people will jump on the pun train when its leaving the station.
Thats like saying "I've been studying you and find that 9 times out of 10 when you say you're hungry, you get something to eat, very interesting indeed" haha.

Its not exactly a phycological profile to note puns returned in kind.

But, its un falsifiable, so i guess i have to just resign myself to being but a rodent in your experiment.
I want monthly reports though.

(ID: d8d7f2)Country code: amsterdam.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  346799

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>>346794
I know more about you than you think.

(ID: d8d7f2)Country code: amsterdam.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  346800

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>>346798
I normally don't talk about it because the typical response to it is people going "That's bullshit." and trying to immediately poke holes in the theory, so that is why I don't talk about it much.

It's much easier for me to just quietly collect my data without people purposely trying to skew the results.
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Tr­­­acer Bul­l­et­­­ (ID: 104814)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346802

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>>346798
All data will usually have it's own margin of error.

Tr­­­acer Bul­l­et­­­ (ID: 104814)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346803

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>>346800
Well naturally, because it's bullshit after all.

Tr­­­acer Bul­l­et­­­ (ID: 104814)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346804

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>>346801
Said the man posting on a pony based imageboard.

(ID: d8d7f2)Country code: amsterdam.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  346806

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>>346803
I'm not gonna argue it with you.

It's like I said in the beginning, I don't have a degree so no one will believe anything I say anyway.

Tr­­­acer Bul­l­et­­­ (ID: 104814)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346807

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>>346805
Yet you seek to pursue a more pure form of knowledge untainted by losers.

>>346806
Oh good, I thought you were going to bring up religion again for a moment there.

(ID: d8d7f2)Country code: amsterdam.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  346808

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>>346807
Why would I do that?

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 5d9186)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346809

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>>346800
You actually talk about it fairly frequently tbh. Like, at least every time the subject of phycology gets brought up.
Im not saying you're wrong, just that your examples are pretty surface level in this instance.
I would need more than "you like puns" to be convinced you have a deeply detailed phycological profile built around me.
At least any more than any 2 people who get to know each other.
>>346802
Give or take, yes.
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Anonymous (ID: 731bc1)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  346811

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Addiction can both a symptom and an illness as can be any other form of dependency.

Addiction not only can be the symptom of something that it falls in under, but can range with a number of symptoms in of itself.

At the end of the day, you probably have some sort of life impairing mental condition.

>>346746
That doesn't sound creepy, that sounds like a huge waste of time.

>>346762
>You're still creating arbritary lines in the sand of what should or shouldn't be included with nothing to back you up.

So basically psychology as a whole?

Tr­­­acer Bul­l­et­­­ (ID: 104814)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346812

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>>346808
Because I enjoy bringing it up.

>>346809
Especially when it's about human behavior.

>>346810

Incorrect, I'm referring to here.

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>>346809
I talk about how I like it and that I do study it, I just usually don't go into my exact methods.

Also, the primary issue I have run into with you is that I haven't had a chance to observe you in various stages for any meaningful period of time. When you're upset or stressed you tend to leave the board for a while which makes it impossible for me to get all the data I'd need.

You tend to just shut down anything that loses it's casual nature and if you can't you just stop responding.
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Tr­­­acer Bul­l­et­­­ (ID: 104814)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346815

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>>346813
You don't, but you seek it.

Tr­­­acer Bul­l­et­­­ (ID: 104814)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346817

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>>346816
Oh, well might I suggest this one small youtuber who has spent more than 20 years in the pursuit of spiritual happiness. His name I believe is "Steam Twist" but as many wise men he has many other names and titles.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 5d9186)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346820

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>>346814
No, this is at least the 5th time you've talked about gathering data on me as part of an experiment.

>When you're upset or stressed you tend to leave the board for a while which makes it impossible for me to get all the data I'd need.

I've done this all of once, and it was like a week ago, and you didnt even know till today thats why i was gone for a bit.
>You tend to just shut down anything that loses it's casual nature and if you can't you just stop responding.
I try to avoid pointless drama, yes.

Tr­­­acer Bul­l­et­­­ (ID: 104814)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346821

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>>346819
"Yes"

Last I checked he made a video asking another youtuber if his whole life was a mistake or not. And in terms of the internet I think he posts on 4chan.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 5d9186)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346823

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>>346820
>I've done this all of once, and it was like a week ago, and you didnt even know till today thats why i was gone for a bit.

I didn't know you stepped down as a mod. Generally speaking I haven't been focusing much attention on you as far as experimentation goes because to be fair you're one of the more stable posters we have so there's not much for me to go over.

I talk to you just because I enjoy talking to you. You're a fun person.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 5d9186)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346825

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>>346824
>I didn't know you stepped down as a mod.
I didnt though, i just took a few weeks off.

>you're one of the more stable posters we have

I wont argue with that.

>I talk to you just because I enjoy talking to you. You're a fun person.

Aw, thanks.
Thats why i talk to you too.

Tr­­­acer Bul­l­et­­­ (ID: 104814)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346826

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>>346822
Dear Armoured Skeptic

Basically "Hypothetically if magic were real and someone who isn't me studied it for a third of their life and this person this person also it's me"
I have to laugh because he just basically fucks up and admits it's all about him at the end.

>>346823
Too late. Unban Steam so I may entertain myself.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 5d9186)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346828

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Anonymous (ID: 731bc1)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  346830

Tr­­­acer Bul­l­et­­­ (ID: 104814)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346831

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>>346827
Yeah, basically seems to have gone dark.

>>346828
Yes?

>>346829

I'm more unfun.

(ID: d8d7f2)Country code: amsterdam.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  346832

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>>346829
I didn't say that.

In fact I've told you why I like talking to you in the past already.

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>>346833
Literally no one has ever said that.

Tr­­­acer Bul­l­et­­­ (ID: 104814)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346836

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>>346833
>Debating
Too much fun.

Tr­­­acer Bul­l­et­­­ (ID: 104814)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346838

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>>346837
Indeed.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 5d9186)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346841

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>>346830
Sure glad i turned up my volume just in the nick of time.

>>346831
Perhaps, but definitely no.

Tr­­­acer Bul­l­et­­­ (ID: 104814)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346842

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Anonymous (ID: bcfe68)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346854

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>>346842
>pic
Most breakfast cereals are shit nutritionally; they're loaded with sugar and other low-quality carbs and little protein or good fats. So the takeaway shouldn't be "pizza is a good breakfast" but instead "breakfast cereals are so bad nutritionally that even pizza is better than them".

Anonymous (ID: bcfe68)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346858

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>>346455
Screencapped for posterity.

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>>346772
For trying to engage with you, yeah.

!SATSUkIQg2 (ID: 54174e)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  346923

>>346904
go lifen't.

Toybox(Professional Slut)!!Celestia (ID: 469b66)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346924

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>>346904
Literally everyone in this thread thinks you're insane.

Ika's name (ID: 447e39)Country code: mx, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346927

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>>346924
No I don't.

Toybox(Professional Slut)!!Celestia (ID: 469b66)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346928

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>>346925
That's just because you're nice.

>>346927
You just enjoy the fact that he pisses people off.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 210cd5)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346955

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>>346924

See >>346665

But i know what your driving at so ill skip the "nuh-uh" haha.

Ika's name (ID: 447e39)Country code: mx, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346957

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>>346928
I just like him.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 210cd5)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346968

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>>346957
His adversity towards porn and furries in general suggests that the feeling isnt mutual, considering you draw animal dicks for a living. More of an enemy of my enemy kind of thing, when it convenient for him.

But, im sure that now that I've said that, he will be your best friend just to prove me wrong, so you're welcome, i made it happen.

Ika's name (ID: 447e39)Country code: mx, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346972

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>>346968
You overestimate my dedication to proving you wrong.

☲ Prince Ember Storm!MSNowBALLk (ID: b5ab9c)Country code: canadian-red-ensign.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  346976

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>>346968
>he doesn't like furries

Ain't that sweet. Why's he posting on a server that has traditionally been a haven for ponies and furries for nearly a decade if he hates furries lol.
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Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 210cd5)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346978

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>>346972
I didnt say anything about you proving me wrong.

>>346976
Beats me, but i know tagging a thread mature makes it a fox free zone. Unfortunately, if you tag it political and mature, they cancel out. I keep meaning to mention that to zeke.

>>346977

Thats fine, never said you did.
But also, its one thing to have a "difference in opinion" and its another to be an insulting dickhead about it consistently.

(ID: d8d7f2)Country code: amsterdam.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  346980

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>>346977
Having a different viewpoint is one thing.

I have differing viewpoints with you, Mk, Mikie, etc. The DIFFERENCE with Fox here is that he doesn't just have a different viewpoint, he takes YOUR viewpoint and misconstrues it in the most ridiculous fashion possible, and then insists that's what your argument is, and when you try to tell him it's not, he insists on arguing against it anyway, because he knows it's much easier for him to argue with a fictional viewpoint he invented instead of arguing with the actual viewpoint you presented.

It's like if you were playing chess but he decided the game was too hard so he started playing it like checkers instead and when you tell him that's not what you're playing he's busy trying to stack two pawns on top of each other to make a king.

☲ Prince Ember Storm!MSNowBALLk (ID: b5ab9c)Country code: canadian-red-ensign.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  346981

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>>346980
>trying to stack two pawns on top of each other to make a king.

But that's how you play chess though?

Ika's name (ID: 447e39)Country code: mx, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346982

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>>346978
I think you might have some serious short term memory problems.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 210cd5)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346984

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>>346980
^^ this.

And honestly, he knows exactly what hes doing, he never has a point other than to fuck up your day for his own fun.
He likes to be a dick, which is why his "different opinion" is just whatever is the opposite of what he decided yours is.
Half the time his "different opinion" is just "pffffft, your the biggest fucking retard I've ever met"... Oh yeah, real valuable challenge to a world view there haha.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 210cd5)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346985

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>>346982
Ok.

>>346983

Ok.

(ID: d8d7f2)Country code: amsterdam.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  346986

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>>346981
......

>>346983

No. That's not what devil's advocate is. Devil's advocate is looking at a viewpoint that may be seen as objectively unfavorable and trying to argue from it's point of view. That's not what this is.

This is straight up strawmanning. He blatantly misconstrues other people's arguments into things no rational person would try to present and then acts like you're a horrible person for having the point of view he just made up.

☲ Prince Ember Storm!MSNowBALLk (ID: b5ab9c)Country code: canadian-red-ensign.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  346987

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>>346986
You didn't fall for it. Good. It was a spectacular attempt, if I do say so.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 210cd5)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346989

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Honestly, i think if i had just let mikie ban who he wanted to ban, instead of arguing about principals and shit, everyone would be over it by now and our lives would be better for it.

☲ Prince Ember Storm!MSNowBALLk (ID: b5ab9c)Country code: canadian-red-ensign.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  346990

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>>346989
Mikie just wanted to ban a few troublemakers? I wonder who.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 210cd5)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346991

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>>346988
You like drama, so its fun for you to watch the discord he causes, i get that.
But to us, trying to have a legit conversation, its infuriating.

Mikie(phone)!GlimDubEqI (ID: 73e442)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346992

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Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 210cd5)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346994

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>>346992
So i was wrong one time.
Sue me.

Mikie(phone)!GlimDubEqI (ID: 73e442)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  346995

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>>346994
No, you were not wrong. I was going against my own principles which isn't like me.

But, at the same token being hardheaded doesn't get one very far either

METRO5OO (ID: 34c392)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  346998

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>>346995
You’re good peoplz, Mikie

Mikie(phone)!GlimDubEqI (ID: 73e442)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  347000

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>>346998
Thank you.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 210cd5)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  347001

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>>346995
Fair enough.
Well, if his targets, namely you, jigs, toy and I, just ignore the little bastard, hopefully he will just, idk, get a life.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 210cd5)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  347002

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>>346997
I know.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 210cd5)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  347005

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>>347003
Yeah, the reaction pic kind of eludes to that.
Idk, i dont get why watching the people around you be frustrated and upset is fun for you, but i personally dont enjoy being a part of the show.
Like, its nice your having a yuk at my expense, but on my end it fucking sucks.

Mikie(phone)!GlimDubEqI (ID: 73e442)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  347006

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>>347001
Eh, at the end of the day he's just a person on the internet.

The only question I have to ask is why would people spend most of their time trying to makes another person's day worse

That's the question I want to know.

Seems really counterproductive

I prefer civil conversations

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 210cd5)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  347008

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>>347006
Lack of an actual life or opinions to talk about combined with an undying thirst for attention.
Thats my theory.

Ether way, it snowed a ton here and its still coming down, so i gotta shovel before work and leave early to compensate for traffic, so i should get to sleep.

>>347007

Whatever, im not going to argue about it, but i still dont appreciate being the butt of your fun.
To each their own i suppose.

(ID: d8d7f2)Country code: amsterdam.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  347009

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>>346988
I don't like when people make false claims about me.

-Z- (ID: 3e3826)Country code: mlpchan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  347010

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>>347008
>i dont appreciate being the butt of your fun
That's not... what i want...
... sorry if it seems... like that...
>>347009
it happens... people say things about other people... and from my experience, people are going to believe what they want to believe...

for better... or for worse...

Mikie(phone)!GlimDubEqI (ID: 73e442)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  347011

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Ika's name (ID: 447e39)Country code: mx, country type: geoip, valid: 1  347012

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>>346989
Damn you made an entire 180.

(ID: d8d7f2)Country code: amsterdam.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  347013

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For the record, I've never advocated for Fox to be banned, nor do I think he's done anything to deserve it.

In fact, I don't even hate him. I just wish he'd stop doing this bullshit ALL the time.

Thauma (ID: 4d96e2)Country code: tr, country type: geoip, valid: 1  347015

I often wonder how the children I see at restaurants, staring at a smartphone so they stay quiet during their parents' dinner, will end up when they grow up. Just how much their brain will associate good times with that screen, and simply give up looking outside of it entirely.

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 210cd5)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  347017

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>>347013
Im not advocating it ether, im just lamenting the fact that I've stuck up for him so much.
>>347015
I need your discord tag number yo.
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Thauma (ID: 4d96e2)Country code: tr, country type: geoip, valid: 1  347018

>>347017
But why, you already have it?

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 210cd5)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  347019

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>>347018
I got locked out of my account weeks ago.
I've been posting at you but its always hours after yours, because my schedule is all messed up, and our ralph and sam routine is suffering for it haha. I even tried temping you with promises of epoxy stories haha.
I remember the name, i just need the number.

Thauma (ID: 4d96e2)Country code: tr, country type: geoip, valid: 1  347020

>>347019
My silicone moulds started deteriorating :(

#5421

Mk17!!Trixie (ID: 210cd5)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  347021

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>>347020
>My silicone moulds started deteriorating :(
Noooooooooooooooo!

Sent btw, bed sleeps now.

🦊 (ID: d47462)Country code: windows9x.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  347025

>>346980
>he takes YOUR viewpoint and misconstrues it in the most ridiculous fashion possible, and then insists that's what your argument is, and when you try to tell him it's not, he insists on arguing against it anyway, because he knows it's much easier for him to argue with a fictional viewpoint he invented instead of arguing with the actual viewpoint you presented

This point would be really good if it wasn't in a thread that literally has me whining:
>It would be too easy to just clarify your position or refute my interpretation

After the latest clarification I toss everything you've said previously in this thread aside and tackle it as an isolated statement, come to the same conclusion as in my first post and somehow I am holding you to previous statements or denying you from further clarification.

>>346986
>This is straight up strawmanning. He blatantly misconstrues other people's arguments into things no rational person would try to present and then acts like you're a horrible person for having the point of view he just made up.
In not one of these posts have you actually shown an example of this or tried to refute my assessment. It's just you making authorative statements about me doing it, no explanation needed. There must be a fancy term for this action, where one just scoffs at a person and says "look at this ridiculousness" without ever addressing why it's ridiculous, but I can't be arsed to find out.

Oh, and here's an example of me steelmanning what you said:
>>346762
>Even if you completely disregard the science


Since it hasn't apparently been obvious that I welcome clarification and rescinding statements, let me encourage you to do so in the future.

Toybox(Professional Slut)!!Celestia (ID: 9510f0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  347026

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>>347025
I already clarified it and you were like, "Lol, that's what I said." when it obviously wasn't. You seem to be incapable of even understanding the concept. I don't know how else to explain it to you so that your lizard brain can comprehend it.
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🦊 (ID: d47462)Country code: windows9x.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  347030

>>347026
>I already clarified it
If you still stand by your clarifications, and feel free to rescind them, I explained why they're still affirmations of my original accusal without a counter argument. No, saying "Ok. So you're retarded. None of what you said makes any goddamn sense." isn't a counter argument.

>you were like, "Lol, that's what I said." when it obviously wasn't

Where? I genuinely feel like I'm being gaslighted. I don't even understand what you mean. That's what I said you said? That's why I originally accused you? If it's the former, I don't believe I've put any other words in your mouth than the common sentiment of ridicule and insults. If it's the latter, it doesn't even make sense to complain because I accepted and then offered you to reword your thoughts, which naturally changes the structure of my argument.

>You seem to be incapable of even understanding the concept.

What concept?

>I don't know how else to explain it to you

A pretty easy way is to quote something I say and explain what's wrong with it. No, "Ok. So you're retarded. None of what you said makes any goddamn sense." isn't an explanation.

Anonymous (ID: 164a78)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  347034

>>347025
That isn't an example of strawmanning.

Toybox(Professional Slut)!!Celestia (ID: 9510f0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  347035

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>>347030
Okay. Jesus christ. Let's go over your post so I can walk you through this:

>Gatekeeping: When someone takes it upon themselves to decide who does or does not have access or rights to a community or identity.

Literally what you meant:
<What I was GETTING at in my original post before this smooth brained piece of shit decided to open his mouth was that every time they classify every single little thing as it's own separate illness it's going to get to the point where just being alive is considered a mental illness band the term is going to lose all meaning, leaving those who actually need help left with none.


This is all you said, and you no way explained how just copying and pasting my post fits the description you posted in any way, shape or form. You literally just posted a definition, then copied my explanation and said, 'The two are the same' without explaining in ANY way how you came to that conclusion, because to any sane person, my comment and your description do not match in the slightest.

NO WHERE in my post do I talk about anyone having access to rights or community or identity. All I said was that because mental illness needs to be treated with the same respect as regular medical practice, they shouldn't be randomly naming every condition a new type of disorder when there is already previous categories that would cover it. It would be like if instead of having terms like "Virus" or "Bacteria" to cover wide ranges of things that cause disease we just named every single strain it's own individual disease type. It would start to get ridiculous and overwhelming. All science uses this breakdown, whether it be elements, how we categorize species, or how we recognize disease. However in the case of mental illness, for SOME reason, people think it's okay to just just throw this system completely out the window and make a disorganized mess of just random conditions with no correlation to the fact that other conditions may be at play here, despite the fact that is how EVERY OTHER SCIENTIFIC FIELD WORKS.

NONE of this is "Gatekeeping". It's simply, "FOLLOW THE FUCKING FORMAT."
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Anonymous (ID: e1e614)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  347047

>>347035
Don't talk to it.

Tracer Bullet (phone) (ID: b81c1e)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  347052

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>>347047
Someone on the internet is wrong

🦊 (ID: d47462)Country code: windows9x.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  347095

>>347035
>This is all you said, and you no way explained how just copying and pasting my post fits the description you posted in any way, shape or form. You literally just posted a definition, then copied my explanation and said, 'The two are the same' without explaining in ANY way how you came to that conclusion, because to any sane person, my comment and your description do not match in the slightest.
I explained it in post >>346639
I thought it was easy to see the gatekeeping element in it.

>they shouldn't be randomly naming every condition a new type of disorder when there is already previous categories that would cover it

This is like saying that influenza viruses shouldn't have subcategories.
>It would be like if instead of having terms like "Virus" or "Bacteria" to cover wide ranges of things that cause disease we just named every single strain it's own individual disease type.
Here the analogy is "mental illness".
>It would start to get ridiculous and overwhelming.
Chances are, it appropriately is.
>All science uses this breakdown, whether it be elements
Elements are also broken down into isotopes, spinstates, exited states...
>disorganized mess of just random conditions with no correlation to the fact that other conditions may be at play here,
The study literally is for the sole purpose of finding these correlations.

>NONE of this is "Gatekeeping". It's simply, "FOLLOW THE FUCKING FORMAT."

You are gatekeeping scientific progress in this very paragraph so incredibly fiercly for no reason, just because you need it to fit your own personal view of what is allowed. Despite it fitting your requirements (PCU as a mental illness, like a new disease as a virus). In this kind of heirarchical thinking quarks or subatomic particles would've never been allowed, since they don't fit elements. So I ask you this. Even if PCU didn't fit mental illness, why would it be invalid to categorize it as its own thing?

Toybox(Professional Slut)!!Celestia (ID: 9510f0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  347096

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>>347095
>Even if PCU didn't fit mental illness, why would it be invalid to categorize it as its own thing?

Because we already have it. It's fucking called "Addiction."

We don't need "Banana Addiction" and "Cereal Addiction" and "Cell Phone Addiction" and "Shoe Addiction" etc. to all be their own little separate categories.

It's just fucking Addiction. Why is that complicated for you to understand?

Thauma (ID: 4d96e2)Country code: tr, country type: geoip, valid: 1  347098

>>347096
Different addictions work in different ways, lumping them into the same category would not be sufficient.

🦊 (ID: d47462)Country code: windows9x.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  347100

>>347096
We already have influenza, we don't need subtypes. Addictions aren't the same. Even if they were, it would still be beneficial to categorize research associated with it in case future research found that addictions aren't all the same.

What is the downside?

Toybox(Professional Slut)!!Celestia (ID: 9510f0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  347113

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>>347100
>What is the downside?
Okay, I guess you don't have first hand experience with this, so let me explain it to you.

You know how some people like to say there's like 42 different genders, and the 'I identify as an attack helicopter' joke? This is because when you start trying to give every single little minor difference it's own category, people in general stop taking it seriously. As someone who is trans, I hate when people try to "champion" the idea that there are hundreds of genders, because it trivializes my actual issue and makes the majority stop taking people like me seriously.

Since I'm also very much someone who understands the importance of mental health and psychology, seeing the same thing happen to it, where they try to classify a couple thousand different individual 'mental illnesses' to the point where no one can take the field seriously bothers me just as much.

THAT is the downside. It makes the entire field of psychology and mental health look like a joke.

🦊 (ID: d47462)Country code: windows9x.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  347114

>>347113
Instead of being mad at the slavers, I was furious at the prospect of slaves revolting at their masters, for the third party was not kind to our display of liberty.

It is so incredibly sad that instead of learning sympathy from what you have gone through to show support for those that are even less accepted, you instead throw them under the bus so that you may live in comfort.

In my opinion even if these fringe identities weren't (and aren't) in the minds of those who shun them, you wouldn't find legitimacy from them. This is evidenced by the common comparison of just transgendered people being compared with identifying as a helicopter, no deliniation needed.

In fact just like you attempt to diminish the need for categorisation on the basis of 42 genders being too ridiculous, you could just as easily base the need for such diversity off of the vast categorisation in scientific fields.

I also think that this is a flase equivalency. The need for categorisation in one thing doesn't impose any determination on needing it in another. Ultimately you can subdivide any group as long as the parts aren't identical, so it's a function of usefulness whether to do it or not.

Furthermore the sentiment of "no one can take it seriously" is completely anecdotal.

Toybox(Professional Slut)!!Celestia (ID: 9510f0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  347115

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>>347114
Apparently you have no idea how people function. That explains so much, tbh.

🦊 (ID: d47462)Country code: windows9x.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  347118

>>347113
Also, what a cowardly bullshit argument. Don't try to shield yourself behind the opinions of others. It's like if I was asked if women should be able to vote and I answered no, but only because those misogynists would make fun of me, not because it's my actual opinion, totally.

>>347115
And what's that supposed to mean?

!SATSUkIQg2 (ID: 4807cd)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  347119

>>347118
Unironically self-identifying as a toaster will never be congruent to identifying as another real gender. Don't you dare compare someone who does the former to oppressed slaves.
Go lifen't, spurdo sparde.

Anonymous (ID: 42d3fc)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  347125

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>>347100
Except no matter what the addiction is the signs tend to be the same with some give or take.

>Mental distress such as anxiety, depression, even means for a psychological episode.

>Physical dependency which can include flu like symptoms such as vomiting, increased body temperature, and diarrhea; even in some cases such as alcohol: death

From there a specialist on addiction can easily begin to compile a case that suits the needs of the individual.

Kind of like when you get an infection. The doctor isn't going to instantly just know what the heck is going on with your body like some kind of sci-fi high tech medical robot.

>Herp derp we already have influenza


And different strands of influenza can have extremely different effects on the body.

Besides, we already have certain treatments and specialists for more predominant addictions such as hoarding, eating disorder, alcoholism, heroin, and meth amphetamine abuse.

Not everything in the world is systematic, and the needs of a population can be arbitrary as much as that upsets you. Allow me to further clarify, while a the words for a "Cereal addiction" or "Banana addiction" Maybe recorded and properly named, much like how we have a professional word for almost every type of phobia. Don't expect to actually get anymore than an "Addiction specialist" if looking for help.
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Anonymous (ID: 42d3fc)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  347126

>>347119
What if that person actually feels the distress of being a toaster in a human's body? Are you saying that their emotional state isn't as valid as that of a transgendered person?

If anything they have even less of a pool of people to turn to for solace, advice, or help.

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>>347119
>Unironically self-identifying as a toaster will never be congruent to identifying as another real gender.
I don't know enough about gender, but I don't think inanimate objects qualify as gender identities. I'm curious, how do you define a real gender?

>>347125
What's your point? Or rather, where is the contention?

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>>347138
Self explanatory.

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>>347138

There isn't really such a thing as a real gender, or at least not an easy binary. There are, however, sex hormones that we generally associate with the different sexes. Lots of androgens is common in males, you get the general idea. But it's not a binary, which is why you get stereotypes like butch lesbians and gay twinks, people who act contrary to their sexual stereotypes because while they are still their gender, their bodies and brains operate on different levels of hormones than most members of their sex.

Transgendered people happen when the balance between body and brain is thrown out of whack. So to simplify it greatly, let's say the brain is geared for 85% testosterone output and 25% estrogen output. But the body does the opposite of that. That's how you end up with someone feeling like they are "the wrong gender". Now, seeing as we can't really change the brain to match the body yet, the only real long-term solution is to try and make the body fit the brain.

Anyways, the terms male and female are really just human attempts at defining people as being on one side of that spectrum or the other. Making up more genders is hardly a scientific solution to the problem, but likely a result of people struggling to self-identify and not feeling like they fit into the expected stereotypes of those groups. Not malicious, but also not terribly helpful to anyone else, and certainly something that muddies the conversation a bit.

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>>347151

>Not binary


The entire study of human biology would like to have a discussion with you. Human beings have two sexes with hermaphrodites being a mix of the two.

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>>347153

I think you need to read the entirety of the post.

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>>347118
>And what's that supposed to mean?

It means that you're so concerned with the technicalities you don't know how shit works in practice. Yes, every single little problem having it's own specialized catagory would be great, except that people don't actually handle that well. When people see scientists labeling every single personality quirk as some kind of mental image, they're going to think, "These people have no idea what they're doing. They're just slapping a label on everything they see without even exploring it first." and when the public loses interest in what you're doing because they view it as a waste of time, no one is going to bother listening to you.

That's how people work. It's just a fact you need to take into consideration.

Anonymous (ID: e4174a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  347222

>>347171
Maybe you should stop complaining about gay people throwing trans people under the bus then.

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Toybox(Professional Slut)!!Celestia (ID: 2c0904)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  347226

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>>347222
The fuck are you getting this from?

Anonymous (ID: 30eb6b)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  347234

>>347226
I am unsure what you mean by that. Haven't you talked about gay people throwing trans people under the bus while posting that anime scene? Though I'm not entirely sure that was you...

Toybox(Professional Slut)!!Celestia (ID: 2c0904)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  347235

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>>347234
No. At worst I said the LGBT movement is more LGB than T, and we're just along for the ride.

We get the table scraps of their victories.

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>>347171
None of this is an argument against you gatekeeping or not, it's just justifying it with a personal opinion.

>"These people have no idea what they're doing. They're just slapping a label on everything they see without even exploring it first."

That's literally what the meta study is doing, not categorizing it as a psychological disorder, but encouraging more research into the cause/effect relation.

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>>347238
Third party here. I can say without a doubt at this point that they are not gatekeeping and you're reaching to twist the definition to fit your own needs.

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>>347241
What part of advocating for not including more things into a category while dismissing the scientific community on the basis of an unfalsifiable opinion is not gatekeeping?

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>>347247
No one is doing that. You've made that up in your head and are defending it even though pretty much everyone here has told you that's not happening.

You're wrong. Just let it fucking go. Jesus.
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Ika's name (ID: 447e39)Country code: mx, country type: geoip, valid: 1  347258

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You guys are so biased against fox that you can't even understand the points he's making.

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>>347258
I have no bias against any named user here.

I just don't understand those said points.

>>347247
Except nobody has once said anything about limiting categories, rather simply that said categories are already covered under a broader one.

If you check the original posts here and here.

>>346449
>>346454

In response to the link provided by the OP, the original gatekeeping in question is that nobody takes mental health seriously most likely because it sounds outlandish to an outsider.

Now if she was gatekeeping what she would have said instead of "This is why no one takes mental health seriously."

It would have been worded more direct so. "This isn't even a real illness."

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>>347258
What is his point besides trying to lie about me again?


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