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Norway mosque shooting hero: 65yo worshipper tackles gunman Ika (ID: 8ec8cc)Country code: mx, country type: geoip, valid:   325133[Last 50 Posts]

#Politics
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/world/2019/08/12/norway-mosque-shooting-act-of-terrorism/

This is really fucking cool, I'm glad he was able to stop that white terrorist.

Anonymous (ID: a6f4f2)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325134

>commits imoutocide (sororicide)
>enters nearly empty building with guns blazing
>gets taken down by elderly man
lol, what a loser

Toybox(Professional Slut)!!Celestia (ID: 57b3d3)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325135

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You know if you take away that guy's beard he looks strikingly like a slightly younger Tommy Lee Jones.

It can't just be me.

(ID: 4ed114)Country code: at, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325139

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Proper hero material right there.

Maroon Auburn!QEUQfdPtTM (ID: ffa35b)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325140

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Imagine being fully armed with a semi automatic and wearing body armour and you get taken down by an unarmed 65 year old grandad
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Mint horse (ID: 00b85a)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325165

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Isn’t this the second /pol/ attack in a single week?

Well it looks like we’re finally catching up to the Muslims. Things only get more interesting from here lads, to say the least.

Maroon Auburn!QEUQfdPtTM (ID: ffa35b)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325170

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>>325165

Have to kill a whole lot more to match the muslims.

They got the highscore on lockdown

Mint horse (ID: 00b85a)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325172

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>>325170
To be fair we’ve only just started. Besides neither of us truly has the high score.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Las_Vegas_shooting

>Deaths 59


>Injuries 851

(ID: 2dc6be)Country code: at, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325173

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>>325170
>that pic

Hoax, but still funny.

Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: 93d9f7)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325174

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>>325133
Wo would have guessed that a incel that targets unarmed woman and children would be such a huge fucking pussy? Oh, anyone could guess that.
I hope he was savagely beaten into an inch of his life. I hope he get the best medical attention and make a full recovery so that the savage beating can be a weekly event.
And yes, cudos to that man for fighting back. Fighting back is the only way to stop these shit fucks.

>>325165
>>325170
>>325172
Thats cool, i see a lot of "we" and "we're" shit in there, so i assume y'all have some solidarity with this fucking faggot.
You should kindly fuck off.

Mint horse (ID: 00b85a)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325175

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>>325174
I meant we as in a White terrorist. Also to be fair to Maroon he didn’t say we.

Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: 93d9f7)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325176

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Apparently both these guys took down this loser.
>
Mohamed Rafiq and Mohamed Iqbal

They are being treated as Norwegian heros, as they should be.

>>325175
>I meant we as in a White terrorist.
So your a white terrorist?
I hope you slip off the platform in front of the train next time your waiting for one.

Maroon Auburn!QEUQfdPtTM (ID: ffa35b)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325177

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>>325173

Well done captain obvious, good for you to strike again

Maroon Auburn!QEUQfdPtTM (ID: ffa35b)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325178

>>325174

Think you'll find I did not say 'we' was simply pointing out extreme islamists have a far higher kill count than white supremists

Unless you count the holocaust of course

(ID: 2dc6be)Country code: at, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325179

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>>325177
Thank you, always doing my best.

Mint horse (ID: 00b85a)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325180

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>>325176
>So your a white terrorist?
You’re clearly very emotional over this, and it’s quite obvious why you’d want to pin me on this, so I’m not going to argue with you, for both our goods.

I’m just going to apologise for being insensitive. Take that as you will. I’m away out, hopefully I won’t slip of the platform on my way to get the subway.

Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: 93d9f7)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325182

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>>325178
Yeah, the Holocaust was a pretty big one.
You come off as rooting for these folks when this shit happens though.
Why even imply that there is catching up that needs to be done? And that you gotta "kill a whole lot more"?

>>325180
Nice dodge.
How would you tell if im emotional since you always say you cant gage emotions on account of the autism your always on about?
Im not emotional over this, aside from pride in the 2 great men who stopped it.
Im just stating the fact that i hope a large machine hits your white supremacist body before your the next one to do shit like this.
Im also making it clear that your hate and your cheerleading for murder wont be tolerated here.
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Anonymous (ID: 057186)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  325183

>>325174
Don't bring the "incel" lie into this, markie. This was almost a good thread. Don't ruin it by marrying all betamales to muslim-killers.

Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: 93d9f7)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325184

>>325183
I was just using it as an insult, besides, there is no such thing as an incel, only volcels.

Medical conditions aside.

Starshine!Laura/wmXM (ID: e2e75c)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  325185

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Disturbing how commonplace these are becoming.

At least this guy failed pathetically. Eat bear shit, you abject waste of organic matter.

Anonymous (ID: f98f7b)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325187

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>>325175
>I meant we as in a White terrorist.
WTF, man? If you're willing to murder innocent sentient beings or praise those who do, you have no right to claim that you're vegan. Kindly either neck yourself or re-examine your beliefs.

Anonymous (ID: f98f7b)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325189

>>325184
>there is no such thing as an incel, only volcels.
>Medical conditions aside.
I think Asperger's qualifies as such a medical condition, at least for people who don't have the money or opportunity to see a prostitute.

Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: ebd6fc)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325193

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>>325185
The only silver lining i can see in this is maybe maybe people will begin to realize that extremism isnt intrinsic to any one ethnic group.
But then you have the imbeciles who use things like isis as an excuse to hate middle eastern people, while at the same time jerking themselves off when it spawns from their own culture, never realising that, not only are they the same kind of person, but actually worse because they are also complete hypocrites.

>>325189
Nothing about Asperger's syndrome inherently guarantees someone to a life of involuntary celibacy.

Starshine!Laura/wmXM (ID: e2e75c)Country code: ro, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325194

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>>325193
I think the kinds of people who think extremism is intrinsic to any one ethnic group are the same ones who use things like ISIS as an excuse to hate Middle Eastern people, while jerking themselves off when it spawns from their own culture.

If there is a silver lining, I think it's more so waking up the blissfully unaware, well-meaning everyman to the grim reality that this radicalization isn't a joke and is having deadly consequences on an increasingly regular basis. Just a few years ago, it was a lot easier for people to just shroud the beliefs that drive people to this stuff behind a guise of "dark/edgy/offensive humor". Now, with the consequences more visible and impossible to ignore than ever, it's a lot harder not to take this stuff seriously and regard it with the severity it warrants.

Mint horse (ID: 55c959)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325195

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>>325182
I wasn’t trying to dodge, I was baking away before someone (me) said something stupid. I don’t see any point in arguing about this, considering that it will only damage our relationship and make everyone angry.

>Im not emotional over this,

You seem pretty angry about it, which as I said, is understandable.

>Im also making it clear that your hate and your cheerleading for murder wont be tolerated here.

Yeah, and I haven’t done that and don’t plan to.

Sorry, as I said I was going out, but I couldn’t find a good hotspot, so I couldn’t post this earlier. I’m fucking drenched from head to toe in rain. I’m a fucking mess. It’s been raining extremely heavily for just over an hour now, and I’ve been in it that whole time.

At least I didn’t get run over while taking the subway, ha ha.

>>325187
I think people are misinterpreting me. I meant that we are both White, and that’s why I used we. It’s just a coincidence that he happens to be a White terrorist.
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Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: 2402a8)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325196

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>>325194
I think there are a lot of people who are just, as you described, the blissfully unaware, well-meaning everyman, who not because of racism, but simply because of apathy that could accept "there must something intrinsic to these folks that cause so many to radicalize".

Again, not because they are hardcore racists, but because they dont actually care enough to sit down and think about it deeper, and simply see the face value of the situation and want the simplest explanation so they can move on and focus on things that effect them more directly.

Maybe they can now see that these pockets of criminal pieces of shit can exist anywhere at any time.

I think we are saying basically the same thing, just talking about different pieces of the same puzzle.

>>325195
Yeah dude, you are cheerleading for it.

Starshine!Laura/wmXM (ID: e2e75c)Country code: ro, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325197

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>>325196
Well, I would still consider that a form of racism, tbh. But you're right that you don't have to be the "go and shoot up a mosque" kind of hardcore racist to hold a belief like that. Events like these could be a double whammy of a wake up call for people like that.

Anonymous (ID: f98f7b)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325198

>>325193
>Nothing about Asperger's syndrome inherently guarantees someone to a life of involuntary celibacy.
OK, but that's not what I meant to claim. Being an aspie certainly makes it harder to get a sexual partner. Personally I was involuntarily celibate until my late 20s when I managed to get lucky.

Anonymous (ID: f98f7b)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325199

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>>325195
>I think people are misinterpreting me.
Well then you should clear up the matter by unequivocally condemning the actions of the terrorist that this thread is about.

And if you can't bring yourself to condemn someone who tried to murder innocent sentient beings, then you really need to rethink your beliefs.
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Anonymous (ID: fa57a3)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325201

>>325193
>>325185
I'd hope that, but that kind of self awareness doesn't seem to be happening.

Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: 2402a8)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325202

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>>325197
I think people should take care when saying a person is "racist" because, even though they may exhibit 1 or 2 habits that technically meet the definition, dose not mean that its a more than serface level, and to lump them into the same lable is harmful to prospects of their having a moment of self reflection, or at worst make them double down.

I see them as more or less being the person that is concerned about global warming, but still takes a flight or drives a car. Its not an intentional act of hatred to think "whats up with Muslims having all these para military groups and high levels of terrorist attacks" its just the way we are wired if its just a passing concern.
9.9/10 people like that would probably make friends with someone regardless of their ethnicity if given the opportunity.

So yes, by technical definition its rasism, but i think people need to be more careful when adhearing to and clinging on to technical definitions.

>>325198
I didnt get laid till i was like, 23. Sex isnt the most important thing in the world, and the time from birth is takes you to get laid isnt a reflection of who you are, or whether or not it was "voluntary". Its not a math equation.

>>325201
It will take years.
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Anonymous (ID: fa57a3)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325203

>>325202
To be honest, I doubt that most of these people *actually* believe this nonsense. They usually seem to have a lot of their personal self worth invested into the matter and as far as I can tell it's the end product of a lot of painful attempts to rationalize a very irrational world.

That said. I don't see a particular reason to be so generous with them.

Anonymous (ID: f98f7b)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325204

>>325202
>or whether or not it was "voluntary".
Huh? There are some people, like priests and monks, who decide to be celibate. That is what "voluntary" refers to in that context. "Involuntary celibacy" simply means "wants sex but can't get it". I just feel that what you said in >>325184 is inaccurate and also a tad bit insulting:
>there is no such thing as an incel, only volcels.

Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: 2402a8)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325205

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>>325203
>That said. I don't see a particular reason to be so generous with them.
Thats your opinion and i dont agree.

>>325204
Fine, whatever.
I apologise for offending you.
I simply mean that saying "involuntary" implies that no matter what someone does, they will never have the capability to have a sexual relationship, and that simply isnt true.
The person self-loathing themselves as "incel" is perfectly capable of self improvement, and fostering a relationship, if they want to do the work.
So, considering they have the capability, but choose instead to lable themselves as not, and convincing themselves they cant, its a volunteer action, imo.
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Anonymous (ID: 057186)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  325207

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>>325204
With the way things are going, the existence of the label at all does more harm both to these people and those adjacent, than good.

Personal choice is the ultimate factor in whether someone will have sex with you, so in the end, the idea of "I can't get laid but it's not my fault" has no potential for positive social change.

On the other hand, the women who throw out "incel" liberally as an insult to "weak" men also have a share of power in whether or not they get to qualify as "incel," and these same subset of women don't seem to care much that the stigma against all male virginity isn't going away. So even if a man is sex-indifferent to the point where their choice not to pursue sex is voluntary, if they don't get sex de facto as a result of their passiveness, technically that could be stretched into involuntary celibacy and used to invalidate them.
Moreover, the same thing is prone to happen that does with "fascists," where because the scare against incels is so great, no "incel" would ever self-identify as one, calling themselves "volcel" if their virginity is discovered. Thus, all male virgins are "incels" as long as the label has power, and furthermore, even male non-virgins who show telltale traits associated with male virginity in people's eyes will fall in the line of fire as well.

Cynically, it's conceivable that some of the subset of women who love to bash incels and male virginity do so partially because the human brain is sloppy and our heuristics for what's attractive inevitably bleed into our heuristics for determining a "decent person," and so they might feel considerably less empathy for something they're sexually repulsed from in non-dating fields. Par for the course, but in this situation it stands to do a lot more damage even to men who'd be content to leave women the fuck alone like they say they want.
Read: it's possible. I know I'm stretching a bit by inferring intent here, but if there's truth to this it just makes things far more nefarious.

If you say you don't want to bother with women, that's called misogyny; but show a lick of frustration for not getting female company when you do want it, like you're expected to, and suddenly you're a misogyno-terrorist. Damned either way.

Mint horse (ID: c8c513)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325210

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>>325196
>>325199
I wrote out about 8 paragraphs responding to these, but I’d rather not hang up my own noose, so I deleted them.

I don’t think there’s anything I can say here that someone won’t hold against me and get extremely pissed off about, no matter what I say or how I say it, so I’m just going to back out.

Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: e2da99)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325211

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>>325210
You could say that the murder of innocent people in the name of white supremacy is wrong and despicable.

Mythix (pchans supervillain)!wG1CV58ydQ (ID: c16c41)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325214

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That is one one very white beard.

Mint horse (ID: c8c513)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325215

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>>325211
Yeah, that’s what I was going to say, but I wanted to properly explain myself because I thought that other people might think I was being dishonest. But I couldn’t explain myself properly, so I just deleted my post.

I condemn it, not that anyone will care or believe me. I honestly don’t know what to say. Plus I’m still fucking drenched from the rain.
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Anonymous (ID: 8bae9a)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  325216

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>>325211
If it's so universal to disavow a thing considered bad that even the people who nonetheless are grilled and blackballed for "being racists" do it frequently, and their disavowal still has no effect on how tainted they are, I'd call it a meaningless gesture.

A lot of us agree a lot more on the things that are easy to say than you might think, at least on paper. So it'd be redundant virtue signalling at best. I'd call the harder things to say more important, though admittedly there's few of them relevant here.

Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: 2402a8)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325217

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>>325215
Saying you condemn it is a shit ton better than saying "we're catching up, and by 'we' i mean white terrorists".
Which, if you have any grasp of language, strongly suggests "me and my fellow white terrorists".

I think people would just be pleasantly surprised by your growth as a human.

!XSAILBoatg (ID: 2cb36c)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325218

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>>325216 I think that's true. Condemning it changes nobody's mind and fails to address the actual problems. In my opinion, the sorts of blanket disavowals and condemnations that are common after any event like this likely make things worse, because the only options presented to someone who is already on the brink of committing an atrocity are either 1) no change whatsoever because they already don't care what you think or 2) further radicalization.

If you want to stop mass shootings by suicidal gunmen, the solution isn't to condemn the action. The solution is to address why they think they have no viable options aside from doing so. i.e. If you address the suicide part of suicidal gunman then the problem of suicidal gunmen goes away.

But it is easier and feels better to simply say "This is a bad person for reasons X, Y, and Z" - where X, Y, and Z are not the atrocity itself. Someone who is on the brink, who is for whatever reason sympathetic with X, Y, or Z, thus gets pushed further in the direction of committing an atrocity, because merely voicing X, Y, or Z is no longer a viable option. This is also why shutting down speech, including "hate speech", is a problem, because you take away people's peaceful options, leaving them with the worst possible outlets for "voicing" their opinions.

So congratulations, society gets to feel good about itself while virtue signalling and doing literally nothing to address the underlying problems.

Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: 2402a8)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325219

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>>325216
>>325218
You guys understand im talking about mint the individual, not the whole of society right?

!XSAILBoatg (ID: 2cb36c)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325220

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>>325219 Yes. I still don't think it's useful. All you've succeeded in doing is making him shut up about his opinions. His opinions haven't changed. The only difference is that now you can't challenge them.

Anonymous (ID: 057186)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  325221

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Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: 2402a8)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325222

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>>325220
Well according to him, he is of the opinion that this was a bad thing, and is having trouble expressing it.
So I would think that calling someone out when what they are saying is being inturprated as support for the action and supporting someone when they try to show a little empathy, even if it dosnt flip their mind like a light switch isnt "useless".

!XSAILBoatg (ID: 2cb36c)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325223

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>>325222 Perhaps. It depends on whether you think maintaining a sort of polite society is more important than hearing out contrary opinions. As I see in >>325210, he's taken whatever actual concerns and ideas he might have had and simply decided it's easier to let you put words in his mouth. Whether he agreed with you or not on whether it is a "bad thing" as a whole isn't the issue; it's that he had more to say, but he is now prevented both from saying it, thinking it over "out loud" so to speak, and refining it.

Mint horse (ID: 9c41af)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325224

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>>325218
>The solution is to address why they think they have no viable options aside from doing so.
Thank you. I spent a good 10-20 minutes writing out a post about just that, >>325210 But I knew that most people would just have seen this as me sympathising with the terrorist rather than trying to find a rational solution to the problem.

To sum it up, these people believe that their countries are being invaded, and that all of their people, including their friends and family are at risk of being enslaved into some kind of Islamic Caliphate or just outright killed once they become a minority. They believe that once they become a minority the “invader” will show absolutely no sympathy towards them or their people, leading to their inevitable genocide, if they’re lucky enough to be killed.

These attacks are essentially “I’m going to get you before you get me.” These people aren’t bad people, hell even Brenton Tarrant said he wasn’t a hateful person and that he was only doing what he believed to be necessary for the survival of his people. He talks about visiting Europe and later crying about the absolute state of it. These aren’t bad people, they’re just scared people who feel like they’ve been backed into a corner and the only option for them to take is to fight back, or else be killed.

I have no problem condemning the killers actions, but I honestly can’t condemn the killer as a bad person, because I know where he’s coming. I know that he’s just scared and wants to defend his own people.

If you want to stop this you have to convince these people that there is another way out. You’re not going to chance their ideology, but you can convince them that there’s another solution to their problems.

>>325222
>he is of the opinion that this was a bad thing, and is having trouble expressing it.
I hope you understand where I’m trying to come from.

Anonymous (ID: f98f7b)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325225

>>325224
>I have no problem condemning the killers actions,
Good. That is all I wanted to hear you say. From what you wrote in your first posts in this thread, it wasn't clear that you did condemn the would-be murderer's actions.

>but I honestly can’t condemn the killer as a bad person,

That's okay. Evaluating a person (as opposed to an action) as good or bad is honestly kinda a sloppy bullshit concept anyway.

Starshine!Laura/wmXM (ID: e2e75c)Country code: ro, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325226

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Tired: incel
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Anonymous (ID: f98f7b)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325227

>>325218
>>325220
Eh, in general I think you have good points, but in this particular case, I think Mint was just having a hard time communicating.

Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: 2402a8)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325233

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>>325224
I know what your trying to say.
But let me play devil's advocate for a second and try to explain to you why you, as someone who shares these concerns should be more outraged than anyone.

You say you are scared of these cultures subverting your own, and trying to influence yours and you point to things like terror attacks and groups like ISIS to prove your point of them being incompatible with western values. But then, people from your own group and culture turn around and adopt the same cowerdly tactics of terrorising unarmed innocents.
So, imo your battle is already lost since you have willingly stooped to the level, the tactics, and the rhetoric of the part of another culture you claim to be fighting, you have become the worst aspects of what they have to offer, and you've put your own culture in the same category as the worst of theirs, so any difference between you is mearly superficial.

If these people had attacked armed criminals such as Mexican cartels or Muslim rape gangs, you might have a point that it was self defence, but they don't, they ambush and kill innocent unarmed women and children, a coweredly hanious act that is completely unabsolvable, and does more to make you more like what you claim to fight, and dose more to subvert western culture (esp traditional UK culture) than the presence of brown people in your community ever could.

These activities further cement the loss of western culture than they do to protect it, and you of all people should be angered by that and willing to speak against it. Esp when part of your gripe is their unwillingness to do the same.

If your culture is so worth "protecting" maybe it would be worth adhering too as well.

(Btw, by "you" i mean the people in the groups that share your beliefs, not you as an individual, though that does include you.)

Edit:
Basically what im saying is act like a proper Scott and have some damn honor in your community.
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Mint horse (ID: 5da4ae)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325252

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>>325233
Sorry it took me so long. It took an hour for me to walk home, and then when I got there I was locked out for another hour because my mum was out and I forgot to take my key. I ended up sitting in the local park for nearly an hour, eating a bag of Doritos and wishing that my phone wasn’t out of charge, ha ha.

Your problem is that you’re looking at this from the wrong perspective. First of all you’re trying to view a subject problem through a objective lens. This isn’t about good guys and bad guys, or who’s the most moral, or even who can adhere to “Western culture” to the greatest extent, it’s about people’s. For example in WWII there were no good or bad guys, there were simply two sides fighting for survival. The average Brit/German in the trenches don’t have to justify why what he is doing is right, nor is he a hypocrite for essentially being the perfect mirror image, he’s simply fighting for his nation, and if he were German/British his goals, his motivations wouldn’t change. In his eyes if he doesn’t pull the trigger it’ll be pulled on him. In any other situation he would have befriended this German/Brit, but in the trenches he has no choice.

There are no good guys and bad guys in war, there are no hypocrites, there are only the dead and alive. And asking a man to put down his gun while on the trenches because morally “he’s no better than the enemy,” is essentially asking him to commit suicide.

That may seem hyperbolic, but that’s how people like this guy see the situation. If he doesn’t shoot up a mosque full of Muslims his nation will be overrun with them and everyone he loves will be killed, everything he’s ever known will be destroyed. To him morals or hypocrisy doesn’t come into the question, either he kills the happy Muslim family down the street, or in 20-30 years their kids will grow up, rape his daughters and slaughter what’s left of his family. Again that may seem hyperbolic, and I have no doubt that you disagree with everything I just said on a fundamental level, but that’s what these people believe, that’s what I believe to certain extent. It’s why despite the fact that I condemn his actions I feel sympathy for the guy, because he’s only doing what he believes is right, what’s necessary to protect his family and people. And if you want me to brutally honest with you, I respect the Brit/German in the trench, just as I respect guys like this. I condemn all of their actions, but wether they be of my people or not, I can see that they all have good intentions, as misguided and twisted as those intentions may be.

If I was to condemn these guys I’d have to condemn every soldier on the Western Front. Good people can do truly disgusting things.

Nigerian Princess (ID: f98f7b)Country code: pittsburgh.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  325255

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>>325252
>I ended up sitting in the local park for nearly an hour, eating a bag
Did you dry off at least?

Nigerian Princess (ID: f98f7b)Country code: pittsburgh.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  325256

>>325252
>That may seem hyperbolic, but that’s how people like this guy see the situation. If he doesn’t shoot up a mosque full of Muslims his nation will be overrun with them and everyone he loves will be killed, everything he’s ever known will be destroyed.
That's literally insanity. Shooting up a mosque turns public opinion against his views and towards being sympathetic to Muslims. You don't need advanced modeling of human behavior to foresee this, you just need to look at how this sort of thing has played out any time it's happened.

Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: fc1beb)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325257

>>325252
Then you're trying to defend whats already dead.

The mere fact that the people of your white supremacist movement have shirked that of western traditions of righteousness, honor and justice in their grand actions, and lack of disavowing, just proves that the idea of white supremacy in of itself is in this death throws.
We are seeing the lashing out of soldiers with no enemy, tribalism with no tribe and a general confusion and Cognitive dissonance of what their "culture" even is, stands for, or what they are even "defending".

Your not soldiers in a war, or you would be fighting other soldiers. Your scared, confused, irrational left behinds.

This lashing out and killing of the innocent simply proves your kind has lost, and that there was nothing there to defend in the first place.

Your culture is separate from western culture, your an outlier that wont succeed and you know it, and these attacks are a last ditch effort to make some kind of futile stand, and inly serve to cement your own destruction.
You're being left behind because you refuse to keep up, you and isis.
Im happy to watch you destroy yourselves and the merit of your messages, thats the only silver lining here, as i stated before.

If anything this past week of cowerdice has done its to more firmly concrete the average persons feeling of multicultural solidarity.

Nigerian Princess (ID: f98f7b)Country code: pittsburgh.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  325258

>>325233
>>325257
I think Mint's hangup is about """his people""" as a genetic breeding stock rather than a culture.

>>325252
Hey Mint, how would you feel if the UK kicked out all foreign immigrants, but simultaneously all ethnic Britons all converted to Islam? I know this is completely unrealistic, but it is a thought experiment, so please humor me and answer it honestly.
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Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: fc1beb)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325259

>>325258
I do understand that, but he uses cultural differences as a reasoning, so he should know that, culturally and philosophically, his group and that of ISIS is by and large identical and what they are killing each other innocent 3rd parties over is largely the amount of sun tan they experience.
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Mint horse (ID: 1af2ea)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325260

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>>325255
Ha ha, yes for the most part. Although I desperately needed a piss, so I had to go into a small forested area within the park, and my feet were completely soaked because of the wet grass.

>>325256
>Shooting up a mosque turns public opinion against his views and towards being sympathetic to Muslims.
Exactly, just look at New Zealand. It can also get your whole country’s guns took away, as well as your ability to spread your message through the internet. 8chan was taken down because of these fakers, and countless people in Australia and New Zealand have been imprisoned for just watching Brentons video. Now when their glorious race war comes everyone will have already had their guns confiscated and no one will know what’s happening because sites like 8chan and the people that talk about this stuff will have all been shut down.

>>325257
I’m sorry that you feel that way. I’m not dismissing you or trying to insult you, but I don’t want to argue with you if it’s just going to go in this direction. I value my relationship with you more than some stupid argument.

>>325258
I wouldn’t like it, but it would be a massive improvement from what we have right now. Plus Christianity used to be just as barbaric as Islam, so I’d imagine that in time Islam would also liberalise according to our culture.

Race is permanent, cultures, and religions can change, and are surprisingly flexible.
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Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: fc1beb)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325261

>>325260
Again, im referring to "you" as a group, and you even agree with me here:
>>325260
<Shooting up a mosque turns public opinion against his views and towards being sympathetic to Muslims.
>Exactly, just look at New Zealand. It can also get your whole country’s guns took away, as well as your ability to spread your message through the internet.

Like i said, all these attacks have done is delegitimize your movement, and by making light of the situation and not uproariously stating "he dose not act on our behalf" as a group only cements that delegitimization.

If the response to the fear that your families innocent lives are in danger by these peoples existence is to put their families innocent lives in danger, not only is that a losing strategy to your idea, but it also makes you no better than them.

I've heard you critical of the Muslims that refuse to condone and who show sympathy for violent extremists as an argument of why they are different and incompatible, so why turn around and as a group, do it yourself?

Since culturally and philosophically you seem to be in complete agreement, what are you fighting over if not simply the pigment of your skin?
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Mint horse (ID: 1af2ea)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325262

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>>325261
>Again, im referring to "you" as a group, and you even agree with me here:
Yes, thanks, I appreciate that.

>making light of the situation and not uproariously stating "he dose not act on our behalf" as a group only cements that delegitimization.

I’ve not made light of the situation, and outside of /pol/ I can’t imagine that too many people like me have made light of it either. I condemn his actions, but I’m not going to sit here and lie to you by saying that I think he’s a disgusting pice of shit, maybe that’s my bad, but I really don’t like lying to people.

As for our movement as a whole, I don’t really think it matters what anyone says. Everyone will paint us with a broad brush and call us all evil White Supremacists regardless of what we say do.

>Since culturally and philosophically you seem to be in complete agreement, what are you fighting over if not simply the pigment of your skin?

Did you read, >>325252

Although if you want to put it that simply, yes, we are fighting over pigmentation of skin. It’s obviously more complicated than that, but that’s essentially it summarised into a few words.

Also are you feeling alright? Whenever you stop posting Trixe I feel as if either I or something else has upset you.

Anonymous (ID: a6f4f2)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325263

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>>325260
>Race is permanent
What about when genetic engineering of humans becomes a thing? I'm fairly certain that will happen sometime this century.

>>325261
>Like i said, all these attacks have done is delegitimize your movement, and by making light of the situation and not uproariously stating "he do[es] not act on our behalf" as a group only cements that delegitimization.
^THIS

Mint, you really need to very clearly distance yourself from the actions of terrorists.

>>325261
>what are you fighting over if not simply the pigment of your skin?
I think it's something about ancestry or junk DNA or some woo-woo. But for something so central to Mint's ideology, he doesn't really seem to able to explain it very well.
>>325262
Well, Mint? Why does it matter so much to use? If you took a DNA test and found out that you actually weren't ethnically British, what effect would that have on you?

Mint horse (ID: 5da4ae)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325267

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>>325263
>What about when genetic engineering of humans becomes a thing?
I’m agnostic on that, to be honest. But if I had to give you an answer I’d say that they still wouldn’t share the same heritage.

>If you took a DNA test and found out that you actually weren't ethnically British, what effect would that have on you?

Well according to my phenotype (my physical/racial characteristics) I’m at the very least near, if not 100% North Western European. At worst I may have significant Irish ancestry, but I’d doubt even that.

So assuming that I came up as some kind of part French, part German, part Swedish, part Irish abomination I’d say that I’m still genetically close enough to being British to warrant being allowed to stay in the country. I wouldn’t be happy about it, but the difference between the groups I just mentioned isn’t significant enough to cause any real threat. That doesn’t mean I want mass German migration, but I think the Germans that we currently have are more than capable of integrating into British society.

Plus I’m never going to have kids, so the genetic abomination that are my genes would never pass on, ha ha. I wouldn’t mind have a decently sized Black or Muslim population in the country, as long as I knew they weren’t going to have kids.
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Anonymous (ID: a6f4f2)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325269

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>>325267
>some kind of part French, part German, part Swedish, part Irish abomination
Hey, I resemble that remark! ;-)

>>325267
But why does race/ethnicity matter so much to you? What if a bunch of Arab Muslims immigrated to the UK, but they were forcibly converted to Christianity and assimilated into British culture? Why would the presence of those people bother you so much?

Mint horse (ID: 5da4ae)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325270

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>>325269
>Hey, I resemble that remark! ;-)
Well you are American, ha ha. 😊

>But why does race/ethnicity matter so much to you?

That’s an extremely hard question to answer. All I could really say is why does family matter? Race is just your extended family, and love towards ones family is unconditional and therefore can’t really be explained.

>What if a bunch of Arab Muslims immigrated to the UK, but they were forcibly converted to Christianity and assimilated into British culture?

They still wouldn’t be my people, and the idea that they would actually meaningfully integrate into British society is dubious at best.

Would Japan be Japan if it was full of Arabs?
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Anonymous (ID: 6fc5a4)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  325271

>>325262
Pre-the 1100-1800 event, every other group that wrote about them described northern Europeans as the most violent race on the planet, and then... stuff happened.
So there's more to one's genetic potential than the confines of one's broader group.

the virgin race realist vs. the Chad genetic determinist

(ID: b20c90)Country code: amsterdam.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  325273

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>>325270
>Race is just your extended family

No it isn't.

That's absurd.

Also:

>love towards ones family is unconditional and therefore can’t really be explained.


I don't think any love is unconditional. If a family member is horribly abusive to everyone else in their family, there is no reason to love them.

My great grandmother was a completely awful bitch to everyone. When she finally died pretty much nobody in my family was sad about it and though nobody said it out loud, nearly everybody in my family was glad we just didn't have to put up with her anymore.
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Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: 996871)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325275

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>>325262
>I’ve not made light of the situation
>>325165
>Well it looks like we’re finally catching up to the Muslims. Things only get more interesting from here lads, to say the least.
Maybe we have different ideas of what "making light" is.
>I condemn his actions, but I’m not going to sit here and lie to you by saying that I think he’s a disgusting pice of shit, maybe that’s my bad, but I really don’t like lying to people.
I never asked you too, im explaining to you why your movement is on its way toward failure. I've acknowledged that you condemn violence and you've acknowledged that im talking about your group, not you specifically, and i feel like I've made that clear by stating it in almost every post, so why are you taking it personally?

>Everyone will paint us with a broad brush and call us all evil White Supremacists regardless of what we say do.

You're painting yourselves with that brush by saying things that lead to violence and doing nothing about it.

>Did you read

I did, but like i said, you cant compare these actions to a soldier in war defending against invasion because what this is not defense. Like i said, if one of these people actually took on a threat such as a cartel or rape gang, you would have a legitimate case, but they are not, they are attacking a defenseless 3rd party.
Its stolen valor to compare it in such a way, and a soldier fallows orders, they aren't some renegade killing little children.
In a way, these people are fallowing orders though, your orders.

>Although if you want to put it that simply, yes, we are fighting over pigmentation of skin. It’s obviously more complicated than that, but that’s essentially it summarised into a few words.

Its only more complicated than that to someone with little education and an 18th century grasp on what makes a human human.
My skin is darker than yours, if i moved to the UK do i deserve this treatment? Would you condemn but sympathize with my murderer?

>Whenever you stop posting Trixe I feel as if either I or something else has upset you.

Its in your head, ive been working on my car and just typing and posting and getting back to the job at hand.
Regardless, i feel that whether or not i post a reaction picture you are going to attribute emotions to my words that aren't there.
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Anonymous (ID: 49d920)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325289

>>325270
So in your world view are mixed race people just fucked, or do they simply have a bigger extended family?

Mint horse (ID: 5da4ae)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325330

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>>325271
The reason that Northern Europeans were so barbaric in comparison to most civilised people’s at the time is because we were locked off from most of the world, in a small extremely cold (Europe was significantly colder then than it is now) isolated pocket of the furthest reaches of the known world. We had as much genetic potential as all the others people’s of the Mediterranean, but we had no hope of unlocking said potential because of our extreme isolation and bad climate.

>>325273
Race is literally just who you’re related to, that’s all it means. How is that any difference than family, other than that it’s a lot broader.

>>325275
>your movement is on its way toward failure.
I personally believe that our economy’s are going to completely collapse within the next 10-20 years, and when that happens everything else will break down into anarchy. Imagine if the welfare office just stopped handing out food stamps and free gibs one day, imagine if shop selves just weren’t restocked? All of society’s dregs (Black and White) would go absolutely insane and commit mass violence on a scale that you wouldn’t imagine. I’m talking literally millions (if not tens of millions) of the poorest families in your country alone that now have absolutely no source of income meaning that they’ll either simply starve or be forced into a life of constant crime just for survival.

Our economies are fucking joke, we’re in several times more debt than what we actually have, we are draining all of the worlds recourses at a truly terrifying extent, and most people within our societies are going to have absolutely no way of coping with the fact that oil is I a finite resource, water is a finite resource, etc. If just water were to run out it would have a knock on affect that would bring everything else down. You need water to grow crops, you need water to produce oil, which our whole transportation and general electric systems are reliant on. I could sit here and list off a thousands ways that our economies could collapse and why that would bring everything down with it.

This is inevitable, and if you unironically that we’re special, and that we’ve somehow reached “the end of history,” where everything is just going to get better with absolutely no hiccups, you’re extremely naive, to put it nicely. What do you think is going to happen when the welfare offices simply run out of gibs?

I imagine that when this happens, at least in Europe things will break down upon mainly ethnic lines. Most of the non-White population will either have to flee the country, starve or die of disease, or simply be slaughtered by gangs of hungry White men. Things will turn into absolute anarchy and when power finally is restored it will be on a might makes right basis. This isn’t just something I think will happen in my life time, I expect this to happen before I’m 30.

>why are you taking it personally?

Don’t worry, I’m not.

>you cant compare these actions to a soldier in war defending against invasion because what this is not defense.

From their perspective it is.

>if i moved to the UK do i deserve this treatment?

No, of course not, that’s ridiculous. You’re White and part British, besides I don’t believe that most of these people deserve what’s happening to them, which is why it’s so unfortunate. They aren’t bad people, they’re just taking advantage of a opportune situation, it’s just too bad that said situation is my country. They deserve deportation, that’s it.

>Its in your head

Ok, that’s good. Oh, and I’m sorry for assuming how you feel.

>>325289
Yeah, they’re just fucked. They don’t have a people.
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Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: 0659a1)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325332

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>>325330
>Your economic theory.
Based on what, exactly?
The global economy has crashed, in our lifetime, and the world didnt descend into racial chaos.
>What do you think is going to happen when the welfare offices simply run out of gibs?
You would have to tell me because you live on it and i dont. So what will you do?
>I imagine then when happens, at least in Europe things will break down upon mainly ethnic lines.
>This isn’t just something I think will happen in my life time, I expect this to happen before I’m 30.
I dont disagree that its possible, but i think its pure insanity to live your life based on what you imagine will happen and expect your imagination to come true.
You will just be in a long line of doom sayers that weren't right, and wore "repent! The end i nigh!" written in cardboard around their neck.
The few who were right were right by happenstance, like a broken clock.
You have no idea what will happen in the future, and if you did as much research into the topic of global economics as you've done about biology, forgive me for not taking your word for it.
>From their perspective it is.
Its the perspective of a murderous madmen who think the solution to a problem is slaughtering children. I would think you would want to distance yourself from it.
Have you not noticed a trend that your being lead by the criminally insane who simply speculate and have no fundamental understanding of the topics they preach about? Why do you take their words for it?
>You’re White
Thats debatable.
>and part British
I have like 1/10th of Scottish in me, is that all one needs?
>Yeah, they’re just fucked. They don’t have a people.
Getting mixed signals here freindo.
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Mint horse (ID: 5da4ae)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325333

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>>325332
>The global economy has crashed, in our lifetime, and the world didnt descend into racial chaos.
Yeah, back when things were racially homogeneous. Also I’m not talking about 2008, I’m talking about a complete Soviet Union tier collapse.

>So what will you do?

Probably die. Also I’m only 18, and I’ve told you that I’ll likely have a job by the end of the year.

>Why do you take their words for it?

I honestly don’t know. That question is too complicated for me to explain it in a few paragraphs.

>Thats debatable.

What do you unironically buy into the “Italians aren’t White” meme?

>I have like 1/10th of Scottish in me, is that all one needs?

It depends what ones mixed with. The less British you are the more stringent the immigration process would be. So for someone who’s 100% British there would essentially be no immigration process at all. Even if they had never stepped foot in the country their entire life and neither had any of their family members going back literally hundreds of years, they’d still be considered just as British as I am. As long as they weren’t a rapist or something else extreme like that they’d be welcomed. The less British you are the harder the immigration process becomes, although if it means anything I think you’d get in.

>Getting mixed signals here freindo.

Mixed people don’t exactly have an ethnic group to call their own. They don’t have a race, they don’t have a people.

Also did you edit that post just to say freindo, ha ha.
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Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: 0659a1)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325336

>>325333
>Yeah, back when things were racially homogeneous. Also I’m not talking about 2008, I’m talking about a complete Soviet Union tier collapse.
What?
>Probably die. Also I’m only 18, and I’ve told you that I’ll likely have a job by the end of the year.
That doesn't change the fact that you have been supported by welfare the majority of your life.
>I honestly don’t know. That question is too complicated for me to explain it in a few paragraphs.
You should at least ponder it.
>What do you unironically buy into the “Italians aren’t White” meme?
I dont buy into anything, i said its debatable. People debate it.
>Your immigration theory
I think you just made that up.
But i wouldnt want to get into a society like that in the first place.
So, that means a lot of black folks whos ancestors were fucked by their british slave owners, and then once freed lived in england and had relationships with other British people, their descendents have more of a right to be there than me.
A black immigrant who married a britt who then had a child that is 50% brittish, that child has 5x the right to be there than i do. Right?
>Mixed people don’t exactly have an ethnic group to call their own. They don’t have a race, they don’t have a people.
Yeah, its pretty awesome tbqh.
>Also did you edit that post just to say freindo
No, there was a spelling error.

Mint horse (ID: 7bd64d)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325337

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>>325336
>That doesn't change the fact that you have been supported by welfare the majority of your life.
I’m sorry that I was born into a White trash family with a single mum, but that was hardly my fault. The fact that I actually want to get some kind of a job is a massive improvement from my mother and father. I didn’t choose the family I was born into.

>inb4 you can’t blame all your problems on your upbringing

The upbringing that someone has is the most influential part of their life, and I think it can be blamed almost entirely for who someone ends up in most circumstances. The difference is that I’m not just accepting, I plan to do at least something with my life. My upbringing can be blamed on s lot of things, but that doesn’t give me the right to wallow in it.

>People debate it.

No they don’t. That’s literally just a meme, I don’t think more than maybe 1% of people who say that shit mean it unironically or with no nuance.

>A black immigrant who married a britt who then had a child that is 50% brittish, that child has 5x the right to be there than i do. Right?

No, it depends on the mix. It would be extremely hard for anyone with any amount of Black blood to get into the country. In general the immigration higherarchy would go British, North West European, White, East Asian, Indian (of certain casts) or Iranian, Arab, and then other. It would be near impossible for someone in the other category to get in the country, and even then their rights would be restricted.

Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: 0659a1)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325338

>>325337
>I didn’t choose the family I was born into.
No one does, but your still under the impression that they should be held accountable for it.
>The upbringing that someone has is the most influential part of their life, and I think it can be blamed almost entirely for who someone ends up in most circumstances. The difference is that I’m not just accepting, I plan to do at least something with my life. My upbringing can be blamed on s lot of things, but that doesn’t give me the right to wallow in it.
I didnt say, or plan to say, anything like this. This is a line of thinking your imposing on yourself.
I have no problem with your family receiving state assistance, in fact i think its great that they do, i only have a problem with you judging other people for living the life that you have.
>No they don’t. That’s literally just a meme, I don’t think more than maybe 1% of people who say that shit mean it unironically or with no nuance.
Then we have had different experiences. It also dosnt help that my mom is Portuguese.
>Your new immigration theory.
It seems to me through talking to you over the past few months, that there is no real consensus of theory, as what you say seems to change depending on the situation, who your talking to, and what point you are trying to prove.
The fact of the matter is, considering the reach of the brittish empire, and the span of time they spent in other regions, and humans being humans, there are probably black people with more brittish blood than some white people living in the UK.
So essentially, the only solid through line to any of your arguments is "black skin bad, just because".
Considering you have been taught your hypocritical philosophy by degenerate criminals with murderous intent, you might want to think again about reassessing your beliefs, if you want to maintain any moral credibility.
Again, your a vegan who stands fast against degenerate behavior, who also consistently participates in degenerate behavior and condones restricting the right of and "in extreme cases" violently curtailing the population of people simply based on the colour of their skin.
You think gays should be outcasts of society but you have a BF.
You rag on people who receive welfare but it puts food on your plate.
You deplore violence against animals but your sympathetic to child murderers.
You condemn degenerate behavior but you've posted videos on websites of people being literally fucked to death by animals. (Which is also kind of weird on the animal rights front).

I'm not saying you haven't changed or your not trying to improve, but what i am saying is that you're the walking embodiment of hypocrisy when you speak on the subject of your beliefs.
Maybe you should figure out who you are and get your morals straight before blindly fallowing the philosophy taught to you by criminals.

Anonymous (ID: 057186)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325340

>>325338
>You think gays should be outcasts of society but you have a BF.
LP, or someone we don't know about?

Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: 0659a1)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325341

>>325340
LP.
But i would be surprised to find out about more.

Anonymous (ID: 7bd64d)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325344

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>>325338
>i only have a problem with you judging other people for living the life that you have.
My problem is with people who live on welfare well into their 20s, 30s, and in some cases even further despite the fact that they’re perfectly capable of working. My mum has to deal with 2 kids and me with absolutely no help from family or friends. I’m not talking about her, I’m honestly talking about people like my dad who have no responsibilities and just sit around the house all day blowing their government gibs on drugs and alcohol.

>Again, your a vegan who stands fast against degenerate behavior, who also consistently participates in degenerate behavior and condones restricting the right of and "in extreme cases" violently curtailing the population of people simply based on the colour of their skin.

I can’t really argue with this. I am a massive hypocrite, and even I can’t deny that. Doesn’t mean I don’t believe anything or that my beliefs aren’t worth anything, I just means that I don’t live up to them. I could say that society is going to collapse so who gives a shit, but that’s just a post-hoc rationalisation for what I know is bullshit.

>You think gays should be outcasts of society but you have a BF.

My relationship with Losty was always extremely weird. I’d while we both still consider each other friends, I don’t either of us sees each other as “pony bfs” anymore.

>You rag on people who receive welfare but it puts food on your plate.

Again my problem is with people who receive welfare but don’t need it. Some people can’t work and therefore need welfare, but there are a lot of people can work but just don’t, and those people deserve nothing.

>I'm not saying you haven't changed or your not trying to improve, but what i am saying is that you're the walking embodiment of hypocrisy when you speak on the subject of your beliefs.

Thanks I appreciate that. As you’ve said I have made some improvement, and I have no doubt that I’ll continue to improve in the future, but I think I’m always going to have these hang ups regardless of that.

>>325341
You give me more credit than I deserve.

Anonymous (ID: 057186)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  325345

>>325330
>The reason that Northern Europeans were so barbaric in comparison to most civilised people’s at the time is because we were locked off from most of the world, in a small extremely cold (Europe was significantly colder then than it is now) isolated pocket of the furthest reaches of the known world. We had as much genetic potential as all the others people’s of the Mediterranean, but we had no hope of unlocking said potential because of our extreme isolation and bad climate.

Were there any evident hereditary change in them between then and later, I would on the contrary take it as evidence that human evolution can in fact occur over periods shorter than millions of years, and that ethnic groups are in the end ultimately subservient to a greater kind of genetic determinism.

Mint horse (ID: 7bd64d)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325346

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>>325345
Yes, no doubt there was some change, but I honestly don’t think it was too significant. If anything since then I think we’ve probably regressed on a genetic level, due to the fact that a lot of people who would have been cut off by natural selection back then now live well into their 80s.

Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: 0659a1)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325348

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>>325344
>Doesn’t mean I don’t believe anything or that my beliefs aren’t worth anything
It means no one else is going to have time for them, and that, they probably wernt worth much in the first place if the person preaching them wont even adhere.
>I’d while we both still consider each other friends, I don’t either of us sees each other as “pony bfs” anymore.
Fair enough, its your personal deal. But the fact remains that you would judge people negatively for living as you do.
>Again my problem is with people who receive welfare but don’t need it.
And again, you've stated that you plan on going to school, though you have no interest in it, simply to receive the government allowance handed out to students.
You justified it by saying "it was like stealing money from a bank that was going to burn down anyway".
So, again, wouldnt you say its a bit hypocritical, and honestly a bit selfish, for that justification and mindset to absolve you, but not others? You are doing exactly as they do, but saying its okay for you, and not right of them.
>As you’ve said I have made some improvement, and I have no doubt that I’ll continue to improve in the future, but I think I’m always going to have these hang ups regardless of that.
Just the fact that you see moving away from these beliefs as an "improvement" kind of suggests you dont actually agree with them, and simply cling on to them because you feel they have become a part of "who you are".
Which, would honestly explain the hypocrisy, as it is literally the definition.
I think your just doing it out of habit.

Mint horse (ID: 5da4ae)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325352

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>>325348
>But the fact remains that you would judge people negatively for living as you do.
Implying that I don’t judge myself negatively for it? I don’t necessarily view the thing itself as being immoral, just the affect it can have on society if it becomes mainstream.

>And again, you've stated that you plan on going to school, though you have no interest in it, simply to receive the government allowance handed out to students.

That’s not the only reason that I’m going. You only get about £40 a week, assuming you attend every class. I’ll be making more than that, or at least that a day when I begin working. The money is just a cherry on top of the cake. The main reason that I’m going is because my mum is forcing me to go. I didn’t even choose the course I’ll be taking, the school picked it out for me because they think it will be ideal for me. My attitude is I have to go to this thing despite the fact that I think it’s absolute dog shit, but at least I’ll be getting paid. Do you really think I’d go there for £40 a week when I could make in a day doing something that quite frankly will probably be more at least slightly more enjoyable for me? No, but if my mum wants me to go I’ll go, and if they’re paying £40 a week I’ll take it. That’s my attitude.

>So, again, wouldnt you say its a bit hypocritical, and honestly a bit selfish, for that justification and mindset to absolve you, but not others?

Other people don’t have a justification for it, they just see free gibs and take it. Besides, I plan on getting a job, and I doubt I’ll be in college for more than a year. The college thing is literally just to appease my mum because she has some weird fantasy of me going to college working really hard and then later becoming a millionaire or something.

>Just the fact that you see moving away from these beliefs as an "improvement" kind of suggests you dont actually agree with them, and simply cling on to them because you feel they have become a part of "who you are".

I believe in them, but I acknowledge that they hold me back. There isn’t really any point in mr believing in them to be honest, considering that I believe that everything from this point forward is inevitable and that no one can stop it. So I really doesn’t matter what I believe, too bad that I believe this, but I do.

a lost pony !piNKiEPie. (ID: 4349d0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325360

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>>325133
Fuck yeah.

a lost pony !piNKiEPie. (ID: 4349d0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325361

>>325352
Belief dictates reality.

Too bad you're making it inevitable.

Too bad for all; too bad for your muh peeplz. Why do you will their destruction by creating it in your mind.

Mint horse (ID: 7bd64d)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325364

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>>325361
>Why do you will their destruction by creating it in your mind.
I don’t know, maybe I’m a masochist.

Anyway how have you been?
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a lost pony !piNKiEPie. (ID: 4349d0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325366

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>>325364
Masochistic.

You?

Mint horse (ID: 7bd64d)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325367

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>>325366
I don’t know.

Wanna find out?

a lost pony !piNKiEPie. (ID: 4349d0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325368

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>>325367
Not really.

I have chores to do. Dahling.

Mint horse (ID: 7bd64d)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325370

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>>325368
Too bad.

How are your chores coming along?

Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: 3e5b82)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325372

I hope you figure your shit out someday.

a lost pony !piNKiEPie. (ID: 4349d0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325374

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>>325370
Theyre not, while im posting.

Edit:
>>325372
U 2 bruh
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Mint horse (ID: 7bd64d)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325379

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>>325372
Thanks, I’m sure that some day I will. But that’ll probably take awhile.

>>325374
What have you done recently?

a lost pony !piNKiEPie. (ID: 4349d0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325382

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>>325379
Gardnin logistics and work with 2 hour+ each way commute drive 100 miles.

I got this concrete deer for free yesterday in a trash pile on the curb. Its painfully heavy to lift.

Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: 3e5b82)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325383

>>325379
I have doubts

a lost pony !piNKiEPie. (ID: 4349d0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325385

>>325383
Im super disappointed

When i first saw this i thought it said you have "donuts" then i saw it says doubts.

Now i need donuts.

mintys never going to "improve" fyi

Anonymous (ID: 7bd64d)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325386

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>>325382
That’s a really nice looking deer.

What are all those slabs for? Are you building some kind of pound?

>>325383
How so, friendo?

a lost pony !piNKiEPie. (ID: 4349d0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325387

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>>325386
Those are paving stones so we can walk among the future densely-growing vines and herbs. Im getting the italian herbs package, turns out every herb i know personally besides ginger is Italian, ha.

I have hundreds of those paver stones now about 40% moved to the house, moving a small number each trip cuz they weigh a lot. Going to pave under the shed and some walkways. Winter is very wet here.

Anonymous (ID: 7bd64d)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325389

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>>325387
Cool, do you think you’ll have them all set by winter? Also what kind of herbs are you growing?

Toybox(Professional Slut)!!Celestia (ID: 57b3d3)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325391

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>>325330
>Race is literally just who you’re related to

No. it isn't. Genetic relativity doesn't work that way or else two people from the same race having children would basically result in incest, which is incredibly fucking stupid.

You literally have no idea how any of this works and have an 8 year old's view of both race and genetics.

Also:
>Yeah, they’re just fucked. They don’t have a people.

This is also really stupid. Who fucking cares if you have a 'people'? It literally doesn't matter. Your life is yours. I'm white and I don't have a 'people'. I don't even want a people. This notion is absolutely absurd.
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a lost pony !piNKiEPie. (ID: 4349d0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325392

>>325389
Yes i'll have temporary versions of things done in the next month or so, with better construction soon after. Basil, parsley, etc. Digging up a lot of the yard to put in hella crops; tho we are very late many things we're planting are 2-per-year or more here (for example chard n spinach n gooseneck squash) so we'll get some kinda production even putting in so super-late.

Mint horse (ID: 7bd64d)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325394

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>>325391
Meh, I suppose it’s a matter of perspective.

>>325392
That sounds really nice. You’ll have to show me a few pictures of everything when it’s all planted, and whatever you make from it.

a lost pony !piNKiEPie. (ID: 4349d0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325396

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>>325394
I sho u pics of my meat

a lost pony !piNKiEPie. (ID: 4349d0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325397

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>>325394
And my "vegan" black and garbanzo beans with potato in pork roast dregs

(Dont mind the scapula sticking up in there)

Mint horse (ID: 7bd64d)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325398

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>>325396
Hot! Although this thread isn’t mature, so I’d be careful.

>>325397
>pork roast dregs
>"vegan"
Sorry, I’m going to have to push doubt on that one.

a lost pony !piNKiEPie. (ID: 4349d0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325400

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>>325398
All the animals i eat were 100% vegan so i am eating vegan.

Maroon Auburn!QEUQfdPtTM (ID: ffa35b)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325401

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>>325396

Is it time for M E A T S?

Mint horse (ID: 5da4ae)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325402

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>>325400
How would you know what they ate?

>>325401
Yes, show me your near.

a lost pony !piNKiEPie. (ID: 4349d0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325403

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>>325401
Tis always of course.

Alas the Mint is meatless.

a lost pony !piNKiEPie. (ID: 4349d0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325404

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>>325402
The label says they ate vegans.

If you eat me then you too can become vegan.

Mint horse (ID: 5da4ae)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325405

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>>325403
>Alas the Mint is meatless.
Why would you want to eat meat flavoured mints? That’s just weird.

>>325404
I don’t think that’s how it works, you’d have to be vegan, and you’re not so I can’t eat you.

Surly you’d have to eat me if you wanted to become vegan?

a lost pony !piNKiEPie. (ID: 4349d0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325407

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>>325405
Eew no you have not eaten any vegans. Yuck.

Mint horse (ID: 7bd64d)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325409

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>>325407
Well how the hell do you expect to become vegan if you don’t eat any?

Maroon Auburn!QEUQfdPtTM (ID: ffa35b)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325410

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>>325402

S A U S A G E

Mint horse (ID: 7bd64d)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325411

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>>325410
T H I C C !

Nigerian Princess (ID: c04a63)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325413

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Sausage?

Or legs?

(ID: 404ff2)Country code: amsterdam.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  325421

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>>325394
>Meh, I suppose it’s a matter of perspective.

It's actually just plain science. However facts have never mattered to people like you so this is to be expected.

Mint horse (ID: 7bd64d)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325423

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>>325421
Implying that you aren’t more genetically related to people of the same race in comparison to other races.

Nigerian Princess (ID: c04a63)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325424

>>325423
Some black tribes are actually more related to ethnic British than they are to certain other black tribes.

Mint horse (ID: 7bd64d)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325425

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>>325424
Source?

Nigerian Princess (ID: c04a63)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325427

>>325425
You know the widely accepted "out of Africa" hypothesis that modern humans are all descended from a group that left Africa? Well it turns out the Khoisan people diverged from other humans before this migration.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/09/120920141139.htm

I'm gonna try to find more definitive measurements of genetic distance later, but I don't have time now.

Mint horse (ID: 7bd64d)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325432

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>>325427
I don’t see what point you’re trying to make with this.

Anonymous (ID: 057186)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  325434

>>325432
They're suggesting there's more diversity within "Africans" than between any other groups.

But by that token, you'd think one would have different subgroups of Africans that are each about as different from each other as from other races.
Except that's sort of how it already is, and only the ignorant still just lump all Africans or even subsaharan Africans together just because they're "darker," lol.

Toybox(Professional Slut)!!Celestia (ID: 57b3d3)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325438

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>>325423
>Implying that you aren’t more genetically related to people of the same race in comparison to other races.

I'm saying the genetic relation doesn't really matter in any capacity. A black person is no different to me than a white person because the genetics don't actually mean anything in a social context.

It literally does not affect me in any way.

Nigerian Princess (ID: c04a63)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325441

>>325438
>genetics don't actually mean anything in a social context.
Provided that relevant phenotypes are held constant. Genetics greatly influences intelligence and other important personal qualities.

Mint horse (ID: 7bd64d)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325442

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>>325434
Obvious there are differences between Africans, but to claim that said differences are larger than the differences between any African and any European group is ridiculous.

>>325438
This, >>325441

You can’t just seriously claim that genetics aren’t important.

Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: e78ac1)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325443

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>>325442
>>325442
>but to claim that said differences are larger than the differences between any African and any European group is ridiculous.
Why? Its a continent that you can fit almost all others into.
You think there is a difference between germans and English, why wouldnt there be a difference between groups 6x+ the distance?

Mint horse (ID: 7bd64d)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325444

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>>325443
Um... did you read this?
>Obvious there are differences between Africans

I was just claiming that to say any Black person would have more in common generically to a British person than another Black person is ridiculous. The racial gap is a lot bigger.

Nigerian Princess (ID: c04a63)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325446

>>325442
>Obvious there are differences between Africans, but to claim that said differences are larger than the differences between any African and any European group is ridiculous.
It only seems ridiculous if you haven't studied the matter. Go do some basic reseach on the Khoisan and Pygmy people. Physical differences between Bantu African women and Khoison women are at least as great as differences between Bantu women and European women. And researchers have estimated that Khoisan mean IQ is 15 points below that of Bantu Africans, the same amount by that Bantu mean IQ is below that of northern Europeans.

Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: e78ac1)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325447

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>>325444
Thats not ridiculous at all though. North Africa is closer to england than it is to south africa and along the same historic trade routes.
Its would be much easier for a north African to cross the Mediterranean into Europe than it would to cross the Sahara into south Africa.

There was a reason they made you go sit in that building with other kids for 12 years, maybe you missed it, but they were talking about things like history, geography, and critical thinking.
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Ika (ID: 8ec8cc)Country code: mx, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325448

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>>325447
When will you guys give up on this retard?

Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: e78ac1)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325449

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>>325448
When i decide to do something more interesting with my life than lay around all day.

Ika (ID: 8ec8cc)Country code: mx, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325450

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>>325449
You could do me all day.

Nigerian Princess (ID: c04a63)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325451

>>325450
You're gay?

Mint horse (ID: 7bd64d)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325452

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>>325446
As I said there are differences, and I have no doubt that said differences are extremely prominent between certain groups of Africans, I just doubt that any group of African has more in coming genetically with me than even the most dispirit of African tribes. Maybe you’d have a case if you were talking about Southern Europeans, but even then I’d have my doubts.

Besides I’m more interested in European phenotypes. If you were to ask me a question about that I’d be able to answer more accurately, but in terms of Africa I can only tell you that I doubt the distinctions are as big as you claim, although I have no doubt that they can be quite wide.

You should check out this site, it’s really interesting.
http://humanphenotypes.net/

>>325447
>North Africa is closer to england than it is to south africa and along the same historic trade routes.
I thought we were just talking about Black people. Yeah, if you want to include Arabs then you’re right. I can’t exactly argue with you on that one.

Nigerian Princess (ID: c04a63)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325453

>>325452
>I just doubt that any group of African has more in coming genetically with me than even the most dispirit of African tribes.
Well, how much reading have you done on the Khoisan? And if you say zero, that is exactly what your opinion is worth on the matter.

The fact of the matter is that along at least one axis (IQ as measured in units of standard deviation of the European population), African Bantu people are just as distant from the Khoisan as they are from the Brits. And if you think that the Khoisan can't possibly be that low-IQ, keep in mind that IQ measures only *abstract reasoning*, which isn't needed much for hunter-gather tribes. IQ isn't a measure of general mental faculties. The Khoisan do just fine mentally for their way of life, it's just abstract reasoning that they royally suck at.

Edit: In regards to IQ:
"General intelligence may have become universally important in modern life only because our current environment is almost entirely evolutionarily novel. The new theory suggests, and empirical data confirm, that more intelligent individuals are better than less intelligent individuals at solving problems only if they are evolutionarily novel but that more intelligent individuals are not better than less intelligent individuals at solving evolutionarily familiar problems, such as those in the domains of mating, parenting, interpersonal relationships, and wayfinding (finding your way home in a forest without the help of a map or a satellite navigation device) (Kanazawa 2004b). Three recent studies, employing widely varied methods, have all shown that the average intelligence of a population appears to be a strong function of evolutionary novelty of its environment."
https://www.asanet.org/research-and-publications/journals/social-psychology-quarterly/why-liberals-and-atheists-are-more-intelligent
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Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: e78ac1)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325454

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>>325452
>I thought we were just talking about Black people.
I guess the people of Sudan and southern Libya never got the message that they were living in some scottish kids imagination.

Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: e78ac1)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325457

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>>325452
Not only that, but come to think of it the arabs didnt even invade Africa untill well into the years AD ... Like the late 100s sometime.

You know human history is longer than that right?

Mint horse (ID: 7bd64d)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325458

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>>325453
>Well, how much reading have you done on the Khoisan?
Zero, because I think their culture is no more interesting than that of a group of wolves or chimpanzees. Why would I care so much about some random African tribe?

>The fact of the matter is that along at least one axis (IQ

IQ isn’t the only genetic factor that we have to consider when talking about this, there are literally thousands of different factors, IQ being just one of them.

>>325454
Well they aren’t Arab. The difference between Arabs and Whites is no where near as significant as the difference between Blacks and Whites.

>>325457
The Arabs as a genetic and racial group didn’t even exist at that time. For example the Ancient Egyptians would have shared very little in common with the Egyptians of today.
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Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: e78ac1)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325459

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>>325458
>Well they aren’t Arab.
But they live in north africa and they are black... You implied there were no blacks...
This is pointless.

>>325448
Right about now actually.

>>325450
I would!

Mint horse (ID: 7bd64d)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325461

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>>325459
What are you on? You found a handful of Blacks that live at the very edge of Northern Africa. That doesn’t prove anything.

That’s like me talking about Asian people only for you to talk about Chinese people, to which I reply by calling you a retard because I was talking about White Russians that live on the very edge of Asian. When you say North African people are going to assume you’re talking about Arabs, because ~99% of North Africans are Arabs.

Ika (ID: 8ec8cc)Country code: mx, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325462

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>>325459
MAKE ME YOUR CUMSLUT DADDY!!!

Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: e78ac1)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325464

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>>325461
I wasnt trying to prove anything aside from its not unreasonable to think that a population in africa could be closer genetically to Europeans than other africans.
Your the one that said there are no black people in north africa, and forgot human history didnt start 2019 years ago, like a smart person.

>>325462
Im gonna tie you to my radiator you dirty whore!
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Toybox(Professional Slut)!!Celestia (ID: 57b3d3)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325465

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>>325441
Irrelevant. 90% of people are idiots anyway, regardless of race.

>>325442
>You can’t just seriously claim that genetics aren’t important.

I can and do.

Mint horse (ID: 7bd64d)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325467

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>>325464
>Your the one that said
You’re the one that said that the Ancient Egyptians and other North Africans were Arabs in 119AD. The only difference is that I’m not getting really anal about it like you are with your bronze stallion over there.

>>325465
>I can and do.
Considering that I know you don’t fall it the 90% category you were just talking about, I suggest that you do some research. This isn’t some “woke” race realist science, it’s an accepted fact that genetics does to at least some extent determine intelligence.

Toybox(Professional Slut)!!Celestia (ID: 57b3d3)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325468

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>>325467
>it’s an accepted fact that genetics does to at least some extent determine intelligence.

Not to a degree that actually means anything significant enough to care about. This is literally just people wanting to go, 'I'm genetically 1% smarter than you.'

Who fucking cares? Honestly. It's fucking stupid.

Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: e78ac1)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325469

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>>325467
>You’re the one that said that the Ancient Egyptians and other North Africans were Arabs in 119AD.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Go ahead and quote where i said that.
>The only difference is that I’m not getting really anal about it like you are with your bronze stallion over there.
Are you drunk?
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Anonymous (ID: 057186)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  325470

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>>325465
>Irrelevant. 90% of people are idiots anyway, regardless of race.
This is equivalent to saying "90% of people are below my standard for intelligence." You need a frame of reference for it to have any objective worth.

You realize you're toting around a hugely generalized ad-hominem over the whole human race thinking it's a trinket of wisdom like you're frickin Socrates, right? It doesn't matter how you package it, this is fundamentally a >le fedora statement you've chosen to die with.

Nigerian Princess (ID: c04a63)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325471

>>325458
>Zero, because I think their culture is no more interesting than that of a group of wolves or chimpanzees.
(1) Wolf and chimp culture are also worth studying.
(2) I was really referring more to their genetic and phenotypic makeup, not their culture.

>>325458
>there are literally thousands of different factors, IQ being just one of them.
Well you have no evidence about any of those factors other than melanin.

Toybox(Professional Slut)!!Celestia (ID: 57b3d3)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325472

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>>325470
Much like your "All people are selfish animals." statement, hm?


Glad to see we have a lot of double standards going on here.

Nigerian Princess (ID: c04a63)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325473

>>325465
>Irrelevant
What do you mean by that? I for one would much rather converse with someone who has an IQ > 115 than someone with an IQ <85.
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Toybox(Professional Slut)!!Celestia (ID: 57b3d3)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325474

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>>325473
Yet you still post here. Fascinating.

Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: e78ac1)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325475

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>>325474
I lol'ed

Nigerian Princess (ID: c04a63)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325476

>>325465
>>You can’t just seriously claim that genetics aren’t important.
>
>I can and do
Well you're mistaken. It is a well-replicated result that general intelligence is about 60% heritable in developed countries. (In undeveloped countries, environmental factors like malnutrition play a greater role in IQ variation.)
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Toybox(Professional Slut)!!Celestia (ID: 57b3d3)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325477

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>>325476
And? What does this even matter?

Nigerian Princess (ID: c04a63)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325478

>>325469
>Are you drunk?
Evidently drunk enough to want to do anal with a bronze stallion?

Nigerian Princess (ID: c04a63)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325479

>>325477
Well, e.g., it has implications for human genetic engineering.

Toybox(Professional Slut)!!Celestia (ID: 57b3d3)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325480

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>>325479
Oh good. Tell you what, when we start artificially manufacturing humans you can come back and use that as a valid excuse to think you're better than other people.

Mint horse (ID: 7bd64d)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325481

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>>325468
>This is literally just people wanting to go, 'I'm genetically 1% smarter than you.'
Which is why so called “White Supremacists” believe that East Asians and even Jews are smarter than them? It’s not just about “I’m smarter than you of your ethnic group,” there is a real science to it.

>>325469
>Go ahead and quote where i said that.
<arabs didnt even invade Africa untill well into the years AD ... Like the late 100s sometime.

>inb4 but I doesn’t say exactly what you claimed it did.

And I didn’t say “there are no Blacks in North Africa” in those exact words.

>Are you drunk?

I was joking with you. That was my attempt at lighting the mood because things seem to be getting a little too hostile for liking.

Although it’s one of my patented, so no one should be surprised that it feel flat on it’s face.

>>325471
>1
Yeah I agree, but you can’t expect some random person to know or care about it.

>2

My point still stands that you should have no reason to suspect that I’d know what you’re talking about. You should have sent me a link explaining who they are.

>Well you have no evidence about any of those factors other than melanin.

Really? You literally just talked about “phenotypic makeup.” The physical differences between races is a lot more significant than just skin colour.

>>325478
It’s an inside joke. He knows what I’m talking about.
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Nigerian Princess (ID: c04a63)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325482

>>325480
>to think you're better than other people.
Whoa there, I think there must have been a miscommunication somewhere along the line. I don't how where you got that from.

Toybox(Professional Slut)!!Celestia (ID: 57b3d3)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325483

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>>325481
>Which is why so called “White Supremacists” believe that East Asians and even Jews are smarter than them? It’s not just about “I’m smarter than you of your ethnic group,” there is a real science to it.

The degree in which there is a difference is so fucking insignificant that only people who are too insecure about their own intelligence will cling to such a useless statistic just to justify any tiny sense of self-worth.

Toybox(Professional Slut)!!Celestia (ID: 57b3d3)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325484

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>>325482
Literally what other reason could ANYONE ever have to care about something so pointless?

Nigerian Princess (ID: c04a63)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325485

>>325481
>so called “White Supremacists” believe that East Asians and even Jews are smarter than them
Is that so? I thought most white supremacists didn't pay much regard to facts and science and things like that.

Nigerian Princess (ID: c04a63)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325486

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>>325484
>Literally what other reason could ANYONE ever have to care about something so pointless?
<== This

Mint horse (ID: 7bd64d)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325487

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>>325485
That’s why I put quotation marks around White Supremacists.

Anonymous (ID: 057186)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  325488

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>>325472
Since we've done so much rigorous work to taxonomize what we consider "life forms," and our own biological functions are on the whole more similar to the rest of the Animal Kingdom than they are different from them, I'd think the burden of proof is on us to say that we're not an animal.
Arguments that we are somehow different are typically formed in the context of humans doing massively more communication with others within the species than with those without, meaning any exceptional distinction is socially constructed.

"Selfish" just means "not suicidal." No organism has infinite energy at its disposal. If an asocial animal suddenly made a self-sacrifice for the good of one of a different or even its own species, all it would be doing is selecting against itself because the asocial species would never reciprocate this altruism on a large scale. If a species is social, then a community of that species is going to be working in its own self-interest by promoting prosocial behavior within itself.
Selflessness is a component of selfishness, conditionally, but selfishness is not a component of selflessness. The natural selection that produced both Selflessness and Competitiveness inherently has species self-interest built in for any of these traits to evolve in the first place, and so something that contradicts species survival is going to die out a lot quicker than something that doesn't.


Selflessness is just a component of selfishness. Your disdain at being called selfish as anyone else, as if it's an accusation, only reflects how you and others spiritualize altruism as a higher law of the universe, when, in reality, it's more like a single gear. Survival is a higher priority.

Nigerian Princess (ID: c04a63)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325489

>>325481
>The physical differences between races is a lot more significant than just skin colour.
Look here for a pic of a typical Khoisan woman (NSFW):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steatopygia
Looks quite different from the typical black British woman, eh?

Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: e78ac1)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325490

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>>325478
Your guess is as good as mine.

>>325481
>You’re the one that said that the Ancient Egyptians and other North Africans were Arabs in 119AD.
<<arabs didnt even invade Africa untill well into the years AD ... Like the late 100s sometime.
I said literally the opposite of what you are claiming i said.
>Late 100s
500-1000 A.D. btw.
Even if i meant 119 AD i would still be saying the arabs didnt invade africa until late in human history.

>And I didn’t say “there are no Blacks in North Africa” in those exact words.

I never said you did, i said you implied it. Literally meaning you didnt say the exact words but you expressed the idea.
Which you did, here >>325452
>I thought we were just talking about Black people. Yeah, if you want to include Arabs then you’re right. I can’t exactly argue with you on that one.
By implying that because i said north africa, i must have been talking about arabs, not black people. Which, as ive shown, arabs didnt even exist in africa as a substantial group until late in human history, and that blacks do infact populate north africa.

>because things seem to be getting a little too hostile for liking.

White supremacist checklist:
☑Huge pussy

But seriously, i have no clue what your talking about with the anal bronze stallion thing.

Mint horse (ID: 7bd64d)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325494

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>>325489
>NSFW
Yeah a picture like this would have been a bit more appropriate, ha ha.

>Looks quite different from the typical black British woman, eh?

Yes, and as I said, there is a significant difference between groups of Black people, but I doubt the difference is so significant to the point where some are more similar to North Western European’s.

>>325490
>500-1000 A.D. btw.
Sorry, that was just a simple misunderstanding. I thought you were talking about later on in the century. My bad.

>that blacks do infact populate north africa.

Not to any significant extent. We both know that when someone says “North African” the picture they have in their mind is a Tunisian or Egyptian, not some obscure tribe at the bottom of Sudan that is technically in North Africa.

>☑Huge pussy

Ha ha, I like the little tick you added.

>i have no clue what your talking about with the anal bronze stallion thing.

You call Ika your bronze stallion. I was referring to these posts, >>325462 >>325464

Nigerian Princess (ID: c04a63)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325495

>>325494
>more appropriate
No, it would be less appropriate for illustrating the physical differences.

Mint horse (ID: 7bd64d)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325496

>>325495
This one actually shows her face.

Also just wondering, are you new here? I’ve never seen your name.

Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: e78ac1)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325497

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>>325494
>We both know that when someone says “North African” the picture they have in their mind is a Tunisian or Egyptian
Not anyone with a basic understanding of geography.
>not some obscure tribe at the bottom of Sudan
Or, you know, more than half the ~30million population
>Sudan black 52%, Arab 39%, Beja 6%, foreigners 2%, other 1%
https://www.infoplease.com/world/countries/ethnicity-and-race-by-countries

Edit:
Anyway, i meant the northern part of africa which i would also include places like Niger and Chad, because the point was, all these places are closer to Europe than south africa so its not "ridiculous" to think their genetics would have more in common.
I guess i should have said north OF africa.
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Nigerian Princess (ID: c04a63)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325498

>>325496
>This one actually shows her face
But her butt (and specifically the topness of her butt and the 90° angle at which it intersects her back) is the most distinct part.

>>325496
>Also just wondering, are you new here? I’ve never seen your name.
I usually just post anon. And I'll probably go back to posting anon whenever my browser forgets my name.

Mint horse (ID: bf158b)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325502

>>325497
>i would also include places like Niger and Chad
Oh, I thought you were only only referring to Egypt, Lybia, Tunisia, Algeria, and Moroco. I don't evevn think that Sudan counts as a "North African" country. I'm pretty sure that only the countries that boarder the southern side of the Mediterranean are considered North African. Anyway, as you said that doesn't matter because you were just talking about countries that are closer to Europe.

>>325498
>I usually just post anon.
How long have you been posting here?

Anyway I'm exhausted, goodnight!

Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: e78ac1)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325503

>>325502
>don't evevn think that Sudan counts as a "North African" country.
It does.
Which is why i used it as an example when it became about north africa the region.
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obligatory

Nigerian Princess (ID: c04a63)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325507

>>325502
>How long have you been posting here?
Oh, I'm an oldfag. I first came to Ponychan in Feb 2011. I left for a couple of years around 2013 but I've been posting here since efchan died.

Goodnight, Mint!
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>>325506
I might just do it this time.

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>>325511
Gnyghorre.

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So all this time Mint was white trash from a single parent household who lives off welfare? I didn't know that, but it explains a lot. When he hates the caricature of the low IQ non-white freeloader who has no stable place in society, no skills, no hope of moving up or integrating, no real knowledge of Western history, he is disgusted because really he is looking into a mirror.

Why should someone like this be allowed to dictate that my family has no rights? My parents moved here to become doctors and we've never used welfare in our lives.

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>>325515
Oh, he's put this crap out there pretty frequently. You must've popped out of here for a while if you're just now seeing it.

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>>325513
I never though about how that was spelled tbh.

>>325515
>he is disgusted because really he is looking into a mirror.
Seems to be par for the course with people who believe stuff like this.
>Why should someone like this be allowed to dictate that my family has no rights?
They shouldnt.
>My parents moved here to become doctors and we've never used welfare in our lives.
Its funny, because one of my best friends is an indian/Kenyon whos parents immigrated to the UK. One runs an importing company, one is a Dr, and she herself is a teacher and specializes in working with kids with Asperger syndrome and autism, ironically enough.
Its funny to me when the people sitting around, complain that the people working hard are "ruining the country".
According to mint, all his white schoolmates are promiscuous, drug doing degenerates... Yet its my friend and her family that need to leave.

But of course, its not about that, its about "muh people".
But you're right that the irony is palpable, and the hypocrisy thick.

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>>325518
>Its funny, because one of my best friends is an indian/Kenyon whos parents immigrated to the UK
what some people dont realize is that immigration in many ways is a net positive

here in the US immigration is what made us so powerful

people would come and open up their businesses which intern helps the economy in many ways

it's why we have some much good food for example

a lot of immigrants come here with opportunity in mind

no different than a person wanting to move from state to state for new opportunities

at least that makes the most sense to me

i mean most my family are immigrants from europe

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>>325517
I've posted long enough that for most other posters I have a broader picture of their lives by now, but with him I had mostly only gathered that he is very young, spends a lot of time in parks, frequently gets locked out of his house, and knows /pol/ talking points.

I guess I shouldn't have been as surprised as I was.

>>325518
>all his white schoolmates are promiscuous, drug doing degenerates

Reminds me of a documentary I saw about drug addiction in Swansea that made me pretty sad. Politically a lot of those kids seemed similar to him too for some reason. And it doesn't feel like anyone in power right now really wants to help anyone like that.

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>>325515
Screencapped for posterity

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>>325515
>My parents moved here to become doctors and we've never used welfare in our lives.
That’s like moving into someone’s house and then saying “I’m better than you so I should have just as much claim to this building and everything in it.” It doesn’t matter how good you are in comparison to the occupant, it’s not your house. I could probably trace my ancestry in this country back thousands, if not tens of thousands of years, you and your family has only been here for a few decades. I have s birth right to be here, no matter who I am as a person, you however should consider yourself extremely privileged.

I don’t care if you have an IQ of 200 and you’re the perfect model citizen, you don’t have the right to walk into someone else’s family home and act like you own the place. You should be privileged to be allowed in their house and act as a guest, regardless of how much better you are compared to them. This isn’t about superiority or inferiority, it’s about blood and ancestry, a people who have lived here for countless millennial, and another who’ve hardly been here for a half a century. A shit family member is still apart of your family.

Also I should go without saying that I didn’t choose to be born into the family that I was born into. Nor did I choose the no doubt endless genetic flaws that come along with that. But at least I plan to do something with my life, unlike my family.

>>325518
>According to mint, all his white schoolmates are promiscuous, drug doing degenerates... Yet its my friend and her family that need to leave.
To be fair I’m extremely prudish, so a “drug doing degenerate” is basically just some 18 year old kid who smokes weed and drinks too much during the weekend. Although I have no idea what kind of other stuff they do because I haven’t had a friend or went out with someone since I was literally about 11 years old. So for all I know they are doing hard drugs.

>>325522
>what some people dont realize is that immigration in many ways is a net positive
Yeah, but for the most part it does nothing but harm our country. While some contribute positively to the economy, the vast majority take more out than they put in. And even if they were a net positive to the economy (which they aren’t) that doesn’t excuse the rape gangs.

>>325545
>spends a lot of time in parks, frequently gets locked out of his house,
So you’ve been posting for about 4 days recently? That literally only happened once. (Although I do spend a lot of time outside in general)

>Politically a lot of those kids seemed similar to him too for some reason.

Most working and underclass people are what I like to call the “not racist, just don’t like em’” type. They’ll go on for what seems like hours about how the “pakis” are taking over, tell you a hundred and one “facts” about why Muslims are the absolute scum of the earth, and how they’re all child raping pedophillias and terrorists down the last man, and even unironically talk about how the government is trying to replace White people with people form the third world. Essentially everything you’d hear on /pol/, “White genocide” and all. In fact a lot of these people are a lot more extreme than I am. Although after sitting there ranting on about how we have to deport all the “pakis” or they’re going to kill of us and turn Britain into a Sharia Caliphate they’ll spend an equal amount of time telling you about how not racist they are, and that they know a friend of a friend who married a Black man, which means they can’t racist.

That may seem hyperbolic, but I’ve honestly known countless people like this. It’s amazing how they can spew such violent, racist rhetoric only to insist that they aren’t racist. Try to call one of these people racist after a long rant like that and they’ll go into full damage control mode, practically sweating as they tell you how “not racist” they are. The cognitive dissonance is truly a sight to behold.
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>>325670
This convo has become pointless and frustrating to me because all your points are based on your feelings and your imagination.

Mint horse (ID: d2e3c0)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325675

>>325673
Fair enough. Although I I don’t see how what you guys were saying is any less emotional.

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>>325670
>That’s like moving into someone’s house and then saying “I’m better than you so I should have just as much claim to this building and everything in it.”

But the only half-passable argument anyone's ever made for wanting to jealously guard Caucasian genetics and the territory they occupy, is that they're directly responsible for industrializing the world, and since a modern industrial world is the only one worth saving, the type of people responsible must be preserved.
So in a sense, it is "might makes right" in a similar way. Even if there is anything special about Europeans responsible for advanced societies, if that gives them any special rights to be the rulers of anything, then by the same standard, advanced minds of foreign races would have these same rights, and shabby white minds would just be chandalas.


Take away industrial society and there's nothing special left about Europe anymore. It's just unevolved, medieval Germanic barbarian ooga-booga.

Mint horse (ID: d2e3c0)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325677

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>>325676
You obviously didn’t understand a word of what I said. This isn’t about superiority or inferiority, it’s about people’s. Regardless of wether or not my people are superior or inferior to another people I’m still going to tell said people to fuck off.

>Take away industrial society and there's nothing special left about Europe anymore. It's just unevolved, medieval Germanic barbarian ooga-booga.

Yeah, what even was Ancient Rome?

Anonymous (ID: 057186)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  325678

>>325677
>What even was Rome?
A brood of Trojan bastards, raised by wolves, who drowned unwanted newborns in the river, converted to the cucked monotheistic worship of the apocalyptic Hebrew they killed on a stick, and turned down the opportunity to adopt steam power when it was presented to them like the shitmonkeys they were, "because what're we gonna do with all those slaves?"

Fuck Rome and fuck the church. The Achaeans weren't hard enough on Troy.
Electricity. Is. Everything.

Mint horse (ID: d2e3c0)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325679

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>>325678
Are you a troll?

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>>325679
I'm serious.

Any culture that turns down the chance to industrialize has forfeit muh right to exist as far as I'm concerned.

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>>325680
They had no idea what they were turning down. And it’s hardly like it was a unanimous decision.

Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: b54d72)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325694

>>325675
Because our emotions are caused by you wanting to hurt people out of ignorance, where yours are used as an excuse for the ignorance.
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Nigerian Princess (ID: c04a63)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325710

>>325670
>That’s like moving into someone’s house
Presumably Anon's parents immigrated lawfully. So it's more like signing a long-term lease to rent a house. They have every right to be there.

Mint horse (ID: d2e3c0)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325712

>>325710
I don’t have any respect for the current legal system in regards to immigration.

I actually wouldn’t mind having a few highly skilled non-Whites in the country, and if I was in charge there’s a good chance that they’d be allowed to stay. My problem is with mass non-British migration, that seems to have no end in sight. I wouldn’t mind having a stable non-White population of say 2-3%, assuming that I knew it wouldn’t rise.

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>>325712
I will absolutely never understand your fascination with race. It makes no sense to me. What has anyone of your race ever even done for you?

I mean fuck, I'm slightly annoyed by even sharing the same species as the rest of these people, let alone being happy about being the same race. It's a completely arbitrary, completely useless thing to be attached to.

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>>325714
I don’t know. As I’ve said thousand times, it’s not something that can be explained, it’s just something you get or don’t get, you clearly don’t get it.

I don’t have any rational reason for holding the views that I do so strongly, I just do, it’s completely emotional and I can’t exactly explain an emotion to you if you’ve never felt in your life.

Oh, and I also don’t want my country to become a low IQ shithole. Yeah, that ones also pretty important to me.
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>>325716
>Oh, and I also don’t want my country to become a low IQ shithole. Yeah, that ones also pretty important to me

Well if you're basing everything you do and think on emotional kneejerk responses and not logical facts, I have bad news for you.

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>>325718
I’ll have you know that a random IQ test on the internet says I have an IQ score of 129. And I have absolutely no reason to not trust the internet, it hasn’t mislead me so far.
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>>325721
If I knew you were being serious in this post I would be worried.

Regardless, the statistics you're basing your views on is flawed. Like 4 of the smartest people I know are black.

One of them I am currently seeing on a serious level. The fact that you just haven't experienced anything outside of being surrounded by white people has really skewed your view of things. You should take a trip to the US and spend about a week here. I bet you'd see some things you didn't expect.

Mint horse (ID: 5da4ae)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325725

>>325722
>If I knew you were being serious in this post I would be worried.
Sometimes I wish I was genuinely retarded. Then I wouldn’t have to worry about being smart and self aware enough to realise how pathetic I am, but nowhere near smart enough to do anything about it.

>4 of the smartest people I know are black.

Yeah but that’s just personal anecdote. You realise that the average Black IQ score is only 85, right?

>You should take a trip to the US and spend about a week here. I bet you'd see some things you didn't expect.

I plan to do a lot of travelling when I have the money for it, and to mostly non-White countries. China, Japan, Thailand, Indian, places like that. Although I suppose I could also come to America and maybe even meet up with some people from this site. Have you guys ever done a proper get-together where you all (or a group of >4) meet up for the weekend or something? That could be fun and I’d definitely attend if possible.

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>>325725
Fuck, I keep forgetting Minty.
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>>325725
>>325725
>Sometimes I wish I was genuinely retarded. Then I wouldn’t have to worry about being smart and self aware enough to realise how pathetic I am, but nowhere near smart enough to do anything about it.
The only thing pathetic about you is your willingness to be a slave to your percieved genetics.

>Yeah but that’s just personal anecdote. You realise that the average Black IQ score is only 85, right?


I don't believe this for a second. Even if this was found to be true it would probably be a highly skewed statistic because the people in Africa probably have relatively bad education, meaning they will score lower and bring the average down despite the problem being concentrated in a singular area and not representative of the majority.

>>325725
>Have you guys ever done a proper get-together where you all (or a group of >4) meet up for the weekend or something? That could be fun and I’d definitely attend if possible.

I went to Anime Expo with Tracer, Nezi and Z recently. But unfortunately that isn't how the US works. I know you're from the UK so you probably aren't able to grasp the a scale of the US, but "meeting up for the weekend" is practically impossible.

To put it in perspective, my state alone is bigger than your entire country. To drive from the top of California to the bottom would easily take you 10 hours. I'm going to be driving with my mom to Tennessee in about a month and a half and it's going to be about a 5 day trip.

If I were to try and meet up with Z in New York I would either have to take a plane or spend and entire week just driving to get there.

There is none of this "just hopping to another state for the weekend" thing. It doesn't happen here because it's completely impractical.
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Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: 66f900)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325729

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>>325728
Hey! Im going to Tennessee next week.
That sucks, we're just missing each other.
What part are you going to?

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>>325729
I have no idea. My mom is moving there and I'm going to make the trip with her and then fly back.

Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: 66f900)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325733

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>>325730
Oh wow, thats big.
Hopefully you will get to see a bit of Appalachia.

So are you keeping your current apartment or are you finding a new place too?

Nigerian Princess (ID: c04a63)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325735

>>325722
>Like 4 of the smartest people I know are black.
The set of people you know isn't a random sample of the population.

>One of them I am currently seeing on a serious level.

Do you mean "seeing" as in "romantically dating"? I thought you didn't do that type of thing?
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>>325728
>There is none of this "just hopping to another state for the weekend" thing.
Speak for yourself.

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>>325733
Nah. Our rent is like $2,300. We're moving because we can't afford to stay here anymore. I'm probably going to be moving slightly further south near Bakersfield, since it's cheaper.

That's also where my boyfriend lives. So there's that. We're not moving in with each other though, cause neither of us are ready for that.

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>>325735
I would be willing to say "dating". In the loosest sense of the word possible.

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>>325737
>That's also where my boyfriend lives
I knew that "I don't do relationships" thing was all talk.

Nigerian Princess (ID: c04a63)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325740

>>325725
>India
Don't breathe the air or drink the water in India.

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>>325739
Eeeh...

I'm not sure where I stand on that. This is the first time I've ever felt this way so I'm still trying to figure it out.

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>>325741
Well good luck.
Also
I fucking called it.

Nigerian Princess (ID: c04a63)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325743

>>325728
>I don't believe this for a second.
The mean IQ of African Americans was 85 at some point in the last few decades. Education doesn't really influence adult IQ. Childhood exposure to lead (Pb) certainly does negatively impact IQ. If you doubt, look into the peer-reviewed psych literature.

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>>325742
Basically this is the first time I've been able to hold a conversation with someone and not feel like I had to explain half of what I'm saying a second time, which is a new experience for me.

So we kind of work well.

Nigerian Princess (ID: c04a63)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325745

>>325730
>My mom is moving [to Tennessee]
Doushite?

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>>325745
What part do you not understand?

She is changing her place of residence to someplace in the state of Tennessee located in the Midwest United States.

I'm not sure how I can make this more clear.

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>>325742
>>325741
>developing feelings

Disgusting,

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>>325747
Hey, I never asked for this. You know how much this ruins my street cred?

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>>325716
>I don’t have any rational reason for holding the views that I do so strongly, I just do, it’s completely emotional and I can’t exactly explain an emotion to you if you’ve never felt in your life.
Did you ever consider WHY you have these emotions about race, ethnicity, and ancestry? There is a whole science dedicated to the study of human emotion and stuff, and you might profitably try some introspection. Or make an appointment with a psychologist if you can't do it by yourself.

Nigerian Princess (ID: c04a63)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325752

>>325746
I don't understand the motivation for picking Tennessee as opposed so some other state that is more culturally similar to CA. Or even just moving somewhere in CA with a less expensive CoL.
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>>325737
>Our rent is like $2,300
Jesus fuck. That's more than twice the mortgage on my house.

But yeah, it makes sense to move in that case, sucks youve been priced out, but cool that you will be closer to the BF.

>>325739
I call maid of honor at the wedding!

>>325744
Dawwwwwwwwwwwwwwewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

But seriously, im happy for you, thats fucking awesome.

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>>325752
She has family there. Her brother and step-mom live there.

Mint horse (ID: d2e3c0)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325755

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>>325728
>I went to Anime Expo with Tracer, Nezi and Z recently.
Cool, I hope you guys had fun. When and where was that?

>I'm going to be driving with my mom to Tennessee in about a month and a half and it's going to be about a 5 day trip.

Are you going to meet up with family or is it some kind business thing?

>There is none of this "just hopping to another state for the weekend" thing. It doesn't happen here because it's completely impractical.

Sorry, I suppose I wasn’t thinking of how hard that would be. That’s like me hoping down to Russia just to spend the weekend with a few friends.

Still it would be nice if a good number of us could meet up somewhere. Although the planning would probably take longer than the event itself, as well as the travelling. Too bad we don’t have more UK posters that I could meet up. Hopefully Maroon will be up for doing something like that with me sometime.
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Anonymous (ID: d278e0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325756

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>>325748
kek read that in angel dust voice.


Too late.
If this can actually happen to you, that means there's a slight .0000000000000000000001% chance it could happen to me.

Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: 84ceac)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325760

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>>325755
>Still it would be nice if a good number of us could meet up somewhere.
You said you wouldnt even go get a cup of coffee with me if i went to Scotland and now you want international meet ups?

Nigerian Princess (ID: c04a63)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325761

>>325760
Does Mint drink coffee?

Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: 84ceac)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325762

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>>325761
He might enjoy the smell.

Anonymous (ID: d278e0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325763

>>325761
more than likely not, unless its vegan.

Ika (ID: 8ec8cc)Country code: mx, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325764

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>>325760
If you visit the nazi white trash before you visit me, your amazing mexican friend who is super cool and awesome I would never forgive you.

Mint horse (ID: d2e3c0)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325767

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>>325760
What? I said I’d meet up with you if you came to Scotland, but that I couldn’t meet up with you in England. And I wasn’t talking about an international meet-up that’s going to happen next week, this is something that could happen years down the line.

>>325761
I prefer tea. Why do you ask?

>>325764
Jealous.
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Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: 84ceac)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325768

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>>325764
You literally said you would never allow me to visit you haha.

I think i ask you about it at least once every other day.

Ika (ID: 8ec8cc)Country code: mx, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325769

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>>325768
Excuses!
Put more effort into it instead of conforming with visiting literal trash.

Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: 84ceac)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325770

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>>325769
Ill visit who i want, when i want, and how i want!

Anyway, who said there would be survivors?

Ika (ID: 8ec8cc)Country code: mx, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325774

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>>325770
I decide who survives and who doesn't.

Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: 84ceac)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325775

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>>325774
Can i be one of the ones that doesn't?

Please?

Ika (ID: 8ec8cc)Country code: mx, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325777

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>>325775
Yes but only because I like you.

Mk17(p-hone)!!Trixie (ID: 84ceac)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325789

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>>325777
You're a good friend!
Lucky trips too!

Nigerian Princess (ID: c04a63)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325791

>>325767
>Why do you ask?
I was thinking you might have declined Mk17's suggestion of meeting up for coffee simply because you dislike coffee. Seems like something someone autistic might do.
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Mint horse (ID: d2e3c0)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  325794

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>>325791
Ha ha, yeah I could definitely see an extremely autistic person doing that, but I’m not that bad.

I don’t know what Mk is talking about. I told him I couldn’t meet him if he went to England, and then he said that he might be coming to Scotland and I said I’ll meet up with you if possible.

Anonymous (ID: 98e760)Country code: ca, country type: geoip, valid: 1  326015

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>>325670
>>325716
>I don’t care if you have an IQ of 200 and you’re the perfect model citizen

>I also don’t want my country to become a low IQ shithole


So what do you want that is of any substance or consistency?

 >>325725
People were talking earlier about how diverse Africa is. Well this also applies to cognitive ability. Africa has a massive population, and much of what we know about the mean IQ of large sections of the continent is inaccurate because the scores come from estimates and not direct testing. For those areas directly tested, poor health and infrastructure, and poorly conducted tests that are several decades old at this point, obviously depress scores.

The problem with using the mean score is also that it wipes out all understanding of nuance. Breaking things down by ethnicity might be a little more helpful. Lumping in all of black Africa causes one to miss the fact that there are groups whose mean IQs have already surpassed the white mean.

 http://www.unz.com/article/the-iq-gap-is-no-longer-a-black-and-white-issue/

I know you're not likely to read all of this, but the main takeaways are:

-- There are differences in mean IQ between individual African ethnic groups that are as large as the difference in European and African means.

-- African and Carribean immigrants score higher than African Americans, so clearly having white admixture isn't helping the latter as racists claim it should.

-- Nigerians in particular are some of the highest achieving people in the UK and US. They score 21.8% higher on the GCSEs than the white mean and have some of the highest levels of educational attainment of all groups. There is a 0.81 correlation between GCSE scores and IQ (where 1 is a perfect correlation and 0 is none).

-- When you break it down ethnically, Igbo Nigerians score higher than even the Chinese. Non-emigrant Igbo also outperform other ethnic groups even in their own country, so their high performance can't be chalked up entirely to selective immigration policies in the UK. Some groups from elsewhere, like Krio and Luganda (among others), also score higher than the Chinese.

-- Racists suggest these are statistical flukes from the far end of the bell curve and that the children of intelligent blacks see their scores regress from the highs of their parents, but that is not what is happening with these ethnic groups.

-- The Yoruba and Igbo (who collectively number nearly 100 million, so they can't each be dismissed as being some random isolated tribe whose success has no larger implications) have lived in the most urbanized part of Africa since the 1100s. Obviously their scores are going to be very different from a mostly rural tribe in, say, central Africa. But the test scores and estimates that form the basis of our present understanding (largely from the 1960s and 1970s) don't really take any of this into account.

-- London schools over the past 15 years have come to outperform other cities around Britain in the GCSEs largely on the backs of the scores of three groups: Chinese, Indians, and Black Africans.

Anonymous (ID: 76958c)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  326016

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No people of dark skin allowed.

Anonymous (ID: 057186)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  326018

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>>326016
>"Dropping nukes on the spooks"

Anonymous (ID: a6f4f2)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  326046

>>326015
Considering recent evolutionary pressure, I think it should come as no surprise that there are black populations in Africa that are significantly more intelligent than African Americans. For the past few hundred years, higher intelligence was of little use to negroes in America. But in Africa, it could easily make the difference between life and death. And immigrants are naturally of the upper end of the curve. So it wouldn't surprise me if the black immigants to Britain are significantly higher than the black African mean, even equal to the ethnic British mean.

a lost pony !piNKiEPie. (ID: 4349d0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  326374

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So, the very idea that there is a lot more going on in our gene pool than melanin is ridiculous then, mint horse.

Simply stupid to say skin color is the most significant genetic difference between people. Why, all we'd need is to postulate the gene that controls melanin also controls IQ and we'd have a rightist scientific proof of white supremacy.

Yes superior asians and jews also lack melanin. Supremacy of non-dark genetic marker confirmed.

Lame.


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