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Hey guys. (ID: fd14fe)Country code: tux.png, country type: customflag, valid:   243269Locked[Last 50 Posts]

Im not sure how well connected you are to New Zealand. But if you know anyone in Christchurch, can you check in on them, and ask if they are ok?

Recently we had a terror attack,
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Maroon Auburn!QEUQfdPtTM (ID: 733b30)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243280

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Is it just me or has Christ Church been through some real hard shit in the last couple years?

Really feel for your people.

(ID: fd14fe)Country code: tux.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  243282

>>243280
Oh no, they have.

Multiple earthquakes almost leveled the place, there are parts that are unlivable a few years on, earthquake proofing is causing all sorts of havoc, and then this.

PonyStark (ID: bd3977)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243289

Oh God this is just awful.

PonyStark (ID: bd3977)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243290

Sick fucker even livestreamed it.

(ID: fd14fe)Country code: tux.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  243293

>>243290
Ilegidly there is a recording of it. But please dont watch it. Just report the video and move on.

Chewy!!Twilight Sparkle (ID: c0a5c4)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243295

>>243293
>>243290
I couldn't stop myself and I went and found a 57-second webm that showed some of the murders. It wasn't as horrifying as I was expecting, but only in the sense that the footage wasn't very clear, like there wasn't splattering blood all over or something, it was just the gun firing at people and them falling over kinda blurry-ish.

Still ngl it made my heart race even just to see that and there's no way I could watch the entire video which is apparently like 17 fucking minutes long.

Maroon Auburn!QEUQfdPtTM (ID: 733b30)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243298

>>243293

Well new Zealand has placed a blanket ban on live leak and 8chan to try and stop people finding and watching the video.

But as well know once something is on the internet it will never go away.
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Zeke Roa (ID: 705f8a)Country code: stallman.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  243333

I haven't really talked to him directly in a long time but I'm friends on Facebook with someone from a forum I used to be active on who's from New Zealand, and it looks like he made a post ~4 hours before yours referencing it.

Snowbell (ID: 80e713)Country code: pittsburgh.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  243334

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Clips of the vid can be seen on /k/ along with the dude's manifesto and in-depth critiques on the dude's clearly shit taste in AR's.

Nezi!Neziwi/5.M (ID: 496b89)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243336

>>243334
where, I can't find the thread

Mint horse (ID: 057efe)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243343

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First of all I'd like to preempt this by saying that I obviously think what happened is horrible, and I don't condone it.

This is definitely unfortunately, but not very surprising to be honest. The only thing that I'm shocked by is where it happened and the fact that this didn't happen years ago.

Things like this are going to (unfortunately) become a lot more common as time goes on, trust me. There'll probably be a few revenge attacks for this one.

Ok I just watched the whole thing and I'm going to give a little synopsis for everyone who's not willing or able to watch it. I won't provide any links, but you can find the guys manifesto and video on 8chsns /pol/, it's the first thread with over 500 posts, entitled "Uncensored Breton Tarrant footage.

The first 6:30 of the video is just him driving in his van, listening to music. At approximately 1:10 the infamous remove kebab anthem starts playing. (I'm not going to lie, I was literally laughing out load for the whole time that song played. Legitimately the funniest thing I've ever seen in my life. Here's a YouTube link to the song, REMOVE KEBAB (perfect loop)) At approximately 3:10 the music cuts and we get to see the guys face, the music beings again at 3:45 and stops at 4:50. Then ssmome kind of British patriot song starts. (I've heard it, but I don't know its name) he leaves his car at 6:00, (the music stops when he walks away from his car) grabs a shotgun and some kind of automatic assault gun, (the guns have slogans like remove kebab written on them) and then begins to approach the mosque. Just 30 seconds after leaving his car he approaches two Muslim men who appear to be talking in Arabic. He shoots both the men immediately with his shotgun. One man dies instantly, the other tries to crawl away, (he leaves a long trail of blood as he crawls) only to be shot with his automatic gun. (He throw his shotgun away, presumably because it ran out of bullets) Both men are dead within 10-15 seconds of the shooting. From 6:50-7:05 several people are killed in various rooms surrounding the entrance of the mosque. People are running and screaming in Arabic. At 7:05 a Muslim man accidentally bumps into him in the mist of the confusion. (he was running for the main entrance) He is dead by 7:10. From 7:10-8:10 he begins shooting at anything and everything that moves. At this point there are piles of dead bodies in the hallways and in several rooms. He shoots everybody, ensuring that there are no survivors. At 8:10 one of the few survivors runs for the main entrance. He almost makes it, but is shot dead with the automatic weapon that by this point has been reloaded countless times. 8:10-8:45, he shoots the dead bodies for a few seconds before heading for the main entrance that he came in. 8:45-9:50, he shoots someone while running to his car. 9:40, he grabs another automatic gun from his car. 9:40-12:00, he runs back into the mosque, killing a few people both during his journey to the mosque and inside of. He then runs back out of the mosque, and at 12:00 a Muslim woman in full burka is seen lying at the side of the road in extreme pain screaming "Help me, help me!" He doesn't even flinch, he walks up to her casually and kills her. (This is what one Anon on /pol/ had to say. I obviously don't endorse this. "kek there's in the video a muslim pig bitch on the ground crying HELP HELP, 10 seconds later she gets headshotted.. these are the muslims") By 12:20 he is back in his car. Random music starts playing. 13:10-13:25, he shoots out his window with a new shotgun and kills one/two people (one killing is off camera, the other is clear) 13:25-14:20, nothing happens, he just drives casually as music plays. 14:20-15:20, he laughs and brags about all the people that he killed. 15:20 a police siren I head and he immediately goes quiet and beings to drive significantly faster. 15:10-16:05, nothing noteworthy happens as he drives away from the police siren. 16:05, he begins talking about the attack again.

My link just "403"ed. I saw the whole video anyway, but it's kind of disturbing that it just disappeared while I was watching. Anyway nothing else happens between 16:05-17:10. It's just him talking about the attack.

Edit;I feel like I should also talk about how surreal the whole thing was. When I watched it my mind instantly thought of several games such as Call of Duty, because that's exactly what this looked like. (But with better graphics) Everything from the movement, the way the camera is presumably strapped to his head, (giving us a perfect first person view) to the gentle sound of Islamic music playing in the Mosque, practically scream "first person shooter."

At moments you could almost be tricked into thinking that you were watching gameplay footage for the next Call of Duty game. Just an interesting observation.


Here's a link to his manifesto.

https://media.8ch.net/file_store/26ec71f261105d3b60bc4ffef3806a0d11ea5f45c3775a0aa3adacdf6aae8ef3.jpg

I'm going to read the full thing with a cup of tea later on, I suggest that everyone else does the same.

He claims to be a Eco-Fascist, and calls out the Jews aswell as Capitalism. He also talks about the fact that he had nothing against those of other races or religions, he just wants a homeland for White people.

>What do you want?

>We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children.

>Why do you blame immigrants and not the capitalists?

>I blame both, and plan to deal with both.

>Green Nationalism is the only true Nationalism


>The nation with the closest political and social values to my own is The People's Republic of China.


>To Turks

>You can live in peace in your own land, and may no harem come to you.
>But if you attempt to live in European lands, anywhere west of the Bosphorus. We will kill you and drive you roaches out of our lands. We are coming for Constantinople, we will destroy every mosque in the city.
>FLEE TO YOUR LANDS WHILE YOU STILL HAVE THE CHANCE!

>Globalised Capitlist markets are the enemy of radical Autonomists


>Were you taught violence and extremism by video game, music, literature, cinema?

>Yes, Spyro the dragon 3 taught me ethno-Nationalism. (Mfw Spyro the dragon 3 was my favourite game as a kid, and now I'm a "ethno-Nationalist." I'm not even kidding, I loved that game when I was a kid.) Fortnite trained me to be a killer and floss on the corpuses of my enemies.
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Nezi!Neziwi/5.M (ID: 496b89)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243344

>>243336
>>243334
oh nvm I forgot 8chan had a /k/ board too

Mk17 (p-hone) (ID: 854da0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243345

>>243343
Its people who think like you that propagate acts like this.

Mint horse (ID: 057efe)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243347

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>>243345
It's not my fault that this happened, and I obviously wouldn't do something like this.

(ID: 08f28b)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243348

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/pol/ is seriously a really bad cancer

im starting to see more what starshine means at this point

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>>243343
Holy fuck this guy is fucking insane. Like needs to be completely locked up and not ever let out insane.

The fuck is wrong with people like this? Holy shit. Has he at least been caught/killed yet?
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Starshine!Laura/wmXM (ID: cdcc5c)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  243352

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>>243345
Harsh but true.

I hope this incident will be the right kind of wakeup call for people going down that path. These extremist ideologies are like gingivitis. It doesn't always progress to periodontitis, but all periodontitis starts as gingivitis.

Mk17 (p-hone) (ID: 854da0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243353

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>>243347
I never said you commited the act yourself, but your mindset and your message do inevitably lead to these actions, so yes, i consider all people who spread the meassages that you do somewhat responsible.
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Nezi!Neziwi/5.M (ID: 496b89)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243354

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Am I crazy for not caring about any of this? Crazies commit mass shootings all over the world. It's an uncommon thing but a reality.

Sometimes crazies get their hands on guns and people die. Big whoop.

Obviously it sucks to be the ones that died and I wish it hadn't happened but there's no use talking about it for hours.

idk just me I guess

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>>243354
I don't see you making threads with other things to talk about.

=J= (ID: cf4526)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243356

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>>243354
This. Mass shootings of any type are no more meaningful than car crashes.

Nezi!Neziwi/5.M (ID: 496b89)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243357

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>>243355
I'm not saying it's annoying or anything to see people talking about it, it just seems pointless to me.

I'm not sure what else you might be trying to infer by that comment so you'd have to spell it out for me.

>>243356
Bingooooooooo

Maroon Auburn!QEUQfdPtTM (ID: 733b30)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243358

>>243343

The call of duty thing is interesting to note. Already seen quite a few screenshots with 'call of duty: New Zealand' written on them and seen a few 'remember- No Russian' memes relating to the shooting too.

Is this not the first time a mass killing like this has been livestreamed in a first person view for the world to see?

>>243345
>>243347


You have a point.

I mean, my hands are raised. I myself have no problems with saying I am anti muslim and believe islam has no place in first world modern countries and society but obviously this kind of act on innocent unarmed people is fucking disgusting and a true act of evil.

Mint while I know full well you yourself condem this act like any other sane and normal person should.. But you have admitted to everyone you are a literal nazi and all.

And you already know my own hatred of the nazis.
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>>243357
Most of the stuff we talk about here is pointless.

It's entertainment value, for the most part. Discussing things with people is fun, even if the topics are mostly irrelevant. I just don't see why you would pick this topic as being pointless out of the countless other pointless threads on this site.

Anonymous (ID: 38128a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243361

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>>243354
The difference in a case like this is the man had a manifesto. He wasnt killing people simply because he is crazy, he was killing because he is an ideologue.

I'm sure he planned to martyr himself, but thankfully that didnt happen.

But your right, things like this are just a fact of life that will always remain. The reasons may change, but there will always be people to do the dirty work of people who preach hate, and there will always be people ruining lives for selfish reasons.

Luckily, it doesn't happen all that often.

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-Mk17
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>>243361
>I'm sure he planned to martyr himself, but thankfully that didnt happen

Why not? If he killed himself at the end of this, at least he would not be at risk of doing it again.

Nezi!Neziwi/5.M (ID: 496b89)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243364

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>>243361
>He wasnt killing people simply because he is crazy, he was killing because he is an ideologue

So...he was crazy.

Normal people don't kill other people no matter their beliefs.
They're called religious "extremists" for a reason.

If you kill another human being that you've never met before on purpose, you're crazy.

=J= (ID: cf4526)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243368

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>>243364
>If you kill another human being that you've never met before on purpose, you're crazy.
This definition would make soldiers insane too tho. If you're doing it for your own convictions instead of the will of your own selfish society, suddenly you're schizophrenic and not noble. It's a really dumb double standard.

Starshine!Laura/wmXM (ID: cdcc5c)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  243370

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>>243354
>>243356
These crazies don't start out as crazies. They get radicalized by shitholes like 8/pol/ who are very, very eager to see more stuff like this happen.

Car crashes are accidental. These attacks are deliberate and are part of a movement trying very hard to propagate itself. It's basically white ISIS. The amount of parallels are unreal. "Destroy everyone else because otherwise they'll destroy us."

Muslims are not even their only despised group, and this isn't the first attack of its kind. The synagogue shooting was less than 6 months ago, Dylann Roof is a fairly recent memory, Anders Breivik was an early high-profile example.

These all had different targets, but they have something crucial in common: ideology. They all chugged so much far right kool-aid that they felt compelled to take action against the people "invading" "their" land, or the people facilitating that "invasion". All fueled by a paranoid belief in "white genocide" or the "Great Replacement". The dude literally cited The Great Replacement in his thread on 8ch before going out and doing what he did, and before he did, could you have picked him out from a crowd of "ironic" /pol/ shitposters? These beliefs are not a joke or meme. They're genuinely dangerous and violent and have tragic real world consequences if people fall too deep into them.

Nezi!Neziwi/5.M (ID: 496b89)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243371

>>243368
I kept trying to rephrase it to exclude any specific scenarios, I knew I'd forget something. Semantics aside, my point stands outside of various logical exclusions like wartime.

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>>243368
Your views continue to worry me more and more.

Anonymous (ID: 38128a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243373

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>>243362
I'm sure he wont be getting out of prison, so ether way, I dont think he will be in a position to do something like this again.

But its better that his pathetic capture be the case, rather than him being shot down as a "hero" to people who share his warped view of the world.

>>243364
>So...he was crazy.
Yes.
>Normal people don't kill other people no matter their beliefs.
But they do. What is considered "normal?". If someone would have learned of this guys intentions and killed him to stop him, would they be considered crazy?

If people stood up and fought back in the face of an oppressive regime, would they be crazy?

By this logic, every revolution on earth would be considered "crazy". Which I guess you could make the case for, but we are in pretty deep.

I don't see this guy as being "crazy" in the generic sense.
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-Mk17 /)_-
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Nezi!Neziwi/5.M (ID: 496b89)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243374

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>>243370
Again though, normal people don't get sucked into this stuff and care about it.

I consider myself very normal and could not give two fucks about /pol/.

>>243373
see >>243371

You lot are missing my point because you're stuck on exclusions to the rule.

>but what about this specific logical scenario!


I'm not talking about that, I'm quite clearly talking about killing someone you've never met for no overarching reason other than you wanted to because of personal reasons.

I think you lot are far too argumentative, I'm posing a simple scenario and you're racking your brain to dissect it and argue everything except for what I've tried to exclaim. Now I'm losing interest quite fast as it's ridiculous to look this deep into a simple statement and take it so literal.

Adios. Too much nonsensical debate for my tastes.

=J= (ID: cf4526)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243375

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>>243370
To be fair, I'm biased against having personal fear of white terrorists the same way I don't fear ISIS: they're not a solid establishment with a strong infrastructure and compounded power. Direct action like this is a sort of proxy for the general will, and becomes an even closer proxy the more these beliefs organically spread.

When you come to the point where you feel you need to take action just against ideas spreading on their own merit for fear of the consequences, that sets up a big fat flaming fucking red flag in my head. This kneejerk fear that the general will would destroy the world if allowed to rise on its own merit can only amount in more authoritarianism and you should never feel save when the powers that be start trying to hobble your ability to freely assemble.


Terrorism is just the last available pathway to express deep foundational criticism.

Anonymous (ID: 8e5157)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243377

>>243349
If he's not been caught I'd give him a few hours, at best. People already know his name.

Personaly the most intresting part was when the Muslim women in full burka was screaming for help, only to be casualy shot. The guy didn't even flinch, he just walked up to her and gave her a few bullets. .

>>243353
Fair enough.

>>243354
No, I feel the same way and I watched and gave a review of the whole 17 minute long video.

To be honest I felt everything from uncontrol laughter when the remove kebab music started, to excitement, to mild amusement. So you're probably less sociopathic than me.

>>243356
This has political motivations behind it, and it could lead to other attacks, or political/cultural change all over the west.

>>243358
I found a Doom parody of this where the classic Doom music was playing, and every time someone was killed one of the classic Doom catchphrases like "Epic kill!" would play.

My phone is playing up for some reason, meaning that I have to use my Xbox to type. It's very hard. Mint horse. This came out like a big mess, the Xbox dosen't work properly when on chans. My phone sometimes does this, it turns off when out off charge and won't turn back on for about an hour. It's weird.
Mint horse
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Mk17 (ID: 38128a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243383

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>>243377
>To be honest I felt everything from uncontrol laughter when the remove kebab music started, to excitement, to mild amusement. So you're probably less sociopathic than me.
You should re-post this with your name attached, unless you're a coward.

Anonymous (ID: 705f60)Country code: cascadia.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  243384

>>243377
i think its time to stop visiting /pol/ and /r9k/

Mint horse (ID: 8e5157)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243386

>>243381
Read the bottom part of my last post.

I've never used this site on Xbox before I'm sure you can see why.

Mk17 (ID: 38128a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243388

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>>243386
Still dont see a repost.

Starshine!Laura/wmXM (ID: cdcc5c)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  243390

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>God that video was so cathartic, I love this man.
>This is a board of peace. Leftists are the murderers. They want to genocide white people by flooding their countries with foreign people to replace them. You are the murderer.
>Nah , he did just right anon. All according to the plan of action
>Righteous deed, by a righteous man… hope many more will follow in his footsteps.
>His deeds were noble and the video is 10/10
>i have watched this video on repeat for 13 hours and i roman salute every fucking time. this is the best video on the internet. 100% serious.
>This board is a collection of westerners who feel cornered by a tyrannical world, in a fight for their people's very survival.
>We've been watching our women get raped and murdered by these cunts for years. I wonder if they liked that taste of their own medicine. I sure did.
>The shooter did well, 49 kill is pretty impressive, still short of Breivik's record though… If only everyone would do this high a bodycount against shitskins and kikes, our problems would be solved.

Mk17 (ID: 38128a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243392

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>>243390
>Its just a prank bro.

­Tr­­­a­­­c­er B­­ull­­­­e­t (ID: 91f5ab)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243394

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Neat.

☲ Prince Ember Storm!MSNowBALLk (ID: 9fc1a6)Country code: canadian-red-ensign.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  243395

>>243390
How can people be so fucking ignorant and cruel

Anonymous (ID: 705f60)Country code: cascadia.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  243396

>>243395
because in there perspective this is an act of a hero.

Mk17 (ID: 38128a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243397

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Heres my opinion, everyone who hides behind anonymity to express and share these views, and to express how much they thought this shit was funny, are soft spined, weak minded, cowardly pieces of shit, and can be considered anything but a "master race".

The only silver lining is they luckily have set their lives up in a way where the spreading of their weakness is unlikely to be passed on to sons or daughters.
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>>243396
Their perspective is shit and they should be treated like shit.

Mint horse (ID: 8e5157)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243401

>>243384
That's not my problem.

I have Aspergers, and one of the side affects is lack of empathy.

When my gran died two years ago (who I was personaly really close to) I didn't care, at least not on an emotional level. I remember getting annoyed at other people because they were crying, and I thought they were being too loud. I obviously know on an intellectual level that this wrong, but on an emotional level I didn't care.

Having Aspergers is kind of like having sociopathy lite. Sometimes I can be empathic, but for the most part I don't care.

>>243390
Edit; Disclaimer, this is a quote from 8chan.

>kek in the video there's a Muslim pig bitch on the ground crying HELP HELP, 10 seconds later she gets headshotted... these are the Muslims
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Mint horse (ID: 8e5157)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243402

>>243398
Funny.

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>>243401
>I have Aspergers, and one of the side affects is lack of empathy.

if anything it gives more of a reason to stop visiting those parts of the site.

Ika (ID: 41161f)Country code: mx, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243407

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>>243397
Anonymity is a mistake.

Mk17 (ID: 38128a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243408

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>>243401
"Not caring" and actively spreading the messages, and taking part in the "movement", and finding fucking HUMOR in watching people die because they are "different" is not one in the same you sick fuck.

Still dont see a re-post btw.

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welp, guess i might as well give up on talking about protecting free speech

because now the idea is pretty much going to be taboo at this point

all thanks to this puke who decided pull this shit

Mk17 (ID: 38128a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243410

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>>243409
Why?

Who said anything about free speech, mint is using it to talk about the enjoyment he gets from peoples deaths, and the rest of us are using it to express our disgust with that.

>>243407
Like an easteregg mistake?

☲ Prince Ember Storm!MSNowBALLk (ID: 9fc1a6)Country code: canadian-red-ensign.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  243411

>>243409
Hate speech is not free speech and should never be considered as such.

>>243410
Honestly, we should ban Mint. This is not a place that should be accepting of hate.

Starshine!Laura/wmXM (ID: cdcc5c)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  243412

>I rather be a terrorist than a spineless cuck. Go eat garbage of kike mudslime kebab in shed like subservient mongrel you are.
>That is good thing. Means people still have balls to stand up for good goals, like all people of great minds and strenght. Killing the enemy and pissing on their corpse is the natural way of preserving your people and your culture. Do not forget this.
>Holy fuck. Wife just got back from work and she says that the people in her office are starting to get angry that White people are constantly being demonized and hounded. They didn't really give two fucks about this event.
>nobody cares if you're a sandnigger if you stay in your fucking desert. but when you come to other people's countries and rape their children, run people over at christmas markets, then you piss people off and shouldn't be surprised if somebody retaliates
>Is not mental illness to kill enemy at the gates, or in your city. If enemy is enraged, that is good, means more heads and more bodies will pop for the good of your people. Violence is the true way to preserve freedom and culture of your people. Do not be misled otherwise
>paybacks a bitch you filthy sand niggers FOR ROTHERHAM
>The only good and right thing to do to fix the world is to be violent against all enemies. Peaceful solutions were never possible. Only allies of the jews spread this idiocy of peaceful political solution.
>The way to make things better is to kill all the enemies. Every single one of them. Violence is the natural law. Violence always solves any problem. By killing the enemy, you kill the problem that they created.
>Don't let the media get away with portraying Brenton as an evil White man who did this for no reason. It is the actions of the genocidal (((anti-Whites))) that have driven family/folk-oriented White men to such measures.
>Brenton was a normal White man who did what he thought he must to secure some semblance of justice for the thousands upon thousands of White men, women, and children killed, raped, and beaten, and the never-ending destruction of European culture, values, and history.
>You know, I've been thinking, out of these 40 dead muslims, did any of them ever reprimand the terrorist attacks done by other muslims? Or did they just scream, "not all muslims!" like everyone else did? As someone on the right, I keep getting told that I should feel sorry for the muslims and condemn this attack, but did they feel sorry for the victims of terrorist attacks and condemn other muslims, when their own ilk gangraped innocent women and children? When their own ilk have performed numerous massacres throughout the west for their god?
>Nah, they probably didn't do any of that shit. 40 of them, and it's likely that not one have apologized and condemned all the injustice that their muslim brethren have done in Europe, and we're supposed to feel sorry for this? There's a reason why things are escalating.
>just stating a (to me) obvious window of opportunity if you were to shift the focus away from the investigation, and more into the content spread. Small news media outlets could be especially approachable. Faceberg feeds etc. God know what all are eagerly awaiting content of his dude (and the kikes are already moving into censorship positions to do the opposite)
>I mean, we have his content, his video, does it matter why he did it and what his background is? His ideology is still mostly similar, thats all that matters? Move faster than our enemies and we stand to gain large sums of power.
>it feels so good bros…wish he went after white liberals instead tho
>This is one hang-up, it's not enough to go after the hordes because the hordes are endless. You have to go after the ones letting the hordes in. You have to make them terrified of stepping out of line, of intentionally trying to kill us first. We need to remove them from their offices of power. Imagine if some madlad went into Congress or the UN and pulled this off. Instead of several dozen literally who's, it could be several dozen pieces of shit that have influence over millions. Dylann Roof got that much right when he bagged that representative alongside all those other nogs.
>Tarrant is a martyr and his actions will be honored. The death of 49 Muslims means the death of 1000 in 2 generations down the line. He saved a lot of white lives.
>We are on the precipice of an identitarian civil war, anons. His manifesto was spot on in his prediction, and even when they were aware, the media, the left and the right are either already playing or set to play their part. I honestly think this is it.
>Optics cucks everywhere are shitting themselves. Getting ready for the wave of disavowals from white "men" while we are being ethnically replaced.

­Tr­­­a­­­c­er B­­ull­­­­e­t (ID: 91f5ab)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243413

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>This is not a place that should be accepting of hate.
Hahahahah

(ID: 08f28b)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243414

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>>243410
im not talking about mint here

im talking about in general

people can use this type of stuff to argue why free speech should be regulated

all thanks to one shithead

because there's always someone who has to ruin it for others

im mostly ranting
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Mk17 (ID: 38128a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243416

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>>243411
I disagree, but im def not going to condone this shit.

Ika (ID: 41161f)Country code: mx, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243418

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>>243411
>This is not a place that should be accepting of hate.
A bit too late for that.

Mint horse (ID: 8e5157)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243419

>>243408
I didn't find the fact that people were being killed to be funny, I found the remove kebab music to be funny. To be honest I didn't feel anything when pepeople died. At worst I thought it was interesting.

Also I tried to re-post, but I don't know how to copy and paste using the Xbox, sorry.

I edited the text to include my name and anyone who's actually interested should be able to tell that it's me from the conversation, YOU SICK FUCK!

Ika (ID: 41161f)Country code: mx, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243421

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>>243412
Going to /pol/ isn't healthy for you and bringing more of their cancer to this site isn't going to do any good.

Mk17 (ID: 38128a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243425

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>>243412
>>243421
I think its 8chan, but i agree, unless you have a point to make, copy and pasting their sadism isnt helpful.

>>243419
>I didn't find the fact that people were being killed to be funny
yet
>To be honest I felt everything from uncontrol laughter when the remove kebab music started, to excitement, to mild amusement. So you're probably less sociopathic than me.
and
>>kek in the video there's a Muslim pig bitch on the ground crying HELP HELP, 10 seconds later she gets headshotted... these are the Muslims (quoted without context to starshine)
also
>I found a Doom parody of this where the classic Doom music was playing, and every time someone was killed one of the classic Doom catchphrases like "Epic kill!" would play.

Could have fooled me.
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Ika (ID: 41161f)Country code: mx, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243427

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>>243425
Same thing.
8chan is just 4chan for the trash that thinks it's too good for 4chan.
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Mint horse (ID: 8e5157)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243428

>>243410
Stop trying to slander me.

I didn't say that I enjoy the deaths of others, I said that I don't have any emotional connection to it.

I fully understand how fucked that sounds to others, but it's not my fault. I understand that people dying is bad on an intelectul level, but because of my Aspergers I don't feel the same kind of emotions that most people do towards this topic.

>>243425
I said that I found the music and the parody funny, not the killing.

Also that whole thing with the "Muslim pig bitch" was obviously a quote. Look who I was replying to.

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>>243427
Trashier trash that thinks its better than trash?

Whoa...

Starshine!Laura/wmXM (ID: 3c34ad)Country code: lunachan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  243431

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>>243421
>>243425
I'm done now. Just wanted to make it perfectly clear what kind of mindset is behind these actions and that this is not just one guy who snapped. This was a calculated act driven by a growing movement that paints itself as a righteous crusade against the so-called destruction of the west. One that some people on this very website dismayingly align themselves with.

For them, I'm showing a mirror and asking them if this is really the kind of people they want to be, and the kind of mindset they want to have.

For the rest of us, a grim reminder of what we're up against. I don't think this is something that can be solved or prevented by ignoring it and hoping it goes away on its own.

Mint horse (ID: 8e5157)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243432

>>243425
Please remove that false quote that you just attributed to me.

Mint horse (ID: 8e5157)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243435

>>243431
Just curious, are those from 8chan, or 4chan?

Starshine!Laura/wmXM (ID: 3c34ad)Country code: lunachan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  243437

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>>243435
8chan. Your most used board, at that.

Anonymous (ID: 79609c)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243438

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>>243437
I thought so, thank you.

People in this thread realise that the views of /pol/ don't represent me right?

I might have some sociopathic tendencies, but I try to be as nice as possible.

Also my phone is working again, YAY!
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Mk17 (ID: 38128a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243439

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>>243428
I'm not slandering you.
Hopefully you at least understand that you are the company you keep, and hopefully you learn how to use the english language more effectively if you dont want your quotes to misrepresent you.

>>243432
When you quote things without context, it looks like you agree with them, especially when you are a literal nazi, who spreads these messages and conspiracies, about sub-races, people being less than human and calls for white nationalism.

Sorry dude, but you are these people, because they are your people, and now you have to live with and own up to your associations.
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>>243438
>People in this thread realise that the views of /pol/ don't represent me right?
i know you would never do something like that

but your views do align with people like him

i think thats what folks ITT are trying to tell you

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>>243439
>and hopefully you learn how to use the.

I saw that edit.

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>>243439
>When you quote things without context, it looks like you agree with them

I was obviously replying to Starshines post. Also look at my original post on this thread, I quote that post with context there.

>Sorry dude, but you are these people, because they are your people, and now you have to live with and own up to your associations


Yes, but I've been here for a good 4 months now. Surely people realise by now that I'm not your average /pol/ack?

>>243440
Fair enough.

My views may align with them pretty closely, but as long as people know that I'm well intentioned I think I'll be fine.

Edit; Can I post an interesting picture of the Doom parody of this attack? It's just a picture.
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Mk17 (ID: 38128a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243444

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>>243441
Haha... yeah. I was in the middle of the sentence and got distracted.

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>>243444
It's alright.

Say, isn't Mint the same nigga who was saying I was too negative and was too mean here or some shit like that?

(ID: 08f28b)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243447

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>>243442
i will give you my personal opinion

i think you should drop the nazi shit, my dude

i know you're not a bad person or anything like that (so i would hope so)

but dude, if you dropped the nazi shit you'd appear to be a much better person

and /pol/ rots the mind to no end

i cant force you to change obviously

but i think it's wise advice

take it or leave it

Mk17 (ID: 38128a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243448

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>>243442
>Yes, but I've been here for a good 4 months now. Surely people realise by now that I'm not your average /pol/ack?
Sorry dude, but no. Because simply saying, "I believe everything that this man stands for... But I would never do that" doesn't give you a free pass.

You can act as polite and innocent as you want, but it doesn't change the fact that you are no different from these people when you propagate their messages.
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>>243438
I don't think anyone in this thread thinks you're a terrorist. But you're missing the point. Trying to be "as nice as possible" doesn't absolve you for propagating the exact beliefs that inspired this and other terrorist attacks. The beliefs he cited as the motivation for his crime line up very closely with those you've stated -- the primary difference is the course of action he took. And a non-negligible, perhaps indeed fairly large, number of people who share your beliefs and frequent the same place where you go to discuss those beliefs, approve of and encourage the course of action he took.

If that isn't the side you want to be on, for the love of God, distance yourself from it.

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>>243449
>If that isn't the side you want to be on, for the love of God, distance yourself from it.
this

Anonymous (ID: 441461)Country code: stallman.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  243451

Some people are saying the shooter said to subscribe to pewdiepie during the video.

Honestly, that wouldn't surprise me.

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>>243451
He did. It was the first thing he said, actually. Stupid that that, of all things, is what some media outlets are choosing to fixate on.

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>>243442
>My views may align with them pretty closely, but as long as people know that I'm well intentioned I think I'll be fine.

FYI, there is nothing well intentioned about this point of view. I don't think you are a bad person and I don't want you to think everyone suddenly hates you because I don't think they do.

I just think that you have to kind of reflect exactly on what your views actually represent.

The man that did this did so with nothing but hate and bias in his mind and heart. If that is what you think should be promoted, I think you should reconsider your position. Here is the problem: People like you or this guy, they fall into the trap of being scared because of all the hate and propaganda that is going on, and it makes it seem like attacks like this are justified in some way. Yet, if you look at the other side, you will see the same thing happening to Christians in Muslim countries.

What you are looking at when you see the worst part of Muslim culture is not an evil that must be abolished.

What you are looking at is a mirror of your own ideology, but with the image reversed.

Mk17 (ID: 38128a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243455

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>>243446
Probably. Apparently its okay to advocate ideologies that lead to mass killings and genocide if you do it with a smile.

>>243447
I've been giving him this advice from the first day he was here, it hasn't taken, so now he gets to deal with the consequences. He and all the internet nazis with half a brain get to see the fruits of their labor. Maybe this is what it takes for them to realize the reality of what they preach.
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>>243455
Laughing at murder in real life? Perfectly fine.

Being a dick online? Unacceptable.

(ID: 08f28b)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243457

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>>243455
i've tried to give him this advice months ago

because he does know a thing or two about other stuff besides nazism or whatever

hoping to see a change

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>>243456
Well, apparently he was laughing at the prelude to murder, he just found the murder "interesting".

So its alright.
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Starshine!Laura/wmXM (ID: 3c34ad)Country code: lunachan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  243460

haha he played a meme song about killing muslims before going out and killing muslims in real life xd

epic funny

Mk17 (ID: 38128a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243461

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>>243457
>hoping to see a change
We all are, but it seems increasingly less likely.

Just like an ISIS member, the desire to avoid thinking for themselves and being part of a group "with a mission" might be too great.

It'll be a shame if he continues down that path.

Maroon Auburn!QEUQfdPtTM (ID: 733b30)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243462

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>4chan is a board of peace
>#notall4channers

4chan is a board of satire and pranks. Highjinks and merryment meant to mislead and troll.

Now 8chan on the other hand... Now there's a website that should be purged off the face of the earth and anybody who has posted on it should seek serious mental health help.

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>>243460
Exactly.

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>>243461
yeah, i was hoping over time he was gonna move on from this stuff

for a moment i thought he was

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>>243458
Ah yes, I too find murder interesting.

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>>243462
>4chan is a board of satire and pranks. Highjinks and merryment meant to mislead and troll.
If you play "ironic" long enough, pretty soon the irony is lost.

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>>243447
I can't just drop the "nazi shit." I genuinely believe in it, and I've throughly looked into it, so I'm not naive about the issue.

I call myself a National Socialist because that is the philosophy that is closest to what I believe. I don't agree with absolutely everything, but it is the closest thing I have to a worldview that I agree with. I suppose I could just call myself as Fascist who takes some inspiration form Hitler, but I don't think that would really help my image.

>>243448
>If that isn't the side you want to be on, for the love of God, distance yourself from it.

I believe that within the next 15-20 years there will be a big race war in Europe. When it comes you won't get to choose a side, your race is your side. When the race war comes the average terrorist attack of 2019 will be nothing in comparison.

This guy was just a bit premature, as I said if you think that's bad wait a decade or two.

How am I supposed to honestly put aside what I believe when I think that civil war it right around the corner? I'd never commit an act like this, but if in 10-15 years I'm forced into so kind of milisia, and everything around me is already burning I won't have a choice.

I wish that the race war wasn't coming, but I believe that it's inevitable at this point. My political views won't change as long as I believe in that.

>>243451
Check out, >>243343
>At approximately 1:10 the infamous remove kebab anthem starts playing (I'm not going to lie, I was literally laughing out load for the whole time that song played. Legitimately the funniest thing I've ever seen in my life. Here's a YouTube link to the song, REMOVE KEBAB (perfect loop) [Embed])
>the guns have slogans like remove kebab written on them

>Were you taught violence and extremism by video game, music, literature, cinema?

>Yes, Spyro the dragon 3 taught me ethno-Nationalism. (Mfw Spyro the dragon 3 was my favourite game as a kid, and now I'm a "ethno-Nationalist." I'm not even kidding, I loved that game when I was a kid.) Fortnite trained me to be a killer and floss on the corpuses of my enemies.

>>243454
>I just think that you have to kind of reflect exactly on what your views actually represent

I know exactly what I'm getting into, I've done my research.

And as I've said in the past my political views don't always align with my personal views. I believe what I do political not because it gives me good feels or because I think it's edgy, but because I think it's the truth.

The fact that my political and personal views don't align can sometimes give me pretty bad cognitive dissonance. I'm constantly questioning what I believe, but I always come to the same conclusion, wither I want to or not.

>What you are looking at when you see the worst part of Muslim culture is not an evil that must be abolished

>What you are looking at is a mirror of your own ideology, but with the image reversed

I've already talked to you about Islam in the past, and I've said that I have a lot of respect for certain Islamic sects. (but I despise others) I think my views on the religion are actually quite nuanced compared to most people.

I have no problem with Islam or Muslim, I just want to keep my own country British. They can have the Middle East, and we can even have good relations with them, but that doesn't mean I want millions of them or any people in my country.

>>243457
I'm also interested in MLP and Veganism. I'm not one dimensional you know?

It's just that my National Socialism is the thing that others focus on because it's the most controversial.

>>243458
Hey, if you watched the video and heard that music without being warned in advance you'd have laughed to.

>>243461
>It'll be a shame if he continues down that path

I've already reached the end of the line.

My views haven't gotten any more extreme than they were 6 months ago. The chances of me becoming more of an extremist than I am now are extremely small.

>>243462
This!

>>243464
I'm only 18.

If I'm being honest there's a good chance that I will move on. And as I said I have interests beyond politics, that's just the thing that people seem to be most interested in.

Sorry about the delay, my phone is still playing up. I might have to get a new one.

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>>243466

Hey, I'm British. It's in my very nature to use dry wit, sarcasm and irony.

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>>243468
>Hey, if you watched the video and heard that music without being warned in advance you'd have laughed to.
No. I wouldnt have, and i didnt. It made me sick.
>I can't just drop the "nazi shit." I genuinely believe in it, and I've throughly looked into it, so I'm not naive about the issue.
>I've already reached the end of the line.
>My views haven't gotten any more extreme than they were 6 months ago. >The chances of me becoming more of an extremist than I am now are extremely small.
Then i dont hold you in any higher regard than the people who are cheering this act, and hardly more than the man who fired the gun.

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>>243468
What makes you think a race war is imminent? And how did someone so young come to think this way?

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>>243468
have you considered reading into less authoritarian ideologies?

see, that's the issue with people on far-right and the far-left as well

they are far too invested in everyone else and what they do

what race they are, how much money they have, etc

why not focus on more personal freedoms?

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>>243468
>I believe that within the next 15-20 years there will be a big race war in Europe
If there is, it will be because of people who believe exactly the things you believe. If you truly "wish it wasn't coming", then stop espousing the exact views that make it a self fulfilling prophecy.

I don't hate you, and I've tried to be nice to you until this point. But my patience with this is wearing incredibly thin.

A "race war" is exactly what your ideological allies are hoping for and actively working toward, and if you can't see that, you're either delusional or willfully ignorant.

Stop making excuses for these sickening people and stop lying in the same bed of shit as them.

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>>243474

Charles Manson thought the same thing.

Did not work then won't work now won't work ever.

And at least Charles was able to act charismatic and pretend to be pesudo-Intellectual to try and hide the fact that he was nuts.

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>>243468
>I believe that within the next 15-20 years there will be a big race war in Europe

Considering there wasn't even a race war when literal racists were attempting to take over Europe, I'm not quite sure where you're getting this idea from.

There is literally no evidence backing this up. The only people who WANT to start a race war are white nationalists. Everyone else is just like, "WTF is wrong with you, bro?"
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>>243474
The same way most nazi zoomer idiots do. Watching anti-SJW YouTubers and slowly falling further and further down the rabbit hole.

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>>243470
>Then i dont hold you in any higher regard than the people who are cheering this act, and hardly more than the man who fired the gun

But I'm not advocating for any violence?

I can't just change my political views overnight because they're not political correct. (I can't honestly change them anyway) All I can do is condemn actions like this when I see them, which I do.

>>243474
>What makes you think a race war is imminent? And how did someone so young come to think this way?

I've explained this a thousand times, so I'll just give you the overview.

The fact that everything in our current society aligns with societies in the past that have collapsed, the fact that we're importing literally millions of third world immigrants that have significantly lower IQs than us, aswell as having higher testosterone, the fact that the vast majority of western countries are currently in billions (in some cases trillions) of pounds worth debt.

I think that the most likely scenario is that our economy collapses and then the millions of welfare dependent migrants that we've imported in riot and cause mayhem, due to the lack of money that they were once freely receiving. After the economy collapses and the migrants start the riot everyone else will be swept in to it, wither they like it or not. Just look at the French riots that are still ongoing, they're a good early example of this.

>>243477
>If you truly "wish it wasn't coming", then stop espousing the exact views that make it a self fulfilling prophecy.

I think it's inevitable at this point. No one can stop it, it's coming.

>I don't hate you, and I've tried to be nice to you until this point. But my patience with this is wearing incredibly thin.


To be honest I don't really enjoy constantly talking or thinking about this stuff. I'd rather just have friendly conversations, but because of the political nature of this site conversations like these are inevitable.

>>243480
>Considering there wasn't even a race war when literal racists were attempting to take over Europe, I'm not quite sure where you're getting this idea from

What are you talking about?

>There is literally no evidence backing this up. The only people who WANT to start a race war are white nationalists. Everyone else is just like, "WTF is wrong with you, bro?"


And the Muslims also have this attitude?

Most people may believe this right now, but when the welfare stops and literally millions of third world migrants became hungry, people will quickly change their mind.

Edit; I'm away to get my shower, I'll respond later.
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>>243490
>"violence is inevitable and when the time comes, your side is your race"
>"I'm not advocating for any violence"
Sorry buddy, not how this "I didn't want to do it but (((you))) forced my hand" rhetoric works.

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>>243490
>But I'm not advocating for any violence?
But you are.

Your preaching the ideology, youre spreading psudo science, and youre making excuses for the warped views of reality that lead to these actions, varped views that you share and condone.

Your nothing more than a useful idiot to the people who want this violence to continue, and the fact that you say you dont want to commit the violence doesn't absolve you.

There is no conclusion to your ideology aside from genocide and mass murder. Deal with it.

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>>243490
>Just look at the French riots that are still ongoing, they're a good early example of this.

To be fair, France is the country that..

A. Spent all their money to build a wall between them and Germany, to which the Germans responded by invading Poland and then attacking France from Poland (where there was no wall).

B. Gave everyone in the country a 3 month vacation and then wondered why their economy collapsed.

C. Started a war in Vietnam because French colonies there wanted Independence, called in the US to clean up their mess and then bailed the second the fighting actually started.

The only thing France is a good example of is "How not to run a country."
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>>243490
Migrants pay more in taxes than they consume, and white and non-white IQs are converging.

Wouldn't it be better to focus on the real causes of our problems, and to focus on what has been done right and improve upon it rather than throw it away in an emotional tribalist struggle that is based more on fantasy than fact?

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>>243505

>France

>Either surrernding or running away from fighting

Ah that classic pasttime of the French
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>>243490
>the millions of welfare dependent migrants
What about all the welfare-dependant white people?

>I identify with an ideology that inevitably leads to violent conflict

>But I don't support violence lol

You can't have your cake and eat it too, here.

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>>243490
>And the Muslims also have this attitude?
>"The Muslims" universally want to destroy all non-Muslims so this justifies mass murdering them
You know what fuels the Islamist extremist groups and radicalizes them? Fear. Fear and propaganda leading them to believe that it's us or them. The exact kind of bullshit you're neck-deep in, and helping to perpetuate by fueling the ideology that creates and encourages hostility toward them.

But fine, you're right, let's just pre-emptively strike every single group that might feel endangered by us, so they don't pre-emptively strike us first. You know, just to be safe. Let's vindicate their fear. I don't see how that can possibly go wrong.

I can't believe I ever thought /pol/acks were smart but dangerous misanthropes who just want to watch the world burn. Some of them surely are, but in reality, a vast majority of them are just delusional useful idiots who have willingly brainwashed themselves into thinking they're accepting painful truths that everyone else is too stupid to accept. Maybe, just maybe, you're the ones too fucking stupid to handle the truth.

I hate having to be so harsh, but this has to stop. Wake up now, or be complicit in feeding and encouraging a conflict that has potential to actually destroy the civilization you claim to hold so dear. This isn't a fucking Call of Duty game.

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>>243517
If you're so bad at everything that even the Canadians dislike you, you have severely fucked up.

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Just to re-iterate. Please dont share the video, please dont watch the video, and report it when you can.

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Shot...

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...chaser.

Maroon Auburn!QEUQfdPtTM (ID: 733b30)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243544

>>243532

I think you'l find most canadians love us.

Please don't let your blind hated of ny wonderful country warp your worldview.

I love America. I love Canada.

Why can't you say the same of the British?

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>The Great Replacement
>The_Great_Replacement.pdf
Reeeeeeeally makes you think.
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>>243536
Too late, I am a curious man.
But I watched on a chan, so no clicks and views gained.

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>>243352
>I hope this incident will be the right kind of wakeup call for people going down that path.

The problem is, the people going down this path are doing it explicitly to accelerate us all further down said path.

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>>243544
I'm talking about the French.

The British are cool with me. Even if your language is silly.
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>>243553

Ah. Completely misunderstood you.

My apologies.

Now excuse me, I need to.. uh.. walk my goldfish?

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>>243505
Poland is in between Germany and Russia, not Germany and France. You're thinking Belgium and the Netherlands.

Also I don't hate the French, they're a fine culture of people who have created some of the greatest examples of comfort food ever in poutine. I just make fun of the cheese eating surrender monkeys whenever I can because it's fucking hilarious.

They also have the greatest examples of vulgar language I have ever heard.

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>>243560
>I just make fun of the cheese eating surrender monkeys whenever I can because it's fucking hilarious.
You know thats hate speech right?

What is the difference between that and calling a muslim a towel head?

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>>243561
"It's okay, because they're white"

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>>243561
The fact that the French deserve it.

Also, no "hate speech" against the French has ever caused them to be the victim of anything, ever.

The French are in the odd category of 'infuriating but not threatening' to the point in which most people dislike them but they are such a non-threat to anybody that no one feels the need to actually act out against them either.

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>>243499
>"violence is inevitable and when the time comes, your side is your race"
>"I'm not advocating for any violence"

There's a big difference between advocating violence and predicting it.

Sorry buddy, not how this "I didn't want to do it but (((you))) forced my hand" rhetoric works

At what point in this conversation did I bring up the Jews?

I believe that what's happening to White people is mostly the fault of White people. The Jews may play a disproportionate role in that, but they would have absolutely no power over us if we ourselves weren't so weak and corrupted. This is MOSTLY our fault, and no one elses.

>>243502
I can't control what others with similar beliefs to my own advocate.

I've already said that my personal and political beliefs don't align. Do you think I chose to believe what I believe because it's fun, for the bants? Because I don't. I don't like a lot of the things that I'm forced to believe in, and I try to stay as moderate and open minded as possible, but I'm not willing to change my opinion on something because I don't like the truth. I may lack many things, but ideological integrity is not one of them.

There are countless things within National Socialism that I personally don't like, but see the necessity in. I don't like the thought of oppressing certain groups within society, in fact it sickens me to think of everything that will likely happen in the future. But I'm not willing to disregard something because it makes me feel bad, or it contradicts what I'd personally like in an idea scenario.

You guys don't realise that half of the time I'm just as morally repulsed by certain things that I argue for as you are. But as I've said I still believe in them and I still argue for them, because I believe that they are the NECESSARY EVIL of our time.

Would you rather that people like me who only follow National Socialism out of a sense of obligation to the truth, (assuming that what I believe is the truth) but despite this try to be as forgiving and moderate as possible are at the front lines of the debate, or would you rather have the genuine radicals who have no sense of morality, guilt, or balance be the people you argue with.

I REALLY don't like being lumped in with a lot of the people at /pol/, I'm nothing like them other than the fact that we happen to share similar political views.

Have I made you genuinely angry? I've seen that your Trixe aswell as the way you talk to me has gotten more hostile overtime. I'm genuinely sorry if I angered you.

You know my first instinct when seeing this thread was "no, fuck it. It's really not worth getting into a thread like this because I know that I'll inevitably hurt people and cause drama." But I ignore that and posted anyway. Fuck me, I should have probably just went with my first instinct.

>>243512
>Migrants pay more in taxes than they consume, and white and non-white IQs are converging

80% of Muslims are on welfare, and that's not including the Muslims that work but don't make enough in tax to be contributing members of society. Even if we were extremely generous and said that 1/3 of Muslims contribute to society in other ways (volunteering, bringing foreign money into the country, etc) than traditional employment, at least 47% of Muslims would still be welfare leaches.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/4411913/just-one-in-five-muslims-are-in-work-as-report-finds-they-are-held-back-by-racism/amp/

Here's another one on Muslims in Germany.

Aslo the reason that IQs are converging within White countries is most likely due to race mixing aswell as dysgenic breeding, in the forum of the welfare state.

Provide sources next time.

>>243529
>You know what fuels the Islamist extremist groups and radicalizes them?

Their devotion to Allah, and the promise of a future European Caliphate?

>But fine, you're right, let's just pre-emptively strike every single group that might feel endangered by us, so they don't pre-emptively strike us first. You know, just to be safe. Let's vindicate their fear. I don't see how that can possibly go wrong


To be fair we did kind of start it. But it's not the fault of people like me or you that we went to war with their people, it's the fault of our politicians.

I don't plan on making the first strike. I plan on sitting back and waiting until they make there's. As I said I think that this is inevitable, and it'll most likely be started by them.

>Maybe, just maybe, you're the ones too fucking stupid to handle the truth


I'm willing to accept that as a possibility, but to be honest I think it's unlikely.

>I hate having to be so harsh, but this has to stop


I know what you're talking about, I feel the same way.

>Wake up now, or be complicit in feeding and encouraging a conflict that has potential to actually destroy the civilization you claim to hold so dear. This isn't a fucking Call of Duty game


I understand that this isn't a game, and I think what you would define as "my civilisation" is vastly different to how I would define it. My civilisation doesn't exist without my people in it.

I just got out of my shower, sorry for the wait.

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>>243569
I have a question for you.

If your 'side' is your race, what side are you on if your race has constantly betrayed you?

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>>243561
No it's not. Hate speech is advocating genocide. Calling a Frenchman a frog or a Quebecker a snowfrog is just being rude, but most of the reasonable ones will laugh it off.

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>>243569
>I can't control what others with similar beliefs to my own advocate.
But your advocating the same thing.
The only difference is when people are saying "we should kill x other" your saying "oh that sounds mean, cant we just oppress them kick them out of the country by force and strip them of their rights?"
What the hell do you expect is going to happen when they dont just say "oh shit, mint dosnt like me, guess ill stay in isreal"
No.
They will be killed.
So you are advocating for violence. And you can twist your thoughts into thinking you can be a "good person who doesn't want too see no one get hurt" all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that what YOU advocate for, will lead UNAVOIDABLY to the deaths of these people. So you are no better, just because your the "nice" one.

>I've already said that my personal and political beliefs don't align. Do you think I chose to believe what I believe because it's fun, for the bants? Because I don't. I don't like a lot of the things that I'm forced to believe in, and I try to stay as moderate and open minded as possible, but I'm not willing to change my opinion on something because I don't like the truth. I may lack many things, but ideological integrity is not one of them.

I think you need counseling.

>Would you rather that people like me who only follow National Socialism out of a sense of obligation to the truth, (assuming that what I believe is the truth) but despite this try to be as forgiving and moderate as possible are at the front lines of the debate, or would you rather have the genuine radicals who have no sense of morality, guilt, or balance be the people you argue with.

I'd rather you all shut the fuck up and stop fallowing the marching orders of those who seek genocide.

>I REALLY don't like being lumped in with a lot of the people at /pol/, I'm nothing like them other than the fact that we happen to share similar political views.

Well, thats too fucking bad isnt it? Want to talk about harsh truths? If you going to hold all ISIS members accountable for the actions of ISIS, then get prepared to have the actions of people who's philosophy you subscribe to define YOU.
>Have I made you genuinely angry?
Yes, you made me geneunelly angry when you smugly denied the holocaust, something i know people that live through, something my my grandfather witnessed.

You are making me genuinely mad, because like it or not, you are the embodiment of mass murder and death, chaos, and ignorance in this world, and it makes me genuinely mad to see someone so indoctrinated into a fucking internet consparisy that they are willing to forgo all their own thoughts and feelings of a situation just to fallow what some fucking anonymous group of terrorists says on a message board and be "dedicated to their political ideology".

It makes me genuinely mad that someone like you can exist.

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>>243581
So calling a mexican a wet back or a muslim a towl head is A-Ok right?

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>>243581

This. Everyone should know my own dislike of the French is banter.

There is a major difference between being all 'Lol French suck at war' and 'You know what? Frenchmen should be hung the disgusting subhumans'


Sadly some people these day's don't seem to be able to tell the difference between the two.

I fear we are approaching a new era in which you can't even make light hearted jokes without some one instantly accusing you of being a white robe wearing, cross burning klansman.
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>>243584
It's rude, but not hate speech.

Furthermore, I was being intentionally humourous in the exact same breath I was praising the French for being a great cultural bastion of good food and awesome vulgarity. I live in the same country as several French cultures from the Quebecois to the Acadiens to the Metis, and they're all wonderful people for the most part, just like any other culture.

But I do reserve every right to banter with them, especially since Canada's past with the Quebecois has been strained. It's a way to put it all behind us and remember that we're all Canadian.

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>>243585

>>243585
Just so you know, im not advocating stopping calling french people bagette eating mime fuckers.

Im just pointing out that if you are willing to do that, you cant say free speech should be banned, and you need to realize that there isnt a difference between doing it to the french and doing it to any other group of people.

☲ Prince Ember Storm!MSNowBALLk (ID: 9fc1a6)Country code: canadian-red-ensign.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  243589

>>243588
Hate speech is legally defined as the advocation or perpetuation of genocide against an identifiable group. Being racist or discriminatory is not hate speech unless it advocates actually harming a people.

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>>243589
Defined as abusive or threatening speech of someones race/religion/icecreamflavor. Not solely genocide.

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>murdering over 50 innocent, unarmed people in their place of worship is "vigilantism"
>"those Muslims wouldn't have been slaughtered in cold blood if you cucks hadn't let them in in the first place"
>the victims are partly to blame for their own deaths because they're Muslim
>an actual elected official is saying this in the wake of a terror attack
Yep, I'm out. Bailing on this thread and everything tangentially related to this. I know my limits and I'm too fucking mad.

Disgusting.

☲ Prince Ember Storm!MSNowBALLk (ID: 9fc1a6)Country code: canadian-red-ensign.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  243596

>>243593
That fucker's a moron. I hope his career tanks.
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>>243576
>If your 'side' is your race, what side are you on if your race has constantly betrayed you?

The White race as it is now is completely contemptible. We passively watch as our people are replaced and our culture is destroyed.

But that doesn't mean that we can't redeem ourselves in the future. It would be unfair to cast doubt on our whole race just because of what a handful of generations have done our/they're people.

I'd rather we look at what we've done in the past and are thus capable of doing in the future, and take inspiration from that rather than our current downfall.

>>243582
>They will be killed

Try to see this from my perspective. (even if you think my perspective is complete nonsense) They are the ones that have invaded our homeland, and in return we have shown tolerance to them and given them all the same rights, opportunities, and privileges that we give our own people. (if not more so for them) In return they have raped our women, stolen from us, and committed acts of terrorism against our people, to name a few things. All I want to do is rightfully deport them for the crimes they have committed against our people.

How am I the bad guy when they are the ones that have done so much damage to our people, in our home?

>I think you need counseling


I think you're being hyperbolic.

>Yes, you made me geneunelly angry when you smugly denied the holocaust, something i know people that live through, something my my grandfather witnessed.


I'm genuinely sorry. My intention is not to offend people.

Sorry for the delay. I think I need to get a new phone. I've had this one for 4 years, and within the past 2-3 months it's been playing up. It's gotten especially worse over the past two weeks. It only has about half an hour to an hours charge and when it runs out it has to be charged for a good 20 minutes (at least) before it's working again.

Edit; I'm going to make a genuine effort to be less political on this site if this is what it turns into. I really like everyone here and the thought of me ruining a friendship or my reputation on this site as a whole because of a political argument makes me depressed to say the least. I value this site and the people on it, and I'd rather maintain good relations with people than get into pointless drama.

I know when to stop, and I think this thread is a good stopping point for me. I'll answer everything in this thread and I'll occasionally still make posts in political threads, but I want to tone things down massively. That means if something controversial like this thread comes up in future I won't post, or at least argue with people in it.

The thought upsetting people, especially people who I talk to regularly is really troubling to me. And as I said I'd rather have good friendly relationships with people than get into pointless, hurtful arguments.

Does anyone have an opinion on this?
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Mk17 (ID: 38128a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243601

>>243597
>How am I the bad guy when they are the ones that have done so much damage to our people, in our home?
Your "own people" do that too.

And you dont limit it to just people who committed a crime, you paint entire ethnicities with the same brush. You say they are inferior genetically based on a total lack of science.

Not to mention, again, you are advocating for their deaths. Maybe you arnt saying "they should die" but you are okay with the possibility and accept it as a "necessary evil".

Whats funny is, YOUR the one ruining your country.

>I think you're being hyperbolic.

I'm not. I sincerely think you have a problem preciving reality, and you saying you are going to forgo all your own thoughts and observations of a situation to fallow the "truth" that someone else decided for you only make me feel more concrete in that assessment.
>I'm genuinely sorry. My intention is not to offend people.
Again, too fucking bad, get use to it.
If you dont like it, stop doing it.

Maroon Auburn!QEUQfdPtTM (ID: 733b30)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243602

>>243593

Fuck me there's a level of mental gymnastics I have not seen for some time.

How on earth is that moron an elected official? Who elected him and on what platform?

Only good thing about him saying that is that he will no doubt lose his job, his friends, family and I have no doubt there's a case for a hate speech charge too.

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>>243593
>If there were less Muslims, less of them would've died

If there were less guns, there's be less gun related deaths.

If there were less sugar in Americans food, there's be less fatties.

If there were less cars, there'd be less car crashes.

If there were less Japanese men, the suicide rate would go down.

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>>243597
>Does anyone have an opinion on this?
You do you. Be yourself. There's no way a kid like you could possibly be wrong.

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>>243597
>The White race as it is now is completely contemptible. We passively watch as our people are replaced and our culture is destroyed.

>But that doesn't mean that we can't redeem ourselves in the future. It would be unfair to cast doubt on our whole race just because of what a handful of generations have done our/they're people.


>I'd rather we look at what we've done in the past and are thus capable of doing in the future, and take inspiration from that rather than our current downfall.


Absolutely nothing you just said has anything to do with the question I asked you.
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>>243597
>Does anyone have an opinion on this?
I have no sympathy, because that is the life of a "legitimate nazi" because the majority of people dont want their loved ones be killed over some bull shit political ideology and self proclaimed "truth".

And its the life you are choosing.

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>this thread

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>>243601
>I'm not. I sincerely think you have a problem preciving reality, and you saying you are going to forgo all your own thoughts and observations of a situation to fallow the "truth" that someone else decided for you only make me feel more concrete in that assessment.

I'm glad that you have genuine concern for me, thank you.

But I don't think I'm that delusional. Believe it or not but National Socialism only takes up about 5-10% of my daily thought pattern. I think about ponies significantly more.

If I was completely obsessed with it and it was all could think of talk about I'd agree with you, but that just isn't the case. In fact no one IRL had any idea that I'm National Socialist. I try to keep my political beliefs separate from my personal life because I'm fully aware of how extreme and toxic they are to other people. I think I can believe what I believe and still live a semi normal life because I don't share my beliefs with anyone, not even friends or family off the chans.

But as I said thank you for showing concern.

>Again, too fucking bad get used to it. If you don't like it, stop doing it


>Edit; I'm going to make a genuine effort to be less political on this site if this is what it turns into. I really like everyone here and the thought of me ruining a friendship or my reputation on this site as a whole because of a political argument makes me depressed to say the least. I value this site and the people on it, and I'd rather maintain good relations with people than get into pointless drama.


>I know when to stop, and I think this thread is a good stopping point for me. I'll answer everything in this thread and I'll occasionally still make posts in political threads, but I want to tone things down massively. That means if something controversial like this thread comes up in future I won't post, or at least argue with people in it.


>The thought upsetting people, especially people who I talk to regularly is really troubling to me. And as I said I'd rather have good friendly relationships with people than get into pointless, hurtful arguments.


>Does anyone have an opinion on this?


Look I'm genuinely sorry. How can I make you understand that?

>>243609
Oh you saw it?

Look I can understand why you're angry, and I'm not trying to take that away from you. I probably deserve worse to be honest.

All I'm asking is that we drop this when this thread leaves the front page and move on.

You may think that I'm misguided, retarded, delusional, and/or indoctrinated, and at least one of those things is almost definitely true. And I'm okay with you thinking some or all of those things about me, as long as you know that I work with the best intentions.

>>243615
I hope that it's over.

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>>243616
I'd still like an actual answer to my question, because I am legitimately curious about it.

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>>243618
I answered your question in my last post.

I'll give you a more direct answer. I side with my race despite what they currently are because they are my people, and they have a far greater past and potential than what they currently are.

I hope that's a satisfactory answer for you. I'm way too depressed because of this train reck of a thread to give you anything better. I should have just went with my first instinct and actively ignored this thread.

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>>243621
Well, for the record I'm not upset with you and I don't hate you. I'm not a fan of your views but I can tell you're trying to be a good person despite them, so I cannot fault you for it.

The reason I asked this question and your response is very telling. You and I seem to have very different ideas of what 'betrayal' means.

When I asked my question, I mean what do you do when your own 'team' actively hates you, treats you like garbage, abuseses you and basically disowns you?

Nothing you mentioned really touches on that, you seem to just be wanting to blame any flaws that white people may have on their interaction with other races, which is kind of troubling. Not because I think you're a bad person, but because of that is the first line of thinking you go to, the conditioning you've been subjected to is quite severe.

I have no hate or dislike of you for what was said in this thread, only concern.
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>>243616
but the thing is your gonna end up working with them if (god forbid) the time comes.

which means all that stuff you said about not condoning force, is irrelevant.

Cause now you're actually doing it along with the others.

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>>243569
The long term data has shown that migrants have not been a net burden on the societies into which they have entered.

http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/6/eaaq0883

The article you linked is about a 98-page report regarding British Muslims and social mobility, not welfare. There is NOTHING in that article or the report itself that contradicts what I've said. Just because a group uses welfare does not mean that they are a net loss for society.

>80% of Muslims are on welfare


You are making that up. The only place I can find that stat is the website of the British National Party, and they are literal fascists. British welfare stats are not broken down by religion. All we know is that the majority of British households are on some form of welfare, so in raw numbers, most British welfare recipients are probably white. 

>IQs are converging within White countries is most likely due to race mixing


Again, that is untrue. In America, ALL racial groups are seeing their IQs increase overtime. This phenomenon is called the Flynn Effect and it is being observed even in racially homogenous population samples. The Rindermann and Pichelmann study cites in improvement in overall nutrition and early childhood environmental factors over the last several decades.

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>>243623
>>243624
Personally I think we all need to chill a bit because everyone here is pretty emotionally charged right now and I don't think this is a healthy environment for anyone involved.

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>>243625
yea you're right.

Even i'm starting to get sucked into this mess.

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>>243625
This is why I tend to avoid threads like this. They're almost guaranteed to be a shitshow.

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>>243622
>Well, for the record I'm not upset with you and I don't hate you. I'm not a fan of your views but I can tell you're trying to be a good person despite them, so I cannot fault you for it

Thanks that's nice to know.

I'm mostly upset because of Mk. It's not anything that he's done, I'm upset over the fact that I made him so angry. There's also a lot in this thread that I probably shouldn't have posted. Before coming into this thread I was extremely cautious, but then I just seemed to let loose. There's quite a few posts that I could have worded better, or not made at all.

I just hope that Mk and anyone else that I've offended with some of the insensitive things I said will forgive me.

>When I asked my question, I mean what do you do when your own 'team' actively hates you, treats you like garbage, abuseses you and basically disowns you?


My race doesn't just include those how have betrayed me today, it includes those in our past aswell as those in our future who are yet to be born. It would be extremely unfair to blame countless generations for what only a handful of generations have done.

This generation and the one coming immediately after it are completely fucked, but that doesn't mean that the generations going forward have to face the same fate.

But I'm sure that sounds like complete nonsense to you, I highly doubt that you'll understand. Which is fair enough.

>Nothing you mentioned really touches on that, you seem to just be wanting to blame any flaws that white people may have on their interaction with other races, which is kind of troubling. Not because I think you're a bad person, but because of that is the first line of thinking you go to, the conditioning you've been subjected to is quite severe.


I don't blame everything on other races. In fact I talked about the fact that I believe that what had been happening to us is mostly our fault, because of our weaknesses and inability to fight it.

>I have no hate or dislike of you for what was said in this thread, only concern.


Again thank you!

>>243623
What are you replying to?

>>243624
I'll answer this tomorrow, or later today. Whenever I don't feel complete depressed.

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>>243626
You have to understand that Mint is a scared teenager who is being told his entire world is falling apart around him by people he thinks he can trust. The fact that the news keeps throwing up shit about the UK falling apart at every turn doesn't help matters. When people get scared they kick it a 'fight or flight' mode, and Mint has nowhere to go other than where he believes is home. So he is mentally preparing himself for a fight and the people around him are egging that on.

White nationalists have used this tactic since the original Nazis, preying on people's insecurities by blaming all the problems on the 'other'. By assuring them that there is nothing wrong with what the white race is doing and all the problems stem from 'interferance' of other people. The whole, 'If they just left us alone everything would be fine' idea.

To someone who is afraid and needs justification for what is going on, this seems like a pretty valid excuse. It's also self perpetuating, because fear is a very strong emotion. When you believe you have an enemy, human nature is to learn everything you can about that enemy, which leads to doing "research", which is happily provided by those who wish to push a narrative.

So if anyone here is going to be angry at someone, don't be angry at Mint. Be angry at those who took advantage of him and have made him believe these things, because he is just a scared teenager being manipulated by those with more sinister objectives.

>>243630
>I don't blame everything on other races. In fact I talked about the fact that I believe that what had been happening to us is mostly our fault, because of our weaknesses and inability to fight it.

This right here is something you should read again and give thought to. You say you don't blame the faults on other races but instead you blame your race for 'not being strong enough' to 'fight' the influences of other cultures.

This mindset basically is saying that you believe the influences of other cultures is inherently harmful, which is basically blaming them for the problems. You're just masking it. Take that into consideration.
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>>243630
ehh don't worry about, its just gonna lead to the same train wreck.

>>243634
kind reason why i'm backing off, told myself i wouldn't take part in his and yet I almost did.
Thanks toy.

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>>243625
Kid needs to learn that consistently advocating for this stuff will lead him to lost friend, hurt feelings, and that his words and ideologies have real world implications, such as 40 dead innocents.

Better some harsh words on the internet than a severe beating in the real world.

Kid gloves come off when "yeah it sucks that some people died, but the message is pure" comes out.
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>>243636
cool, i can't edit
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>>243638
I don't think it was advocating. To be fair, I've never seen Mint advocate for anything. I've seen him share an opinion and defend that opinion when it is questioned, but I have not seen him advocate anything.

Perhaps you are seeing something that is not actually there because of anger. I'm not saying I agree with his opinion, nor am I saying it's a healthy one, but he has NEVER tried to push his views on anyone, and has only shared them and defended them when questioned about it.

Even if you feel those opinions are detestable, you can not claim someone is advocating for them simply for having them.

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>>243634
Thanks a lot for your reply to Anon. Nice to know that at least someone had my side.

I suggest everyone read Toys post, I couldn't have worded it better myself.

I'll give you a better response when I'm not so depressed, thank you.

>This mindset basically is saying that you believe the influences of other cultures is inherently harmful, which is basically blaming them for the problems. You're just masking it. Take that into consideration.


Maybe I didn't word that properly. I was talking about both the struggle we have with the weakness within ourselves and the struggle that other races pose to us because of these weaknesses. Even if you removed the other races from the picture we'd still have a problem.

>>243638
You might have done a bit better if you didn't get so emotionally invested in it. You weren't trying to help me, you got angry at me and sperged out. And I'm willing to accept that and move on. To be honest I don't blame you for some of the things you said to me. As I've said a thousand times, this thread was a mistake.

>Better some harsh words on the internet than a severe beating in the real world


Too late. I don't want to talk about it right now, luckily it didn't go too far.

>>243642
This! Mk took what I said way too personally.

Again I'll give you a better response when I'm not feeling extremely depressed.

Thank you Toy!

a lost pony !piNKiEPie. (ID: 4b9cd0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243647

>>243634
>You have to understand that Mint is a scared teenager who is being told his entire world is falling apart around him by people he thinks he can trust.

THIS.

further, he has some extreme far leftist shit going on right in his own school and like so many youngsters is desperate to find something, anything that makes more sense to him. He's had trouble in school and doesn't know any history yet and despite what he said early in the thread, he IS naive.

MK. It is unacceptable for you to go at him like you are here. How old are you? Do you not see how assigning Mint a share of the responsibility for mass murder is only misplacing your anger at what happened on a hapless teenager who doesn't know any better yet? It's counterproductive. Please be persuasive, not punitive. I want him to understand what you are saying to him.

Mint,
MK does still make some good points about how this kind of killing is the inevitable result of the doctrine you believe in. I hope you can separate MK's anger from the valid points he is making.

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>>243642
Yup, you're right, constantly making the argument that people are genetically inferior and should be stripped of their rights and oppressed is not advocacy.

Its all alright then. What a great guy, i hope he continues, as long as he is polite about it, hopefully he will get his wishes.

And now you have validated him, congrats! >>243643

I see now, that i was in the wrong for ever being upset with someone who defends the ideology that will lead to the death of my friends.
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a lost pony !piNKiEPie. (ID: 4b9cd0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243649

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>>243649
Go away.

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>>243647
You gave me months worth of shit for saying i dont believe in illegal immigration, and this guy was laughing his ass off while watching a guy gear up to litterally KILL 40 people for being Muslim and your okay with that?

You likened me to being as bad as people who throw bricks at the heads of Hispanic people, and this guy is defending the ideology and the platform that KILLED 40 real people...

Dude is 18, his actions have consequences, and ill talk to him how i please.

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>>243648
>Yup, you're right, constantly making the argument that people are genetically inferior and should be stripped of their rights and oppressed is not advocacy.

I've never seen him do that. Yes, he believes there is a thing of genetic superiority/inferiority, that is fair. However from what I have seen he takes the approach of someone who finds a spider in their house and instead of flipping out and trying to kill it, puts it in a glass and releases it outside.

I agree that comparing people to invasive pests is not exactly the nicest view to have, but he has never implied he wants to see people die for it. At worst, he wants them to leave and go be in their own country.

Grouping him up with the murderous white nationalists who just want to kill everyone who is not white is no different than people who group all Muslims together with the ones that want to kill all non-muslims.

You seriously need to calm down.

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okay... gimmie like... 10-15 minutes to process all of this, i'm still reading... god damn it...

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>>243647
Fuck me!

Please just let it go.

Read what a lost pony said. Your passive aggressive attacks against me are helping no one.

It's quite obvious that we both disagree massively, but we share this chan and I'd rather we have a good relationship on it. Both for our own sackes aswell as everyone else who comes here.

I disagree with just about everyone here, and I get into long arguments about my disagreements on a semi regular basis, sometimes I'm even persuaded by what someone else says. But outright attacking me because of my beliefs is different. Say whatever you want about me, argue anything with me, but don't attack me like you're doing now. Who does that help?

Believe it or not I actually like you. Don't let this one argument ruin that.

This! >>243652

Please calm down.

>>243654
Don't worry about it.

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>>243656
Well considering that I'm a part of this chan and it's culture as much as yourself, I'd like to read about what may or may not be changing in the coming future in personal relations.

Aaaaand at the same time, try and figure out everyone's take on all of this.

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>>243652
>I've never seen him do that.
Uhhh... the whole first thread he made here. I kept asking him how he plans to deal with all these others, if not genocide, and that was his plan. He thinks jews and im guessing any "others" should not have rights in society, and should be oppressed, and in the case of the jews, should be forced to only live within isreal...

He's said it IIT
>>243597
>Try to see this from my perspective. (even if you think my perspective is complete nonsense) They are the ones that have invaded our homeland, and in return we have shown tolerance to them and given them all the same rights, opportunities, and privileges that we give our own people. (if not more so for them) In return they have raped our women, stolen from us, and committed acts of terrorism against our people, to name a few things. All I want to do is rightfully deport them for the crimes they have committed against our people.

a lost pony !piNKiEPie. (ID: 4b9cd0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243660

>>243651
>you likened me to being as bad as people who throw bricks at the heads of Hispanic people, and

Wow did i say that? No wonder you got pissed at me.

Look dude, if you want to behave like i do, that's your prerogative. I'm just recommending you cool off a minute, is all. I dont think it's going to convince him his views are wrong to approach it this way, any more than i convinced you saying the stuff i did to you.

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>>243658
tl;dr

Guy in New Zealand goes on a rampage in a mosque, kills 40 people, posts the video online.

Mint says "I don't condone what he did, but I don't blame him for thinking the way he does." (Guy also makes reference to a bunch of memes right before the shooting, some of which Mint found funny)

MK loses his shit.

Defcon 4 damage control ensues.

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>>243652
>However from what I have seen he takes the approach of someone who finds a spider in their house and instead of flipping out and trying to kill it, puts it in a glass and releases it outside.
That doesn't sound like "stripped of their rights" to you?

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>>243661
I'm about a third of the way through, as I'm trying to get an idea of everyone's side and have a proper understanding of all of this going on in here, the thread, and not jumping to baseless accusations and hatred towards other users and/or races.

I appreciate the TL:DR but for once I'd like to see the whole picture and not just the thumbnail, if you catch my drift.

a lost pony !piNKiEPie. (ID: 4b9cd0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243664

>>243656
You linked me by mistake, i think you meant to link MK.

This is what you can expect when you tell a story about how you think a racist song is funny that is in context of a massive race-based killing spree.

I hope you learned something from this. Seriously though, you are sounding frantic right now. Please take a break, this sperg-out can get a lot, lot worse if you don't stop here.

Trust me. I make the same mistake. Its time to take a break now.

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>>243662
Depends on the perspective. If a spider makes a nest/web in your house without your permission and you throw it outside, are you violating it's rights? From the perspective of someone who thinks the way Mint does, this doesn't seem horrible, or a violation of anything.

But that's only if you view them as an invasive species and not as a roommate.

Again, I'm not saying his viewpoint is correct, but the way opinions work rely heavily on linchpin core values.

If you were to ask Mint if it was okay to go over to your neighbor's house, drag him outside and throw him out of the neighborhood, I'm pretty sure he'd say that was wrong. But that is how YOU view the situation, just as if I asked you the question at the beginning of this post that if you did the same to a spider in your house, you probably wouldn't have any moral objections to it.

The thing is, you and Mint probably have incredibly similar views as far as rights and human life is concerned. The only difference is the perspective you each are viewing the situation from.

Mk17 (ID: 38128a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243666

>>243660
Yes, you did.

And whatever dude, your defending him because you think he is your bf, and i get that. But i mean, at some point, he needs to learn that when you defend the ideology that leads to the death or real world people, before the bodies are even cold, your going to lose friends and respect.

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>>243663
Fair enough.

Mk17 (ID: 38128a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243668

>>243665
So a spider and a human being are on par now?

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>>243668
No. I'm saying that if a view is distorting your ability to see things for what they are, it doesn't mean your core values as an individual are flawed. It simply means that the initial viewpoint is fucking up the way those values are presented.

Veiwing people as invasive insects is wrong. Yes. However if that is how someone is viewing it, THAT is the problem that needs to be addressed. Not all the moral decisions that trickle down from that initial perceptive flaw.
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>>243670
I think its not that he can't see it.

its more of a he doesn't really like that view.

Mk17 (ID: 38128a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243673

>>243670
I never said he dosnt have core values, i said that its fucked up that he says he is willing to set those core values aside for the "necessary evils" of his ideology that he views as an unfortunate truth.

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>>243658
I went way too far and said some things that I regret, and then Mk started to slander me and get really passive aggressive. This caused my mental state to slowly deteriorate over the course of several hours, and I started to believe that everyone in the thread was out to get me, which meant that I took things way too personally and said a few more things that I shouldn't have.

Then Mks slander and passive aggression turned into attacking and genuine full blown aggression. I tried desperately to apologise for offending him in several posts. He use these posts as a spring board to attack me further. And now I'm EXTREMELY depressed to the point where writing this simple paragraph is meatily challenging.

>>243661
Also this.

>>243664
Sorry I'll edit that.

I'm okay btw, we'll talk later on messenger.

>>243665
Again I'm going to respond to this properly once I'm feeling better.

>The thing is, you and Mint probably have incredibly similar views as far as rights and human life is concerned. The only difference is the perspective you each are viewing the situation from.


This!

I agree with most of what Mk says, this is one of the only things that we disagree on. If anything because I'm so heavily into veaganism this applies to me more than it does him. Your spider example may be more than a purely hypocrite situation for me.

>>243668
No, she's obviously just trying to view things from my perspective, using that as an example.

Maybe you'd do better if you tried that.

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>>243665
>>243670
The difference in perspective doesn't even matter, because Mint doesn't even care if they had permission or not. He literally wants to take Jewish UK citizens and give them a choice between A) becoming second-class citizens, and B) deportation. Citizens. What greater form of permission is there?

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It is not enough that he should be imprisoned for life. He should be condemned to death. People who operate like this do not belong anywhere, even in a cell and outcast from society.

a lost pony !piNKiEPie. (ID: 4b9cd0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243678

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>>243666
Nice trips!

I thought i was just jumping in to stir up shit with you cuz i miss talking to you, but i like your answer better.

Srsly tho you're right. Minty's gotta learn, im working on that. And i'm sorry about that brick bullshit, that was way over the top.

­Tr­­­a­­­c­er B­­ull­­­­e­t (ID: 91f5ab)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243679

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>>243677
He'll be considered a martyr to some if that's the case.

Just saw his "Circle game" picture from the courthouse, doesn't seem to be any regret from him.

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>>243676
They'd have all the same rights as White people, other than the fact that they'd be excluded from positions of power and influence. I.E. the government, the media, banking.

The average working and even middle class Jew wouldn't see much of a difference in terms of the law.

>>243677
We moved on for that about 8-10 hours ago.

>>243678
>666

Mk is literally the devil, confirmed! Your argument is invalid.

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>>243673
You have to understand that from his perspective they aren't a choice. The are and people he's grown up around have basically told him "take this view or be destroyed." This is obviously not true, but that is what he has been told his entire life, so I'm sure you can see why he'd have reservations about just completely dumping the thing he percieves is keeping him safe based on the world of some people on the internet on the other side of the planet.

I'm not asking you to agree with his points of view. I'm asking you to have empathy for the situation he believes himself to be in.

>>243676
>The difference in perspective doesn't even matter, because Mint doesn't even care if they had permission or not. He literally wants to take Jewish UK citizens and give them a choice between A) becoming second-class citizens, and B) deportation. Citizens. What greater form of permission is there?

The thing is this. From what Mint has told me, he also believes that say if he went to India for example and decided to live there that he himself should be treated as a second class citizens to the native Indians because it's THEIR country, not his. That is the mindset he works from. It's less about being superior and more about "My house, my rules".

Again, I'm not making EXCUSES for his beliefs. I'm trying to give PERSPECTIVE as to why someone who isn't inherently an asshole might have them.

­Tr­­­a­­­c­er B­­ul­l­­­­e­t (ID: 91f5ab)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243683

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>>243678
You're working on it as in you're suggesting he get actual help from people who have professional experience.

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It's strange. I used to not be affected by things like this. But recently, whenever I learn of it, it just throws me into this deep feeling of despair. I can't even get angry, I just feel so sad and hopeless over the fact that someone could even do that.

Mk17 (ID: 38128a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243686

>>243674
>He use these posts as a spring board to attack me further.
You dont seem to get that im attacking your ideology.
Its just to bad that you identify with it so strongly that its difficult to separate it from yourself.
I never you YOU are a bad person, i said YOU are going to be judged by the company you keep, and this is just an "unfortunate truth" of the situation.

You defend 8chan
You defend these ideologies
You make the argument that those killed are genetically inferior.
You align yourself with these people

Sorry if i dont have sympathy for your crocodile tears now, because THIS is the reality of the path you are going down, and the farther you go down it, the more you are indoctrinated, the more of (((this))) you can expect.

I've put up with you "being okay" with oppressing my friends and family for long enough, but when you do it in the face of real world mass killings... im not going to anymore.

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>>243685
Humans are indeed wonderful creatures.

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>>243680
Jews were forced into finance because of anti-semitism to begin with. Now they should be forced out because they actually became too good at it?

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>>243686
>>243674

And iv told you this before, I told you if you keep calling yourself a nazi and parroting their doctrine that at some point it was going to lead to this.

So good, your depressed, you should be depressed, how do you think the families of the people who are being killed and those oppressed feel?

Probably a lot worse than you do.

So you laughed at them, now maybe I dont feel so bad laughing at you.

a lost pony !piNKiEPie. (ID: 4b9cd0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243691

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>>243680
>mk is the devil cuz (666 trips)

Well he IS white, so...he's qualified.

(Not really sure this is best time to be joking, isn't finding a video funny what got u in trouble itt in the first place?)

>>243683
I didnt say im actually being helpful...

>>243686
>attacking ideology not minty personally
I think you kinda did attack him personally, in that you said he shares responsibility for the killings...

>>243682
It's true, Minty's barely ever even SEEN a non-white person except working in stores where he buys stuff. No non-white classmates, or teachers, or friends of the family or neighbors.

That's gotta screw with his worldview.

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>>243691
Oh, well, as long as you realize your limitations in this regard then.

Mk17 (ID: 38128a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243694

>>243691
>in that you said he shares responsibility for the killings...
Well, he does. He propagates the ideas behind them, and he says he agrees with the ideology of the killer.

Just as the prison guard that watch the jews come out of the gas chambers as dead bodies shares responsibility for their death.

And im not being hyperbolic, because he is a literal nazi.

a lost pony !piNKiEPie. (ID: 4b9cd0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243695

>>243690
This, Minty.

This is what you kinda shoulda expected.

As a sperg myself, i relate to the cycle you went through itt. I experienced it when i ruined my friendship with MK, and something similar two weeks ago that got me a nice ban from ponyville and a dedicated hate-lostpony thread thats still going today.

Btw MK our issue came up over there from an anon who says im "generally untrustworthy". Its a fun thread, you should check it out.

In conclusion Minty please focus on the take-away here: espousing racist doctrines is something that is always going to come back to bite your ass.

It's a good place to start, when considering whether your ideals are a good idea.

-Z- (ID: b9cf29)Country code: mlpchan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  243696

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So, just as an FYI I'm not gonna get between Mk17 and Mint's squabble here... and I know I'm not going to make any friends here for this... buuuut...

>Mint

Your ideology is shit. Plain and simple. Saying you're not going to change because you can't is just an excuse to continue without having to put in the effort to actually change. You're not allowed to have the same mentality as those who scoff and laugh at what has happened and then try and garner sympathy because "well I would never do that". You keep the same company as murderers and psychopaths and you'll be identified as one.
Note: I don't dislike you, but you need to change something man. If you're willingly going to fight to keep this view... then yeah, don't be surprised if people stop talking or even interacting with you. Please do yourself the favor, and work on yourself.

>Mk17

Okay, I can understand you being upset over both Mint and this whole scenario, but you need to get off of your soapbox and take in some time to breath and look around you. Constantly going after someone who is not willing to change is a pointless, uphill battle that unless threatened with actual consequences... it's doubtful they'd change even the smallest thing. Making light of the situation and being upset that someone would start making jokes already is also understandable as to why you'd be upset, but all tragedies are met with some form of comedy to cope. Look at The Challenger, Sandyhook, 9/11, etc. It's a way of us as humans to be able to actually relieve some of the tension and reflect on them. If we acted as though all forms of comedy about tragedies are considered taboo, that just opens a pandora's box as to what is and isn't okay to joke about. There is a proper time to start joking, and it's obviously not now. Now is a time to grieve, and to remember those who were lost in this moment. You'd best do yourself the favor and take some time to breath and relax, because if you keep this all up you're going to give yourself an aneurysm.

>To everyone else still talking

Stop. The time for discussion has come and gone. This is no longer a discussion or reflection on what has happened, this is now about trying to pick which side you're going to argue for. The fact that Mods haven't locked this thread as a whole is deplorable, as over 2 hours ago this was already a complete shitshow.

We could do all of ourselves a grand favor and take the time to pull away from our keyboard and do something more constructive then just sit here and type away at each other.

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>>243695
>hate-lostpony thread thats still going today

there's a hate lost pony thread?

a lost pony !piNKiEPie. (ID: 4b9cd0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  243703

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>>243693
>limitations

Im pretty much good for consuming oxygen, and helping keep chairs from floating away, and not really much else.

>>243697
>hate lostpony thread
Sure, im taped silent in the /canterlot town square, securely locked into the stocks for your amusement. Bring rotten tomatoes, the shit the villagers are slinging is getting a bit stale tbh.

It's a lot more fun than this thread or the shit that earned me the nice reward tho.

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>>243696
>Making light of the situation and being upset that someone would start making jokes already is also understandable as to why you'd be upset, but all tragedies are met with some form of comedy to cope.
Let me make it clear, its not that he was laughing about this, its that he believes in it.
I make jokes to cope, you know i have a dark sense of humor. But its the making light of it then saying "but, really i do believe in what the killer stood for" is the issue.

There is a stark difference.

>Constantly going after someone who is not willing to change is a pointless, uphill battle that unless threatened with actual consequences...

Maybe i think this kid is worth that battle.

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>>243682
>The thing is this. From what Mint has told me, he also believes that say if he went to India for example and decided to live there that he himself should be treated as a second class citizens to the native Indians because it's THEIR country, not his. That is the mindset he works from. It's less about being superior and more about "My house, my rules".

Why is Toy the only one that's able to grasp this. I'm starting to think that some other people understand my viewpoint perfectly, but just choose to express otherwise. Because it doesn't make sense that she can understand this right down to the letter, but everyone else seems completely oblivious.

All I want is a homeland for my people, and because I'm so emotionally invested in that I can easily see and respect that need in others. I'd never consider permanently moving to Japan even though I love the country because I respect their right to be Japanese in Japan. I'd be okay with moving there for a few years because I wouldn't mind if vice versa was true.

>>243686
>You dont seem to get that im attacking your ideology.

You can do that far more effectively without getting too angry about it. Also I don't think you can claim that everything you've posted in this thread was purely "attacking my ideology," you're clearly venting. You should have said that you had a problem with me earlier rather than building it up.

>I've put up with you "being okay" with oppressing my friends and family for long enough, but when you do it in the face of real world mass killings... im not going to anymore.


As I said this thread was a mistake. I'm really sorry for posting anything here at all, but I understand that you don't care about that.

I don't blame you btw, this was mostly my fault if not watching what I was saying. I'm aware that my views can be very volatile and usually watch how articulate things because of that. There was no right way to articulate anything I've said in this thread.

>>243690

>So you laughed at them, now maybe I dont feel so bad laughing at you.


I didn't laugh at them I laughed at a stupid song.

Stop bringing this up, I've eady apologised.

Laugh at me all you want, I don't care what you think at this point. I just hope things will be better tomorrow.

>>243696
This was a really good analysis.

>Please do yourself the favor, and work on yourself.


I'm genuinely trying, but at the same time I don't want to lie to myself. I'm trying to find a good balance between my political beliefs and being a nice person. My problem is that I'm stubborn and thus not willing to give any side leeway.

I spent 3/4 of writing this literally just doing nothing but feeling sorry for myself. I got way too invested in this conversation.

I'm going to take a step back now, like Z suggested. I would suggest to everyone else that we leave this at least until tomorrow.

>The fact that Mods haven't locked this thread as a whole is deplorable, as over 2 hours ago this was already a complete shitshow.


I don't want this thread to be locked. I still have a lot to say, I'm just too depressed to say it now.

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