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Border Wall prototypes are useless trash a lost pony !piNKiEPie. (ID: e853bf)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid:   218910[Last 50 Posts]

Yup, they've all failed the tests and have all been easily penetrated by basic tools. Yes, Mexicans have access to tools, at least the ones Trump is so scared of.

https://www.newsweek.com/border-wall-breach-tests-cbp-report-trump-cost-customs-failure-mexico-1128900

On the upside, since he's going with "steel slats" which were easily cut with hand saws, then at least the starving wretches will be able to carry some salvage metals with them when they come in, and will get a good scrap rate for them too thanks to Trumpy's steel tariffs.


Also, Trump storms out of negotiations then his supporters claim the Dems refuse to negotiate. They're sitting at the table, he stomped off in a tiff. Yeeeeah that's the Dems acting in bad faith.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/analysis-‘he’s-a-gut-politician’-trump’s-go-to-negotiating-tactics-aren’t-working-in-shutdown-standoff/ar-BBS2vJF?ocid=spartanntp


Oh yeah, the $5B cost, on the campaign trail he said he could do it for 4, then 8, then 12 and ultimately said it could cost $20bil. I dunno what he actually is going to accomplish for $5Bil but, it's all going straight into the pockets of his own corporate interests as a steel guy (hm funny that's his first round of tariffs too, leaving manufactured goods to flow in untariffed) so if ANYone is still fooled that he gives a shit about security, y'all just too dumb to take seriously.


Oh yeah, I bet no one even missed me. Well, ta ta for now, ponies.

(ID: 50ed5d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218911

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ah man, wtf i hate the idea of a wall now

a wall cannot stop teleportation, waste of money

back to the drawing board

a lost pony !piNKiEPie. (ID: e853bf)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218915

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>>218911
nuthin wrong with a buncha loose razor wire coils, I'm sure there's enough piled up in warehouses somewhere if people really want something done for a border. Cheap to make and install, easy to maintain, inconvenient and painful to get through. That'd at least be a nice visible deterrent and the entire project could easily come out of the existing security funds.

You could get a buncha convicts out there to pile up a couple-foot-tall rock wall to be under the wire, problem solved.

(ID: 50ed5d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218917

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>>218915
idk, i mean i for one have always seen a flaw with the wall

theres always going to be

but on the other hand you can always add new technology to it

i know people will say "ThE WAlL iS USlesS BecUAUSE PeOpLe OvERsTAY DuR ViSaS"

thats true but people need to stop denying that drug smuggling and human trafficking DOES happen at the border

whats wrong a physical barrier to at least try to prevent it?
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Anonymous (ID: 0188fc)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218918

>>218910
It would be cheaper and more effective to just lace with border with landmines and/or use drones to shoot any illegals crossing the border. Unfortunately I don't think the Dems would go for this either though.

Hißp !ArepaaIqL. (ID: bb1405)Country code: ve, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218919

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Oh, this subject again...

This is on the whole internet, if this continues I will have to buy some Legos.

(ID: 50ed5d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218920

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>>218919
>if this continues I will have to buy some Legos.
then you can build a wall

Hißp !ArepaaIqL. (ID: bb1405)Country code: ve, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218922

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>>218920

I was considering to build a model of Starlight Glimmer so I can draw her better.

(ID: 50ed5d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218923

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>>218922
do it and show me the results

Hißp !ArepaaIqL. (ID: bb1405)Country code: ve, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218924

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>>218923

Sorry Mike.

You know I only draw naked mares.

(ID: 50ed5d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218925

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>>218924
pretty much 99% of all the mares are naked though

Hißp !ArepaaIqL. (ID: bb1405)Country code: ve, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218927

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>>218925

Crazy, isn't it?

This thread itself is full of naked mares.

(ID: 50ed5d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218928

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>>218927
its always worth considering

naked =/= lewdness

Hißp !ArepaaIqL. (ID: bb1405)Country code: ve, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218930

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>>218928

Thread sucessfully derailed

(ID: 50ed5d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218934

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>>218930
good. its a dry topic anyway.

Hißp !ArepaaIqL. (ID: bb1405)Country code: ve, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218935

>>218934

Yes, Let us talk about Oil.
Oil is good, please buy.

fleur (ID: 861cef)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218936

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Mk17 (p-hone) (ID: 514b77)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218937

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>>218919
>>218923
>>218924
>>218925
>>218927
>>218928
>>218930
>>218934
I think this is my favorite conversation on the internet.

(ID: 50ed5d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218938

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>>218935
oil is a necessity, certainly

one day, my friend

one day

>>218937
as it should be

Hißp !ArepaaIqL. (ID: bb1405)Country code: ve, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218940

>>218937

There are better ones, imo.

>>218938

Don't think too much about it, Mike.
When investing in Oil you can be sure your money is save and backed by a strong commodity and you help Hispanons to get their monthly ration.

Mk17 (p-hone) (ID: 514b77)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218942

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>>218935
I'll take olive if you've got it

(ID: 50ed5d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218944

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>>218940
sadly i dont own a car anymore

and i hate driving

Hißp !ArepaaIqL. (ID: bb1405)Country code: ve, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218945

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>>218942


Talk to Portugal or Israel.

We only produce synthetic lubricants.

Hißp !ArepaaIqL. (ID: bb1405)Country code: ve, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218946

>>218944

Why don't you like it?

fleur (ID: 861cef)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218947

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I can think of one reason why I don't want a wall, I want to be able to visit hisp and go visit zona rosa with him while holding hands.

(ID: 50ed5d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218949

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>>218946
because people in florida drive like shit

i feel like im going to die everytime i drive

Hißp !ArepaaIqL. (ID: bb1405)Country code: ve, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218950

>>218949

Can't be worse than Russia.

At least you have license, I am 22 and haven't gotten mine yet.

Hißp !ArepaaIqL. (ID: bb1405)Country code: ve, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218951

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fleur (ID: 861cef)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218952

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(ID: 50ed5d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218954

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>>218950
i have a licence but its not worth having when everyone else drives like shit

Hißp !ArepaaIqL. (ID: bb1405)Country code: ve, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218955

>>218954

I thought people took driving seriously there.

Hißp !ArepaaIqL. (ID: bb1405)Country code: ve, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218956

Mk17 (p-hone) (ID: 514b77)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218957

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>>218945
>We only produce synthetic lubricants.
>pic related

>>218954
>everyone else drives like shit
I've seen some shit o.0

(ID: 50ed5d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218958

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>>218955
not in florida

they dont even use turn signals which royally pisses me off

other states maybe

>>218957
you've seen first hand of our dumbass drivers

fleur (ID: 861cef)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218959

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>>218956
*wiggles butt at u.
>>218957
Could use some lube for hisp funs
>>218958
Seattle drivers are the worst, the asian driver meme is real.

Mk17 (p-hone) (ID: 514b77)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218960

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>>218958
On that trip i have to give the worst driver award to NJ.

Considering someone rolled their car over in front of me and the 14 accidents i had to sit through on the way back haha
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Hißp !ArepaaIqL. (ID: bb1405)Country code: ve, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218962

>>218957

Oh boi.

>>218958

Florida is an interesting place.

>>218959

Someone is getting naughty

(ID: 50ed5d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218963

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>>218959
>>218960
i refuse to believe there are worse drivers than Floridians

>>218962
oh it is

fleur (ID: 861cef)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218964

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>>218962
teehee
>>218963
You'd be suprised...

Mythix!wG1CV58ydQ (ID: d8496b)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218965

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>>218963
A tow truck crashed into me in Houston. I would say Houston has pretty bad drivers.

Hißp !ArepaaIqL. (ID: bb1405)Country code: ve, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218966

>>218963
>there are worse drivers than Floridians

Russians.

>>218964

mhm!

fleur (ID: 861cef)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218967

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>>218966
u like dat fleur booty~

(ID: 50ed5d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218968

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>>218965
i guess

>>218966
fair enough then

Mk17 (p-hone) (ID: 514b77)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218969

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>>218965
>A tow truck crashed into me in Houston.
Did he tow you home for free?

He better have...

Vio Lette!qXZZ8NDkR. (ID: 0fa298)Country code: au, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218970

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I've heard in defence of how useless a border wall would be, the wall is more of a statement than a preventative measure. Well, if it's just a statement, it's a pretty fucking expensive statement!

Hißp !ArepaaIqL. (ID: bb1405)Country code: ve, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218971

>>218967

>pinches cheek

(ID: 50ed5d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218973

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>>218970
yeah, funny you say that as someone who lives on a island in the middle of nowhere

you and a lot of people dont have a single clue on what goes on at the border
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Vio Lette!qXZZ8NDkR. (ID: 0fa298)Country code: au, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218975

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>>218973
Well, being a country that doesn't have land-borders with other countries, our immigrants can't walk into our country, yet they still manage to get in. Funny that! Also, get a load of what past Trump has to say on walls; Trump In 2004 To Grads: 'Go Over...Go Around' Concrete Wall | NBC News
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Anonymous (ID: 03700d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218976

>>218975
You should improve your navy to stop them.
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(ID: 50ed5d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218977

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>>218975
maybe you guys should focus on abos huffing petrol and laying in the streets and less on us?

Anonymous (ID: 03700d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218978

Can abos breed with human beings and produce fertile offspring?

Vio Lette!qXZZ8NDkR. (ID: 0fa298)Country code: au, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218980

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>>218976
Or we could, you know, provide to foreigners in need?
>>218977
Now you're just trying to be mean on purposes. Here's a hint; That's not a good way to get people to agree with you.
Also, are you bipolar? I seem to recall you being anti-Trump despite your right-wing views, but here you are coming in defence of him. Also, you're the admin of this site, and you're ditching legitimate discussion in favour of personal attacks? What, the fuck, is up, with you?!

(ID: 50ed5d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218982

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>>218980
no? i just say it like it is

Anonymous (ID: 03700d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218983

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>>218980
>being anti-Trump despite your right-wing views, but here you are coming in defence of him
Being against Trump doesn't mean being against all of his policy positions. Trump is a moron, a liar, and generally a horrible human being. But at least he isn't a complete sell-out to corporate interests, and some of his ideas aren't bad.

Vio Lette!qXZZ8NDkR. (ID: 0fa298)Country code: au, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218984

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>>218982
Way to pull a Steam Twist and ignore the bigger picture in favour of just one small fragment of a post. I pointed out three things:
1) You disregarded any hope of keeping the discussion civil and turned to personal attacks
2) As admin of this site, that's the type of thing you're supposed to prevent
3) The way you're defending Trump seems contradictory to your past statements on him
And yet, all you responded to was "Are you bipolar?".

(ID: 50ed5d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218985

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>>218984
>Way to pull a Steam Twist and ignore the bigger picture in favour of just one small fragment of a post. I pointed out three things:
nothing to do with anything so cool
>1) You disregarded any hope of keeping the discussion civil and turned to personal attacks
you said something stupid so i went with it
>2) As admin of this site, that's the type of thing you're supposed to prevent
go to weenie hut jr then
>3) The way you're defending Trump seems contradictory to your past statements on him
>And yet, all you responded to was "Are you bipolar?
nah, i dont even like trump but i know the wall has its benefits

>And yet, all you responded to was "Are you bipolar

YOU DID lmao

Anonymous (ID: 03700d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218986

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>>218984
Um, I think you're over-reacting a bit. Mikie's post >>218977 isn't really a personal attack, it's really more of just a joke or something.

(ID: 50ed5d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218987

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Vio Lette!qXZZ8NDkR. (ID: 0fa298)Country code: au, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218988

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>>218985
>you said something stupid so i went with it
How is the fact that there are ways to get across a border besides walking across a stupid point? If Trump's wall ever gets built, it won't stop immigrants completely, so is it really worth 5 billion dollars to essentially just say "Stay out of our country"?

Anonymous (ID: 03700d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218989

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>>218988
>If Trump's wall ever gets built, it won't stop immigrants completely
But it will increase the risks to the illegals and decrease their expected value of illegally crossing the border. Plus the wall won't just be there by itself; it will be combined with other border security measures that make it more effective.

🐈🐈Dodger🐈🐈!FGiFL0Ecls (ID: e441c4)Country code: windows9x.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  218990

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We need a wall to match Israel's, like a little cock cage

Anonymous (ID: 03700d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218991

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(ID: 50ed5d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218992

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🐈🐈Dodger🐈🐈!FGiFL0Ecls (ID: e441c4)Country code: windows9x.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  218993

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>>218991
The wall's not to keep them out, its to keep us in

Vio Lette!qXZZ8NDkR. (ID: 0fa298)Country code: au, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218994

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>>218989
>>218992
>decrease their expected value of illegally crossing the border.
I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. Are you saying people will consider it less worthwhile to cross the border? If anything, a wall essentially serves as a sign that something is worth protecting, so if anything, it would have the opposite effect if that's what you meant.
>Plus the wall won't just be there by itself; it will be combined with other border security measures that make it more effective
Well, if Trump knows how ineffective a border wall would be on its own, why not just have the other security measures in place instead? Boat patrols and security stations don't require a 5 billion dollar wall!

Noonim (ID: 3c280e)Country code: mlpchan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  218995

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>>218970
It also helps make things a bit more difficult. But, you have to use a proper wall, not some cheap chain fence. Needs to be made of proper concrete, solid and tall.

Israel's wall seems to do okay, from what I understand. We should make one like that.

Noonim (ID: 3c280e)Country code: mlpchan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  218996

>>218988
>it won't stop immigrants completely
It will lower, potentially, illegal immigrants significantly.
Mind the illegal part. I'm sure it was just assumed, but, I've heard a lot of people try to equate the two. I'd wager you aren't, but, still.

(ID: 50ed5d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218998

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>>218994
>border? If anything, a wall essentially serves as a sign that something is worth protecting, so if anything, it would have the opposite effect if that's what you meant.
what are you saying? are you saying it has an effect?
> Boat patrols and security stations don't require a 5 billion dollar wall!
okay but its a physical wall

Noonim (ID: 3c280e)Country code: mlpchan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  218999

>>218994
>I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. Are you saying people will consider it less worthwhile to cross the border? If anything, a wall essentially serves as a sign that something is worth protecting, so if anything, it would have the opposite effect if that's what you meant.
I'd assume he means that it's a much more risky venture, when the odds of success are lower.
Risk-benefit, basically. If they're going to have a harder time of crossing, if it is more risky and costs more, they're less likely to try.

>Well, if Trump knows how ineffective a border wall would be on its own, why not just have the other security measures in place instead? Boat patrols and security stations don't require a 5 billion dollar wall!

I'm not convinced a wall wouldn't help with that, though. Like I said, seems to work for other nations. Hell, most places you want people to keep out of have walls.

Anonymous (ID: 03700d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219001

>>218994
>why not just have the other security measures in place instead?
Because that would be less effective than having the combination of the wall plus the other measures.

>I'm not quite sure what you mean by that.

Expected value is the probability-weighted average of all possible values. So if the wall has a chance of preventing a migrant from getting away with illegally entering the country (perhaps because the wall slows him down long enough for the Border Patrol to come and apprehend him), the expected value is decreased.

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I don't think we should even bother talking about border walls. What about the problem of exploitive corporations using immigrants as cheap labor because they can't protest, laying off everyone in the USA who actually has worker's rights? If we fixed that, we wouldn't need a wall.

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the low IQ squad has arrived

Noonim (ID: 3c280e)Country code: mlpchan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  219005

>>219002
I'd agree there. However, I think the bulk of this issue has to be solved at the state level, and unfortunately, many states are so deep in the pocket of companies and corrupt to the bone that I doubt there'd be a good solution without fucking up massive chunks of the way our country works, not to mention putting the power in the hands of the also known to be corrupt Feds.

Better to just nuke the foreigners until they can't come here any more.

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>>219004
Alternatively, Mexico could fix its issues, and not be such a massive shithole that everyone runs away from it.

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>>219007
finally got a reason to ban garbage

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>>218998
>what are you saying? are you saying it has an effect?
I'm saying that essentially having giant "keep out" sign would make people think "There must be something good in there if they don't want us to have it!"
>>218999
>Hell, most places you want people to keep out of have walls.
But the thing is, most countries that have walls are more to keep their own citizens IN rather than keep foreigners OUT. North Korea and East Germany, anyone?
>>219002
This. Conservatives complain "They turk err jerbs!", but what they should really be complaining about are the companies that give jobs to immigrants in the first place!
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>>219009
yeah true so fuck off with gun control

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>>219009
In some cases, sure. Not all of them, though. There's plenty of cases of walls being used to keep other people out.

Besides, that proves my point.
The wall's effective, it's just those two cases they were turned towards a different direction.

>I'm saying that essentially having giant "keep out" sign would make people think "There must be something good in there if they don't want us to have it!

Alternatively, if there's a big fuckoff wall covered in security cameras with barbed wire all around, I might think "Gee, I don't want to risk going in there. I might get shot or thrown in jail".

Vio Lette!qXZZ8NDkR. (ID: 0fa298)Country code: au, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219012

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>>219010
Aw, come on! Do you really think that's comparable? But while we're on the topic, I've seen you say your concern about gun control is not so much people not being able to buy guns anymore, but rather people who already have guns having them taken away. The latter is not what gun control is about!

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>>219012
why not? same logic applies

Noonim (ID: 3c280e)Country code: mlpchan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  219014

>>219012
Pretty sure it's both. Gun confiscations are a fairly common thing to have happen. The government'll find whatever reason they can, as is. Besides that, the arguments used for regulation and restriction obviously can be used for items already owned by individuals.
If it's not safe to sell, say, a 30 round magazine, why is it safe to let people own those 30 round magazines?

🐈🐈Dodger🐈🐈!FGiFL0Ecls (ID: e441c4)Country code: windows9x.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  219015

>>219014
because they will shoot you lol

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>>219015
Tbh, this is the practical reason, yeah.
"Because I'll shoot you if you do that" pretty well ends most these issues.

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>>219005

It's like nuking cockroaches. If you don't get the food put away properly, then they'll never stop being a problem.

Meanwhile said corrupt officials use your desire to nuke the Mexicans to justify taking away even more of your freedom. Your papers please and two forms of photo ID or you can't get a library card.

Anonymous (ID: 03700d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219021

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>>218910
If God exists and is all-powerful, can he build a wall so high that the Mexicans can't climb over it even if the Dems supply them the ladders?

🐈🐈Dodger🐈🐈!FGiFL0Ecls (ID: e441c4)Country code: windows9x.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  219022

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>>219021
My child, the wall you speak of is IQ

a lost pony !piNKiEPie. (ID: 1ac61c)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219024

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>>219021
Sure, if the Mexicans or the Dems pay for it.

>>218937
I built it just for you, and you came.

>>219012
Whats the gun law like down under anyway

>>218993
Exactly

>>219008
I missed it

Mint horse (ID: 3c4e4c)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219027

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>>218910
I completely agree, walls are extremely expensive and inefficient, there only useful if you have people defending them otherwise people will easily break, go over, or under the wall with little to no trouble. The US Mexican boarder is way to big to effectively defend without pouring absurd amounts of money and the military to defend it.

Thats why I suggest using landmines. They cost next to nothing, can't be gotten through without extremely expensive specialised equipment, you don't need anywhere near the same number of soldiers defending them as you would a wall, they are a permanent solution so much so that after a few decades or even centuries they still kill people, a good example of this would be WWI bombs and mines that still occasionally go of throughout Europe, and they scare people far more than some 10ft wall even could.

Unfortunately you guys will never effectively defend your border because the average American thinks a few thousand dead Mexicans are worse than their country being invaded by a few million Mexicans.

a lost pony !piNKiEPie. (ID: 1ac61c)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219028

>>219027
Someone already suggested land mines.

How do you like razor wire?

Mint horse (ID: 3c4e4c)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219029

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>>219027
I almost forgot to leave this here

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>>219028
If you're going to build a wall then it's a must have. I'd say that you should build a razor wire topped wall on some of the more sensitive or vital areas of the border, but most of the border defence should just be land mines.

Anonymous (ID: 1b9414)Country code: tux.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  219034

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"most honest president in modern history!"

"Totally clears the President. Thank you!"

"Very Stable Genius!"

“I don’t have temper tantrums."

"I would say, 'Mexico is going to pay for it,' obviously, I never said this and I never meant they're going to write out a check."


I think the 25th Amendment will be invoked before impeachment. That boy aint right in the head.

Mk17 (p-hone) (ID: 514b77)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219042

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Werent we talking about legos iit?

Who would have guessed that a thread OP that started with stuff like "Trumpys steel tariffs" and a bunch of inflammatory shit would have little legit discussion, and end in a bunch of bullshit instead?

Didnt we use to call that feeding the parasprite?

Starshine!Laura/wmXM (ID: 90a2fd)Country code: lunachan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  219048

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>>218917


Anyway, let's build the wall out of Legos, maybe that'd be cheaper and probably just as effective.

Mikie(phone)!GlimDubEqI (ID: 18c618)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219049

>>219048
Abuse of power? Now this is suddenly a thing? Now people suddenly see This?

It took donald trump to see this

*sigh*

>nbc news source

You'd get on my case if I used fox news
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Starshine!Laura/wmXM (ID: 90a2fd)Country code: lunachan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  219052

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>>219049
It was bad then and it's bad now. When have I ever defended Barack "Drone 'em All" Obama?

>You'd get on my case if I used fox news

Well, for one thing, try me. It depends on the nature of the article (opinion piece versus breaking news versus factual/scientific report), and some sources are more trustworthy than others, but genetic fallacy is only okay when it's The Daily Mail not an argument. Reading an article and verifying its claims and data is always a more effective refutation than rejecting it offhand for being from a given outlet, whether it's Fox or CNN, unless it's a known satire publication like The Onion or something.

The reason I linked those articles is because their data is gathered from more trustworthy primary sources, which are directly linked: CDC, the DEA, Homeland Security, etc.

Starshine!Laura/wmXM (ID: 90a2fd)Country code: lunachan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  219054

Of course, one could call into question how trustworthy all of these organizations are too, but there does come a point where we have to just take their word for it, lest we become so "skeptical" we unironically consider the possibility of a flat earth.

Mikie(phone)!GlimDubEqI (ID: 18c618)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219055

>>219052
You may have not but others have

It annoys me so much when I have been saying this for years

Now that Trump does the same thing everyone suddenly cares about spending and the constitution

Like lmao what?

As for the sources fair enough

Don't know what good that is for pointing out prototypes

Starshine!Laura/wmXM (ID: 90a2fd)Country code: lunachan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  219058

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>>219055
Well, a lot of people are only now starting to pay attention to politics and might not even know about things like the 2013 shutdown, Obama's drone strikes, surveillance, extrajudicial executions, etc. Give them time, eventually we'll have democrats in charge again and they'll see they're not the party of sunshine and rainbows either. Actually, progressives oftentimes tend to be more critical than Republicans of corruption and poor ethics by the Democratic Party.

Still, it's kind of whataboutism anyway. When criticized for their regime's human rights violations, Soviet propagandists responded "and you are lynching negroes". They weren't wrong, and that was terrible and something we needed to (and did) address, but that in no way absolved the USSR.

>Don't know what good that is for pointing out prototypes

Oh, I'm not talking about the prototypes, though it is kind of hilarious if they can just saw through the wall. I'm still going from the angle of the wall being pointless to begin with. Nearly every reason Trump cites as an urgent justification for the wall simply isn't backed up by the statistics collected by his own agencies.

It really almost seems to me like he's doing it for the sake of image more than anything else, honestly. Failing to deliver on the central promise of his campaign would piss off a lot of his base, whether or not that promise is grounded in solid reasoning. He could pretty easily just blame it on Democrat obstructionism though; I mean, he already is.
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Mikie(phone)!GlimDubEqI (ID: 18c618)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219059

>>219058
No, I don't trust democrats (progressives) with power either

They seem have an obsession with what everyone else is doing

If they'd fuck off trying to figure out what someone says or what firearm they own it would be better

The idea that dems are less tyrannical then republicans is outright laughable

They wanna dig in to people's paychecks and lives just as much

When progressives learn to mind their own business I will like them a bit more.

I'd rather go for a 3rd party

As for the wall. What do you suggest then? Just open up the border and let them flood an masse?
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Mint horse (ID: b99cb3)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219062

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>>218993
>be Trump
>be 2015
>promise to build wall along the US Mexican boarder using money taken from Mexico to keep Mexicans out of America

>be Trump

>be 2018-19
>months of government shutdowns and several billion US dollars later construction finally begins

>be Ocasio-Cortez

>be 2026
>after just two years in office your socialist style 70% tax on the rich policies turn America into the new Venezuela
>things become so bad that many Americans begin immigrating to wealthier countries like Mexico

>mfw Trump's wall was used to keep Americans out of Mexico using money taken from the American tax payer

Starshine!Laura/wmXM (ID: 90a2fd)Country code: lunachan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  219063

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>>219059
>No, I don't trust democrats (progressives) with power either
Not all democrats are progressives, and not all progressives are democrats. In the case of the latter, many who are, are because we're in a de facto two party system, similarly to why many self-identified libertarians or classical liberals vote republican.

I'm right with you on going for a third party. I'm sick of the "enemy of my enemy" political paradigm. But we need a large-scale cultural change for that to be feasible.

And honestly, I'm not so sure how I feel about the most prominent third parties either. The LP and Greens are surely preferable over the GOP and democrats in a lot of ways, but they've got their problems too. Still, I definitely want to see more Libertarians and Greens in Congress. Third-party candidates winning a presidential election seems like a pipe dream, but the first step in that direction is supporting them on a smaller scale.

>What do you suggest then? Just open up the border and let them flood an masse?

US immigration policy needs to be radically reformed, not into an "open borders" system, but into something functional. It's worth noting, though, that Trump's idea of "immigration reform" also entails cutting legal immigration in half.

In the case of border security, most of the data suggests our borders are more secure now than ever before. Border states and cities are actually among the safest in the nation thanks to existing security measures and law enforcement presence, and illegal border crossings (or at least apprehensions, which are the closest we have to a reliable metric) have been trending downwards over the last two decades.

Now, the latter statistic could indicate that we've gotten less effective at actually stopping illegal border crossings, and therefore those numbers are underreported, but that doesn't seem plausible given our current hardline immigration enforcement. If anything, those numbers should be increasing under stricter enforcement if there are more people trying to cross the border illegally, but they aren't.

Even the eternal boogeyman, sanctuary cities and counties, actually have lower crime rates on average compared to nonsanctuary. And the reason they exist in the first place is in response to unconstitutional ICE detainment policies.

Anonymous (ID: 0188fc)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219066

>>219059
>As for the wall. What do you suggest then
Personally I think reforming the ridiculous "asylum" loophole would be more effective. Migrants without a valid visa (or other authorization to enter the country) shouldn't get released from custody just because they make a bogus claim for asylum.

Also a simple chain link fence with barbed wire would be highly effective if combined with aerial support. And if using deadly force from above is too much for the bleeding-heart liberals, we can shoot them with tranquilizer darts or chloroform or something else to knock them out and the Border Patrol ground forces could pick them up and dump them back into Mexico.
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Anonymous (ID: 76eade)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219069

So why can't we just point guns at the heads of billionaires so they can't scurry away like roaches to do their business elsewhere when we try to tax them? Serious question.

(ID: 68545f)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219074

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>>219063
i have a huge issue with progressives mainly because i find it to be a defeatist and submissive ideology

when in doubt and when things get complicated

just have the government do it

i just dont like that...

so i vote towards who is more in line with how i l believe

which is why i would rather rand paul be president and not trump

>US immigration policy needs to be radically reformed, not into an "open borders" system

why not just reverse IIRIRA then?

>Even the eternal boogeyman, sanctuary cities and counties, actually have lower crime rates on average compared to nonsanctuary. And the reason they exist in the first place is in response to unconstitutional ICE detainment policies.

im not going to take a progressive think tank website as a fact

but on the other hand these places also dont have problems like you would find in innercities

tbh i kinda wish people who so for taking these people in would begin letting have a bed in their house

sick of the virtue signalling and expecting everyone to take care of them

>>219066
..that's an interesting take on it

Anonymous (ID: 0188fc)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219077

Trump should conscript the illegal Mexicans to build the wall. Then he can say that Mexico is paying for the wall (with the labor of their illegal immigrants).

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>>219074
>when in doubt and when things get complicated
>just have the government do it
>i just dont like that...
Well, when it comes to immigration, progressive are actually advocating the opposite -- "the government is fucking things up, dial it back". It's an issue they almost align with libertarians on, except libertarians go even farther and are basically as close to open borders as you can get.

>why not just reverse IIRIRA then?

That's a good step, but probably not the only step. Eligibility, ineligibility, the quota system and visa lottery, the definition of "aggravated felony", all that stuff's gotta be overhauled.

>im not going to take a progressive think tank website as a fact

That think tank sourced all of its crime data from the FBI, and the other article cited four different court cases which ruled that ICE's extended holding policy is unconstitutional.

>tbh i kinda wish people who so for taking these people in would begin letting have a bed in their house

How do you know there aren't at least some who do?

(ID: 68545f)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219103

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>>219102
>Well, when it comes to immigration, progressive are actually advocating the opposite -- "the government is fucking things up, dial it back". It's an issue they almost align with libertarians on, except libertarians go even farther and are basically as close to open borders as you can get.
tbh i dont side with them on this then

i would think having borders be completely open is insane

>That think tank sourced all of its crime data from the FBI

cool, you can keep them in your state then. i want them out of mine. there are people notice sanctuary cities as being a huge drain to their state. plus, we arent a daycare for illegal immigrants

>and the other article cited four different court cases which ruled that ICE's extended holding policy is unconstitutional

if it is, then why is it still being allowed to be a thing?

>How do you know there aren't at least some who do?

highly unlikely

it always seems to be loudest voices who dont help with anything

i.e celebrities

Anonymous (ID: 0188fc)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219104

>>219063
>And the reason they exist in the first place is in response to unconstitutional ICE detainment policies.
So if I'm reading that right, the problem is that illegal border crossing is only a civil offense, not a criminal offense. The obvious solution then is to make it a crime to illegally cross the border (with an appropriate *mens rea* element, of course).

EDIT: after further investigating, that AmericasVoice.org page is full of shit. Illegal entry is a crime, and the govt can issue a warrant for the illegal alien's arrest. What is unconstitutional is when the govt is lazy or sloppy and doesn't bother getting a warrant.
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Anonymous (ID: 0188fc)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219106

>>219103
>if it is, then why is it still being allowed to be a thing?
From the little that I read, it's only a problem if they accidentally a US person who they mistakenly believed was an illegal.

(ID: 68545f)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219107

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>>219104
>>219106
sooooo, these sites are being disingenuous as i suspected...

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>>219107

philly.com, nytimes.com, politifact.com, and americanprogress.org aren't all conspiring with americasvoice.org to fool you into not hating immigrants.

(ID: 68545f)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219126

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>>219120
lol never claimed it is

but to claim they arent left-leaning sites is some bullshit

that would be like me citing brietbart

i just said they're being disingenuous

oh because i prefer legal immigration means i hate immigrants now

solid and fantastic discourse
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>>219126

>>219104

> after further investigating, that AmericasVoice.org page is full of shit


>>219107

> these sites are being disingenuous as i suspected...


>AmericasVoice.org

>these sites
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a lost pony !piNKiEPie. (ID: 1ac61c)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219136

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>>219042
Am i a parasprite? Thats very kind of you to say

I think the idea of building it from Legos would be stellar, you could round up all the 1970s plain rectangular pieces that no one wants anymore and have underprivileged children carry them instead of building roads for concrete trucks.

You only need to use the new Lego Borderwall set for the top part and have its Lego (tm) barbed wire along the top with a Lego Batman posted every quarter mile or so.

Thats right, ponies. Feed me. Feed the parasprite...

(ID: 68545f)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219139

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>>219131
yeah, man its almost as if they're left leaning websites or something

its literally a pro immigration website talking about how bad trump is ffs

a lost pony !piNKiEPie. (ID: 1ac61c)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219144

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(ID: 68545f)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219146

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>>219144
>2018 A Year in Review: The Trump Administration’s Assault on Immigrants Continues
>right on the front page

totally no bias there or anything

what is even your point here?

Anonymous (ID: e77d36)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219156

>>219146
So what is your position on this topic anyway?

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>>219139

One website isn't five websites. You can claim nytimes.com is full of bullshit and I'd probably agree with you, but don't act like >>219104 supports your argument, because they only called bullshit on one of the sites, and that doesn't make all of the sites equally disingenuous. Sometimes researchers get fooled by a few bad apples, so you call them out as best as you can, but continue to take the other sources seriously, as best as you can.

(ID: 68545f)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219158

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>>219156
legal immigration

thats it

let them build the stupid wall so they open government again and people will get paid

and then pass laws that actually makes it easier for immigrants to get in through proper channels

>>219157
oh, i guess i should have worded it better

thats a my bad on my part then

Anonymous (ID: e77d36)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219159

>>219158
I don't see why anyone would be against that.

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>>219157
>that doesn't make all of the sites equally disingenuous.

No. That doesn't. The fact that they're are news outlets in general makes all of them equally disingenuous.

Let me put it this way: Are there ads on the site? If so, it's probably bullshit.

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>>219160
This is also an important thing, as news sites love to push anything which might drive in clicks, regardless of the outlet. A lot of the time this means massive exaggerations.

But, I do largely agree with Mikie on that left leaning media as a whole seemed to really like to push particular politics. But, it isn't like right wing sites don't do the same, it's just that as of late they didn't really need to as much. That's, and, of course, theres fewer of them.
That's why I generally speaking, I prefer sources that are direct. Videos especially are quite nice.
of course, one of the major problems with statistics is, you can find statistics just for about anything that helps prove your case, anyway.

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>>219167
I think there's fewer right wing sites for a few reasons, the most obvious being that Fox is bigger than several major left wing news conglomerates put together. Another being the right wing's dominance in talk radio, which is where more older voters get their information from, as opposed to checking a website every day.

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>>219103
>i would think having borders be completely open is insane
Well, their stance is basically "anyone should be able to come in as long as they're peaceful". So not straight up open borders, but pretty much as close as anyone who's not a straight up anarchist is willing to get. Probably should have clarified capital L Libertarians.

https://www.lp.org/issues/immigration/

>if it is, then why is it still being allowed to be a thing?

The same reason the DEA is still "allowed" to crack down on states with legal marijuana. It's a states' rights versus federal government issue.

>>219104
>So if I'm reading that right, the problem is that illegal border crossing is only a civil offense, not a criminal offense
>EDIT: after further investigating, that AmericasVoice.org page is full of shit. Illegal entry is a crime, and the govt can issue a warrant for the illegal alien's arrest.
Read the cases. Links for convenience.

https://miami.cbslocal.com/2017/03/03/judge-dade-holding-arrested-immigrants-for-ice-is-unconstitutional/
https://www.immigrantjustice.org/sites/default/files/content-type/press-release/documents/2016-11/JimenezMoreno-NDIL-ruling.pdf
http://media.oregonlive.com/clackamascounty_impact/other/Miranda%20Olivares%20MSJ%20decision.140411.pdf
https://www.aclupa.org/news/2014/03/05/third-circuit-appeals-court-rules-immigration-detainers-are

>>219126
>>219158
>>219159
>legal immigration
*cough*

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAISE_Act
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>>219178
well if it is deemed unconstitutional it should be null and void at the federal level

Anonymous (ID: 0188fc)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219189

>>219178
>Read the cases.
I see this:
>Neither Moreno nor Lopez was in fact a removable alien
Do any of these cases have an illegal alien who won?

Edit: also, my understanding is that "sanctuary cities" go further than not holding the alleged alien for an extra 48 hours. They dont notify ICE even if ICE could arrange to pickup the alleged alien at the alien's normally scheduled time of release.
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>>219181
The RAISE Act? I don't think that's unconstitutional. It's just, y'know, anti legal immigration.

ICE detainers? Those are unconstitutional, yeah. But when has that ever stopped anyone?

>>219189
Does it matter? The ICE detainers are the same thing whether or not the person is actually here illegally.

Also, that America's Voice page is not full of shit, because crossing the border illegally is not the only way to be an undocumented immigrant, and it's the only one that's a criminal offense. Which, y'know, due process and all that jazz.

https://www.aclu.org/files/assets/FINAL_criminalizing_undocumented_immigrants_issue_brief_PUBLIC_VERSION.pdf
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>>219192
yeah ICE detainees

>But when has that ever stopped anyone?

sadly, sadly you're fucking correct here. the 4th, 5th, 2nd and 10th amendments agree with you

for frozen water they have some power.

that was a sad attempt at being being funny

sorry

Anonymous (ID: 0188fc)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219198

>>219192
>crossing the border illegally is not the only way to be an undocumented immigrant
How else? If an alien overstays his visa, I wouldnt say that he is undocumented. But yeah, as to people who overstay their visa, I guess that state governments shouldnt hold them extra time for ICE given the current federal laws.

>>219192
>Does it matter?
It might. The 9th just said that it's unresolved whether illrgals have 2A rights, so I wouldn't be surprised if they lakced other rights that legally present people have.

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>>219008
So just wondering, what was actually said that got my "garbage" friend banned?

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>>219204
decided to act stupid and talk shit

he should know better by now

he knows the stipulations

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>>219207
Sounds pretty bad.
I didnt know talking shit wasn't allowed.

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>>219208
oh, you seemed to have forgotten our stipulation, huh?

you remember that agreement we had

yeah, he broke the agreement

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>>219209
Yeah i remember, you guys were suppose to leave each other alone, but you replied to Ikas posts all the time, so there was an impression there there was some laxity to it, or at least, it seemed like there was on your end.

Oh well.

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>>219211
i said not one word to him at all

he decided to bait and instigate as usual

only this time blatantly involving me
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>>219212
Well, iit maybe you didnt, but Ika did have to remind you of those same stipulations a couple of times since they were set.

But whatever, a deal is a deal, the garbage is banned, and lessons were learned.

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>>219213
i mean most of the time i tried to have regular conversation with him

because like ive told you many times i was actually interested in being friends with him

if he would stop doing this >>219147 then he can come back

the baiting and instigating that constantly happens has gotten beyond stale

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>>219197
Let's not forget extrajudicial executions. Thanks, Obama.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/14/13577464/obama-farewell-speech-torture-drones-nsa-surveillance-trump

You know what we need?

Immigration and Customs Enforcement Constitutional Reformation and Erosion Act/Mandate.

>>219198
>If an alien overstays his visa, I wouldnt say that he is undocumented.
Well, he is, in fact, undocumented. And a very significant portion of undocumented immigrants are visa overstays.

https://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2018/aug/24/kevin-mccarthy/mostly-true-visa-overstays-account-half-all-people/

>It might. The 9th just said that it's unresolved whether illrgals have 2A rights, so I wouldn't be surprised if they lakced other rights that legally present people have.

But if you can't prove that someone is undocumented, it'd be illegal to detain them regardless of whether Constitutional rights would apply to them if they weren't. Why should suspicion that someone is an undocumented immigrant, especially if they actually entered legally and their presence is merely a civil offense, be the one exception to due process and presumption of innocence?

Furthermore, when we consider that (citing the ACLU document I linked earlier) immigrants commit crimes at comparable or lower rates than other US citizens, why exactly are they the top priority for our current presidency? Because "opiod epidemic"? Screen legal points of entry better (because that's where most heroin gets in), and more importantly, follow Portugal's lead and finally end this pants on head retarded war on drugs. Treat addiction as a public health issue. Yet another thing I sound like both a progressive and a libertarian on.

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>>219215
you already know im on board with it

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>>219214
I mean, is the making shitposts the reason now?

I'm not looking for excuses, i was just wondering what he said is all.

I cant argue with you, the deal was he couldn't say anything against you or he would be banned. If he did that, so be it.

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>>219218
no, it isnt

the deal was he was not to "commenting when you bring up politics, if you will leave his topics alone."

he violated that agreement

buuuuuuuut, in a way so did i, didnt i?

would you find it more reasonable if i cut his ban from permaban to something more... reasonable?

go ahead, gimme a number

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>>219218
>>219223
What was the post?

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>>219223
>the deal was he was not to "commenting when you bring up politics, if you will leave his topics alone."
Actually it was that you dont talk to each other, period. I know, I'm the one that brokered it.

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>>219225
it's been deleted

and i dont fully remember

>>219227
okay, but gimme a number because i also violated it agreement

dude im trying to help him here... HINT HINT

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>>219225
If what I was told was true, it was laughably tame, esp by this boards standards haha.

But I cant know for sure.

>>219229
I cant say. Its your deal, and your site, do what you think it right.

Not to mention, every time I get between you two, my dad dies.

Anonymous (ID: 0188fc)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219247

>>219215
>Well, he is, in fact, undocumented.
I'd say that there is a difference between having expired documents versus not having documents at all.

>>219215
>immigrants commit crimes at comparable or lower rates than other US citizens
Well that includes *legal* immigrants. I expect that illegals don't volunteer their immigration status, and also don't report crimes in their neighborhood as much as lawfully present persons.

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>>219246
all right

since i violated the deal i will lift his ban

fair is fair

*slams gavel*

case dismissed

Anonymous (ID: 0188fc)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219253

>>219246
Ika has been an obnoxious shitposter for a long time. I'm glad he's gone.

Edit: oh, I guess he's not gone >>219249
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>>219253
When did he leave? I've not seen him in a few days but I just assumed he was taking a short break.

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>>219253
well, thats another thing i am going to add

the whole baiting and trying to antagonize

that stops now

it wont result in a permaban but he is going to get bans for it

this type of behavior has gone on long enough and we have been far to lenient on him about it

so those are the new stipulations he needs to understand

i have been trying to be nice and look the otherway

but im done with that

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>>219258
>it wont result in a permaban

Aim to my heart.

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>>219258
I assume that rule will be enforced evenly across the board.

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He'll fatally sperg again, for the last time.
Soon.
Heavy sighs of relief will rise that day.

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>>219253
ika isn't even that bad though...

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>>219283
it sure wont! that's his stipulations!

he is biggest offender to this issue

every else seems to know when to stop

everyone but him

its been an ongoing issue and it stops now

all you gotta do is not be a dick which is already a rule that pretty much applies to everyone anyway
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>>219229
>it's been deleted
Along with all his other posts on the entire site. Now how am I supposed to know what he was saying to Mk17 in the vidya thread? smdh

>>219246
Spill the beans, I'm too curious.

>>219247
>I'd say that there is a difference between having expired documents versus not having documents at all.
For ICE's purposes, they're both "illegal" immigrants.

>I expect that illegals don't volunteer their immigration status, and also don't report crimes in their neighborhood as much as lawfully present persons.

Well, in both cases, they have a very good reason for that, no?

https://www.cato.org/blog/murder-mollie-tibbetts-illegal-immigrant-crime-facts

Anonymous (ID: 0188fc)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219308

>>219305
>Along with all his other posts on the entire site.
Unfortunately it is too easy to accidentally the "delete all posts by this IP" button.

>>219305
>For ICE's purposes, they're both "illegal" immigrants.
That's part of why I prefer the term "illegal immigrant" to "undocumented immigrant", especially since many of them are visa-overstayers who *do* have (expired) documents.

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>>219305
Bruce Almighty - That's the way the cookie crumbles

>Spill the beans, I'm too curious.

nah, drop it. he can message you it if he wants
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>>219305
>Well, in both cases, they have a very good reason for that, no?
Well yeah they do, but it still throws into question the reliability of statistics about it.

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>>219288
>it sure wont! that's his stipulations!

Right, i suppose it has to be that way or else

Saying people from a country huff gasoline or calling people garbage would have to be treated the same as Ika saying "Says the guy who cant even spell in his own native language".

And that would cause some issues, i suspect.

Btw aboriginal people are from Australia the Māori are from New Zealand.

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>>219314
what do want me to do? ban myself?

he is constantly starting shit with people and baiting

yeah, those are going to to be the stipulations

>Btw aboriginal people are from Australia the Māori are from New Zealand.

well yeah, her flag isnt new zealand lol

also

>calling people garbage

you're right i like FGI's version much better

"a predictable industrial shit-producing conveyor belt."
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Anonymous (ID: 0188fc)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219322

>>219288
>its been an ongoing issue and it stops now
Fucking finally. Ika has been shitting up the place for far to long.

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>>219322
i see what goes on

dont worry

there are those who believe it does not exist

but we know it does
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>>219319
>well yeah, her flag isnt new zealand lol
Ah your right, hard to see the little star under the flag.

You for sure insulted the correct native population.

>you're right i like FGI's version much better

>"a predictable industrial shit-producing conveyor belt."

Fair enough.

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>>219308
Yeah, the [D++] is right next to the [B]. Mikie's fat-fingered the [D++] against himself a few times. It was pretty bad but also kind of funny, I must admit.

>That's part of why I prefer the term "illegal immigrant" to "undocumented immigrant", especially since many of them are visa-overstayers who *do* have (expired) documents.

The problem with the term "illegal immigrant" is that it carries connotations of a crime being committed. But overstaying a visa isn't even a misdemeanor.

>>219313
Well, if people commit a serious crime and get arrested, you'd think they would be discovered to be illegal/undocumented immigrants, no?

http://oxfordre.com/criminology/view/10.1093/acrefore/9780190264079.001.0001/acrefore-9780190264079-e-93

>>219319
>what do want me to do? ban myself?
Ika does have a history of being more provocative than most, and as the admin banning yourself or being banned is symbolic at best, but it is true that you should refrain from things like uh...whatever that incident was that Mk17 is referring to.

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>>219325
look man, all he has to do is stop baiting and instigating

its not like its going to be intimidate huge bans

just some time outs

i think thats fair to the board as whole who has had it up to here with his behavior
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>>219326
i agree with that

i shouldnt act that way

but my behavior isnt an on going problem and i realize when i have actually messed up

and i take accountability for my actions

i dont tuck my tail and scurry away after being called out for my shit
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Anonymous (ID: c1010a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219331

>>219325
You seemed like a decent guy otherwise. Why also defend this chronically instigating reanimated abortion whose name will no longer be spoken? He was an observable detriment to the board if not the site.
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>>219325
sent ;)

>>219330
Well, without actually having seen the post that got him banned, I can't really comment on it. But I will say I haven't noticed as much Ika trolling lately. I also don't know how tight of a leash he was on though, and for obvious reasons I can't really find evidence supporting or refuting my prior statement.

>>219331
Perhaps because he's his friend, and he wants to make sure the actions against him were fair?

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>>219327
I agree, and i agree he goes over board at times and i agree he shouldnt.

I just see a double standard. See my responce to anon.

>>219331
>seemed
Ha.

Why? Because he is one of my best friends, he has helped me out through some really hard times in my life, litterally one of the nicest people I know, and i think its shitty that people get to call him a "shit skin" and a "reanimated abortion" and a "wet back" then get all butt hurt when he hits back, crying that he is a big meanie.
Its normally an anon.
And 9/10 time all he says is something calling out the right side of politics to earn it.

And its a testimate to autism that people dont see that he is normally just busting balls.

>>219330
And I think thats good, it is true, and i respect you for it.
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>>219331
ika is his friend so its far for him to question what happend

you'd do the same for your friend, wouldnt you?

>>219335
it wasnt really anything bad he said to me, but it was certainty trying to instigate me

which we had agreement that he didnt do that shit anymore and i lift his ban

which we had that agreement months ago

but its whatever now, because i lifted his ban so he is free to post right now

but i think it's fair for the sake of this board that ika should be held on these new stipulations

just yesterday he was calling a group of people retards for supporting the wall

>>219337
>I just see a double standard. See my responce to anon.
the difference being he is the one throwing punches when everyone else is trying to have a normal discussion

its like those kids in class who act retarded and obnoxious and the entire class tells those kids to shut the up, you're annoying

then those kids respond with "hurr hurr ur so mad tho xDDDD"
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Anonymous (ID: 96bff2)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219344

>>219340
>ika should be held on these new stipulations

Yes everyone should be held to the new stipulations. :)

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>>219344
everyone else knows better to not make their daily routine here to instigate and bait

so nah

if they choose act the way he does then the same rule will apply

which are existing rules anyway

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>>219337
>and i think its shitty that people get to call him a "shit skin" and a "reanimated abortion" and a "wet back" then get all butt hurt when he hits back, crying that he is a big meanie.
This I definitely agree with. Having gone too far in the past, or even going too far in the present, doesn't make this kind of stuff okay.

>>219340
>>219344
I mean, in actuality these stipulations shouldn't really be anything new for him or for anyone else. /ef/ hasn't been an "anything goes" board in ages.

>You are free to speak your mind, but know that personal attacks and attempts to goad other users into them are not allowed. You are free to challenge each other, but basic civility should be maintained. The staff does not care "who started it" and all those involved will be held accountable, so if a user is continually trying to goad you, please report them so staff can handle the situation.


I personally have given him a warning at least once in the past when he was going overboard unprovoked, and he did stop. But when you guys try to fight fire with fire that just feeds into it.

(ID: 68545f)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219349

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>>219348
two wrongs dont make a right

Mk17 (p-hone) (ID: 769162)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219350

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>>219340
>which we had agreement that he didnt do that shit anymore and i lift his ban
Yup, and i havent argued that you were in the wrong there ether, just to be clear.

>but i think it's fair for the sake of this board that ika should be held on these new stipulations

I think anyone who is acting that way be held to the stipulation including him.

And to be fair, you have warned and banned people who go overboard with insulting him too.

>the difference being he is the one throwing punches when everyone else is trying to have a normal discussion

I think the reason im friends with him and others arnt is that when he calls me a racist gun loving hick that wants to suck donald trumps dick, i take it as a joke, laugh, and just agree.
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Starshine!Laura/wmXM (ID: 90a2fd)Country code: lunachan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  219352

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>>219349
Exactly my point.

>>219350
>when he calls me a racist gun loving hick that wants to suck donald trumps dick
That's stupid, you're only two of those things.

(ID: 68545f)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219353

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>>219350
>I think anyone who is acting that way be held to the stipulation including him.
>And to be fair, you have warned and banned people who go overboard with insulting him too.
sooooo, basically just enforce the current rules

fair enough, we can do that

because i have warned and banned people for going overboard with insulting ika, you're right

>I think the reason im friends with him and others arnt is that when he calls me a racist gun loving hick that wants to suck donald trumps dick, i laugh, and just agree.

but see, not everyone is friends with him

not everyone knows his intent nor can people convey peoples intent through text

like if someone were to say something like that to someone in person

i doubt they would take kindly to that

even more if they dont know you very well
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Mk17 (p-hone) (ID: 769162)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219354

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>>219352
With his money, i bet he's had it surgically flavored.

Mk17 (p-hone) (ID: 769162)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219358

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>>219353
>not everyone knows his intent nor can people convey peoples intent through text
I get that, which is why life on the internet is wayyyy easier if you just assume its a joke until proven otherwise imo. But i agree if someone is seeing it as an insult and the other person doesnt stop, thats being a dick.

Like with noomin and ika, ika was being a dick, but he stopped when asked.

And yeah, I cant speak for Ika, or what his intent actually is, but my theory, esp reguarding you and he, is that your both quick to insults when you feel insulted, and you've both insulted each other enough that its pretty entrenched at this point.
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Starshine!Laura/wmXM (ID: 90a2fd)Country code: lunachan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  219359

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>>219354
What do you suppose it tastes like?

(ID: 68545f)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219360

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>>219358
well at this point i am simply going to ignore him entirely

unless i have to take moderator action

which at that point

i have to do that

for both him and the users

Mk17 (p-hone) (ID: 769162)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219361

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>>219359
Do you even have to ask?

Its obv orange flavored.

Starshine!Laura/wmXM (ID: 90a2fd)Country code: lunachan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  219362

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>>219361
I would've gone with Cheetos. But I suppose sweet flavors make more sense if you're looking for mass appeal.

Shame I'm not really a fan of citrus fruits.

Mk17 (p-hone) (ID: 769162)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219363

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>>219360
Your both actually really similar, which is partly why you are both my friend.

...which is why my life is so hard haha.

Mk17 (p-hone) (ID: 769162)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219364

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>>219362
I think if i sucked a dick that tasted like cheetoes i would yak instantly.

Kind of like if you blindfold someone and give them a glass of "milk" but really its orange juice.

(ID: 68545f)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219365

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>>219363
yeah, i mean at first we used to be friends and just chat about things

and just post as normal

but both us had to deal with you know who and his group

i guess things changed once they left

i guess thats just how shit has to be

sadly

i can tell one thing, i have no interest in bickering

Starshine!Laura/wmXM (ID: 90a2fd)Country code: lunachan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  219366

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>>219364
I think I'm probably just too stuck on the name "Cheeto Benito".

Mk17 (p-hone) (ID: 769162)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219367

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>>219366
Hahaha, it makes sense, and i honestly wish i had thought of it first, but now im just stuck on the thought of going in for a BJ and tasting cheetoes and what a mind fuck that would be haha.

And what my reaction would be.

I think i would go straight to the hospital crying.
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Mk17 (ID: 4eb377)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219374

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>>219365
Idk, i wasn't there.

I've never known you 2 as being civil with each other, so the idea of it blows my mind haha.

Honestly, the first thread i ever saw you guys in when i came back was you saying "trolling is an art" and ika saying "no it isnt" (to troll you) and the argument that fallowed was fucking hilarious from an outsiders perspective haha.

40 posts later you guys were arguing whether or not land mines should be legal, and you called him an "insufferable beaner retard" which ill always remember because it has kind have become a meme at my work haha.

(ID: 68545f)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219379

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>>219374
..........

yeah i literally dont even remember that

Mk17 (ID: 4eb377)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219391

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>>219379
I only remember it because it was one of the first threads i read on here since returning, and i didnt really know anyone.

So the heated convo, paired with the pics of ponys and stuff, was really entertaining haha.

J (ID: 76eade)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219394

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Online communities are not open invitations for you to be a manipulative sadist who translucently hides his bitter searing rage behind a facade of provocation. I feel this is an easy concept for any half-socialized adult to understand.

(ID: 68545f)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219395

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>>219391
guess im going to have to take your word for it

Starshine!Laura/wmXM (ID: 90a2fd)Country code: lunachan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  219396

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>>219367
To be fair, would it be any better if you tasted oranges? Maybe it's just my anti-citrus bigotry talking, but I don't fancy orange dick. I'd rather suck peach or banana dick myself. But good old-fashioned human dick is pretty tasty too if I'm quite honest.

>>219374
>"insufferable beaner retard"
lmao
I don't remember this "trolling is an art" thread or discussion of landmines but I definitely remember that exact phrase

(ID: 68545f)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219397

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>>219396
you'd think id remember saying that

even when drunk i can recall it normally

i am not ashamed to say things like that so its not like i am denying it

must've been when i was spending more time on /pol/

a lost pony !piNKiEPie. (ID: 1ac61c)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219400

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>>219146
Trying to copy your glimmy expression with closest one for ponk i cud find? I don't have any point(s).

>>219215
"ASSCREAM"? i dont get it

Wow so much going on in my dumb little thred here gonna hafta catch up laters

Anypony know why ika never responds to me? Was that something someone told him or his call i wonder

Anonymous (ID: 0188fc)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219401

>>219396
I remember the discussion of landmines. Noonim was arguing that people should be allowed to put active landmines in their property under certain circumstances.

(ID: 68545f)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219402

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>>219400
>Anypony know why ika never responds to me? Was that something someone told him or his call i wonder
ika was banned

he isnt anymore

he's likely just busy atm

or asleep

a lost pony !piNKiEPie. (ID: 1ac61c)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219403

>>219402
No i mean long before that.

(ID: 68545f)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219404

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>>219403
he actually hasnt been active in general for most part

neither have you, really

could be why

a lost pony !piNKiEPie. (ID: 1ac61c)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219406

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>>219404
I took a break for a week or two, and didn't lurk. Considering ika would barely talk to me before that, i doubt any lack of activity on his part has anything to do with me.

He's an asshole but a very likeable asshole, not like me when i sperging out. I think i offended him or something.

Anyway im sure he'll be back.

Admiral (ID: 5221ea)Country code: cascadia.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  219420

I think more physical barriers near high traffic areas could be prudent spending but it's so transparent that this has nothing to do with the wall. If Trump wanted a wall and ever had a hope of getting it he should have gotten it when he controlled every branch of government. The republican congress doesn't want a wall either. He's trying to manufacture a 'state of emergency' when none exists and illegal immigration has been reversing steadily for a decade. Some people ask why a wall, everyone should ask why now.

Mk17 (p-hone) (ID: 769162)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219425

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>>219396
Idk that orange would be good but it would be better than cheetoes haha.
I think we can all agree naner dick would be most appealing.
see what I did there?

Human dick just tastes like nothing imo. Like, tastes like any other part.

Also, that might have been 2 threads around the same time now that i think about it. It was in like april haha.

>>219402
I doubt he will be back. Or at least rearly.

Sounds like he decided to move from the state that banned his guns.

!pinkie78Os (ID: 9b024a)Country code: ca, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219446

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OK, after alternating between reading through this mess and skimming it, I can't stands no more.

>>219404

You're gonna have to explain to me why you're for this wall being built but against gun control.

Because to me, both of those are huge wastes of time that don't actually solve any of the problems they're supposedly made to do.

J (ID: c1010a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219449

>>219446
One (pro-gun) is about slightly counterbalancing the power of a state by weakening its monopoly on violence, while the other (the wall) is about giving a symbolic "fuck you" to people from a nearby power perceived to be abusive towards people in this country.
Both are probably connected to skepticism/distrust of another entity or perceived entity, skepticism I'd argue is justified.

Mikie(phone)!GlimDubEqI (ID: 18c618)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219494

>>219425
Wherever lol

>>219446
Because comparing the two is apples and oranges for one.

And for two one is a physical barrier that can be used with technology. It beats having a ton of sheet metal on the border

Plus the 2nd amendment is a right

Immigration isn't

Also sorry for the late edit but I'm not even really for the wall. I just want them to move on from this.
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Mk17 (p-hone) (ID: 75a41c)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219553

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What if the wall is to trap US IN...

-Z- (ID: 84f8e7)Country code: mlpchan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  219554

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>>219553
Then get ready for the longest Battle Royal of your life.

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>>219553
Oh no. Billions of Americans trapped on one of the largest landmasses in the world, left to do the exact same thing they have been doing their entire lives.

The end is truly here.

Mk17 (p-hone) (ID: 75a41c)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219568

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>>219554
The gypsies were right!

>>219557
Yeah but what if it all changes!

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>>219568
I'm ready for death as I get yeet'd by a 12 year-old who'd been training for this his entire short life.

J (ID: c1010a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219575

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Yupp.

Totally fair.

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>>219575
To be fair you could change the titles of that chart to "places people are" and "places people want to be" and it would still be accurate.
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(ID: 84b726)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219607

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Mk17 (p-hone) (ID: 75a41c)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219627

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>>219575
Why dont we just make mexico a US territory.

They can give up their sovereignty and then come and go as they please.

Mk17 (p-hone) (ID: 75a41c)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219628

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>>219570
The death of a warrior.

Anonymous (ID: 024fb6)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219649

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How bad are things at the border? Bad enough for former President Obama's head of the border patrol to tell the press he agrees with President Trump! Who knew?

https://insider.foxnews.com/2019/01/12/obama-era-border-chief-mark-morgan-hits-back-absurd-border-wall-arguments

-Z- (ID: 84f8e7)Country code: mlpchan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  219651

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>>219628
Ahh yes, on my tombstone it will read

Sniped like a punk bitch by Matt, online alias XxTeA_bAg_4_TrUmP42069xX

J (ID: ed1146)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219654

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>>219627
Because you know we'll never get around to seriously exterminating the gang trash running the place, given how our own ghettos have been handled.

!pinkie78Os (ID: 9b024a)Country code: ca, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219657

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>>219449

The fact that it's a symbolic gesture just kinda makes it seem even more pointless.

Like, the reason illegal immigration is such a thing is more due to deeper-seated issues, such as how the immigration system works and how companies will gladly hire immigrants - legal or otherwise - because they don't have to pay them as much since they either don't know their rights or don't have them.

But solving those problems would take far more time and effort and rustle the jimmies of people with more power than the average layman, plus it wouldn't look as impressive as just slapping a big thing that'll be circumvented within the first month of its existence.

>>219494

I only draw the connection because both gun control and the wall are bandaid solutions to more complicated issues, and both are trumpeted as the cure-all for what people think is the biggest problem in America.

So it just confused me why one was obviously a problem in your eyes, while the other is more "fuck it, waste the money, let's just get this over with".

'Cause it is a waste of time and money in either case, not that that's stopped anyone in any government from doing it.

(ID: 84b726)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219658

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>>219657
>and both are trumpeted as the cure-all for what people think is the biggest problem in America.
tbh i havent ever heard of anyone claim that the wall is one stop fix it all solution

many of said more would need to be done

for example border patrol could use to their advantage by adding surveillance systems, sensors, etc.

the wall is just another step towards security at the border

gun control simply doesnt work because it continues to be ineffective every time

at least with a border wall you cant quite claim that since we never had one before

i mean shit, if government is going to waste money

at least waste it at home and not overseas
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vynn (ID: 963444)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219701

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What a waste of good steel tbh

Anonymous (ID: 03700d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219705

>>219701
More people want to immigrate to America than we can accommodate. Gassing the bankers won't change that.

Pez (ID: 30d2d6)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219706

>>219705
Considering that we export an insane amount of food and don't tax the highest brackets at nearly the same rate we used to, and also bribe corporations with tax breaks to keep working in America instead of penalizing them for trying to milk the country without contributing...
We can handle a lot more.

Anonymous (ID: 03700d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219710

>>219706
There are already too many people in America. And way too many people in India and China. We really need to decrease the population count before global warming and other environmental disasters do it for us.

Mk17 (ID: 4eb377)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219711

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>>219651
More like EPIC-taph!

>>219654
So they would be subject to our laws like welfare and minimum wage, and everyone will be safe and happy, forever. They wont even need to move here!

>>219701
By the logic of your pic, if you keep your money in a bank, you are part of the problem.

Pez (ID: 30d2d6)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219716

>>219710
With climate change making things worse than they already are in South America and Africa we're going to need to figure something out, because the migrants are only going to flood in more. Europe is going to get hit the hardest since smaller countries are taking in mass floods of people that they don't have the infrastructure to handle in any part of their land.

Anonymous (ID: 03700d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219721

>>219716
The wall is part of that solution, along with Border Patrol ground forces. And more naval patrols to deny entry to illegals attempt to enter by sea.

J (ID: c1010a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219722

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>>219711
What's a law to an anarchist?
What's a cop in a plastic suit to a mob of urchins hurling bricks?

We've had whole lawless dead zones where you can get brutalized to death just casually walking through unless you got a friend protecting you because they don't like the way you look. Do they give a shit that there are laws against that? Fuck no.

vynn (ID: 963444)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219728

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>>219705
So once we have a wall, immigration is solved!


>>219711
Substitute for anyone that holds enormous wealth.

J (ID: c1010a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219730

>>219728
>if it doesn't kill-shot the problem, its effects are meaningless! let's not even bother with the small steps!

🐈🐈Dodger🐈🐈!FGiFL0Ecls (ID: 9331a2)Country code: windows9x.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  219731

>>219721
what about the air?!?!

vynn (ID: 963444)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219751

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>>219730
Yeah, a wall along the entirety of the border is such a small step. You got me.

J (ID: c1010a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219764

>>219751
You're right, beating back the mongols from the north won't stop the japanese navy from the east, it must be a waste of money. Pack up guys, this project ain't happening.

Pez (ID: 30d2d6)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219774

>>219764
The ones that cause more problems have been using tunnels since before the secure fence act. Hell, the fuckers have used artillery to launch drugs over. Making immigration actually work would at least have the refugees paying taxes instead of hiding out.

Anonymous (ID: 03700d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219776

>>219774
>Hell, the fuckers have used artillery to launch drugs over.
Then maybe our Border Patrol should also be equipped with artillery to fire back.

J (ID: c1010a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219777

>>219774
That's only an argument for being harder on the fuckers. Carpet-bomb that turd dangling from the bottom of our country and salt what little farmland they have. You don't spread your asscheeks for the huns because they pillaged you, that's grounds for war against somebody.

vynn (ID: 963444)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219779

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>>219764
Are we actually stopping "Mongols" with this, or is it just a thing that makes us feel better without actually doing much?

J (ID: c1010a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219782

>>219779
Can't despoil our lands or lower our wages if they're dead. It's almost always either us or them, this is lesson zero of politics.
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Pez (ID: 30d2d6)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219783

>>219777
War against the Mexican government that's currently trying to rebuild the country and hold off the cartels that are actually doing this? That's how you get more refugees. Have you put any thought into your response or are you just shitting out knee-jerk reactions? Because those are kinda fucking useless unless you're just trying to pat yourself on the back for whatever you think you're doing.

And the artillery isn't them shelling us, it's launching shit over the border so we don't see it and they can just pick it up. Turns out even if the shot is loud it's pretty hard to detect something shot from empty desert to empty desert.

J (ID: c1010a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219785

>>219783
You don't "get more refugees" when you mow through every fucker who runs north to the boundary with a machine gun.
You get less.

(ID: c4d8c4)Country code: amsterdam.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  219791

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I find these discussions funny.

Liberals:
"You can't just crack down on Mexicans, you'll end up hurting innocent people that didn't do anything wrong."

"Sexual harassment in the work place? Let those fuckers fry, even if some innocent people get hurt it's worth it."

Conservatives:
"You can't just allow women to accuse people of sexual harassment. You'll end up hurting innocent people that didn't do anything wrong."

"Illegal immigration? Let those fuckers fry, even if some innocent people get hurt it's worth it."


I laugh every time.

Pez (ID: 30d2d6)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219792

>>219785
And when we get hit with massive sanctions for humanitarian issues...
This is all stuff that's easy to say but relies on pure ignorance on everything that the world works on. You can keep pulling answers out of your ass but no matter how much it raises your blood-chub it doesn't actually have any merit in reality. That's the main reason these things aren't solved already, acting like an angsty teenager doesn't solve problems. At best it makes stupid friends laugh, make hooting noises, and tell you that's a good idea.

J (ID: c1010a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219793

>>219792
Your argument is just that we need to come up with a bigger, more comprehensive plan to cooperate with the people who are despoiling our lands to solve this issue or just not address it at all, either one of which leaves us spending more than we began spending, either through the lowering wages and rising populations we can't support or investing more effort into the shithole beneath us to keep people from wanting to leave. If we're gonna do anything that costs us, it might as well be the solution that's once and final, mainly fighting the easiest war a nation possibly can, one with a neighbor, and mercy-killing every urchin that's causing us so much shit and will inevitably try to kill us when we exceed the carrying capacity and shit truly hits the fan.

I have no reservations for saving these people who mostly hate us when this same government that would do so doesn't care enough about me to ensure that we don't come into contact. They invaded us like a warring tribe would, we respond in kind with a killing strike while they're still relatively weak.


And it's not like anyone actually sanctioned us all those years we were committing war crimes in the ME probably at Israel's behest, why the fuck not do it for our own interests?
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vynn (ID: 963444)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219794

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>>219782
I like how you didn't even answer my question while also saying some fucked up shit.
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Pez (ID: 30d2d6)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219795

>>219793
Wages are starting to go up, multiple states and a lot of bigger cities already drove their minimum wage up. Hell, all of Colorado is at 11.10/hr now and moving to 12/hr next year. A lot of places are setting things at 15. I wouldn't worry about lower wages there if we can actually support this. Increased taxes on the highest brackets, which historically was a part of the country's greatest periods of growth, would help fund a lot of this.

Your idea of war with Mexico isn't something the world justifies anymore, it would have huge impacts on international trade and possible foreign involvement because attacking a country for having refugees fleeing it isn't accepted. It would ruin our standing with the world and as much as it sounds cool to act like a lone wolf the country is only functioning now because we've managed to hold things together with international relations despite being treated as a clown.

There isn't an easy or quick solution, that's the problem. Anything we do that has a real affect is going to take time and effort. Hell, Mexico is largely a shitshow because of US involvement repeatedly fucking them over. We fucking caused a lot of this by destabilizing pretty much everything from Mexico down.

Anonymous (ID: 03700d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219796

>>219792
>And when we get hit with massive sanctions for humanitarian issues...
LOL, nobody is going to try to put sanctions on the world's only remaining superpower for something like that. China isn't. Japan isn't. South Korea isn't. And if some European country tries, they'll just end up hurting themselves, and maybe some liberal elites will get mad that they can't get stinky French cheese or something, which is a win anyway.

J (ID: c1010a)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219797

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>>219795
Lmao. We're a clown country because our snake politicians spend our precious lifeblood paying for garrisons to keep the Europeans from killing each other and pay for city-states in the desert that should be fending for themselves. Withdraw from everywhere except Japan, our garrison against China, and we'll have an easy war won, another drain on our resources gone, and plenty of war spoils to profit from. Go ahead, let NATO that we majorly fund send their big scurry army to our unconquerable continent. What, is Canada going to stop us? Because that would pose as great a risk to themselves as to us, them being next to us and all. And it's not like foreign vultures like the Chinese don't persist to abuse us whether or not we violate pissy human rights laws they don't care about anyway, that are enforced by international unions WE fund.


Fuck this cunt world that demands our service but doesn't give a shit about us. It's high time we cash in. Burrito is on the menu today.
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Anonymous (ID: 30d2d6)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219798

>>219796
So do you have any clue about what we actually trade with a lot of our partners? Also how the American public would respond to bombing refugees. Building a wall is one thing, killing people running from the cartels wouldn't have the support of many people. Hell, are you still in high school because this is just... not something I hear from adults. I grew up in "they took our jobs" land and even the reddest necked bastards I knew would just pat you on the head and say "alright now, calm down son"

Anonymous (ID: 03700d)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219800

>>219798
>So do you have any clue about what we actually trade with a lot of our partners?
Well, for one, we trade billions of dollars of weapons to Saudi Arabia so that they can bomb Yemeni civilians...

Mk17 (p-hone) (ID: 7b8fe6)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  219874

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>>219791
Sounds about right.

a lost pony !piNKiEPie. (ID: 1ac61c)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  220065

>>219791
It does have a certain symmetry.


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