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Starshine!Laura/wmXM (ID: 2c233d)Country code: lunachan.png, country type: customflag, valid:   218309

👏 MEME 👏 REVIEW

Don't you ever wish we could go back to the 50's, when men were men and women were women and this tranny shit didn't exist? The whole thing is just a trendy, manufactured phenomenon shoved down our throats by SJWs in the last decade.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Lobdell
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Cashier
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennie_June_(autobiographer)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cercle_Hermaphroditos
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_L._Hart
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Tipton
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lili_Elbe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Jorgensen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Prince
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendy_Carlos

Uh oh, someone did an oopsie! Culturally and historically ignorant plebs blown the fuck out yet again, I'm afraid. Wave the pink, white, and blue with conviction.

👏 NEXT 👏 MEME

Starshine!Laura/wmXM (ID: 2c233d)Country code: lunachan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  218310

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Sorry for making two snarky threads in a row. I'll tone down the snark for my next thread, I promise.

Although in my defense, transphobes and especially /pol/ totally have it coming.
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Anonymous (ID: 0930d0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218312

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>>218309
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Lobdell
>They spent years roaming the woods together with their pet bear
>their pet bear
wot in tarnation???

Starshine!Laura/wmXM (ID: 2c233d)Country code: lunachan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  218313

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>>218312
Dude was hard as shit.

(ID: 4bec66)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218318

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i never been to 1950's so there is no way i could go back

🐈🐈Dodger🐈🐈!FGiFL0Ecls (ID: ec0699)Country code: windows9x.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  218319

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I wonder if tranners in the 50s were obsessed with Civil War aesthetics the way modern tranners are obsessed with 50s aesthetics.

Starshine!Laura/wmXM (ID: 2c233d)Country code: lunachan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  218320

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>>218318
Same

>>218319
I-I'm not obsessed with 50's aesthetics, I just want to be a perfect 50's housewife, except still maybe have a job and be respected as an independent human being and probably but not absolutely be married to a woman, and uhh...

Okay, I'm slightly obsessed with 50's aesthetics. But I'm even more obsessed with Victorian aesthetics and modern Japanese reimaginings thereof.
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(ID: 4bec66)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218321

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>>218320
only nice thing about the 50's is one could buy a full auto machine gun with no questions asked sent straight to your door

pay your shity $200 tax stamp and be done with it

☲ Prince Ember Storm!MSNowBALLk (ID: 737456)Country code: canadian-red-ensign.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  218322

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Only good thing about the fifties is some of the cars and the Avro Canada CF-105 Arrow, may it rest in peace.

Starshine!Laura/wmXM (ID: 2c233d)Country code: lunachan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  218323

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>>218321
>>218322
Those things are good too, but you guys are forgetting cheesy sci-fi futurism and rockabilly fashion.

🐈🐈Dodger🐈🐈!FGiFL0Ecls (ID: ec0699)Country code: windows9x.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  218328

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>>218320
If I was a girl, I'd want to be a 90s tomboy with
>short black hair
>dark makeup
>white dress
>leather jacket
>acoustic guitar
I'd just copy all my fashion from old Playboy ads tbh

Mythix!wG1CV58ydQ (ID: 9c6379)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218365

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>>218323
I'm not a fan of 50's aesthetics but I love 80's aesthetics.

Vio Lette!qXZZ8NDkR. (ID: cc0e1b)Country code: au, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218367

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Anonymous (ID: 7fa3ee)Country code: unitedponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  218374

>>218309
No thanks. I don't feel like dieing in the jungle.

mint horse (ID: fdb9a9)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218377

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Despite me obviously being transphobic, I couldn’t agree more with this.

I can’t stand “anti-SJW’s” claiming that transgenderism is nothing more than a recent fad or something *insert Alex Jones voice here* “cooked up by the Frankfurt school to turn boys into girls and girls into boys.” they’re no better than 90s conservatives claiming that homosexuality is a choice, and because of their ignorance they’re bound to lose. The best part is even if they do win the worst thing they’ll do is take away some of your special privileges and then lose the exact same battle 10 years down the line.

Trying to fight SJW’s with “classical liberalism” is just as effective as trying to fight communists with socialism. They’re fundamentally from the same school of thought, the only difference is that they’re not as extreme and are a bit more libertarian, Because when you get right down to it they fight for the same thing, equality. I say “classical liberalism” instead of classical liberalism, because if most of these people ever met a real classical liberal they’d probably call them alt right or “right wing SJW’s.” And because of this need for absolute ideological conformity they attack the people immediately right of them, the only people who could actually solve the problems they complain so much about.

If I were you I’d just laugh at them. If they miss gender you then do the same back, if they tell you that “facts” don’t care about your feelings, tell them that your feeling don’t care about their “facts.” We should be trying to gaslight these fuckers from both the far left and the far right, so we can see just how delusional they’re capable of getting. They work against both of our interests, bringing the centre down will be the only way either of our groups will be able to gain traction in wider society.

Ocasio-Cortez recently set them off by falsely claiming that conservatives were making fun of her bad dancing skills in an old college video, links related. Many of them ran with it and started spreading the story around, she then used this as proof that they were bulling her from the start and in response to this “bulling” she released a new dance video, which only made them go after her twice as much.

This is a good start, but the left should take it even further by starting to claim that Otherkin are a valid form of identity and that Furries have to become the new sexual identity that everyone has to get behind. Because of the extremely reactionary and attention seeking nature of the anti SJW’s, the lefts best strategy for trolling them would be to absolutely gaslight the fuck out of them, they practically already do this to themselves.

https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-dances-people-lose-their-minds-1420348995730

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/04/politics/ocasio-cortez-dancing-video-trnd/index.html

Chewy (ID: 65925d)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  218378

There were a ton of great 50s jazz albums

(ID: 05c179)Country code: amsterdam.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  218394

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>>218377
>if they tell you that “facts” don’t care about your feelings, tell them that your feeling don’t care about their “facts.”

Actually I just give them the actual facts and then tell them that the facts don't care about their feelings.

Mk17 (p-hone) (ID: 7dd439)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218396

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>>218394
>Actually I just give them the actual facts and then tell them that the facts don't care about their feelings.
Best answer.

Noonim (ID: 0e71a9)Country code: mlpchan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  218397

>>218377
While I would agree that there has already been transexuals, and there's issues for that aspect, I do not really believe anyone could say there isn't a growing fad around it.

>They’re fundamentally from the same school of thought,

If you honestly believe that, you're more retarded than I thought.
One is collectivism, the other is individualism. As different as one can get. Hell, you've got far more in common with them, as you're, of course, a collectivist. You just disagree with their definition of the "greater good".

Mint horse (ID: 5d53a9)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218400

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>>218394
>>218396
Fair enough, my point was that these people shouldn't be taken too seriously. That and it's funny to see them freak out at the "crazy SJW's who think you can identify as a toaster" I can't remember who said that, I just looked everywhere for it, although I'm pretty it was Ben Shapiro. These people aren't capable of engaging in a polite discussion, even their intellectual leaders are complete spergs on a level that is almost inconceivable.

An example of the absolute sate of Ben Shapiro.

The moment this transgender debate got heated

>>218397
Both fight for and see equality as there main goal, the only difference is that the SJW's have more extreme methods of obtaining their goals.

I'd also disagree with people who say all they want is the expand personal liberty to the greatest extent possible. How do most of these people view the 50-60s civil rights era? They'd say it was a good thing, despite the fact that it took away the person liberty to discriminate and run private property without serious interferince from the government. They claim to be classic liberals and yet most of their 17th-19th century philosophers would probably be more in agreement with me on most issues than they would be with the average anti SJW.

Other than the free speech issue, "positive" discrimination, and the whole more than two genders thing, what actually differentiates anti SJW's from SJW's?
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Noonim (ID: 0e71a9)Country code: mlpchan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  218401

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>>218400
Not really. Near as I can tell, absolutely none of them want equality of outcome. They don't even really want equality of opportunity, as that's a poor phrasing, given that it could be taken to mean the cripple should have just as much chance to get into the Olympics as a proper athlete. Only "equality" they want is equal treatment in regards to rights.
Which is of course individualism, as opposed to the tyrannical tendencies of the collectivists SJW who, much as the fascists or the Communists, are more than happy to sacrifice people's rights, what they've earned, the very concept of justice, in the name of a greater good. This case being equality of outcome.

>How do most of these people view the 50-60s civil rights era?

Depends on who you ask. Some don't like it, some do, plenty seem to have doubts but see it as necessary. Personally, I think it needs to be extended to everyone, otherwise it isn't fair, and should be removed. Law should apply to everyone the same. But, then, I'm a bit of an oddball when it comes to that sort of thing, as I fully recognize companies can violate individual rights, and if a nation's purpose is as I believe it to be, protecting those rights, it may be necessary to say that no company should be able to discriminate based on items not relating to the job, IE political, religious, or social beliefs.
Seems we're hitting dangerous territory where a bad guy can simply be unpersoned by companies if they decide he doesn't fit their standard for "good". Companies should not be moral arbiters. Nazis and Communists should have access to basic necessities despite their beliefs. They should be able to live their lives without restriction, unless they are directly harming others.

>Other than the free speech issue, "positive" discrimination, and the whole more than two genders thing, what actually differentiates anti SJW's from SJW's?

Collectivism vs individualism.
The SJWs would happily see peoples rights restricted, if it means their social goals are met. Hell, I'm convinced they're okay with the flat murder of their rivals, as they see them as an existential threat. Point being, the SJW does not value rights any more than the fascists or the Communists.
Meanwhile, the liberal is an individualist first and foremost. They believe in rights. Their foundation is rights. The individual's rights should not be sold for some kind of societal equality, "progress", or other supposed "good".

Noonim (ID: 0e71a9)Country code: mlpchan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  218402

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>>218400
>although I'm pretty it was Ben Shapiro
...Ben Shapiro isn't a "classical liberal".
He's literally a conservative. Like, straight up a guy who thinks the government should enforce morality near as I can tell.

Mint horse (ID: 5d53a9)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218403

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>>218401

Individualism and collectivism may be another way in which the are different, but I still see them as just another branch of the same tree with methods but ultimately the same goals in mind, absolute equality.

>>218402
He calls himself a classic liberal and his fans call themselves the same. I think you just proved my point, these people call themselves one thing while practicing the beliefs of another. Again they're just an old version 1960s-1990s version of the SJW, they want to take away your rights in the name of equality just not as many or to the same extent of post 90s SJW's.

I think our main disagreement come from our perceptions of what an SJW is, could you describe your definition of one?

Noonim (ID: 0e71a9)Country code: mlpchan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  218404

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>>218403
Well then you're a retard.
They're as different positions as you can possibly get.
And as stated, individualism isn't even after equality.
Mostly, though, were talking the different between one group who says "sacrifice some for the greater good", and one so says "the individual is sovereign".

If Ben calls himself a classical liberal, he's wrong. He's made his positions clear plenty of times that he had interest in enforcing his own standards of morality on others through government. Not really a liberal item to do. But, okay: if you were meaning slimy media whores who call themselves classical liberals when they're just typical conservatives, then, yeah, I can sort of understand.
They aren't after equality, though.
They're wanting to enforce their religious standards of morality.

>I think our main disagreement come from our perceptions of what an SJW is, could you describe your definition of one?

Advocate of "social justice", which is a rather nebulous term in and of itself. Typically collectivists who seem to apply a Marxist lense to matters of social concern, be out racism or sexism. The end goal appearing to be equality of outcome, though it really kind of depends on who you ask because there are some who seem to flatly want to prop up certain groups purely for that group's gender, race, disabilities, religion, and so on. Some seem to take more of a destructive outlook, as well, wanting to get "justice" from a, say, race or gender, regardless of if the individuals in that group have actually done anything.

Mint horse (ID: 8e032d)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218405

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>>218404
I'm not trying to claim that classical liberals are SJW's, they're the furthest thing from it. I'm just claiming that most, not all of those who call themselves "classical liberal" aren't much better than SJW's.

>well then you're a retard.


Thanks, your opinion of my mental capability really contributes to this conversation.

Noonim (ID: 0e71a9)Country code: mlpchan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  218406

>>218405
That's a bit more understandable. I'd disagree, but, I can kind of get what you're saying about Ben, even if you seem to have thrown in the equality shit out of absolutely nowhere.

>Thanks, your opinion of my mental capability really contributes to this conversation.

I don't really have much to say to the idea that collectivism is the same as individualism.
Either you've never bothered to look that shit up, you're shitposting without significant consideration, or, like I said.

Mint horse (ID: 8e032d)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218407

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>>218406
>even if you seem to have thrown in the equality shit out of absolutely nowhere.

Like the vast majority of people anti SJW's believe people regardless of race, gender, or sexuality to be fundamentally equal. They may not talk about it, but when you believe something so broad about society you're inevitably going to base most of your views on it, even if your only doing so indirectly. Again this doesn't apply to all anti SJW's, just most of them.
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Noonim (ID: 0e71a9)Country code: mlpchan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  218408

>>218407
equal in terms of Rights, maybe, but, if you genuinely think that the anti sjw crowd doesn't believe that there are in here in differences between men and women, I don't think you've been paying attention.

That is one of the primary complaints, near as I can tell. I don't know about homosexuality, or really race, but when it comes to gender oh, you are definitely wrong at least. I think they do point to some levels of differences between races, but, they don't seem that extensive. Though, this might be my own lack of knowledge on that particular subject anyway.

Mikie(phone)!GlimDubEqI (ID: 765a8c)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218410

>>218407
Classical liberalism mainly focuses on equality of outcome

Not forced equality done by the state

Race, gender or whatever is something that classical liberals don't give a shit about.

This stuff exists. Whatever.

Noonim (ID: 0e71a9)Country code: mlpchan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  218415

>>218410
Not really equality of outcome. Equality of outcome is not a concern at all.
Fair treatment, is what I'd fit it as.

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>>218408
As far as I can tell the anti SJW's believe in biology differences between the genders, but they also believe that men and women should be treated equally and have similar if not the exact same role in society. They believe that the few biological differences that exist between men and women should have no impact on how they see society or society sees them. That's the impression I get from most of them, although as I've said before there are some exceptions to the contrary.

>>218410
I'm not talking about genuine classical liberals, I'm talking about those who claim to be classical liberal and yet preach the opposite, or in other words hypocrites.

Edit; I'm away for a shower, I'll be back in half an hour.
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(ID: 3d159c)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218420

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>>218417
oh, those are conservatives

Noonim (ID: 0e71a9)Country code: mlpchan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  218421

>>218417
If by that you mean they should be able to do what they want but it isn't a problem if more of them lean towards traditional gender roles if that's what they want to do, then, sure.
Because they don't care about that, after all. Individuals can do as individuals please.

Mint horse (ID: 8e032d)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218423

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>>218420
I'd say anti SJW, but I guess conservative is also accurate.

>>218421
Yeah that's what I mean, the only difference I really see between them is collectvism and authoritarianism and I don't believe the anti SJW's are half as libertarian as they claim.

From where I'm standing it's hard to see any major differences in how they're world views will play out, the only real difference is the method.

Edit; I'd say the difference between SJW's and anti SJW's is the same as the difference between communists and socialists.
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Noonim (ID: 0e71a9)Country code: mlpchan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  218425

>>218423
Not all of them when you're talking anti-SJWs flat out, sure. Hell, there's some genuine alt right people in that lump.
Though, libertarians are rather cancerous anyway. Not at all the same thing as individualists, necessarily.
Regardless, it really depends on what we're talking about here.

>From where I'm standing it's hard to see any major differences in how they're world views will play out, the only real difference is the method

That's an odd look. I assume you mean that they'll both fail? If that's the criteria for being the same, are the fascists the same as monarchists?
Doesn't seem to be very useful, honestly.

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>>218396
It's funny because when I show people scientific evidence that supports that being transgender is actually a real thing and not just a mental disorder they get all huffy and just go, "Well it still just feels wrong." yet these are the same people that go, "Facts don't care about your feelings."

It's funny that feeling don't matter to people until it's THEIR feelings that are proven wrong. Then it's nothing but excuses. Most of the people that go on about "facts vs. feelings" don't actually know any of the facts, they just like the idea that the simple childhood narrative of 'penis = boy' and 'vigina = girl' fits into their simplistic world view. Of course once you get to adult science where things actually get complex they shut down and just recite the same shit they supposedly learned in 6th grade because the truth makes them uncomfortable.

Mint horse (ID: 5d53a9)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218438

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>>218425

I'm not talking about everyone who doesn't follow SJW politics, I'm only talking about a specific group of internet shitlords who base their whole ideology around trolling and debating SJW's from the safety of their YouTube channels and twitter accounts. Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, and Atheism is unstoppable are good examples of the kinds of people I'm talking about. I'm pretty sure that I made it clear that I was only talking about a specific group of people and not the 99% of people who aren't SJW's.

>I assume you mean that they'll both fail?


Yes, but that's not the the similarity I was talking about. communism fails in much the same way as socialism and for the same reasons. I view these anti SJW's as nothing more than socialists saying to the communists that they've went just a bit to far. If they were honest I wouldn't care, it's the fact that they see themselves as diametrically opposed on every issue that annoys me.

I just got out of my shower, sorry about the wait.
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Noonim (ID: 0e71a9)Country code: mlpchan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  218443

>>218438
then I have absolutely no idea who you refer, because the group that I think of when I hear the term anti sjw is incredibly diverse.
Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson have very little in common, so, if you think they are somehow under the same ideology, I'm afraid I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. They do not think the same, they do not agree on all things. They seem to have a lot of disagreements, as it happens, because near as I can tell, Peterson is left-wing, while Been is obviously right wing.
seems to me you are just lumping them together because of their opposition to a certain thing. Does that mean capitalists and fascists are the same thing, because they both opposed communism?

I feel like this line of thinking isn't really going anywhere, to be quite honest with you. It seems like you were discussing something you either don't understand, or are referring improperly to.
Either way, I can't really make sense of this anymore. Not really sure what to do at this point.

Mint horse (ID: 5d53a9)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218445

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>>218443

I never claimed that Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson are ideologically identical, just that they base their entire careers around the same thing, debating SJW's.

Noonim (ID: 0e71a9)Country code: mlpchan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  218446

>>218445
>
>>218438
>", I'm only talking about a specific group of internet shitlords who base their whole ideology around trolling and debating SJW's from the safety of their YouTube channels and twitter accounts"

I don't see why that would matter, frankly, anyway, at least as far as our conversation on them is concerned. At this point I'm convinced you haven't thought any of this through and are basically just shitposting
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CLEAN YOUR ROOM

Mint horse (ID: 5d53a9)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218452

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>>218446

I said that they base their ideology around attacking SJW's, but I never implied that these ideologies were the same.

>just shitposting


If you feel that way then you're free to leave at any time.

Noonim (ID: 0e71a9)Country code: mlpchan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  218453

>>218452
Okay. Seems dumb, though. Frankly, I think you're full of shit on that. I do not believe that is the case. Rather, I think two people with different political beliefs are fighting against a common and rather powerful enemy, in no way different from fascists and capitalists opposing communism.

It depends on how things continue, but, I really am starting to feel like you're just completely off base to the point where I might as well be speaking a different language.

Mint horse (ID: 8e032d)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218455

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>>218450

It's time to wash your feminine penises and clean your gulag bunks because commissar Peterson is coming to town.

Jordan Peterson is a Closeted Communist

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>>218453

Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson may have different political ideologies, but they're hardly complete opposites as you're suggesting.

Noonim (ID: d10946)Country code: mlpchan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  218459

>>218457
If you're far right, I guess everyone looks a lot closer together, sure.

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>>218459

I understand that my unique political perspective somewhat perverts my perspective of more mainstream politics, but I think it's ridiculous to suggest that someone like Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson are so ideologically opposed to each other.

Noonim (ID: d10946)Country code: mlpchan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  218461

>>218460
They're not in sync, that's for sure. As stated, Ben is a conservative who seems to want the government to be a moral arbiter, pushing some of the values of his religion.
Near as I can tell, Peterson'd oppose that.

What do you mean, though, by "so ideological opposed", though? I don't know what that scale means in any reasonable metric.

Mint horse (ID: 5d53a9)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  218464

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>>218461

Ben Shapiro believes in 2010 era conservatism and is also a self proclaimed libertarian, other than that I really don't see the ideological divide. I never claimed they were identical, just that the truth were similar.

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>>218464

<Just that they were similar.


Why does Auto correct change grammatically correct words into completely different words? It also won't let me edit my last post.

Noonim (ID: 0e71a9)Country code: mlpchan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  218470

>>218464
Okay. I don't think we're really getting anywhere with this anymore, though. You made a lot of claims about people who are anti sjws, saying that they fight for equality just the same as the sjw do. you made the number of accusations about what they do and how they do it, and said they're basically the same. But then you lump in so many different people under the same umbrella, it doesn't seem to work. None of these people near as I can tell actually care about equality, in any way. Certainly not Ben Shapiro. Ben Shapiro is definitely not somebody who fights for equality.

I guess we're just going to have to agree to disagree here, because I don't think I'm going to be able to convince you, given that you kept everything so horrendously vague and generalized that no matter how many times I say Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson are not the same, and don't fight for equality, it's not going to do anything.

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>>218470
Fair enough

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