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Where do we go from here? Anonymous (ID: 7a2d5f)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid:   216037[View All]

Here is your obligatory notice. People are leaving New York, California and other blue states due to the insane costs of living. Texas and Florida are bearing the brunt of the people priced out of their former homes.

The assumption states that many people who were indoctrinated in blue states will tend to take their democratic thinking to red states and pollute the voting in their new home states.

I was the opposite. When I left California, it was to be rid of leftist thinking and unconstitutional laws that openly violated my rights as an American. I believe there are more people who think the way I do after living in three states, two of which are red politically.

tl:dr we're running out of places to retreat to. Time to make the stand.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-florida-see-big-population-gains-while-new-york-illinois-see-big-losses-census-bureau-data-show
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Mk17 (ID: 2c8cb4)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216342

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>>216334
Gotcha.

>>216336
This is also true, there are many variables, and this one is pretty big.

>>216337
No I mean like a few rich people start building multi million dollar houses out in a farming community to "get away". That will normally drive the prices of property up as more people will be looking to build out there, brings in starbucks and stuff, small general stores get driven out, and taxes go up do to the property values.

Its happening to me as we speak haha.

But its not rich peoples "fault" and they arnt doing it rubbing their hands together laughing at the poor, its just economics.

(ID: bfb083)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216344

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>>216341
this is another good case to made as well

this is something i sometimes forgot

>>216342
well would have been nice is someone specified that

i was thinking he was going on the normal "da rich people" conspiracy shit

i know they cause issues but certainty not all of it

it pisses me off when both sides ignore its government AND the wealthy

fleur (ID: 751bf0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216345

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>>216339
That's what happened here, dude CO used to be fucking awesome, now it's a blue libshit state. My friends in AK, ID and elsewhere are watching what's happening down here closely. That's one reason why people outside major cities like Anchorage are total dicks to outsiders, I mean dicks. If your a typical Seattle liberal and your car gets stuck in the snow they'll let you freeze. Alaskans may be nice but if you piss em off they'll do horrible things to you, kind of like good old boys in small midwestern towns.

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>>216342
It gets worse. If you are a company that produces goods, such as a restaurant, you have to buy product in order to make those goods. Guess who works at those places? Minimum wage workers. So now the price of your product goes up because they have to charge more to make up the difference. Gas station attendants (minimum wage) get paid more, gas prices also rise. Which is what delivery trucks run on. So now, you have to pay more for your product on top of paying your employees more, to the point in which even if the employees are doing their job flawlessly, the amount of money they are bringing in simply cannot cover the costs anymore. At that point you go under, unless you start raising your prices to ridiculous amounts just to make sure you're making more than you're putting out.

That is why prices have been going up. That is why the cost of living is so fucking high.
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Whelp!tEfVeritas (ID: 4a6bd7)Country code: goggles.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  216347

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>>216337

Because your idea of economic freedom is based around a utopian ideal, rather than reality. Your ideal is that giving people the ability to do whatever they want with their money, and reducing payments to the government in the form of taxes and whatnot is the best way to grant everyone economic freedom. When, in reality, it does the exact opposite, at least for society as a whole. Obviously, there's a tipping point for this where it becomes pointless to strive for anything, and that's why communism inevitably fails. However, forced redistribution of wealth grants a larger amount of economic freedom to most of the population. Ensuring that everyone has what they need to get by means that everyone has not only more social mobility (You know, the whole "American Dream" thing), but also that even those on the bottom can achieve at least some of what they want.

In America, wealth disparity is growing, year by year. People become more and more constrained by their finances, or rather, their lack thereof. The top 1% of the population controls nearly 35% of the wealth. Do you think they all earned their way there? How many of them do you think personally clawed their way from below the 1% up into it? Maybe a quarter, if we're being generous? Lack of social mobility equals lack of freedom.

I mean, do you feel like you have a lot of financial freedom right now, for instance?

>>216336

What exactly do you think people do when they have more disposable income? Squirrel it away under a mattress?

Plenty of countries with higher taxes and minimum wages than the US manage to have small businesses that function just fine.

>>216346

> That is why prices have been going up.


There's also this little thing called inflation.
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fleur (ID: 751bf0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216348

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>>216341
Asians here have a nice solution to that, besides working/voting as a block, the mafia. The asian part of town here is one of the few places (Actually now that I think about it the only place) that doesn't have a walmart. They will literally pay managers families a visit at night and set their homes on fire, basically the same shit mobs and unions used to pull in the midwest. The Local Vietnamese and Chinese here won't say a thing either. Violence against rich peoples families works, esp when they're asleep at night.....

fleur (ID: 751bf0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216349

>>216347
This is yet another reason why I plan on moving, once the economy tanks and cities don't have the funds for police, watch the crime skyrocket.

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>>216341

I think it depends on the regulations. Rich people don't like regulations that actually make things safer and easier for poor people. Universal access to clean drinking water, for instance. Business licenses, commercial zoning, and (especially) business insurance are total crocks of shit, but that doesn't mean you have to throw out regulations like preventing young children from being exposed to commercials.

(ID: bfb083)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216351

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>>216347
slow down there

i have no problem with taxing as a whole when the tax dollars are spent properly

the problem is they arent

in fact its mostly wasted

i dont see the point in raising taxes and regulations when it solves absolutely nothing

also, americans have a HUGE problem with debt which is financial situations are awful for the most part

everything is on borrowed time and short term

im sure you being here for as long as you have already surely sees this countries obsession with borrowed credit

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>>216347
>What exactly do you think people do when they have more disposable income?

What disposable income?

Mk17 (ID: 2c8cb4)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216353

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>>216344
Oh, idk what geap is talking about exactly. I just know that the "rich" can raise property values and cost of goods in an area.

"Rich" is perspective too, I'm in turn doing it to others. By owning a single family home, and improving it, in my area, the rent will go up for the people who rent around me and live mostly off welfare and food stamps.

>>216346
This I know, iv managed plenty of places. The other problem is, when it goes up for unskilled workers, you have to raise it for your skilled workers too, because why should someone who was making $10 over minimum yesterday suddenly just make $4 over today?
"Rich" people also seem to vote for people who support stuff like this too, do to a bit of a disconnection with what is affordable, and a desire to do "good".
Its one of the reasons the middle class is shrinking imo. Esp in metro areas.

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>>216353
Minimum wage is basically the poverty line. If you raise it, guess what else you're raising?

Mint horse (ID: adadeb)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216355

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>>216348
Based and gook pilled

/leftypol/ in a nutshell

If only the government would treat monopolisation so seriously.
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Mk17 (ID: 2c8cb4)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216356

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>>216354
Exactly.

(ID: bfb083)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216357

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>>216353
i dont know what he is talking about either

but i dont disagree with you

like i said, would have been nice is someone pointed out the specifics here

meh, oh well

>"Rich" people also seem to vote for people who support stuff like this too

this is because they know raising the minimum wage is harmful to smaller competitors

fleur (ID: 751bf0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216358

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>>216355
Ever hear about what the Koreans here did during the Rodney King riots?

Whelp!tEfVeritas (ID: 4a6bd7)Country code: goggles.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  216359

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>>216351

Well, that's where the whole Keynesian economics thing that you dislike comes in, innit? Spending money to make money. If you start off with the assumption that any money put into the government will be a waste, then you've already made it impossible to improve things for the masses.

You are assuredly right that massive amounts of money get wasted by the government, but is that really any worse than the money sitting with someone who will never even be able to spend it all, because they just have so much?

Mind you, I have nothing against the rich on principle. I'm just saying that, from a purely pragmatic standpoint, the widening gap between the top and bottom earners in the US only serves to hurt the concept of economic freedom, and there's not really any realistic way for all those resources to be redistributed, except by raising taxes. Yes, it's unsavory, but what other way is there really? The ultra-rich aren't gonna give it up willingly, they have no reason to.

>>216352

You were just talking about raising the minimum wage. Even if you raise taxes alongside it, that still leaves people on the bottom of society with a net increase in disposable income. It's not even economics, just simple logic.

(ID: bfb083)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216360

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>>216355
jesus chirst even basic /pol/ does better LARPs

>>216359
yes, it absolutely is just as bad

other than that it's just envy at that point

raising the taxes just because helps who?

honestly despite how many have their woes about the US we still have a pretty damn high standard of living and it continues to rise
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Mint horse (ID: adadeb)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216361

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>>216350
>but that doesn't mean you have to throw out regulations like preventing young children from being exposed to commercials.

I was actually taking more of a jab at capitalism by saying that capitalism inevitably leads to monopolisation, which inevitably leads to the death of small businesse and ingenuity. Basically everything that your average working or middle class capitalist loves about capitalism.

That's only one of the reasons I don't consider myself a capitalist, because capitalism inevitably becomes it's own killer. We need a reasonable regulated market if we want to maintain the independence of small businesses, support ingenuity, and genuinely help those in need.

fleur (ID: 751bf0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216362

>>216360
Our lifespan isn't tho....

Mint horse (ID: adadeb)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216363

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>>216358
Ok I'm intrigued, go on.

(ID: bfb083)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216364

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>>216362
actually yes

yes it is

the average lifespan has in fact increased

Whelp!tEfVeritas (ID: 4a6bd7)Country code: goggles.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  216365

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>>216360

Depends on how the tax money is spent. If it's spent on increasing social welfare programs, then it would help those in need of social welfare.

Calling it "envy" is assigning morality to something that should really be done without concern for morality. But even if we consider the morality of it, let's take an extreme example. Who do you think would benefit more from 50 million dollars - 1000 people without jobs, or one billionaire? Mind you, not everyone who lacks money does so because they're lazy. Some people are born naturally disadvantaged. Is it really fair to them that they're just screwed from birth? Wouldn't it make more sense to take a bit more from the financially privileged to help those who cannot help themselves? Set aside your morality for a second and just tell me if that doesn't make more logical sense for society as a whole.

Hell, what if I were to tell you that studies have shown that it's cheaper to just give the homeless homes than it is to deal with all the problems that come from them being homeless? That's one which bothered me immensely when I learned about it. It's so unfair on the face of it, right? Other people just getting what you have to work for. That's just fucked. But if it's cheaper, then isn't it more financially responsible to just do it that way? And yet we don't, because the gut feeling that such an action gives, oh, nearly anyone is terrible, because it feels so damn unfair. But if you want the government to stop wasting money - and knowing you, I know you do - then it has to start with setting aside morality. Because the logical solutions to these problems are rarely very "fair" towards the individual.

And while the average lifestyle in the US may be high, the median person's lifestyle isn't that amazing, compared to other Western countries.
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Mint horse (ID: adadeb)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216366

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>>216364
It hasn't increased since the 90s, in fact most scientists say it's actually going down because of our bad life styles.

fleur (ID: 751bf0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216367

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Mint horse (ID: adadeb)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216368

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>>216360
That wasn't LARPing, it was a joke.

Anonymous (ID: 618c55)Country code: jp, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216370

>>216042
What is so wrong with people stating the obvious that people are leaving New York and California because they continually pass laws that make it hard to live there if you actually work for a living?

Oh, wait, I get it. Those ideas are contrary to your own ability to collect welfare.

fleur (ID: 751bf0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216371

>>216370
Also defend yourself. Oldest brother lives in San fran, he has a really, really good job and an asian wife who works and makes close to what he does so they can afford to live far away from the shitpile that the city has become.

(ID: bfb083)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216372

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>>216365
that's what i mean though

it would be fine if it were spent more on things like social programs

not wars and other useless spending

i agree with you here

i just dont trust out federal government to get this right

>>216366
>>216367
interesting

(ID: bfb083)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216373

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>>216370
hello japan!

Whelp!tEfVeritas (ID: 4a6bd7)Country code: goggles.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  216374

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>>216372

Well, fair enough. To be honest, I have to agree with you that the US government isn't the most trustworthy out there. Even so, I don't really think that's a reason to give up in advance. The government just needs to be able to be held accountable to its people. Perhaps it's better to start there. But something ought to change, at any rate.

fleur (ID: 751bf0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216375

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>>216372
I'm an aspiring medfag now so I'm getting my pre-reqs for nursing done, should be good to go for my LPN this spring. This past fall was an eye opener, one of my classes covered all the stuff that affects lifespan in the USA. Dude, we're killing ourselves. Look at me and the mess I've been in as long as you've known me, only reason I'm partially stabalizing now is my shithead psychopath of a father finally died, he would still be houding me if he was alive, good riddance. I was damn near on the street, tried everything even church for help, no fucks given. GA would say I acted like a greedy, autistic selfish jew, well duh most people trying to stay fed and off the street do. People either have no idea just how bad it is or don't care, and those of us who do somehow survive like did never forget how we were treated and have no sympathy for how things are getting here now.

I'm working in a nursing home now, kind of a requirement for getting into nursing school and i'm getting to see the end result of anglo american selfishness, people are just abandoned here and die miserable, lonely lives, and they're the lucky ones. We all know damn well we'll never see the social security and medicare benefits the boomers are getting, when its our turn it's going to be fucking awful.

fleur (ID: 751bf0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216376

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>>216372
For starters, we need to do something about access to housing, healthcare and the opioid crisis. Vid related.
How childhood trauma affects health across a lifetime | Nadine Burke Harris

Whelp!tEfVeritas (ID: 4a6bd7)Country code: goggles.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  216377

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>>216375

You remind me so goddamn much of a guy named Vausten.

Kinda wish you two could have talked at some point. Would've been interesting.

Mint horse (ID: adadeb)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216378

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>>216367
This is why I love East Asians, they just don't give a shit. To them might makes right and that's why when white people are replaced by Dindus, Muslims, and Spice's they will become the new masters of the world.

Imposing a Million Fake Relatives on Ethnic Minorities Makes... CHINA ECONOMY STRONG!!!

Japan's Right Wing

>0:52. They are destroying our peace. Enemy of Japan, enemy of world, enemy of earth. These people are trash, they are shit. This is not racism, this is extermination!


Based and future master race pilled!
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(ID: bfb083)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216379

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>>216374
there does need to be change for sure

i mean, if government stopped wasting so much money there would be so much more room for social programs

even right now

but its so bloated...

>>216375
i feel like thats a pretty negative viewpoint

i believe change can be made

>>216377
LMAO

i see it so much!

fleur (ID: 751bf0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216380

>>216377
steve'an? I probably did. What's the similarity?
>>216378
Actually, that's not quite true East asians are like anyone else, thing is they didn't have someone like the pope and a bunch of corrupt clergy with arbitrary bullshit beliefs holding them back. Also, buddhism and Confucianism has valuable tenants such as an emphasis on personal responsibility and not shitting on ones society. Big suprise, most of the non Asian buddhists in the states are men, being a hoe is frowned upon and called out esp. by Asians in the sanga (Congregation).
Read up on Genghis Khan and the siege of bagdhad, he sent a few emisaries with really nice Chinese silks and every damn time the kebab just killed them. After a few times Genghis figured out it wasn't a language barrier, it was the kebab being dicks so me leveled the whole city to the ground. He put the crusaders to shame.
Also, mom was super compassionate to my psychopath of a father, any christian woman here would have just slutted it up and left him.
>>216379
So do it, thing is that change is very hard work. For the most part Americans are a very spoiled, entitled lot who feel the world owes them everything and love screwing each other over in court a bit too much. Most disgusting thing for me was watching families and kids in court just get destroyed. One thing i've always noticed, anglo, I mean pure anglo families just tossing their kids out at 18, no fucks given. Big suprise when the parents become infirm and need help the kids if they're still alive give no fucks.

(ID: bfb083)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216381

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>>216380
i think you're confusing the term "anglo" with "boomer"

Tracer Bullet (ID: 1f813e)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216382

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>>216380
>What's the similarity?
You're both gay, and had similar ideals.

fleur (ID: 751bf0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216383

>>216381
might as well, so many anglo families are mixed now, look at us.
>>216382
what ideals?

Tracer Bullet (ID: 1f813e)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216384

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>>216383
Of degenerates.

fleur (ID: 751bf0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216385

>>216384
I want them to go away.

Mint horse (ID: adadeb)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216386

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>>216380
When I said East Asians don't give a shit I meant that they don't care about other cultures or people. They have an extremely strong in group preference, that's why their families are so close.

They are also extremely collectivist and authoritarian, which means their societies are extremely functional, low crime, high trust, and efficient.
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Tracer Bullet (ID: 1f813e)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216387

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>>216385
So did he.

Only difference between you two if he liked to fuck boy butts, not receive.

fleur (ID: 751bf0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216388

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>>216386
See, that's where it gets interesting, it depends on the Asian. Japanese do despise foreigners as a rule, but if your not a total thug like a lot of Americans abroad can be and you have their values, your usually good. Most of the women i've dated were Japanese, I hate women here.
Flip side is if your a Japanese female and get knocked up by a typical tyrone you will get disowned by your family. Japanese women do come here and sleep with thugs from Oakland and LA quite a bit but they shut the hell up over it and if need be abort the fucker lest their families find out. Fun fact, Japanese women who go to school over here often times have harder times finding Japanese husbands mostly because they assume they slept around a lot and lost their traditional Japanese values.
Koreans are very, very xenophobic, they often do insist that their kids marry Koreans. While they do marry outside their race, if they're from Korea proper even if the dude is white there's a chance the family will disown her, seen it happen.
The Chinese are really interesting. Fun fact, the Mongols did take over China, what happened was they were absorbed. They were given Beijing, the forbidden city and once kids happened they married Chinese women, learned Chinese philosphy and writing. Same thing if a Chinese marries a white guy, sooner or later you get "assimilated". Your a Chinese, a white chinese but a Chinese none the less. Also, the mom will instill chinese values. There's a book out there, ballad of the tiger mom. I knew white women in Washington state who would call all Asian women tiger moms as an excuse for their shitty parenting.
Never forget when this womans book came out the white women went REEEEEE! for years.
Tiger Mom's Secret to Successful Children

fleur (ID: 751bf0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216389

>>216387
Ohh nais! I like him.

Mk17 (ID: 2c8cb4)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216390

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fleur (ID: 751bf0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216391

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>>216390
HAPA / Ka Uluwehi O Ke Kai

Need to organize my pone, it's all over the place.

Mk17 (ID: 2c8cb4)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216393

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>>216391
>Need to organize my pone
Thats why I mostly stick to just trixie.

One folder, no confusion.

fleur (ID: 751bf0)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  216395

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>>216393
Dude, I have twilight and Luna scattered in one folder, I need to sit my ass down and just sort through everything. Lot of my Twilight is between classical american artwork, gay porn and gfur.


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