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Maroon Auburn!QEUQfdPtTM (ID: dc9ba9)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid:   214903

Ring me up.

Why do people get so mad over a hat?
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☲ Prince Ember Storm!MSNowBALLk (ID: 16a47c)Country code: canadian-red-ensign.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  214905

At a quick glance:

>the video recorder guy (VRG) is not only wearing the hat, but also a shirt. No big deal, really. I don't think that's why he's being kicked out.

>He's recording in a private enterprise where the employee has asked him to stop recording
>He is obviously being a dick

Pretty sure this has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with the guy being a right fucking cunt. You're in someone's store, you don't have the right to say or do whatever you want. The store owner and their employees have every right to refuse you service and ask you to leave if you aren't abiding by the location's requirements (no shirt, no shoes, no service; essentially) or if you're being uncouth or are a danger to anyone in the store. That's just how it goes. Way I see it, this guy walks in trying to make a scene, of course he's going to be asked to leave. He can spin it as politically as he wants, it won't change the fact that he's being a dick and the employee has every right to remove him from the store for that.
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Maroon Auburn!QEUQfdPtTM (ID: dc9ba9)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  214906

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>>214905

If the customer was the one being a dick-

Why was the cashier fired and the customer called back to the shop and apologised to by the shops management?

☲ Prince Ember Storm!MSNowBALLk (ID: 16a47c)Country code: canadian-red-ensign.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  214907

>>214906
One possibility is that the customer made a fuss and the employer just didn't want to deal with it, following the flawed philosophy that the customer is always right?

It's possible he was booted for his political views, but I highly doubt that would be the ONLY reason for it.

Anonymous (ID: 325bb8)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  214912

The two news reports I found by accident on this non-event placed the blame on the employee, supported by the official tweet from the management.

Someone allowed the customer to push the wrong buttons. I'll wager that ex-employee just learned a life lesson about working for someone else that day. Some days you have to put up with shit and let it pass when your paycheck relies on it.
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Whelp!tEfVeritas (ID: faf586)Country code: goggles.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  214922

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Regardless of the customer being a dick, the clerk was clearly completely and ridiculously out of line here. Don't really think there's any ambiguity as to who was more in the wrong - I'd have fired him for that as a company too, if that sort of behavior had somehow been caught on tape.
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!Slavshit.Y (ID: 1d3268)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  214923

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>>214903

>I don't think that's why he's being kicked out.


You seriously underestimate the volatility of some people when it comes to that hat.

It is entirely possible he was mistreated just for what he was wearing.

(ID: e16abd)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  214932

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this shit happens more than you think

people sperg out over this stupid ass hat all the time

A Man Is Verbally Assaulted For MAGA Hat In Starbucks

Anonymous (ID: 325bb8)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  214933

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>>214922
Agreed. Both were looking for a fight. The employee most likely got a job already from some employer who was more sympathetic.

Play stupid games and win stupid prizes.

Chewy (ID: f9d782)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  214934

yeah uh how do I know that wasn't staged? because that was retarded

Ika (ID: 5187d5)Country code: mx, country type: geoip, valid: 1  214935

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That hat is the equivalent of wearing a nazi uniform anywhere, why does it come as a surprise?
The funniest part is that the guy wears that hat unironically, it's like a kid begging for attention of any kind.

Anonymous (ID: 325bb8)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  214936

>>214934
True enough. The question then is who made anything off the drama on social media? Did the vape shop need a bump to attract left leaning customers? Did the management want to virtue sign to the proud boys and make some new customers among them?

I just don't see any real positive outcome if this was staged for some economic gain. And I really don't want to know. This is industrial strength retardation we're witnessing here.

Maroon Auburn!QEUQfdPtTM (ID: dc9ba9)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  214937

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>>214935

>Supporting Trump instantly makes you a nazi


Jesus Ika, I know you like to bait but cmon pal you can do better, I believe in you man
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Ika (ID: 5187d5)Country code: mx, country type: geoip, valid: 1  214939

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>>214937
That's not really what I meant, but people react to it the same way they would react to a nazi uniform. The guy with the hat must have been extremely retarded to not be able to predict something like this or he was just a dick that was bored, stirred up some shit and went directly to r/the_donald to gloat about it.

Both of those situations would be equally pathetic imo.

Anonymous (ID: 325bb8)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  214940

>>214937
You only need to watch enough social media to know there are large numbers of people in the US who will never forgive those who voted for President Trump. It would not be surprising if the number of such violent people were over a million of such people. Just look at the rioting in Portland, OR. Sore losing gone viral. And yes, many do think Trump supporters are old school fascist.

Momiji (ID: 725cbe)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  214945

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>>214939
I wear my hat whenever I want to. Suck it.

Anonymous (ID: 47b772)Country code: unitedponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  214946

>>214937

If you were expecting anything intelligent to come from him, then you are fooled from the beginning.

Ika (ID: 5187d5)Country code: mx, country type: geoip, valid: 1  214947

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>>214945
Hey, if you want to look like an autist in public be my guest, more laughs for me.

Momiji (ID: 63287c)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  214948

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>>214947
I laugh at you too.

Chewy (ID: f9d782)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  214951

>>214936
so people can laugh at DEM STUPID LIBERULZ on social media? idk

Honey Dew!GpyjCVYSNk (ID: 98b712)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  214958

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Like I needed another reason to hate both sides.

Anonymous (ID: 325bb8)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  214997

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Ah, Seattle. Such a beautiful city in the summer. But wait, what do I hear going on across the street?

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=QRBoHOL3wD4

PC (ID: 4c92d8)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  215060

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>>214903
>people are this mad that orange man won that they're willing to publicly humiliate themselves over apparel 2 years later

Starshine!Laura/wmXM (ID: d96a72)Country code: lunachan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  215066

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>>214932
But Mikie, don't you believe private businesses should have the right to refuse service to any customer for any reason? Why couldn't MAGAbro just go to a different vape shop instead of making a scene?

Disclaimer: I am not defending the clerk's actions.

(ID: e16abd)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  215068

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>>215066
yes. dont you?

Starshine!Laura/wmXM (ID: d96a72)Country code: lunachan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  215069

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>>215068
I'm ambivalent tbh.

Who is the "bad guy" in this situation? Who was the "bad guy" in the nail salon situation?

Noonim (ID: 05cdae)Country code: mlpchan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  215070

>>214905
The guy was reeing before he started recording. He started recording because the shit was making a scene. None of this'd've happened if he hadn't made a scene.
He's also not the store owner.

But, hey, don't let me get in the way of your nonsensical attacks on people because of their desire to stand up to obnoxious thugs.
I understand completely why you don't like that sort of thing.

(ID: e16abd)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  215071

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>>215069
doesnt matter

if the refused service its his own loss

and now him sperging out is a thing

let it it rot

Noonim (ID: 05cdae)Country code: mlpchan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  215072

>>214907
The idea that the "customer is always right" is not really relevant in this particular case.
Autistically screeching at people and calling them racists because of their political leanings is dumb as fuck, and should have no place in business.
It's why we're quickly going the route of literally separate sections for left and right people, online. Straight up segregation on political lines, because one side decided they'd start dragging that shit into the realm of business and platforms.

Noonim (ID: 05cdae)Country code: mlpchan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  215073

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>>215066
Supporting someone making a fuss about being denied services is not a conflict of principles to the idea of private business ownership and right to refuse service.
Making a fuss is perfectly legitimate under even full ancap systems.

He could've definitely gone somewhere else if he didn't want to make a scene. But, then the guy'd be still working there, and'd do it again.
Personally, I'd rather people start standing up for their values more. I dislike the constant habbit of people being mistreated and doing nothing about it.
More people need to resist that shit.

Starshine!Laura/wmXM (ID: d96a72)Country code: lunachan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  215078

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>>215071
Fair enough.

>>215073
>Supporting someone making a fuss about being denied services is not a conflict of principles to the idea of private business ownership and right to refuse service.
I suppose not. But doesn't the right to refuse service necessarily entail the right to remove a customer from the premises? Don't people who make a fuss over being refused service/removed from the premises just get mocked and end up in cringe compilations for it 99% of the time, except the 1% of the time when their refusal to leave is an act of owning libs?

>Personally, I'd rather people start standing up for their values more. I dislike the constant habbit of people being mistreated and doing nothing about it.

Some people can only be called an entitled SJW for standing up for their values so many times before they say "fuck it" and call it quits.

Noonim (ID: 05cdae)Country code: mlpchan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  215080

>>215078
They have that right, but that doesn't make it right.

>Don't people who make a fuss over being refused service/removed from the premises just get mocked and end up in cringe compilations for it 99% of the time, except the 1% of the time when their refusal to leave is an act of owning libs?

It's why you don't make a fuss and remain calm about it.
Record the encounter, but remain calm. Don't be rude, don't raise your voice, try to be understanding, give options if you can, but, basically, don't do anything necessarily "cringey".

>Some people can only be called an entitled SJW for standing up for their values so many times before they say "fuck it" and call it quits.

I guess it depends on your circles. But, I find, at least going by what I had always defined as SJWs, it isn't a defense of their values as much as a flat refusal to allow those who disagree with them any kind of courtesy or consideration.
If you are a nazi, accurately called that or no, you do not deserve to have a job, a bank, a home, and so on. You should be shunned from all walks of society, everyone should refuse to serve you, and any place where you would seek shelter should be condemned for housing you.

I don't really see this sort of behavior as something of values.

Starshine!Laura/wmXM (ID: d96a72)Country code: lunachan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  215081

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>>215080
>But, I find, at least going by what I had always defined as SJWs, it isn't a defense of their values as much as a flat refusal to allow those who disagree with them any kind of courtesy or consideration.
See, I still kind of operate under the "anyone who's anti-racism and pro-LGBT is an SJW" definition. I know that's not your definition, but it's the one used by the people who actually popularized the term, so...

>If you are a nazi, accurately called that or no, you do not deserve to have a job, a bank, a home, and so on. You should be shunned from all walks of society, everyone should refuse to serve you, and any place where you would seek shelter should be condemned for housing you.

I don't call that SJW, I call it McCarthyism.

Noonim (ID: 05cdae)Country code: mlpchan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  215082

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>>215081
Yeah, see, I can't use that definition, because by that logic, I'd be a SJW. People like Sargon, for that matter, would be SJWs.
Any individualist standing against collectivist identitarians would be, and many of those are anti-feminist and anti-progressive types.

Though, I guess doing that also gets rid of a lot of SJWs, since, a lot of them are also quite racist and sexist anyway. But, eh.

>I don't call that SJW, I call it McCarthyism.

I don't mean to suggest that is what SJWs are. Rather, it seems to be a tactic used currently by SJWs, more or less.

Starshine!Laura/wmXM (ID: d96a72)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  215084

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>>215082
I guess I just never really managed to wash the bad taste of /pol/ out of my mouth. It pretty much ruined the word for me. And probably my outlook on politics as a whole honestly.

!ScyphTlOY6 (ID: 63d1c8)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  215086

>>215081
>>215082
>>215084
My definition of SJW has always been someone who takes the ideals of anti-racism too far and ends up becoming anti-white and pro-segregation (and, you know, repeat for various kinds of demographics other than race).

Starshine!Laura/wmXM (ID: d96a72)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  215088

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I dunno man, this right to refuse service thing just gives me hella cognitive dissonance. People back it up to me like "well, wouldn't you want the right to refuse service to a nazi", and...well, would I?

I don't think this guy had the moral right to refuse service any more than someone has the moral right to refuse service to someone for something protected by civil rights laws, even if legal right exists for one of those things. People can argue that political views are not morally neutral, and they're right in my opinion, but plenty of people think being gay or trans isn't morally neutral either. And even people with views you find morally repulsive do, in fact, need to hold jobs and feed their families, need to have access to goods and services...is it right to let them starve?

Pharmacies are businesses; should a pharmacist have the legal right to refuse to fill a life-saving prescription because the person who needs it has a swastika tattoo?

There are definitely lots of things that I think there should be a protected legal right to refuse service for, and I understand several perfectly valid moral and pragmatic reasons why "for any reason" is the line people draw, but...I can't come to a satisfying conclusion on this. I think that both the existence and the lack of this right are rife with abuse potential and it frustrates me.

>>215086
An awful lot of people use this definition in bad faith, though.

!ScyphTlOY6 (ID: 63d1c8)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  215089

>>215088
>An awful lot of people use this definition in bad faith, though.
Okay. I'll try not to be one of them.

Starshine!Laura/wmXM (ID: 7e6f21)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  215090

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Note: take everything that I've said in this thread with a grain of salt, and please don't judge me too badly if I said something really stupid, because I'm quitting nicotine and, to be honest, my cognitive functions are mega fucked. I shouldn't do things that require thinking when my thinking is impaired, but I can't resist opining on subjects like these.

Anonymous (ID: 325bb8)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  215095

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>>215073
>Personally, I'd rather people start standing up for their values more. I dislike the constant habit of people being mistreated and doing nothing about it.
Be careful what you wish for. The results may not be what you expected.

Mint horse (ID: a4aa7c)Country code: gb, country type: geoip, valid: 1  215110

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>>215095
Pic related, based and autistic pilled

Mk17 (ID: 666be3)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  215111

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Anyone going to mention how incredibly awkward that black guy looks?

Kinda weird the video ends, but the audio doesn't, when the black guy starts backing up the trump supporter.

Like the video says its 4 min long, but it will only let me skip to ~3:30.
Weird.

(ID: 3bdf44)Country code: mlpchan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  215113

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>>215110

> autistic pilled

> not iron pilled

Mikie(phone)!GlimDubEqI (ID: 6e9a04)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  215115

>>215111
Lol yeah I saw

Anonymous (ID: a4d5b7)Country code: us, country type: geoip, valid: 1  215126

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>>215110
Don't forget, no one actually denies Aktion T4, and you get the gas too.

Starshine!Laura/wmXM (ID: 7e6f21)Country code: ponychan.png, country type: customflag, valid: 1  215127

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>>215095
>the """reality""" of race


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