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Fen!!Shining Armor 689812Sticky[View]

#meta #non-official #DoingHisJobForOnce
Now that the dust has settled a bit, how are the existing rules for /chat/ working out / not working out.
Anyone have any suggestions for changes?
Feel free to post complaints about /chat/ in general here too, i've not really got my finger on the general mood of the board yet.
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Fen!!Shining Armor 690841

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Spoilered and clearly indicated to be NSFW, I.E no "Surprise i actually posted porn.", i was under the impression an individual filter would be used outside of /chat/.

There's also an option to automatically spoiler all images in a mature thread for the issue of browsing a mature thread in an 'unsafe' enviroment like school or work.
It used to be default, but a lot of people didnt realise it could be toggled so it was flipped around to being opt-in.

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The Fundamental Question of The Housing Crisis 687854[View]

Its cold out this morning. I am reminded of what its like to try to sleep when its just a little colder than this, and to have little to keep yourself warm. Its almost too cold to sleep, and you mostly just shiver and get muscle cramps through the night.

Which brings me to place our current housing crisis into the context of the crisis of needing to stay warm and find shelter when the weather gets rough. Exactly what is the purpose of a building, to you? What do you think it should be? Is the purpose of it to extract rent from us indefinitely and until the building is in such disrepair as to require regulation to dictate a response and fix it, else it be replaced? If that is so, then it is no surprise and of little care or consequence when those that cannot afford the rent experience terrible harm or die locked outside of an empty building, in the cold or exposed to danger. If the purpose of buildings is profit, then the sign in the picture might seem absurd to you.
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What it means to me, is that we must pay attention to the voice inside of us that says 'this person is in trouble, I need to help - I CAN help'. We need to pull the great illusion from our eyes that makes us unable to see that a set of bolt cutters can save lives here; only a small piece of metal stands between shelter, warmth, and the indigent's exposure to the elements. The thing that makes us act as if regular payments on buildings are more important than people or the utility of the building itself.

No amount of profit milking makes it excusable to see vast buildings - resources for shelter and protection - being locked while people attempt to survive shunned, cold and in squalor in its alleyways.

Imagine you have a set of bolt cutters. If you knew of a large, unused building that is locked up, and you knew there were needy and homeless people in its area, and that it would be very cold and possibly dangerous to be outside. You could be saving a life. *snorts*

I would want to liberate that building.

What would you do?
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You're missing the point I tried to make.

When I say generous or nice I don't mean giving away a product for free to consumers.

I mean like if one of their employees can't make rent so they give him an extra 100 one month just to help him out, EVERY OTHER EMPLOYEE will also want an extra 100. If a customer wants to return something but genuinely lost their recipt and the company feels bad for them because they are being honest and return it anyway, even if it's against policy, EVERY OTHER CUSTOMER will demand the same treatment. And at least 40% of those people will be lying just to get something for free.

When we have food we can't serve at a restaurant, we are required to throw it away. We can't give it to anyone even if it's still edible. Do you know why? It's not because we want to be wasteful or don't care about the hungry people that could eat it, it's because if we gave food away to someone like a homeless person just because it was slightly damaged or not prepared properly then people would PURPOSELY mess up food so it had to be 'thrown away' so they could eat it for free.

We can't afford that kind of underhandedness. And there is no other 'evil corporation' telling them to do it. It's their own personal greed.

You seem to think that the average citizen can do no wrong but the reality is that the main reason so many restrictions are in place to begin with is because in general people are going to try and take advantage of any situation they can, and the only way to survive is to not put yourself in a position to be taken advantage of.


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>We can't afford that kind of underhandedness. And there is no other 'evil corporation' telling them to do it. It's their own personal greed.

Corporations represent collective greed. Not any one person's.

What you said above makes more sense to me now, but still ; you are humanizing corporations. Entities whose purpose is to extract wealth for 3rd parties - they don't care about being human. They care about exploiting them for a bottom line. If it doesn't increase shareholder value, its questionable. The primary purpose of a publicly traded company is to increase shareholder value - those that don't will lose to those that do because the reward system is set up for fervent exploitation and growth.
That we can't sustain.

>I mean like if one of their employees can't make rent so they give him an extra 100 one month just to help him out

This is what 'solving the core problems of capitalism' always tries to do; just reallocate the problem. The problem is very clear, but we'll bend every way we can to find a solution that doesn't address the core problem; people can't pay rent. "We can't give you any extra money either or everyone else would want some!" - clearly paying rent is more important than sheltering people here.
I can't agree - the banks don't need any more money. They can't keep making higher and higher margins off the backs of the workers that struggle to pay their rent without destroying people in the process. Its not a justifiable trade.

>people are going to try and take advantage of any situation they can, and the only way to survive is to not put yourself in a position to be taken advantage of.

This is not sustainable for our basic humanity, our community, and probably even our planet. Another consideration is to reduce ways and incentives in which things can be taken advantage of. This system can't continue forever without brutality, its nature is brutal.

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You honestly sound like you have gotten all of your information on the way corporations work from cartoons, comics and video games.

Even the terminology that is used seems rather silly.

"they don't care about being human. They care about exploiting them for a bottom line. If it doesn't increase shareholder value, its questionable. The primary purpose of a publicly traded company is to increase shareholder value", this is literally a 10 year old's view of corporate economics after binge watching Captain Planet.

Regardless of that, I don't know how whatever it is your proposing would work any better. People are still people and no matter how fair you try and treat them there are always going to be that minority that want more than everyone else.

Let me state it simply for you: Any plan you come up with that relies on the phrase, "If people would only..." is never going to work.

Because they won't. Ever.
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Anonymous 690641[View]

Expand your mind yo
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Anonymous 690812

Anonymous 690873

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You know who doesn't get enough hate?
Libertarian Tankies.

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Anonymous 681815[View]

Hey! mind getting a relax music thread going?


I could use some more soothing music for studying.
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☲ Prince Ember Storm!SNowbAlLfo 690804

It was in Welcome to Night Vale. I liked it.

Chewy [Element Of Fortitude]!MUSIC.FbVY 690810


Yes, very. I just lay down on the couch with headphones, drape myself in blankets, close my eyes and zone out to the whole thing.

Despite the piece being very simple and extensive, I find it very interesting, it is like listening to a relaxing form of tinnitus, which I know doesn't really make sense, but that's how it is for me. And I like the barely audible clicks and pops that happen every couple minutes. I think she is a very underrated composer, especially when you read about some of her inspirations, it's very interesting.

But I can see how some people might find it irritating.

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/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General Anonymous 690527[View]

We don't have an official steam or discord group. If anyone posts in the thread about any "official" or not steam or discord groups, promising MP or not, be sure it's a shitposter group known for organizing raids and shitposting in the thread. They are known for false-flagging.
Report and ignore it.

How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, February 22th:
1744 – War of the Austrian Succession: The Battle of Toulon causes several Royal Navy captains to be court-martialed, and the Articles of War to be amended.
1862 – Jefferson Davis is officially inaugurated for a six-year term as the President of the Confederate States of America in Richmond, Virginia. He was previously inaugurated as a provisional president on February 18, 1861.
1915 – World War I: The Imperial German Navy institutes unrestricted submarine warfare.


CK2 DD41 - Secret Religious Cults

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Anonymous 690772

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literally reddit
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Knight of Steamcordplaza 690774

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>So this is just for fun?
Nah, this thread was created to appease Cobraaahhh our resident barneyfag.

Starshine!Laura/wmXM 690792

I see. Well, enjoy.

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Sabbing 689976[View]

I discovered this the other day while browsing some web content from my comrades in the old empire.


Or, if you prefer, sabotaging hunts. So basically here's the rundown: wealthy people love their wealthy people sports. In england, one such sport is hunting small game on horseback, using dogs and such. Some pheasant hunting and you know firearms laws are a bit more restrictive there. Sometimes rich people pay to have animals set lose so they have things to hunt down.

Thats all fine and dandy I guess except now, its illegal. Unless you want to be a fucking asshole to them or save foxes and badgers of course, then here's your calling. Well, comrades, thats exactly what sabbing is. (no word if the law is still in effect)
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Combining animal rights & sentience movements, lots of vegans, and with the agitation of the burgiouse, sabbing seeks to protect that small game from harm as well as make sure safety is observed by actively engaging with the hunting pack and hunters, issuing commands to animals/alerting them, and being impeccably keen on recording everything because 'its an investigation of a crime' (which apparently, trespassing is a civil matter in most cases without threatening behavior and can only be considered criminal if the owner is there telling them to leave and they won't. They argue civil infractions are of less concern than criminal evidence and its a civic duty to investigate misuse of hunting and firearms laws that appear criminal)

They like to wear a balaclava too.

Whats your take? Even I think its pretty dickish but I have to laugh and support it on principal.

here's a clip of hunters being pissed off
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Anonymous 690320

I hate sport hunting, but at the same time I hate anti-hunting too. I'm a trapper, and anti-hunting stuff always hits pretty close to home, and these guys are nothing more than anti-nature activists.

I'm really not in favor of vegans or sentio-centrism either. Sentience is irrelevant to morality, and veganism is just straight up evil.

That's despicable.

Rainy Days !RainyCDNSI 690486

Guess what you'll find when you live in the countryside?
Animal corpses, it's inevitable.
Sure, but that line of thinking is only a problem, that's why not enough people care about the wellbeing of animals like sharks, or other ugly animals are going extinct, because people only care about the wellbeing of species that they find cute.


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You find them in the city too.

>that line of thinking is only a problem

sooo... don't care about some things living, because you don't care about other things ?

Half the foxes in england get killed by cars anyway. Its not like they are doing much good by rampaging through private and public property after the hounds.

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CPU Trump 690632[View]

Donald Trump is a such a meme. Im so glad he is in office. Trump is hilarious.
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🐈🐈UMR🐈🐈!SUCC/WBAqg 690678

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First I fuck my sister, then I fuck my mom
Then I fuck my cousin, then I fuck my son
Then I go to church, then I fuck my mom
And then I say grace, then I fuck my mom

Anonymous 690679

This guy fucks.

Snowbell!MbICrazyYs 690715

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I approve.

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CPU whiteboy 689221[View]

It feels good to be white.
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Elicoor13 690462

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which makes trapping madoka in her personal hell all the worse. homura is either a massive moron for thinking this would work, or a monster.

we're kinda beating a dead horse here, homu is worst demi-urge.

part of me thinks rebellion was just the writer(s? i have no clue who wrote that bullshit) going "homu is trash and you're trash for liking her".

the best thing about that movie was the songs and shit.

Solar Empire Commander (Admiral of the Imperial Navy)!Ritter1tDM 690692

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You may don't like such characters and motives but I do.

Admiral 690697

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>part of me thinks rebellion was just the writer(s? i have no clue who wrote that bullshit) going "homu is trash and you're trash for liking her".
Knowing the author is Gen Urobuchi, and Madoka was the happiest thing he was ever going to write, I'd put good money on that. Seems like the type to dedicate a movie to running up the score on waifufags.

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/Spacetime/ Time; #48 Adlbeay!Moon/tgj4w 684099[View][Last 50 Posts]

(There's really been a lot of these, right?)

The stormy season of April had passed by during the night, and with the rising sun, the day is giving way to the fragrant bloom of May blossoms. Clouds part way for the bright sun to illuminate the paintbrush hues of the landscape, and the warm late-season breeze carries with it all varieties of birdsong, filling the air with the color and chorus of life.

Which is why this was the perfect day to stay indoors to do some inner research. For once, it was better to disregard these byproducts for today, the piercing bore of human progress has finally cracked open the foundations of reality; you had just discovered a time machine.

Well, what else could it be? It even looked like someone had done a spectacularly terrible job of trying to disguise the fact that it could pretty much only be a time machine. It was, in fact the most stereotypically time machine-like time machine anyone could imagine, yet it looks as if someone had sloppily taped cardboard around it in an attempt to make it look like a refrigerator. It was such shoddy work, and you wondered why anyone had even bothered.
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The thing that was definitely a time machine loomed like a statue in the center of the room, wafting out a faint scent of ozone and copper. It must have displaced the matter around it as it arrived, since one of its edges was occupying the space where half of your chair should have been. As you shove the chair aside, it toppled over on its two remaining legs, thumping down on the dusty floor. Looking around, you started reaching for the entrance handle, but thought better of it. Instead, you move over to the small mailbox-shaped bin attached to the side of the machine. There was nothing inside except for a newspaper clipping and an envelope. You take a look at the newspaper, a cutout of the week’s weather, dated three years into the future. It was otherwise unremarkable, so you open up the envelope.

Wow, why would you write something like that? It was disorienting, seeing your own handwriting attached to a message you clearly have never written, and definitely, resolutely, never will. But now, you know you will. The presence of the note, along with the time machine, is undeniable. With the staggering weight of this realization, you reached for a chair, but found only half of one. You plop down on the
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Rutilus !2LeWD7Q2BA 690803

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Well I'm glad to hear your birthday is going so well =P

!Beemo/ZZYY 690805

Even with work, it's not all that bad ^^

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talk about your dreams Chewy [Element Of Fortitude]!MUSIC.FbVY 657170[View][Last 50 Posts]

>tfw had a dream that my virginity was taken by someone from this site
>tfw it's one of the only dreams I remember actually having sex in and "finishing", since generally when I have lewd dreams they end before the sex actually happens
>tfw woke up and was mildly disappointed that it wasn't real

Not gonna say who it was because I don't want this thread to just be a circlejerk about wanting to fuck certain posters, so does anyone else wanna share dreams they've had recently, or in general?

Any recurring dreams you have, and what you think they mean? (doesn't have to be lewd)
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Starshine!Laura/wmXM 690228

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Yeah, it was the same basic analog clock that pretty much every classroom in the country has.

PiercingSight !zEniXTGVeQ 690669

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Dude, you need something else to test. Like jumping, or reading a book.

Crimson Risk !RISkQqf4EM 690681

maybe consistent reality tests have taught your subconscious to deal with them

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"He's gonna let the states handle it" Anonymous 690623[View]

Trump's spokesman affirmed that they will start rigorously enforcing federal-level recreational cannabis bans.
Our new Attorney General just happened to rescind an Obama-era memo that instructed the Justice Department to reduce the use of private prisons today as well.

>Sessions writes in the order that returning to the Bureau of Prisons' earlier approach would provide flexibility. "The memorandum changed long-standing policy and practice, and impaired the Bureau's ability to meet the future needs of the federal correctional system," Sessions writes. Outside companies currently house about 21,000 inmates for the Justice Department, the agency reports, down from a peak of 30,000. The overall federal prison population has been falling in recent years because of changes in how some low-level offenders are sentenced.

Sessions has made similar statements, saying the last thing we need during an opiate epidemic is to allow alternatives to opiates: http://www.oregonlive.com/marijuana/index.ssf/2017/02/trump_administration_takes_aim.html

California and Washington state sure are getting under Trump's skin lately...lots of recreational pot use going on in those states.
Looks like America's modern-day slavers and drug warriors are in for a very, very profitable 4 years!
I'm so glad that just enough dipshits decided that a rabidly authoritarian demagogue with a serious vindictive and narcissistic streak was the correct choice for President of the United States.

"State's rights!" lol.....
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Anonymous 690671

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It really won't though.
All he has to do is continue what Bush did and what took Obama years to stop doing; give money to the DEA, and don't restrict the DEA from working with local PDs to raid dispensaries and cancer patients.

PDs love raiding dispensaries, houses, and other assets they can seize and auction off to fund themselves.
The DEA will have little trouble finding PDs to support them once Obama's order requiring funds from seized assets go to the state instead of the PD is rescinded or not enforced.

Trip Touhous Based 'Titles' 'The God Himself' Stagemaster Foalins!oImGreatxA 690673

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Oh dear. You seem to have vastly underestimated the degree to which our state and local governments and police actually oppose enforcing the federal law in this case. From councilmen to congress literally everyone here would rather retain the billion dollar tax base than seize assets for a year or so and create a massive black market and budget shortfall.

All a state need do is strike marijuana from its books entirely, disarming state police from working with federal enforcement and shifting burden back to the DEA in total then Trump suddenly doesn't have the manpower to pursue his self defeating political suicide at our expense.
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Trip Touhous Based 'Titles' 'The God Himself' Stagemaster Foalins!oImGreatxA 690674

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Come to think of it the idea that states are just gonna roll over and take it up the ass along that reasoning is probably the most severe political miscalculation trump could make.

At 70% public opposition to a crackdown Marijuana is far more popular than he is.

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N40 667330[View][Last 50 Posts]

Ya es hora
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Anonymous 689512

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Anonymous 690240

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compartiendo nuevas argentas

Anonymous 690241

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Two BIG Websites Attacked; also TrumpFloat 690277[View]

These times we live in.

Earlier today I got wind through some folks at a science publication that NaturalNews was just delisted from google. This stands as a major boon for the academic community, whom in recent times is quite apprehensive about the near future for science in US.

NaturalNews is not just BS science, but its conspiracy theories, anti-vaccer shit, and lots of spurious claims. If you want content that claims to cure cancer in 3 easy steps, burn fat with this miracle food, or justify why vaccines cause autism and are part of the globalist conspiracy - naturalnews is your place.

>globalist conspiracy

Whats that? Globalist Conspiracy you say? Target number 2 is none other than infowars. Their ad carrier has just dropped them - some of the information on the relationship I was hearing was that infowars earned about 3 million in ad revenue last year alone.

Alex Jones is freaking out about 'the globalists' on his site.

I smell shit going down ya'll. Enjoy this TrumpFloat from Italy while we watch the internet itself fight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy0dox4l09o
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>AnCom is based on the idea of abolition of all property that a person isn't using literally in that moment
in Rojava its voluntary to participate in the communal economy. You could use the land you always had to farm and sell in syria if you want and people do. Some communes even have typical market competition with each other.


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>numerous others
Tell me more, I'm studying anarchist societies - what are the other ones you know of?


lets see theres this one... oh hey look what George Orwell said about it


I had dropped more or less by chance into the only community of any size in Western Europe where political consciousness and disbelief in capitalism were more normal than their opposites. Up here in Aragon one was among tens of thousands of people, mainly though not entirely of working-class origin, all living at the same level and mingling on terms of equality. In theory it was perfect equality, and even in practice it was not far from it. There is a sense in which it would be true to say that one was experiencing a foretaste of Socialism, by which I mean that the prevailing mental atmosphere was that of Socialism. Many of the normal motives of civilized life—snobbishness, money-grubbing, fear of the boss, etc.—had simply ceased to exist. The ordinary class-division of society had disappeared to an extent that is almost unthinkable in the money-tainted air of England; there was no one there except the peasants and ourselves, and no one owned anyone else as his master.
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Music About Fightin' Facists 689687[View]

Well, us on the far and radical left are celebrating. I won't go into details but a prominent, venomous spokesperson who spews hate and bashes leftist values and is just a generally offensive troll appears to have had their career sunk today. Abandoned by their own conservative party. Now possibly too tarnished to get decent sponsorship in the future.

And we are celebrating and helping any way we can to bring this person's career and influence 'lo. Every drop in the fail cascade is revitalizing us.

We are also happy the guy in the picture got ejected from a libertarian convention. Kudos to those who did the right thing and made it a bad place for him to be.

So I am dumping music we have been working to. Because these are very political and emotional songs I'll try to provide lyrics in the expanded show/hide function. Feel free to share you own if you've any. If you are a fascist I hope you can at least appreciate the struggle of the common man in these songs.

Irish Descendants - Come Out Ye' Black And Tans

I was born in the Dublin street
Where the loyal drums do beat,
And the loving English feet walked all over us;
And every single night when me dad would come home tight,
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"Night of the Living Rednecks" - Dead Kennedys

not as much a song as a short story told while Jello's guitarist repairs their guitar

The story starts out "I wanna tell you a story, about the last time I was in Portland"
I like this. Some of the lyrics are ehhh to me, but hey, overall, me gusta.

its cute!


Crass has some of the most provocative polarizing lyrics in punk. I don't agree with most of them but they really scratch that raw edgy contrarian itch. The Feeding of the 5000 is a very good time.


I love that the vocals are both male and female.

I also love that I disagree with some of the stuff or it seems to be put forward in a disagreeing manner, it makes you listen. Sometimes a justification pops out later and you're like 'oh, okay' but its a mosh pit of an idea in a way.

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