So I mentioned the /jazz/ general on /mu/ in an /oat/ thread, now I decided that I wanted to say something here about jazz, something I saw someone say on /mu/ at one point, I wish I had the exact quote...
But it was more or less about how jazz is one of the few forms of popular music that has been so massively diverse, influential, artistic, skillful, etc., yet almost always remained so far removed from pop culture, even hipsters.
I mean of course most average people know jazz exists, and have an idea of what it can be, but only a vague idea, like I think the average person just thinks of jazz music as bands with a saxophone, drums and piano playing moody nighttime or club music, which has truth to it, but is also a major stereotype/generalization, because jazz extends far beyond that, even into avant-garde territory.
and most people can probably name a few famous jazz artists such as Louis Armstrong or John Coltrane, but I don't think so many people know how many hundreds of important artists there are to be discovered. I myself still have so much to explore.
and I think a lot of rock fans don't recognize the influence jazz had on rock (and many other genres), every time people talk about "best drummers of all times" it's always rock band drummers and rarely jazz drummers even though there were many great jazz drummers who came long before the most well-known rock drummers, because jazz was innovating artistically from the early 20th century to the 1960s when rock first started being taken seriously as an art form and going beyond just commercial pop stuff (pic related).
it's just not really "cool" to like jazz for some reason, so it remains largely out of the view/ears of "normies" (hate to use that term, but you know what I mean). but it's not hipster enough that you seem interesting for liking it, which is why I think most music publications don't cover jazz often unless they are a publication that specializes in jazz.
and then of course there's the big meme that "jazz is dead" because most people can't name a jazz artist who released a significant album after the 80s, but from what I've heard/read
, jazz is actually thriving in the underground and continuing to push boundaries. the thing is that even actual jazz fans tend to stay within that 40s-70s "golden age", or at least the age that produced the most well-known classics.
maybe I'm just "sheltered" in the sense that I usually