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104267 No. 104267
#Reviewer
Come on in, one and all, to the second iteration of Golden Vision's review thread! You can find my first such thread here: http://www.ponychan.net/chan/fic/res/95560.html

So! I'm a reviewer, as you may have guessed, and I'm here to take a look at your story and review it, edit it, and possibly proofread it. I'm also a writer myself (you can find me on fimfiction.net), and so I like to think that I bring a unique viewpoint compared to those reviewers who've never had to submit something to EqD. I tend to be more sympathetic toward the writer, and certainly less scathing—I know what it's like to stare at a screen, willing words to come for hours, finally writing something down, and then realizing (or failing to realize) that it's all crap.

Depending upon circumstance. I get plenty of good fics and bad fics (both of which I'll accept). I myself specialize in [Comedy] and [Adventure] fics, though I'll take most any genre of story. However, there are a few stories that I will not accept:
-Gore or Porn: I hope that everyone can see the obvious reasoning behind this.
-Uncommon Format: This includes poetry, screenplays, and so on. It's not that I don't think there are worth writing—I do, otherwise I could hardly appreciate Faust's work in this kind of area—but I recognize that I have no experience in this area, and as such could not hope to look over it with the kind of critical eye that it would require.
-Trollfics: I realize that these can be well-received on sites such as fimfiction and fanfiction.net (if they're well-done). That said, unless you have a character, plot, well-developed setting, or so on, there's no way I can give your fic a proper review. I may laugh over your story with everyone else once it's posted (again, if it's any good), but I wouldn't be able to edit that kind of randomness.

Additionally, there are some extra rules that I need to get out of the way:
1. Post your story both on this thread, and in my submission queue. You can find the link to the submission form at the bottom of the sticky. Stories that are not submitted to both places will be ignored.
2. Some things you must include with your submission include: Title, Author, Tags, Characters, Word Count, and Synopsis. All of these fields are required.
3. NO SUBMISSION FORMATS OTHER THAN GOOGLE DOCS SHALL BE ACCEPTED. It's by far the easiest method for me to review by, especially with line-by-line commentary (copy pasting your text to annotate it with my comments gets very annoying, very quickly). Just make an account, slap your story on a new doc, and send it over to me. Just remember: you must make the document accessible to the public/anyone with the link, and have comments enabled. Unless you have some major issue with Google Docs (which I will be okay with; you just need a damn good reason to get around this requirement), I expect everyone to fulfill this requirement.
4. I'm not your proofreader. I'll gladly point out a few grammar mistakes or typo trends, but if your style of writing is currently at the level of My Immortal in terms of mechanics, then go over it and at least try to proofread it yourself. If I can't read your story, I'm not going to bother giving it a review.
5. There is, in fact, a word limit. No stories over 15k words will be accepted. Additionally, unless it's damn good reason, don't expect line-by-line commentary for anything more than the first 5-7k words—by that point, I pretty much already know what your problems are.

Whew! If it seems like I'm making you jump through hoops, then I apologize. My intention isn't to drive you all away with excessive bureaucracy; it's to make sure that I can spend as little time on administrative stuff as I can, while devoting most of my time here looking at your writing. That way, everyone's happy.

I think that's all. So—bring it, /fic/! I'll take whatever you throw at me. Launching review thread in three…

…Two…

…One!

Allons-y!

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Submission Form: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFZ5dFpxZjNUa1NGVktyckpsVEh0WlE6MQ#gid=0

Queue: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkUMuMIFL1l4dFZ5dFpxZjNUa1NGVktyckpsVEh0WlE#gid=0
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>> No. 104269
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Hey there, it's me again. I'm glad to see this thread up, so I wanted to ask you for another revision to my fic:

Title: Rarity's Bad Mane Day
Tags: Comedy/Slice of Life
Words: 7016
Link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D_RG4RxCBpoeuWKFcIvyXBHKnUhZykpha4s_UUvDnQg/edit
Summary: Sweetie Belle pulls a prank on Rarity, but a good laugh is not the only thing that she wants.

So uh... that's it. The blue letters are the improvements in the story. Basically, what I added/modified.
The "violent" Rarity issue was fixed. (hopefully)

I kindly await for your answer.
>> No. 104270
>>104269
And that would make three, possibly four.

Remember to say other people have been requested.
>> No. 104291
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>>104269
If you request a review from more than one reviewer, please let them each know that you have done so.
>> No. 104305
May I bother you for a second look at my story? I've taken a step back as you suggested, thought of a few things and then rewrote the first chapter while trying to keep your concrit in mind. I'd like to know if you think I've succeeded in improving the story or not.

Title: Wings of Tomorrow ~ Lament of the World (2.0)
Author Name: Keeper of Jericho
Tags: Adventure, Alternate Timeline, Steampunk
Link: http://www.fimfiction.net/story/20375/1/Wings-of-Tomorrow-~-Lament-of-the-World/1.-Adrift-in-time
Characters: Fluttershy, Mane Six, Celestia, others and some OCs.
Word Count: 5019 (chapter 1) and 52.302 total (11 chapters)
Synopsis: One day, Fluttershy wakes up only to find herself in a changed world. Ponyville and Equestria are not how she remembers them: airships cross the sky, steam-powered machinery drives the economy and the rule of Celestia is no more. In this strange alternate world, Fluttershy reunites with her dear friends and learns of the event that changed history itself. Worse, the timid Pegasus seems to have arrived just in time to witness the rapidly approaching climax of a civil war that has been raging for three hundred years.
>> No. 104306
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>>104305
I would like to humbly request that you read the sticky. I mentioned specifically that GDocs was the required format of submission; post the link here to a google doc containing your fic, and I'll replace it on the queue. Until then, consider yourself on hold.

My first nitpick! Huzzah!
>> No. 104310
You read it last time on fimfic perfectly fine. But fine, have it your way. I have no experience with this ungainly format, but there you go:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gor9R6Ti0dESaQzA7CK-hmV17-d0XflP8JY9bN6TXqs/edit

I'm not going to bother uploading all of the story since you'll only read the first chapter anyway. If you want more chapters you'll have to ask.
>> No. 104312
>>104310
Thank you very much! I'm sorry if it seems like I'm being anal, but it really makes things easier for the both of us. I'll get to your review either tonight or tomorrow.
-GV
>> No. 104314
>>104312

Thank you for wanting to read all these stories and giving authors like myself a hand (or hoof?). It's much appreciated.

Apologies if I came across as short-tempered, it was not the intention, I assure you. I was merely confused why it is now docs only when previously it was not. But if you prefer it this way, I can comply.
>> No. 104350
Title: Invasion of the Chubbies

Author: Myself

Tags: [Comedy] [Random] [Adventure]

Characters: Mane 6, Others

Word Count: 6,600

Synopsis: Equestria is turned upside down by the arrival of strange and extremely adorable travelers, ones that resemble the Elements of Harmony. With no idea of how they were transported, they must find a way home, and the Mane 6 are just the ponies to help. However, through their search, they'll uncover a plot that endangers not only the travelers, but everything both groups of ponies hold dear.

I've gone through the story and made corrections based on what you suggested. I've had Professor Hugbox go through this already, but I'd appreciate it if you went through it again.
>> No. 104351
>>104350
Whoops, forgot the link:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1krMGNTQHuubiRk-pdcBVLvzmaahy4hXksw5poA1pmrU/edit
>> No. 104359
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104359
>>104269
Welcome to the inaugural review of this thread! For the first post: a resubmission!

Comments on the GDoc, as always.

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I'm not going to do a full review of this, owing to its status as a resub (again, as per usual). However, I can honestly (and somewhat sadly) sat that I saw in this many of the mistakes that I saw in your first draft; in fact, I found myself wondering how much you actually revised, and how much you just copy-pasted over to fix. The SDT issues are still there along with the PoV problems and the occasional LUS (so many acronyms!). You still have major problems with scene transitions, and each character needs more work to feel IC enough to make me really care about what happens to them. Rarity's character development is—well—underdeveloped. I wanted to see more of that gradual change (from a reluctant to a gleeful sister), and instead I got choppy flashes of angry!Rarity and happy!Rarity.

The bottom line is: this story is still filled with enough holes to take down the intended purpose. By the time that they're hugging and crying, I should be like "WHY CAN'T I HOLD ALL THESE FEELS?" Instead, owing to a lackluster scene transitioning scheme (everything just felt like: X happens, Y happens…so yeah) along with quite a few "technical"/stylistic errors, my thoughts were more along the lines of "mreh."

My best advice? For your next draft, be ready to uproot the whole damn thing for edits if need be. You've got an idea of the structure (this works fine as a messy outline of sorts); now you need to develop the scenes themselves more. That's your most basic problem, and one which I believe solving will fix most of the other issues.

Welp, I think that's all. Nighty night, /fic/.

Best of luck!
Golden Vision
>> No. 104376
>>104359
Thanks for all the help. I really appreciate it.
There's nothing else to do but figure it out by my own. Thanks again!
>> No. 104546
>>104305
>>104350
Bad news, guys. My internet's been done for much of the afternoon, and so I haven't been able to get to either of your reviews. I'm sitting in a Starbucks typing this right now (a comfy location that I will nevertheless soon have to abscond from). So, my apologies, but expect your reviews tomorrow-ish.

-GV
>> No. 104554
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Hello there, GV. You might not recognize me because of the new nickname, but it's RaptorSenior here.

Anyway, here is the first part of a new fic I had an idea for but never really got around to until now. Sorry to hear about your Internet, by the way. I keep telling you that your ISP probably hates you, but you don't seem to listen.

Anyway, here are the stuffs you need:

[Title] Infinity: A Half-Life 2 Crossover
[Author] Xelor
[Tags] Sad, Dark, Crossover
[Characters] Free, Main 6, some of the CMC, Big Macintosh, Cheerilee (or however it's spelled), Luna

[Word Count] 1381
[Synopsis]

Life is great. Beautiful skies, lush greenery, an oppressive otherworldly government. It sure is a beautiful world.

Imprisonment and slavery would be a godsend. On the run from hordes of aliens in an enslaved world full of despair and sorrow, Free must save the pony population of the world while saving himself. The stakes keep rising, the opposition keeps growing, and Free has to face it all on his own, even when the odds are infinity to one.

[Links]
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1T3tPJ8rASe3li_zwttBhYmU3gHMNSo5UPwF2kIfOV_o/edit


Enjoy, GV!
>> No. 104662
>>104305
Hey there! Comments are on the GDocs, so let's get down to the meat of the (re)review, shall we?

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Hrm. You still have a lot of major problems with SDT, LUS, and so on, but I'm also beginning to note that you have quite a few issues with grammar as well. Incomplete or cluttered sentences are present all over the place. What's more is that you clearly need more work on keeping out of the passive voice—for example, "Fluttershy’s face fell, her kind expression being replaced by a scowl.."
That's passive, or at least close enough to sound weird to the reader.

Looking at this chapter as a whole, it's clear that it needs to be character- and setting-driven. Nothing's really happening here but Fluttershy being teleported, her meeting Helm, and some other world building. The problem is, your PoV is very inconsistent, and much of Flutter's action is extremely passive (while her dialogue is nonexistent). That does away with the character angle. The setting description is good in some areas (I think you could expand the "giant flying thing" bit, for example), but in places it goes on for so long that it just becomes Purple Prose. I don't need to know every detail of every brick on every other wall. You could definitely stand to develop more in terms of action and dialogue throughout; otherwise, it just becomes uninteresting.

That's really the biggest problem that I have (excepting that really weird "demon travel thingy" scene, which should definitely be cut). It just wasn't interesting. Nothing happened, and nothing really changed. I think you could develop Grey Helm MUCH more as a character, both through his own PoV and his interactions with FS (god, I love acronyms). The same goes for Twilight's meeting with FS—it wasn't built up to well enough. The shock value was somewhat lost.

In a way, a lot of the same issues that I saw last time are still here. Your characters and mechanics are actually less developed than last time (if that's possible), while the setting was focused on to an extreme (while ignoring the important objections of LUS and SDT). I wanted to see more of the world and its development than this random street. In short, I wanted to see your characters and what they did. I think the only real "character" moment was GH's initial words to FS; after that, nothing really happened aside from Twi's inner thoughts (which were kinda tell-y).

So, in short, keep working. You don't need to take things out so much as you actually need to put more in—but first make sure that it's both relevant and concise. Remove things you don't need and replace them with things that develop the story, your characters, and the setting. For characters, at least, fixing all the SDT issues should help greatly in that respect. I suggest that you go back and take another look at my initial review—most of the things there are still relevant with this draft.

Best of luck!
Golden Vision
>> No. 105083
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105083
Hello again. Got a shorter, complete story for you, if you have the time. (Submitted to web form as well.) The GDoc link is a frozen copy just for you. I may be tweaking the original (link to that in your copy) as I spot things on my own. MintyRest is currently in-progress with a different frozen copy. (If I find a simple typo, I might fix it everywhere, but word-level and up changes stay in the main doc.)

Title: Words Failed Her
Author: Nonsanity
Tags: [Adventure]
Characters: Twilight Sparkle, Spike
Word Count: 6800
Synopsis: In a world full of magic, words can carry viruses. When reading any correspondence or signpost could infect the unwary, and cases are already starting to turn up around Ponyville, Twilight Sparkle casts the one spell that can give her time: the Curse of Illiteracy. Now she has to figure out how to stop the epidemic... without being able to read.

GDoc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kV9Vz2YsalczG9izKBfqdJA1a92_cmK0MTMsI-mYplM/edit
>> No. 105085
Just when you thought it was safe...

Yo, G-to-the-Vizzle! I'm BAAAAAAA-aaaaaaack! After a few weeks of thinking, I've drawn up a draft of my new prologue. This story is pretty much nothing like the original. No more humans, yee-har. But I am going to repurpose one chapter, because it will still fit.

Title: Untitled as of yet: Prologue- Dance of Death
Author: Jake The Army Guy
Tags: Dark, Mystery
Synopsis: Tragedy strikes Ponyville when a body is discovered on the outskirts of the Everfree. As the townsponies grieve, an enigmatic stallion arrives at Ponyville Library, dispatched by the Princess herself. When more blood is spilled, Twilight and her friends, along with this strange pony, must work together to solve a crime that nopony wants to acknowledge. But sometimes, murder is only the beginning...

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PS9W39Y6e6zbVeXxAHJNrnpLV6hDfa4j39L4-pEpce0/edit
>> No. 105086
>>105085
Herp-a-derp.

Word count: 1420

Kinda short, but it's just the prologue.

Also, with this one, I wanted a more tense vibe, wanted you to feel the character's fear. Let me know if I accomplished this.
>> No. 105111
>>104350
Hi there! Welcome to your second review! Comments, as always, are on the GDoc.

Hrm. Looking over this, I can see that you've definitely cleaned it up quite a bit. Most (but not all!) SDT issues are gone, and you've added in quite a bit of body language. Your major problems, however, still lie in the realms of Plot, Characters, and LUS. OH GOD, the LUS. If you don't fix that, then I'm not even looking at a third submission.

It's still very unclear why the Chubbies are there, your attempted explanation is quite clumsy, Twilight is inconsistently characterized throughout (panicked vs. calm), and the Chubbies are far too similar (emotionally) to their Biggies. Give us something to distinguish between them, please.

I think that's most of it. You have quite a few issues in the comments, by the way—by no means did I cover every problem in there. I suggest you think carefully about each and every problem in there and how to fix it before resubmitting. In the meantime, best of luck, and happy writing!
-Golden Vision
>> No. 105116
>>105111
Thanks for the review, Golden. I'll be sure to throw every instance of LUS out and improve on what you suggested before another submission.
>> No. 105139
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105139
I've just finished the second part of the story, if you would be so kind as to add it to the post as well:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n5XKPdOd3F1eAPfz72v0O4rdUkfgxsA0W4vrJzamVyE/edit

Sorry for the bit of delay. This should bring the story to a little bit above 3000+ words, though I don't know the exact amount.
>> No. 105150
>>105139
Also, I sent this in to EQD with the response that it is a copy/paste crossover. I know what that means, however I can't help but think that they've made a mistake.

Please offer what you can on this subject. I have big changes planned for the storyline and I hate to know early on that it has grave, irreversible flaws.

Thanks.
>> No. 105294
Hi Golden Vision!
This is my first fanfiction and I would greatly appreciate your thoughts about it.

Title: As the River Flows Softly
Author: RainEyes
Tags: Sad, Tragedy
Characters: Trixie
Synopsys: Decisions, mistakes, friendships, hopes, ambitions. All part of the flow of life. Where is the end of hopelessness, when a pony is has lost everything she worked for and loved?
Length: ~2700

Link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1K43Vsfr7btaoraiFwLDl2-1HJjThxoPjp5aPko_DjKM/edit

If I may have a request, beside the story itself, if you could tell me whether the title and synopsys matches the story well, or should be changed in some way, I'd be extra thankful!
I'm looking forward to your review.
>> No. 105402
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Howdy GV!

Remember me? I'm the guy who forgot about showing and body language.

Ever since your review a few months ago, I took the time to go through my story with a fine-toothed comb and iron out a lot of the stuff you pointed at. A lot was rewritten, a lot more showing was done, and a lot more focus was put on making things more emotional.

My fic was published yesterday at FIMFiction…and today, it was featured on Equestria Daily. I'm shocked (in a good way) to see a story I put a lot of work into get featured on a site like EQ, and I think I owe a big debt of gratitude to your review.

You were the first person who reviewed the full first chapter, and you pointed out some serious issues that I had, quite bluntly. You highlighted exactly what was working and what needed to be changed, and for that, you helped to make my story a lot better.

So just wanted to pop in and say thank you again, you were invaluable to getting Smiling Flowers to the point where it is now. And once chapter 2 is ready (hopefully within the week or so), I will likely be approaching you once again for your thoughts. Thanks!!!
>> No. 105406
Title: Derpyball

Tags: Comedy, Normal

Characters: Mane Cast, Derpy, Gilda, Dinky

Description: Ponyville is getting ready to host a Dodgeball Tournament when Gilda shows up, challenging them against her own team. As they prepare themselves, Twilight and her friends learn a surprising secret about a certain crossed-eyed mailpony. Will Ponyville be able to beat Gilda and her team? Or will they taste rubbery defeat?

Link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uUCUuBE3YG3Cez-8_T4vyDHpbwTwoTV0R04SFe9eul4/edit

Words: 6770

Comments: This is actually a rewrite since I was attempting to do a few new things with narration, but the original wasn’t as good as it could have been.
>> No. 105430
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105430
>>104554
>>105139

My greatest apologies, Raptor, for taking so long to get to this. Blame Valve and the horrible, horrible thing that is TF2.

Now, as for your fic? My primary response:

Boom. Headshot

Comments on the GDoc; let's proceed with the review!

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Characters: 1/5

Let's get the easy stuff out of the way. I liked the characters that you did bother to focus on—Rarity and Twilight, for example. I feel like they got some small amount of characterization, and that was fine. You could develop that more, fine, but that can wait for later chapters.

My second-biggest problem was that there were so many side-characters who I could only label "NPCs". They're literally like the guys in HL or some other video game who show up, have one or more lines of dialogue (in or out of a cutscene), and then disappear forever. They exist more to develop the setting than to be real characters, and while that's fine for the original Half-Life 2, that should not be your concern when writing a fanfiction.

That was nothing, however, compared to my biggest problem: You didn't have a protagonist.

Oh, there was a named character, alright, who walked around and technically interacted with the populace (even if it was just them talking at him, and not with him). But there was nothing that even remotely defined a personality, motivations, or even something to empathize with. He had maybe one "direct action" (sighing, looking at something and thinking, having a thought) every few hundred words. In short, he wasn't a real character—he was a puppet for the sake of the PoV.

I think this is ultimately traceable (like most of the issues that I have elsewhere in this review) to the fact that you're trying to, basically, ponify HL2. Gordon Freeman doesn't talk—and HL2 is a FPS, anyway—so it's fine if he doesn't have a personality. It's not fine, and it's really quite lazy. Give me a character. Give me someone to care about—ESPECIALLY when you're using First Person PoV, or so help me I will dropkick you for its abuse—or I'm walking away and ignoring your fic entirely (as a reader, that is).

Plot: 1.5/5
I guess there was…kind of something to see here? The scenes were meh, but didn't feel underly developed. Some of the NPC interactions contributed to the story's flow, but ultimately ended up irrelevant. Nothing really happened—I'd say that you at least gave us a hint at a plot, with Rarity and all, but that was completely not yours—I do believe Valve came up with that character concept, so congratulations for…plagiarizing a video game, I guess? So, yeah—no. Give us something original, and something new. I don't care if it's completely fresh later; if you start this off with a ponified intro to HL2, then you'll turn off a lot of people who'd otherwise be potential readers.

Setting: 2.5/5
You set up the scenes okay, but there was a large problem with expressing body language throughout. Don't give us five lines of dialogue without anything in between—it's naked text, and is unpleasing to the narrative eye. You also had a few instances of SDT—fix those, especially insofar as it relates to how Free perceives things.

Mechanics: 3/5
Quite a few typos and cluttered/awkward/repetitious sentences, but nothing too notable to repeat here that hasn't already been said in the GDoc.

Originality: 1/5
Literally the only things I saw in here that didn't belong to the original HL2 were the train argument scene, and the Sweetie Belle thing. You'd damn well better reboot this entire thing and give us something of your own mind before I set Gabe Newell and his team of paralegals on your ass.

Total: 9/25

Final Thoughts:

I think that the biggest thing dragging down this piece of writing was that, ultimately, it wasn't your work. Taken on its own, this is a fine piece of writing that actually wasn't too shabby (excepting the problems with the protagonist). Taken in context of its source material, however, there was almost nothing in here of your own creation. My advice? Trash the train scene, the guards/"Welcome to the City" scene, and the Rarity!spy angle entirely. Then come up with something that isn't merely, as I've said before, a ponified HL2. It'll be a lot of work, but should you choose to do it, it'll be infinitely better than what you have now.

Ready for EqD?: Obviously not
Rewrite Recommended?: Portal Gun this thing to the Moon and start over.

Sorry if this seemed harsh, but there was really nothing else I could say, especially since it appears that a pre-reader agrees with me.

And as a final note, if you keep this as is—plagiarism and all—you're really just taking advantage of those such as myself who've heard of HL as a setting, but have never played the game. I'll think you're brilliant and wonderfully original, while instead this is all Valve's work, behind the scenes, adapted for a more Equestrian format. So fix this up and give us your work, not what you have copied down here.

Best of luck,
Golden Vision
>> No. 105431
>>105402
Hey Brian! I was just on EqD, and I saw your story there! I just wanna say: wow, man. That is awesome, and you should feel great for accomplishing this. I can't wait to see what your next installment brings! And don't think for a second that I won't be there to tear it apart when necessary

-GV
>> No. 105432
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>>105431

>"And don't think for a second that I won't be there to tear it apart when necessary"

I wouldn't want it any other way.
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Hey there, Golden.

I saw my story is up next in your queue. If you follow the link I gave you there's a link at the top to the current frozen version with more grammar fixes. The link you have was a copy I froze at the time of asking you for a review.

I'm not making any changes to the current version right now, so that's safe to review. :)

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1O1dUJ-OARaxDobWuiCJJy-0IzR_Cja2keOuAMDBRHEA/edit
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>>105430
Plagiarizing ain't my style. Nor should it ever be. Mess. A complete mess. That's all I can say here.

Thanks for you review, Golden...

And for successfully ripping this idea to complete shreds. =)

Oh, don't take it in a bad way. I expected as much from you. And that compliment at the end was... unexpected. I have already announced to the readers of it that I'm changing the storyline, allowing it to stand more on its own, you know?

This review just wanted me to keep the idea of the train even more. In fact, I'm keeping it, but I'll keep the characters along for a bit. Makes them more important, I assume.

I actually had the idea when someone commented this, and I quote: "This is a good adaptation."

ADAPTATION. Can you believe it? Rhetorical question if you avoid spoiler and/or are too tired to read them.

So I basically said: "Nope. Uh-uh. I'm changing it. CHANGING IT!"

Not to his face (Well, his notifications), but you get the point.

I'll improve upon what you asked, but I won't be bringing it back. I'm going to keep it in house.

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Keep an eye out in the next coming days/weeks. I have something... intriguing for you.

Heh. Heheh. Heheheheh.
>> No. 105465
Hello, I actually did submit this story to Equestria Daily and was rejected based on several issues. Here is what the reviewer wrote:

"Dear author,

I regret to inform you that I cannot recommend your work for posting on Equestria Daily at this time. See below for details.


SPECIFIC ISSUES-

chronically stacked descriptors
dialogue tagging
SO MUCH TELL (actions scenes specifically)
narration is stilted, and often unclear
punctuation errors
spell out numbers
don’t begin narrative sentences with conjunctions
exposition is extremely lacking
extraneous spaces

Fairly interesting concept, but you need a lot of work on the execution. Take this over to ponychan and get some reviews, would be my suggestion. This is strike one of three. Best of luck on your future work."

If you could help better explain and cite examples of what I should be doing to improve the story that would be great, thank you, here is the 1st chapter:

1) Normal, Adventure, Dark
2) Beware the Mare Do Well!
3) Ponyville is under siege by a mad bomber and evidence points to a long forgotten super hero. When Batmare closes in, will she fall into a deadly trap?
4)https://docs.google.com/document/d/15w2vwj7t8RHQO1biHCgEJQmyvqejHaPcQShx1cbxqjk/edit?pli=1
5) Sweetie Belle, Apple Bloom, Scootaloo, Pinkie Pie, Mysterious Mare Do Well
words: 6008
>> No. 105471
>>105465
You must inform your reviewer(s) if you're requested an additional review in another thread ( >>105467 ). This is in the sticky which, if you have not read yet, you should. It will make everyone's life much easier.
>> No. 105475
>>105471
My bad. Yeah I asked someone else to review this too.
>> No. 105492
>>105440
Golden Vision,
I started my submission to EQD for this story (Words Failed Her) today thinking it could take days before anyone over there gets to it, and since I was next in your queue, I'd get your feedback first.

Best laid plans of mice, and all that... The pre-readers are actually a rather speedy bunch! I don't know if there will be time to make any changes prior to it going live (if it's going to) so I wanted to leave it up to you if you want to continue as planned and review my story.

I'd love to hear what you have to say, either way, and will endeavor to make any such changes you might suggest if there's time. Again, I leave it up to you. :)

Word on.
>> No. 105569
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>>105083
>>105440
Hey there, Nonsanity! I must say, it was quite enjoyable to chat with you over the GDoc earlier. And that's a good thing, because your fic was quite enjoyable to read as well! So let's get on with the full review, shall we?

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Characters: 5/5
You did a great job here; not much to say. Twilight felt spot-on, and each of the other ponies felt perfectly fine while—well—zombified. G'job.

Plot: 4/5
I think that, overall, this was pretty good. It felt like you went a bit too quickly, however, between the original Pinkie problem, and Twilight casting the illiteracy spell, as well as the casting and figuring out what the figure was. Perhaps you could have her see something magical or strange about the words before forcing magic into them for the first time—that way, it seems like there's a more gradual and realistic pacing of the discoveries.

Setting: 3/5
Tsk, tsk. This was your main issue. Try to remember not to overuse pronouns—strictly speaking, you really should restate the subject's name whenever there's a new actor/speaker. There were also some little bits of LUS/SDT, but nothing too major. Oh! And don't forget body language. A naked bit of dialogue is a terrible thing.

Mechanics: 4/5
Some cluttered sentences or questionable word choice.

Originality: 5/5
Certainly very interesting, and definitely a unique idea. At first, upon scrolling down and seeing that there was an epilogue, I was skeptical as to how you'd pull this off. But now that I've finished it, I can definitely say that this was better off as a 2.5-parter. An interesting idea, and very well executed.

Total: 21/25[/u]

Final Thoughts:

Ack! So close! Going over the [b]Setting
issues should be your main concern. Once you do that, this fic'll definitely be EqD worthy. I can't really think of anything else to say—this was both enjoyable to read, and interesting to reflect upon. For all we know, this could even be the hook to a sort of epic centered around Star Swirl's legacy and Twilight's magic—we don't know. There's potential here for a whole character centered around Star Swirl and his works, and that's, again, a very interesting concept to develop. Well done, and I look forward to seeing this on EqD!

Ready for EqD?: ALMOST
Rewrite Recommended?: Lolnope

Best of luck!
Golden Vision
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>>105085
Hullo, Jake, and welcome to Review Mark II (or at least, the first review of the second edition of your fic). Being that you were so recently crushed by that prereader, I wish I could have more positive things to tell you, but…tsk, tsk. Let's dive right in, shall we?

Comments on the GDoc as always.

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Characters: 2/5
Okay, I get that Berry Punch is freaked out. I get that. My problems are, in order of increasing severity, that she didn't act consistently, that she reacted to something that wasn't actually there, and that she had very little actual characterization.

I remember in the last edition of this fic that Berry actually had a scene in which she said farewell to the bartender, establishing her as a character and setting the scene for the chapter. That was good; I liked that. But here, you're throwing us in suddenly, without any warning, and what's more, you're issuing out on nearly every opportunity to expand Berry as a character. What she should be is an empathetic character, someone we can flee with, our hearts pounding with hers. What she actually is,, however, is a scared, running meatbag who exists to be killed to set up The Plot, as so often happens in homicide detective shows. That's a problem. We need a character, not a body bag.

Plot: 2.5/5
This was only marginally better. The pacing was very, very off—you went far too quickly in some cases (starting off the chapter, for example), and far too slowly in others (Berry getting that "sinking feeling" without any prompting). That latter example also showcased a lack of real setup for that emotion, and overall, much of this chapter felt very forced. I also found it strange when, after imagining a manticore or something charging after her for four pages, I suddenly hear a pony trotting up, and—boom! Berry gets stabbed rather than mauled. Maybe you intentionally wanted that to be a confusing effect, but I found it quite, quite disorienting.

Setting: 3/5
Mreh. You overdescribed your setting, if anything. There was actually a fair amount of purple prose, if you can believe it—"a dancing ballet of shadows", for example. You also need to stop Telling us things (which I've noted in comments) and stop overusing pronouns, even when there's only one subject. Rereading "she" over and over again gets a little old, after all.

Mechanics: 3/5
I'd give you a 4/5, but you had some really awful sentences that made entire paragraphs almost unreadable. I wanted to slap them, they were so bad (or at least take a chainsaw to them).

Originality: 3/5
I'm not giving you the same score as last time because, while I still know the general premise of this fic, I'm not sure at all that you've done nearly enough to set things up this time around. I suggest you give this chapter another try.

Total: 13.5/25

Final Thoughts:

So, it wasn't horrible—that much was clear. But it was also clear that this was the product of a writer coming out of a project that he was unsure whether to discard fully, or maintain. And I think that, on the whole, you actually discarded too much. You can keep much of the previous Berry scene to set up the story; most of what the prereader disliked was the HiE angle. But that's just my opinion. So give it another try, and we'll see what you've got then.

Ready for EqD?: No
Rewrite Recommended?: Most likely.

Best of luck,
Golden Vision
>> No. 105580
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Hey Golden! (or do you prefer Vision?) I got some work for ya. I was wondering if you could put a constructive eye to this.

Title: Ultimatum
Tags: [Adventure][Dark]
Synopsis: What is the price one is willing to pay to regain what they hold dear? The ponies of Equestria will have to question themselves as they’re thrust into the largest event of history. They’ll have to do the unspeakable, and possibly lose their peace of mind, if only to keep the lives they cherish so dearly the same. There shall be no mercy.

Word Count: 4862 (Total)
Links:
Prologue (1): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UPrefi4cRq2DOZsJBrbUa-dQOi7H4bU3Le1ZgjS3DVY/edit
Prologue (2): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1l-NOqkONehSQ4oXmX80iIKnQeQ3BfdR98ic2IEBWxrw/edit

I already had this reviewed by Minjask. The response I received was, surprisingly, praise-filled. I can't wait to see what numbers I get from you.
>> No. 105581
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>>105580
*Cough* posted on my review thread *cough* Need to make Golden aware *Wheeze
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>>105581
Whoopsie! Completely forgot about you for a sec there, sorry bout that! (and I just posted to yours today, too)

I'm also currently in Khakispony's queue as well.That's everyone, promise.
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>>105569
I do love being there to chat and discuss with the reviewer. That's one of the best things about Google Docs. (The worst thing is you can't edit it from an iPad.)

Pronoun usage... As it often happens, a writer can get conflicting information, particularly when it comes to aspects of writing style. When someone that demonstrates a very high degree of competency (nudge, nudge, GV) and gives good reason, all conflicting points of view can be overridden. Thanks for the lesson. :)

Hopefully the mechanics have been mostly cleared up. To that end, I wanted to paste the new opening paragraphs here and get your reaction:


Piles of newly arrived books surrounded Twilight Sparkle, covering the library's floor in uneven stacks. She was curled up in a circle of open volumes now riddled with bookmarks, a page turning every few minutes with a violet glow of unicorn magic.

She loved how the library's tree always stayed comfortably cool even on a particularly hot summer day such as this. Staying inside and reading a good book—or maybe twenty—was the perfect way to pass the hottest mid-afternoon hours, and these new books had completely captivated her.


I think all the rest of the changes I made at your suggestion have really improved the story. Thanks! :)

As for a hook with Star Swirl... I have been finding myself tempted to write more about him ever since I came up with the "plums" bit. (That was the result of scanning many web pages for strange and archaic laws and finding one that banned the selling of vegetables on Sunday—except carrots.)
>> No. 105586
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I would first off like to mention that there is a fic submitted to my queue that has not been posted to this thread. The title is The Rise of Chancellor Puddinghead, by DoctorWhooves42. Please note that until you post it on this thread as well as the queue, I will not be able to get to your fic, and it will stay on hold.

>>105581
>>105582
Thanks for the heads-up, guys. And no worries, Turtle—we all get caught up and forget things sometimes.

>>105585
I actually do rather like this intro. It sets up the character and the setting quite likely. I would have one small comment/request, though, and that would be to start with a Twilight-specific action, rather than the passive existence of the books. For example, "Twilight sighed happily as she turned a page." I just came up with that randomly, but there's my general thoughts.

I'm also flattered that you value my opinions so highly!
>pic related

Welp, I'm off for sleepingtimes. Laters, /fic/!
-GV
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Hello there, Golden. In reprimand for my previous mishap, here's some smooth jazz. [INSERT SMOOTH JAZZ HERE]

Ah! Wasn't that delightful?

Anyway, here's part I of my latest creation, Dystopia.

[Title] Dystopia
[Author] RaptorSenior/Xelor (Same person, as you might recall)

[Tags] Dark, Alternate Universe, Adventure
[Characters] Articulate 'Ari' Prose, Zero-point Energy, Ez (Full Name Undecided)

[Word Count] 3135

[Synopsis]
The throne of the alicorn Ao sits a thousand years empty, unicorns have disappeared, and pegasi enslave the remaining earth ponies. An author strikes too close to the dark secret of her home city. Banished, she seeks those who will stand with her against the corruption that stole the land.
(Thank you Eustatian with your help on the synop!)

[Linky] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-XKV9_WoX8OX5mYUkYXdMv1ZdjGFBUoJI8h1uDUulk4/edit

>Pic because yes. Actual cover not yet found
>> No. 105597
Hello, this is the writer of one of your fics in your queue, the story titled "Beware the Mare Do Well!"

There's been an issue with the google docs link I sent you, so I had to re-upload it. Here is the new link:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WFOIQJ6x-s1zi47DK1aka4kmTBPRGLqNTZx8arGSu0o/edit

If I need to go through the submission process again please do say so, I am willing to wait if you so desire. Thank you.
>> No. 105599
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>>105586
>sage
I actually started that first sentence with "Twilight Sparkle" but it made it passive voice. :D How's this as a first line (to go before the rest):

>Twilight Sparkle's eyes flashed back and forth across the page, eagerly devouring the words.

Not a bad idea to point out her extreme competency when it comes to reading right up front, eh? :)
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>>105599
>NOT sage

I"M ON EQUESTRIA DAILY!!! WOOOOO!

Thanks, man! We got the changes in JUST under the wire! :D
>> No. 105604
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>> No. 105617
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>>105601
Nice job, I wonder when you'll get a star rating
>> No. 105619
>>104267
Title-The Rise of Chancellor Puddinghead
Tags-Comedy, Normal
Characters- TS, PP, AJ, OC's
Link:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yYQmnEKVQRPG2UMoZwGECJ3KJq8kp-HYrK7Pk0ls5Vw/edit
Synopsis:Smart Cookie is a simple pony, from a family of bakers. Her love of politics draws her into working for a campaign for the title of Chancellor of the Earth ponies. However, when she volunteers to find a running mate, she meets a strange pony with a bowl of pudding for a hat! This is the story of Puddinghead's rise to the top, through the eyes of her secretary....and best friend.
Word Count:6,353

I hope I'm doing this right, I'm trying to get some help on this before I resubmit to EQD and I'd love feedback.
>> No. 105637
>>105579
Yeowch. Hey, no worries, bro. When we chat, I'm your friend. When you review my stories, I'm your victim. :)

But I totally agree. For some reason, I felt the need to extend the scene, that it wasn't long enough to draw in the reader. Plus I wanted to keep the killers identity a secret.

But I totally see your point. The whole "evil storm" thing just sounded cool in my head. Upon further thinking, it doesn't mesh well with the overall plot. Consider it gone.

Okay, back to the drawing board! I'll work on it and (hopefully) have a revised draft for you this weekend. Thanks again!!
>> No. 105653
>>105617
>quiet, awestruck sage

.....the frickin' feature box.......
>> No. 105687
Title: Stand By Me
Tag: Normal
Word Count: ~8000
Summary: Six friends, six lives. Each go on to pursue their dreams and live their lives, but will their friendship withstand the test of time?
Link: http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/11/story-stand-by-me.html

The EqD link takes you to the first two chapters, both of which I'd like you to review (and don't worry, they're on GDocs.)

Story hasn't been worked on for a bit, and I'd like to hear what you have to say about it.
>> No. 105743
G , my friend! I've made my edits(kinda) and I'm ready for another go!


Title: Untitled as of yet: Prologue- Dance of Death
Author: Jake The Army Guy
Tags: Dark, Mystery
Synopsis: Tragedy strikes Ponyville when a body is discovered on the outskirts of the Everfree. As the townsponies grieve, an enigmatic stallion arrives at Ponyville Library, dispatched by the Princess herself. When more blood is spilled, Twilight and her friends, along with this strange pony, must work together to solve a crime that nopony wants to acknowledge. But sometimes, murder is only the beginning...

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PS9W39Y6e6zbVeXxAHJNrnpLV6hDfa4j39L4-pEpce0/edit

To be honest, the edits will be done today, but I wanted to get myself a spot in the queue. I think you'll be very pleased with my rewrite.
>> No. 105746
>>105653
There's a club. We meet Wednesdays for brunch to talk about how great it is being us.

Also, GV, expect my rewrite very soon™
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Flying High, Falling Hard
soundslikeponies
[Romance] [Drama]
Characters: Rainbow Dash, Twilight Sparkle, Spitfire
Chapter 1, 3,500; Chapter 2, 3,140; Chapter 3, 4,047 (again just extending out all three in the hopes that you find yourself with free time to do them)

Dash crashes into the Library unannounced again. Twilight, fed up with this happening so often, sticks her nose into Dash's training and winds up helping her train for the upcoming Best Young Flier Competition.

Links:
Chapter 1: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Od3VVS4W3MlJxczTjaQJseEkHy-hHvtYwtg_yF4_iZE/edit
Chapter 2: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1psaNFAoH9MlmoL6VWqeMT_Rz-jqZbGsRNERnctECX4E/edit
Chapter 3: https://docs.google.com/document/d/12QPy75dB_F6kZrL0TzNlIv3hspyVRyzPeuYJ9Ms8s04/edit

Well, with this version I don't think I'll have to go for a fifth rewrite (Ha! screw doing another one of those!) since I'm quite happy with how the new hook ties in with the rest of the story, fixing the continuity problems it had.

My action scenes are bad. Any help on that front would be great (especially since the first chapter starts with one). Comments from my pre-reader that were left unresolved were left unresolved for a reason, so input on some of those would be nice.
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>>105294
THE QUEUE IS NOW CLOSED.

I apologize for letting everything stack up so badly. I would like to ask, though, that no more fics be submitted until I clear the queue as it now stands. Anything submitted will be deleted from the queue, no questions asked.

Now, let's get to the review, shall we? Comments on the GDoc, of course.

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I'd like to take the opportunity to introduce something new that I've been thinking of doing for the past while: Title and Synopsis reviews. So, let's get right down to it.

Title: As the River Flows Softly
After reading this fic, I'm guessing that the only way to relate this title to the fic in question would be some pretty heavy symbolism. Unfortunately in your case, while it's technically appropriate, you wrap up all of the symbolism in one chapter, and damn is there a lot of it. Unless you're planning on drawing a parallel between Trixie's own life and travels and a river, I wouldn't recommend this title.

Synopsis
>Decisions, mistakes, friendships, hopes, ambitions.
Not a complete sentence, so we're not off to a good start. I'd suggest trimming this down and combining it with the next sentence, so as to get:

>Friendships, hopes, and ambitions are all part of the flow of life.

You then go into asking a question:
>Where is the end of hopelessness, when a pony is has lost everything she worked for and loved?

I'd probably change this to:
>Yet, where is the end of hopelessness, when a pony has lost everything she's worked for and loved?

I'd also suggest adding in a third line to clearly set up the plot of the fic. You've got the background here, but I'd also like to see something that points out where the story will be going.

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Characters: 1/5
Here's my biggest complaint about your story:

This wasn't Trixie that I was reading about.

Oh, she had Trixie's memories, alright. But at no point did I feel like I was reading about the same character who had fibbed to the audience for applause, and had an innate need to rebel against other ponies' disapproval. Your "Trixie" had no real sense of character—she was just there to moan about her misery. There was no development of her character or personality, or of her own motivations.

She just whined, and whined, and whined some more.

I wanted some other characters. I wanted to know why Trixie was like this. I didn't want the entire thing to be, well…a muddled flashback on why she was so unhappy.

Plot: 1/5
Maybe I'm just in a negative mood today, but here's my second-biggest complaint about your story:

There wasn't a plot.

As I said before, the whole thing was just her moaning about her troubles, along with some flashbacks about her past. Not only was the whole "flashback/reflection" thing quite unclear (in terms of what was actually happening when), but much of the thing felt really quite pointless. I mentioned the TVTropes article "Contemplating Our Navels" in the comments, and for much of this fic, that was all I could see. You fic consisted of three things: random plot devices, ingesting, and irrelevant philosophical meandering. On the subject of the first objection, you introduced a lot of concepts that had no purpose but to make us feel bad for Trixie. I think there was something in there about her getting teased at school. I'm not sure.

It was far too vague and random to really mean anything to me.

Setting: 4/5
Not too bad. Just a few issues here and there. Note that I'm putting much of the problems with narrative flow with Plot, though I technically should be putting them here. You avoided most problems with SDT and LUS and stuff, though, so I'm giving this to you almost as a present.

Mechanics: 2/5
Far too many issues, such as cluttered sentences, subject/verb confusion, bad word choice, and just plain weird syntax all over the place. There should not be a need for as many grammar-related comments as I made on your doc.

Originality: 1/5
I've seen this concept done a thousand times before. Trixie got chased out of Ponyville, and now her life sucks. It's done almost as often as the "Naruto gets chased out of Konoha" plot idea in that fandom. And what's more is that there isn't anything unique about this: it's literally just an angstfic. I'd like something actually substantial—heck, something with a story—and I'm not getting it.

Total: 9/25

Final Thoughts:

I really don't have much more to say. I'm sorry to say this, but I really felt like much of this fic was pointless. I suggest you start over and write something with a definite narrative, and with less angsting and philosophizing.

Ready for EqD?: No
Rewrite Recommended?: Scrap it.

Best of luck,
Golden Vision
>> No. 106098
>>106019

First of all, thank you for your insightful review!

Characters: 1/5

I guess I really just forced it upon her character. Perhaps interactions and dialogues could have helped making it more believable.

Plot: 1/5

"irrelevant philosophical meandering" - I’m somewhat disheartened at this, and my reason is what you mentioned about the title: "Unless you're planning on drawing a parallel between Trixie's own life and travels and a river(…)". The philosophical parallel was supposed to be the main part of the whole story. It’s a shame the flawed execution has spoilt this, and so it didn’t get quite through.

Mechanics: 2/5

At one point you asked if English was my native language and well, no, it’s not. Note that I don’t use this as an excuse. In fact, I greatly appreciate it that you have pointed out all those mistakes and awkward structures, expressions that I've been blind to.


In conclusion, you have pointed out all my fears I harboured about this story, which is good! The lack of originality, the over-stacking of whining without giving much justification to it, these are all valid points that I’ve been concerned about. Unfortunately, I could only do so much without feedback, so I'll take them into consideration to learn from them.

I appreciate your time you spared to review my story.

Best wishes,
RainEyes
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>>105406
'Ello there! It was a pleasant surprise to catch you on the GDoc just before finishing up. Reviews are better when they're interactive, in my opinion.

Oh, and: THE QUEUE IS STILL CLOSED.

Moving right along!

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You told me that you didn't want to change much, due to the fic being already up on fimfiction. While I personally would disagree that you can't change anything, I'll just go with it. As such, I won't be doing a full review of Character, Plot, or Originality. Scores would have been about equal across the board, though, so I'll just scale the total a bit.

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Title: Derpyball
I like the title, but I have two main points of contention with it. The first is that most internet-goers will instantly associated this word with "Calvinball," the nonsensical game played in Calvin & Hobbes. If this is what you're going for, then good work on the reference. If not, then be warned that some people may misinterpret your title.

Secondly, the story seems to focus on Derpy. You had an issue with PoV throughout, but my first recommendation would be either to make Derpy the clear, undoubted protagonist, or else have it be someone constant (like Twilight), but with a kind of academic interest or other relationship with Derpy to clarify the connection to the title.

Summary
>Ponyville is getting ready to host a Dodgeball Tournament
Your first chapter is setting this up. You shouldn't put assumptions in your summary when that thing hasn't happened yet.

>when Gilda shows up, challenging them against her own team.
I'm nearly 4k words in, and not even a hint of Gilda. This summary seems to be promising something that your first chapter can't deliver (unless she shows up right at the end…but then again, this "Gilda' angle seems to be prominent enough in your synopsis to deserve a greater focus early on).

>As they prepare themselves, Twilight and her friends learn a surprising secret about a certain crossed-eyed mailpony.
Again, is this focus on Twilight and the Mane Six, or on Derpy? I'm just wondering.

>Will Ponyville be able to beat Gilda and her team? Or will they taste rubbery defeat?
An interesting ending to your hook, but it lacks something that adds substance to the idea of "failure".

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Characters: 4/5


Plot: 2/5


Setting: 2/5
This was quite, quite bad in places. There were a lot of problems that I noticed when you introduced a scene, both with bringing in new characters and with setting up the environment. I couldn't count the number of times you had a bad case of LUS or SDT. I didn't even come close to pointing out every instance where you used those, so go through with a fine-toothed comb and take it all out. There was also a large absence of body language, which I necessarily objected to.

Mechanics: 2.5/5
There was far too much use of speaking verbs, and far too much variation in what you did have. I noted a bunch of awkward sentences, subject/actor confusion, and so on. You also used far too many of what I like to call "thesaurus" words—pick a simpler word that does the same job, but doesn't look quite as inaccessible. "Tumult" and "cacophony" were too examples.

Originality: 2/5

Total: 12.5/25

Final Thoughts

You didn't want to make any overarching changes, so there isn't much to say here. Fix those mechanical issue up, and you'd probably be bumped up to 16/17 range—not great, but readable.

Best of luck in your future projects,
Golden Vision
>> No. 106148
>>106131
Thanks for you opinion and your help. I'll be working on the mechanics and getting rid of the LUS. About the POV thing, I wanted to experiment on how it would feel if I did something like this. I really just wanted to try a few new things and see how they work. Most of the time I stick to one POV.

Thanks again.
>> No. 106151
>>106131

I'm going to take your ideas about setting and stuff and plan it better. I'm also going to change it so that it's singular POV's instead. The experiment really didn't work out and I'm going to just go back to my old way. I'll resubmit it to you when I'm done reworking on the entire chapter. Thanks again.
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Hello Golden Vision. Good to see that your thread is up and running. I'd like to submit a fanfic of a different kind than I submitted before. It's more of a darker tale than before.

Title: The Herald of Fire
Author: InsertCleverNameHere
Tags: [Grimdark][Adventure]
Characters: OC's, Mane 6, Princess Celestia
Word Count: (Prologue and Pt 1)5530
Synopsis: Four heralds, each darker and eviler than the last, roam across Equestria searching for the one pony who could stop them. But one of them has doubts. Is what they are fighting for really worth it? Is it worth countless lives being lost? A trip to a familiar small town will test what she truly believes in. The resulting adventure will be one no pony will ever forget.

Pic is art of what the four heralds should look like. I know that this story is a little darker than the stories you usually write, and I'd completely understand it if you decided against reviewing it, but I'd like you to take a look if you don't mind. Thanks, even if you decide against it.
>> No. 106169
>>106168
Darn, forgot links.

Prologue:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AlggpvZ4qu03DzR1NWMzgMCZxnwP55BuQSuk_L9FcJs/edit

Ch1:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lOY_lShLUVpekqHwVLOU-N6wIHNsV8HBEqkQM-g8uR8/edit
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>>106168
>>106186
Hello there. Much as I hate to do this, guys, it seems you both neglected to read the thread.

>Clears throat.

THE QUEUE IS STILL CLOSED.

As such, your fics have been removed. I suggest you submit them elsewhere.

>Pic related
>> No. 106203
>>106194
Oh, alright then. Sorry for disturbing you GV. Probably should read the thread more closely from now on.
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>Ahem.

THE QUEUE IS STILL CLOSED

'Ello there! Wow; there were a lot of comments to be made—it took me a full two days to beth through your fic! I actually couldn't finish commenting on the whole thing (GDocs was actually freezing my entire computer with the lag from the comments stream), but I finished reading nonetheless. So, onward!

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Title: Beware the Mare-Do-Well
This is certainly an interesting title. It sets up the plot of what you're doing, makes a nice in-universe reference, and definitely hooks the reader's interest. My main problem is that this focus on MDW is making the "Batmare" a bit weird; we don't have much to set her up as a character.

Synopsis:
>Ponyville is under siege by a mad bomber
I suppose this is good. However, it's not as good when we consider that we don't really have a character for this mad bomber by Chapter One (contrast this with other superhero media, in which there's a clear villain right away, rather than an anonymous one). I'd suggest adding in some kind of introductory transition to lead into this, especially considering a big part of your world is that a.) It's 15 years into the future, b.) Scoots is now Batmare, and c.) Ponyville is now crime-ridden (but why?).

>and evidence points to a long forgotten super hero.
This is good. It's interesting, with a bit of a twist.

>When Batmare closes in, will she fall into a deadly trap?
This is the part that I didn't really like. There's no indication that when you're talking about Batmare, you're talking about the CMCs. You just throw her in there randomly, without much introduction or transitioning. Set her up as a character; make it clear who she is and what her mission is. The "deadly trap" bit doesn't really connect to the suggested plot, either. Knowing Scoots, the objective would be to clear MDW's name or something, not worry about traps. Keep the synopsis clear, concise, and above all, a good background to bring in your readers.

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Characters: 2/5
Your characters were IC throughout; however, you lost a lot of points with me for a.) Completely transforming background foals into, basically, OCs (Snips and Twist and kinda Fluttershy), and b.) Not giving us any indication of why the CMCs created Batmare. Superhero origin stories are really something you need to set up—it's no surprise Spiderman starts with the spider, and Batman starts with his dead parents (something I noted in the comments). As it is now, it looks like they're just doing it for the lull, which is definitely not something you should be aiming for.

Plot: 3/5
I didn't take points off for technique here so much as for style (which, I will admit, is a bit of a tricky subject). At the beginning, for example, I think you could have spent a lot more time developing Scoots/CMCs as a kid, and her admiration for MDW. I think you could (should) have split that whole opening off into a prologue, and then either putting in the thing that would ultimately lead to the CMCs creating Batmare at the end of the prologue, as a kind of "what happened after" epilogue, or as a short reference near the beginning of Chapter 1. For the "bad guys" scene, also, I feel like it would be more powerful of a narrative if you went from the muggers being taken out by Batmare (we don't know who she is; muggers' PoV entirely) and then to Batmare's PoV, perhaps after meeting up with FS/Snips/Sweetie. That way, we're introduced to the idea of Batmare first, which we can then connect to a more familiar character.

Just a minor thing (or maybe not so minor), but MDW is an established character in Equestria. We know—they know—that she's really the Mane Six. So the problem that you have with the "Whodunnit—MDW?" seems all too simple. Something that I'd suggest would be to AU this, and switch the whole thing to OC ponies; that way, you can set up MDW as a kind of "Golden Age" superhero, while setting up the Scootaloo equivalent (or you can keep the names and backstories of the CMCs; my main issue is really the MDW/canon identities) as a later Batmare.

Setting: 2/5
You saved yourself from total failure here by introducing and describing your scenes; otherwise, this would have been a disaster. SDT and LUS abounded—I could barely go two paragraphs without seeing "She was worried" or "the orange pegasus…" Not good. There was SHITTON of "blank space" that desperately needed body language, too. In your action scenes, most specifically the bomb explosion toward the end, you need to make clearer and expand upon what's actually going on; I felt as though that bomb went off way to quickly for me to comprehend it (and it doesn't help that the way you wrote that scene made me think that we were in HQ or something, as you really didn't introduce the Bomber angle at all, as it related directly to that setting).

So…yeah.

Mechanics: 4/5
Fairly good. Just watch out for those typos and writing out numerals.

Originality: 3/5
This was interesting in that it was actually somewhat enjoyable. I liked the dialogue, a bit of the action, and the world in general. The problem was that there was so much more that you could be doing. With this current edition, you'll do well on fimfiction, I'm sure. But that doesn't really say much else. If you want to make the perfect MDW/Batmare fanfic, then I suggest correcting everything I said on the topic of Mechanics/Setting above, and seriously considering what I wrote for Plot and Characters.

Total: 14/25

Final Thoughts:

I know that this can be good. In fact, if you're devoted enough, I'm sure enough. The question becomes whether or not you are devoted enough. Once you've revised this (FULLY—no SDT or LUS left, for example), feel free to resubmit it—I'll be ready for it.

Ready for EqD?: No
Rewrite Suggested?: Expand, don't rewrite.

Best of luck,
Golden Vision
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Well, you're moving at a rather moderate pace, aren't you?

Heh.

Anyway, I submitted Dystopia to EQD a while ago, and received an email stating this:

stacked descriptors (very few occurrences)

Hyphen is not an Em dash, and Em dashes don’t have spaces following or preceding them.

Overly dramatic mystery right off the bat.

Dialogue tagging leaves something to be desired. Little emotional impact is conveyed through the dialogue alone, as it’s rather direct and usually truncated.

>A little earth filly // This is a bit of an issue. Unicorn and pegasus are easy, but earth pony generally requires the addition of ‘pony’. Saying the ‘earth mare’ can create a variety of comprehension problems in varied situation. I strongly suggest you go with what the fandom knows, and use ‘earth pony’ as the proper primary identifier.

Spacing Misses-
>“ You shouldn’t
>Ari said,“Hey Magenta.”
>Magenta continued,“Well,

There’s very little grammatically wrong with this piece—certainly nothing systemic beyond the Em dash misuse—but you really need more world-building.

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Your help in clearing these mishaps up would be most appreciated. Since you're moving at a rather slow pace (take your time, by all means), expect to also be reviewing Part II, as it's currently under construction.

Danke

-RaptorSenior/Xelor
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>>106576
Filler, this is an addition to a post I already made. I'm already in Golden's queue
>> No. 106587
Yo, GVeezy!

I was wondering if, when you get to me in the queue, you could also look at the first chapter. It's linked in the prologue. It's re-purposed from the previous draft, though with a few edits. Thanks!
>> No. 106588
>>106582
Ah, whoops. My apologies.
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>>105580
THE QUEUE IS STILL CLOSED

Goodness; I have no idea why I'm moving so slowly with these reviews. Maybe I'm catching reviewer fatigue? Ah, well.

ANYVAY.

Time for another session of splattering my incoherent opinions and making them look professional! Onward!

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Title: Ultimatum
Nice title. Succinct, and clear.

Unfortunately, I can't yet see how the hell it relates to your story.

Synopsis:

>What is the price one is willing to pay to regain what they hold dear?
This is okay, I guess, though you might want to reword it a bit—"one" is usually not a very good word to use as a subject in a narrative context.

>The ponies of Equestria will have to question themselves as they’re thrust into the largest event of history.
What event? Why are they questioning themselves? How the buck does this relate to the first sentence?

>They’ll have to do the unspeakable, and possibly lose their peace of mind,
Of course they'll lose their peace of mind if they're in this situation; saying that is just redundant. Also, this still does't relate to "the largest event of history" (though I think it's the event's fault, for being so damn vague).

>if only to keep the lives they cherish so dearly the same.
Awkward, SO SO SO AWKWARD (wording, that is).

>There shall be no mercy.
Good ending line. Unfortunately, it relates to absolutely NOTHING that I've just read. Make a Gladiator/300/MLP crossover; then this fits.

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Characters: 2/5
The only reason you didn't get a 1/5 was because there, technically, was a way to go lower than what you did. But I really did not get a feel for any of your characters, especially the main OC. He could've been just a cardboard cutout with a bunch of speech-bubble words and thoughts for all I cared. At no point did I feel like the were real ponies—instead, I just got thrown into the narrative (or what little there actually was), and was expected to learn about this guy instantly. The "sob story" that I mentioned with that other OC in the comments is also a problem, as it is for much of your protagonist. You need to do a helluva lot more work actually INTRODUCING your characters (re: this is what scenes are for), and less INFORMING us of them, directly, and especially in totally inappropriate contexts.

Plot: 1/5
To make a long story short: You didn't have one.

Oh, technically, there were characters. And those characters did (said?) things. But nothing actually happened—nothing, in fact, changed, developed, or introduced those characters—or even your setting—in any way, shape, or form. I'll skip right past mentioning that nothing in this character even bothered to address your synopsis (which really, it should introduce by, oh, 3-4k words in, if not sooner). I wanted things to happen—I wanted a reason to read your story.

But even if your characters had been well-developed and introduced enough (they weren't), I still had no investment in your writing. Nothing happened, and as such, my reading wouldn't have happened either.

Setting: 1.5/5
You didn't do terribly in some areas; for the most part, you avoided LUS (with one or two exceptions).

But the Show, Don't Tell! Oh, god, the SDT.

It was…horrible.

You were literally info dumping on us once every other page (and that may be an underestimation). There are many, many more natural ways to give us information about a character's backstory, and none of those involve getting the narrator to do it directly. I don't want to hear that "Stormcrusher was happy." There are a CRAPLOAD of ways you can alternatively introduce this idea. I believe this also fits under "Plot", as I distinctly remember commenting that you should really just have a few scenes before this mission to introduce the world, the characters, and the conflict. Even just a mess hall breakfast scene over coffee would work. A prologue in which the conflict is introduced with a separate set of characters (before moving to the mess hall scene) would work just as well, if not better.

Also, you needed body language. A LOT of body language.

Celestia, why don't you have body language? >:[

Mechanics: 4/5
Mreh. Not bad. But don't listen to that guy talking about commas; he doesn't know what he's saying >_>

Originality: 1/5
This is getting a low score for the same reasons as Plot.

There was nothing here; nothing of material or substance whatsoever.

I trust I don't have to go on.

Total: 9.5/25

Final Thoughts:

Here's your problem: you didn't have a story.

You had a little drabble, to be sure, as well as something resembling a narrative, but it wasn't a story.

And you definitely shouldn't take this (admittedly, extremely negative) review too hard. Yes, it got a low score, but I'm fully confident that if you come back with something, say, directly related to your synopsis, that you'll do much better. So take some time off to write something—anything—relating to your plot, and then come back and relate your first chapter to that. I get the feeling too that you know how you want your characters to appear, but you definitely need more in the execution to pull that off. So don't get discouraged. Exemplify, simplify, and above all else, try. Don't give up on this. Once you've got something, feel free to come back.

Ready for EqD?: No.
Rewrite Recommended?: Kinda-ish.

Best of luck!
Golden Vision
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>>106797
I'm putting a disclaimer on my review thread now. I really don't get mid sentence punctuation. At all.
>> No. 106818
I just noticed I'm not in the queue document. Did you close the queue retroactively?
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>>106818
Huh. I suppose you never put the info into the submission form.

>pic related
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>>106826

Good news, Golden!

Due to the mystical breakthrough of pure SCIENCE, you might be looking at Part II after all!

Yes, this does mean a bit more work. Yes, once it's fixed I'm bringing it back here. Yes, once all that jazz is done, I'm sending it to EQD.

I'll hopefully have it done by noon tomorrow, but if you find that you want to start reviewing Part I, by all means do so. I'll just hold off on Part II for the moment when your queue reopens.

Off I go to write some more!

-RaptorSenior/Xelor
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>>106826
I'll just go fill it out. I thought I already did, but I guess that was last time.
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So am I last in queue now because of that?

*sigh*
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Oh... wait...

I was the last to submit before the queue closed...

>mfw
>> No. 107061
And my last post in a chain of semi-spammy short sage replies:
The above synopsis was a working synopsis I came up with on the spot. Here's the one I'm actually going with:

"Dash asks Twilight to help her train for the upcoming Best Young Flier Competition, at which she meets Spitfire. After that, things get complicated.
>> No. 107255
Thank you very much for your review of "Beware the Mare Do Well!", I'll definitely work on fixing the LUS and SDT issues and create a prologue out of the first few pages. I'll also address your concerns on the characterization and include an explanation as to why things are as they are in the story.

There's one thing I would like clarified: what do you mean by "body language"? I'm not quite sure what that's supposed to entail exactly, and a quick explanation would be helpful, thank you.
>> No. 107285
>>107255
I'm not GV, but I can hopefully explain for you (and not make myself look like a fool doing so).

Body language is what you DO. It's physical action.

I know that's broad, so think of it this way. You don't just stand still and talk when you're with, do you? No. You have posture. You have facial expressions. You'll walk around, stand up, sit down, pick stuff up, tap your foot.

That's body language. It can be as small as a twitch or a raised eyebrow, and as large as stepping around a couch to whisper in another character's ear.

Really, just about anything you can have your character do with their body, while stuff is going on, can constitute body language. It's a powerful and flexible tool, and the possibilities are endless: you can use it for show-don't-tell, to dictate the pacing of a scene, and to give your characters little mannerisms and traits that bring them to life.

Hope that helps!
>> No. 107652
Hey, duder! You haven't reviewed in a while. Hope everything is okay IRL.

Anywho, quick request with my story. My second chapter is up. When you get to me, could you please SKIP the first chapter and just review the prologue and chapter two? You've already seen chapter one, just minor cosmetic changes. Thanks again, brother!
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God, I've really put this off for far too long. 15 days…damn. I feel like such an asshole.

ANYWAYS. Xelor, it really was quite nice chatting with you on the GDoc earlier today—more reviews should be that interactive, I believe—so here's the lowdown and full review.

Just a note to everyone: THE QUEUE IS STILL CLOSED…

…BUT, I'm going to do my best to clear it out, either by tonight, tomorrow, or Friday. It will likely stay closed for about a week after (I'm going on a college tour), but it will certainly be once again open for business on July 2nd or so.

Without further ado, the review! Allons-y!

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Title : Dystopia
An interesting title, I believe. My main issue is that it's a bit too literal. George Orwell, for example, could have given this title to his own novel, but the word "1984" is so much more powerful because of what it implies (how close we are to making X a reality), rather than giving us a direct label. I recommend you find something else that covers the main theme or point of your story, rather than outright slapping us with it like a wet fish.

Synopsis:

>The throne of the alicorn Ao sits a thousand years empty,
Who's Ao? What happened to Celestia and Luna? Is this an AU?

>unicorns have disappeared, and pegasi enslave the remaining earth ponies.
Okay for building up your setting, I suppose.

>An author strikes too close to the dark secret of her home city.
This needs more set-up. We don't really transition well from "enslaved earth ponies" to "dark secret"—if anything, given the connotations, we'd be more willing to switch the two!

>Banished, she seeks those who will stand with her against the corruption that stole the land.
Good, but you're laying out this supposed corruption too cleanly (or so we think—I know for a fact that this wasn't what you intended). Give us a clearer idea of what makes this "corruption/secret' so bad, what its done, and why it's worse than, oh, I dunno, SLAVERY.

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Characters: 3/5
I liked Ari. I liked Zero. I even liked Magenta (nice Rarity vibe going on there). Unfortunately, that excellent character interplay you had going on (Red Oni v. Blue Oni; etc) was completely interrupted by Ari's frequent soapboxing. My goodness, but she felt like an honest-to-goodness Moral Sue, erupting over slavery every few pages. It was made even worse judging by, apparently, how everyone else in this society is perfectly okay with it. What, was she born with a genetic mutation that made her question the status quo? You went way overboard with her reactions to things that she really should be used to by this point. Otherwise, everything else seemed fine.

Plot: 2/5
Interesting, but not really enough to hold my attention. From what I see of your synopsis, you're using the slavery thing as a cheap ticket to get Ari banished, from which you can just waltz into your "dark secret" plotline and take it from there. There's far too much focus on it, and you really should just tone it down quite a bit. There's some good potential for philosophical wanderings, much in the style of Gone With the Wind (especially once you told me you were going to include an anti villain), but here, it's just way too over-the-top.

Setting: 3/5
Okay; you avoided LUS for the most part. But there were several instances of SDT that I picked out, and there were also a few occasions of "naked" dialogue where you really should have had had body language to set the tone. You also needed to put a bit more work on transitioning moods within one scene. But overall, not bad.

Mechanics: 4.5/5
Good job. Just make sure to edit this, as I did catch some mistakes.

Originality: 3/5
This was mostly enjoyable, strangely enough, and I really wanted it to do well. But in the midst of the slavery plot tumor, your overemphasis on the proti, and other such misadventures, I would get lost and start wondering when what you promised in your synopsis would show up.

Total: 15.5/25

Final Thoughts
This is the kind of step where you really have to decide what you want to do. An other author could legitimately say that this is good enough, post on fimfiction, and get a deservedly good response. It's not bad writing, by any means. Your problem (and one that you definitely realize) is a severe weakness to stressing certain plot elements before they're needed or even particularly relevant, and just jumping headlong into an extreme before considering other options. Ari was one particularly painful example of this. So keep working, keep revising, and I'll see you when you next submit!

Ready for EqD?: No
Rewrite Recommened?: If a scene involves slavery and Ari, then yes.

Best of luck!
Golden Vision
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>>105619
Gah, I'm really sorry, but unless you allow comments on your fic, I can't really review it. I apologize for not catching this earlier.
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>>105687
Hi there. Unfortunately, you're already on EqD, and so I don't really think you need me to look at your fic. I hope that this doesn't come off the wrong way, but I'll need to pass over you to get to someone who needs it more.
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Hi Jake! Your (prologue) link was a GDoc mobile post, so I couldn't post comments on it. Seeing as I rarely do that on resubmissions anyway…well. Let's just say that if you want me to do in-depth for future updates, you might want to make sure they're in the right format.

ANYWAYS.

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Title: Under a Luminous Sky
Interesting, either dark, light, or bitter, and somewhat mysterious as well. I like it, provided you find a way to directly link it in with your main themes or plot later on.

Synopsis:
>Tragedy strikes Ponyville when a body is discovered on the outskirts of the Everfree.
Ooh, myster intrigue. Fun!

>As the townsponies grieve, an enigmatic stallion arrives at Ponyville Library, dispatched by the Princess herself.
Good introduction of the major OC in this fic.

>When more blood is spilled, Twilight and her friends, along with this strange pony, must work together
Good set-up of the major players of your fic. Excellent synopsis so far.

>to solve a crime that nopony wants to acknowledge.
…And here's where you start to go bad. "Nopony wants to acknowledge" it? Well, why the hay not? That seems very silly. Try describing the crime itself rather than other ponies' strange reactions to it.

>But sometimes, murder is only the beginning...
My reaction: wut. Seriously, this is really bizarre, and doesn't make a lot of sense. You could actually just leave it off with the [edited] last sentence and cut this out entirely.

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I know that this is essentially a rethinking of the story, so I'll give you the benefit of a thorough review, at least.

Characters4.5/5
Excellent, excellent work. Everyone was IC at all times, and I enjoyed how you developed your OC, Top Notch. My main concern was that there were occasional hiccups—like when Berry explicitly refers to herself as "the town drunk", or when Celestia giggles or grins during a serious debriefing. But those shouldn't be too hard to fix.

Plot: 4/5
Just as good as it was before. I have two main problems, though. First, why was it so bad that the detectives needed to be called in? Celestia didn't want to get them involved, apparently, but then Notch seemed mostly like a pretty chill guy, so I didn't get the vague sense of DOOM at all. Either add that in, or just take the vaguely foreboding part out.

Setting: 3/5
You lost definite points for LUS, which you really should know better than to use by now. Also remember to restate names if you switch speakers or go on using pronouns for too long. Occasional body language was also lacking.

Mechanics: 4/5
Again, a few hiccups. Not shabby at all.

Originality: 5/5
I really did enjoy this. It was good, smoothly-written, and not hard to get through at all. Give it another edit and look over Ch. 1 to make sure I haven't missed anything, and you should be good to go!

Total: 20.5/25

Final Thoughts:

I've seen this story developing from the beginning. And now, looking back, I can honestly say that you're SO CLOSE! Just make those smaller, mechanical/stylistic fixes, and you'll be good to go!

Ready for EqD?: Almost!
Rewrite Recommended?: Nupe.

Best of luck!
Golden Vision
>> No. 107989
>>107982
HUZZAH! Thanks for your time!

HOLY CRAP YOU LIKED IT! lol Yeah, I was kinda proud of this one.
Now, on the mobile issue, DoD computers don't allow me to access Google Docs, so I had to use my phone. Sorry, it won't happen again. As such, since I'm on duty right now, I can't respond to the in-doc line by line. I will tomorrow, but here's the response to you feedback here.

>You lost definite points for LUS, which you really should know better than to use by now.
I know. :P I did that on purpose. Notice that I actually used "Lavander Unicorn?" Okay, I KNOW that it's a huge pet peeve for reviewers here, but seriously, I see it so often in EqD approved fics, that I used it to spite you, kind of. As a writer, I get tired of names and pronouns all the time. Definitely a "F**k yo Couch" moment. Sue me. :P

> I like it, provided you find a way to directly link it in with your main themes or plot later on.

Okay, here's where I may be getting too artsy-fartsy. My story/chapter naming convention is I use metal songs, since I'm a huge music fan. Either the title of the song, or a line from it, will have something to do with the chapter. Example: the prologue, "Dance of Death" is an Iron Maiden song. In it, there is a line that goes, "I was rambling, enjoying the bright moonlight, gazing up at the stars." I liked that line for some reason, so I used it in the story. This chapter, "The Evil That Men Do", is also Maiden. The first part of the chapter is Celestia observing the effects of the evil done by the killer. The second half is about a shady organization that it is implied does dark things for the good of Equestria. Hence, evil that men(ponies) do.
Now, as for the title, "Under A Luminous Sky." That's a song by a prog metal band Communic(which, by the way, you should TOTALLY check out. Waves of Visual Decay. Get it. Now!) Anywho, there's a line in that song, "They kill for the sake of killing, to reach a new and better reality." Now, it might not seem like it now, but that will factor in in a big way once the full plot is revealed. Now, is that too obscure? I could rethink it if you think it is.


>"Nopony wants to acknowledge" it? Well, why the hay not? That seems very silly.

Again, all will be revealed. The plan is the local sheriff, Gold Star, is about to retire in a few months. In his time as sheriff of Ponyville, not a single violent crime has been committed, and he wants to maintain his perfect record. So, he's going to chalk up Berry's death as a Timberwolf attack. When the agent comes in and starts investigating, Gold Star will fight him tooth and nail(hoof and nail?) because he refuses to admit it's anything more. Do you think I shouldn't include that in the synopsis?


Again, I can't thank you enough for sticking with me through this whole thing. Your kind words and harsh critiques are a Godsend. Thanks!!
>> No. 107991
>>107982
Also, if there's no one in the queue, here's the good link to the prologue:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PS9W39Y6e6zbVeXxAHJNrnpLV6hDfa4j39L4-pEpce0/edit
>> No. 108008
>>107991
There are people in the queue.
>> No. 108013
>>108008
Ah, okay. Sorry, again, no Google Docs on DoD computers. Don't worry about it, then. :)

>saged for politeness.
>> No. 108028
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>>107953

I'm at the weary crossroads, my friend. You've probably never been there before, but I sure have. It's the place where I decide whether or not to give up writing, as it seems the newcomers are far better at it than I.

Make no mistake: this isn't due to the review. I actually liked it. A lot. Yet the thing that bothers me is that I never seem to be able to get it right. My mind is mixed with irrelevant information that loves to destroy my creative processes. Information such as a lack of confidence, a worry about things not going right, and a harsh judgment that I pass on myself when I really shouldn't.

I came to this block today during my leave to my uncle's ranch. No Internet. No electricity. Just me, a pen, and a notepad. Yet I found myself unable to write anything---unable to even make a mark on the page.

I apologize if this seems deary and full of the dreaded ANGST, however ANGST is common with a lot of people.

But that doesn't matter. Farewell, Golden Vision. Until next time, when I have something worth your while.
>> No. 108039
>>107982
>Hi Jake! Your (prologue) link was a GDoc mobile post, so I couldn't post comments on it. Seeing as I rarely do that on resubmissions anyway…well. Let's just say that if you want me to do in-depth for future updates, you might want to make sure they're in the right format.
A quick tip on this: changing formats is easy for anyone to do.

Editing mode: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PS9W39Y6e6zbVeXxAHJNrnpLV6hDfa4j39L4-pEpce0/edit
Preview mode (nice for pleasure reading): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PS9W39Y6e6zbVeXxAHJNrnpLV6hDfa4j39L4-pEpce0/preview
Mobile mode: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PS9W39Y6e6zbVeXxAHJNrnpLV6hDfa4j39L4-pEpce0/mobilebasic

How'd I do it? I just changed the end of the URL. "/edit" "/preview" and "/mobilebasic"

...

I couldn't leave this alone, sorry:
>>107989
>>You lost definite points for LUS, which you really should know better than to use by now.
>I know. :P I did that on purpose. Notice that I actually used "Lavander Unicorn?" Okay, I KNOW that it's a huge pet peeve for reviewers here, but seriously, I see it so often in EqD approved fics, that I used it to spite you, kind of. As a writer, I get tired of names and pronouns all the time. Definitely a "F**k yo Couch" moment. Sue me. :P
There are good reasons for using epithets in place of names. That's not one of them. If you feel you're overusing names/pronouns, it's probably because your wording is too cumbersome, and you should use it as an excuse to restructure your sentences. Slapping in a descriptor is the easy, ineffectual way out.

I've seen dialogue punctuation screwups in EqD-approved fics, but that doesn't make it okay.
>> No. 108043
>>108039
There has been every single error in writing in EqD approve stories, from plot holes to missing periods. Additionally, every single one of those errors has appeared in one way or another in published stories, which people pay money for and editors get contracted to revise.

The point being: Errors don't become acceptable because someone does them. Stylistic choices on the other hand...
>> No. 108051
>>108028
Learn how to swim before jumping in the shark pen.
If you look at many of the most popular fanfics, they are taken from a simple idea, or a very basic premise. Meanwhile, you're trying to world build, something that does not come by easily, and often requires lots of experience in writing in order to pull off.
You may be surprised at how fun it can be to write something like "Pinkie Pie loses gummy and searches all over Ponyville to find him." When you try for something more complex like building your own world, you can find yourself at crossroads with a million different directions to take.
Meanwhile in a simpler story, you either go left or right. And it's the fact that these choices are simple, that some of the mostly tightly knit fanfics are very, very basic.
>> No. 108060
>>108039
Thanks for the lesson, but I think it's still on me. I should have had everything ready for him.

As for the LUS, yeah, you're right. Damn you and you're... uh, rightness! Consider it changed!
>> No. 108062
>>107982
Okay, line by line response! Just a few things I want to quantify.

>This might be a canon issue—Shining's the Captain of the Royal Guard, which is VERY different from being a general. Unless you're implying that he's been promoted in some way.

Yes. I guess I didn't make this clearer to you, but this takes place a few years after Season Two. My reasons are my own. Any hints on how I can establish this without ex-positing my brains out?

>True, death was a natural part of life, and she was confident the young scientist could handle it.

>LUS Wheeeeeee...

STOP IT ALREADY. I'M TOO LAZY TO BOTHER NOTING IT OUT ANYMORE >:[

Okay, I think this one is justified. In the context, Celestia thinks Twilight can handle it because she's a young scientist. So, I felt it was an appropriate use of the dreaded LUS. No?

>I will destroy you!

Love you, too, sister!

>Cute, but lose the exclamations.

Why? I can see the second one, because it's more sly and smug than anything else, but the first is said(thought) in anger. Why not use an exclamation?

>Mellifluous

>KILL THIS WORD IMMEDIATELY. SEND IT BACK TO THESAURUS HELLLLLL.

AAAHHHHHHH!!!!!
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You know, I've been thinking. Maybe that word is a little too fancy...
>> No. 108321
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>>105802
Hey, SLP! I finally got around to reviewing (the first two chapters of) your fic! Comments should be on the GDoc; otherwise, let's move on, shall we? As a final note, this will be the last review that I do for now—now that my queue is clear, I can go away for a bit with a similarly clear conscience. From tomorrow until Monday, July 2nd, the queue will remain closed.

I will be going to BroNYCon (both days), though, so if you see a 17-year old guy wandering around with a name tag reading "Golden Vision," that's me!

So, without further ado, let's get on with the review!

I'm such a poet; herp.

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Title: Flying High, Falling Hard
I like this title. It gives exactly the impression that you'd like, both on a plot (RD competition) and character-level (Flying as a metaphor for romance)

Summary:

>Dash crashes into the Library unannounced again. Twilight, fed up with this happening so often, sticks her nose into Dash's training and winds up helping her train for the upcoming Best Young Flier Competition.
You could definitely merge these sentences to make something more engaging. Try:

>When Rainbow Dash crashes into the library one too many times, Twilight ends up helping her train for the upcoming Best Young Flier Competition.

Now, that's a good one-line description. But it's not a true, expansive summary. We've condensed one part of the story, but I'm sure there's plenty more that you can do with what you have (or will have). Try writing about the development of their friendship, or hint at their developing relationship—anything! Something that really develops your writing past the superficial surface plot.

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Characters: 4/5
Stellar. I never felt for a moment that either Twilight or Dash were OOC, and their interactions were interesting enough that I never lost interest for a moment. My main complaint would be the weirdness of the PoV, which can be attributed somewhat to SDT. You seem to be going for a very objective, removed style, which is fine—I do the same thing myself. But when you get too in-depth into the feelings or thoughts of either pony, you lost us, as that's a strange turn for the mood that you've created. So work on Showing those concepts, either through dialogue or body language, rather than giving them to us directly.

Plot: 4/5
Interesting enough. My one gripe would be that I wanted to see more—the library is fine for the first chapter, but by the second chapter I want something else: more characters, more settings, more scenes, and so on. You need to make your world seem a bit more three-dimensional, and any of the above (even a simple visit from, say, Applejack) would work great for that.

Setting: 4/5
Not shabby at all. I caught a few instances of SDT and maybe one LUS throughout. Watch those. You did have excellent body language, though, so good job there.

Mechanics: 4/5
Again, only one major issue. I would occasionally find your writing to be a bit stilted or repetitive. Try rereading it yourself in your head to get a feel for when your style comes across as forced or otherwise doesn't flow.

Originality: 3/5
Blaaaaargh.

Okay, here's where I have a big problem.

From what I saw, you're basically doing an AU of, at the very least, Sonic Rainboom. Now, in any other circumstance, that would be fine, although it would definitely be quite confusing for fans, considering the relative importance of the episode in canon. However, there was no need for it to be that way. You could've easily set this up to be a different, future competition, or perhaps even the actual tryout for the Wonderbolts. When you're essentially rewriting episodes of the show, you're messing with canon, and it's important to step back and see if you really need to do this, or if you just felt like it. From what I can see, you didn't really need to—especially with the fact that the other Mane Six aren't involved, there's nothing about the Young Fliers Competition that sets it apart from any other possible event.

Total: 19/25

Final Thoughts:
I liked this fic. I enjoyed the characters, the setting, and the overall idea. My main issues came from how you wrote it, and that's a stylistic/plot-related choice that only you can make. I'd suggest taking a look at the bigger picture in this story before sweating on any of the small stuff (though by all means, don't ignore what I commented on in the doc).

Ready for EqD?: Almost.
Rewrite Recommended?: Kinda, in that I'd retcon it to NOT be a confusing AU.

Best of luck!
Golden Vision
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>>108321

Thanks for the review! I'm glad to see it did better than the last rewrite.

First off, the summary:
>You could definitely merge these sentences to make something more engaging. Try: When Rainbow Dash crashes into the library one too many times, Twilight ends up helping her train for the upcoming Best Young Flier Competition.

Ah, great. That's much less awkwardly written than my version. I tend to like very short and simple summaries, that, like a good opening line, tell you what's immediately happening, but leads you on to read more.

>From what I saw, you're basically doing an AU of, at the very least, Sonic Rainboom. Now, in any other circumstance, that would be fine, although it would definitely be quite confusing for fans, considering the relative importance of the episode in canon. However, there was no need for it to be that way. You could've easily set this up to be a different, future competition, or perhaps even the actual tryout for the Wonderbolts. When you're essentially rewriting episodes of the show, you're messing with canon, and it's important to step back and see if you really need to do this, or if you just felt like it. From what I can see, you didn't really need to—especially with the fact that the other Mane Six aren't involved, there's nothing about the Young Fliers Competition that sets it apart from any other possible event.

As for the stylistic and plot choices that irked you, well, the fic was written back near the very start of season 2, just after the two discord episodes. At this point the story is very heavily set in the AU time frame it's in. (God I wish I had 'read it and weep' to work with! Then again, the whole reason this story was 'the TwiDash fic' for a while, was because it was written before that episode.)

I suppose I could have used a different event to introduce Spitfire into the plot, but then it wouldn't have been the first time Spitfire and Dash met, it would have been the umpteenth, considering how often she seems to pop up in the show. Also, if I used some other event, it wouldn't feel right having Dash get incredibly nervous about her performance at that event if it took place after the sonic rainboom. She becomes incredibly insecure before the contest, both due to not being able to pull off a sonic rainboom prior to the contest, and Twilight acting distant. In the end, Twilight rushes to the stadium and throws away her fears of being with Dash, kissing her in the middle of the waiting lobby in front of dozens of other contestants. Dash gets a surge of confidence, and puts on a great performance (as opposed to the shaky one she puts on in the show) which causes Spitfire to become attracted to her.

So, from a stand point of the first few (read that as ten) chapters, it does seem unnecessary that I made it AU the way I did, but it plays a major role in what happens later in the story. I also have plans for the grand galloping gala in the epilogue.

> Mechanics: 4/5
> Again, only one major issue. I would occasionally find your writing to be a bit stilted or repetitive. Try rereading it yourself in your head to get a feel for when your style comes across as forced or otherwise doesn't flow.

I think I've hit a wall with improving my writing. I haven't actually sat down and read a fiction novel in over a year, only books on writing and articles. (Tons and tons of articles. That's more or less what I read, actually.)

> Originality: 3/5
> Blaaaaargh.

I'm not surprised to score low in originality. The whole idea was to write the beginning of a very typical (but interesting) shipping story, and then throw a wrench at it when Dash comes out and kisses Twilight, who becomes shocked and angry, runs away, and locks herself inside the library.

> My one gripe would be that I wanted to see more—the library is fine for the first chapter, but by the second chapter I want something else: more characters, more settings, more scenes, and so on. You need to make your world seem a bit more three-dimensional, and any of the above (even a simple visit from, say, Applejack) would work great for that.

Fluttershy shows up at the beginning of chapter 3, and sticks around for a third of the chapter or so, at first at the library with Twilight and Dash, and then later Dash leaves with her to talk about her feelings (in a roundabout manner, of course). So hopefully that covers that base.

Honestly, I think this is close to the best I can hope for with the beginning of this fic. It's a story that becomes interesting over time, as essentially what I did while writing it was stack problem on top of problem until about chapter 16, and only resolved one or two of them during that time. It creates (I hope) a story in which lots of dynamics are in play at once, and the situation is more complex than most.

Kurbz and Norse, the two who helped on Let's Find You a Date, are pre-reading chapters 1-5, so once those are polished up hopefully it will get on EqD and I can finally post my 24 chapters of edits that I've been working on for 3 months.

Yeah, it probably wasn't worth it.

Anywho, great job on the review again. I'll probably stop by down the road with my next fic if your queue's open. I hope to delve into the murky waters of non-shipping with it.
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>>108702

Sorry, but I see that you've failed to read the last review Golden created. Please read the first few lines and you should be all set.
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>>108718

Don't worry. It happens to the best of us.
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Attention /fic/! I have returned from BronyCon/College touring, and I am pleased to announce that:

OUR QUEUE IS BOTH CLEAR AND OPEN!

So waltz right on in, drop a fic or two in the queue, and get ready for some top-notch, prime reviewin'!

In the meantime, I'm off to do SCIENCE.
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Welcome back, Golden! To celebrate this momentous occasion, have a fic to review!

[Title] Quod Timeo

[Tags] Dark

[Characters] Rainbow Dash

[Word Count] 2533

[Synopsis] Some things are better left alone.

[Link] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bWrbu8o7LLuBeUgt6KYfNWavVv9HolfYihYnNTNh3z0/edit

And there you are! Before you get started, this story has a lot of awkward sentences and poor word choice. Any suggestions to improve effect are appreciated!
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Hey, Golden! I have a riveting story about cello tuning for you to review :)

Title: Fine Tuning
Synopsis: Octavia has been tuning her cello for way too long, and Lyra is getting sick of it.
Tag: [Slice of Life]
Link:https://docs.google.com/document/d/16nlew-c7MA-XkBXY6vYjfAKMzTZHxhYs1zsI2Hj1dKg/edit
Word Count: 6500ish

Also, this is currently in Nick and Seattle's review thread.

Thanks!
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Title: Scribes Are Weird.

Tags: Slice of Life, Adventure.

Word count: 5842

Synopsis: Ghostwriter is Celestia's personal scribe, though he has doubts about his own skills. Ponies may respect his position, but not him personally and he's sick of it. When Celestia sends him to Ponyville to transcribe the events involving the Elements of Harmony, Ghost sees it as a chance for a fresh start. But when Ghost arrives, he has no idea what exploits the Elements of Harmony are always up to.

Chapter 1 link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YdbTwDIFhE4FJxe3qnXVe5-3M-2V6F-C4wbqnwbroTA/edit

So, yeah the idea is not that original, but I gave it a shot. Tried to ask for your help before but the queue was closed.

I also have this story being reviewed in another thread.

So when you get time read this little piece. (Though your picture indicates your a time pony, so time might be the least of your concerns.)
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>>109486
>>109463
>>109485
Hokay, so ye all be in the queue. One teensy problem, though, is that I've just learned that my house has no Internet. So I won't be able to get to y'all until tomorrow morning/afternoon. Ah, well.

Until then, though!
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You remember this one, right?

Title: Let's Find You a Date!

Author: Soundslikeponies

Tags: [Romance][Comedy]

Word count: ~6,000 (not quite done as of this moment. Going to do finishing touches tonight.)

Characters: Twilight Sparkle, Rarity

Synopsis: When Rarity finds out how little Twilight gets out of the Library, things get out of hand as she decides to take it upon herself to teach Twilight the ropes of dating. As Rarity drags her around, Twilight begins to have a good idea of who she wants to ask out.

Link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cWVbRl35B4ykyR0iQPcENUxjcYS1_pPPPccEhXtL-00/edit

Kurbz will also be going over it as well.
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>>109501
...Tell me, do you know what a bunny fire is?

Kidding.
I'm actually fine with that.
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>>109506
To whichever two people who decided to read the chapter, it isn't complete yet. I hit the point where it currently ends and decided to sleep on it before deciding what came of that scene.

It'll be done by tomorrow morning.
>> No. 109554
Yay, you're back! Got a new one for ya. I'm not to sure about this one yet. It's also an important chapter, because this is where we meet our main character OC, so please bring your A game.

Title: Under A Luminous Sky: Chapter Three- The Devil You Know
Author: Jake The Army Guy
Tags: Dark, Mystery
Synopsis: Tragedy strikes Ponyville when a body is discovered on the outskirts of the Everfree. As the townsponies grieve, an enigmatic stallion arrives at Ponyville Library, dispatched by the Princess herself. When more blood is spilled, Twilight and her friends, along with this strange pony, must work together to solve this puzzle before it's too late.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AXWvZ7xTNuj1PTk9ZB4-A8_NVMsH8l3IMnAEUSHRn5w/edit
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Holy fuck; the queue's been open for half a day, and I already have five fics to review.

Granted, it's mainly The Usual Suspects, but still!

Anyways, I've discovered that my local library has free WiFi available for the next hour, so I'll do my best to cover most of Xelor's fic. The rest of you, I should get to by either tomorrow or Thursday.
>> No. 109571
>>109557
Dammit, who is Keyser Soze?!
>> No. 109573
>>109486
I feel it appropriate to tell you that I am going to be sending this to one more reviewer.

Alright? Cool.
>> No. 109630
[Title]: Two Suns in the Sunset

[Author]: A Hoof-ful of Dust

[Tags]: Sad, mild Shipping

[Characters]: Twilight Sparkle, Princess Celestia

[Word Count]: 3.4k

[Synopsis]: A world-consuming being threatens Equestria. Can Twilight find it within herself to face it, even with the other Elements of Harmony behind her?

[Link]: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1W7cBDTqx2cLsjDJ2P_8iqCelUsHKSVFetI7bVsra7Is/edit

[Notes]: I'm coming here to get some help at the suggestion of an EqD prereader, so obviously I'm aiming to get this story on EqD but have been knocked back once. They highlighted issues with formatting and complexity of the plot, as well as nebulous unidentified technical problems. I don't agree with their suggestion to rework the story into a more traditional narrative - while I understand I've made some unorthodox choices in presenting this story, they were all made with the intent of supporting the story I want to tell and not just for the sake of being different - so I would really appreciate any advice on how to clarify my story further. Thanks much.
>> No. 109637
Title: Dreams of a Perfect Day
Author Name: Margos
Tags: Sad
Words: 5,066
Link: http://goo.gl/HL4z8
Summary: Changelings. They are creatures who feed on love. They feed off of the feelings that ponies hold most dear, but they cannot feel them themselves. Or can they? One little princess is determined to find out.
Chapters: One-shot
Characters: Chrysalis
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>>109463
Hi Xelor! Congrats on being the first review of my (re-opened thread). Let's get down to business, shall we?

It was fun to chat with you in the GDoc. Considering that I wasn't able to get in touch with you again (due to me having other stuffs to do), I'll have to do this review entirely off of first impressions, as usual.

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Title: Quod Timeo

Okay, so here's the thing. On a professional level, this somewhat intrigues me. It sounds fancy, eloquent, and all that other fun stuff. It looked suspiciously foreign (you don't say?) and I found that, in Latin, the phrase translates to "I fear that" (assuming, in this case, that "that" as a noun and not an adjective).

However, this brings up an interesting dilemma. On just the basis of your title, and nothing more—and keeping in mind that the title, not the synopsis, is your best "hook"—I'm not really drawn into your fic immediately. Maybe you really like the word choice, and if so, that's fine. But it doesn't make the reader likely to click the link to the fic, and for that, you might want to consider changing it.

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Synopsis:

>Some things are better left alone.

…That's it?

You're kidding, right? You've got to be joking. There's no way that—

>checks under queue

Nope. That's all there is. Wow.

Okay, so stylistically or no, unless you're a bloody genius, a synopsis can not be one sentence. It especially can't be one sentence that reveals nothing about the characters, plot, or setting of the fic. Because really, that's what your synopsis should be accomplishing. What you have here might work well as a stinger, re:

>Rainbow Dash will soon learn that some things are better left alone.

That's a good ending for a synopsis—it leaves us hanging; makes us wanting more. But to do that, you've got to have a foundation, which right now is sorely lacking.

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Characters: 3/5

The most I have to say here is "mreh." There wasn't much that I can pick at, mostly because there really wasn't much here in the way of characterization. I mean, we've seen how Dash can react when panicked (Sonic Rainboom, May the Best Pet Win, Read it and Weep, etc.), so you were mostly IC at the beginning and end, at least. However, at no point while reading did I feel as though I were actually seeing things through Dash's eyes—instead, everything just kind of happened around her, with Dash as a totally passive and thoughtless observer.

Occasionally, she'd also do something that didn't make much sense, such as calling for Pinkie when being chased by that freaky shadow. Overall, reading this was a strange experience in "what is she doing?" and "why is she doing that?"

Plot: 2/5
I'll be honest: I was really confused throughout. I didn't quite get what was going on in the beginning, was somewhat freaked out by the (apparently pointless) skull dream, had no idea what was going on in the cave, and then found it totally unclear whether the events in the cave had actually happened, or if Dash was just high off of IV fluids and had hallucinated the whole thing. You need to do more to set up what you're doing, where your characters have been, and what exactly is going on. I'm going to reiterate a few things from the comments to make it clear:

>Why is Dash running?
>What is that thing chasing her?
>Where is she, and why?
>Why does she think the monster is Pinkie?
>Was it all a dream?
>What's the skull, and why does it matter?

Now, some of these are perfectly valid questions that you may not want answered just yet, and that's fine. But for the most part, I didn't know what was happening in this fic, and—no ifs, ands, or buts about it—that is definitely not a good thing.

Setting: 2/5
You avoided LUS for the most part, and used some passable body language, but there were quite a few times were you Told us about an action that you should have described, or didn't lay out the scene, or just completely didn't bother to inform us as to what was going on. Definitely not your best moment in this section.

Mechanics: 3.5/5
You did fine for the most part (on grammar/spelling, at least), but DAMN, when you said that there were issues with word choice, sentence structure (and, for my part, Purple Prose), you goddamn meant it. Wow. That's all I have to say about that.

Originality: 2/5
You got a low score here because I really couldn't understand the plot of your fic in the slightest. I didn't know what was going on, felt confused and helpless (as a reader!), and just wanted to put it away. Not good.

Total: 12.5/25

Final Thoughts:
I think your biggest problems in this came from the fact that you didn't expand upon the setting and the story's own background enough for the reader (me) to follow along with what was happening, and what had already happened. Clear up your writing style, make sure you're not describing things that don't need to be described, make sure you are describing things that do need it, and basically just make things easy on your reader. It's perfectly possible to make a tense, suspenseful, and dark story even while the reader knows exactly what he/she is reading.

Ready for EqD?: No
Rewrite Recommended?: More of an expansion than a proper rewrite.

Best of luck!
Golden Vision
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>>109485
Hi Nicholas! Hope everything goes (went) well at work!

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Title: Fine Tuning

A good title. Fits with the plot, sets the scene, and is a clever pun on the idea of tuning versus the common colloquialism. Quite nice.

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Synopsis:

>Octavia has been tuning her cello for way too long, and Lyra is getting sick of it.

Usually, I'd be against a synopsis this short. But for what you've written—honestly more of a drabble than an actual story—I suppose it fits.

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Characters: 4/5
I very much liked how you portrayed Lyra, Octavia, and even their professor throughout. The interactions between "the classy, elitist cellist" and "the down-to-earth, irritated lyre player." Every step of Lyra's reaction felt completely IC, as well, and I had a very clear picture of Octavia as exactly the kind of character you wanted her to come across as.

That is, until the end.

Everything was great, up until the point that Lyra started waxing poetically about the beauty of Octavia's note. I'm not saying she shouldn't be able to, but I wanted more of a defined transition between "Dammit, why doesn't she shut up?" and "hohmahgawd this is beautiful." It felt too sudden and too forced, especially with the "oh, they're friends now" bit at the end. It seemed to come out of nowhere, and just really annoyed me out of what was otherwise a very pleasant and familiar characterization.

Plot: 4.5/5
Now, I mentioned something about a drabble earlier, and I'm going to reiterate that here: this wasn't a story so much as it was a very lengthy drabble.

Three things happen here: Lyra complains, Lyra speaks to her professor, and Lyra cries.

That's it; no further development occurs or is really necessary.

With that said, I guess this is a nice little side story that could easily fit well as an interlude into some overarching plot of "Lyra and Octavia: The College Days" or something like that. I do hope that you weren't hoping for more than that, because that's all it really is (which, again, isn't necessarily a bad thing, and I won't penalize you for it).

Now, the one minor quibble I have with the plot is—and let's be honest here—I didn't see why Lyra had to go to such an esteemed professor for an apparently minor issue. Is there no Manager of Student Life on this campus? This was a disciplinary issue, not an academic one.

Setting: 2/5
Ouch. This is what hit you hard. Purple prose, SDT, and general clunkiness took your story down a few notches on the reviewing echeladder. Some of your sentences just felt weird, and overall, there was quite a bit of excess description or background that you could have just as easily cut out. As a general rule, if it doesn't develop the plot (in a fic this short, that's all that needs to be developed), then it's unneeded. See that whole bit on (*checks Doc*) Lyra reflecting on Octavia being a roommate for an example.

Mechanics: 5/5
I think I found one error, and that was just a typo. CLOSE ENOUGH.

Originality/Enjoyability: 5/5
I actually enjoyed this. The pacing was good, the idea was nice enough, and it felt like a nice little self-contained drabble. No real issues here.

Total: 20.5/25

Final Thoughts
This didn't stand out as amazing, but if you fixed the Setting issues, it could easily stand out as a good fic. Good job!

Ready for EqD?: Not quite
Rewrite Recommended?: Nah

Best of luck!
Golden Vision
>> No. 110136
So I'm reading through this thread to find some cool recommendations, but I keep coming across two acronyms that are completely lost on me: LUS and SDT.

I'm not exactly a /fic/ regular, far from it in fact, so I'm wondering what exactly they stand for.

Polite sage for off-topic question.
>> No. 110137
Lavender Unicorn Syndrome: using descriptions instead of nouns to refer to a character, making it difficult to follow who is doing what after a while of hearing about the lavender unicorn, Celestia's pupil, the most magical unicorn in Equestria, and the greatest super-secret ninja thief ever.

Show, Don't tell: the idea that you should do your best to describe things rather than telling them to the reader, making sure what you describe has some sort of relevance to the plot.
>> No. 110139
>>110137
Thank y' kindly, anonymous.
>> No. 110147
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Hey GV! I've just been rejected by EQD and figured that a fifth pair of eyes to behold my mediocre writing.

Title: Pop Culture
Tags: Slice of Life
Word Count: 4662
Characters: Sweetie Belle, Rarity, Sapphire Shores
Synopsis: Sapphire Shores returns to Rarity's boutique to thank her for the most comfortable, fashionable stage wear she's every had. While there, she overhears Sweetie Belle singing, and decides her voice is sensational . Logically, she offers Sweetie a recording deal. Sweetie accepts, and moves to Canterlot to learn the art of being a pop starlet, with all the ups and downs it brings.
Link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1V40ZqxDjjIrfi3hEWQuitM7jwCmtzpG2mpZexKA5ey4/edit

Comments: Ive sent this to Minjask, Hugbox, and Nicknack, and bitches still hating! So much hate I need an AK EQD respectfully declined to post it for reasons none of us caught. Here's the message.

Sapphire's dialogue and speech pattern vary wildly, and not in a way that I can find believable since the context doesn't change so dramatically to warrant it.

You've got things like doubled words, missing quotation marks, inconsistent naming schemes (she's Applebloom in one spot and Apple Bloom six grafs down?), heaps and heaps of redundancy, both in dialogue attribution verbs as well as actions, missing spaces, missing words, extra spaces, said bookism abuse, semicolon misuse... I think I'm going to go ahead and stop there.

I've looking for all of these issues and to be frank. I can't find much. One extra space that I missed is the extent of my ability. I must be turning a blind eye to all of this. I'd send this to Chocolate Milk since the problem seems to be exclusively grammatical, but his queue is always closed. Thanks for the help.
>> No. 110208
>>109554
Quick note, since I appear to be coming up shortly. In my story, I included a letter that Shining Armor wrote to Twilight. Nothing major revealed, just a bit of world building. LunarShadow seemed to think it could be summarized or dumped completely, and he may be right. I just wanted to include it. When you read, please let me know what your thoughts are.

Also, now that my OC is in play, after you review, I'm gonna submit to EqD.
>> No. 110517
I recently submitted to you the story "From the Mouths of Fillies."

My overall goal with this story is to secure a place in the Pony Fiction Vault; I recognize that this is no small ambition, and as such, I ask that you crucify my fic wherever it needs it. If I have made any mistake, blunder, or faux paus, however minor, please let me know.

Thank you,

Comma-Kazie.
>> No. 110741
>>110517

I apologize in advance for this intrusion, G.V. I hope you don't mind my weighing in on this.

My friend, ambition is wonderful; it's a gift, and certainly something to hold onto. But I would urge you not to let it prevent you from seeing the true purpose of writing.

I'll tell you from experience that the exact scenario you're describing is not the "end all" you might think it is. Sure, any sort of recognition is wonderful at first, but it fades as quickly as it comes. That's why authors will tell you, time and time again, that you should write for yourself and only yourself. If others are impressed by what you've created, that's wonderful; I tip my hat to you. However, if you're satisfied with what you've written, no amount of praise or criticism will change your feelings, nor should it.

If you are truly proud of what you've done, you're as happy as you'll every be.
>> No. 110757
>>110741

This is an old debate and one that should have a more nuanced response. There has to be a limit to "write for yourself." if someone aspires to recognition and/or some form of "success," then as you say it's an admirable goal that deserves to be worked towards.

Writing to satisfy yourself is a way to ensure your writing is natural. This is good. You must learn to write what you are going to write. However, just writing for yourself as a goal is full of traps. Down that road lies complacency, the slow reinforcement of errors, and a kind of writing solipsism. Imagine the dregs of Fimfic writing to please only themselves. Actually, that's probably not far from the truth.

Write what you want to write, learn to love your writing without exterior validation, but first and foremost write to improve. We're all novices here, and we all should approach each fic as a journey, a lesson.
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>>106797
Hey GV. It’s been a while. Thank you for your review. I’m terribly sorry I didn’t get to respond immediately. You reviewed my fic while I was in Germany, and heaven forbid they should have a single wifi spot or a computer that isn’t older than my grandmother. Of course, being in the countryside for most of the trip probably didn’t help either.

Anyway, I’d still really like to respond, even after all this time. There are some things I’d like to talk to you about in regards to my review, and clear up some misunderstandings. I hope it’s not too late (judging from your harsh critique, there’s a good chance you wanted to forget it as soon as possible).

The first time I saw your review, I was thoroughly disheartened. I felt like giving up on this story. But then I read it again, and something began to take shape in the back of my mind. The third time, I realized what it was that was bothering me.

All of your review would have been a dead on assessment if this were the beginning to my story. But, while it is part of my story, it also isn’t. To prevent confusion, this is more what I mean. This is the prologue to my story. Now, while normally a prologue is more the introduction of a story, I was going for mine to be more of a premonition of future events; foreshadowing, if you will.

In essence, what I was going for here was the kind of opening that most mystery shows like CSI and NCIS have before the opening theme. It’s more to present an idea of mystery more than anything. The next chapter (which is chapter 1) zooms over to a completely different scenario in Ponyville. As you can see, the bridge between the two scenes is fairly large. One of my other reviewers, Khakispony, compared my opening to that of Michael Crichton’s The Andromeda Strain (which I am now reading). I know my opening isn’t as good as that is, but the concept is more or less the same.

Trust me, I know that what I have isn’t very important, nor does it follow any of the laid down rules of a normal narrative. Nothing of what I did could make a person actually feel for Stormcrasher, or the other characters, because I’m telling away all of his thoughts. But that’s the point; I don’t want them to feel anything for him. He isn’t going to appear again in my story for a very, very long time. There really is no time to introduce them, because frankly, they’re not important. What is important is the mystery in the second part of the prologue. I’m not sure if you’ve read that, seeing as you didn’t make any comments on the doc.

I have a feeling that, should I have submitted chapter 1 instead, your review would’ve been much kinder.

I’m sorry. I probably should’ve mentioned something like when I submitted it. I’m not sure if this changes your review or not. It might not, my fic might still be garbage, and you will still be right. Even if it doesn’t, I’d still like to hear back from you on this. Sorry if I come off as rude or arrogant. I really just wanted to show my stance on this.

A few other small things before I go.

I know that body motion is very important to characterize and move forward with a story. I also know that a lot of my prologue is purely telling. This is normally a big no no. However, in the case of my prologue, the character whose perspective the prologue is told from is in an isolated area. A small room, in a chair, with nopony else physically there. There isn’t much I can do in terms of body motion if I want to keep the perspective that I have.

I do agree with many parts of your review. I’ll admit, I could lighten up a bit on the telling, especially the less important parts. When I was writing this, I was actually trying to make sure that I was telling, in a way. I wanted to show the reader right off the bat Stormcrasher’s ideal Equestria, and then have it shattered later by the mystery. But, that was wrong of me, and I can do that with a lot less telling. Also, sob story part comes out right away.

There’s a question I have about my synopsis. You stated multiple times that it has absolutely nothing to do with what you read, and I completely agree. In fact, it really doesn’t apply to anything until a few chapters from now. What it does do is encompass the main idea of the story as a whole. In your opinion, should a synopsis include more on the beginning of a story, or the story as a whole?

Alright, that’s everything, I think. I hope I was able to get my point across somehow. Thanks again for your input.

Also, I’m going to be at your Livestream discussion tomorrow. Perhaps we could talk about this there, if you see this. Or email. Whatever works best for you.
>> No. 110794
>>110785
Hey Omniscient! I'd like to get back to you quickly, but I've got a fair number of reviews to get to first (damn my laziness).

BUT

If you would like, you can bother me about this on my Skype account. This actually goes true for anyone else—I'm online a lot of the time, so anytime one of you can catch me, I'm probably willing to help (mostly). My username is animeguy110.

Of course, email still works, but I've found that live chat is often much better for addressing specific points.

Looking forward to the Livestream tomorrow!
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>>109689

Been a while since this review has been here, I guess. Better to acknowledge it now rather than later.

>I fear that

Being a rough translation, I'll accept it. It really means 'That which I fear' with 'That' being implied.

>Synopsis reveals nothing of plot

Well, that's true. I really suck at coming up with synops and I tend to bother others and get them to make me one (damn me laziness). So I opted for using the prompt someone suggested I write about, and that was basically it. Nothing more, nothing less. I'll change it, but I just wanted to clarify it.

>Dash was passive

But of course! Ever see those scary parts in movies where the protagonist is beckoned to go down that creepy hallway or open the basement door? Yeah, I tried to emulate that feeling of curiosity. When a person gets curious, they tend to ignore their fears and find out what the heck is going on. Of course, sensible people would just get the fuck out of there, but when you're afraid and the fear is real, per say, then you don't really know what to do other than to find out what it is and eliminate it.

>Why is Dash running?
>What is that thing chasing her?
>Where is she, and why?
>Why does she think the monster is Pinkie?
>Was it all a dream?
>What's the skull, and why does it matter?

Let me answer ALL of those questions in one go, eh?

Peterpiperpickedapackofpickledpeppers.Ifpeterpiperpickedapackofpickledpippers,howmanypickledpeppersdidPeterPiperpick?

See how confusing it is? Love it or hate it (which in this case, you hate it), that was my point. Those were the questions I CHOSE not to answer. My reason: because they didn't need to be. While I know that I shouldn't underestimate or overestimate the reader, there are always those who choose to fill in the gaps as they go along. Was is all a dream? I don't know; you decide. What was the monster? You come up with that scary shit. Where is she and why? Fill that in.

I chose not to answer them because they didn't need to be answered. Of course, in a short fic one would very honestly expect EVERYTHING to resolve itself. I didn't like that, so I took the ambiguous approach.

>Told us of action

Someone hasn't read any modern novels lately, I see. Currently, the one I'm reading has instances of implied action, so it might still be my fault, but I'll double check just in case.

>Mechanics

Yes, yes. I already know that I have to streamline the fic. Continuing.

>didn't understand the plot of your fic in the slightest

What is there to not understand? Dash is getting chased by a monster that broke out of a mysterious chamber. That's pretty much it.

>It's perfectly possible to make a tense, suspenseful, and dark story even while the reader knows exactly what he/she is reading

Oh, I don't doubt it. I've seen it done greatly before. I've even tried my hand at it. You know what happened? It failed miserably. So that's the end of that.

Thanks, Golden, for the review. Feel free to contest anything I mentioned, as I'm willing to be corrected if I'm wrong.
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>>109486
Hi! Finally got through reviewing your fic (which really took me much longer than it should have), so let's get down to business, hm?

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:Title: Scribes are Weird
If this were a meme, I'd give this a 1/10: Would not read. It's nothing more than a random, "quirky" title meant to draw attention to the fic in question. It doesn't give any indicators of the story or characters itself, and just sounds cute and trite. In other words, this is not the title you want identifying your writing. Try again.

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Synopsis:
>Ghostwriter is Celestia's personal scribe, though he has doubts about his own skills.
This is Tell-y, but I suppose it's okay for an introductory sentence.

>Ponies may respect his position, but not him personally and he's sick of it.
This implies a different tone in respect to the previous sentence—"depression" versus "irritation." Is this an instance of "Man vs. Self" or "Man vs. Society"? Please pick one for simplicity.

>When Celestia sends him to Ponyville to transcribe the events involving the Elements of Harmony,
Okay; good establishment of setting, I suppose.

>Ghost sees it as a chance for a fresh start.
This would be okay, except it's not actually true (upon reading the fic).

>But when Ghost arrives, he has no idea what exploits the Elements of Harmony are always up to.
This is a crappy sentence, let alone an ending. At the very least, it's either grammatically incorrect, or else clunky enough to seem like it. It also feels like you're suddenly switching here to a whimsical, almost meta tone, which doesn't really work. Give us something directly relating to an overarching plot or motif, please (and only the latter if it's literal Slice(s) of Life).

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Characters: 1/5
Here's the easy-to-fix bit. I didn't like how you set up your character interactions. They felt too stilted, inorganic, and oftentimes, repetitive (especially during the introductory bits; "Hi Ghost, this is AJ/Rarity/etc.). I think you could have done a much better job handling your scenes with respect to characters as well. In the Sweet Apple Acres scene, for example, I had no idea of what AJ and Twilight were doing with respect to Ghost and Flare. I found different characters' actions utterly out of sync with one another, and you often would forget about a character (re: Flare), only to bring them back in when you suddenly remembered that they'd be good as the punchline of some joke, one thousand words later.

There were also many smaller things about your characters (such as the incessant "meme" of Flare and cake), but that wasn't the worst bit. That wasn't what cost you all these points.

No, your problem was that you had a Gary Stu.

Yes, I said it, motherbuckers. WHATCHA GONNA DO BOUT IT

Let's go down a little checklist, shall we? Your OC…

>Is depressed because he feels as though he can't do his job
>He apparently does his job perfectly well, and requires near-incessant encouragement by other characters just to remind us that he's actually good (re: amazing) at what he does.
>He's "socially awkward", yet has no problem communicating with ponies that he is able to impress easily
>He's only "awkward", in short, when you need him to be
>He has a special pet (Flare) that nobody has ever heard of—least of all Twilight, who is the reigning expert on all things Magical, due to being the respective Element and the personal protégé of Celestia
>He knows a special kind of magic only available to him (for now), which lets him do magic "better", and which Twilight is instantly impressed/amazed by

I could go on, but I won't. I will admit, of course, that this is far from the worse variation I have seen. He could be shooting lazorzbeams from his eyes, and owning n00bs every other minute. Yet there is something about him that just screams "Self-Insert." He's instantly accepted my the important character upon entering town, requires constant praise from those around him, and just happens to have access to a few wonderful toys that the canonical expert knows nothing of, let alone has herself. He's there for us to pity and egg on, but he's easily able to break out of his shell whenever the scene requires it. He's, in short, inconsistent and completely out of place.

Plot: 3/5
I didn't dock you too badly here, because it wasn't bad per se. I did not, however, get the feeling anything really going on, and after a while, each scene just started to either drag on or sound repetitive. You can literally sum up the AJ/Rarity scenes with, Ghost visits X of the Mane Six. Mane Six expresses something relating to their job. Ghost either gives or receives something from Mane Six. Ghost leaves immediately to resume "touring." I also thought that you could have put more focus on both Ghost's Canterlot life and the sudden need for a Harmony "Documentary"—why now? Why him?

Setting: 2/5
Body language, LUS, and SDT abounded. You need work here.

Mechanics: 3/5
I'm docking you here for clunky sentences, and all-too-common grammar and punctuation mistakes. Please proofread a tad more thoroughly next time.

Enjoyability: 1/5

Yep, I'm finally changing "Originality" to "Enjoyability." Took me damn well long enough, it did.

I guess the final question came down to: did I find this fic or its concept enjoyable enough to stand against the character flaws?

In short, no.

In long…

Stylistically, it felt far too Eastern in flavor. I felt often as though you were either writing a crossover or for an anime/manga fandom. The style was weird, and some of the little things that popped up (such as the, as I mentioned, memetic love of cakes by Flare) just felt far too anime-ish to fit with the feel of MLP. Keeping in mind, too, that MLP is above all based upon Greek mythology (seemingly so in this incarnation, anyway), the fact that you chose to insert a Japanese kitsune boggled my mind, especially once he started sounding more like a character out of Naruto or Dragonball Z than, say, Spike.

Many times, I really wanted a character to shut up and get moving, or else I couldn't understand why something was happening or was relevant (Ghost's new outfit being among the latter, for example). I kept on wanting to immerse myself in the fic, but I found that I just couldn't. Maybe it was just one too many things grating on me, but I couldn't bring myself to really like it. Change the character and the scenes around, and maybe I'll appreciate the concept.

Total: 10/25

Final Thoughts
There were a whole lot of places where this fic could have gone worse, but not too many. I wanted a story and characters that I could invest myself in (especially important for a Slice-of-Life story, such as this), and I didn't get it. Just keep on writing, and hopefully next time, you'll have something boatloads better.

Ready for EqD?: lolnope
Rewrite Recommended?: Pretty much.

Best of luck!
Golden Vision

PS: My Livestreamed Writer's Workshop is tomorrow afternoon, at 3 PM EST! You should all come! Post is
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Alright I understand your concerns and offer up this.

>Is depressed because he feels as though he can't do his job

Never meant for this to be a thing. See, I based Ghost off of my insecurities as an author. Ghost loves what he does, but he doesn't feel he's as good as everyone says he is.

>He apparently does his job perfectly well, and requires near-incessant encouragement by other characters just to remind us that he's actually good (re: amazing) at what he does.

Okay another unintentional thing. What i actually wanted wasn't pity. Ghost is never going to stop doing his thing because he loves it to much. Also i need to rephrase some things. I want Ghost to come off as great but not completely perfect.

>He's "socially awkward", yet has no problem communicating with ponies that he is able to impress easily
>He's only "awkward", in short, when you need him to be

Yeah, admittedly I need to change this. I want him to just not like people staring at him and i think i want it to be that Ghost is not socially outgoing. He can talk to people if you talk to him. He'll be a little shy at first.

>He has a special pet (Flare) that nobody has ever heard of—least of all Twilight, who is the reigning expert on all things Magical, due to being the respective Element and the personal protégé of Celestia

Sigh... I explained my reasoning for this. Kitsunes are myths. They don't live in Equestrian territory. (Least not after I change it just to make sure.) I highly doubt that that Twilight would research something she is never going to see. The way I see it, Twilight is very logical and would only study practical things.

>He knows a special kind of magic only available to him (for now), which lets him do magic "better", and which Twilight is instantly impressed/amazed by

... It's not better. It's actually inferior. Ghost even explains why it's not as good. It takes huge amounts of prep time, with some needing hours of work (Plan for the future) and can be very deadly if done wrong. (Ghost ends up blowing up the library with them in a plan I have)

All in all, valid gripes that I will work to change. I thank you for all your help. it's been a pleasure working with you.
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>>110836
If my previous post sounds like i didn't appreciate your work, i do. (Not sure if it does sound like that, but covering my but before the fires start.)

Anyway, I wanted to ask you a question. I'm currently reworking 'Scribes are Weird' (pending title, see, I listened.) and I was wondering if after I'm done, I could ask you to look over it again. Not as a review, but just a look to see if I addressed those issues you pointed out.

Sincerely Grateful,
Ghostwriter (A.k.a Cody)
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>>110836
D-damn. I will *definitely* be sending at least one story your way before I'm finished with this board. With that kind of critique, I could patch up nearly everything all at once. I overlooked you GV, my apologies. Although, your last thread was the first I clicked on when I got here back in April. I won't even mention the fic I submitted to four different queues.
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>>110147
Just letting you know I'm submitting to SLP's new thread cause I'm an impatient self-righteous douchebag or whatever.
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>>110959
Just in case you were planing on reviewing chapter two of my story, disregard it. I have to fix chapter one, then apply changes to chapter 2.

Also, your the only reviewer that has said my story was okay... curious...

Nah, your cool.
>> No. 110978
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>>110956
I'd be happy to take a resubmission of your fic (even if it's just for a quick onceover).

>>110959
Heh. I'm glad you like my reviewing style, then! You might want to wait until the queue clears up a bit, though.

>>110960
If anything, I should be apologizing to you and everyone else in my queue. I've really been a lazy bastard, huh?
>> No. 110984
>>109506
Hey, SLP! Things appear to be picking up in terms of my reviewing speed, so let's get started on taking your fic apart, hm?

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I'll give you a title/synop review here, seeing as I didn't last time.

Title:Let's Find You a Date
I really, really like this title. It's delightfully quirky, and hints to the whimsical nature of these "experiments" while at the same time exploring the idea of how a relationship between Rarity and Twilight might begin.

Synopsis:
>When Rarity finds out how little Twilight gets out of the Library, things get out of hand as she decides to take it upon herself to teach Twilight the ropes of dating.
Good. This is a nice, concise way of setting up your fic's premise.

>As Rarity drags her around, Twilight begins to have a good idea of who she wants to ask out.
Ooh, and you were doing so well! For starters, this is clunky, and what's more is that you don't do anything to even set up the Twirity (I honestly have no clue what this shipping is called) pairing. So, yeah. Do that.

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Characters: 4/5
If I'd had my way, you would have gotten a 5/5 here. I loved your characters, found Twilight and Carrot completely adorkable, loved Rarity's dialogue to death, and thought that everything was completely believable.

Exceeeeept for Spike.

In my opinion, he completely overreacted, and what's more is that Twilight did too-and to a problem that was resolved in S1, for goodness' sake! That segment really just lacked believability, once you got down to the basic premise. It was excellently done, but you really should change down what each character's reasoning is to make this scene(s) actually work.

Plot: 5/5
Excellent. You had good flow, I pretty much enjoyed every development, and it was overall a great read.

Setting: 5/5
Good body language, scene description, and so on. Not much to see here.

Mechanics: 4.5/5
A few awkwardly-phrased sentences, but nothing too shabby.

Enjoyability: Five out of motherfucking five
This was great. From every step of the way, from when I started reading, to the very last page, you had me captured and completely immersed. Your characterization was brilliant; your dialogue, well-developed; and your scenes generally thought-provoking and very emotive. Excellent, excellent work.

Total:23.5/25

Final Thoughts:
I don't really have much more to say about this fic. You'll see on the GDoc that I made maybe 10-20 comments on the whole 6k words. If this were my first [Shipping] fic (which it pretty much is), you may have just convinced me to give the entire genre a chance. Wunderbar.

Also, that Rarity picture for your OP completely fucking terrifies me, but that's neither here nor there.

Ready for EqD?: Take some time to fix up the Spike scenes, and spend maybe ten, fifteen minutes on working on the comments, and you'll hit the front page in no time.
Rewrite Recommended?: AHAHAHAHAHAHA

Excellent work, SLP. For once, I have to say that I can't wait for the next installment!

Best of luck,
Golden Vision
>> No. 110985
>>109554
Hi, Jake! Sorry for taking so long to get to this. I feel really bad, and I'd like to apologize to everyone who's had to wait so long in my queue.

Well, with that out of the way, let's begin, shall we?

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Characters: 5/5
Everything was in tip-top shape, here. Twilight was Twilight, Spike was Spike, and I even liked Shining Armor's letter-it made the story really feel as though there were a larger world out there, and as he's one of my favorite male characters, I'd only be happier if you ended up bringing him in later (not that I'm biased; nope nope).

I also especially enjoyed your OC. He was quirky, strange, and fast-talking. I got a good reading on him immediately, at least from Twilight's persepctive. I don't know why, but that kind of mysteriousness and subterfuge, all while hinting at something beneath the surface, really hooked me in to his character. Good job there!

Plot: 5/5
Liked this too. Well-written scenes, everything flowed nicely, etc.

Setting: 5/5
Well, just going down a checklist of no SDT/LUS/etc, you'd get a 5 regardless. But I also liked how you set up each scene, which was nice as well.

Mechanics: 4/5
You might want to watch a bit for stilted/repetitive sentences, but that's about it.

Enjoyability: 5/5
Obviously, I really enjoyed reading this. I think it's your best chapter yet! Let's hope that the next one is just as good, hm?


Total: 24/25

Final Thoughts:
Excellent, excellent work. I seem to be on a roll of good fics today. You've definitely hit your stride with this chapter, Jake, and I must once again applaud you for still continuing it, even in the face of so many setbacks. Just make sure to keep it going for the next installment, alright?

Ready for EqD?: As a standalone, I firmly believe that this chapter would be.
Rewrite Recommended?: Nope.

Just as a final thing that I forgot, I really liked how you handled Twilight's reaction to Berry Punch and the event. Nicely done.

Best of luck!
Golden Vision
>> No. 110986
To the writer of "Equestrian Century Alicorn Gundam," you never posted on this thread, and what's more, the GDoc appears to have been placed in your Trash. So, I'm going to hold off on reviewing it until such a time as you reply to this post, mmk?
>> No. 111001
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>>110978
Hey GV. How's life? Anyway, I think I fixed most of the issues from last time. So If your willing, a quick once over would be nice.

Title: Scribes are Weird. (Pending Title. I'm not quite sure what else to call it.)

Tags: Adventure, Slice of Life. (Wanted to ask about this. Would it be considered Slice of life? The first three chapters are the only ones with a concrete connection. After that, the story is going to delve into oneshot adventures concerning Ghost and the Mane six.)

Characters: refer to queue

Word Count:7237

Synopsis:Ghostwriter is Celestia's personal scribe, a humble position he loves, but has gripes about. Ponies may respect his position, but not him personally and he's sick of it. When Celestia sends him to Ponyville to interview the Elements of Harmony’s wielders, Ghost just hopes it’s better than that ‘City of Fakers’. But between explosions, pirates, and rock farms, Ghost will find himself on more oddball adventures than he can count. (Changed it.)

Link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YdbTwDIFhE4FJxe3qnXVe5-3M-2V6F-C4wbqnwbroTA/edit
>> No. 111023
Title: HAND
Author: XiF
Tags: Random, Comedy, Adventure
Characters: Lyra, Bon Bon, Colgate
Word Count: 3897
Summary: Lyra Heartstrings, a pony with a little more than fanatical interest in humans, goes on a journey spanning across Equestria following a highly dubious clue. Also, Bon-Bon tags along.
Link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nmAjyFFHU0yQz04AYXAAwIh-Lb8gSVHlGVloM6WbLJk/edit?pli=1
>> No. 111026
I’m not sure if you ever read the Foundation Trilogy, Golden Vision. If you have, then it could definitely help you while grading this story. If you haven't, then I recommend you read it. (Not that it's required for your understanding; I recommend the Foundation Trilogy to just about everyone—even if they aren't big fans of sci-fi)

I don’t expect to score high for originality, because the prologue kind of follows the sequence-of-events in the first part of Foundation. I suppose I kept it that way for familiarity and nostalgia. I did use/morph some important terms/names, but it really wouldn't have been a Foundation crossover had I not done so. In future chapters, I will be using different plot elements and heading down entirely different paths, making this more of a re-imagining.

Anyway, I'll stop babbling. Here is the prologue to what may become a very, very long crossover fan-fiction.

Title: Foundation and Equestria
Author: Spatial Observer
Tags: [Sci-Fi] [Crossover]
Word Count: 13,809
Characters: Mrs. Sparkle, Mr. Sparkle, OC, Celestia, Luna
Synopsis:
The Equestrian Empire will fall.

Those are the words of Hari Stabledon—the first and greatest psychohistorian. For he has applied his science to galactic society and, in doing so, has seen the truth. The mighty Empire, which has stood for over twelve millenia, will regress, break up and succumb to chaos. Lacking unified leadership, twenty-five million equine worlds will turn against each other, unleashing a dark age without foreseeable end.

Skepticism over Stabledon’s findings leads him to be targeted. His predictions have placed not only him, but also his large group of followers in jeopardy, setting them on a millennium-long path that will change the future forever—a path that must be traversed if harmony is to survive.

Link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EJ58WweCWfE7tUozEhD4FtTbxWbKMfqZukaAnJ-rL8Y/edit

Special thanks to my friend, Cadderly Illuvatar, for finally getting around to editing this after nearly two months of putting it off.
>> No. 111031
Title: Written In Stone or In Sand
Author Name: PonyponyX
Tags: Human, Adventure (???), Slice-of-Life (Later on)
Link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u-igR2jHHpsPMtxIU7EhvGKtWif-_lI-vEMtydkrBP4/edit
Characters: OCs.
Word Count: 2743
Synopsis: Have you ever woken up in the morning somewhere you don't remember going? Maybe, if you've had too much to drink.

When you wake up somewhere unfamiliar that couldn't even be in the same country, well, that sucks. Losing everything you had, and more importantly, everything you were... That's just the cherry on top. After that, how much more can you give when it's needed? Can you recover at all? That's a good question.

Wish I knew how to answer.

[ HiE. In the vein of Suomibrony's First Pony View - i.e., a more psychological look at the situation. Tagged Adventure because I don't know how else to describe the situation. The as-yet-unwritten second chapter will provide a twist. ]
>> No. 111043
If you could spare me the time, I'd be grateful if you could take a look.

Title: The Sky Whispers
Author: Plaidface
Tags: Adventure, Dark, Sad
Characters: OC. Alicorn Sisters
Word Count: 7300
Link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dqmTtvFhSB3iI7MXwrrJAC73CUpwArNs2sTo73I62Co/edit
>> No. 111044
>>111043
Sorry, forgot the synopsis.


Why are there hardly any earth ponies among the royal guards? Blessed with neither wing nor magic, earth ponies seem to play a somewhat marginalized role in modern Equestrian society. Though some rise to prominence as pop culture icons, most find themselves in agricultural or menial blue collar positions.

Yet 1,000 years before FiM, in a time before Princess Celestia or Luna, earth ponies were the preeminent power of Equestria. Their vast armies reigned supreme on land, and their mighty airship fleets dominated the skies. After six years of bloody war, earth ponies were on the brink of total victory against the unicorn and pegasi.

This story chronicles the fall of the ancient earth pony civilizations, seen from the eyes of a fighter pilot caught in the middle of Equestria’s final war.
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>>111001
>>111023
>>111026
>>111031
>>111043

Finish two reviews; SIX more pop up.

I fucking hate you all.

Just kidding. I'll try and get through two, maybe three reviews today, and then we'll go from there. For you new people, to the queueueueue.
>> No. 111412
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I'm very, very sorry, but you won't be receiving a full review from me. There are several reasons, but the foremost among them is that there is no way (in my mind) that your fic could possibly survive as it now exists. That is, there is no way to improve it without uprooting it completely.

Allow me to expound upon this, so I don't appear to be dismissing things without cause.

A primary issue that you attempted to actually use as a stylistic tool was a contrast between past and present tense. Better authors than you or I have tried this, and failed. Do not attempt something like this if there is no point in doing so.

There were many basic, elementary errors that I spotted, among them Show, Don't Tell, a lack of Body Language, and a complete absence of any scenes or linearity whatsoever. Then again, this was likely intentional, to which I can only raise my finger and "tsp" in disappointment.

In short, your fic made little sense as a whole, or even put into parts, had no lasting impact, no buildup, and above all, no interesting characters. It was 3.5k words wasted.

Note what I have not said, and therefore implied.

Your concept, meanwhile, is sound.

In fact, here is what I recommend: do not, as you do here, attempt to create an anachronistic retelling of five stories altogether. Rather, start at the beginning, and tell your story like any other narrative. Show us Celestia as she moves away from Luna, and toward becoming the Solar Monarch. Show us Twilight, and her early years with her mentor. Show us the final choice that Celestia must make (while keeping from the plot hole that is the unavoidability of needing the Elements against NMM), and then continue from there—but in the Timeline Gone Wrong.

Give us the growth of the Magi. There is nothing worse than a story of one of the Fallen, who once was so full of light and potential, but descends slowly, and before our eyes. Give your story depth and emotional weight; a real plot, rather than a narrative that attempts to draw us in with cheap stylistic tricks. Then, at the end, give us you climax, in which the Magi is defeated by a foreshadowed, yet previously unknown alternate self. It will be the ultimate tragedy.

I would suggest making the divergence of the timelines a spell, though. Merely introduce the idea of parallel timelines or quantum worlds at some point occurring naturally, and you should be fine.

So, in short, give us a story. Give us an epic, and a tragedy of the highest caliber. It may take time, and it will certainly take effort. But this oneshot as it stands, I believe, represents nothing close to what you as the author is capable of producing.

Best of luck to you, my good sir.
Golden Vision
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Just quick note, but seeing as my queue is now backed up with eight fics...

THE QUEUE IS CLOSED!.

My apologies, but it might take some time for me to work through all of these. I plan to give each my utmost attention, and do hope not to force other authors to wait unnecessarily. I intend to get to every single fic in my queue that I can in as timely a manner as is possible. Thank you.
>> No. 111423
>>111415
Thank you sir.
>> No. 111441
>>111415 Hello Golden Vision!

Before you dismiss this message, the fic I am asking you to review is already in your que. However, I realize that I failed to post the request in this thread as well (my apologies for this oversight), and I would like to correct this.

So, here is the information:

[Title] From the Mouths of Fillies
[Author] Comma-Kazie
[Tags] Sad
[Characters] Dinky Doo, Ditzy Doo, Rainbow Dash
[Word Count] 3037 words
[Synopsis] Not everything is as it seems when Dinky visits her mother in the hospital.
[Link] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c-EbYZHvtDFo8CfWLDunSplPB1LqM1G5YcgCW9iIv2A/edit

Again, I apologize for failing to post this information with my initial request.

Regards,

Comma-Kazie
>> No. 111444
>>111412
This is a much clearer explanation of why the story doesn't work than the one I got from my pre-reader. It was never my intention to try and tell an epic story spanning a thousand years in only three thousand words, but like it or not that's what the plot of my anti-Twiliestia statement became. You've been able to show me a nice clean line to tell the story in a linear way that I wasn't able to see for myself (never thought of just ignoring the 'real' timeline), so now I'm actually considering (re)writing this as a long epic that tells of Twilight's corruption and transformation into The Magi. If I do that, you can be sure I'll be looking back here for a deconstruction.

Thank you for your time.
>> No. 111469
>>111441
Very well. *grumbles* You're all set.

>>111444
It's responses like these that really make me happy to be a reviewer. I'm glad to have helped you, and wish you the best of luck in rewriting this.

Also, I just noticed a typo in my post. I wanted you to remove the "spell causes the timelines" bit, not reinforce it. My bad.
>> No. 111480
>>109637
Hi there! Unfortunately, I can't review your fic until you supply me with a proper GDoc (not a docx) which I can properly comment on. Thanks!
>> No. 111482
How exactly do I submit my story to your queue?
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>>111482
Try reading the thread.

Hint, hint: It's in the OP, but what's more, the queue is closed. Thank you.
>> No. 111486
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>>110147
Hey, Khakis! Let's do this!

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Title: Pop Culture
Not bad. It's a relevant name, no doubt about that, but it also hints to the "society" that Sweetie will have to deal with in her time, if she's to become a star.

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Synopsis:

>Sapphire Shores returns to Rarity's boutique to thank her for the most comfortable, fashionable stage wear she's every had. While there, she overhears Sweetie Belle singing, and decides her voice is sensational . Logically, she offers Sweetie a recording deal. Sweetie accepts, and moves to Canterlot to learn the art of being a pop starlet, with all the ups and downs it brings.
I'm not even going to do a line-by-line. In fact, I suggest you redo this. A synopsis should not be a compact version of your first chapter. It should be a hook; a description of the themes and general plot that will pervade your story. It should hint at background, the characters, and over all else, the conflict.

So try again.

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Characters: 2/5
You only didn't get a 1/5 because there wasn't really a point at which any given character was OOC. However, they never felt quite IC, either.

Here's an example: Sapphire Shores, being a classy pop star, has her own vernacular or style of speaking. Her dialogue in your fic, though, was basically unidentifiable from Rarity's. Give us her speaking patterns; make her unique. In the meantime, Sweetie Belle shouldn't just be parroting whatever other ponies say, and occasionally erupting in excitement—she's the main character! Characterize her, please!

Plot: 1/5
I despise saying this (because I am, and should be, a simple reviewer and not a replacement author), but there were so many things in this fic that I think were either handled wrongly, or that should be redone entirely.

Let's start with something simple: the opening scene. Now, the way you did it, Rarity praised Sweetie, Sapphire walks in, Sapphire hears Sweetie Belle, and she goes to offer her a career.

All in, oh, 1.5k words? Maybe fewer?

First off, this all happens far too quickly. It would be insane to think that even a pop star would walk into a boutique and give a young child a new career on a whim. Though it'd be crazier to assume that she would actually stay interested. Something you could do, then would be to extend this—have Sapphire Shores walk into the boutique, have her run into Sweetie Belle, singing, and have her consider it for a while. Have her meet up with Rarity occasionally, and finally work up the nerve and circumstance to ask Rarity if Sweetie might be interested in a recording deal. Heck, bring her parents into it—they're her freaking parents! Last I checked, Rarity was not Sweetie Belle's guardian.

Random note, but the "reveal" with the "antagonist" at the end really had no effect on me. I didn't understand it, and couldn't really care less.

Overall, I felt like everything was too rushed and abrupt, without much (if anything at all) to set it up. Sweetie never had to work for anything; there was never any conflict, and it just didn't feel quite real to me. That was a major problem.

Setting: 2/5
You had some body language and avoided LUS (for the most part). But there was far more you could have done—for instance, avoiding all those instances of SDT that I marked out to you. Furthermore, your scenes in general felt rushed, incoherent, and generally awkward in terms of flow. They felt stilted to me, almost; everything felt predictable and plasticky.

Your transitions, both in-scene and inter-scene, were missing. I often felt, during one scene or character interaction, that I was watching emotions and mood flip-flop across a wide spectrum of inconsistencies. Your body language needed to stay constant on one character's mindset, in order to develop a shifting attitude, rather than changing immediately. This ties into Plot as well; your scenes, instead of melding into one another, sometimes felt like jarring shifts to the reader.

Just a note, but often, I would argue that you chose the wrong way to develop your scenes. For example, when we take those first steps into Def Equestrian, it should be a mind shattering moment—this is when Sweetie Belle and the reader effectively change worlds entirely. From this point on, everything is new, different, and fresh. Think of it as a scene in a movie where the talented protagonist, after living on the streets for most of their life, is set up by their agent at the Ritz Hotel. Make this scene resonate with us; make it important. Make us remember that initial scene, so that you can remind us later that things aren't always as beautiful and pure as they seem.

Finally, don't use so many speaking verbs; you're using them literally every time a character opens their mouths. Instead, only use them sparingly, or to set a specific tone. If you place relevant body language in or around that dialogue, then we can imply the mood and speaker ourselves, without needing that extra bit.

Mechanics: 2/5
Far too many mess-ups, typos, and so on. Do proofread better next time.

Enjoyability: 1/5
I really just couldn't get into this. So many of the scenes felt weird, or pointless, or just strange. The Vinyl'Octavia scene, for example, was just blatant fanservice. That bit with the rapper really didn't develop anything setting or character-wise, and the "bad guy" (whatever his name was) was just a whiny little bitch that I didn't care about at all. The believability factor really hurt things as well. I could just feel the different ways in which you could have done this, but didn't, buzzing in the back of my head. Now, most of the time, those don't exist (I try to respect the author's choices as much as possible), but the fact that those little murmurs wouldn't go away during your fic is worrying.

Total: 8/25

Final Thoughts:
I just want to get this off of my chest: I like the concept. I'm not suggesting by any means that you trash the story as a whole.

Now, you mentioned in the GDoc chat that you've had some contrasting reviews. And that's fine. Ultimately, the choice of how to proofread this is up to you. But just try to consider what I've said above. I've put some honest effort into this, and I really want to see your story, as Sapphire Shores would put it, "Shine above the rest."

Ready for EqD?: Nope.
Rewrite Recommended?: For the most part, yes, though on a scene-by-scene basis.

Best of luck,
Golden Vision
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>>111486
I like just urrrrrrrrrrggggggggg (pic related). Honestly how can I be eqd ready by one reviewer and need to be rewritten to another. This story is killing me. Its good, its bad, its a masterpiece, its shit. This was so much easier when the polls were generally negative. I feel like I need to write two stories at this point. So lets see: perfect, needs work, all in all good, excellent and enjoyable, crap, mechanical errors. I'm going to smash my face in. Thanks for the help though at this point its really killing me.
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>>111488

A lot of people don't like to admit it, but reviewer bias does exist. Not in the context that one thinks it does, however. I choose to view it as 'reviewers are still readers.' Not every reader will like your story, nor will every reviewer.

In the end, just write what you feel you need to write, not what others say you have to.
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>>111490
Reviewers ARE biased, no matter what context you say, and the reason for this is because like you said, they are still readers. Everyone will have their own biased no matter how much they try to be 'neutral' on an issue. It's only because we're humans with our own personalities, experiences and preferences. The only way we can get around this is to try to APPEAL to the masses if we want our work to be SHOWN to the masses.

The problem being that people think reviewers or trying to be biased, and that they review with a purposeful biased opinion for the sake of upholding whatever THEY want, and not what should be neutral. When in reality this is not the case.

I'll stop derailing now.
>> No. 111522
>>111469 Thanks, I appreciate ya cutting me some slack with that.
>> No. 111528
>>111480
OK, got it. I'm not quite sure I understand, since I already checked and it was "edit-able" using the "edit" button, and the option came up to add comments.... and it was already public to everyone. But I think I figured out how to change the format. Here you are:

http://goo.gl/sZOiK

Do I have to wait until you are done with the queue now? Or will you slide me back in next? You have no idea how nervous/excited/generally freaking out I've been for this review; how excited I was when I heard mine was next, and then how crushed when I saw you skipped it...
>> No. 111532
>>111528

You left your document open to editing for everyone. Don't do that. Only set it so that everyone can comment, not edit.
>> No. 111534
>>111532
I'm sorry, I don't really know my way around Google Docs that well. The default format was OK with a lot of other people. Do I have to go fix it again, or is it OK now?
>> No. 111537
>>111534

It's good now. Just didn't want some meanie anon to come by and delete your story because they have nothing better to do. :D

I read your story and liked it.
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>>111521

To end this derail on a glad note, please don't take this as an offense. In essence, you agreed with me. Hell, you said it better than I could have said it myself.
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>>111488
Okay after much deliberation and by that I mean a slow day at work I've decided to make a separate edit that will slow down everything and hopefully add something to the fic that you feel is missing. If you're interested I'd like you to look but not necessarily review it to see if its a step in the right direction. Sound good?
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>>111564
Sure! You got it.
>> No. 111588
You review so much that you don't produce new stories. I want to be able to hate you, but I can't since you're doing something good for the community.

Carry on, I think. Probably. But also write more.
>> No. 112087
Testing
>> No. 112088
>>112087
Son of a b- password system!

Anyways, sorry. Just wanted to inquire on the progress of reviewing, as it's been a while since I've seen this thread update.
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>>109637
'Ello! Shall we prepare to CLEAR ZE QUEUE?

Ahem.

THE QUEUE IS STILL CLOSED.

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Title: Dreams of a Perfect Day
I like it. Simple, contains a reference to canon, and sets up a nice little motif for Chrysalis and her eventual resignation to what will not and never can be, be a perfect day.

Synopsis:
Okay. There's one big problem with your synop—or rather, the biggest problem is that you fall into every pit trap within a synopsis at once.

For starters, a definition:
>Changelings. They are creatures who feed on love.

Next, something actually intriguing, but which kind of falls flat:
>They feed off of the feelings that ponies hold most dear, but they cannot feel them themselves.

Then, a rhetorical question (nopenopenopenope):
>Or can they?

And, finally, a single tagline for your main character, and some of her plot:
>One little princess is determined to find out.

The bottom line is, mechanically, at least, this is fine. It's got some sound ideas for what you might want to get across in a synop as well. But stylistically, it's crap.

Here's a revision that I might do:

>A princess of the changelings soon learns the difference between prey and family. Chrysalis has known for all her life that her people feed upon love, but cannot feel it for themselves. But when she tires of the endless cycle of feeding and lying, she must decide if she wants to feel that adoration, even if it comes with the price of a mask. Either she will love another, or she will love none at all.

It's almost literally exactly what you wrote (with a few things added to reflect upon symbols within the story), but rephrased to seem more pleasing to the eye.

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Characters: 3/5
Overall, good. I enjoyed your characterization of Smart Cookie and Chrysalis. That said, I think you could have spent more time developing Chrysalis's relationships with both her family, and highlighting the awkwardness of her time with her "lover." I wanted more scenes, and more in-depth scenes, describing interpersonal relationships.

Plot: 2/5
I appreciated how things developed, but I definitely wanted more. More scenes, more development, and overall, more story. This definitely felt rushed in certain parts (such as the buildup to Chrysalis's reveal, and her "return" to town), and I couldn't really enjoy it as much as I wanted. I especially wanted you to palce more focus on Chrysalis's inner conflict between genuine love and "food," and her slow realization that she really is nothing more than a self-obsessed predator. It felt too sudden; too unclear.

Setting: 4/5
G'job. You have the occasional LUS or SDT, but nothing too offending. You might want to add some more body language into your dialogue, though.

Mechanics: 5/5
Nice work here.

Enjoyability: 3/5
I actually did like this quite a bit. I liked it conceptually, and I will admit that I did want to see where it went. However, I was prevented from fully immersing myself by awkward, rushed scenes, and other similar issues. You only skimmed the surface of where you needed to go with this, when there was so much more you could/should have developed.

Total: 17/25

Final Thoughts:
All in all, this was a decent fic. It wasn't amazing or anything, but it definitely has the potential to get there, should you develop and expand upon it enough. Should you take my recommendations into consideration, I certainly look forward to the next revision.

Ready for EqD?: No.
Rewrite Recommended?: Not at all.

Best of luck!
Golden Vision
>> No. 112151
>>112135
Thank you so much your your time and attention to my story! You actually had a lot of the same comments about it that my boyfriend did, so I'm not terribly surprised by what you're saying. The truth is, the idea wouldn't leave me alone and kept me from sleeping, so I wrote it from like 2am-7am on very little sleep. Re-reading it myself, I agree whole-heartedly with everything you said.

I guess I'll add more scenes and descriptions, and change my synopsis. I'm not going to steal yours, but I'm definitely going to rework mine completely.

I'll resubmit it to you when I'm done with the revision, if you like. I'm just glad I don't have to rewrite what I already have! I think I already know a bunch of places where more can be added, and I have a good feeling about this revision! Thank you so much for your help!
>> No. 112154
>>112151
Oops, sorry about double-posting; I forgot to check the actual document for comments, sorry.
Thank you so much, you definitely helped me see EXACTLY what scenes needed to be expanded. I have one question, and admittedly, it's a pretty simple one: I dunno what those weird craters on the changelings' hooves are, so I went with "hoof rings." You didn't seem to like that on the comments. Do you have a better suggestion?
>> No. 112183
>>112154
Hm...instead of "hoof rings," you might just go with "leg holes." That way, it's much more obvious what you're referring to.
>> No. 112221
>>111441
LET'S DO THIS.

YEAAHHHHHH

...

Wait, on second thought, let's not. I have two words for you:

Fuck you.

Fuck you, author, and that pony you rode in on. Fuck you and damn you to Tartarus.

Why? Read on.

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Title: From the Mouths of Fillies
Good. Nice and simple.

Synopsis:
I'm not even going to do a line-by-line for this, because it's barely even a synopsis. It's one sentence, and the kind of thing that you might find on the one-line, truncated fimfiction summary entry. Do more with this; develop the characters, the conflict, and your overall theme of childhood naivete.

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Characters: 4/5
Incredible, for the most part. At first I questioned your stylistic decision in making Dinky such an intrusive narrator, but by the end, I knew why. This really was impressive, and defined what you meant by "from the mouths of fillies."

My major problem was this. I liked RD well enough, and I'm fine with you not spending much time on the other Mane Six- as a filly, Dinky wouldn't be very interested in them anyway. However, there was one character that I saw almost nothing of.

Can you guess who? Hint: it's the second most important character in this fic.

Yep. It's Derpy.

I wanted more. I wanted to see Dinky interacting with her mother more, and I needed that in order to make the ending that much more poignant. I think you could accomplish this by adding in a scene at the beginning where Derpy's playing with Dinky or something, but faints and has to go to the hospital. That way, you segue both into the setting and the character relationships rather nicely.

Plot: 4/5
Again, losing points here for missing a scene that you really did need. Otherwise, good job.

Setting: 3/5
You did a good job with body language and transitioning where it was needed, and SDT is inherently hard to avoid (and not as bad) in first person. However, you had a huge problem: your tense.

Your sense of tense was all over the place. Occasionally, Dinky would say something like, "We've been hanging out with Rainbow Dash," but then say, "I got to visit Mommy every day." If it's still ongoing (at the time of narration), then it's present. Go over this with a fine-toothed comb, and fix every one of those tense mistakes.

Mechanics: 5/5
Nothing to see here; herp, derp.

Enjoyability: 5/5

FUCK YOU WHY CAN'T I HOLD ALL THESE FEELS?

I was goddam crying (or at least sobbing quietly, in a manly manner) by the ending. Hell, the waterworks started up halfway through, and Derpy wasn't even dead yet! God. You're such a heartless bastard.

But I'll be damned if it wasn't damn good writing, overall. Immersive, lighthearted, and with suckerpunches at all the right moments to make you double over with tears. Well done.

Total: 21/25

Final Thoughts:
I suppose it's now obvious why I was flipping you off earlier. LS told me he wasn't impressed with an earlier version of this fic, but wow; you definitely improved it (judging by the differences between our reactions). Admittedly, I'm a total pansy who'll cry at the drop of a hat, but still!

Good work, sir. I tip my hat to you. Fix those mechanical/setting tense issues, add in a Derpy scene at the beginning and maybe develop her a bit more throughout, and you'll be golden.

Ready for EqD?: Quite close.
Rewrite Recommended?: HAHAHAHAHA

Best of luck,
Golden Vision
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G.V! Your good with synopsis, right? Think you could help me real quick? I got this one and i just can't seem to get it right. The story is essentualy a pseudo-dbz version of the final fight with Discord. (I was watching a lot of DBZ Abridged at time of writing.) Any way i would love your help if you got the time?
>> No. 112408
>>112221

To Golden Vision:

MOO-hahahaha! Okay, I really shouldn't laugh about killing Derpy, but your initial reaction pretty much begged it. I'm a heartless, heartless bastard, but I'm glad you think I tell a good story.

I'll work on fleshing out the synopsis a little more, but ultimately that's one for the backburner. The real kicker is the embarrassingly inconsistent tense you pointed out--I cannot BELIEVE I missed that. Fortunately it'll be a quick fix.

Regarding your character/plot analysis, I agree with you to some extent; I'll take it up with my editors about how to fit in another scene with Derpy, though I'm actually working on another fic leading up to the events of "From the Mouths of Fillies." (I may bug you to review it as well later down the road.)

Overall, I'm glad you enjoyed this story (or as much as one can given the topic), and I appreciate you taking the time and effort to help me polish it up.

Thank ya!

Comma-Kazie
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>>112379
Well, I dunno. Lemme—

Never mind. That picture... It's staring into my soul! GAH.

Note that for any of you who want to contact me, such as Ghostwriter here, my Skype is animeguy110. If you don't have a Skype, then just email me.

>>112408
GET TO WORK, MR SQUIDWARD!
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>>112420
Sorry for the soul stealing pic. Here, have another.

So your email is what?
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>>112421
CLEEK TEH NAME YOU FOOLZOR.
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whoops, sorry. I'm not too smart.
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>>112420

First chapter is ready for review! I just need *someone* to open their que back up.....
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>>111001
As per usual for resubmissions, I'm not doing a full commentary or expanded review for this. However, I will point out things that you corrected, and things you still need to work on.

For starters, there was still quite a lot of Telling, especially when in an expositional context. Stuff like:
>Ghostwriter worked as a scribe serving directly under the Princess.
Should be Showed to us, even if through dialogue ("How's the Royal Scribe doing tonight?") or action.

Things like:
>Ghost quickly realized what he said.
Are also Telling. Using body language instead to develop this would be infinitely better, especially as we can imply this through his next bit of dialogue anyway.

I'm actually noting this down as I read, and—

Wait.

/scrolls back up and rereads a section

You couldn't have…

…No way.

As far as I can see, you literally changed everything that I pointed out specifically in comments, and nothing else. Flare and runes are still there in the exact same context, all of Ghostwriter's irritating quirks (I still don't like 'foxtrot," and inconsistency of character is still bad) remain a problem. The style is still far too Eastern, you still have SDT abounding (though, I guess, not from where I pointed it out), and you didn't change a single scene from what I recommended.

I do full reviews as well as line-by-line Doc commentary, Ghostwriter. It's possible to not need to make a single comment, but have a scathing review. I was expecting a complete revision—maybe even a full rewrite—and instead I got the exact same thing, perhaps with a little less LUS, and a bit less emo.

You didn't even change the title.

I'm not going to review this again unless I can be assured that you've looked at my previous review and taken as much of it into account as possible. If you disagree with it, then fine. Just don't resubmit to my queue. I will appreciate actual effort, and next time, if you wish to try your luck again, then by all means.

Protip: Generally, revisions take longer than, oh two days to complete.

Best of luck,
Golden Vision
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>>112519
hmm... how is his character inconsistent? I was pretty sure I fixed all the emo comments. Starting to really hate SDT. As for the name... i said i was working on it, the title's pending until I can come up with a new one. I really did take the things you said into account. I put used Flare consistently, I positioned characters better in scenes, I put dialogue leading up to exposition, and for the runes and Flare thing... Really tired of having to say this... EXPERT DOES NOT MEAN SHE KNOWS EVERYTHING. If it's not in a book that she would read, she's not gonna know about it. For rune magic, a perfect example is the time spells.Twilight is still learning so she doesn't know everything about magic. Twilight's my favorite character but why am I the only one that thinks she can be clueless about something.

Look, I really did take everything you said into account. I had your review open so I could look at it and address the concerns. I'm sorry I may have offended you, but could you at least go over my synopsis?
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>>112529
>How is his character inconsistent?
Ghostwriter never stays the same emotion for long. He'll be depressed one moment, and smirking two lines later. He'll be outgoing, and then immediately forget about it. Either he's the most bipolar character I've ever seen, or you need to fix that.

>why am I the only one that thinks she can be clueless about something.
One thing is (somewhat) fine. But two things, and in areas that specifically make your character look good? I'm not even going to say anything.

Bottom line is: if you want to use my thoughts, then feel free. If not, then it's your choice. I won't be offended. But if you want to know why I'm irritated, it's because I specifically put Rewrite Recommended at the end of the last review, and I got a slightly modified earlier edition instead.

If you still want, I'll email you back on that synopsis you asked for help with. Just a thought, but you might want to try and stick with one project at a time, at least while your writing has as many issues as myself and other reviewers seem to be pointing out. You've got how many circulating now—three? Four? Pick one that you really want to make the best it can be, and don't hesitate to tear it to shreds to make something worthwhile, if need be.

Good day to you, sir.
-GV
>> No. 112539
>>112537
>Ghostwriter never stays the same emotion for long. He'll be depressed one moment, and smirking two lines later. He'll be outgoing, and then immediately forget about it. Either he's the most bipolar character I've ever seen, or you need to fix that.

But I thought I fixed all that.
>> No. 112541
>>112539
also yeah on the email. I basically wrote those while I was waiting for reviews. Gave me something to do.
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Hey there GV, you do editing right? Or maybe a full review would be better. I just finished this earlier today. It’s sitting in Applejinx’s thread right now, but hopefully he won’t be too long with it.
Title: Showmare (working title)
Author: Bleeding Rain!DROPS
Tags: I’m actually not sure, but I think [sad][Slice of Life]
Characters: Trixie, Twilight, Applejack, Pinkie Pie, Rarity.
Wordcount: 4,616
Synopsis: (still working on that) Homeless and struggling to survive, Trixie returns to Ponyville two years after losing everything to the Ursa.
Link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/17XJeELnpIFBDyouSpbaTrbTq4V2oWi76hb2LYSpQsAo/edit
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>>112604
>queue closed
>y u no read thread
>RAAAAAAAAGH
>> No. 112651
>>112641
Probably because I've listed you as open in the sticky list. Whoops. My bad.
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>>112641
Whoops, sorry GV.

I did try to read the thread though. I scrolled up for at least 20 or so posts, I guess I just didn't go far enough. Well this gives me more time to fix all the stuff Applejinx found anyway.
>> No. 112663
>>111026
Uh... I feel a little embarrassed, GV. In the description,"Millenia" should be "Millennia" or "Millenniums". I probably should have double-checked the spelling of that earlier. I just want to say this before you point it out.
>> No. 112792
>>111023
THE QUEUE IS STILL CLOSED

[spoiler]But only four more to go! ^_^[spoiler]
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Title: HAND
Um. Well. I guess this could be an interesting title. Except I had no context for it whatsoever.

Is HAND an artifact of sorts? An organization? An acronym for something entirely unrelated? At the very least, you should be hinting at some of these things in the first chapter. Otherwise. this makes no sense.

Synopsis:
>Lyra Heartstrings,
Okay, here's our protagonist.

>a pony with a little more than fanatical interest in humans,
Nope. We already know who Lyra is, and what she likes. You could put more effort at the beginning to reflect this, though- Showing through scene description rather than Telling with a synopsis.

>goes on a journey spanning across Equestria following a highly dubious clue.
There are many ways you can rephrase this to make it sound better. For example,

>When Lyra Heartstrings discovers a clue hinting at the existence of humans, she will find herself facing a journey spanning across all of Equestria, in order to prove the validity of this potentially dubious information.

>Also, Bon-Bon tags along.
This sounds so tacked-on that it isn't even funny. Try:

>She'll be dragging Bon Bon along-whether she wants to come or not-every step of the way.

That way, we get a much better feel for what's going on, and how the characters will be interacting.
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Characters: 2/5
I got almost no feel for any of the characters here. Lyra didn't stand out to me (she felt horribly inconsistent), Bon Bon wasn't very interesting as an annoyed roommate (which you didn't really develop; she just had a few snarky oneliners), and Colgate just felt...not interesting at all. You had personalities, I suppose, but no real characters.

Plot: 1/5
I'll be honest. I had no idea what they were doing or why. I have no clue why Lyra was afraid of being caught on the computer, or why she suddenly became obsessed with HAND (a throwaway line in a help desk chat), or what, exactly, they were trying to do and why. I found myself entirely lost, both conceptually and intellectually, no less than a third of the way through reading the story. I wanted to know what exactly was happening, why it was happening, and how that affected the characters and the situation. I got nothing.

Setting: 2/5
You could definitely do a much better job of setting and expanding upon scenes. The same goes for characters; you used almost no body language, instead relying nearly entirely on the clunky and unprofessional "varied" speaking verbs (exclaimed, repeated, etc), along with adverbs, in a vain attempt to convey tone of some kind. Body language is your FRIEND. Don't forget, too, that you can't just use one throwaway sentence to describe part of a scene; you either develop a scene entirely (e.g. "Bon Bon pushes her way through the crowd") or you cut it out entirely. One or the other.

Mechanics: 4/5
Good for the most part, though you had some issues with word choice throughout.

Enjoyability: 2/5
I felt kind of irritated, actually, both as a reader and a reviewer, owing to the facts that

>I had no connection to any of the characters, and,
>I had no idea what the hay was going on, and why.

Those are two very big problems that prevented me from enjoying your story, and throughout, your execution of the concept really just didn't do what it needed to.

Total: 11/25

Final Thoughts:
I don't want to discourage you, but I will say this:

Look hard and long at, not only your concept, but also at your outline. Ask yourself if this is something that really needs to be written. Maybe the climax and more plot-centered sections are great, and that's fine. But most of this chapter felt like extraneous padding that I didn't need, and that I didn't understand. It didn't really contribute to any sort of plot at all.

Ready for EqD?: No
Rewrite Recommended?: Yes.

Best of luck,
Golden Vision
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IMADEITIMADEITIMADEITIMADEITIMADEITIMADEIT!!!

*head 'splode*

Ahem... so yeah, anyway...

Just got the email from EqD. They accepted my story! I seriously have the biggest crap-eating grin ever right now. I know most people would be like, "Dude, calm down. It's just pony fiction." But screw them! I set a goal, busted my hump, and I made it!!

Brother, I couldn't have done it without you. Thanks for all the kind (and not-so-kind) words and guidance. I'm already working on the next chapter, and I'll definitely be dropping it in this thread once it's done, most likely tomorrow.

Again, I know it's not THAT big a deal in the scheme of things, but I feel on top of the world. Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to go change my pants.
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>>112883
HOLY FUCK DUDE THIS IS AWESOME I WANT TO GIVE YOU A HUG RIGHT NOW.

It's been what, 3, 4 months since I saw the first edition of your fic? The fact that you finally got it onto EqD is so MINDBLOWINGLY awesome that this announcement deserves five brohooves: ^3^/) ^3^/) ^3^/) ^3^/) ^3^/)

You've busted your ass for MONTHS on this, rewritten it completely, been up and down the asylum with it, and it's finally made it. Dude, you're awesome.

>pic related
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>>112883
>busted my hump
Considering the reviews, edits, rejections, complete rewrite, more reviews, and more reedits, I believe it is safe to call this an understatement. Grats, dude! You sure as hell earned it.
>> No. 113017
Hey, GV! I got a new chapter for yo...
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DAMN YOU, CLOSED QUEUE! DAMN YOU TO HELL!!!

Meh, I'll wait. :)
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>>112883
Well, My radar's been elsewhere, but I need to throw in my congratulations. One of my favorite sayings ever is: "Victory is sweetest when you've known defeat." and I think nopony understands that better than you right now. BRO-HOOF!
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Heya, brother! How many more stories in your queue? I just got savaged by Ryonne, so I think I have something a bit more polished for you to look at.

Also: http://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/07/story-under-luminous-sky.html

>pic related
>> No. 113325
>>112792
Thanks for looking over my story, even if it did suck! ^_^
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>>111026
Hi there!

For reference, people, THE QUEUE IS STILL CLOSED.

Only two left after this, though! Yay!

So let's get down to it, hm?

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Title: Foundation and Equestria
Gah. This is the most literal, and therefore boring, title you could have possibly come up with, even if you had tried. Get something better. Period.

Note that I actually don't have anything to say on your synopsis, 'cause it's actually pretty damn impressive. Nice work there.

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Characters: 3/5
I liked your characters. They were interesting. But none of them really quite "popped" out to me like real people. I didn't feel much of a connection to them. Something that you can do to correct this would be giving us more insight into Nova's actions, expounding upon her reasoning and backstory, and generally following the things I've laid out in Settings below. Other than a mere lack of depth, though, you did an okay job here.

Plot: 5/5
Very interesting. I will say up front that I'm a big fan of scifi and fantasy, and though I haven't actually read the Foundation yet (I'm planning to at some point), the genre as a whole interests me. You've pulled off a nice job of giving us a believable, futuristic universe, and investing ponies into it as a medium. I found myself hooked into Nova's own confusion, wanting to know more about the mysterious Stabledon, and anxious to find out the result of the Fall, and what psychohistory can really achieve. Very nice.

Setting: 2/5
Ouch. You can fix this up, though, definitely. I find several (re: MANY) places where you really should have used body language to express your characters and the mood. It was severely lacking, especially in places where you had anywhere from three to four lines of completely "naked" dialogue, with nothing more than empty spoken words to illustrate the actual scene. Us readers need a visual. Give it to us.

Furthermore, I couldn't object to your overall style (because I recognized it in terms of the intended genre), though I will let you know that it is certainly different from that of most pony fan fiction. You used LUS a damn lot (i.e. at all), and there were a few times were you Told us things about thoughts, reactions, or situations, where you should have Showed us the circumstances instead.

Mechanics: 4.5/5
I think I had a few objections to word choice or phrasing. Nothing big, really.

Enjoyability: 4/5
I was going to stop just after the first chapter, as I am wont to do. However, I found myself so damn impressed by the story itself that I just kept on reading. The main thing that prevented me from immersing myself completely in this was the absence of scene tone/mood, and the constant use of LUS. Fix those up, and you'll have a real keeper.

Total: 18.5/25

Final Thoughts:

I think that this has definite potential. I think it all depends on what you choose to have Hari and Nova do on that "uninhabited planet" to save things, and how you'll move the plot from there, but count yourself lucky that your main problem lies in easily-fixed mechanical areas (LUS, SDT, body language). So I suggest you go over this, fix all those problems, maybe work on your characterization a bit more—maybe even add another chapter or two—and then resubmit. You'll be ready for EqD in no time!

Best of luck,
Golden Vision
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Okay, got a suggestion from training grounds to come here for second opinions and such. From the looks of responses to reviews, this definitely looks like the right place. Anyway:

Title: A Heavy Crown

Author: Fullmetal Pony

Tags: Sad, Romance

Characters: Cadance

Word Count: 3972

Synopsis: I'll tell you a story. It's a tale about a unicorn with wings. I'll tell you about the Princess that kept her alive, the filly that taught her to care, and the stallion she loved. This is her story... it's my story.
>> No. 113344
>>113342
Edit: for some reason post isn't deleting. Characters should also include Chrysalis and OC
and link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L-YDdQXu-NGrZZWzXeQU3GT5MeYb3GMjghxTAcDIGmY/edit
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>>113344

Sorry, dude. GV's Queue is still closed.
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>>113335
You have no idea how happy I am to receive an extended review. I knew there were flaws, but I was too cautious and paranoid to find them. Nonetheless, I will keep all of your criticism in mind as I write future chapters.

>Gah. This is the most literal, and therefore boring, title you could have possibly come up with, even if you had tried. Get something better. Period.
I have to partly disagree with you here. You see, some of the Foundation novels are named that way (Foundation and Empire, Foundation and Earth, Foundation and Chaos). Sorry that it's dull, but it has to have "Foundation" in the title. I will try to find alternatives to "and Equestria", if that will make it any better, but no guarantees.

>Note that I actually don't have anything to say on your synopsis, 'cause it's actually pretty damn impressive. Nice work there.
It's nice to know that where the title fails, the synopsis makes up for it.

>Very interesting. I will say up front that I'm a big fan of scifi and fantasy, and though I haven't actually read the Foundation yet (I'm planning to at some point), the genre as a whole interests me. You've pulled off a nice job of giving us a believable, futuristic universe, and investing ponies into it as a medium. I found myself hooked into Nova's own confusion, wanting to know more about the mysterious Stabledon, and anxious to find out the result of the Fall, and what psychohistory can really achieve. Very nice.
I'm glad the story scored perfect in probably the most important area of all. Wish I could say the same about "setting", but that's what revisions are for, right?

>Ouch. You can fix this up, though, definitely. I find several (re: MANY) places where you really should have used body language to express your characters and the mood. It was severely lacking, especially in places where you had anywhere from three to four lines of completely "naked" dialogue, with nothing more than empty spoken words to illustrate the actual scene. Us readers need a visual. Give it to us.
Understood. I will work on it over the next few days. In normal circumstances it probably would not take me that long, yet I have done nothing productive for the past week, stifling my creativity. I will have to consult guides, plan out future chapters, stare out the window twice, etc., to get back into the flow.

>You used LUS a damn lot (i.e. at all), and there were a few times were you Told us things about thoughts, reactions, or situations, where you should have Showed us the circumstances instead.
I've been seeing the acronyms 'LUS' and 'SDT' thrown around in many threads on /fic/. I have my guesses judging on context, but could you tell me what they stand for to prevent a misunderstanding?

>I think that this has definite potential. I think it all depends on what you choose to have Hari and Nova do on that "uninhabited planet" to save things, and how you'll move the plot from there, but count yourself lucky that your main problem lies in easily-fixed mechanical areas (LUS, SDT, body language). So I suggest you go over this, fix all those problems, maybe work on your characterization a bit more—maybe even add another chapter or two—and then resubmit. You'll be ready for EqD in no time!
Thank you very much for your time, GV! I'll get cracking on the editing soon enough.
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>>113347
LUS means "Lavender Unicorn Syndrome." Basically, it refers to the situation in which one refers to "Twilight Sparkle" as "the lavender unicorn." If we already know their name, NEVER use a pronoun (that is not either he or she).

SDT means "show, don't tell." It refers to a situation in which the author directly Tells us something (e.g. "Twilight paused as she was interrupted") rather than illustrating (Show) the scene (e.g. "Crescent raised a hoof. "One moment." Twilight paused."). You need to give us the scene and its comprising actions rather than describing them and their effects to us.
>> No. 113349
>>113348
Ah... yeah, I heard of LUS (I guess I did overuse it). And SDT, by the sound of it, is when you use passive voice instead of active voice, which generally isn't recommended. Thanks again, GV.
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>>113349
Erm, no. SDT is ANYTHING but passive voice. That's a separate issue entirely.

Telling:
Twilight was angry at being interrupted.

Showing:

"—And that's why I think that we should—"

"Can you even let me speak?" Twilight growled under breath, glaring at Trixie. She ground her teeth. "You're so full of yourself that you can't even fathom that other ponies just might have opinions differing from your own!"

The first example is straight Telling, shoving an idea down our throats, while the second one Shows and illuminates that idea, using dialogue and body language, rather than direct exposition, to accomplish the same thing in a much more reader-friendly manner. Implication > Direct Exposition, every time.
>> No. 113363
I don't like it when people use that kind of example for SDT.

Let me show what I mean (see what I did there).

1: Twilight was angry.
2: Twilight glared.

Easy peasy. People talk about SDT like it's encouraging you to write these nice descriptions and create beautiful sense-based imagery blah blah blah but really it's just saying that sometimes you can't just tell us what things are like and then expect us to take your word for it. More examples:

The sunset was beautiful.
The machine made a horrible sound.
He looked unhappy.

These are good examples because there are obviously good ways for me to describe each one, but I chose not to. I chose to skip all the detail I could've gone into.

It's not that the writing isn't good; telling has its place and in fact can be rather nice. I wouldn't shy away from saying "the machine made a horrible sound," but I would probably give you some idea of what it sounds like in the next breath. I told you that it sounded horrible but didn't use that as excuse to say nothing else. In the case of "he looked unhappy," maybe that's the opinion of the character whose head I'm inside at the time or something.

The sunset is the clearest example. The sunset looked nice? That's a nice way of describing a beautiful sunset. Where did you leave your adjectives, dummy?
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>>111031
Ah, dammit. I'd love to review your fic, but comments weren't enabled. However, because I want to get this shit DONE, I'll be putting it in a doc of my own, and then let you fix it on there on your own time, if that works.

ANYWAYS, expect a review within the hour.
>> No. 113768
>>113757

We know what we've discussed, but for the rest of the thread, let it be known that it was reviewed.
>> No. 113774
Hey, G-Veezy! So, I have two chapters for you. If anyone feels this is unfair, then please feel free to just do the first, and I can let someone else go ahead of the second. Guesswork has looked at both, so there shouldn't be too much for you to change. I don't want to monopolize you. Just want your opinion, since you've been on this train wreck since the begining.

Title: Under A Luminous Sky
Author: Jake The Army Guy
Tags: Dark
Synopsis: Equestria is a land of peace. Violent crime is almost nonexistent. Ponyville in particular hasn't had a single case of equicide in all its years of existence. But nothing lasts forever.

A body is discovered in the Everfree Forest. Shortly thereafter, an enigmatic stallion arrives at the local library, dispatched by Celestia herself. Faced with an obstinate police force, Twilight and this strange new pony must put the pieces together and catch a killer. But not everything is as it seems...
Word count: Chapter Four- 4091, Chapter Five- 4805

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1I8KdOv2Aw6qRpIXmLLrywLAg8YFDxIZ5sRw43_Q1rC4/edit

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oespO0m4npdcO5dj2czNFqpRZWYZSIoJ4g5TRp3Lv1c/edit

Hope you like it!
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>>113774

Queue still appears to be closed, unless GV told you personally elsewise. Then just ignore me. I AM BUT A HUMBLE POTATO
>> No. 113782
>>113780
Yes, GV said I could drop them in an email conversation. But good looking out.

Actually, Figments, I wouldn't mind if you took a look, as well. Though you have your own thread and probably your own humongous queue, so I understand if you can't
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>>113782

>humongous

God, I wish it was like that. No one wants my reviews. :'(
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Almost submitted a story before I saw the notice from Figments!. It may already be in your gdocs que, so I apologize for jumping the gun on that end. Ah, well; I'll wait for things to officially open here before resubmitting.

Oops. My bad.
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>>113783
...I do.

Eh?
Eh?
Eh?
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>>113786

Sure, I suppose. If you can find my thread on page 1. :'(

ANYWAY!

Apologies for the derail, GV! BACK TO STUFFS!
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Hey guys. Bad news incoming.

It's slowly been dawning on me that:
1.) My time is extremely limited this summer, and I don't have much time to review,
2.) The time that I spend reviewing (as a certain enterprising fellow reviewer has noted) is taking away valuable time from my own writing.

The second point is a bit more personal, so I'll explain the first. For those of you that don't know, I'm working at a university laboratory over the summer as an intern. The thing is, I leave my house at eight in the morning, and often don't get back until six or seven at night. As you might imagine, that doesn't leave me much time for reviewing, or indeed anything else—I'd be limited to one fic every one, two, or even more days, if even that. This would also severely hinder my ability to give in-depth reviews, and would make it more of a chore than an enjoyed activity, given my full schedule (which also includes summer schoolwork, a job, etc.)

So, in the most apologetic spirit possible, I'm going to have to close my queue down and go on sabbatical from August 1st until September 5th, in order to both give myself some time to devote to my own writing, and to ensure that people are able to obtain quality service, rather than my own unfairly rationed time.

Note that I am NOT leaving /fic/ or this thread; in fact, I will clear out my queue beforehand (including Jake's fic), and will actually accept any resubmissions in the interim (provided I only do a quick-onceover to see if the mistakes were fixed this time around).

So, again, I apologize for taking this vacation. However, rest assured that, in the spirit of the mighty Governator:

WE'LL BE BACK.

-Golden Vision
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>>113805
>Governator
>We'll be back.
I see watcha did there.

Your queue's closed anyway, so it's not like you'd need to re-close it.

Anyway, good luck to you. Come back soon.
>> No. 113826
>>113805

Bummer to hear! Your scoring system sets you above the rest of the reviewers in terms of simple quantitative applicability.

Ah, well. Best of luck to you!
>> No. 113839
>>113805
Well, thanks for letting us know. It sounds like you have a full plate, dude. That's cool for you. We shall be eagerly awaiting your triumphant return.

As you say, ALLONS-Y!
>> No. 113867
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>>111043
Hi. Um. I feel really bad for this, but… I nearly couldn't make it through the end of your first chapter. I couldn't even bring myself to touch the second.

I'm not even sure why. Mechanically, it was okay—no glaring grammar errors or l33t-speke. But stylistically, and just overall, I had quite a few problems with it.

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Title: The Sky Whispers
I suppose this is a fitting title, insofar as you're discussing a pony who flies a plane. There isn't really much I can say here until I would have more to work with.

Synopsis:

First off, I would suggest cutting the first and third paragraphs entirely, as well as any meta-references (i.e. "1,000 years before FiM). Instead, intro with something like:

>In a time before the Princesses rose to power, and before Equestria could even have been conceived, the Earth Ponies reigned supreme on land, sea, and sky.

And then you can go into something about technological ability, regression of technical knowledge, fall of the Empire, yadda yadda yadda. What's important is that you immediately get across your setting and your character(s). Something significant is that you didn't once (kinda) mention your protagonist. All stories are necessarily character-driven, and we need someone to focus on who can experience this "fall."

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I can't even do a ratings system for this, because the entire first scene isn't a story. It's a battle report. I didn't care about the characters (of which there were none), nor did I understand the setting (which had no context), and nor did I care about the plot (which seemed like just another Michael Bay movie of "stuff blowing up.").

I think it's just the fault of your scene choice. People underestimate the powers of a scene as a medium, and it's the entire concept of how you executed this that made it nearly unreadable, in my opinion.

First off, the biggest problem with this scene is that it's a battle. There. That's done. It's extremely rare that a writer can just throw us into the action and expect us to know what's going on, or even enjoy or care about it. Far too often, I found you giving us the specs of planes or the battleground rather than of the ponies themselves. News flash: I do not care if the hills were one thousand feet tall, or if it was a double fuselage, or if it fired two hundred rounds, or if there was fifty percent more bullet, per bullet. I want to see characters, and I want to see plot, and I want to see meaning. Never write a naked action scene like this one; it had no context, it had no place, and it did nothing for the story.

From what little I glimpsed of the second chapter, it seemed like it transitioned to the scene after the battle. That's how you should start. Instead of catapulting us, yelling and screaming, into the action of an immediate battle, start off with a scene that's either just before or just after a battle. That way, we can get to know our characters and our local setting as well, along with getting a basic idea of the plot. Then, when you quickly transition into the battle scene at a later point in time, we'll have a better idea of who we're rooting for, what's going on, and so on. Also keep in mind that the purpose of a battle scene isn't to give a play-by-play of what's going on—leave that up to a movie choreographer—but instead to give us an idea of how the action relates to the bigger picture. This chapter didn't do that.

There's really nothing else to comment on, such as SDT, LUS, or anything really, because the entire chapter really didn't have anything there. I suggest you replace or move this chapter around, and then go have it rereviewed at some point to make sure that you're writing an effective introductory hook, as well as investing the reader into your characters. At this point, I couldn't give two shits about this "Black Void" guy, and the constant cursing made me want to punch the guy in the face for obviously being an American Marine, rather than a pony.

…Yeah. Wow. That's a long rant. I urge you, author, not to take this as a personal attack or a discouragement in any way. I have no doubt that you can take this idea and turn it into a good setting and character-driven story. In the meantime, though, you'll need some definite work before you can really go anywhere with it.

Best of luck,
Golden Vision
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>>113774

Wow, Jake. It's possible to tell when an author is really hitting their stride, and you're definitely getting better with this as time goes on. The biggest thing, I thought, was that all of your characters came to life;I felt as though I was really seeing the Doctor, or the bartender, or whoever else was there. The development of the plot was also nice.

One problem I had was, ironically, possibly the most significant one. I think that Twilight needed more characterization, especially in terms of how she interacted with Bentragss. The scene at the end, where she directly confronted him and demanded answers, was very good, but she was far too passive (in my opinion) throughout the earlier bits. Remember that Twilight is both intelligent and strong-willed; she's going to question Bentgrass if she thinks he's doing something wrong or illogical.

That's just my bit. Very impressive. I think I made no more than ten comments total on the GDoc. I can't wait for more!

-Golden Vision

Annnnd, that's it, then. I shall be back to review in approximately a month, though I will take resubmissions and the occasional update, just to take a quick look. In the meantime, farewell to the reviewing crowd.

And hopefully, hello the the fimfic Featured box.
>> No. 113889
>>113882
Wow, glad you liked it.

A few points:

Your little "wut" moment from chapter four involving Rainbow Dash's... motivations for what she did? All will be explained shortly. Just trust me...

Your points on Twilight not being vocal enough about her disapproval of Bentgrass was spot on. I shall correct at once.

Once more, I can't thank you enough, man! Best of luck with your summer plans, and I'll keep an eye on the feature box!
>> No. 113970
I submitted to your queue without reading the post bout you closing it down. My apologies, feel free to remove my nonsense!
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>>113882
>The biggest thing, I thought, was that all of your characters came to life;I felt as though I was really seeing the Doctor, or the bartender, or whoever else was there.

I want to comment on that real quick. See, that's what I love about my favorite authors, Douglas Preston and Lincoln Child. They give every character life. Even if it's a one shot, someone who will only be in one chapter to witness the main character doing something, they give them life and reason. That's kind of what I want to do with my writing. I want every character to feel like they're real. Guesswork mentioned a quote about giving a character personality in only one sentence. Like, if you do it right, you can tell someone everything they need to know about a character in just one line, one action. That's what I aspire to, so for you to say that really brightens my day.
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Welcome everypony, to the re-opening of Golden Vision's second review thread! It's been a long (and busy!) summer, but I'm more than ready to hit the books again this fall—and, as it were, the fanfiction!

My queue is open once more, for your pleasure, and I will be taing your submissions again provided you follow the rules posted in the OP of this thread. I trust there will be no complications.

The first fic in my queue can expect a review by this Saturday, so bring it on!

This is GV, signing out. Hello, /fic/. It's been far too long =)
>> No. 118694
>>118691
DIBS!!!

Title: Under A Luminous Sky
Author: Jake The Army Guy
Tags: Dark
Word count: 6105
Synopsis: Equestria is a land of peace. Violent crime is almost nonexistent. Ponyville in particular hasn't had a single case of equicide in all its years of existence. But nothing lasts forever.

A body is discovered in the Everfree Forest. Shortly thereafter, an enigmatic stallion arrives at the local library, dispatched by Celestia herself. Faced with an obstinate police force, Twilight and this strange new pony must put the pieces together and catch a killer. But as the blood continues to spill, one thing becomes terrifyingly clear: in the dark of the Everfree, much more is at stake than mere lives.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Lqlg2Gboo26HyqZzsfTa8gFf_3N9eu4h8icj00IiQWE/edit

Also, GV is back. yay.
>> No. 118698
>>118691

Welcome back. I hope you had a pleasant break.

Title: Sweet Escape
Author: Bob From Bottles
Tags: Slice of Life, Comedy
Characters: Luna, Celestia
Wordcount: 8321
Synopsis: Luna is on a mission to save Equestria. With so many ponies gaining weight, she feels it is time to put down the cake and pick up a salad. Now, she only needs to find a way to let her sister know that the dieting and exercise begins today.
Link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/17m9IU6uArON4D6gB1DEX2XDMvdOcVRZOyz83BeRtduw/edit
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>>118691
Woah thar. Welcome back! =)
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>>118740
Mixing up your Touhou avatars are we? And going with one of my favorite EX Bosses as well. I greatly approve this.
>> No. 118754
Title: 30 Days

Chapter: Day 0 (Prologue)

Characters: Just Sapphire Shores and Vinyl Scratch for the prologue. However, the rest of the story will grow to showcase the Mane 6 (mostly Fluttershy), Lyra, Bon Bon, Gilda, Neon Lights (MC W1SH), Mayor Mare, the Royal Sisters, Prince Blueblood, and quite a number of OCs.

Tags:[Shipping][Dark][Slice-of-Life][Rollercoaster]

Word Count: ~6200

Synopsis: It has been said Equestria has more love than any other kingdom in the world. However, with a single kiss Vinyl Scratch, a.k.a. DJ P0N-3, reveals a new kind of love, and it’s an utter shock to the prudish, highly-conservative ponies of Equestria.

As Vinyl Scratch's controversy turns her life into a downhill struggle, many ponies rush to her aid, some coming out and admitting they too are lovers of a different kind. However, more claim that the DJ and her supporters are nothing but deviants that will endanger society through their taboos.

A lot can happen over the course of a month. Join the Mane 6, Vinyl Scratch, Sapphire Shores, Lyra, Bon-Bon, Gilda, and many, many others in a story about love, hatred, prejudice, identity, and most of all, fighting for the right to be who you truly are.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Bva2z3xRJUrpDhRgSYwjqXQUAIIylCZme2w9bcqOfJI/edit

I originally showed you a chapter (previously under the title "100 Days") in your first review thread with events that are now going to be parts of Day 3 and Day 4. In your review, you mentioned how I failed to bring any background or build-up towards this supposed societal conflict that was going on. That was probably the best advice you could have given me. It allowed me to re-shape and add necessary details to my outline. Thanks! Hope you like how I took your advice.
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woot! Welcome back. I hope your /fic/ vacation was a productive one.

I have, for you, a submission.


Working Title: The Potato Sack Princess

Tags: [Slice of Life]

Word Count: 6004

Synopsis: Rarity was raised to be a charitable soul, but cannot get over her discomfort in asking for donations. During a particularly heated conversation with Applejack, charity turns to competition and soon Rarity must ask if she is strong enough to endure the public humiliation she herself had gambled.

Chapter 1: (of 2)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19ub8ms-0jKCX2EO-aWCzZEgmDJP6XuBnzewK9fWs6KA/edit

I have also submitted this to President Nixon for grammatical review, but my goal is to have a story worthy of EqD, and not just an exercise in grammatical correctness. I place my trust and my work into your capable hands.
>> No. 118805
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Golden! Good to have you back. I've been hard at work in your absence with another Derpy fic in which, for a change of pace, I do NOT kill her. (That comes in my other project, the sequel to From the Mouths of Fillies which I will also submit here at a later date. Moo-hahaha.)

[Title]: What's in a Name, Month One - or, Unexpected Arrivals
[Authors]: Comma-Kazie and Chengar Qordath
[Tags]:Normal, Slice of Life
[Link]: https://docs.google.com/document/d/19wjKKDb65BdK2f94fBYVl4kZEYo4BN1aejoFFSZOLn4/edit
[Characters]: Ditzy Doo, Rainbow Dash, OCs, others
[Word Count]: 7259
[Synopsis]: Ditzy Doo is the daughter of a prominent family in Canterlot. So why has she shown up at Rainbow Dash’s doorstep, years after they last saw each other? Rainbow is willing to go to out of her way to help an old friend, but she may get more than she bargained for: being away from home isn’t the only thing Ditzy has to adjust to...

Also, I realized while typing this submission that I accidentally sent the link to the second chapter to your que in place of the link to the first chapter. Please follow the link in THIS post. Sorry for the mistake.
>> No. 118816
Title: Worst Nightmares

Author: Fullmetal Pony

Tag: Dark

Character: Luna, Nightmare Moon, and Twilight

Synopsis: Everything has been taken. Your city, your citizens, even your sister are all gone. This is your nightmare Luna, let's make it theirs. Based on WanderD's Changeling Queen (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/35442/The-Changeling-Queen)

Word Count: 3570

Link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/19MCp2AYmJpIC1cyKrMcQ8nHMov3l17Bx6QC_gkAV0NU/edit
>> No. 118886
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>>118694
Salut, Jake, et bienvenu, tout le monde, au première revue de mon fil!

No, I don't know why I wanted to write in French. No, I won't give you a translation, you lazy, non-Google-Translate-using bastards.

ANYWAYS. It's good to be back, and I was very pleased with the quality of the first fic that I had to review. You might notice, my good author, that I left about 4-6 comments on the whole thing—certainly no more than 10—and most dealt with small typos. I think that says something about your improving ability as a writer.

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Characters: 4.5/5
Excellent work here. I liked Twilight's interplay with Bentgrass, and the Spike scene (even though I literally have no idea what was going on, given that I haven't read the last few chapters) was very well done, emotionally and stylistically. I was definitely impressed with Zecora's rhymes, you twisty bugger. I doubt I could've done all that. My one gripe was that, while I realized that at certain points, Bentgrass was putting on a "mask" for the benefit of Twilight, Zecora, or Spike, you might have done something to make it more apparent to the readers, even if not to the PoV character.

Plot: 5/5
Nothing to say here, really.

Setting: 4/5
The one problem I had here was that Zecora's scene felt too much like a Big Lipped Alligator Moment (BLAM —TVTropes) to have much of an impact on me. I wanted more lead-up, I wanted to know more about why she was there, why she was disheveled, and the initial reaction to her presence, and I felt as if her departure was rushed. The scene didn't have much staying power, sadly, so you'll need to fix that.

Mechanics: 5/5
I would make this a 4.5, but it's a pity I don't dock for all of 4 typos (you cheeky bugger).

Enjoyability: 5/5
Immersive, original, and stylistically smooth. You're getting better and better at this with each new thing I see from you.

Total: 23.5/25

Final Thoughts:
Hm…I probably should go back and read your last chapter (even if I never got to it) in order to place this one in a better context…

…Meh. I think I'll wait until you hit the Featured Box with this thing.

Bottom line: Keep up the good work, and keep banging these things out!

Best of luck!
-Golden Vision
>> No. 118888
>>118886
Asante sana kwa kupitia hadithi yangu! Mimi nimefurahi kwamba mkaguzi bora kwenye tovuti hii ni nyuma katika hatua!

Yeah, that's Swahili. Your move, G-Money.

Thanks for the kind words! I have only one question about the Zecora scene. Any tips on how I can make it memorable and less BLAM? Maybe she stayed up all night trying to confirm her fears? Or do you have any suggestions on how to add to the scene after the illusion part?

Also... I f*@$ing HATE writing dialogue for Zecora!!!!!
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>>118888

>Asante sana kwa kupitia hadithi yangu! Mimi nimefurahi kwamba mkaguzi bora kwenye tovuti hii ni nyuma katika hatua!
>best auditor
>mfw

Also, I think you need to set up some dialogue for Zecora establishing more why she's there and what she was doing beforehand. Focus more on developing Twilight's reaction as well, and maybe add in some focus on Bentgrass's (lack of?) reaction.
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>>118698
Hey there, Bob! Congrats on winning the Writeoff—this story definitely showcases why your writing skills were high enough to win first place. That said, there were definitely some things I had to comment on while reading.

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Title: Sweet Escape
I liked this. It's short, concise, and quite illustrative.

Synopsis:
>Luna is on a mission to save Equestria. With so many ponies gaining weight, she feels it is time to put down the cake and pick up a salad. Now, she only needs to find a way to let her sister know that the dieting and exercise begins today.

This is good, but I'd reword the last sentence slightly. Try:

>The dieting and exercise begin today. Now, if only she could find a way to let her sister know…

(Ellipses optional)

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Character: 5/5
I liked both Luna and Celestia throughout, and the butler was great too. All of the interactions were IC and, oftentimes, completely hilarious while staying believable. Nice work.

Plot: 4/5
Overall it was good, but both the beginning and the ending were rocky, and not at all professional. You need to clean those up.

Setting: 4.5/5
Same thing as Plot, but less severe. You need to work on your scene transitions.

Mechanics: 5/5
Not many typos at all.

Enjoyability: 5/5
I loved Luna in this, and found the umbrella fight to be the crowning moment of hilarity and complete ridiculousness. Excellent, excellent work.

Total: 23.5/25

Final Thoughts:
I'm not sure how many edits this fic has gone through (mainly because, sadly, I didn't get a chance to read it during the Writeoff), but it's definitely looking quite polished overall. The problem is that you have a few glaring mistakes that threaten to ruin the immersiveness once or twice throughout. Fix those completely, and you should be good to go.

Ready for EqD?: Touch up the hook and conclusion, and you're all set.
Rewrite Recommended?: Lolnope

Best of luck!
-Golden Vision
>> No. 118934
>>118932
Bob won first place? With that story? Fkn win. I... *think* I touched that one before... Huh. Either way, way to be Bob.
>> No. 118936
>>118932

Thank you for the review. It's good to see I'm getting the story close to being EQD ready. I'll work on smoothing out the scene transitions and making the ending less abrupt. The part that's going to give me trouble is the beginning.

I don't want to hide from the reader that Celestia isn't all that overweight and that Luna is overreacting for some reason, but I'm having a hard time doing that without it becoming boring narrative exposition or awkward dialogue. Any suggestions and how to improve Luna and the guard's interaction to make it less of an info dump?

About the training montage. The joke was that Luna basically put Celestia trough a training montage only to reveal that the pony that designed the work-out really was named Training Montage. Was this not clear, or should I just drop the joke?
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Hey there, GV. You still open? If you are, I'd like to request you take a look at this before I send it off to EQD. It's been around the board a bit so hopefully there won't be much left to fix.

Title: Showmare
Author: Bleeding Raindrops
Tags: Sad, Slice of Life
Characters: Trixie, Twilight, Applejack, Pinkie Pie
Word Count: 5260
Synopsis: She'd lost everything even before the Ursa attacked, but now, two years later, Trixie stumbles across Ponyville, looking for a fresh start, and an old friend.
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>>118936

>Any suggestions and how to improve Luna and the guard's interaction to make it less of an info dump?
Have the guard try and interrupt her, maybe, or give noncommital grunts every other paragraph. Elaborate more on his presence originally, and then on his lack of reaction until she snaps at him.

>Was this not clear, or should I just drop the joke?
It seemed a lot more like a Monty Python joke (i.e. "Don't worry men; the Animator has had a heart attack!") or something. Just stick with Luna believing in the power of the "Training Montage" (capitalized for hilarity and because she's watched one too many Rocky reruns) and you should be fine. Subtly meta is better than a confusing joke.
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Hi guys. Just a quick apology—I've been flooded with school stuff, and so haven't been able to really look at the fics in my queue. However, the Rosh Hashanah holiday is coming up, and so I should have a four-day weekend to clear it out. Till then!

-GV
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>>118754
Hi there! I'm really sorry you had to wait a whole ten days for this, but hopefully, once my queue is cleared, I'll be able to get right back on track with everything! So without further ado, let's go!

(I'd also like to mention that, my apologies, but I've forgotten my initial review of this fic. So I'm looking at it with, basically, a clean slate)

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Title: 30 Days
First off, the arabic numerals are a no-no. If it's under one hundred, as a general rule, use words. Secondly, this doesn't tell us much about the story or characters. Heck, "lovers of a different kind" really stuck out to me in the summary—why not use that? Anything but something as unemotive as "30 days."

Summary
I will admit—this was easily my favorite bit from what you submitted. That said, that's not necessarily a good thing. The synopsis was admirably done, and I couldn't find anything wrong with it (except, perhaps, that you should keep the "character list" in the third paragraph down to no more than two characters). If I had been a reader, this would have done a great job of pulling me in.

…That said, the actual content wasn't quite so flattering.

(Although a quick note: "endanger society through their taboos" should be "endanger society by their taboo lifestyles" or some such)

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Plot: 2/5
I'll say it right here: 90% of this chapter could have been cut entirely, and you would have had the same essential story. Cleaner, certainly. Less developed? Not at all.

Your problem is that you devote so much time to exploring small, insignificant details that we never get any real time with…well, the main plot. I realize that this is the first chapter, but you must understand that you never have much time to draw the reader in. Every author experiences this problem at least once, and no reader will sit through 2k words of Sapphire Shores getting a makeover without anything actually happening. Even the cutie mark story was boring, irrelevant, and lackluster.

My advice? Start off from the moment that Vinyl gets invited to run the gig, play up a past relationship with Sapphire over a montage, and top the chapter off with the kiss scene (as you did). Heck, a side PoV character (perhaps an agent, freaking out over the sidelines?) would make this story much more interesting. I would definitely love to see something like:

>Vinyl's performing, everything's going well
>Agent is watching, everything's cool
>They finish, Vinyl goes in for the kiss
>Agent watches with horror, "WTF is she doing?"
>Vinyl pulls out of the kiss and sees the crowd

It would provide a nice outsider PoV, and a good contrast for Vinyl's "heat of the moment."

Character: 2/5
You had a few lines of dialogue that were believable. That was about it. The rest gave no distinctive idea that it was either Vinyl or Sapphire talking; both felt OOC at times, especially when giving "sad" stories. It's perfectly possible to transition a character without destroying their believability wholesale.

Meanwhile, the bulk of your character interaction felt very wooden. Especially with the stylists (why are they even talking? Shut up, you're a side character, you shouldn't have names; go back to being scenery).

Even worse, though, was that Vinyl's attraction had no rhyme or reason to it. Even if I concede that yes, it could happen, there was still no context; no lead up. It's the equivalent of me writing a story in which Celestia immediately falls in tru wub with Twilight because of "how she looked in the moonlight." With romance, you need to be subtle; you can't be heavy-handed in declaring a pony's attraction. There must be clues; there must be signs; there must be a shared experience.

Setting: 2/5
I wanted to smack you every time you used SDT (Show, Don't Tell), LUS (Lavender Unicorn Syndrome), or described body language where it wasn't necessary (or lacked it where it was).

Go over every single instance where you don't have either a real name or he/she/they, and delete it. Go over every single instance where you describe the thoughts of someone who isn't the PoV character and delete it. Finally, go over every situation where you describe directly what can be implied, and delete it.

Your readers will thank you for it.

Mechanics: 4.5/5
A few typos; you really should proofread somewhat better. Not too bad, though.

Enjoyability: 2/5
I was promised a good fic with romance, controversy, and interesting character interactions. I didn't really get it.

In the immortal words of Reddit, "OP didn't deliver."

Total: 12.5

Final Thoughts:
Let me just say this first: this wasn't horrible. The dialogue was understandable, nothing was actually painful to read, and it was certainly readable (you have a grasp on the English language).

That said, this was your first fan fiction. It was an admirable effort, but there are certainly ways in which you can improve. Don't take my comments above, no matter how scathing, as personal attacks. Instead, try and see them as they are—real attempts to help you get better. I want you to do well, and that's why I'm doing this. So don't get discouraged, and don't give up.

Ready for EqD?: No
Rewrite Recommended?: Pretty much.

Best of luck!
-GV
>> No. 119598
I hope i'm doing this right...sorry not on sites like this often

Title: Rules To Live By

Author: gwambat

Tags: Comedy/Slice of life/Random

Word count: 8,270

Character(s): Derpy Hooves, Doctor Whooves,Pinkie Pie, Spike, OC

synopsis: Ditzy Doo Lives by Rules she has set up for her self. On a friends suggestion (and against her better judgement) She wrote them down in to what is the most conversational advice book she now knows

Link:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NsHElvFnKNQv5eIh1LBUsTMwPhZ7-lzriNAcwnCS7Go/edit

Re submission: No
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>>118764
Hey, Blankflank! Good to see you back here with another fic! That said, let's get started, shall we?

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Title:The Potato Sack Princess

So anyway, it's definitely a very catchy title, so I think it works for what you had in mind.

Synopsis:
This would be a great example of a summary…except for one line:
>but cannot get over her discomfort in asking for donations

This implies that Rarity is the ultimate recipient of these donations, and is merely ashamed of admitting she's poor. As you and I both know (myself only after actually reading the chapter), this isn't true in the slightest. So reword this so that it actually makes sense.

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Plot: 1/5
Let me be completely straight with you here. You have a nice basis. I guess the theme, at least, is a good one. The idea is technically okay.

But the execution? It sucks.

Let's start with something simple: the scenes. Now, I'm not talking about what the scenes contain (that'd be under Setting), but rather their very organizational structure. Most stories have a flow within the narrative, so that we, as the readers, know exactly where we are and where we're going. You, on the other hand, didn't provide a road so much as a jumble of confusing and misleading signs. The organization of the scenes made very little sense. I'm not even saying that you can't have flashbacks, or that they all need to come at the beginning. Instead, I'm suggesting that you put things together in ways that either fit in a straightforward, sensible manner, or else at least put them in a decent alternating pattern. The way you have it now is just a confusing bramble of vaguely related words leading to vaguely related catchlines of vaguely related scenes.

And now for the central idea, that Rarity and AJ are somehow having a "competition" so that Rarity can give away the quilts to charity…I'm sorry, but no. You failed completely to make this pass my bullshit meter. It makes little to no sense (see my complaints in-doc re: why AJ can't just donate the blankets (it's not like they're unusable trash if they're not made into coats), and various other issues that completely fail to lead us into a believable scenario into which things would realistically go this way. And on a meta level, it's cheap. I can see the author's hand clearly guiding the plot in the direction you want it to go, even if you have to force it. And that's a major no-no.

So, in short, re-arrange your scenes, and think over your proof of concept again. Don't come back into this with a half-baked idea.

Characters: 5/5
This was a section where I thought you really shone. Stylistically, each character was perfectly written, and their development was enough to make me teary-eyed, at least for Triple and filly Rarity. Your characters were amazing, so it's a shame that they were brought down by a shoddy plot.

Setting: 3/5
You did a fairly good job of describing scenery, so I'll give you that. However, what you did not do was either a.) Introduce us to each individual scene (the Apple farm quilt bit being the prime violator), or b.)Actually use body language to give us an impression of the situation. It's this second bit that's most crucial to what you lack. We need to see body language—a shrug, a snort, a derisive nod—to give us context for both the action and the dialogue. Instead, I got long strings of completely naked dialogue with nothing to show for character but a moving mouth. You don't want a mouth as your protagonist. You want a pony for that.

Mechanics: 5/5
Nothing to see here; move along (except for the additional awkward phrasing)

Enjoyability: 4/5
Here's where I'm really conflicted. Your style, put simply, apart from the gaffes with body language and scene-setting, was extremely immersive and enjoyable. I may have wanted to put it down and whine "But plot holessss" every five seconds, but dammit, I kept reading for some strange reason. So, yeah. Props.

Total: 18/25

Final Thoughts:
I think this'll be the story that finally validates my hypothesis that a good plot is needed above all else before writing a story. You may have scored high mechanically, but if I were a normal reader, I wouldn't give you the time of day. A reader first reads for story, and then characters, style, and setting-expansion merely allow the author to fine tune their work. Count the number of fics with shitty plots but good style that are featured on fimfiction. Then try and find how many hold true for the opposite.

Still there? You found a shitload for the second one, didn't you?

So yeah; there's your problem. There's no doubt that you can write, but any good author needs a proper subject to discuss, and yours just isn't that well-developed as of yet. If you keep at it, though. I have little doubt that you'll be able to present another story that's fifty times better.

Ready for EqD?: Eeenope.
Rewrite Recommended?: Eeyup

Best of luck!
-Golden Vision
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>>119778

Wow. Harsh.

...

OMG THANK YOU! I've been getting a lot of praise and smiles from my readers, which does me NO GOOD AT ALL. (Sorry about the shouting, but I am excitable right now) And, yes. This all started as an exercise in characterization, and the "plot" was grafted on to have something to say. I felt all along that this thing was too sprawling and disjointed, but I have to say I completely lost the handle a while back, and was just too proud to admit I needed to start over.

I absolutely despised how often I found myself jumping around in time, and how over-larded some of the scenes became just to justify Rarity's discomforts. Not my best work, I'm afraid.

Setting - check. I'll add more landscape to the scenes and make sure there's a "there" there. (It parses, that last phrase) Also, adding body language: I can do that.

Now, my question to you is this: what of the current stuff is worth saving? I am happy with the characters and their dialogue, but I know I need to take an axe to this thing. Any thoughts? Can I just cut the horseshoes scene? Ugh. I need to go for a walk and think about this.

You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. You have helped me immeasurably, and I thank you for your efforts. I hope to return with a revision that we both can be happy about.
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>>119784
I'm actually very happy that you received this review so gracefully—the politeness of /fic/ compared to some other boards (at least when it comes to my thread, *coughcough*) is something that never fails to impress.

>Now, my question to you is this: what of the current stuff is worth saving?
Well, here're my thoughts. Your characterization is admirable, but the plot is just...ugh. So, here are my thoughts:

Let's take a look at what you've got right now. A subplot of Rarity's past and her own motivations to help others, along with Applejack's comparatively forceful nature complicating the issue. You've also got an excellent method of characterizing both their rivalry and friendly nature, and an excellent setup of the charity theme.

So why not have Rarity propose to Applejack that they host a charity event of sorts? That way, you can keep the characterization that you have, and move the focus to the event itself, rather than the strangled sort of plotline you have now. You'll even be able to expand the plot to include background ponies, the Mane Six—anything you want that can provide additional reflections on why we give to others, and what we can do to make their lives better. Try contrasting selfishness and selflessness; maybe Rainbow Dash learns a much-needed lesson at AJ's hands.

So, instead of trying to write a story about rivalry or arguing, instead try to write one about how we can compare competitiveness and cooperation, and how each one is useful, using the theme of charity as a backdrop. Note that this isn't a full plotline, but rather a way to organically expand your prospects.

Hope this helped, and good luck writing!
-GV
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>>118805
Hi Comma-Kazie. I'm really sorry I took this long to get back to you, but I'm going to have to reject your fic from my official queue, as I try and make it a habit to stay away from EqD-approved fics. (That way, I can get to the ones that actually need my help quicker). So, if you want, at some point in the future I can take a look at it and give you just some general thoughts in an email, but as it's already posted, I'm not sure if I could really be much help.

Sorry again, and best of luck,
-GV
>> No. 119839
>>119815

Ech, no worries, I understand. Good luck sorting through your queue!
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>>118816
Ugh…I'm really sorry Fullmetal. I'm really sorry. But I couldn't do it. I gave up on comments about halfway through the chapter (I did finish reading the rest, though). Here's why.

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Title: Worst Nightmare
Definitely a good title, given the double nature of the plot.

Synopsis:
>Everything has been taken.
Okay

>Your city, your citizens, even your sister are all gone.
Your city, your citizens, and even your sister are gone.

>This is your nightmare Luna, let's make it theirs.
This is your nightmare, Luna; let's make it theirs.

>Based on WanderD's Changeling Queen (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/35442/The-Changeling-Queen)
GET RID OF THIS CITATION

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Plot: 1/5
I'm sorry, but this will be the first time that I'm horribly, brutally honest in this review. So, let's start with your plot.

It was the hollowest, most meaningless, ridiculous and bludgeoning storyline that I've ever read. At the very least, it was up there.

Why? Let's find out.

For starters, your basis is that changelings have invaded the entirety of Equestria while Luna was gone, and now they're…taking over the kingdom? Wait, didn't they already do that? Why did they bother even trying to deceive her? How did this happen? Why did Missus Significant Changeling (Our very own Twilight Sparkle) get killed off without developing the backstory at all? Why the hell do we care about a story that seems more like a bad rerun of The Twilight Zone than a story involving ponies?

For the record, I'm not even going to bother expecting you to answer these questions. This plot, in my eyes, was a pile of silly, wasteful drivel that led nowhere, from nowhere, and ultimately had no point. You mentioned it was a oneshot? That's nice. I fail to see how the way I see things has changed at all following my reading of this fic.

Okay, maybe I'm being too harsh. There's definitely a better way to do this—maybe Luna regroups and creates a strike force to take down the changelings and restore the kingdom. Maybe she has to overcome her negative PR, both from her time as NMM and manufactured by Chrysalis in her absence. Who knows? The possibilities are endless—but the way you've set this up, the idea is dead in the water.

Characters: 1/5
I hated all of your characters

They were, in no particular order:

Wooden
Uninteresting
Unsympathetic
Unbelievable
Hammy
Ridiculous

And so on. At the very least, I didn't need some changeling blabbering about "love' every five sentences like some obsessive little alien facefucker. No character ever felt real to me, and I have a feeling that this was less due to intention than to just plain bad writing. The dialogue was stilted and horribly wooden, and nothing actually felt like real characterization. They just read like mannequins, playing a part. Nothing real was involved.

I wanted characters. Instead, I got a bunch of plastic.

Setting: 2/5
This was also bad, or at least several uncomfortable. You did a terrible job of setting up scenes, and often, the transitions felt with little to no purpose, and completely random. Scenes were short, choppy, and weird. Furthermore, a near-complete lack of usable body language just condemned you here.

Mechanics: 4/5[b]
It wasn't terrible, but I got the feeling that you only halfway understood a lot of idioms. See my comments for examples of things you got wrong, or worded awkwardly, or just had as clutter.

[b]Enjoyability: 1/5

Needless to say, I did not enjoy this fic. It had little to no value for me, and was almost painful to read. Truth be told, it felt more like the product of a fifth grader asked to write a story for his English assignment than anything else. The writing was stilted and wooden, and the whole thing just felt like "X does Y. Z does W. A, B, C happen." There was no development of a scene; only the immediate actions that moved the plot along, or else meaningless rising action (chatting over random stuff at a trap party? Really?) that did nothing for me whatsoever. I honestly think you should scrap this whole fic and start over with some new idea.

Total: 9/25

Final Thoughts:
Now, here's where I take my reviewing goggles off and speak to you somewhat more sympathetically, author to author.

You can speak English. That's a definite start. Furthermore, you've proven to have at least a base understanding of the MLP universe (which I should certainly hope you have). That said, you definitely have a lot to work on. My best advice? Read. Read a lot. Writing practice does you no good if you have nothing to inspire it. Don't just read fanfiction, either—read real books; classics, fantasy epics, comics, and so on. The more you read, the more you'll pick up on how to replicate that process yourself. And I have full faith that, given enough time, anyone can write like the greats. You just have a little farther to climb.

Ready for EqD?: No.
Rewrite Recommended?: Scrap it.

Best of luck,
Golden Vision
>> No. 119849
>>119841
Sigh...

I'm really beginning to think third person narratives are not my thing.

However

>For starters, your basis is that changelings have invaded the entirety of Equestria while Luna was gone, and now they're…taking over the kingdom? Wait, didn't they already do that?

You brought up the citation as a thing to get rid of... well, that explains all the lead up to this. Basicly, WanderD wrote said fic and then asked people to continue on it.

However, I still recognize that what you said about the characters and plot overall were very important... although given that you said to scrap it... hmmm, maybe a first person rewrite from Luna/Moon's perspective would be a better venture?

Although... given what you said about another fic idea... well, there is one other story I've been working on, and that sucker has already had quite a reviews done to it, but given the attention to detail you gave, perhaps passing it by you in a few days wouldn't be a bad idea.

Thank you again for the review.
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Golden Vision, I've been meaning to post something for you consideration for some time, but time constraints have delayed me for some time.

I have a few free minutes however, so I might as well post this. I'm am prepared for what's to come.

Title: Salty Shores—Chapter 1

Tags: Horror (semi-lovecraftian), Alternate Universe, Fantastic Noir/Dungeoun Punk

Author: E.D. "Garnot" C]-[H

Wordcount: ~6000

Synopsis: There is always more to a story…

There is a fog-covered cove that few dare speak of... a place where the black seas and the black earth converge. The few tales that are whispered of this place speak of a damned town where the dead walk and an evil born in the deepest, darkest recesses of the ancient oceans resides; an evil that neither science nor magic can explain...

But this wasn't always the case. Once, the location was one of progress and prosperity, where riches could be made from deep within the earth's bowels.

All that changed when they found it.

There is always more to a story—always…



Link:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-hbGnF2o8a59C05cTJ_LTSDbLCfINTDHSRtsI5Ukxs8/edit

Currently, only Ion has this story. It's already gone through Seidio and Through Shockwave, both of whom more or less found various errors that have been all corrected.

A couple of notes that I feel would be of interest.
1. The tale of Salty Shores is one of degeneration. Starting off, the story should feel rather 'purple prose-sy,' as this is meant to contrast the maddening simplicity that is to occur in later installments.

2. I've been told I overuse semicolons and em-dashes. Again, this is part of the narration form, though if they are too overbearing, but all means inform me.

3. Story is semi-lovecraftian, so I am aware that the main narrator is rather 'sane' for such stories. Again, one of the themes being degeneration, the character will undergo his fall into madness starting with the second chapter.

Hope you enjoy GV, and I look forward to what might just be a harsh, yet fair review.
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Hello, I'd like your opinion/review/help on my one-shot I wrote. I have already sent it to EQD once and I received my first strike (there comments will be at the bottom of this request). Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Oh yeah, I ran this through the Training Ground once.

Title- Mi Amore

Author- Shoeblock

Tags- Sad

Characters- Princess Celestia, Cadance, Shining Armor

Word Count: 3174

Synopsis: Shining Armor is in emotional distress over his marriage. He begins to doubt whether he actually loves Cadance or not. But behind all this, there is somepony else that he loves.

Link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qXDuSwoKefVKQFqmKt5MUBJEw6WsuxHQKhnnzED1Ipk/edit

EQD Pre-reader comments:

Specific Issues:
Awkward phrasing, stemming as much from adjective choice as show vs tell issues.
Rare comma splices.
Ellipses mistakes.
>said,“is // Spacing mistake.
Rare dialogue tagging mistakes.
>Ok // Spell it out, okay?

You’ve some work to do, not only on the grammatical angle, but on firming up the believability of your concept’s execution. The second to last line seems to cheapen everything you’ve built up to that point; consider revising that segment.

My Comments:
I've already did a run through of the grammatical issues the pre-reader noted but if you can catch more that's good too. Also, I've already changed the end a little, but I'd like your thoughts on it still.

The main issue I need help on is the awkward phrasing part and help on show vs tell.

Thank you in advance. I really hope I'm not asking to much from you and sorry if i came off as bossy.
>> No. 120096
G-Veezy! Gogt another one fer ya!

Title: Under A Luminous Sky
Author: Jake The Army Guy
Tags: Dark
Word count: 4893
Synopsis: Equestria is a land of peace. Violent crime is almost nonexistent. Ponyville in particular hasn't had a single case of equicide in all its years of existence. But nothing lasts forever.

A body is discovered in the Everfree Forest. Shortly thereafter, an enigmatic stallion arrives at the local library, dispatched by Celestia herself. Faced with an obstinate police force, Twilight and this strange new pony must put the pieces together and catch a killer. But as the blood continues to spill, one thing becomes terrifyingly clear: in the dark of the Everfree, much more is at stake than mere lives.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lB3PDLYiEmSU8kfph39TB1mfpwHhRme40obxvG-ktKo/edit

Okay. This one... I'm not sure about this one for some reason. It's shorter than my usual chapters, but I don't think that's it. I just feel like it's missing... something, but I have no clue what. You know my plot line pretty well, so any tips are mucho appreciated, along with your usual awesomeness!
>> No. 120103
Title: Twilight vs. The Birds

Author: Hepcat

My email: volkov_russkie@hotmail.com

Tag: Dark

Word count: 14,123

Synopsis: When a noisy flock of crows decides to roost on Twilight Sparkle's library tree, keeping her awake all night and refusing to leave, she eventually resorts to drastic measures to run them out of town. Unfortunately, Twilight realizes too late the terrible truth about crows. They never forgive or forget. And they have allies.

Link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/140AZL6tlUDsBmtCBguKkuQSQtdFjVDtV8ISwLUoVA0w/edit

Comments:
An Equestria Daily pre-reader had this to say about my story: “I didn't find this fic to be particularly interesting, and the plot was frankly frustrating. Twilight at least tried to use her magic against the parasprites, and I found myself wondering why she wasn't using her magic (even in a non-harmful way) against the crows as soon as they showed themselves to be hostile. This objection is somewhat subjective, but I suspect that many would agree with me.”

I wonder how true that is. The pre-reader’s first statement particularly discouraged me because I’ve read a lot of books on writing fiction and I assumed that I had integrated all the rules and techniques for a compelling plot that those books teach into this story. Namely: Clear character motivation, a strong goal vital to the character's well-being (at least in character's own mind). Character faces obstacles to the goal, experiences struggle/conflict with opposing force, suffers setback. Repeat. Each new setback to the character worse than the last. Use of strong character emotion via internal monologue. I attempted to follow this general principle: "If you make the character care, the reader will care."

According to at least one person on EQD, I was unsuccessful. What went wrong? Was the plot/pacing too slow? Was the story goal not compelling enough? How can I turn my story into a “particularly interesting” fic? If you can answer these questions for me, I will be greatly in your debt. Please be as in-depth as possible.
>> No. 120182
All right, time to bite the bullet and submit this to your critical eye.

Title: Star-crossed
Author: Belligerent Sock
Tags: [Adventure] [Dark]
Word Count: 9484
Synopsis: A fire in the Royal Archives. A mysterious, unreadable scroll. An enigmatic figure cloaked in darkness. Fate conspires to draw Twilight Sparkle and her friends into a quest that will take them across the length and breadth of Equestria. From high peaks to deep dungeons, from modern streets to ancient ruins, our heroines will delve into their homeland’s earliest history, and the revelations they unearth will decide not only their own destinies, but the doom of their entire world.
Link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NXFifaOx0rQXQHeDasIUT7McEakvDNnum7hV7Ghr9HE/edit

My main concerns with this fic are the plot and execution thereof, and I'm sure you can tell me what I've done right and wrong on both of those fronts. That said, thank you in advance, and I hope you enjoy the ride!
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Wow. I'm reading the comments you left in Doc, and frankly, I'm ashamed. I wrote "Showmare" about a month ago, and I can't believe it was as terrible as it is. I may even have to start from scratch. Well, all I can say is you've put a major dent in my ego. Annihilated is more like it. Anyway, thanks for looking at it, and I might have to take a breather before I dive back into it. It's that bad. But you knew that, you looked at it already.
>> No. 120454
Title: Clockwork Alicorn: Steam and Steel.
Authors: Tangus von Nohugh and Overlord Silvertongue
Tags: [adventure] [drama] [steampunk] [series]
Characters: Main 6 (Later), OC, Celestia, Luna.
Word Count:
Ch 1: 4918
Ch 2: 4570
Synopsis: When Thunder Clash and Sterling Slopes joined the crew of the merchant airship Verdant Shore, they expected a life of adventure and excitement. But when Equestria is thrown into a sudden and brutal war with the Changeling Horde, their dream of a leisurely life among the clouds is shattered, and Clash and his friends must fight to survive as the world burns down around them.

Links:

Ch 1: https://docs.google.com/document/d/171BzPhDA-IGmjoPL9qVcd7b5B2-pOYG01xnXBpv7VGY/edit

Ch 2: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fKVmd5mRrFc6KDxNC54QKVs2h6kZ8r8J0E2aLL5Aruo/edit

I am aware that it is horrible. We have tried editing it for about four months now. Thank you, if you take a look at this.
>> No. 120582
I forgot to mention that I'm also putting it in MintyRest's thread, too. Sorry about not telling you.
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>>120328
Ah-ah-ah—

But I haven't finished it yet.

I'm really sorry, by the way, for taking so long with it. I'll try and finish it up tonight along with the full review, so you have a better idea of where to go with it.
>> No. 120629
If you have time could you give this a look? I've been working on it for awhile, but I doubt its as good as it can be. I'm a new writer by the way.

Title: Unbroken Steel: Rainbow Dash and Starscream
Author: Mad-Mutt (Me)
Tags: Crossover, Shipping
Link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jOnEslMAzXh9Uchbt-PJF2UHYmaWcMAqAZegamPbZOM/edit
Characters: Rainbow Dash, Starscream
Word Count: 9,374
Synopsis: A shipping Fic about Rainbow Dash and Starscream? Yes that's what this is, but if you're expecting a sappy love story with a lot of kissing then you'd be wrong. It was a romance that was doomed to fail from the beginning... if you think romance involves constantly fighting and trying to destroy each other. Inspired by the Death Battle on Screwattack.com where RD fought Starscream and won. After falling into Equestria through a wormhole Starscream makes enemies with a certain rainbow maned daredevil. But can these enemies become friends, or possibly something even more? Very Unlikely.

Note: Yes I'm aware that the idea of this alone is probably insane, but I'm actually trying to do it right. I take the idea as seriously as you can take an idea that involves a giant robot and a rainbow pony and I try to remain respectful to the characters while also trying to make it a little funny. I do plan to submit this to Equestria Daily at some point and I can take criticism.
>> No. 120635
>>120629
Should probably also mention that this is a first chapter of a story.
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>>120635
Holy freaking shit hell's bells.

Okay, that's it. You're in the queue, but that's it. I feel bad enough leaving some of you guys in there for 10+ days.

OUR QUEUE IS NOW CLOSED UNTIL SUCH A TIME AS WE CLEAR IT ENTIRELY. I don't want to give anybody else false hope that I'll finish sometime before Season 3 airs.

So, yeah. Sorry guys. :(
>> No. 120652
>>120648
Wow, thanks, almost feel bad to be moved up the list like that.
I'm glad you're excited for my story, but to me its a bit of a double-edged sword and I get kind of worried it might not live up to expectation.
>> No. 120655
>>120648
Again, I'm sorry to say this, but I didn't mean to click the 'Yes' in the Resubmission thing. It was meant to be a 'No'. Sorry about that, I don't know how I made that mistake or how I didn't notice it until now.
>> No. 120658
Take your time, GV. Also, I may rescind my spot. Guesswork looked at it, and Shockwave is about to. I'm already a week behind my release date, so I'll let you know.
>> No. 120703
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>>118945
THE QUEUE IS STILL CLOSED!

Hullo, Rain. Sorry again for taking so long to finish this, but suffice it to say that your fic really needed it. I didn't even bother finishing the comments because it was just the same things, over and over again. That said, let's get started, shall we?

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TitleShowmare
I like the title. It's very evocative of an idea of what made Trixie a "show mare," why she does what she does, and what may be hidden beneath.

Synopsis
>She'd lost everything even before the Ursa attacked, but now, two years later, Trixie stumbles across Ponyville, looking for a fresh start, and an old friend.
This is very nondescript. I'd suggest something like.

>Trixie knows more than anypony else what it's like to lose everything. Living on the streets, scavenging for low-paying work does wonders for your ego. Two years after the Ursa Minor brought her life crashing down, a chance visit to Ponyville may be what she needs for a fresh start, and to work up the courage to meet with an old friend.

I mean, that's just my suggestion, but I feel like that's much more emotive of generally what you'e going for.

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Plot: 2/5
I'll say it here:

This should be 4-5 times longer.

Now, I'm not saying that for padding. Instead, what I mean is that you do the absolute barebones of what is necessary to get Trixie into Ponyville, give us a few scattered flashbacks, and then skip over the entirety of the real "story" to get us into the sobfest ending. It's cheap, incomplete, and almost a waste of our time.

Try something like this, instead:

Trixie comes across Ponyville accidentally (as she does in your story; the manner in which she meets the Mane 6 doesn't actually matter). Though she wants no part in this town, Twilight is able to see that Trixie really isn't that bad, and decides to do her best to help her get back on her feet—starting with housing her at the library. Trixie, being independent and, well, not social, resists, but Twilight offers her back her cape and hat if she stays until X time or event. Trixie stays, but only reluctantly.

From here, you can take any number of directions. Maybe Trixie tries to pick up a job from one of the Mane Six, or one of the ponies in town. Maybe she slowly learns how to build friendships again, and is conflicted over whether she wants to leave. Maybe she attempts to steal her cloak and hat away only to put them down when she realizes how much she's come to value her life in Ponyville. Maybe Twilight pulls the story of "The Great and Powerful Trixie" out of her, and learns about Sarf and Trixie's past.

All these things are the story that you should be aiming for. I have no doubt that you can pull it off—it's just a matter of choosing to.

Oh, and while we're on the topic, don't go with the abusive parents thing. Fine, maybe Trixie's an orphan, but don't play up the "oh, poor lost and abused protagonist!" angle. It's been done. Many, many, many times. Look at ff.net if you don't believe me.

Characters: 2/5
Quite frankly, your characterizations were incomplete, semi-incoherent and never consistent in the slightest. I wanted a real insight into Trixie's mind, how she perceived those around her, and how they perceived her in turn, and never got it. I wanted a real transition between Trixie's states of mind, and a viewpoint into the turmoil and chaos of her raging emotions. I wanted to really build up each character in my mind as one of complexity and conflict and feeling.

And I didn't get any of that.

Setting: 1/5
Frankly, this unforgivably shitty. I could give you a 2, but I really want to press upon you how freaking important body language and Showing are. Too often you'd skimp out on it by giving a halfhearted "she grinned" (I can be sometimes guilty of this as well), or else having lines and lines of naked dialogue. Not good. (Most of the explanation for this can be found in-doc)

Mechanics: 3/5
You need to proofread better. Dash mistakes, misspellings, and a few other errors abounded. It certainly wasn't some kind of My Immortal, but definitely not something to hold up as a paragon of grammatical divinity.

Enjoyability: 2/5
All in all, I really just couldn't get into this fic. The characters felt wooden, the plot didn't feel organic, and I felt cheated out of a real story. Make this 25k words if you have to—or make it a multi-part story! Just don't cheat the reader when they're actually readying themselves for a payoff that may never come.

And above all, work on your characterization. Other than body language (or the lack thereof), this was your single most defining flaw of the entire fic. Give us real, sympathetic characters. Or don't bother having them there at all.

Total: 10/25

Final Thoughts:

Okay, not it's time for me to be a bit nicer. I actually really liked your bit with Sarf (though it's a weird as hell name), and I really would have liked the ending with Trixie had there only been a legitimate lead up to her and her growth as a character. I think this fic has potential—it's a decent idea, and I think you can pull it off. But as they say, it's all in the execution.

Ready for EqD?: No
Rewrite Recommended?: Definitely expand it

Best of luck,
Golden Vision
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>>120703
Ouch. I knew that was coming, especially after hearing back from EqD. They're never going to accept it because it's a Trixie Origin, which has been overdone. But thank you anyway. Not only does this tell me what was wrong with this story in particular, it tells me what's wrong with most of my writing, and how I can improve in the future. I can watch out for these mistakes in the future now that they have a name, and a face. I am very happy to have come to you with this. Thank you. Thank you so much. [<3]
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>>120732
I am sorry, but something being overdone is the most bullshit excuse ever. Call it boring, call it grammatically a sludgefest, but calling it overdone in a medium where nothing is new is just incredibly stupid.

*goes away into the shadows*
>> No. 120818
Yo, GV! Okay, I had my prerequisite two people review my story, and your queue is boss-mode, so I posted the chapter. You can take me out of the queue.
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Hi there! My apologies for taking so long to review this. Oh, and:

THE QUEUE IS STILL CLOSED!

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Title: Pinkie Pie's Pineapple Pursuit
Good title. It fits the theme, general idea, and, obviously, one of your main characters.

Synopsis:
You had me up until "A pineapple ain't an apple."

Seriously. This was a big problem for your entire story. Would it really kill you to just say: "…Applejack's logic or Twilight loss of sanity stand in her way"? Using quotes as noun-modifiers (I refuse to give them the honor of being adjectives) just makes your writing look juvenile and clunky.

Additionally, I'd suggest having the last sentence be:
>What follows is a tale of science, romance, and pinecones.

(Note the switched order of "science" and romance"; it flows better this way)

Delete the "demonic entity" bit. It's disruptive, random, and generally unhelpful.

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Plot: N/A

Let's be honest here: this was a crackfic.

This wasn't a [Humor] fic, intent on satire and irony. It wasn't a [Random] fic, with delightful masquerades in the land of whimsy.

No. It was a crackfic, and I shall treat it as such.

Now, that's not to say it wasn't worth writing or reading. I enjoy crackfics (there are several good ones by Rorshach's Blot up on ff.net for the Harry Potter fandom), and I've even written one, but let's be honest here and admit there would be no point in examining this for plot.

Characters: 3/5
Your characters, again, acting on the premise that this was a crackfic, were fine enough I suppose. Your main issues were keeping their dialogue IC, and making their increasingly ridiculous characterizations believable. Even though you might want to make them insane, each must start from a reasonable baseline, which you failed to transition from. It's no good if everyone starts off being as crazy as they finish.

Setting: 1/5
This was shit. You need more body language, to Show, Not Tell, to better describe your scenes, and to just expand on your scenes in general. Too often did I feel that a scene started from a completely unwieldy point in time, or cut off to quickly. Transitioning and context are your friends.

Likewise, your diction itself was crappy. 90% of your non-dialogue sentences were "[Noun][Verbs][Noun]", with many adverbs and adjectives sprinkled in. Don't do this. It makes for an insanely dry read, and frankly, an over-simplistic style that isn't interesting in the slightest.

Oh, and kill all of your LUS. Immediately.

Mechanics: 3/5
It's a sad day indeed when I can't give someone a free pass for their grammar and spelling. You can clearly speak English, yet it's just as obvious to me that you didn't even bother to proofread; or if you did, that you need to find a better proofreader. Mistakes with ellipses, capitalization typos, awkward wording, and just general "ugh" was everywhere in this. Learn to properly punctuate dialogue, and you'll do well.

Enjoyability: 2/5
There were precisely two parts that I found amusing in this story. Both were associated with the same premise: Pinkie's mad scheme to breed a pinecone.

To be more specific, it was her confrontation with Applejack, and the "lewd pictures" that she had/

That said, I didn't laugh anywhere else. It just wasn't that funny. Believe me, the "Twilight accidentally summons something evil" thing has been overdone (and not just in humor), and yeah; you should send that Luna segment to the Moon faster than a Sonic Rainboom.

Crackfic can be good, if the author can see where he's being funny, and where he's just being silly or ridiculous in an unamusing manner. You need to take note of where you're weak, and to rework those sections entirely (or delete them.)

Total: 9/20
Adjusted Total: 11/25

Final Thoughts:
I'm just going to say this here, since I noted one of your own comments in the doc. Don't try for EqD. They do not take, nor do they condone, crackfics. While this is humorous, it's so outlandish so as to have no point in being submitted to a site that prides itself as hosting only "the best of the best" in terms of characterization, intricacy, and above all, thoughtfulness.

Okay, maybe I'm being mean. Your fic has its place, and that place may be on the front page of fimfic. But please, take my comments into full consideration. I only want your story to do well, and I would hate for any of your efforts to be wasted. The fact that I have a comedy fic featured both on EqD and the Featured Box might have some support for my opinions.

So, in summation: You can do better than this. Don't let a baseline, pandering crackfic be the highlight of your expectations.

Ready for EqD?: Probably never.
Rewrite Recommended?: Just take my revising advice above and you should be fine.

Best of luck,
Golden Vision
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>>119598

Holy freaking hell stones shit balls.

I...my head hurts. I barely looked at this for five minutes, an I can feel a headache coming on. I'm not kidding.

I'm fairly well known as being a fair, but sympathetic reviewer, so be aware that this isn't meant to be personal or insulting, but as objective as I can make it:

This fic was one of the biggest piles of shit I have ever seen in my existence as a reader of literature.

I'm not going to bother with plot, characters, or even setting. This fic was completely unreadable. Might I count the reasons why?

Grammar Problems, not limited to, but including:
Miscapitalization
Formatting Errors
Punctuation problems
Incomplete sentences
Ridiculous sentence structure(s)

And that's just grammar. Stylistically, this was just...I don't even know what to call it. Horribly bizarre PoV choices, rhetorical questions in the narrative, and even something as simple as a refusal to write numbers in English rather than as numerals all make this fic unreadable.

I could go on, but I won't.

I'm very sorry about the harshness of this review—nothing depresses me more than having to basically insult someone's entire ability to write in the English language, let alone being able to write fiction.

Maybe English isn't your first language. I don't know. But the bottom line is, if you're unable to write with at least barely proficient grammar and organization of thought, then writing probably isn't the career of choice for you. I would advise you to find something else to do.

Best,
Golden Vision
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>>121194
And the author's notes. Dear god, the author's notes.

I think I need therapy.
>> No. 121207
Went and looked for myself to see if it was a trollfic.

...

I would have preferred if it was.

Once I got to the story, I saw a disaster, yes, but not worse than the disaster that you would expect from your stereotypically awful writer who might be very young and is probably just not terribly literate. If it were me, I wouldn't say "give up" so much as I would "why don't you come back once you've finished a secondary education."

That said, I would have probably declined to even read it for much the same reason as you: In order to get to the trainwreck of a fic, I had to get through the multiple pages of "author's notes" that are so incoherent that I hesitate to call their dialect a form of English. I don't even know what was happening in all those author's notes.
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>>119889
Hey Garnot! I have to say, it was great talking with you in-doc. I have a feeling that those one-to-one, live interactions are a lot more productive than a dry review. Maybe I'll do that for my next thread?

Anyway, title's good, and we went over the synop earlier, so let's just cut to the chase, shall we?

Also: THE QUEUE IS STILL CLOSED!

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Characters: 2.5/5
I told you this in-doc, and I'll maintain it here: you need to do more to your protagonist, the doctor, to make him both sympathizable and more streamlined. His characterization was jumping all over the place—PTSD war vet? Slightly insane mad scientist? Old, sorrowful old man?—and I wanted a consistent character that I could really get into the head of. As he was the only character that really got any development, I'm going to have to use his harsh review as the sole basis for this category.

Plot: 3/5
I liked the idea quite a bit, as you know, but I'm going to encourage you to move away from the "science is corrupt/unbound by morality" angle that you're playing up in the hospital and other scenes, and instead try and make the characters and environment sympathetic, yet somewhat flawed. Have the director be cynical because of his own path, yet empathetic with Twilight's drive to do more research into the unknown. Basically, be Black Mesa, not Aperture Science.

Also, have more happen/. Six thousand words and not a whole lot happened at all. Give us some development outside of your protagonist's head.

Setting: 3/5
Try and set up your scenes better, and use present tense instead of past. I'd also advice you to use my recommendations for chapter/PoV/character organization, but you seemed to like the idea, so that's good.

Mechanics: 3.5/5
Mainly diction, word choice, and sentence structure issues. Not too shabby, though.

Enjoyability: 2.5/5
A lot of the time, I either didn't really have a frame of reference for what was going on (lack of characterization), or the actual events weren't engaging (the discussion with the Director). Try and draw us in more with the character's thoughts, but also make him a bit more reactive—more things happening in the background of your fic adds complexity and depth both to your characters and to the setting in which they live.

Total: 14.5/25

Final Thoughts
Most of the problems in here came from this being a first-person fic, which by nature are notoriously difficult to get right. However, after out lengthy discussion earlier, I have no doubt that it's something you can pull it off. Note that my offer for being an idea/chapter-bouncer offer is still extended. My email's in my post.

Ready for EqD?: No
Rewrite Recommended?: Yup

Oh, and also, might I suggest you doing your best to get at least halfway done, and then uploading this circa Halloween? It might be thematically appropriate, and it'll certainly help you get more attention (given the genre).

Regardless, best of luck, and speak to you soon!
-GV
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>>119940
Hi there! Let's get reviewin'!

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Title: Mi Amore
Nice title. I like it.

Synopsis:
This is kinda shabby. It could be written much better, and…well, subtler? With more feeling? The way its written looks like, well, the work of a poor fanfic writer trying to explain why KirkxSpock is horrible and why Naruto would be much happier with Sasuke.

Here's a suggestion:

>They all say that love conquers all. I've seen it for myself. And for the longest time, it was my rock; my foundation.

>Love was the cadence that filled my life with music.

>But what do you do when love becomes nothing more than empty lies and shadows? What do you do when the things you thought you could trust fade? What do you do when everything falls apart?

Of course, this synopsis makes a lot of assumptions. For one thing, it might completely fail to reflect the undercurrent of your story that leads into your "twist." But it does one thing—it gives your 1st PoV some representation in your synopsis, and makes it into something more engaging than just "oh noes shining doesn't love cadence anymore :C"

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Characters: 1/5
From the second I laid eyes on your characterization of Shining Armor, I absolutely despised it.

Pressing on, though, I made it through the rest of the story and managed to reach the ending, which contained the twist that seemingly justified or explained his every action.

I still fucking hated him.

Let's be clear. This was not a fic about Shining Armor being under a magic spell, and being forced to love Chrysalis against his own will, with a tragic ending that meant that he was happy, but twisted, and that his sense of self had been lost forever.

No. This was a fic that, for 80% of its own time, consisted of Shining Armor being a pretentious douchenozzle who would have been more at home as a beer-bellied, self-centered asshole on Jersey Shore or Honey Boo Boo than a thoughtful commentary on manipulation and magic.

Here's what I'll suggest, and you might want to listen, because if I hadn't had to read through the whole thing to review it properly, I would have ragequit the second SA started ordering Cadance around about "errands" while sitting on his fat ass.

Your main problem throughout this whole thing was believability. Quite simply put, it's completely impossible to believe that this is Shining Armor, brother of Twilight Sparkle, and honorable Captain of the Royal Guard. Maybe you intended that. But your point would have been much better made had there been a running undercurrent that implied that things were not all as they seemed. Maybe Shining suffers from headaches, or nightmares. Maybe Cadance's face seems to transform into something disgusting to him. Maybe he's been to a psychiatrict, and was affected so much by the psychic imprint that he's lost his job.

Note that all of these things might be too much. And that's okay—maybe something a bit more subtle would work better. But the point is that they keep the reader thinking. They keep us wondering and doubting; questioning the basis of our own assumptions.

The way this is now, the first 2.5k words are completely unbelievable. From Celestia not having any worry or taking any notice about Cadance's relationship, to Cadance being such a thick dunce for not noticing anything ("element" of Love, anybody?), I couldn't believe a word that I was reading.

And that's a shame. I really think investigating the potential aftereffects of mind control, and the psychic damage that it leaves on the "abused" victim, could be a very interesting topic. But you don't have that. All you have is "douchebag Shining", who is then absolved in less than 500 words at the very end because, "It's okay. It was Chrysalis all along."

And that's not okay.

Plot: 2/5
Let's be clear here. There wasn't really much in this fic in the way of real plot or development. No; most of these three thousand and two hundred words was a round-table discussion over how poor Shining Armor is stuck in a relationship that's completely horrible and that we should feel bad for him, and oh wait, never mind, because—

WHOTTA TWEEST
>pic related

Yeah. It doesn't work. Nothing happens, and it's really just a tug-or-rope war between Shining's fading feelings of loyalty (which never existed in the first place), and his love for this "other pony" (who you sloppily make us believe is Celestia. And when I mean sloppy, I mean sloppy. There is a subtle way to do this. The way you did it was anything but). I wanted inner conflict—real inner conflict, not just the angst that teenage girls have when they think "OMG life hates me!11!" You could have made this characterization and plot a lot more complex and interesting than you did. But you didn't.

Setting: 2/5
Body language is a wonderful thing. So is setting up a scene. Learn to use them, please.

PS: Also, you need to vary up your sentence structure a LOT. Sweet Jeebus. As I said in a comment, there's more to life than [noun] [verb] [adverb] [modifier] [period].

Mechanics: 4.5/5
Eh. You can speak English, which is always greatly appreciated.

Enjoyability: 1/5
Now, I'll be the first to say that I'm actually a big Shining Armor fan. Hell, I wrote a fic about him! The entirety of Twilight's "family" (bloodline and royal) is one of my favorite parts of the series.

That said, I feel like you did his character, Cadance, and even Celestia a grave injustice in this story.

I've expanded upon that plenty above. Heck, the believability thing is your biggest flaw; the idea is technically workable, but the execution is most certainly not. Just asking questions of the story on a basic level, I could say, "Why did Chrysalis even want him there? Wouldn't he be more useful to her as a spy? How could he even provide her love in the first place if he had never loved Cadance? If he actually had loved her at one point, then where in the hell did the Giant Lovey-Dovey Shockwave™ come from, anyway?"

And so on. I believe you get my point.

Total: 10.5

Final Thoughts:
There are many fics where I'll compliment the idea, and then go straight after the style by the throat.

This was not one of those fics.

Oh, you can certainly write, and possibly even write well. You have a good grip on the mechanical aspects, at least, and your prose isn't nearly as dry as you might have been led to believe above. Your problem is all in the execution; in your inability to convey the idea without making it into something that your readers will completely despise.

Maybe it's me. Maybe it's just the way you laid it out. Maybe it's even the idea itself. But quite simply, you need to rework this entirely. It just doesn't work.

Ready for EqD?: No
Rewrite Recommended?: Very much yes.

Best of luck,
Golden Vision
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>>121743
Should have replied to this a bit sooner.

Anywho, thanks for all the help GV, your advice so far has been invaluable. You will most certainly hear from me again, and quite soon I might add. I'll also heed your advice about the story being fit for Halloween, though with my schedule, I'm not sure I can have several chapters out by then, at least chapters that are readable at any rate. I will try though.

Till we speak again.
>> No. 123043
Hey, GV I've been meaning to get into contact with you again over the writing, but I had some troubles with my computer and I lost your email address. Could you get back to me?
>> No. 123047
>>123043
I think he's dead.
>> No. 123065
>>123047

I conversed with him just the other day, so I can report that he is, indeed, possessed of enough higher brain function to type somewhat legibly. Unless some necromantic plague has been unleashed upon this world without my knowledge (entirely likely) I'd take this to mean he's still alive in the traditional sense.

>>123043

And for you, mate, I can confirm that the email address he posted in the OP is still in use. You can try that route at your discretion.
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>>123043
>>123047
>>123065

D:

...Hi guys. Sorry I haven't been following this thread lately. No, I'm not dead (or at least I hope so), and I've merely been too swamped in work to really come on /fic/ much, if at all (joining a Highlander TF2 team hasn't helped in the slightest).

Anyways, I'm actually planning on re-opening my queue this weekend. I want to get out of this funk, and back to reviewing, ASAP! I think I've got a good schedule worked out.

So, see you all then!
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>>123114
Can't wait! Got a new chapter ready and waiting!
>> No. 123127
>>123114

Just to give you a poke: any chance I can get some clarification on that synopsis issue you mentioned?
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>>123127
Sure! Sorry I haven't gotten back to you on that yet. I can try and help you out with that sometime this Saturday, if that works.
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>>123114
>joining a Highlander TF2 team hasn't helped in the slightest
I had nothing to do with this. Also, we need to lobby together some :c
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*crouches down, ready to pounce as soon as the queue opens*
>> No. 124362
Note that you all can find my new thread at: http://mlpchan.net/fic/res/652.html#652

See you all there! :D
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