>>68668
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citalopram
(celexa)
The mechanism of action of citalopram HBr as an antidepressant is presumed to be linked to potentiation of serotonergic activity in the central nervous system (CNS) resulting from its inhibition of CNS neuronal reuptake of serotonin (5-HT). In vitro and in vivo studies in animals suggest that citalopram is a highly selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor (SSRI) with minimal effects on norepinephrine (NE) and dopamine (DA) neuronal reuptake. Tolerance to the inhibition of 5-HT uptake is not induced by long-term (14-day) treatment of rats with citalopram. Citalopram is a racemic mixture (50/50), and the inhibition of 5-HT reuptake by citalopram is primarily due to the (S)-enantiomer.

Citalopram has no or very low affinity for 5-HT1A, 5-HT2A, dopamine D1 and D2, α1-, α2-, and β-adrenergic, histamine H1, gamma aminobutyric acid (GABA), muscarinic cholinergic, and benzodiazepine receptors. Antagonism of muscarinic, histaminergic, and adrenergic receptors has been hypothesized to be associated with various anticholinergic, sedative, and cardiovascular effects of other psychotropic drugs.


But they have been wrong before I have never heard of this but that is not the same as it being true. The only thing that has ever helped my issues of those natures has been exercise. But they proscribe antidepressants for that lol.

It's not required around here to avoid anon. It's just that sometimes people need to connect thoughts when answering in a conversation that is a chain of replies. This is what the browser remembering some things is useful for lol.
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In fact, just to have fun...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudafed

Sudafed might be.

Pseudoephedrine
The active ingredient (as the hydrochloride salt) of the original Sudafed. In the UK, this is now sold under the name "Sudafed Decongestant".

Phenylephrine (hydrochloride)
These products are sold as alternatives to pseudoephedrine formulations. In the United Kingdom, formulations containing phenylephrine are sold under various names (Sudafed Blocked Nose capsules, Sudafed Blocked Nose & Sinus capsules, Sudafed Mucus Relief Triple Action Cold & Flu tablets, Sudafed Sinus Pressure & Pain tablets, and Sudafed Day & Night capsules). In other countries the name "Sudafed PE" is used.
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>>It's not required around here to avoid anon.

Well just in case everyone cover your ears and line up against the wall.

Ugh, fursuit statistics are always painful to try and explain. Even in furry it is only around ~10% or so. When someone has one already, odds increase in that one person owning more than one, so the 5-10 in Royal's post may only translate into like 4 people.

They require a special kind of personality that is willing to except the stigma of going out in one and that it shouldn't be taken too seriously. (Except fursuit musical chairs, then it's on.)

If you're planning on getting one, please be careful and stay hydrated. Don't feel obligated to give yourself heat stroke or anything because people are enjoying you.

If you get one DO NOT just assume that every place ever is cool with it. You wanna wear it bowling, call the alley first, etc.

P.S. have fun.

>>72191

I get too hot just without a fursuit. I think I would literally die in a fursuit unless it had an active cooling system.

>>72216
those are things, but they cost a fuckton of money

>>72161

And I second this statement, too. Definitely.

>>72159

Right now? Heck no. This place ain't even close to bein' a police state.

>Do you believe that the US is currently a Police State?

Not yet but it's steadily getting there.

>Right now, do you personally feel the integrity and discipline of our Police forces are adequate and that they serve the people and the constitution?

Depends on where you are. My local, county, and state police do a fine job despite all the crap they have to deal with in today's bullshit "fuck the police lel so edgy" culture.

Now as for the government and their government agencies they use to push their strong arm dictatorial policies like the DHS, CIA, and the BATFE I don't trust those assholes as far as I can throw them.

kolubousa se enan vourko kapou eperpe na ftasw, ta nera htan polu vrwmika kouvalousa valitsa mazi mou exasa sta nera mia valitsa mikrh me kosmimata prospathhsa na swsw merika , meta eftasa se ena spiti sxedon kainourgio kai fainotan panakrivo den hthela na katsw polu mono kapoies wres g na ksapostasw, sthn telikh kathhsa para panw..sthn porta tou spitiou ligo argotera emfanistike enas kurios k mou proteine na me parei mazi t me to aytokinhto gt pernouse apo ekei pou hthela (mallon) . Arxika hmoun dustaktikh meta den kserw ti apofasisa telika.Epita emfanistika sto spiti st xwrio mou ksaplwna se ena krevati kai etrwga leuko pswmi vlepodas tv enw pio dipla htan h giagia m me ton baba m kai milousan tha pigainame se ena gamo alla den kserw poios padreuotan egw hmoun apala kalesmenh.(ola ta proswpa vriskode en zwh).Sth sunexeia vrethika se mia parea eida ton kollhto mou na mila me mia filh mou pou htan gorgona.Mesa se olo to teleitaio sumvan kati erwtiko paizotan me enan ksaderfo mou makrino ( to opoio einai alhtheia kata vash alla exei ginei h istoria prin polla polla xronia, pleon exw na ton dw polla xronia.)Ston upno mou loipon aytos o ksaderfos me koroideue episis htan se ena karavaki se mia limnh kai diaskedaze enw egw me thn parea m eimastan st stergia. Thumamai mia skhnh xarakthristika pigainame panw st spiti tou kai sthn porta ths aulhs dld molis ebaines eixe padou fyta kai mou zhthse na gduthw teleiws pisw apo ta fyta omws eixe kameres kai fwtografikes kai ksafnika efoson vghka apo to spiti eida ta ologumna opisthia m se mia terastia othoni eksw apo to spiti tou..eixa pathei sok alla apo thn allh skeftomoun pws telika den einai k asxhma!hahaha par'ola auta bika ksana spiti tou g na allaksw ayto pou eixe sumvei.. meta me ksupnhsan.. an borousa na meinw ligo akoma sto astriko mou pedio . an borousa na dw kai na zhsw k allo se ayton ton kosmo pou vriskete mesa mou..niwthw pws ekei den xanw ton xrono mou akoma kai an ayta pou vlepw einai paranohka..

>>72088

>But the animators also got the body movement down. They added in small fidgets, ticks and habits that really help the characters come to life. When the ponies get worried, they slant back their ears, wear the correct expression on their face, lean backwards, maybe lift up a fore hoof off the ground. They telegraph their emotions quite clearly. Go back and watch a few of your favorite episodes. Don't pay attention to the story, just watch the characters. How they react; how the talk; how they deal with eachother.

>That, I believe, is one of the larger factors that makes this show popular. Because the animators are damn good at their job.

It's definitely one of the reasons I love the show so much, and I noticed a long time ago how well emotion was done in the show. The little tics here and there are amazing, both at conveying emotion and being adorable. It's pretty impressive how quickly we'll associate something like bent ears to an emotion, too, even though we don't innately have ears to bend.

>>72105
>I can hear the cries of "conservative!" and "knee-jerk!"

Now now. Let them say it, then skewer them. Just keep the trap ready in case you meet someone who will fall into it.

As for me *shrugs* I was a furry first and I blame that on Disney and others.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDWnuddCf0E

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As a "clopper" myself i can agree with a lot of the points made here, with the exception of >>72074. While this is certainly a factor in the attraction, I find my own attraction to the ponies to be a great deal more physical than emotional. Not to say that there is no emotional attachment, but I find physical traits to be much more attractive and important than personality traits.

>>72149
Hi OP!

Most cities have police departments with crime maps as RS mentioned. I found one for Baltimore.
http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/md/baltimore/crime/

I don't know where you are staying but the area where the Baltimore Convention Center is located seems OK, watch the north west though.
http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/zipcode/md/baltimore/21201/

as im from the baltimore/dc area, my experience is to stay away from essex. people there tend to be leaning towards the "crazy" side of things. as in loony bin.

>>72150
>>72152
>>72154

Thanks guys!

This would really help. I'm planing to register a booth and sell arts in the convention and I don't wanna lose all the cash I earn

>>72134
Do you think that sexual abuse of children has but a marginal sexual component?

>>72139
I kind of agree with you here but I also agree with >>72134. It is a valid point that in the case of sexual child abuse, there are more issues than just an uncontrollable sexual urge from the pedophile. It will vary from case to case, I'm sure, but this implies that in some cases, chemical castration will not be a solution to the problem, and then it really will just be revengeful physical harm, which a state justice system should not engage in. You can't justify castration if you can't prove that it seriously contributes to solving the problem, and if the rapist committed the atrocities because he or she enjoyed the domination and control, then castration doesn't seriously contribute to solving the problem.

On the other hand, this doesn't mean that the sexual aspect is irrelevant, either.

>>72143
>>72139

I am not dismissing the sexual aspect of rape.

What I am saying is that the sexual aspect stems from and is a means to an end for asserting dominance and authority, and taking away agency. It comes from a rapist not recognizing the target's humanity and equal value to themselves. There is a justification for it in their eyes. It's acceptable enough that the individual can go through with the urge.

I will give the concession that once in a blue moon, it happens out of a complete ignorance. Like children exploring sex on others (I'm not gonna call it "Playing Doctor").

On another note, I'm honestly pretty frustrated now that I look at the OP and we're making this distinction between raping one demographic and another demographic. As if there's a noteable enough difference between raping a drunk woman, raping a preteen niece, and raping another rapist in prison. It's the same irreprehensible, irrational, immoral act.

>>72141
You highlight a main problem with my posts. I don't fully understand your preferential consequentialism, and I've been taking the easy route of just criticising utility.

Would you like to take a step back, and have another go at explaining it, bearing in mind our previous discussion about utility, to make clear what you think I've been missing? Because I certainly think I've been missing stuff.

Only if you want to, of course. I do have one - just one - question to carry from our previous discussion before we start again, though. Is preferential consequentialism a selfish philosophy, and if so, how would you defend it against the predictable moral criticisms?

And we have kind of derailed this thread, but nobody seems to mind, so let's continue.

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>>72142
>Would you like to take a step back, and have another go at explaining it
Sure. So let's start by looking at the second word. Consequentialism means that we're going to make our moral decisions based on the consequences of the decision. Which requires that we have some way of distinguishing between consequences that are good and consequences that are bad, and hopefully some reasonable justification for which is which.

All consequentialist systems, if they want to be consistent and apply to the real world, can be represented with functions that take states of the world and map them onto real numbers. So here's one example:

utility : U -> [-inf, +inf]
utility(U) = total_pleasure(U) - total_pain(U)

This is the function used by classical utilitarianism. U is some universe state, and the number returned is the total amount of pleasure happening in that state minus the total amount of pain happening in that state.

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>>72155
Apologies for the delay. I promise I will get to this eventually.

>>72098

Yeah, that was my first guess, but I don't usually go along with society so willingly.

On the other hand, my morals have almost unquestionably been shaped in some way by society and my surroundings. That's just kinda how they work.

>>72072

Not especially, no. I find morality incredibly subjective, on the whole. The one thing that might trump the rest of my morals, though, is loyalty. If my friends somehow successfully pilfer an entire nation's coffers and they request my help, I will probably help them so long as I am reasonably sure they won't fail and their plan won't backfire.

As it is, though, I don't need money badly enough to steal it myself, and I generally prefer getting thanked for helping people more than I'd ever enjoy any amount of cash. So even with my incredibly questionable moral stance, my actions are still generally viewed as good.

>>72108
You wouldn't steal to save your own life, but you would have no problem not only associating with someone who stole what must be billions of dollars and left millions to to die, but would be willing to help them.
That's an.....odd morality.

>>72111

I really don't place a lot of value on my life.

>>72096
>>72097
From what I've read about the different versions of Strawberry Shortcake, the '03 version and BBA were two completely different shows, with '03 apparently focusing on educational things, morals and simple adventures. BBA is, in lack of a more fitting description, a girly show that isn't afraid of being very girly, a rare occurence on modern cable telly. So I do mostly understand why the different fan groups rarely like each other's shows.

>I'm thinking Lifetime Movies of the week or something. That seems like the sort of stuff they'd pull.
Pretty much like that, though it's a bit more widespread as far as I can tell. One example out of many being the season finale of the second-to-last season of House MD (I think it was Season 7), where House and Cuddy breaks up, and House drives his car into Cuddy's living room out of jealousy; though even this is a situation I'll be careful talking about, as I merely read it as a "Wall Banger" note on TV Tropes (The Wall Banger in that note being that there could have been people in the living room to run over).

It's common enough for me to have become really tired of the drama cliches, so I pretty much stick to variety and cartoons nowadays

>You should, though the both the 1980's specials and 2003 versions have a huge amount of characters.
I'll see if I can find some of it to watch, though I cannot guarantee anything. It's usually interesting to try something new.
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I see the topic of discussion here is Strawberry Shortcake. Since I don't watch the show, I can't really give my opinion on that.

However, I can offer my reason on why I watch MLP. Why do I watch MLP? Yeah, the art's good, but that's not the reason for me. Yeah, it has geeky references, but that's not the reason for me.

For me, the reason is because it offers me a happy and simple world without descending into the saccharine. That latter part is very important. It is a realistic kind of happy, not obviously fake and overdone. I live in a fairly grey world (no seriously; it's a maritime climate and therefore very cloudy) - because of the climate and because of my low general level of happiness. To have a colourful and happy world in MLP - and better yet, a fairly realistic and believable world of happiness is incredible.

So, I like MLP because it's colourful and happy, but still rooted in reality. Maybe the 2009 version of Strawberry Shortcake is uninteresting because it is too unrealistic and bland?

>>72106

Well, The Girl Show Ghetto and girly shows in general, as well as the characterization of girl characters.

This is a real problem in science. There are multiple reasons for this and fixing it will take some effort because it means making people give up information, or publish information when they don't want to.

Part of the reason is that negative results are not "sexy". Journals want "Awesome Findings!" not "our hypothesis was incorrect". The second one does not sell and they want to sell to people.

Another part of the reason is that these kinds of results don't look good on a CV. Imagine a scientist who gets mostly negative results. They do all the right things, they had good justification to carry out the research, but in the end they were wrong. Are they a bad scientist? No. But they will not get attention like a scientist with positive results would.

Western medicine is effective. They make drugs that save lives and help people. But human nature being what it is, the system has flaws and is expensive. I don't think anything on the level of suppressing cures to sell treatments is happening, but I have heard this issue discussed many times over the years, even at the basic research level outside of medicine. Its wasteful financially too because that research money could be spent elsewhere.

In fact one of my favorite bloggers is reading his book and is also very concerned about similar issues (There is nothing anti-science or anti-medicine about PZ Meyers)
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/03/14/call-for-an-accounting/

The same human group behavior that messes up economies can make drug companies do bad things.

>>72032
This thread should probably be moved to /chat/.

I believe it's serious enough to be on /dis/. It doesn't need to be a text wall to be discussed seriously.

Obviously they're upset about what's happened to some extent.

>>72027
>>72026
Same pony, and your OP coupled with your history suggests this is an attempt to coerce us into a snafu, so i shall be locking this thread.

this is such a good idea.

advanced level

So what I'm about to say might offend some people, it has before: sorry ahead of time. If you want to play the social game you have to figure out the 'rules'. If you think it is manipulative of me to suggest this, thats fine and I respect your opinion: but not learning how the human social interaction game mechanisms work and/or refusing to consider how to use them while also reinforcing your relationships is going to leave you way behind in the 'social arms race' to people who do this naturally and even without thinking. If you think it is some kind of merit to act like you're 'above' these mechanisms and hence above using them in effective ways, well good luck with that attitude: you're human just like the rest of us, these mechanisms impact you even if you think you can not participate in them.

First and foremost, I would suggest a book or audiobook to you 'why him why her' by helen fisher. This will give you some tips on relationship types, personality types in relation to relationships, how those match up and how to spot these types through visual and audio cues, and what these types like and dislike about other types. From here you can identify your 'type' and look for your 'matching types' to flirt with you. Now you start to understand how this whole 'love at first sight/lust at first sight' thing is working. Play to your advantages. Play to theirs.

I am going to go with my suggestion about picking a venue or event weekly or bi-weekly to attend regularly, because this will get you 'established' socially. It will likely be slow and unwieldy at first, but just keep working at it and your 'social life' in that setting will start to crop up. I'm a very quiet person so it took me about a month before I noticed this, but just keep investing time and effort and remember to relax and have a little fun. DRINK RESPONSIBLY DO NOT GET A DUI OR THIS WHOLE EXPERIMENT WILL BE OVER. If you don't like to drink, offer to be Designated Driver sometime down the road: I genuinely think that my role as DD many times actually la

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>>71948
First, forget the idea of a "beta male".

Humans are not predestined into different castes. Humans are not wolves. Even then, contrary to popular opinion, wolves are not ruled by one big strong dominant aggressive "alpha male". Wolf packs are usually lead by an alpha >>couple<<. The "alpha male" thing comes up because humans project a lot of their nasty ideas about themselves onto wolves.

You don't get girls because "girls" are a vast and complex group of other human beings, as easy and as hard to get as "guys". That's one of the things that the show teaches us: there are many ways to be a girl. Trying to apply "women lessons" from a man who has only dated Rarities or Pinkie Pies when you are courting a Rainbow Dash or Twilight Sparkle will lead to disaster.

>>71948

Hi OP!

You have gotten way better advice here than I could possibly give. I'm an introvert by choice and since that is the opposite of your issue I have to be really careful because it's a bit alien to me.

I would just say pick a single thing to focus on at a time and take it slow. Human interaction is extremely important but it's also a thing that can make someone run away and call the whole thing off.

It might sound silly but take the advice you got above and pick something that seems silly and easy for you to accomplish. That is your baseline. From there you ratchet up the complexity as much as you can handle. Getting burned can just be a new lesson if you are deliberate about it.

>>71972
How would you pity a disease?

>>71972
Sorry, that's a short and very useless answer. I guess the point I meant was that the phrase only really applies to people, because there's only really use in pitying people (or animals in certain situations, but definitely not "things" or diseases etc).

The point of the phrase, I suppose, is a call not to let hatred cloud our judgement where pity would be a more valid response. So, if a bad thing happens, instead of hating the cause, perhaps there is a reason for the cause, perhaps there is cause for pity there, and perhaps we can help - instead of hating and exterminating it.

It sounds bleeding-heart liberal and very wet, but in reality I think it's quite a good logic.

>>71974
>How would you pity a disease?

Actually this is fine. I did not mean to imply that we should pity a disease, except in some idealistic sense perhaps. I saw my post as expanding on what you were talking about. Sorry if I strayed a little off-topic. I was giving an example of something relatively unambiguous as a target of hate.