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77238 No. 77238 [View]
To what degree are the negative psychological effects of rape socially constructed?

Yeah, this was originally going to be a troll thread, but on reflection, it's actually a legitimately interesting topic. Let's consider a less emotional crime, say theft. If someone takes an item of value out of your backpack and tells you that you're never going to see it again, you'd feel kinda violated, right? Well, what if the purloiner was a TSA agent acting in his official capacity? You'd still be pissed, but wouldn't feel as violated, right?

Now consider a society in which certain high-ranking officials are, by custom and law, allowed to rape certain other persons in certain circumstances, e.g., the probably-apocryphal jus primae noctis of certain medieval jurisdictions. Would that type of rape be less psychologically damaging?
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>> No. 77270
Rape and murder are violations of personhood, and both are crimes that do damage to something that cannot be replaced. In both cases, the revenge instinct is largely I think an overcompensation for our failure to protect, rather than a rational solution to the problem.

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Why don't we feel the same about general violence then, though?
>> No. 77277
'general violence' is random in the damage it causes, but I expect that people would feel similarly if someone were intentionally and deliberately crippled.

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77190 No. 77190 [View]

One "Edward Slingerland" writes of a concept he feels needs to be retired.

of "Scientific Morality"

Impressed by the growing explanatory power of the natural sciences of his time, the philosopher David Hume called upon his colleagues to abandon the armchair, turn their attention to empirical evidence, and "hearken to no arguments but those which are derived from experience… reject every system of ethics, however subtle or ingenious, which is not founded on fact and observation." This was over two hundred years ago, and unfortunately not much changed in academic philosophy until about the last decade or two. Pushing past a barrier also associated with Hume—the infamous is-ought or fact-value distinction—a growing number of philosophers have finally begun arguing that our theories should be informed by our best current empirical accounts of how the human minds works, and that an ethical system that posits or requires an impossible psychology should be treated with suspicion.

One of the more robust and relevant bits of knowledge about human psychology that has emerged from the cognitive sciences is that we are not rational minds housed in irrational, emotional bodies. Metaphors like that of Plato's rational charioteer bravely struggling to control his irrational, passionate horses appeal to us because they map well onto our intuitive psychology, but they turn out to be ultimately misleading. A more empirically accurate image would be that of a centaur: rider and horse are one. To the best of our knowledge, there is no ghost in the machine. We are thoroughly embodied creatures, embedded in a complex social and culturally-shaped environment, primarily guided in our daily lives not by cold calculation but hot emotion; not conscious choice but automatic, spontaneous processes; not rational concepts descended from the realm of Forms but rather modal, analogical images.

So, the ironic result of adopting a scientific s
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>> No. 77239
I did it because I was otherwise going to use > but then I'd have to go down the entire thing line by line so I just spoilered it.

>it seems really rambling.

Yeah but the jist of it is still there. 'Scientific Morality' is a dead horse we should really stop beating, if not at least think about what we're doing when we try to come up with a 'scientific morality'.

I had to read it over a couple of times to feel like I was getting his message.
>> No. 77240
Whether our minds are properly set up to process things rationally is kind of irrelevant, honestly. It should be self-apparent that logic cannot tell us why we should do things, only how to do them more effectively and efficiently. Our end goals can only be derived from emotional attachments.
>> No. 77248
I read the "Moral Landscape" by Sam Harris recently.
He defined morality to be synonymous with human well-being.
He made pretty good case and has addressed most of these concerns.
You might want to read it.

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77205 No. 77205 [View]
I haven't been on this site in awhile.
I left because at one point, I felt I was in a place where my beliefs were looked down upon, and, had no chance to be properly discussed.

This isn't about that though. I came because I could just say everything that I have bottled up, and won't be verbally violated.

I am an unhappy person. I would like to blame everyone but myself, but I know deep down that it's all on me. I can't control myself, the most regular part of my day is taking a shower, same time, every day for the past two years. Other than that I keep digging a hole. I barely accomplish anything in school anymore and I am starting to hate everyone that I know. My only solid abilities are creativity and I know what little value that has these days. I want all sorts of things I can't have or just won't ever posses because of my loathing. I am judged for the way I look, and regret ever doing anything out of the norm, as I live in a religious farming community. The only reason I continue anything I do is so others don't come to bother me. My parents have been blamed for my actions (or lack thereof) and although I can say it was their fault, I can't seem to change. I have one attempted suicide and regularly scrape skin off of my arm in a nervous manner. The only person I thought had a true caring side for me is turning into a nightmare. They and their family ridicule me in public, and I'm constantly made out to be a joke in my school as fallout from this. I started having different thought patterns after I was put on anti-depression medications. The singular person I have had true feelings for doesn't share them, yet still wants to be my friend. it's some of the worst emotional riff raff I deal with on a day to day basis. I feel like all of what people know me for is the role that I play, and I don't talk to others about myself because they just don't understand. Sometimes my morose mood can turn into a slow boiling rage, and I think of hurting others because they are simply present, but I haven't done anything violent yet. I am finishing school this year and barely comprehend mathematics. I have lost interest in
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>> No. 77229
Can we ask in what creative field your talent lies?
>> No. 77231
I'm artistic. I can draw well, paint, work with junk, sculptures, clothing, all sorts of things.
>> No. 77237
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Hi anon. I can't promise that you won't get criticism here. Criticism is allowed (though I wish it was always constructive), but abuse is not. I don't take kindly to abuse on this board.

But I am a big believer in the idea that for anyone to really deal with their problems, they need a community of some kind to talk about those problems with. You have to get them out of your head and make objects out of them that become solid unchanging things or things that you can make more accurate after thought that you can connect to other thoughts instead of just think about. Journals can work, but we evolved to screech at our fellow monkeys and that method is probably best.

>I am an unhappy person. I would like to blame everyone but myself, but I know deep down that it's all on me. I can't control myself, the most regular part of my day is taking a shower, same time, every day for the past two years. Other than that I keep digging a hole. I barely accomplish anything in school anymore and I am starting to hate everyone that I know.
You are unhappy about a pattern. That is a good start. You have something to analyze. However saying it is only you would not be wise. Most of the time these things involve more than one person, but yes there will be elements that you are responsible for.

>My only solid abilities are creativity and I know what little value that has these days. I want all sorts of things I can't have or just won't ever posses because of my loathing.
A common flaw in creative people is focusing that creativity in an organized way. Creative people can make lots of connections between things and that requires an element of category breaking (among other things). Unfortunately that very ability to see past the things that exist and create things that don't yet exis

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77235 No. 77235 [View]

Smedley Butler writes, in his book "War is a Racket"

>I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.

What do we have to learn from the Banana Wars?

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76512 No. 76512 [View]

I think we might be able to save the world with food.

It sounds kind of silly, but if you think about some of the problems that plague us today as a species - and the world around us, quite a lot of them are fueled by our quite changed relationship with food.

But, this is only thinking about how our sustenance relates to problems - what if we applied food as the solution? Its such an incredibly flexible platform to work from, and the market and need and ability to apply solutions with food exists everywhere we do.

I think its possible we could actually eat our way to a better tomorrow. Maybe not even only possible, but... it just sounds really easy when put that way, doesn't it? Eat your way to a better existence. I am still thinking about how this might work, but here are a few key points that give this idea some leverage I feel.

'Food' is something we need every day to survive. Everyone consumes this, constantly - lets direct this consumption in intelligent, focused, and efficient ways to make changes in the world by directing consumer dollars with two main goals in mind: to purchase food as close to its raw form as possible, and to the best practices possible in that local economy and environment.

This means removing as many 'middle men' and food processing steps as possible and by directly linking into local economies instead of transnational corporate accounts.
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>> No. 77232
>Your system comes up short in the first day.

I really don't know how many more times or how much better i can say this, but I am not proposing an either-or I am proposing a both-and.

Even still, saving 15% on food costs per week is notable. 15% per window.

thats a pretty big asset if you have even a few windows

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>> No. 77233
So how are you going to convince people to turn their windows into a mini-farm?

And I don't mean just apartments, the window count also included businesses. How would you convince them?
>> No. 77234
People are already doing it, if there were enough monetary incentive for doing so, it could be turned into a kind of welfare program - grow food, get enough money for rent and to subsist.

should be easier as a nonprofit, so taxes aren't a big drag on it

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77198 No. 77198 [View]

Hey, guys. Just thought I'd pop in and see how the oldfriends are doing.

Not sure why I decided to pop in, but whatever. Yes I know this isn't /chat/ but the community isn't the same over there
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>> No. 77202
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Oh hey, boredhooman. How's it going?

(What is your story called? :3)
>> No. 77228
Going good. Nothing really exciting happening.

"A New World, A New Threat". I use my trip as my name on FimFiction
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Hi boredhooman! Nice to see you are still kicking around.

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Okay, so we can all agree that stable democracies is a bit absent in the middle east sans Turkey, Israel, and kind sorta Iran (they vote but the choices are all picked before hand). Why is this?
Other democracies such as Iraq and Afghanistan is on the verge of a civil war or at the very least unstable.
Other countries in the Middle East such as Saudi Arabia and Oman are an outright monarchy.
With this some may wonder how Democracy can spring up in Middle East.
I have a hypothesis if you will indulge me.
Iran is our best chance at creating a stable, Islamic (as in demographics), secular democracy.
My reasoning is thus:
Iran is a stable country and more than that, it has an educated middle class with educated men and women who know they can have a better life and who don't have the same steam that propelled the Islamic revolution that overthrew the Shah all those years ago.
They already have a good structure for democracy, all they would have to do is reduce the Ayatollah to a religious figure with no temporal power, just spiritual. The Guardian Council would also have to go, as they choose who runs, this runs contrary to a democracy (as we know it here in the west).
If they take care of those two factors it would take much at all for them to be a stable democracy at all.
They are also Shia Muslims, no Sunni. Why is this important? Sharia law is a Sunni concept, not Shia, thus you will not have a great number of people arguing for it's inclusion into the law.
What do you people think? Does Iran have the best chance at being a democracy? Or would a nation like Egypt get there first? Perhaps Jordan or Iraq even?
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>Unfortunately, the UN decides what the UN shows interest in and what it shouldn't show interest in.

Then of course you have their obvious bias against certain religions, like for instance when they just recently came out with a report telling the Vatican what to do about certain things they think the Vatican should address, yet they won't tell the Ayatollah in Iran and the other Islamofacists and other violent religious extremists like him that run most of the governments in the Middle East to do the same things they just tried to bully the Vatican into doing.

Example, the Vatican doesn't like homosexuality but leaves gays alone, but in Iran they don't like gays and in turn kill gays. But the UN chooses to ignore Iran and attack the Vatican.

And don't even get me started on their Antisemitism.

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>> No. 77189
> Iran and attack the Vatican

It depends on what the context is really, but I could see the vatican being much easier to target and probably to influence than Iran.

I'm really not aware of 'religicism' or whatever we might want to call it, on part of the UN.
>> No. 77197
The Vatican has made it clear it does not bow to the UN either. http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2014/02/07/fr_lombardi_sj:_note_on_childrens_rights_committee_findings_/en1-771101

To pick out a few points:

Father Federico Lombardi, director of the Vatican Press Office, released a lengthy response Friday to the report given by the UN Committee on the Rights of the Child. In his statement, Lombardi said the committee’s recommendations went “beyond its competencies” to “interfere in the very doctrinal and moral positions of the Catholic Church.”

The Committee’s remarks gave “indications involving moral evaluations of contraception, or abortion, or education in families, or the vision of human sexuality, in light of [the Committee’s] own ideological vision of sexuality itself.”

As CWN reported [www.catholicculture.org] that the Vatican spokesman “strongly suggested that the report had been drafted in advance, without waiting for the Vatican’s own report.”

“Finally, one cannot but observe that the tone, development, and the publicity given by the Committee in its document are absolutely anomalous when compared to its normal progress in relations with other States that are party to the Convention.”

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76211 No. 76211 [View]

Would legalizing all drugs be a solution to the war on drugs that America has been losing for the past few years? Would all kids become crack hoes? What do y'all feel?

I think it would be totally helpful, especially so people won't be thrown in jail for stupid reasons like possession, using, or selling drugs and leave jail for the folks who deserve it. Also, for people to have more control over what they put in their own bodies. If someone wants to smoke crack or shoot up heroin then I say more power to them, it's their own life and they should be more than able to.
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>"Glenn Greenwald, the attorney and author who conducted the research, told Time: “Judging by every metric, drug decriminalization in Portugal has been a resounding success. It has enabled the Portuguese government to manage and control the drug problem far better than virtually every other Western country."
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Steve Cohen lays it down on C-SPAN


"With due respect, you all need to listen to scientists"

"You can't handle the truth. The truth is, the DRUG WAR FAILED."

"And until you deal with the truth, the kids aren't going to believe you at all."
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Yes. Drug laws ruin lives, right down to the source. There are farmers in the middle east who are forced to grow the constituent plants in drugs to earn a living by their culture, and then imprisoned for life by that same culture. It's absurd. Plus, at least legalizing it would mean it could be regulated.

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77154 No. 77154 [View]

I guess this is the board for this.

The recent tragic events in Raleigh have brought an outpouring of sympathetic messages and gifts to Michael Morones and his parents from the brony community -- after the fact. Is there something we could have done beforehand, and should do in the future, to help support or defend kids and others who get persecuted in various ways for being fans of this show?
>> No. 77155
There's not much we can do, preventatively, to stop bullying and persecution, other than have a sense of solidarity together, and try to be the change we want to see in the world.

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>> No. 77156
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There was nothing any of us could do beforehand, since it was not public knowledge.

Furthermore, what would you propose as preventative measure? Is a collection of bronies - internet geeks, to be honest, many of whom are under 21 - really going to be able to influence bullying in schools across the USA and across the world?


Generally I'm an optimist and I don't like cynicism, but I really think that the idea of bronies somehow being able to have an influence on bullying in schools is a complete pipe-dream.

As for "supporting" bullied children, that is unwise. It is far, FAR better for a bullied child to be supported by their parents or their teachers, not by unknown people of unspecified age and background across the internet. It is one thing for bronies to get actively involved in charity work, rights and tolerance and all that, but where other people's children are involved, that is a complete no-go zone.

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>> No. 77174
>kid tried to hang himself
>guy on FB says "hang in there"
I'm so going to hell for having chuckled at this.

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76777 No. 76777 [View]

Should India back off of Bayer's intellectual property?

Should Bayer reexamine its priorities in the healthcare industry?

What do you think about the Nexavar patent saga?

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>> No. 77149
>Frankly, the corporate world needs a reminder that if they refuse to negotiate reasonable prices, people will just take what they need.

That seems like the sort of mindset that would only discourage a corporation from selling in that market. It is why PC gaming is starting to flounder, because pirating has discouraged them from making games for that market. (I don't want a subject change, just an example)
>> No. 77151
Well, perhaps then they'll think about the cost of losing entire nations as markets in future negotiations.

If, as the public statement of their CEO seems to attest, they're not interested in saving the lives of Indians, then India's government is left to do what's best for its people regardless.

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>> No. 77157
>That seems like the sort of mindset that would only discourage a corporation from selling in that market.

What does this matter to the markets they weren't going to sell to in the first place? It should have more or less no consequence to them.

It seems clear this drug was never intended for cancer stricken indians because they don't have the kind of money to afford its price. The overwhelming majority of people on this planet don't.

If we are really trying to provide what patients need and we are asking if the patient can afford the medicine, treatment, procedure etc and the answer is no, the next best question as a provider to ask is 'can they obtain it?'

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74490 No. 74490 [View]

Dear /dis/

I have a problem. A very major problem at that. One that relentlessly gnaws at my soul every single day of life. That problem is that I hate humans.

Not as in I merely dislike humans, or find them annoying or simply not worthwhile to interact with. I mean I HATE them. As in hate them to such degrees that mortal words cannot come close to fully enveloping the feelings of disgust, loathing, contempt, animosity, bitterness, revulsion, abhorrence, enmity, and outright hostility that I experience every time I even think of the word 'human'.

As you can imagine, the fact that I hold these feelings towards mankind whilst simultaneously being surrounded by 7 billion of them at any given time, poses a major detriment to my life - and makes me a very, VERY angry person.

Is there any way to resolve this issue of mine, preferably without all the time and effort it takes to become a supervillain and exterminate the fleas with some kind of doomsday device?
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>> No. 77137
I'm missing something here- why? What is so different about humans than other animals? Why humans, specifically? All of them?

Why not go find a place of refuge somewhere where you'll never have to see another human again? Or does the very idea that they exist somewhere conflict with you? (Then, in the entire vastness of the universe, what would you make of the very likely existence of very humanlike species on some other far away corner of space?)

Does it have a philosophical basis or an emotional basis? Or perhaps it's a rationalisation?
>> No. 77139
Humans are different from other animals because we are the most dominant, and the most poisonous to all of the other ecosystems on earth.
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To be honest, that is spectacularly illogical. Observing all of humanity in balance, I see not nearly enough grounds for disgust, loathing, contempt, animosity, bitterness, revulsion, abhorrence, enmity, or outright hostility. One particular problem is the superiority you exhibit, especially in your disgust, contempt, and revulsion. It's an unhealthy way of thinking.

But who am I to speak of a logical and healthy mind? I have spent a large chunk of my life with a very unhealthy mind that was incredibly illogical and bubbling with hatred. Not directed, like yours is, just blank hatred - which, when not turned on anything external, often turned on myself.

It's good that you confess it as a problem. If you'd come here and said "Why is humanity so hateable?" I'd say you're a douche and you need to rethink your opinion of the world. But I think you are right to acknowledge it as a problem, and that's the first step to solving it.

I'll suggest a few ideas. I have no professional qualifications but I do have some experience in cognitive behavioural therapy - that is, actively changing the way you think.

1) Think hard. Try to apply a bit of logic. Firstly, what's the point of hating 7 billion people? You'll never meet more than a few thousand and never know more than a few hundred. Even if you could meet them all, what would you do to them? Someone wise once said something like "Hating a person is like taking poison and expecting them to die". Your hatred is harming you far more than it harms them. Try hard to let go of your hate. Leave cynicism outside. Relax. Think about other things.

2) Do you have any close friends? A friend can reaffirm your faith in humanity. I know that friends are pretty much the number one thing to keep me out of depression. A friend can help to lighten your mood, and show you that people can be good, and nice. And also that doing good things with good people is more fun and productive than hating everyone. Also, you can tell your friend that you have a problem with hatred, and they can help you get over it.

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77138 No. 77138 [View]

My dear /dis/,
Of the various online realms in which I dwell, this has been by far one of the most consistently stimulating. Due in part to the inspiration you have caused me over the last year, and for the conclusions you've helped me draw, I have been able to form my own philosophies regarding this universe and our existence.

I'd like to posit an idea for you today.

"There is nothing more important that represents both the individual and the collective human experience, than knowledge."

I've approached this from various perspectives, mainly scientifically, psychologically, and philosophically. In regards to science, it represents the true systematic nature of determining 'what is' and 'why it is', as a product of reason and the scientific method. Through experimentation and observation, measurement and collectivized experiences from across the world, we've built libraries. Nowadays, a great deal of this information is housed as part of the series of servers and networks many of us connect ourselves to everyday. I know I cannot be the only one on this board of thinkers who has realized that the content of the internet reflects our most primal needs. Innate desires to tap into that raw knowledge determined and written about by scientists and leaders of various fields wane in the accessibility of trivia, but we know the value of a 'fact' old holds so much weight without the knowledge that supports it... don't we?

The appeal to our psyche is too vast and intertwined with philosophical thinking to get into today.
I'll suffice by saying that our priorities and motivations shape our personalities, and there have been studies that show that the most curious of us, or high in 'openness to experience', thrive when we get what we want.
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You. I like you. I've always thought this way, but nobody has put it as succinctly as you have.
I've dedicated my life towards learning as many things as I can. I've started with programming and I'm only moving forward from there.

What you're talking about IS epistemology. Welcome to the board, Erika~
>> No. 77142
In my conclusions there are four areas, and I would not say any one is more important than another.

Epistemology and knowledge, one flowing from the other. The body of scientific knowledge springs from the human conception of logic and mathematics. Common knowledge comes from conceptual metaphor and unconscious, automatic reasoning. Religious and ideological knowledge is perhaps grounded in acceptance of an authority.

Ethics and behaviour, one flowing from the other. The behaviour of a Stoic springs from the Stoic conception of virtue. The behaviour of a utilitarian from the utilitarian view of ethics. The behaviour of a Christian from Christian theology.

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76153 No. 76153 [View]

A while ago, I happened upon an interesting story, a story of racism. The person in question was talking about an experience he had in his younger years as an upper middle class (IIRC) black youth. The story was about how he felt pressured into looking for racism where it didn't exist, to the point where he verbally attacked a teacher or professor (I don't agree that he was completely undeserving of it, mind you).

This is an interesting topic and one that bears a bit of discussion, but the reason I'm bringing up the story in question is because I would like to introduce it as somewhat of a source for a post I'd like to make on the issue. Try as I might, however, I cannot find it.

If one of you have read it and can direct me to it, I would much appreciate it.
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Unfortunately, no.

I did just get a lead, though: Losing the Race, by John McWhorter. I'm looking into it now. Whether it has the actual story for which I'm looking or not, it could be a very useful source, and it does look promising as containing that story. I need to do some more checking, though.
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So in case you're still interested in this, it was something by Shelby Steele, an essay called "On Being Black and Middle Class" [l-adam-mekler.com] (links to a .doc file). I was looking through some old books while I was without internet for a while and found it in the same book in which I had found it the first time. My memory of it was a little inaccurate, but it's still an interesting read.

I'm definitely going to use some of John McWhorter's work in this discussion, but I'm also going to have to reference Shelby Steele.

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>> No. 77135
Interesting. You can also find it in PDF format format. http://www.smartercarter.com/Essays/Essay%20Documents/BlackandMiddleClass-Steele.pdf

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76404 No. 76404 [View]

Is the taboo against incest primarily biological (e.g., Westermarck Effect) or primarily cultural?
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>> No. 76429
You are oversimplifying things. The Egyptian Royalty viewed themselves as gods incarnate. Many royalty viewed themselves in similar fashions, either ordained by their supernatural figures or carrying some other reason to explain why they exist outside of and above the rest of the world.

Their acts of incest, bestiality and more that goes against biological, cultural and societal reasoning was done because they believed that they had a right to do them due to their special existence whatever that may be.

Murder might be wrong for a mortal, but not for one who is a god or ordained by god. In fact, they can reason that it is their right to do as they please with their subjects and with themselves and each other.

I feel that when presented with something that might give the impression of 'this is wrong' to them, they would only lash out and do it with a stronger vigor to prove that nothing is wrong for them to do so long as it is good for them.
>> No. 76430
>You are oversimplifying things. The Egyptian Royalty viewed themselves as gods incarnate. Many royalty viewed themselves in similar fashions, either ordained by their supernatural figures or carrying some other reason to explain why they exist outside of and above the rest of the world.

No I am providing an example. If in a single case incest occurs we can look at it and think about how it managed to happen. Viewing themselves as gods is the excuse they used. Folks on the ground would have had their own excuses and that fact does not make the example of the Royalty become meaningless.

>Their acts of incest, bestiality and more that goes against biological, cultural and societal reasoning was done because they believed that they had a right to do them due to their special existence whatever that may be.

And just how do you think "incest happens"? That sounds like a possible formula to weaken an instinct to me, though I don't personally know if that description is accurate. Every time incest happens there are reasons and no singe example is illegitimate. They all matter.

>Murder might be wrong for a mortal, but not for one who is a god or ordained by god. In fact, they can reason that it is their right to do as they please with their subjects and with themselves and each other.

Same story for murder. Every time it happens where are reasons and you can't just rule an example illegitimate because they are high ranking humans and not street level humans. Sure some of the reasons for the actions change, but the reasons and actions still exist and we can still talk about them as singular examples of incest.
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These people are full of crap [ponyconfessionscommentary.tumblr.com]. Please stop believing them.
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Sorry everyone but the site rules about explicit text still count here. Talking about sexual things is fine but if it starts sounding like you are narrating a porn then lines have been crossed. Derails into the explicit stuff from OP is also a problem.

If you want to have a thread about sex toys that would be the experiment that has not yet been run. We are trying to leave room for it but we still have the general rules to respect. Talking about them, not narrating your experience. I know it's tricky but it should be possible and over time we will find a balance.
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I can safe search Pinkie Pie without finding porn. Turning safety off, I can find like a couple pics of Big Mac x Pinkie making cupcakes in there.

When I search for Trixie, there is ironically Fairly Odd Parents fetish stuff in there somehow. (I don't know, I never searched for FOP R34)

I do remember even at work that there was R34 Pinkie Pie macro in between safe searches; Felt more like troll images, though.

I still tend to believe that the fandom being overly sexalized is a more contrived issue than anything else.
>> No. 77129
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I'm kind of frustrated, here. I typed up a dissertation on some of the replies I got here and just assumed that the thread had been deleted when it said that there was an invalid thread ID.


In order to get to KYM, the kid would have to scroll (and I mean actually scroll) past much more likely sites, then to get to the pages that talk about explicit things, they'd have to scroll past several pages' worth of stuff that is, quite frankly, rather boring, then click on a very few specific set of links. Keep in mind that this wouldn't actually lead them to pony porn, just some fandom clop-related terminology that would use terms with which a four year old wouldn't actually be familiar.

>That's a textbook strawman.

Actually, no. It's called "recognizing a common theme." Pinkie Pony, IIRC, posted the first of these stories, and since then, quite a few people have started sending (usually anonymous) messages claiming the same thing. The stories follow a common theme, with some slight alterations. The vast majority of them refer to them finding it in an image search, and this story has all the same themes, but is missing that one detail. As an analogy, if I were to disprove an alien abduction story, would I then need to disprove one that followed all the same themes, but was missing one or two details?

>She thinks sex is gross? Well we live in a pretty puritanical culture and at four years old she's almost certainly been taught that her private parts are dirty and need to remain hidden. That could easily lead to her reaction.

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