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Greetings and Introductions!



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Hello everypony and welcome to /dis/, Ponychan's discussion board. Here you'll find threads ranging from controversial topics such as politics, scientific development and religion, to more lax threads meant to share opinions without being overly formal. As you may imagine, given the freedom to discuss these topics, some ponies may inadvertently say or do things that hinder fruitful discussion and bring about unnecessary conflict. Due to this, we have created a set of guidelines that should be followed. Please make sure to read them before posting, as to avoid any misconceptions or confusion.

Please keep in mind this is not /chat/. Although there's no need to write textwalls (unless you want), try to write more than a sentence or two in your posts, and keep in mind you may have to wait hours for a response. Remember all global rules apply to /dis/, and general respect and courtesy is appreciated in this board no matter your opinions or the opinions of others.

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You, Ponychan, and Posting in /dis/

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>>71660

I think what's up is I can't use the quick reply box. If I toggle the basic box up then I get tags, but if I use the thing I normally use for everything I do not get tags. Just a PonychanX problem, I guess.


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I've long talked about or thrown about this idea in various forms. I wanted to make a place where we could come up with topic ideas for dis and generate them at regular intervals if they seem to have high potential (however you want to define potential).

We have some new structure proposed for /dis/ and its up to us to attempt the new system. This is also a way for us to work on doing threads according to that system and populating /dis/ with those threads.

My brain has been coming up with some great ideas today with other things in my life, and I think I might be able to continue the same mood after I get back from a little social outing/live dubstep event. In the meantime lets hear constructive ideas for thread topics in /dis/ and lets try to decide on one or more for maybe thurs or fri by vote.

Lets take until then to revise and brainstorm on some good ideas for /dis/ topics that will be entirely worthy of being saved to the archives!!
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>> No. 76069
Anyone else think it would be cool to be able to post video to /dis/ ?

I mean, I love lectures. I love to share them, but, I don't think many people have the patience to listen and watch something maybe 15-60 minutes long.

But I think /dis/ might have a few more of those people than other places.


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My name is Samuel Miller. I am communication PhD student from the University of North Dakota. My current research focuses on the Brony fandom and I am conducting an anonymous online survey. The survey asks questions related to demographics, media consumption, and fandom behaviors. This is an extension of my previous work that sought out some of the same data, but this one has an emphasis on the growing issue of Brony bullying. With the recent media stories of Mike Morones and Grayson Bruce, this matter of harassment becomes more important to understand. Recently, there have been a number of videos produced by big name fans like SaberSpark that discuss how a Brony should handle relationships between their fandom and their family and how Bronies should conduct themselves at McDonalds while asking for the "girl's" toy that generate a number of gender based questions. Because of this latest trend, I am also concerned with the notion of the "private" Brony and how they monitor themselves to reduce the risk of being "discovered" and putting their masculinity at risk. The reason that I am researching all of this is to hopefully understand what this fandom may mean for masculinity and gender studies because it is one of the first popular movements in which men are openly embracing perceived "girly" imagery and the consequences that it may bring.

I am looking to gather as much data as I possibly can and the survey will be open until the end of the year. There is also an incentive for individuals to participate by offering them a chance to win a pony plushie. A plushie maker by the name of Xsjado78 has agreed to make a pony plushie for the random winner. I have enclosed all of the links associated with this study and I hope that your forum as well as other fans will share all of this information with with other fans. The more information that I can gather, especially from the fans who are too shy to outwardly express themselves due to these external pressures will be a great contribution.

The Study: https://und.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_3KuRmxbP3ML7STj
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>>77740
>>77740
Before I choose to participate Mr. Miller may I see some credentials?

You have not so much as provided an email at this point and I'm sorry but that suggests to me I need to ask you for some more information that doesn't require external links.

Your student ID card maybe picture maybe? A few photos of your work that won't taint the results like maybe a long and lengthy explanation of the study which might impact the answers you get could do?


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#Discussion

Wiki:


>Oligarchy (from Greek ὀλιγαρχία (oligarkhía); from ὀλίγος (olígos), meaning "few", and ἄρχω (arkho), meaning "to rule or to command") is a form of power structure in which power effectively rests with a small number of people. These people could be distinguished by royalty, wealth, family ties, education, corporate, or military control. Such states are often controlled by a few prominent families who typically pass their influence from one generation to the next, but inheritance is not a necessary condition for the application of this term.

>Throughout history, oligarchies have been tyrannical (relying on public obedience and/or oppression to exist) or relatively benign. Aristotle pioneered the use of the term as a synonym for rule by the rich, for which the exact term is plutocracy. However, oligarchy is not always a rule by wealth, as oligarchs can simply be a privileged group, and do not have to be connected by bloodlines as in a monarchy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligarchy


Here is the Princeton study. Or you know, they could maybe just be jealous that Harvard and Yale seem to be where all the major finanance and political figures come from.
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>> No. 77734
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Isn't de facto oligarchy one of the human universals?
>> No. 77736
>>77721
>>77727
It could just be that Princeton is jealous of Harvard and Yale and so made something to tarnish their image and maybe the richest country in the world with the highest population of billionaires isn't actually controlled by them and their special interest/business interest groups, and our votes really do matter and really aren't being marginalized by all the voter restriction legislation.

It could just be that Princeton is jealous. Razor de' Occam don't you think?

>>77722
>>77726
>This is an oligarchy with the trappings of a democracy.

My thoughts exactly. I want to point out that elections can easily be set up so that even while conducted properly, people still have little choice (just don't give them the options).
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Bill Moyers speaks with economist Paul Krugman on a book recently published called "Capital in the 21'st century" by economist Thomas Piketty.

2:28 if you want to skip to Krugman's interview.
http://billmoyers.com/episode/what-the-1-dont-want-you-to-know-2/

important quotations by krugman

>“What Piketty’s really done now is he said, ‘Even those of you who talk about the 1 percent, you don’t really get what’s going on.’ You're living in the past, you're living in the 80's you think that Gordon Gekko is the future... and Gordon Gekko is a bad guy, he's a predator, but he's a self made predator - and right now we're talking about Gordon Gekko's son or daughter. We're talking about inhiereted wealth playing an ever growing role. He’s telling us that we are on the road not just to a highly unequal society, but to a society of an oligarchy. A society of inherited wealth. Patrimonial Capitalism...”


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77738 No. 77738 [View]
#Question

I haven't seen it yet but just caught wind this is the biggest thing in ratings (viewership) history, and that it will be broadcast all over the world in a hundred and fifty or so languages and just may get the same general ratings response. Suggesting it could actually be a fucking big deal.

Have you seen it? What do you think?


(a word about ownership)
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77629 No. 77629 [View]
#Discussion

Hi /dis/, I'm a biosciences major, soon to graduate, and recently I've been thinking a lot about the ethical implications of biotechnology, and I am curious to hear what you may have to say on the matter.

Basically the issue arises when I think about our manipulation of micro-organisms. Let me elaborate. Very often the goal of biotechnology is to manipulate organisms to produce a compound or process which is beneficial to humanity. This is accomplished in a variety of ways, including forced mutation of the original organism. This can involve exposure of the organism to intense UV radiation, or other potent carcinogens. In this process millions of micro-organisms can be produced and killed before a desirable one is found. And then very often the desirable organism is only capable of surviving in the extreme conditions presented to it by intensive production.

Here my quandary arises. We use such techniques on various bacteria, fungi, and even some plants to obtain what we want or need. But if similar methods were ever applied to macroscopic animals, I imagine the outcry would be extreme and immediate. Why is this? How can we subject some organisms to intensive selective processes, rendering them mutated and unsuitable for survival in natural conditions, but at the same time vehemently reject the biological exploitation of macroscopic animals?
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>> No. 77707
>>77633

Most people have a very poorly developed system of values.

This leads to them valuing something, like a dog, over something like a microbe, with no idea why or any reason to back up their feelings. The 'value' of the dog comes from positive emotional responses, because it's cute and fuzzy, while the microbe only evokes negative emotions or none at all, so it has no 'value'.

This is a very American problem.

As America's system of values, once founded on Christianity, has been attacked we haven't replaced it with anything. Not humanism, which would give leeway on sub-human organisms, or karma, which would prohibit harming anything, or existential nihilism, which would let you do whatever, because nothing matters.

If you don't have the problems others do with the exploitation of macroscopic animals, it's because you don't value them as much, or you value their use to humans more. Be careful, though; if you don't have a reason behind your values, you one day might end up curious as to why people disapprove of exploiting humans. After all, from one point of view we're only macroscopic animals. Why shouldn't the fortunate exploit the disadvantaged?
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>>77629
No matter how much we would want to define and quantify the line between ethical and unethical, sooner or later it will boil down to where a certain person draws it according to their beliefs.
Personally, I tend to look at the issue from two points of view: the consciuosness level and the personal relations.

As much as it is hard to quantify consciousness of a creature (IQ is one of the measurements, but it's hardly sufficient), we can, more or less, estimate it bassed on mutual relations. Microorganisms are not conscious, plants are not conscious, insects not really yet, then we have small animals, bigger mammals etc. And the ethical restrictions should be, IMO, proportional to this. This may seem cynical to some people, but I consider it to be the most logical approach.

Personal relations, on the other hand, can mess all this up. Of course if you have a pet rabbit, you'd rather shoot a wild dog to protect it. I grow some plants on my windowsill, and they matter to me more than many animals I don't "personally know". My heart would probably broke if someone cut down the huge birch that grows next to my house.

I am a PhD student in biochemical engineering. I work with fungi, and I grow and destroy their biomass by kilograms. If I was to mourn over all of those microorganisms I have killed with cold blood, I would go nuts.

>But if similar methods were ever applied to macroscopic animals, I imagine the outcry would be extreme and immediate
Well, there are cases like this, and not single ones. Bovine genome manipulations in order to turn them into living bioreactors have been carried out. Besides, what about eugenics? We have been doing this for centuries, to alter genomes of, for example, dog, cow, chicken, etc. by selective breeding.
>> No. 77737
>>77629
I wonder if there just isn't enough money in it yet.

Also: people are very visual creatures, the microscopic are rather invisible to us. We don't really find many people that empathize with the microbes but we do find them that empathize with larger animals. A few unsightly pictures would probably be all the public needed to be disgusted and possibly involved.

When there is enough money to be made doing it it will be done I'd imagine, unless repressing it makes more money somehow. I'm convinced when the time is right we will get on with modifying larger animals and ourselves in transparent manners to survive unusual climates, like space, mars, the moon, or if things on earth get bad enough maybe even here.

That time feels right around the corner.


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77723 No. 77723 [View]
#Question

So we all know the standard argument: "Video games are poisoning the minds of our youth and making them more violent!" And we also know the standard response that irritates the shit out of me - "Hurr durr if that was really true then I'd be dressed up as pacman and running round and chasing fruit".

Clearly the real contention is that violent video games normalise and glorify violence and aggression, encouraging people who play them to imitate those characteristics. This does not transfer to games like pacman or pong because you cannot physically relate to pacman or pong.

My question is, is there any scientific evidence to support either side? I don't know what to make of it. I'm not really a gamer myself so I'm not very knowledgeadble.
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>> No. 77730
>>77729
It's basically claiming that video games are addictive. Yes, it has traits that can trigger addictive mindsets. Especially MMOs. If you have ever seen a Level Up in World of Warcraft, it is a bright glow, a wonderful sound, a message. It gives a feeling of accomplishment and they design it so that it takes more and more time between each of those feelings of accomplishment.

However, it only causes addiction in minds already prone to addiction. If they didn't play MMOs, they would find something else.

Now it is a fact that while playing video games, a lot of people have spikes in emotions. Like you demonstrated, it can cause spikes in aggression, violent mindsets and other negative traits. But pull them away for five minutes and that spike rapidly falls off.
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I do know from personal observation that people focused on a game get irritable and angry.

Heck, I get pretty irritable when I play games.

Not like I'll go on a violent crime spree, but don't try to suggest me putting the game down when I wanna finish a level.
>> No. 77735
>>77733

Doesn't everyone get like that when they're focused on something? If I'm trying to solve a riddle or math problem or crossword puzzle, I don't like getting interrupted. And I get just as pissy from losing at any other kind of game as I do with a video game. I think that's just basic human reaction.


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Do you think castration is a good punishment for male rapists? What would be a good punishment for female rapists?
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Castrating a rapist is like chopping off a thief's hands. Bit too medieval, dude. Unnecessary.
>> No. 77705
Absolutely not!

That is just brutal and unnecessary.

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>> No. 77731
Speaking as a rape survivor, all I've ever wanted from the people that've hurt me was to understand what they did, feel remorse, reconcile and move on to be a better human being that doesn't rape anyone again.

I don't see why that has to be a tall order.


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77667 No. 77667 [View]
The first thing that I'd like to note here is that what I am referring to as "pseudoscience" here is not directly aimed at pseudoscientific per se, but at something that is broader yet narrower.
Pseudoscience, in my book, should be understood as wild claims, either untestable, made up, or in any way neglecting the basics of scientific method of investigation. Fighting against claims that pseudoscientific phenomena should be treated equally with phenomena backed up with actual evidence would make sense for many, but in this discussion I want to address only the ideas which should be considered dangerous when it comes to pseudoscientific propaganda and/or data manipulation.

There are obvious branches of pseudoscience that are very common, often cringeworthy, such as UFOlogy, creationism or astrology, but they are usually mostly or even completely harmless. We can argue with people supporting them for fun, but personally I don't see anything directly wrong in believing in such stuff.
Things get complicated when beliefs in myths can indeed be harmful for the believers and their environment, both indirectly and directly.
Anti-vaccination movements, which basically kill people and significantly lower herd immunity
Anti-GMO propaganda, which greatly contributes to hunger in 3rd world countries.
Organic farming activists, whose ideology leads to less efficient and thus unecological growth,
Natural medicine organizations, which lead people away from drugs that help them with health problems
The list can go on.
But it is not my goal to make the list of harmful ideas. My goal is to find a good way to get through to people who follow such ideas. We could laugh in their faces and feel superior, but that would change nothing. The biggest problem is that pseudoscientific solutions usually are supported by huge lists of miracles provided by the idea X, which seem very compelling. Plus, they usually attack the established solutions as outdated, toxic and otherwise evil (usually the arguments regard government and pharmaceutical conspiracies). On the other hand, we have the solutions brought by science. Backed up by observations, rigorously tested and proven
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>> No. 77717
>>77715
Yeah, learning the types of logical fallacies is very important and useful. Though I also noticed that they usually just make the opponent angry. Those who consider inviting pseudoscience into logical reasoning tend to think of themselves as "open-minded" and putting them into the logical fallacy basket gets them piiiiiiissed.
>> No. 77719
>>77717
The irony, of course, is that pseudoscience is actually less open-minded than regular science.
>> No. 77720
lets vaccinate our children thanks


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77656 No. 77656 [View]
#Discussion

Lately I have been thinking a lot about comic books. I read them an awful lot and find them to be fairly enjoyable. Recently I was looking up elective classes I could take for the Summer and Fall semesters at my university. I came to discover that (what probably wouldn't be a shocking revelation) there was no class on the subject of reading and/or analyzing comic books and graphic novels. The university offers several literature based classes ranging from several periods of time and styles of writing. Why is it that the comic book industry is undersold when it comes being considered a work of literature? I feel that they have just the same stake in the matter as any other book or short story you would find in a literature class that is worth analysis on. Books like Watchmen, V for Vendetta, The Dark Knight Returns, and many other comic book series and graphic novels contain literary themes that put them on par with things like Catcher in the Rye or the Iliad.

What is your opinion on the matter /dis/? Should comic books be doctored in to class syllabuses and school curriculum, or do they fall short in some way to make them of a lesser medium?
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>>77693
They are two very different ways to present a story. I do think a class on the subject would be nice though, if nothing more than to give people who are unfamiliar with comics a new found appreciation for it. There are a lot of good books out there that everyone should at least try to read to see if they'd like to get into it.
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I think the problem is when we think of comics, we immediately think of Marvel/DC and capes. And although there are good, well-written or "deep" cape comics, many are simple stories meant to entertain children and manchildren.

We tend to ignore works such as Hellboy or Sandman, or the entirety of European comics (Moebius is the only one I actually know, though).
>> No. 77718
>>77714
>Moebius
Oh man I've always wanted to read The Incal. It's really expensive on Amazon though.

I can see that as a valid point. There is still sort of that stigma of comics being for kids. I think superhero stuff is really, at least now a days, more about just entertaining everyone and telling a nice story.


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77676 No. 77676 [View]
#Discussion

I'd like to take a moment to make a thread where I will be attacking modern agriculture. Its an interesting thing I think needs to be done - as some of you know I"m rather passionate about growing and growing food, but many of you don't really know - and probably don't want to know (and in the states, its now illegal for you to film so that you could show others and they could know certain things) there are many degrees of separation we have between ourselves and the food we eat.

We simply can afford not to care, not to be aware, and not to be prompted to learn. Yet, there are major problems with how our western style of mechanized, aggressive monoculture farming using patented seeds is far from a good or optimal model, its actually a model that is incapable of being sustained. Beyond that it has serious repercussions we know about and quite a few we don't - this is further not aided when our US politicians allow for the companies that own their GMO patents to push their products into the market before being thoroughly tested.

Or worse, test them, find they are utter failures and invite worst pests than they are engineered to fortify against, and then pawn them off on developing nations using their culture's icons and gods and goddesses as marketing partners.

Our modern agriculture systems across the globe reflect a great many methods of getting things done - however, the monoculture, GMO 'roundup resistant', push-it-to-the-max-profit-margin approach we commonly use is likely in the process of creating its own demise.

Hereafter I will call our methods of farming 'conventional' for simplicity.
Conventional food is less nutritious than it ever has been. This lack of nutrition in our food is a result of two things - one is soil depletion, as vast monocultures have no real way of replenishing their own soil, and as the lack of important organisms that would help circulate and make bioavailable the nutrients plants need, the food they produce is less healthy and the plants are less healthy, meaning they need more pesticides too.
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>> No. 77706
>>77704

I hope this works; I'm new to /chan style boards, and the past few hours have been extremely unusual and deeply disorienting.

I thought I'd throw in a few things I came up with while reading your discussion. I may never be back, because I'm not sure I like this style of board, but maybe you will find it interesting.

I spent the summer working with an incredibly intelligent organic farmer in the mountains of Kentucky. I think organic farming, although maybe not where we need to be, is at least a good step in the right direction. Here are a few reasons why.

1. It's more sustainable.

My boss used natural fertilizer, and paid very close attention to his soil. He had years of experience in what he was doing, and he taught me a lot about how he grew plants from the ground up; the idea being that he worked with the soil first, so he could sustain production. He rotated crops, and we killed all our weeds with hoes or mulch, of one sort or another. It worked surprisingly well. I don't know how common this sort of approach is; my sample size is one. But his farm was producing better crops each year. I doubt that's true for everyone.
>> No. 77708
>>77706
thanks for sharing your experience! it's very heartening to hear of such a well-run and successful organic venture, and i truly hope that such practices can become more widespread in this country.

however, in terms of scale, i don't really see such operations displacing industrialized monoculture anytime soon, if ever. especially for crops like corn and soybeans, the demand, not just for food but as additives, fuel sources, and other biochemical applications, the demand is just so gigantic right now, there's really no way organic, local operations could conceivably keep up.

as to GMOs, while certainly the most visible alterations are pesticide resistance, because they get all the media coverage and controversy, many more aspects of the organism are being modified as well. gmo crops have been modified to increase yield, nutritional content, disease resistance, their ability to stay in good condition during transport, and numerous others. it's still a young and burgeoning field, and the full scope of it's applications hasn't been fully realized yet.
>> No. 77710
>>77708 Hey, lookit that! Bookmarking the thread worked! Still not sure if I 'like' /chan boards, but they're interesting, at least.

Yeah,I agree. Food as a fuel is a wonderful idea, and small-scale farming isn't yet going to compete with that. And since we're not actually eating it, I'd say GMO the crap outta it. As I said, the idea is great; I'm just not convinced we really understand the ramifications yet. Only one way to learn, though.

Still, it seems to me that with most technology, there are trends, and one I've noticed over lots of different systems is that they start decentralized, move first towards centralization, and then, when the tech gets better, away again. Take computers; they moved towards mainframes, and then away. Transport, with trains and the highways. The public schools, and the homeschool movement. I'm convinced the internet will do the same, as network topology gets more advanced. You could almost draw a similar analogy for democracy, although what defines a 'working' government is difficult; no country has lasted forever. Yet. Decentralized networks of *anything* have significant advantages over centralized networks; if they can fulfill the required objectives, they're more stable and redundant, and often cheaper. When the tech reaches the point to where it can compete, I think small-scale is the direction we will move; in lots and lots of things.

The internet will, and already is, driving this. We're still figuring out how to fit this giant of communication into our culture, and we're not nearly done yet; VR is coming, and the percentage of people connected is still pretty small. But on centralization; artisan craftsmanship of many things was harmed by the centralization represented by 'big box' stores. Not saying this is bad, mind you. However, some people really do value artisans, and the internet has brought some of that back; by connecting people more closely, marketplaces like Etsy and Ebay have made handcrafting more profit


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77638 No. 77638 [View]
#Discussion

Let's talk about those things I put in the Subject. Immortality is Royal Night Guard's waifu, and I believe he's said more than once that he "intends to live forever".

So let's ask everyone some interesting questions, and I can pretend I'm not just asking RNG.

-Would you want to be immortal?
-Why do you want to be immortal?
-Why don't you want to be immortal?
-Do you believe immortality is even possible?
-What do you think of death?
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>>77651
>I have to admit, I find RNG's fear of death a subject of fascination - and i don't mean to sound belittling to you, Cdirus. You're a respectable mind to me. I just find people and their bits and pieces central to them to be interesting.
I'll take it as flattering rather than belittling :3

>I wonder if his anxiety about death might be lessened through psychedelic assisted therapy? . . . However, I don't think he wants to 'deal' with it
I've thought about this before. I know a psychoanalyst whose research interests are in the beneficial application of psychoactive substances. But yes, I think it is not always a good thing to remove someone's fear. And perhaps neither is it good to be too quick to try and solve problems with medication or substances.

>I wonder if this want, this fear, stems from a linear-view of life? As in 'once you're alive you're alive until your're dead, thats it'. Thats an acceptable current view.
Of course. I don't want to stop existing and it seems at least very plausible that that's what death means. Death is something to be feared and the best choice is to take whatever constructive actions you can to avoid dying.

>I just wonder if it isn't something more cyclical. Nature doesn't produce too many linear dead ends it seems. Things get recycled . . .
I think you have this backwards. When you die the parts that made you up will likely decompose and nature will recycle them into something new, but that something will not be a new, healthy you. Humans are the ones who rebuild the original from recycled parts.
>> No. 77701
I would love to be immortal. I am pretty discontent with the state of technology and society as of now. Though at the same time I want to live for the sake of self preservation. To that end I would prefer immortality to be a privilege granted to me and a select few others.To me, immortality is not a question of possibility. It's a matter of when and how hard is going to be to achieve and maintain. There is no reason why a human could not live forever one day, or for at least as long as the universe exists.
>> No. 77703
>>77638
>-Would you want to be immortal?
If I am alive and the option is available I would create an avatar. Can kind of already do it with current data collection methods, if I had access to what 'some others' had access to I'd have much clearer picture of me.

>-Why do you want to be immortal?
Because it is an option, though I'd have some issue struggling to justify why I should BE immortal to myself: I ultimately see the reality of things is that we should have cyborgs and avatars of ourselves within a few decades. People are going to do it. Things are going to get strange because our society isn't set up to handle immortal people, moreso dynasties of finance and ownership. If these people become immortal... I worry. They should be contained as holograms. They then can have their wishes of power and control in a controlled environment.

>-Why don't you want to be immortal?
I would feel left out of the cycle of death. Is there something more? Do I dissipate into the ether? Is dying its own life experience and there is a way nature has to recycle me back into the stream when its my turn or sort me into a different medium beyond my matter when I die? Who knows. I don't know.

>-Do you believe immortality is even possible?
Its more than possible its pending.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_HvVgl62oM

I hate these people. I seriously want them to get ran over, all at once, as a group, by a bus full of nuns.

The pain from banging my head against their walls of stupidity is getting too much. Not sure if I can continue to throw their insipid theories back in their faces, only to have them peal them off of said gesicht, rinse them out and toss the damn things back at me.

Why do we allow this special kind of stupid to propagate? Why can't we just put the poor things down easy?


In the interest of further discussion, how do you deal with these kinds of people when you run into them?
Have you ever successful convinced someone of just how wrong they are?
How does one combat ignorance when that ignorance uses "Ignore" and it's super effective?
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>> No. 77674
NWO is upon us.
We have all been already chipped with RFID.
>> No. 77677
I believe the one about drones being able to home in on and track/fire tracking missiles at cell phones though. That seems like a fucking legit use of a military drone that you just would be crazy not to implement.
>> No. 77688
Jews run the world.


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Hey Graham!
http://blog.ted.com/2014/02/20/6-studies-that-offer-fascinating-conclusions-about-human-sexuality/

I saw this and I thought it might be something you would be interested in.

In today’s talk, Christopher Ryan, the co-author of Sex at Dawn with Cacilda Jethá, takes a deeper look at the standard narrative of human sexual evolution we’ve long upheld: men provide women with goods and services in exchange for women’s sexual fidelity. According to this model, Ryan points out, the war between the sexes is built into our DNA.

But based on their research, Ryan and Jethá have quite a few bones to pick with this narrative. Ryan explains that our sexual patterns are an outgrowth of agricultural models—which accounts for only about five percent of human history. For the other 95 percent, human sexuality was “a way of establishing and maintaining the complex flexible social systems, networks, that our ancestors were very good at.” In hunter-gatherer societies, there were overlapping sexual relationships between members of a community—a more fluid system than the Victorian model we’re wedded to today. In fact, several contemporary societies around the world argue against the sexual myth we’ve built up, too.

“My hope is that a more accurate updated understanding of human sexuality will lead us to have greater tolerance for ourselves, for each other, greater respect for unconventional relationship configurations like same-sex marriage or polyamorous unions, and that we’ll finally put to rest the idea that men have some innate instinctive right to monitor and control women’s sexual behavior,” Ryan says. “And we’ll see that it’s not only gay people that have to come out of the closet: we all have closets we have to come out of.”
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>> No. 77653
>>77606
I don't wnat to put that responsibility on you for some reason as it was me who didn't have the time.

I recently just got let go though.


I have time now just have to ease back into the lifestyle of being free again.
>> No. 77658
>>77486

Yes. yes I have a lot. Here are the things I suppose in no particular order would happen and I have at least some vague notion of why each of these would happen.

a very large shift toward world peace, egalitarianism, significant drops in violence, stronger communities, and concepts where 'groups' of people consider themselves the parents (or responsible as parents) of children, bigger families, less homelessness, and an intensely more empathic society
>> No. 77659
>>77606
oh!

I think we maybe misunderstood?

You asked why I posted the blog you posted right?

It was just a pure mistake. We have common interests. I actually had skimmed this earlier, so referenced it in my memory, looked it up, and shared it because it was relevant.

It was just a bit more relevant than I had realized *lol*


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#Share

I want to become a dolphin.

>in another life
;_;
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77623
If anything I could be other than a human, it would be a dolphin
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77628
>you will never be a dolphin
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77637
>rape niggas all day
>people think you're adorable and still want to swim alongside you
shit that's the fucking life right there.


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