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Hello everypony and welcome to /dis/, Ponychan's discussion board. Here you'll find threads ranging from controversial topics such as politics, scientific development and religion, to more lax threads meant to share opinions without being overly formal. As you may imagine, given the freedom to discuss these topics, some ponies may inadvertently say or do things that hinder fruitful discussion and bring about unnecessary conflict. Due to this, we have created a set of guidelines that should be followed. Please make sure to read them before posting, as to avoid any misconceptions or confusion.

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>> No. 78189
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Those were golden days.

Oh, also, nice trips

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I've long talked about or thrown about this idea in various forms. I wanted to make a place where we could come up with topic ideas for dis and generate them at regular intervals if they seem to have high potential (however you want to define potential).

We have some new structure proposed for /dis/ and its up to us to attempt the new system. This is also a way for us to work on doing threads according to that system and populating /dis/ with those threads.

My brain has been coming up with some great ideas today with other things in my life, and I think I might be able to continue the same mood after I get back from a little social outing/live dubstep event. In the meantime lets hear constructive ideas for thread topics in /dis/ and lets try to decide on one or more for maybe thurs or fri by vote.

Lets take until then to revise and brainstorm on some good ideas for /dis/ topics that will be entirely worthy of being saved to the archives!!
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>> No. 76069
Anyone else think it would be cool to be able to post video to /dis/ ?

I mean, I love lectures. I love to share them, but, I don't think many people have the patience to listen and watch something maybe 15-60 minutes long.

But I think /dis/ might have a few more of those people than other places.

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[#Discussion] [#Question]

In the wake of the UCSB shooting, I'm seeing a lot of internet arguments and blog posts about male entitlement. Indeed, shooting people because you can't get laid is an incredibly stupid thing to do, and Elliot Rodger was an enormously entitled, misogynist twat.

That said, there is a flipside to the issue of "male entitlement"; namely, the notion that if a man is not getting laid, then he has failed as a man. Guilty and stupid though he was, Elliot Rodger did face bullying as a result of his virginity, as do many others. In popular culture, "success" for a man is typically defined as "getting the girl". If a boy has sex with a girl and she takes his virginity, it is said that she "made him a man", as if the mark of a man is whether or not he has had sex. Movies like The 40-Year-Old Virgin portray men who have reached middle age without having sex as childish losers. If a guy is going off to college, he's more likely to hear "don't get anyone pregnant!" than anything else, as if the reason one goes to college is more to have sex than to get an education. If popular culture is to be believed, the most important thing in a man's life is sex.

Why do you think this is? Is this an effect of male entitlement? A cause? A byproduct of survival instinct? And finally, is a male virgin a loser?

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>> No. 78260
explain the bias, please
>> No. 78261
Umm...explain it how?
>> No. 78262
Is being a victim a bias in favor or against - am I reading this correctly at all? Its 'in favor' did you say?

I may have missed something.

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78253 No. 78253 [View]

What are the differences and relationship between Gender Identities & Gender Roles?

As well, within the context of the transgendered?
>> No. 78256
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That's a good question.

And I have no idea.

... I suppose that a gender identity is not a real thing if you're talking about anything outside of transgendered people. If you don't take trannies to be a factor, there wouldn't be a need for the term "gender identity".
Taking transgenders into consideration- gender identity seems more to me like something relating to the physical feelings and mechanical parts of a gender, like hormone issues, emotional feelings and things that are chemically defined by gender.
Gender roles are based on social laws, and most often shallow traits in people. I think. It shouldn't have any weight in a transgendered person's questioning of their gender. It's just social dogma.
>> No. 78258

Trannies is a derogatory twrm, please use the terms Trans or Transgender in the future.

As for the differences, from what was explained to me by a friend a gender role is essentially a forced position put on to you by society, as in a male should be a construction workereven when he would rather be a nurse. A gender identity is essentially who you want to be seen as. Some people are male others female regardless of the parts and then there are some who are both (binary neutral).

As a sidenote, never ask someone what they were born as, ask them what pronouns to use or what sex(s) they identify with. Most folks had to wade through extremely damaging psychological trauma just to be who they are, don't disregard it by asking who they were.
>> No. 78259
>I suppose that a gender identity is not a real thing if you're talking about anything outside of transgendered people.

how about people who do not identify with a gender identity or identify as not having one?

I'm shooting in the dark right here, but I had read something to the tone that gender roles arise from gender identities a person has. That makes sense. In practice they aren't the same thing per-say but are a related dynamic.

But it doesn't entirely satisfy against my suspicion that the gender identity is actually also the concept of gender roles that a person imprints.

Its just one possibility but I haven't been comfortable enough with what I understand to rule it out - that perhaps gender roles socially imprinted can create gender identity issues in at least some people.


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A few months ago, in a chat I used to frequent, I mentioned that I'm a masculist. The response to that... was not pleasant. It came from pretty much complete ignorance of the topic, and by the time the other person realized their ignorance, I was too frustrated to properly educate them.

I'd like to correct that. There's a lot of misinformation about masculism out there, so I thought I might be able to help educate you.

So go ahead. Ask me anything. You can even ask me accusatory questions and I'll answer them. Just so long as it's an actual question, I'll answer it. Keep in mind, however, that if you want me to be specific, you're going to have to put a little effort and open-mindedness into your questions. So you are allowed to ask, "Isn't masculism misogynistic?" However, the only answer you're likely to get is, "Nope."

Also don't be surprised if it takes me a couple of days to answer. I sometimes forget to check Ponychan and it seems that my watched threads aren't working properly, so there's that issue, too.

But if you're patient, feel free to ask away!
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>> No. 78246
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Honestly, I was going to say that I don't think masculism has an official stance on transmen, but when you think about it, masculism is a lot like feminism in that it's rather disorganized (moreso, in fact, because of the tendency of feminism to exert social pressure on women that disagree on stances like abortion or dual income families). Masculist writings and sites do seem to be in support of transsexuals, while AVfM has a few different articles on the matter. One I read showed strong support for transsexuals while condemning "trans-activists" for the path the movement has taken. Another is by a FtM transsexual. This doesn't say a whole lot, however. A number of comments on these articles express how often the men and women that frequent AVfM run into feminist transgender individuals and how it seems like an abusive relationship, given feminism's subtle (and sometimes not-so-subtle) stance on it. The same could be said for the MRM and masculism. From what I've seen, masculists and MRAs are generally in support of those that are transgender and transsexual, even if they don't really understand it.

I'll admit that this is an area where I'm not as well-versed as I would have hoped. All I can say is that there seems to be support, but I can't say for sure because, honestly, there could be something I'm just not seeing. I just haven't been that focused on that area enough, but there also isn't a whole lot of focus with masculism when it comes to trans rights; there just seems to be subtle acceptance.

And now I've spent a few hours on this because I got lost in links and I need to get more stuff done today and I'm still lost in links. So much for my reply to Graham.

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>> No. 78249
What does masculism think about gender differences?
How do you feel on idealology of sex as a whole?

That's all I can come up with right now.
>> No. 78257
>First of all, I'd like to know how you'd go about proving that outside of cultural norms (such as the cultural norm that men should seek sex, for example), and then how you'd go and remove negative cultural norms from that group.

I wanted to answer this.

The cultural norms bit is quite complicated, isn't it? And its very detail oriented - at that level of detail I don't think we can make easy estimations of a superior sex.

So lets roll it back a bit.

Why not observe the world around us?

What are males, exactly? What are females? When we observe other species we find a complex array of organisms which trend towards a very similar pattern of male utility to that species.

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78254 No. 78254 [View]

In a macroeconomic sense, what is an unreasonable share of income for Capital to take? 15%? 30%? 50%? 100%?

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This subject is one that has greatly frustrated me:

Why does this exist? Why must it exist? What point is there in it existing? Is it something to be Prohibited? For this only brings heart ache and ignorance of friendship between boys and girls.
It also brings unneeded drama, and is a weight that many do not need on their shoulders.

Can someone please explain to me all of this?

This comes from me, a 15 year old, who has no dating/girlfriend experience, but has heard much advice and is an outsider looking in on the events known as dating
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>> No. 78244
If you want some advice, take it from a man whose been through what you're going through: the stench of desperation is unattractive.

generally women want to be with someone who is confident and sure of themselves. If you go around broadcasting that you need a relationship with someone, anyone, right now, does that make a girl feel like her a relationship with you would be special? Or would that be something anyone willing to pay attention to you could have?

Make yourself stop wanting it so bad, and it's a lot more likely that something will come to you. No one wants to be in a relationship with someone who needs to beg for affection.
>> No. 78247
>I have tried to start, but I got rejected a lot as all.
Why are you even asking these question, then? The answer seems pretty obvious.
>> No. 78248
I'm 17, male, and heterosexual and sometimes I feel pretty lonely. I've never had a girlfriend, although I really want one. However, I feel that a lot of teenage friendships are pretty gender segregated because of dating and I don't think it necessarily has to be that way. in my Freshman Sophomore and Junior years, I made an effort to not sit at gender segregated lunch tables which tend to be that way because people find it easier to befriend a gender that they aren't attracted to. As a result I have plenty of friends of both genders as a senior(I say both for simplicity even though I picture gender as a spectrum, not a binary). I've been going on dates with girls, but haven't had a real relationship. That being said I have confidence I will meet someone I truly love. My philosophy is to not let gender stand in the way of friendship and even if you don't have a partner yet, it will happen if you want one.

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78197 No. 78197 [View]

Does anyone else here practice meditation?

Does it help you?

What forms or methods of meditation do you use?
>> No. 78218
Once in awhile I do a bit of Mindfulness Meditation, as advocated in books by Thich Nhat Hahn [en.wikipedia.org]. Not regularly enough to say I'm any good at it, but I'm at least at the foot of the path.

Meditation is a complicated subject, as different people meditate for different reasons.

Mindfulness Meditation is about keeping your head in order. It's based on recognizing that it's just human nature to be distracted by flights of fancy, and eventually they'll build up and fester until they end up impacting your mental health. Mindfulness Meditation is a relative panacea for mental health, as it's all about cultivating the habit to return to reality, the here and now, not seeking a special (mentally altered) experience, but rather extricating yourself from under the thumb of your predispositions. It's generally recommended by cognitive psychologists as a stress prevention technique.

I think it helps me to remain calm in the face of adversity and gain new insight with a clearer perspective, and I can slow down time a bit by paying attention to it passing, but that's about it. This is the only form of meditation I really use, and my methods are rather amateurish, even if I understand the theory reasonably well. The only negative consequence I can think of is that you end up a tad super-sane, watching all the poor schleps sleepwalking through life without mindfulness is a bit like being the only sober person at a drunken party.

Some people meditate because they want a special experience. Like an out-of-body experience. To get high without drugs. Things like that. This is more or less the opposite motivation to meditate than I have, and so their methods strike me as rather kooky. But who am I to judge?

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>> No. 78220
I do from time to time.

I like to meditate in nature. I also like to meditate at home alone usually naked or in my boxers and try to bring natural elements into the house, typically the wind.

There are parts of your body the wind never touches, but it could, and sensationally it can be very intense to feel the wind curl around the small of your back or along your upper thighs.

>Does it help you?
Sure. I use it as a tool to pump my intuition or reflect on things I learned or need to think about. It works very well for these things. So well I cannot describe some of the things I've discovered because we simply don't have the language for it. So if you ask, be prepared to get an answer that is more metaphor than substance.

I mostly use mindfulness but sometimes I like to play with thought constructs.

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So. I've come to a realization: I don't necessarily dislike cloppers, and I don't necessarily think clopping is bad. What exactly does that mean? Maybe someone will write it underneath this...

First thing's first, there are two words that need to be removed from the discussion: "Weird," and "disgusting."

"Cloppers are weird."

Of course cloppers are weird. Weired doesn't signify any moral judgement, it simply means "different from the majority." Bronies in general are considered "weird" by society, and I don't think many of you would say that makes Bronydom immoral.

"Clopping is disgusting."
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>> No. 78208
Honestly, who cares about what you do as long as you keep it to yourself like you said.

The only rules I have when it comes to calibrateing are
-If no one is getting harmed, its a-ok
-Never calibrate to characters I like
>> No. 78215
As long as they're not making what they're masturbating to public knowledge or hurting anyone or anything in any way shape or form, then I have no problem with these people.

If they are doing these things then, to be 100% honest, they deserve to be labeled a 'horse fucker'.

>Never masturbate to characters I like.
>implying your personal favorite character is exempt from this sexualization.

Well, I have news for you: there's going to be someone masturbating to a character you like out there. Always. That's something you have to deal with.

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>> No. 78216
I know, its more of a personal rule.

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Youtube embed play button
  So the guy who sings this has been convicted of "

Attempted rape of a child under 13
Sexual assault of a child under 13
Taking, making, or possessing indecent images of children
Possessing an extreme pornographic image involving a sex act on an animal"

How does that make you feel?

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>> No. 78184
If anybody asks me about my political beliefs, I would usually say I'm a democratic socialist and leave it at that.

Though, admittedly I do have some left-libertarian beliefs.

I also think Obama was the lesser of two evils during the 2012 election in my opinion.
>> No. 78186

I don't care for the music, it's the acts themselves.

Having been raped in junior high, I wouldn't wish it on anyone. I know most people are especially keen on Raping the Rapist as though it's some form of justice, and that always fucks with me.

I just don't want him to hurt anyone else. I just want him stopped. Not raped, not tortured, not beaten or killed, just stopped. Exiling him from the rest of society for a decade, without any further action taken against him? That's stopped enough.

Uh, this has nothing to do with feminism and everything to do with this guy being a remorsless sociopath manipulating his fans into letting him rape their children.
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Didn't the extreme pornographic image involving a sex act on an animal also involved a kid as well?

Now that's undeniably fucked up, come on people.

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76893 No. 76893 [View]

Would the world be a better place if people with low IQs were not allowed to reproduce?

Edit: Note that this question does not ask if society should prevent people with lows IQs from reproducing.

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>> No. 78145
I looked over this web site:

...it seems to be a standard white-power/white supremacist ideological web site. Everything about the site, and the person running it, is in full agreement with all of the premises and statements of white supremicists. However, it clothes itself in intellectualism, quotes from fancy scientific and historical figures (most of which nobody has really heard of), but repeatedly maintains, in a ivory tower and "intelligent" seeming way, the most extreme eugenicist, white supremicist intellectual positions. It sneakily uses terms like "equality" here and there to seem nice, but it is ultimately attacking the concept. If this approach validated ideas, then we could assume Marxism or Freudism was also flawless because Marxists and staunch Freudians do the exact same thing. It is not so.

The term "occidental" is as outdated and archiac and ridiculous as the term "orient". It refers to western white people, but most people don't realize this. Every aspect of the creator and maintainer of this blog, everything he says and does, is essential supporting white supremacy and attacking diversity, egalitarianism and the idea of social progress.

If you are a rightist or conservative I strongly urge you to reconsider knee-jerkingly supporting the guys positions. There is nothing about being a businessman that says you have to take on social conservative, racist (racialist, occidentalist, white supremicist) ideas. There is no real solid reason to support the similar ideas of Fox News and its main ideologue, Austrialian rober-barron Rupert Murdoch. You can think independantly, you can hire nonwhite people who are skilled and capable and weigh the perceived risks vs the good it will do in the long run. You can try hard to convince the poor, whatever their color, that education and reason are the positive path. It is not the time to give up on humanity and go to the path of war, impoverishment, discrimination and genocide that is ultimately offered by the Occidentalist behind his intellectual-soun
>> No. 78185
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A better question would be: does I.Q. really matter?
>> No. 78190
There would be just less dumb people, I don't think it would improve the world, how about lazy people..

I don't think you can kill lazyness for everyone, though.

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78137 No. 78137 [View]
I don't understand trannys who try to fuck girls. I know this one tranny who does that and if he wants to fuck girls, why does he pretend to be one? There are so many less lesbians. Is it just a lesbian fetishist type thing? I don't get it.
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>> No. 78142
Ugh, what the hay, now that it's on /dis/ where it belongs, might as well reply.

The thing is, I've seen it a million times before. You're just feigning ignorance for dramatic effect.
I mean, "tranny"? Seriously?
Even a little kid understands that that is a purposely inflammatory word. You only say it if you are trying to start a fight.
Likewise, if you're been on the internet at all, you understand correct gender politics. You understand that transexualism and sexual orientation are two separate things, you know that you should be calling that person "she" and not "he". You know all of this.
Yet you carry on, flying in the face of common decency. Presumably just for kicks, though far be it for me to assume anything about your personal morals. Maybe you actually believe what you're saying, who knows.
If so, you could at least approach the subject with tact, and respect for the parties concerned. And lack of slurs.
>> No. 78143
>thread using the word "tranny" and saying that trans women are pretending to be girls
>moved to board for serious discussion
mods pls
>> No. 78155
Its not uncommon, the mods move a thread like this to /dis/ to be handled 'srsly' and essentially kill its original intent.

/dis/ might be a graveyard of sorts but the mods are well aware we can bury a thread here too

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I don't really know why I've come back here. But I have a question for you all.
Is the fandom getting worse or not? Is it possible it only seems like this because of the attention given to the negative actions of the group? Has it always been this way?
On a side note, I hate the very "vocal" memebers of any group, for, in my opinion, they are the reason most people outside of said group dislike it in it's entirety.
Pic unrelated.
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>> No. 78079
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Summer always makes the fandom seem worse; actually I think it doesn't change very much at all, but without fresh new episodes for people to go crazy over they notice the less desirable aspects of the fandom more.

Whatever. It's an internet fandom, not a magical community. That's why I don't call myself a 'brony'; I think it's a silly label that says nothing about who I am. Also because calling myself a 'brony' inherently links me with all the assholes and sickos who also call themselves bronies (I'm not saying they are a majority at all, but as you say, they're vocal) so I don't.
>> No. 78146
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Worse, better and every synonym only exist in the mind. Something truly cannot become worse, or better because those are perceptions and not qualities.
>> No. 78152
It;s the off-season right now. It always appears worse during that time, because we're all starved for new content. There's only so much non-show content can do to keep us satisfied.

Once the show comes back, it won't seem so bad.

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78148 No. 78148 [View]

Yesterday, me and my gf was eating dinner at my place (she cooked a really good lasagna BTW). As you know, Italian food can be a bit messy. My gf used the last napkin to clean off. Now, I was kinda stuffed and didn't really feel like going to the pantry and opening another pack of paper towels. I just happen to see a sock I had on last night and wiped my mouth with it. It was when my gf lost her shit. It was like PMS on steroid. She screamed and yelled and swore she'd never kiss me again. When I told her to calm down, she dumped me and stormed out. So my question is 1). how do I get her back and 2). how do I get her not to be so squeamish.
>> No. 78149
stop being a fucking slob OP would you kiss someone who had foot sweat on their mouth?
>> No. 78150
Send her a vidya of yourself washing your face along with a note that says, "even dirty boys can be clean sometimes."
>> No. 78151
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guys what do? Recently my girlfriend broke up with me because I gave her a dutch oven. I was laying in bed with her after we had sex and I had to fart. well I thought it would be funny if I gave her a dutch oven so I farted and held the covers over her head and yelled out dutch oven! she screamed anf flailed but I held her head under the covers for a good minute and a half while she was forced to breathe in that foul stink that made people think something died in there. How can I get her back?

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77844 No. 77844 [View]

Do you guys and gals think that Open Marriage is a better option of a lifestyle or the Traditional one?
With an Open Marriage, you can have more fun with other people without feeling guilty than an Traditional and maybe help built a healthy relationship with your partner. In a Open relationship, i know there might be ground rules or do's and dont's.
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>> No. 77890
I feel like if you truly, TRULY love someone, you won't want to be with anyone except them. If you're with someone and you still are wanting to sleep with other people, I feel like you just shouldn't be getting married.
>> No. 77897
Sounds traditional.

Thats just fine : if you're like the 20-25% of the population who seems naturally inclined towards both traditional marriage and monogamy, then good on you. Helen Fisher reports people like you often make some of the best environments for raising children and will sacrifice happily to maintain it.

But this naturally-inclined-towards-traditional-models + naturally-wanting-to-be-monogamous if this group indeed describes you, is still only 1/5 to 1/4 of the population.
>> No. 78134
I fully support traditional marriage. Marriage without a dowry lessens the value of the bride. Marriage not under the arrangement of the tribe or family is selfish, if young people can't put the needs of the community before their own then they certainly can't put their partner's needs before their own either.

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