Grr... that first change line was mangled by some filter...

Anyway, have a direct link to the download:
http://www.mediafire.com/?ccax3tgp8cwxqdw

>>29647
>-Mental breakdown Twilight image by ??? (couldn't find this for some reason - let me know).

Its by supersaiyanmikito, I just animated in the eye twitch and teeth grind.

Also yay new thread and new version!

This program is a must have for every desktop. I'm lovin' the changes!

I have this and Luna now sleeps on my clock and she is so cute that I just cant wake her up.

Whoo! Great update AND a new thread! Let's just hope there's less senseless arguing this time round...
Loving those sound clips and the screensaver options!

w00t w00t.

I've completed Derpy's drag! Took two days but it's worth it!

I certainly like how this turned out, and I'd like to sketch (and maybe pixel) more.


PS: the tail, however, is not my work, it's been taken from the "upside down flying" derpy animation. Credit where it is due. :3

New page! (No more autosage!)
New domain! (No more fake positive virus alerts!)
New update! (No more old version!)


Keep with the good job, guys! Like Tony the Tiger said, you guys are grr-rrr-rreat!

Thank you for my daily dose of heart attack, guys.

I put mouse over Shy and she screamed at me. Like in Green Isn't Your Color.

Coincidence was I put mouse over her as she was napping.

Like "ZZZZZZZZZZ"... *mouse poke* "I'm just so frustraded i could just scream."

>>29647
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>>29647
>>29662

>>29662

as for an animation for this - i feel a pendulum motion would be fitting
just a tiny sway as she is dragged

I downloaded the java one, and read the read me, but I still don't know the instructions to get it on my Mac (I am not tech savy) Will you help somepony out?

>>29683
I don't have a mac, but it should be as simple as double (??) clicking on "Java Ponies.jar".

>>29723
Speaking of the java version... I took a look at it today and noticed that you can't actually use most of the newer ponies from the windows version as the ini files are slightly incompatible.

So guess what? I updated it.

Desktop Ponies, Java Version V1.25, graphics update 1.

http://www.mediafire.com/?omc4kv6lj7m10b0

Dedicated to our beloved Jirugameshi, previous maintainer of the port... May he rest in peace with the ponies in Equestria...
(Actually I have no idea what happened to him.)

Note that it is still on V1.25 and missing a LOT of features. But at least now you'll be able to copy the ponies from the windows version and have them walk around (this download already includes all of them from V1.38).

Consider this a test version, as this is the first time since college that I've touched Java (and the first time ever working with Eclipse...).

In other news... I saw a paper-bag costume Derpy image out there somewhere! Did I miss that, or is somepony holding out on us? :)

>Runs program
>RD: It's gonna be SO AWESOME!
>PP: Hey! That's what I said!
>Me: /(^3^)\

Having bit of an issue... not all ponies stop when hovering my mouse over.
And Spike stutters uncontrollably being next to Rarity (changes facing side like crazy)

>>29681
Yeah, that's what I was thinkin'. but I'm kind of scared of animating her for fear of ruining her ^^;

Ok. I downloaded it, went through all the sh*t it told me to do and as it loads up...

It says it needs to close due to a error.
I re-downloaded it, and it happens again.

I use XP. Something might have fucked up down there.

>>29741
I had that issue too. As far as I can tell if the pony doesn't have a mouse-over behavior defined, it won't stop on mouse-over.

>>29768

Her eyes aren't derped there, though...I looked at it upside down and they're aligned.

>>29764
A couple other people reported this and I've found a bug. I'm uploading V1.38.1 now to fix this.

>>29777

V1.38.1

http://www.mediafire.com/?b1l6f2t7s4326yh

Changes:
-Fixed a crash (CLR20r3 Invalid Operation) when starting the program and not having the correct version of DirectX installed (for sounds).

>>29662
Left facing, fix'd

this one took me forever
it have FancyPants, which interact with the mane6 with fancy talks and when i say fancy talks, bad grammar usually goes with it...
>DPG
since you missed my last philomena update, it included in here as well and the big stallion templates( in FancyPants folder). I'll put the other templates in Fleurdelis next time.
http://www.mediafire.com/?apmbhqhjdo6cew4

>>29786

That is very pompous. Nice.

Hey chaps. I'm the crazy guy mentioned before who did a graphics overhaul. (if you saw that post)

Anyway, if you've ever had any graphics related weirdness or GDI errors, it might be worth checking out this version. Even if you've not had this weirdness, this version should run smoother. You can have hundreds of ponies and it'll chug along just fine, just at lower framerates as you add more ponies.

This is my own code, so it'll look different and it doesn't have all the neat features. But it can use the existing config files. (although there are some square peg in round holes going on to make that work :P)

DPG has the code for the graphics part and he says he hopes to use it. I wish him luck because combining it will be very apples and oranges. But if it works you get all the awesome features you have now just with a hopefully improved graphics engine.

You can find the download here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?fwpdqgd4zuzuc04

Just drop the .exe into the same directory as the current Desktop Ponies.exe and run.

You'll need .NET framework v4 for this, so if the program fails to start try getting the framework from here:
microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=17113

>>29808

You have the 'Random Pony' image hanging around in that crowd (to the left), lol.

>>29808
Um, what are your computer's specs? If your not lagging at all here, you have some powerful-flank computer

I just realized with Pony Noia's Fancy Pants we now have 100 Ponies!!

>>29819
I dont know about him but my computer was running fine with all 100 ponies out. With the normal program it starts having trouble around 30 ponies.

>>29820
...100? SWEET CELESTIA. You must have some bitchin' processor and RAM

>>29821
I have an athlon II x4 and 4 gb ram. All the ponies took less than a gb worth of my ram and about 15% of my processor. I used the speed efficient option.

Moo, I'm getting out of shape

I'll try to pop out a Twilight intraction sometime soon, I hope

>>29819

Running on a laptop. Processor is 1.8Ghz x2. It also starts having issues around the 30 pony mark for the normal version.

Here's 1000 ponies running steadily if slowly (~5fps) on my machine. Because I can.

>>29828
That is amazing! I did the same thing now and they were still running at a fairly decent pace. Used about the same amount of ram as running 100 did. just 12% more processor power required.

>>29808
One bug I did notice is rarity was outside my screen for awhile then all of a sudden she was in the middle and was double the size she normally is. Then she changed animations, from gala dress to trot, and went back to normal size. (noticed when I was only running 100)

If DesktopPonyGuy figures out how to implement all the features using this, it will be amazing.

>>29827
It looks like she's ready to sneak up on somepony and surpirse them.

OVER 9000 ponies still seem to be running at about little less than 1 fps. Quite little memory is used actually but it seems it utilizes only one core. Now quadcore support, that would be awesome XD
*kidding* I don't think over 9000 ponies would have real applications.... ok that's not true.
There seem to be red boxes around ponies that are talking at the moment

>>29808
I just realized there is the issue StarStep discribed >>29831 in my screenshot
>>29833 -> On the very top, the 4th speach "Get back and my dress won't get hurt" is spoken by a giant Rarity

>>29834
There's also a giant twilight in your screenshot too. There's a giant poison joke flower in mine. Having ten thousand ponies on my desktop is pretty cool but only the ponies with the last letters of the alphabet are visible. It seems for placement the ponies either being in front or behind eachother is purely alphabetical.

>>29662
I think Derpy needs to be animated a bit so she's swinging like a pendulum slightly.

>>29827

Pinkie looks as if she were trying to hold a fart.
Lol.

I'm pppppretty sure that this guy is stealing desktop pony ponies - they've got Rainbow Dash's fast dash and Gala Fluttershy uploaded, and want to charge people in order to use them.
http://samakelly.deviantart.com/

Pretty sure those animations were made by different people, ssso.

Hey, a new version! Nice! And it even seems to run much smoother than before.

To celebrate, have one of Luna's guards (no preview image this time because I'm on a different computer):

http://www.filer.net/get/069756f2b7f1296/file/RoyalNightGuard.rar

>hovering pointer over pony first time
>squek sound

>>29864

Have you guys considerated the option of adding a Hall of Shame to the Desktop Ponies main page so you guys could keep a display of the thefts and the thieves's reactions?
The average DA thief doesn't cares if he/she is caught because they can ignore the accusations or just hide/block everything that could make them feel unconfortable, but being exposed on a site where they have no power to manipulate things s something they all fear.

Also, I weeped at the thief's gallery and the shoody edits he/she made to claim everything as his/her own.

>>29864

The subhuman IMBECILE stole your animations and is using it to ask free DA points... so he could give a Premium account to "a sick friend who needs surgery"?

Some cretins are unworty of the gift of life. -_-U
Anyways, can somepony list the real creators of that animations so I could report his piddly flank to kingdom come?

>>29878
The Rainbow dash is Monkeyjay's so we won't have much luck on that one as I don't believe he has it posted anywhere outside of the project, however, Starstep posted a link to the original Gala animation earlier (Thief deleted the comment of course) http://steglad.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d47p8bx

>>29880
Although, Monkeyjay does have a deviantart with the RD animation as his av, so that might work: http://monkeyjay.deviantart.com/

>>29864

The thief disabled all the comments and is trying to scam 1,000 Deviantart Credits from the community. (Isn't this Fraud?)

So yeah... you know what's the problem when you guys become this awesome?
The problem is that all the bottom fedders try manipulate the system to steal your thunder and profit from your hard work.

>>29904
I consider it fraud. According to the comments before he disabled them, somepony actually paid him too, to use monkeyjay's animation. I replied to that person so they would know and be able to report that they got scammed but I dont know if DA does any refunding or anything like that.

>>29834

I noticed this issue before, it's pretty interesting.

Several of the left-facing pngs are afflicted with the bug. The pngs appear quite normal in any program I care to open them in, and the right-facing ones are fine.

My best guess is that whatever program mirrored them introduced some subtle oddity in the file that only GDI+ picks up on. Anypony think they might know? Might make an interesting bug report.

The fix is simple, just remirror the images so the left version isn't borked. It'd be nice to know what could cause this though, because it's pretty bizarre.

>>29833
The red boxes are my mistake - they show up on ponies in mouseover range.

>>29910
Oh, that means it was my program since the left facing gala dresses were the originals. Ok I will try to give some info so we can figure out what happened. I make them in photoshop cs2. Mode is set to RGB color, 8 bit/channel. I just save as png then it always asks interlace with none being selected so I just hit enter. Those were all the default settings and I dont believe Ive changed any settings to my knowledge.

>>29845
>>29681
>>29758

yes! perfect - lol

Well, we all knew that Pinkie could teleport for a long time now anyways.

Hello!
Let me tell you I really love this application. Fluttershy is now my desktop friend :)
I hope you'll add many more features to it. They really do lack more interactions, for example: it would be nice if they knew where the windows are and were running on it, looking down on the taskbar from it, jumping from it, reading what I'm writing for example, interacting with the user more. This is probably the only thing that is needed to it: more interaction with the user! you could make them more desktop pet style.
Thank you for that very good application, I really love it :) And I am very looking forward to updates.
Cheers and brohoof!

>>29915
>>29920
>reading what I'm writing for example

"Hi, I'm Pinkie Pie, and I just happened to notice that you were writing an essay about... uh... 'Anglo-Saxon cultural...' thingys, but wouldn't it be totally more awesome if you wrote about CHOCOLATE CAKES instead? I mean, if I were your teacher I would TOTALLY give you a better grade for an essay on cakes; I mean, who doesn't like CAKE?"

Sadly, I don't think that will be possible. Maybe just reading window titles...

If you'd like the ponies to walk on your windows and jump between them, you might want to take a look at the "Window Ponies" project instead:

http://windowponies.blogspot.com/

I've thought about adding something like that it, but I'm not sure it would fit.

>>29913

Seems standard. But it did give me the idea to poke around some other settings. Managed to pick out that the DPI was set to 72.009. Seemed a bit weird, so I reset it to 72 and lo and behold that fixed it. Guess the program tried to scale it and failed somewhat.

What DirectX version do ya need to make the sounds work? They don't work for me and it says above the box that I have the wrong version. ???

>>29922
No no no, not reading as reading, I meant more like watching what I'm writing when I'm writing, so that the ponies seem more, you know, interactive :)
Like, Pinkie Pie would look at what I'm writing, break the 4th wall, smile and go do something else.
But the thing you said would be awesome too, but it would need an artificial intelligence core integrated I presume :D
And those Window Ponies are just walking on the windows, whilst I am more suggesting you to implement some kind of border detection, so they could walk on windows, not only all over the screen. It would totally fit :) Again, the word is: interaction. Now they just wander aimlessly, play presetted animations and sounds. And you do know, I presume, that everybrony's dream is to pat Pinkie on the head and stroke Fluttershy behind her ear? :D It's good, it's very good and I just love it. I'm so looking forward to next updates.
Cheers, *hoof*!

>>29924
See the link in the documentation page under "Installation Instructions":
http://www.desktopponies.com/1_6_Documentation.html

>>29926
Ah. I used to have one of those programs (the whole reason I made this one). It was a little dog that you could pet, throw a ball at, or spray with water if it was bad.

>>29929
See, then, you get my idea. Everything but spraying water, I'd never do that to my Fluttershy. :)

I just wanted to turn them off and go to sleep, and Twilight went "Oh nonononono, no" when I hovered my mouse over her to access the menu - and how, for the love of Celestia, can I do this now? ;_;

>>29929
That would be awesome :3
If I remember my VB-days correctly, wouldn't it be possible to make a behavior that reacts to a click and/or doubleclick?

Right from the thief's DA account: http://samakelly.deviantart.com/

"I'm Leaving and never coming back because some idiots accused me of fraud. I did not steal, I made these by hand with countless hours of work, love and care. I am an honest person, and I do not steal. I only wanted to help my friend and pick up some points from people kind enough to pay for my icon and my hard work. Some have accused me story of the need for points for my friend as 'sappy' but it is 100% true. I am sorry for all my watchers, and whoever wants to go against , , and for running me out, you may do so. Get my Icons while you still can (Still pay, I will be giving my friend the points I have gotten), I am deactivating in 24 hours (5:00 pm tomorrow). I know I haven't been here for long, but I will miss DeviantArt and the kindness expressed to me. I will still be looking at art, but not on an account. My watchers are great artists, and should feel ready to conquer the world by now. This is my first, and last, Journal. Goodbye DeviantArt.
_-Samakelly-_"

Well, looks like somepony is MAD because she didn't got the free money she expected to scam from Deviantart.

StarStepPony, Anonycat and CajNatalie, you guys rule and I congratulate you for crushing that little moron.

>>29945
And nothing of value was lost. Good work, guys!

Yay! All this good news calls for a party. Conga line!

>>29965
Humle! Good to see you swing back around here. What have you been up to?

>>29945

The thief hid all the comments and is preparing her revenge as we talk.
I guess she REALLY wanted all of that free money...

>>30001
"Preparing her revenge"? My that sounds dramatic. Should I add a few extra locks to my doors?

>>30000
Ahh that's adorable! How would the interaction work so that they wouldn't end up in the wrong positions relative to each other though?

>>30000
awesome 30000 get, Conga Ponies!

>>30000
Nice conga, and quads ~_^

>>30000
Everypony conga! Neat!

I've been doing nothing productive at all in terms of ponies, really. I dunno, I just sort of "deflated" and haven't really found my creativity again. But I've been lurking vigorously.

>>30000
Awesome!!! The problem as of now is that if you try to position them for a set period of time that links to the animation, this alignment time is cut of once they are in position. E.g. if you want them to get into position for 15 seconds relative to each other, this 15 seconds will be aborted for the pony that reaches the destination and that pony will switch into the linked animation.
That was the problem with the Gummy biting animation, I planned for Pinkie to wait and for Gummy to get in position for the same time period as Pinkie waits, but Gummy would switch to the next animation once he was in position instead of waiting for the rest of the bahavior time so I had to make them both seak a position relativ to each other and try to make it so they would reach it at about the same time.
From there one could have the enitre animation while the others are invisible for the duration of the animation.

Maybe there could be an option to force a duration of time for a following behavior so that the stalking pony would wait in position for the timer to reach zero?

Also I thought about a little new feature: For adding ponies with the right click, would it be possible to sort the ponies in their filter groups? Either replacing individual names of the ponies by the filter groups or having the filter groups additionally at the top?

>>30000

Hehe, very cute and awesome. My only nitpick is that some of the girl's expressions seem a bit hollow, but it's still a very nice and clever animation.
~ conga!

Also here is Twilight teleporting Pinkie. Feel free to add many other failed spells :p

I'll post a package with the interaction once I finish the party cannon

>>30009
>>30014
>>30016
>>30018
>>30019
>>30020
Thanks Everypony.
Yeah the interaction between them is really bothering me. So I've been messing around seeing if I could even get two ponies congaing at the same time and I can't. The follow behavior isn't even working right for me. I've been trying to have Fluttershy follow Applejack but she refuses to do the conga animation. I set her to conga over to Applejack but she still trots or flys over to her. I even set up a second conga behavior so I could deselect the auto select images when making the follow behavior and select the second conga behavior to be used but she still flys or trots after AJ with barely any conga if I'm lucky enough to get any.

@deathpony I never thought about making them all invisible before but how would I make them all follow each other when there is six of them instead of just two?
Anyway, I love that facial expression on your twilight.

>>30026
I don't have any failed spells but I do have this sprite I made for my game. Its based on on end of Boast Busters where Twilight is stopping the Ursa. Its partially unfinished, if only because its missing the glow around the horn. I did that because my game uses particle effects for that and there's no need for it.

>>30030
Well, everypony should follow the one bofore them in the conga line :)
But I think the forced duration for a following behavior would be manditory for that to work, although it might work for the invisible part, I think it only stops for the linked behavior but lining them up would be the hard part. As of now, all six would have to get in the right position at the exact same time (unless I'm missing something)

I think you should upload that gem to dA to be on the save side:)

I still haven't finished the party cannon. But at least she slaps it. That Twilight animation works nicely with the Pinkie-teleporting animation. I made her dissappear wherever she was and reappear near Twilight, but I think a lot of other things could be added:p

>>30037
Yeah you're probably right. Hopefully DesktopPonyGuy can figure out what's going wrong with the following durations and animations.

Also I took your advice and put it on DA just in case.

Speaking of DA
>>29730
I found that paper bag derpy there: http://browse.deviantart.com/?qh=&section=&q=derpy++bag#/d4dmnu4
we can always ask if he'll let it be put into desktop ponies.

>>30043

Considering how that paper Derpy is nothing but a plain Desktop Ponies Derpy with the paper bags crudely pasted on it, I don't think the "author" would refuse.
And even if the author says no, you guys can make a much better version anyways.

Random suggestion that may either be of no help at all, or be a good placeholder until linked animations / follow can be improved...


Has anypony tried getting one pony/gif to go in to an 'invisible' animation while the other pony/gif has an animation containing both?

For example, Gummy and Pinkie walk up to each-other... Gummy uses 'invisible' gif, and Pinkie uses a gif that includes Gummy biting her mane... this way Gummy will be perfectly positioned on Pinkie because Gummy is part of Pinkie's gif. When it's over, Gummy returns to a visible gif and Pinkie goes back to one of her other 9001 gifs.

>>30049

I was just thinking about this last night, though my idea was to have both running the same gif and just overlapping...because as it is right now, we don't have any interactions where characters touch...we need stuff like what you said, AJ and RD hoof wrestling, stuff like that.

>>30058

We need Trixie intereacting with her magical cart!
Trixie performing on top of her cart while her fireworks explode around, and maybe some ponies could walk by to watch her show.

>>30063

That would be more of an effect...because making Trixie's cart as a separate character isn't needed...it would be more along the lines of AJ's truck or Pinkie's copter thing.

>>30049
The problem here is to get them to start at the same time in the right position, otherwise the invisible "pony" will be visible again too early/late etc.
I had the both follow each other in a manner that the would reach each other at the same time but that wouldn't work with six characters

Boom goes the party.
Off to make some behaviors and displacements

It's done. It has the party cannon and the teleporting interaction.

The only new interaction line is

pinkaport,"Twilight Sparkle",0.02,500,{"Pinkie Pie"},False,{"pinkaport"},300

http://www.mediafire.com/?2hxbr9755n9mhxr

for the conga line thing, what if you have the interaction make the lead pony start dancing, and make the others follow whoever's in front of them, then, when they reach their target, switch to a conga animation and continue following. as long as the dancing is slower than joining the line, wouldnt the line just assemble and work?

>>30111
That was a pretty good idea but the ponies dont seem to like traveling the same direction all the time but when it works it works. I was impressed even when they hit the wall they seemed to keep the perfect distance to keep in conga formation. Out of the eighteen times Ive seen my two test subjects, AJ and Fluttershy, perform the conga they've only gone the same direction 3 times. While that's probably just bad luck I dont think its going to be any better when you put six random chances for failure up there.

Also as a side note never wake up a sleeping fluttershy. She just screamed "How dare you!" when I woke her up wanting to go back to the menu then she gave me the stare. I am now traumatized and feeling incredibly guilty for my actions.

>>30110
She looks so happy when setting off that cannon. We should have a couple balloons come out as effects.

Can I edit the ponies in paint? Every time I try to mess with fillyshy's feet paint won't save the image!
*stamps hoof with irritation*
I would love it if somepony could please explain it to me... if that would be ok... if you wouldn't mind...

>>30135
if you open a gif with paint, paint only opens (and saves) the very first frame.
What you need is either a gif editor or GIMP (or photoshop if you have the coin). in GIMP http://www.gimp.org/ each frame will be an own layer. You can try Animation Shop Pro as well http://board.jokeroo.com/progress-material/64777-free-jasc-animation-shop-v311.html
both are free. You can either edit in the other software itself or copy a frame to paint

Hello everypony,
I'm relatively new here but I've been watching this program and all the awesome contributions to it for a while, and after more-or-less succeeding at finishing my OC pony I thought I'd try my hoof at making the 'Mysterious Mare Do Well', since it seems she hasn't been done yet.
So far I've only finished the trot cycle and I'm still not entirely satisfied with her cape. Was hoping I could get a bit of feedback.
Thanks!

>>30148

Looks very well for your first, congratulations.
The cape animation looks OK for me, since she's just trotting, not running at full speed.

>>30148
Aw, you've beaten me to it.

It's good. Personally speaking, I think the cape could be longer, but I know how difficult capes can be.

>>30149
>>30150
Thank you both!
Heh, sorry Bot-Chan, but I'm sure if you did one it would outshine mine by far. The animation and details on the Luna you made were brilliantly done.

I had initially tried a longer cape but alas it proved beyond me to animate it properly. :(

As it is I currently have plans to fiddle with the cape/collar a bit more and add an idle, flying animations, maybe a magic animation where the hat levitates and, if I can find a proper template, running animations.

>>30099
Eee she looks incredible! The only thing is that the party cannon doesn't seem to have much range - would it be possible to code some balloons and streamers and confetti and stuff shooting out as a separate animation though, like with Trixie's fireworks?

I'm not that experienced, but I could try making some balloons and stuff for her if that could be done; I'm not sure how precise the things would need to be to work though.

hey guys...

http://kokokokunuts.deviantart.com/gallery/?catpath=/&offset=24

Theif detected. Again.

>>30159
That one was mentioned last month, and she doesn't seem to have stolen anything else since then. Stolen sprites are still up there though. Always good to see the dA mods doing their job /sarcasm

>>30152
Thanks.
I already did a basic running animation (just have to fine tune it a bit). I could change it a bit to make it fit your trotting animation and save you some work ;)
As for the cape - Trixie's seems to be a suitable length, so she might be a good base.
Oh, something else I noticed: in the episode, the outlines of her hoof wrappings are of a lighter color. Maybe you could do that with the sprite, too. Just a suggestion.

>>30018 Hoh you're alive! you don't have to lurk like that, you know. You're always welcome to give cc or even cheer people up a bit. It always nice to hear from you. (Stalking is creepy)
>>30000
lol that so awesome XD
remind me of a game idea for DP
which was simply a "snake game"
eat ponies get a==> longer conga line
anyhoof you're doing an awesome job each time
>>30033 oh yeah i remember this on "window ponies"
also remind me that there's also "CMC call animation", "brohoof", and more i think...great job too
>>30110 ha! you did it again! oh you
>>30148 hey that really great: hat really well made, the lines on the foots doesn't giggle like mine does
cuz i'm lazy. It a pretty good start actually it great!
But i remember anonycat calling for it but since he haven't made or send it yet or dead or zombi...it ok i guess.

>>29808
They may be apples and oranges, but it doesn't matter much if you just put them both in a blender.

V1.39 TEST VERSION #1:
http://www.mediafire.com/?d3w9c4pnd7gm8fw

Changes:
-new graphics method, from >>29808
-Your settings file will no longer grow continuously every time you save (this also made loading times longer).
-New options in the options menu: Ponies Always On Top. Checked: Ponies walk over everything like they own the place, as they normally do. Unchecked: Ponies will walk behind windows that you are working on.
-Pinkie Pie now lures parasprites again (somehow the interaction was lost in a previous update. Again.).
-The user-specified "standing animation" for behaviors that follow should work properly now. Ponies that reach their destination should wait for a bit using this animation before continuing on (previously they would stop and run in place).
-Checking the option to have ponies teleport immediately if they are outside their allowed area will also affect ponies who are already trying to walk onscreen.
-Selecting more random ponies than there are unique ones and then asking for "no duplicates" will no longer give you the excess as "Raindrops".

Known issues:
-A few images/animations still need fixing. For example: The "Gala dresses" (appear too large) and one of Dash's running images (plays too fast). Let me know if you find any others.
-Ponies seem to have a difficult time walking onscreen if they were dragged out of it.
-I still need to remove the 75 pony limitation (that you can override in the options menu).

I've also added a progress bar for loading ponies... But I think I'll remove it. At least on my machine the loading is too fast to enjoy watching it.

I had a heck of a time making RoosterDragon's method work for multiple monitors... Let me know if you find any bugs (i know they are there...) or if you have worse performance than before with a small # of ponies.

>>30172
Thanks, I'll definitely consider what you've suggested, and that running animation would be incredibly appreciated. ^^ I've been going through pony folders looking for a psd, like the flying one I found in Rainbow's but so far no luck.

As for the hoof wrappings I noticed them on the reference image I was using and originally made them that colour but the contrast was kind of blah at such small scale.

Here's a test image with the wrappings returned to their original colour and Trixie's cape shopped on as an example. I think I probably will remake the cape using this one as a base. Thanks again for the tip!

>>30178
Ahhh everywhere I click is a pony! I will try to click on something and it will act as though I clicked on the nearest pony even if they are half a screen away. If I set the ponies to walk behind the window Im working on I can alt tab to one but as soon as I try to click on something thats not that program, ie another program desktop icon, it acts as though I clicked on the ponies again. Windows XP.

>>30181
Yikes! That's a heck of a thing for me to not notice. On my XP test machine, both my and the .net 4 version just gives a blank white screen.

I'll have to see why the new way doesn't work while the old one does.

>>30178
It seems like some interactions don't trigger correctly. Sometimes they work, but sometimes it seems that one character is triggered while the other remains unaffected or doesn't run the animation. But I think it only happend with 1.381

There seem to be interactions missing:
follow-angel-fluttershy,"Fluttershy",0.01,300,{"Angel"},False,{"follow_angel"},300
follow-angel-fluttershy2,"Fluttershy",0.01,300,{"Angel"},False,{"follow_angel12"},300

I haven't noticed any slowdowns of any sort with a few ponies. 1000 ponies are no problem, but there seem to be some random giant. It arrears to affect animations with only one frame. Sometimes it's not scaled and one time it dissappeared. Sometimees there is a white border around the pony for a time (see screenshot) it will appear and disappear at the same animation.
The dragging and effects seem to be displaced

>>30185
forgot the screenshot and password

>>30186
Moo, my browser wasn't saving the paswords...
The issue with the interactions >>30185
still seems to occur in 1.391

Is a dragged pony now centered, or uncentered? I mean was it correct before or is it correct now?
Is it possible to make a custom curser for the mouseover and dragging?

>>30178
When using autostart, the program creates an entry in the taskbar. Left click does nothing, right click shows close as the only available option. This doesn't happen when i start it manually. Is there a way to avoid this "useless" taskbar entry when using autostart?

>>30178
Rather criminalistic memory usage if you load all the ponies, then return to menu and run just the one pony. (900m of memory for one darned pony) I assume this was to avoid reloading the images since that takes a while.

Better usage would be to specify a manager with New ImageManager(False, True, True) so it keeps loaded stuff around until you say you want it gone.

Then when returning to menu, the images stay loaded whilst a new set of ponies if selected.

After starting, ReleaseUnreferencedHandlers() can be called explicitly to cull the excess.

You'll have to reload new images, but it stops the program becoming #OccupyRAM.

>>30161

So she got to steal and lie, then when she was caught she just kicked people away from her DA, hid the posts calling her on it and happily resumed her stupid, thieving existence without a care or problem in the world.

>Always good to see the dA mods doing their job /sarcasm

Words of wisdom, my friend.

Alright, here's the updated Mare Do Well trot cycle using a longer cape similar to Trixie's, which looks much better imo. Thanks again to Bot-Chan for that. :)
I also redid the collar in a fashion that I'm happy with.
I think I'll keep the hoof wrappings a darker colour for now, unless anypony thinks the original lighter colour would be better, in which case it wouldn't be too much trouble to replace them again.

>>30195

The cape kinda jitters near the end of the cycle.

>>30197
Yeah, I noticed I had the frame delays set a little to fast and updated my post with a better-timed copy.
It removed some of that 'jitter' but I'll still put some work into making the movement a bit more subtle.
Thanks much for your feedback! :)

Alright, I've done a little more work on the cape. How's this?

Everypony look so awesome and adorable in my desktop, all thank to you, Can somepony make Discord? Is my dream to have him paraspriting in my Deskopt.

>>30207
I think the old thread had some Discord animations.

>>30196
Okay, this is my try at a galloping Mare Do-Well. Maybe you like the hoof wrappings like this? I think it's not to jarring like this, but it's your choice. :)

And here's a potential dragged animation for RD. I guess she'd actually struggle a bit more, but I like her annoyed look.
http://www.filer.net/get/deed99c728ba5a3/file/rd-dragged.rar

>>30223
OMG, Praise to Bot-chan

>>30222
Hey, thanks so much!
The animation on your cape looks perfect and I love the little flip on the front of the hat!
I also agree on the foot wrappings, the darkened colour looks a lot better.
Thanks again for your help. :)

Hello all! You may remember me from the, what, 3rd thread? Oh well. I had a diff name then. Downloaded the latest i had 1.25 and it's awesome! Keep it up!

>>30223
I love you. No homo.

>>30223

Bot-Chan, have you considered opening a Deviantart account to keep your animations safely placed on a single place?
The other animators here do it all the time to keep better contact among them AND to protect themselves from thieves, which sadly also happens all the time.

Thanks

>>30238
Not yet, but maybe I will.

>>30178
Oh, this new version is pretty fast, even with a lot of ponies loaded. That's definizely a good thing (even though it means that I have to readjust the timing of some of my animations).
It's got some bugs, though.
- Often and apparantly at random, speeches wouldn't be triggered anymore (very noticable during interactions and mouse-overs)
- Effects are often misaligned (very noticable with DJ-Pon3 and Carrot Top). This seems to come up mostly when the pony is facing left.
- At times, effects would not appear at all (happened quite often with Filly RD's sonic rainboom)
- Every once in a while, a pony would appear to get stuck motionless for a short while. This seems to be a problem with the graphics for this pony not refreshing and it only affects single ponies.

http://www.mediafire.com/?jxydb78y0ydrp47

File with a few image fixes that should prevent giant ponies, and the transparent areas on Screwball.

The problem with refreshing graphics seems to be a bug in calculating the areas that need repainting. That might also explain the lack of some effects. Try running with 20 or more ponies onscreen as this forces it to be fully refreshed every time. If that solves it, we've narrowed down the cause, if not then at least we know it's something else.

I don't have any insight into the speech and effect placement issues.

>>30325
Okay, so I tried running the program with just above 20 ponies, and while it's difficult to keep an eye on all of them, I didn't notice any refreshing issues.
But apparantly, more ponies also causes the effects to disappear and speeches to not work anymore. They reappeared after quitting some of the ponies (along with the refreshment problems).

About the effect placements: they look okay on unscaled ponies facing right, but are displaced on every other occassion.

So is there any reason Discord isn't in, or has no one just gotten around to him yet?

Also, interesting find... When running Cave Story in a window, the ponies move relative to the game when within the window, that is, if both Quote (scrolling the screen) and the pony are moving right, the pony moves slower, as if rushing to keep up. Is this a quirk of Cave Story's coding, or did you guys code in a special reaction?

>>30350

He was being worked on, but proved difficult...and that's as far as it got.

>>30350
>>30207
Sorry I had him mostly done but got frustrated with one of his animations so put him on the back burner til I was ready to try it again. I have been super busy these past 3 weeks and havent had time for much spriting. Sorry again for taking this long. I will finish him up before the new year.

>>30325
I realised I forgot a few images, so I did a comprehensive check to make sure I got them all this time. Here's the (hopefully) full set.
http://www.mediafire.com/?2e87cnzmn3chmk5

>>30336
Looked at effects, seems like the code is not in place yet to account for pony facing and scaling. So no bug, just unfinished at the moment.

My best bet about speech is that it doesn't like multiple tooltips per window. I got around it by drawing a custom speech box. That also comes with the bonus that you could style it however you wanted. For instance, I was thinking you could have a custom colour scheme to suit each pony.

>>30350
Absolute coincidence. If I had to speculate (and I really am guessing here) I would say scrolling in Cave Story taxes your processor more, thus the ponies run slower because there's no longer as much CPU.

>>30379
The issue with Cave Story is that it works both ways. If I'm moving right and the pony is moving left, they go faster. I've actually had it set to stay in windows, but then scrolled them out. Like I say, it's probably an odd quirk in Cave Story's code, not Desktop Ponies'.

Another small bug: when there's a change from one animation to another, often the pony would show a wrong frame of the animation for a split second before showing it from the beginning. It's quite noticable on animations with huge size differences like Pinkie unfolding her copter.

But now for something different: Have Spitfire zipping around the screen here:

http://www.filer.net/get/6bb26ad5146e636/file/Spitfire-dash.rar

... and a small update for some of Twilight's animations here:

http://www.filer.net/get/c73647a45aff379/file/Twilight-update.rar

>>30541

That sounds like what I described (or tried to) in the previous thread, where there's another image of the pony for just a moment in the wrong spot as it goes from the end of one animation, into the beginning of another. However, I've also seen this happen on smaller sized animations (like when Twilight sits to read through her book, or when Pinkie rolls on the ground). It seems to be a bug that started around test version #4 or #5 of 1.38, as I don't recall ever seeing it in the earlier test versions, or in 1.37.

Oh, and this happens in both the regular program, and in the screensaver.

Anypony interested in Luna's royal guards?

>>30592

Someopony else already submited some hi-quality Luna guards.

>>30541
>>30589

This was an easy one thankfully. The code didn't restart animations until one frame had been drawn, so one random frame would sneak in. This is for 1.39#1 though, I don't think earlier stuff would've had it.

Boring code stuff: Fix is to move condition commented with "This check ensures that animations restart from the first frame when appropriate." in Pony.Update (~ line 686 in Pony.vb) to the end of the method.

Question for everypony running 1.39 test #1...

Am I the only one finding that some animations are going way, way, WAY too fast? Rainbow Dash's running animation was what looked like a good 5 or 6 times faster than normal ("normal" being how it was in v1.38), yet she still moved across the screen at the regular pace. It made her look like she was running on ice. I also noticed other animations going a good 2 to 3 times faster than normal for other ponies (Applejack's dropping apples, Twilight's "flame mane" animation, etc.).

Is this a bug that needs to be worked out, or is there a setting I missed when I looked the new executable's menu over?

Hey guys I'm working on a bg pony at request of a friend, and I'm not to sure how I should do her forehead.
I know there are other problems with it, but this is the problem I'm fixing at the moment.
Hears the picture Im using as a reference.
http://pageturner1988.deviantart.com/art/Cotton-Cloudy-217767380

working blinking Colgate sitting animation
http://www.mediafire.com/?irup59a6p4acqc4

>>30611
That seems to be a problem with the gif-files themselves. The earlier versions of the program was too slow to handle really fast animations and would slow them down. The new version does not have these problems, so if an animation is super fast, it will be played superfast.

In short, it's not the programs fault, it's the animations that have to be fixed.

Okay, forget what I said about the missing effects before. It appears that, no matter if you start the program with just six or with a hundred ponies, the effects will show just fine. Only if you _add_ a pony through the right click menu do the effects dissapear. Removing a pony will make them work again.

Truly a strange bug...

>>30616

Huh. Odd.

I checked the timing for Rainbow Dash's hyper-speed run, and it was set at .01. I slowed it down to .04 and it seemed to be better. It's a scary thought, having to redo all the timing to fit with the new engine, but it looks like that'll be needed.

However, I saw several other problems while I was waiting for RD to go into her run so I could see if it was better...

- Rarity's Gala sprite was at least double its normal size, with the bottom half of her cut off.
- RD's Sonic Rainboom flying sprite was missing her head each time it was done.
- The sprite for Pinkie's sneeze (the one where she careens across the screen) was missing it's back third every time it was done.

Something's knocking at least some of the fast moving sprites off center, and causing them to be cropped incorrectly. Is this a bug in the new engine, or something else attributed to the sprites themselves?

>>30642

See >>30325 and >>30379 for some info on this.
Giant ponies were a sprite issue, I have fixed images in those posts. The bad cropping is indeed a bug. Each pony reports the screen area it occupies so only that area has to be updated. They're not quite reporting the right area at the moment, so you get cropped sprites.

>>30630
That is weird, but it's damned helpful knowing what's actually triggering it.

Well...

I've been trying to figure out why the new method doesn't seem to work on XP - Windows will consider the entire screen as the application and not treat the transparent parts as it should.

I haven't found a solution, sadly.

If a fix can't be found, my inclination is to revert the graphics changes. I wouldn't be too keen on having two versions, one for XP and another for the rest...

>>30692
To clarify: Do you mean the form is in fact transparent (no white background) but isn't supporting click-through?

Assuming that's the case, that would seem weird since I just used the same TransparencyKey/BackColor trick. Perhaps the same thing is happening, except it's less apparent since the ponies have their own windows so there isn't much transparent region to steal clicks.

I managed to find something promising about layered windows though, which among other things seems to let mouse events pass through transparent regions.

This code can be chucked into PonyGraphicsForm.vb, it sets the form to have the layered window style.

Protected Overrides ReadOnly Property CreateParams() As CreateParams
Get
Dim cp As CreateParams = MyBase.CreateParams
cp.ExStyle = cp.ExStyle Or &H80000 ' WS_EX_LAYERED
Return cp
End Get
End Property

I can't test if that adds click-through because I don't think I have an XP machine anywhere. Please let me know if it works the necessary magic though.

hohoho happy chrismas everypony
here's fleur de lys
http://www.mediafire.com/?uow2pvq8q19ctc2

>>30701
Right - the issue is that it doesn't support click-through (the white background apparently is only because i was trying to use a VirtualBox VM to test this - on a physical XP machine transparency works).

The WS_EX_LAYERED code your provided has no effect, however I did find something that does work, sort of:

If you use SetStyle to tell the form to support transparent background colors, and set the background as 0,0,0,0 (0 alpha, black) then it works!

But as you can imagine that is the most inconvenient color to use, and no other combination works.

I'll keep at it to see what else I can do...

>>30710
Oh my god, Fleur! You are my favorite animator!! ^^


Now, 1.39 test1, onto the bugs: picrelated.
+ sometimes the Sonic Rainboom causes all ponies to stop for a half o' minute - including Dashie, so it's like she turns to her flyzoom.gif, everything stops, 20-30 seconds pass, and ponies are back on their buisness.

Also, I remember that previously, all there ponies were in their own window-apps if you look in ALT+TAB, and now there's only one window - is this a consequence of the new rendering method?

>>30727
Well, I certainly hope that you'll be able to work the bugs out, because the improved performance even with large amount of ponies is just too good to go to waste.

>>30710
Nice Fleur :)

Oh, and yes - the "No pony.ini in <foldername>, ..., do you want to skip seeing these errors?" still appearing every time I launch DP.exe, no matter have I pressed Yes, No or Cancel. *finally moves folder with tryouts at pixeling to one level above*

Despite RoosterDragon's efforts, Screwball still looked weird for me, and Pink Filly Celestia also had a transparent spot.
Here are some fixed gifs that hopefully solves these issues with those two ponies (at least it works for me now).
http://www.filer.net/get/1270715c891eece/file/pinkfillycelestia-screwball-fixes.rar

>>30767
The transparency used to be some odd pink color, but the test version uses near-pure-white, which I think is causing the problem. It will be moved to something else eventually.

>>30751
Right, the new version only uses 1 window per monitor instead of 1 per pony.

Also,
I don't think any more testing of the test version 1 is needed at the moment. So please hold off until test v 2. Thanks for everypony's help.

>>30727

That's interesting. Having poked around with it, it seems to set an all black background probably for its own uses. So you can indeed cheat by using a black key but as you say that's a really useless colour to use.

I did so more digging on layered windows, and it seems I missed the step where you tell it what you're up to. Derp. It seems more promising, because I can skip setting a TransparencyKey and it'll work fine.

Anyway in addition to what I had before there's a DllImport.

<System.Runtime.InteropServices.DllImport("user32.dll")> _
Private Shared Function SetLayeredWindowAttributes(hwnd As IntPtr, crKey As Integer, bAlpha As Byte, dwFlags As Integer) As Integer
End Function

In the PonyGraphicsForm constructor, comment out the line that sets TransparencyKey. Add this line after it:

SetLayeredWindowAttributes(Handle, BackColor.ToArgb(), 255, &H1)

Should have the same effect without the use of TransparencyKey. If that doesn't fix it, I'm inclined to blame XP for being different.

>>30751
Some of that is definitely the clipping problems already brought up, until they're fixed it's hard to know if the other stuff is different bugs.

And yeah, the one window is exactly because of the new rendering method. I figure not having ponies flooding alt-tab is a nice bonus.

I don't know if this is the universally accepted fanon name for this guy, but anyway, if you ever wanted to have Derpy's forestallion trotting around the screen giving everypony a mean look, well, here's your chance:
http://www.filer.net/get/65938d8d13795ae/file/BoxxyBrown.rar

Btw, I seem to remember somepony working on Mr. and Mrs. Cake once, but I can't find them anymore. Were they ever finished?

>>30801
His wings are growing out of his neck and the neck itself is too short for him...

>>30774
Yup, I blame XP. I had already tried that and again, no effect.

I found that I can just detect if the OS is XP or not, and if so, set the background color to black, and shift all the blacks in the images up slightly (1,1,1) with a "ColorMap".

It's ugly, and I'm sure not as fast as a plain "drawimageunscaled" but it works. My old XP laptop is now 50 AppleJack-horsepower instead of 5, and I can actually click the background...

Now I can finally get to all the other things that need attention.

A request:

Any ponies that have been made in the previous 5 threads that either
A.) Never made it into the main program
OR
B.) Never were finished
Please send to rdndyny@yahoo.com.

Please excuse my uselessness but I'm a huge fan and will be eternally grateful to whomever can help.

Thanks.

<3

V1.39 TEST VERSION 2:

http://www.mediafire.com/?23eblr7scs248ae

Lets see if there are less bugs or more than the last one...

CHANGES:

- A problem preventing interation on the desktop ("Everything is a

pony!") for machines running XP (Actually, anything older than

Vista) has been fixed.
- A problematic transparancy color choice (near-white) has been

moved back to the traditional awful-pink. This caused some ponies

(like screwball) to have transparent eyes and other oddities.
- Added a total selected pony counter to the main screen.
- The program will no longer show up in the taskbar when loading in

autostart mode.
- Memory usage is reduced when returning to the menu.
- Ponies should no longer flicker when they overlap each other.
- Speeches that are set to run at the end of a behavior were

inadvertantly disabled. Fixed.
- Effects are now facing the proper direction when ponies move to

the left.
- Opening the right-click menu will no longer disable effects.
- Dead images on unused monitors will be cleaned up periodically.
- Image fixes from RoosterDragon applied for some ponies to fix

various issues.
- Default pony limit increased to 300 from 75.

-NO other new art applied yet.
-Known issues: Old pony images may not be cleaned up properly

if they go too fast or the machine skips some frames.

And now to go through some of the posts i've neglected..

>>30187
It is correct now, if the pony has image centers set in their ini file.
In older versions, or if there is no image centers set, it was just the center of the image.

>>30188
I'll have that fixed in the next test version.

>>30191
Oops. Actually that was just me leaving a whole lot of cleanup stuff commented out.

>>30246
Mouseover speech was disabled, and it was only end-speech that was broken. Will be fixed in the next test.
Thanks for pointing out the problem with left-facing pony effects. Also will be fixed.

I can't seem to reproduce the other issue though (motionless ponies). Can you give more details?

(I see your note about the effects being broken by the add-pony menu - thanks, i've found the cause of that as well).

>>30605

Thanks. I haven't noticed this (maybe my eyes are too slow), but

I'll make that change.

>>30883
(And where I say "Next version" in this post I mean the one I just posted...)

I now notice I neglected some issues:

-I tried some interactions but didn't see any problems. Which ones in particular don't work?
-Another cursor for dragging should be doable...
-Also I did NOT fix mouseover speech yet..

Googletrans:
Unhandled exception in the application. When you click "Continue" application will ignore the error and attempt to continue. Pressing the "Exit" the application immediately quits.
Input string was not valid.
And after clicking 'continue' there is just clean screen of DP.exe without any pony, but with working editor, options, etc.

Also, something from.. "Information", that list to the left of 'Continue', with a lot of words I completely don't understand:
************** Exception Text **************
System.FormatException: Input string was not valid.
in Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ParseDouble (String Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat)
in Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble (String Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat)

>>30883
It's not actually motionless ponies, more like a still image that gets left behind while the pony itself is in an area that doesn't get updated, thus being invisible.

I hope that the attached picture can explain it better.

Also (and this also happened in the previous test version) it's at times really difficult to select a pony with the mouse if there are a lot of ponies grouped together (and I don't mean overlapping, just standing in the general area is enough).

That ColorMap thing was a good find. Not a bad workaround, and doesn't hurt performance too much.

Regarding XP
>>30897
I'm thinking it's probably choking on parsing the OS version. Try Environment.OSVersion instead, it doesn't use strings for everything.

>>30902
Yeah that's definitely clipping problems. The ponies themselves are fine, just the graphics are off. If you dragged a working pony over the affected areas, the leftover pixels should get removed.

I've been working on something to cut the memory usage by creating some indexed graphics. It makes loading a bit slow but cuts memory by 70%. I think it could be used to do a colour map too, but without the slowdown.

>>30897
>>30927
It is choking on the OS version, but just because I put it before the InvariantCulture part... oops.

>>30902
Ah, I gotcha. Still working on that bit. I was thinking about having the ponies keep track of their recent positions until the graphics part clears them.

>>30931
Easiest fix would be to set threshold to 0 just for the moment so the whole screen is redone each time.

Solving the clipping problem should be simple, we know the pre/post update draw regions aren't correct. But multiple forms seems to be complicating that a whole bunch, it'd be way easier with just one.

Is it possible to create the form super big so it covers all the screens at once? (e.g. would a 2048x768 form cover two screens of 1024x768 at once?)

One form managing itself would sure beat the main form having to manage several and deal with screen/form co-ordinate conversions and such.

>>30986
One large form it what I tried initially, but it tuns out to be just too many pixels - performance suffers noticeably. For example, my two monitor system would be a total of 3200 x 1200 = 3.8m pixels.

Also, the current system has the benefit of separating monitors out - if the user has multiple monitors but there are only ponies on one, no drawing is done on the others.

V1.39 TEST VERSION #3:
http://www.mediafire.com/?rnsj4gyynjqkflc

Changes:
-Systems set to Russian or other languages will no longer crash on startup.
-The pony counter now is correct on startup.
-"Frozen Pony Syndrome" aka "Leftover Graphics" should no longer occur (hopefully, please let me know).
-New option in the options menu: Suspend and hide when full-screen applications are running. (Enabled by default).

-No new graphics/ponies yet. (If there are no new bugs and all the old ones are fixed, the next one will be all art updates).

>>30902
Please let me know if you still get these with this version. I'm hoping it is fixed with this (details: Resize_Graphics() was only considering the pony's current location, and not the "DrawAreas" of where it was previously).

>>31071
Bleh, this is me. I cleared my cache :(

>>31071
Well, Dash's "sprint" (dashing_*.gif) still plays fast as hell, and she still becames a Headless Horse while performing Rainboom. But at least that mad flickering on dinodash_*.gif has gone.
And it seems like the program launches a bit slower now.

Also, I've seen this time ago, but didn't reported. If you'll stretch from side to side or turn to fullscreen the ponies' list while being in the middle of it, and then move it back to normal, there appears a big empty space in the begining.

>>31077
Oh well, I edited sprint's sprites so the single frame lasts 0.04 seconds instead of 0.01... and now Dashie works fine. Even the, erhm, headlessness is gone... almost.

Hey everypony, I see a lot of amazing sprite animators here (and DPG suggested this was the best place to ask as not a lot of you have easily contactable methods) and I was wondering if anypony would be willing to help out my 8bit/pixel art MLP game? As a programmer I am not a very artistically inclined pony and would really appreciate the help. If you could reply here or shoot me an email that would be awesome. Regardless, hope y'all have a great new years. Cheers!

>>31071
Okay, I've tried the new version, and the leftover graphics are gone now. :)

Some things that are still there are problems with fast moving ponies (the "headless horse" bug as it seems to be called), though as a quick workaround, making the canvas bigger than the sprites themselves (by 30 or so pixels) seems to take care of it.

Lastly, the selecting-the-wrong-pony-with-the-mouse bug is still there. Hmm.

Dizzy Twister.

>>31092

New content!
Yay! :D

>>31092
um can we get a link to the file?

>>31253
It's not finished yet.

>>31077
The clipping looked fixed to me. If you hadn't mentioned dashing dash I wouldn't have noticed. I knocked up a comparison between the test version and mine. Seems like the clip is off for that image but like I say, the others seem fine.

The massive blank area seems to be something funky with Windows. My version gets a similar blank area at the end after a minimise and restore. Weird.

>>31083
Selecting a pony seems to be going by the top left corner of each pony right now, rather than the centre. A simple fix at least.

Otherwise everything looks pretty good :) An art update would be neat.

In other news, I knocked up a rough gif decoder so I had more control over the images, and now the memory usage is only 230m fully loaded compared to 890m. It doesn't produce the right results for every image, but it's mostly there.

For anypony who fancies giving it a quick go, here's an .exe, just drop into the same folder as the existing one and go. It's mostly changes on the inside though so not much to see.
http://www.mediafire.com/?n3y6b5qyghvnz6q

I hate to bring bad news but...
http://jenetikitty.deviantart.com/gallery/?catpath=/&offset=24

The first one of the year.

>>31254
All I made was a single sprite. Don't really have the time to finish it, so somepony else is free too.

>>31257
Actually, those Lyra and Bon-bon look better than mine.

>>31257
None of those are taken from this program, even the series' ponies seem to have been created from scratch. And tbh, I like that Twilight's face better.

Hello everypony!

I'm here to request permission to use the desktop ponies sprites for my game "A hop, skip and a jump". Up to this point, I've been contacting artists individually but some of you can only be found here. I was also suggested that I credit the whole team with something like "Desktop Ponies' artists" (rather than individual names), which I'm happy to do (provided there are no objections). This would also make it easier for me so I don't have to identify which sprite belongs to whom.

If you have any questions, feel free to e-mail me at my username at derpymail dot org. I can also send you a link to the current version of the game for preview. Although, if there are no problems regarding permissions, I will be posting that link on ponychan anyway.

(I also apologize in advance if this post ends up causing trouble in your thread.)

And just to post something on topic:
>>31256
I can easily batch process all sprites if they need to be formatted in a certain way so it works with your decoder. So feel free to post here with any such request (its a bit difficult for me to access a Windows machine for testing though).

>>31256
Launched, and BOOM! Picrelated.
And second part is after I pressed Enter and hold it through all 103 error messages.

>>31257
...Is the "sparkledog" termin applyable to them?.. But, however, some are pretty neat, including the actual show's ponies.

It's not working. I open it, and then says it says it stops working, that window closes, and nothing happens.

>>31318
Should've known that would happen. Fixed version below with some additional updates to the decoder. I changed a few things so it should give correct images for most everything now, and otherwise bail out.
http://www.mediafire.com/?tzr66egzbw5tszd

>>31306
The only issue I haven't worked around at the moment is images that use transparency, but don't reserve a spot on the palette for transparent. I could fix that eventually, but if you know a way to adjust the palette on those it'd be handy. Good luck with your game :)

>>31362
If the program fails to even start, you're probably missing the .NET framework.
The program requires v3.5:
www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=25150

If you have the time, you could also get v4 just to be up to date:
www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=17851

>>31364
Have you solved the clipping while Sonic Rainboom by just deleting the animation?) I had DP launched for a half of hour, and no SR happened yet...

>>31364

Actually, I just realized that .gifs have to specify a transparent colour to get any transparency. A .png file on the other hand doesn't (but you specifically said gif decoder).

In fact, the only .gif file that does not have transparency (as far as I can tell) is "Filly Rainbow Dash/Rainbow_Effect.gif". I'm attaching the index of the transparent colour for the first frame of every .gif file to this post. (Getting it for all frames would also be easy.)

Could you post an example of an image that works with your decoder and an example of an image that does not?

Maybe its the dispose method that's actually causing trouble.

>>31083
The next version (test v 4) will fix both of those issues.

>>31256
After goofing around in Skyrim for a while (sorry), I'm working on the art (and other) updates now; Expect a new test version sometime this week (and then, hopefully, the final V1.39).

I "fixed" the blank areas by just resetting the scroll bars to 0 on a resize...

>>30187
I swear I thought I had fixed the dragging to have the mouse cursor set over the center of the image, if it was specified. It WILL be. Noticed this didn't work when trying to drag derpy by her hooves.

>>31367
I can assure you I didn't :P, besides DPG says he's fixed it so that's good news.

>>31379
Well I'm a BF3 addict myself :)

I did a similar "fix" for the scrollbars by forcing a layout when the form was restored from minimise. Still a weird bug though. I wonder if a bug submission to MS is in order.

>>31371
This could take longish post to explain, so apologies to everypony in this thread from whom this is just some long derail. :/

Anyway, the transparency index for each frame isn't the problem. It's the palette.

Imagine an image that uses 16 colours, and also defines a transparency index for each frame. I attempt to decode each frame into an indexed bitmap, which means the palette for that bitmap must hold 17 colours (the 16 colours plus one for transparency).

Most encoders are nice and will build a palette with a spot reserved for transparency whose value doesn't matter. This means I can usurp this value for an actual transparency in the final result. So a nice encoder would build a palette of 17 in my example.

However a clever encoder will use a 16-colour palette. The palette doesn't actually need to have transparent in it, so they could happily use an index of 16 or more. It's clever but it means I can't cheat and usurp a spot in the palette for transparency.

To make it work I'd have to expand the palette from 16 to 17 to provide space, but then that requires an extra bit per pixel. Well a 16-color palette fits exactly into 4bbp so I have to scale up to 8bbp which means I have to upscale all my buffers and refill them and the code is such a mess right now it would go horribly wrong until I get a chance to clean it up somewhat.

As for examples, well so far it works on all the current pony images correctly (as far as I can tell) with the exception of two images that are encoded as described above. They're alt-left.gif and alt-walk-left.gif in the Princess Luna (Season 2) folder. If you need more examples I could zip up some of the images I ran through the optimization tool that are also like that.

Also, it's C# so it should work under Mono which would allow some testing...

Blah I'm getting ahead of myself, it'd be easier if I just fixed my damned code. I mean if I handle this one edge case I can successfully read all the existing files right.

Oh well the text wall was kinda cathartic. Think I need to relax and watch some more pony.

>>31432

I didn't know you could do that. That's really weird. It confuses different programs in different ways (but always ends up displaying the image correctly).

If I understand correctly, all this saves on is the part of the file that stores palette colours. But don't you still need 5 bits to store the pixels? (Or do they always use the full 8 bits regardless of palette size?) Here, I'm talking about the .gif file itself and not how it is stored in your program.

Anyway, tell me if the attached image is indeed fixed. Its not very clever and just increases the palette size. But it also uses local palette sizes (I didn't know this was possible before). If this works, I can process all files this way (or you can give me a list and I'll just process those in the list).

Another thing to note about alt-left.gif in particular is that only the first frame uses 17 colours (and all the others go back to 16!) which makes me think somepony just forgot to reduce the palette size on the first frame (and change the image accordingly, of course).

>Also, it's C# so it should work under Mono which would allow some testing...

I tried Wine and Mono a while back but they didn't work (I didn't try very hard to fix it though and don't remember the error messages).

V1.39 Test Version 4. Hopefully the last test version.

http://www.mediafire.com/?rbnqnd1lyivuu3j

Changes since test 3:

+New option in the option menu: Sound Volume control. Allows you to adjust pony speech volume independently of other sounds.
-The Add-Pony right-click option is now sorted, instead of being one giant list.
-The right click menu is now labeled with the name of the pony the menu was generated for.
-New option in the right click menu: "Close all copies of X" (darn parasprites).
-Clicking a pony to drag them should select the appropriate pony more often. (It was selecting them based on their upper-left corner instead of who had the closet center).
-"Headless Horse" disease should be reduced if not eliminated thanks to the recent discovery of ponicillin. (Pre- and Post- drawing clipping areas are given a 40% extra margin).
-When resizing the main menu, the scroll bars will reset to their initial positions to prevent gaps from forming.
-Snips and Snails have been demoted from "Stallions" to "Colts" in the tagging system.
-When dragging, the cursor will be fixed over the specified center of the image (as set in the editor). If no center is specified, the exact center of the image is used. See Derpy or Rainbow Dash for an example.
-A mysterious person named "Jacob" corrected the punctuation for all the ponies and fixed many other issues with the speech text (including correcting the number of "Yes"s in Twilight's line).
-Somepony who signed the e-mail "-Panzi" pointed out a lot of duplicate and un-referenced files, which have been cleaned up or fixed.

New/changed art:
-Berry Bunch has had some minor fixes to her sitting images applied (white spot removal).
-Fleur de Lis by Pony Noia.
-Additional art for Philomena (From a while ago).
-Derpy Dragging animation by Blackfeathr
-Colgate Sitting animation by Vulcan539
-Pinkaport and PinkieCannon animations and interaction by DeathPony
-Rainbow Dash drag-by-the-tail animations by Bot-chan
-New spitfire (uniformed) animations by Bot-chan
-Luna's personal guard, by Bot-Chan
-Fancy Pants by Pony Noia
-Mysterious Mare Do Well by JavaNut

Other items:
-I think I know how to change the cursor now (pretty simple), but I couldn't find a cursor that I wanted for dragging yet...
-I still haven't put in mouseover speech. Maybe I'll leave it off. It was slightly annoying. Opinions?

>>31453
you miss boxxy brown from bot-chan here >>30801
other than that nice work

>>31460
Thanks.

>>30801
This is the only Mr Cake I remember seeing.

>>31453
All glitches that I knew are fixed now! *yay*
But is it me, or some animations looks a bit faster now? Like trotting and flying.

And a random thought I had while watching the side-flying Surprise (//isn't she kind of an OC?) and upside down Derpy - can we have an option of the... rotation of sprite? Like, for making behaviors of diagonal flying with pony looking at 30° up without making different rotated .gif. Although, not sure if this will not look strange...

>>31453
Art updates huzaa!

>>31474
Reflections and 90 degree changes are easy, but you're right in that arbitrary rotations would look weird. Performance would also go down to somewhere between slow and glacial.

Some of the speeds will be faster because the graphics improvements. Whilst I'm thinking about it I think some of the gifs still have durations of 0ms on some frames, those need fixing really. (Big Celestia has a few, not sure what else)

>>31448
That works great. It'd be better if you could ditch the local palettes though. You've got a global palette with all the colours needed so the local palettes are just wasting space. I'll see about sending the files that would need fixing if that's possible.

Talking of local palettes, I didn't know about them either. They're kinda crazy since you could technically produce a full colour image with them.

As far as saving the pixels, yeah you could use a series of 5bbp codes to save indexes of up to 32. The compression (LZW) used in gifs, among other things, uses a common technique whereby you create variable length codes. Common indexes get shorter codes which means you save space. Rarely used indexes get long codes, but since they're rarer the space used is less.

Since there's no relation between the palette size and the size of the codes with this method, you can change the palette size without breaking everything.

>>31453
Nice. All of the previous bugs seem to be gone now. :)

Just some things that are left to do for the final version:

- Fix all interactions for "Vinyl Scratch" that still use her old "Strobing_Scratch" name.

- Recheck the tags for all ponies (examples: Spike being tagged as having alternate art while suitless Spitfire is not, Pipsqueak being tagged as both a filly and a stallion instead of a colt, Screwball being tagged as a non-pony, Colgate not being tagged at all and so on)

- Speaking of tags: untagged ponies are not shown in the right-click-submenu.

- Program icon shows a generic icon instead of Twilight (but at least that's not a big deal).

And if you could use the updated Twilight sprites, that would be great. :)

Sorry if this sounds so negative, but other than the things I mentioned, this is the best version yet. ;)

Also, thanks for the sprite of Mr. Cake. So, is somepony working on him? Or Mrs. Cake?

Uncle Orange and Davenport Pony were included or not?

>>31464
Was anypony able to finish that animation yet?

>>31476

Since each frame can have their own palette, I think if the total local palette is greater than 256, its not possible use just have a global palette. However, in this particular case, I don't think it happens.

Here's a link to all .gif images (regardless of their previous format) with their palettes fixed (the transparent colour is always in the palette and only global palette is used).

http://www.fileden.com/files/2011/8/21/3185731/dpgif/dpallgif.zip

Some of it is due to side effects of some functions so tell me if it didn't work.

> As far as saving the pixels, yeah you could use a series of 5bbp codes to save indexes of up to 32. The compression (LZW) used in gifs, among other things, uses a common technique whereby you create variable length codes.

But my question was whether you know if the pre-compression data does indeed use 5bbp (in .gif's specifications). Because of compression, this data only affects the size of the compressed output slightly so it would be possible to be "lazy" and always use 8 bits (8 bpp) in the uncompressed data. (I've only looked at the sample data from Wikipedia but the example there has a size 256 palette so I couldn't tell.)

>>31494
...? I missed updated Twilight sprites? Where!?

Thanks for the other items.

>>31502
I found Orange hiding in my "todo" folder. Not sure why I missed him.

I only found one still standing image of "Davenport" (I had to look him up on the wiki...).

>>31453

I have a glitch to report (I'm a bit late on noticing it but eh').

I don't know what causes it, but the ponies seem to occasionally go behind windows suddenly, even if I have the "Ponies are always on top of other windows" option checked. I also have the "Suspend ponies for full screen applications" unchecked, and the glitch described earlier seems more frequent when I exit out of full screen, or when dragging ponies around during full screen.

>>31526
Sorry, here they are again: http://www.filer.net/get/c73647a45aff379/file/Twilight-update.rar

Also, I noticed Twilight's left gala-sprite to be too big again. I know a fix was posted before, but eh, don't know in what post.

>>31531
Speculating here: but are the windows they disappear behind the sort of windows that might also decide they want to be top-most? Being top-most only gets you above the windows who didn't want to be top-most. Then all bets are off as to which top-most window actually gets to be top.

>>31523
Yeah those worked great. I was able to use as a reference set and I've since managed to fix the decoder so it reads those craftily encoded images fine anyway. So no need to worry about that any more.

I'm not sure what you mean about the pre-compressed data. If you mean the values passed to the encoder, I think they're always bytes. But even if they were secretly 4 bit values being bumped up to bytes, it shouldn't make any difference to the compressed result (at least, from what I understand of the spec).

Quite possible I've entirely misunderstood you, so sorry if I have.

>>31539
>>30379

Also found a few errors in the .ini files.
Colgate's has a few lines that need commenting out.
Photo Finish's behaviour "stalk_fluttershy" links to speech "Soundboard #4" which doesn't exist.
Rainbow Dash's behaviour "RonboDosh" links to speech "wut" which also doesn't exist.

>>31453
Hiya

It seems that if scaled, the effects are too high and sometimes white outlines appear around the characters. And it seems to have troubles with animation that consist of only one frame. Those still seem to appear larger

http://www.filer.net/get/625c436c72f8c4c/file/Mrs+Cake.rar

Cake!

Oh, another bug: when you have ponies on screen who interact with each other, then quit one of them, the remaining pony will still occassionally display the interaction behavior as if the other pony was still there.

>>31546

HELL YEAH!
10/10 animation and the little pose she strikes is just hhhnnggghhh.

Hey I redid my attempt at Sparkler and would like to know what you guys think.
http://www.mediafire.com/?xpjcap4xnd1t1uv

>>31573

Isn't that just a recolored Lyra animation?

>>31526

Trotting Davenport (and Spike) can be found here:

>>28963
>>28698

>>31577
And you would be right. for the trotting animation.

I'm having problems getting anther animation working for her
http://www.mediafire.com/?nb21bwa122cdiks
It only seems to half play and teleports her up and down?

>>31600
From a quick look at the ini file:

Make sure the behaviour lasts as long as the animation so it has time to play (change 3.19 to 26.5 in the ini).

The teleporting up/down might be the image centering. Try replacing both the co-ordinates at the far end with "52,52".

http://www.filer.net/get/4e702807ed2a2ed/file/Lily.rar

And here is Lily, completing the flower trio. Watch her trot around while pondering if the things she sees are worth panicking over.

V1.39 (non-test) is out:

http://www.mediafire.com/?0g7lac09436gcge

Changes since test version 4 (for a list of changes since the last non-test version, v1.38.1, please see the DesktopPony.com Change Log page):

-Still images are now the right size when using scaling.
-Mrs Cake by Bot-chan.
-Twilight image fixes by Bot-chan
-Spike and the door, by Anonycat
-Davenport (of Sofas and Quills) by Anonycat
-The menu icon is now the same as the exe icon.
-The program will no longer crash is an image file is missing.
-"Non Tagged" ponies appear in the add-pony menu.
-Performance of the Preview Pony window in the editor has been improved.
-While playing a mini-game, the scoreboard and goals were not being drawn. Fixed.

>>31629
Both Boxxy and Lily have some sort of image corruption that causes crashes on XP (same type as we've battled with previously) although I can't seem to fix it with any graphics program I have (even Paint Shop).

I haven't included them in the latest release due to this.

I hate to be a buzzkill, but there's no screensaver file included.

>>31652
Why must I always forget something?
You can just copy the exe and rename it to scr for now. I'll reupload a copy with that done. Thanks.

>>31637
I'm having a minor issue where the program itself starts up while giving me an error screen... No ponies show up whatsoever in the window and me not being well versed in coding have no clue how to fix this.

>>31656
Can you post the error?

>>31543

Very glad that you fixed the decoder. Yes, this answers my question exactly (that they are always bytes or bumped up to bytes since, for example, you could in theory just concate all the 4-bit values without padding before encoding).

>>31637

I can't find anything unusual about the Lily and Boxxy images. I've applied some generic convertion, but I'm not sure it will work (since I don't know what I'm supposed to fix).

http://www.filesavr.com/U9XYQI63P00X919

I actually didn't really undertand the end of the conversation about Windows XP image "corruptions" last time. Did Deathpwny's fix work? Did my fix (also) work? For the problem in version 1.37, how did you perform the fix? For reference:

> -A few ponies had bad images (Silver Spoon, Daisy, Blinky Pie) that were causing crashes with "Generic Error in GDI" for older machines (Windows XP specifically it seems). Those images have been corrected and no futher crashes or "red boxes" should appear. Hopefully.

>>31672
Usually the "fix" is just opening it and saving it again. Whatever you did to Lily fixed her.

The problem appears to be specific to the "lily-idle-right.gif" file this time, frame # 20 in particular. Although what, exactly, is wrong with it I can't say.

I imagine that there's probably nothing technically wrong with the image, except perhaps that Microsoft's GDI finds exception with some minor detail, and it's probably a bug that they patched in Vista and Win7.

Uh guys
http://dolphy.deviantart.com/journal/AlbinoMink-s-MLP-commissions-279365375
Some girl is making money out of trotting base.

>>31689
http://albinomink.deviantart.com/

This is the dumb girl's DA account.
Her excuse is that "she needs the money"

Of course, being the derpflank she is, she fails to realize she would make way much money if she got a proper job instead of running a piddly scam.

>>31690

How do you report a DA user instead of reporting just a single submission?
I want to report her scam and direct DA Mods to Desktop Ponies's homepage, but I don't know if that's enough to knock her down. (And she was charging $10 for a crappy trotter, but since nopony was biting, she cut it down to $5 instead.)

>>31691

Help Desk

http://help.deviantart.com/contact/

>>31637
Huh. There seems to be a weird bug with animation shop that sometimes randomly corrupts a single image of an animation (which can be uncorrupted by mirroring it). How... odd!

Well, I tried editting the affected files. Hope it works.

http://www.filer.net/get/fe354c9169b5613/file/Boxxy+Brown.rar

The same for Lily:

http://www.filer.net/get/e8a7232a55522c5/file/Lily.rar

And a small fix for Mrs. Cake (the files weren't corrupted, but I made a small mistake with the trotting animation that's fixed now.)

http://www.filer.net/get/fed43a8651f3c6a/file/Mrs+Cake.rar

>>31693

Ahh, danke.
Now I'm reporting her with the power of a thousand suns.

>>31687
>Usually the "fix" is just opening it and saving it again. Whatever you did to Lily fixed her.
What I did is essentially equivalent to this.

I'm linking to a version of Boxxy Brown modified in the same way (in case >>31694 doesn't already fix it).

http://www.filesavr.com/W76YXE8KNDLRIA6

I'd still like to figure out what difference in the .gif file causes the error with GDI.

>>31694

That's an odd behaviour from a program (probably a bug). Can you tell me how you managed to detect the corruption? The only difference I can find between the old and new version of lily-idle-right.gif are these:

- On frame 17, the delay is changed.

- The new version has a very large colour palette on frame 18. The transparent and background colours on frame 18 are also different.

Twilight is not amused by you trying to drag her around.

>>31689
>>31690
Im kind of torn on this. She's making people's OCs for them, then charging them for it which seems all fine and dandy. But, then she is using monkeyjay's base which he said is free to use as long as its not used commercially (ie:something you have to pay for). Yeah I think we need to let her know the base is not intended for that purpose. Its one of the main reasons I havent done any paid requests.

Oh with the new version I keep getting error reports with Pinkie and the Royal Night Guard. First the box shown up top pops up then after clicking ok it moves on to the second box then after clicking out of that the program closes. The top two are the boxes shown for Pinkie. The third box is the one shown for the Royal night Guard.

>>31713
wow just saw this. I sort of care, because it's making money partly off my work which is pretty much against the whole spirit of what desktop ponies is and why I made the tutorial in the first place: so people could make their own ones (and what she's doing is illegal!).

The fact that she's only getting $5 makes me feel a little better because unless it's taking her less than 10 minutes to do it that's a lot of effort for very little. But on the other hand some people are DOWN $5, that makes me feel kinda worse.

So.. I

So.. I (oops) don't really care enough to make anything of it.

>>31715
Yeah I feel a little bad for the people paying for this too especially since looking at her da page a couple of her friends are also doing commissions with your work.

Anyway I don't think you hear it enough, thank you for making that base tutorial and making it easy to get into spriting our favorite ponies.

>>31716
You should.
Soon other people will think it's okay, and more start to ask money for it.

>>31714
Wow, interesting. I had assumed that my XP machine would catch all the errors, but I guess there are more. What OS version are you running? Is it XP SP3? Do you have all your windows updates?

>>31710
To find the problems caused by these images, all you need to do is run the program on an XP machine. If the image used for the pony on the menu is affected (lily) you'll crash immediately with the very verbose error like in those screenshots, otherwise you will get the shorter error when trying to run the pony.

Ok so I have been sitting on these for too long. Ok here are the conga pony sprites if somepony wants to figure out how to get them to conga right. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35213087/Conga.zip
then there is Steven Magnet. I thought it would look good if you could have his back sections follow him so it'd look like more natural movement but if not I guess I can edit them into his animations. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35213087/Steven%20Magnet.zip

>>31722
Windows XP sp2 so obviously not all updated but all I was planning on updating it.

>>31722

I was hoping there was a way to tell without a Windows (XP) machine. There is surprisingly little (useful) information on this online. I'm not sure if this problem can be fixed from the programming side, but here are two links which might be worth looking at.

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1983223/a-generic-error-occurred-in-gdi-after-loading-a-picturebox-with-an-animated-g

http://www.andrewbarber.com/post/Something-More-Obscure-Than-it-Seems-it-Should-Be.aspx

>>31714

Could you try with the sprite files I posted earlier?

http://www.filesavr.com/W76YXE8KNDLRIA6

Just extract it to the base desktop ponies directory and let it overwrite everything it can overwrite.

GDI+ is just a parasprite with this error so it's impossible to diagnose. "A generic error occurred." is just worthless. All we know is that is chokes on the same frames of the same files, which points to something inside the decoder of GDI+ somewhere getting it wrong on XP.

Since it's hard to know the actual problem, by far the easiest fix is just to resave files in different programs until you get a version that doesn't die.

On the plus side, my decoder doesn't choke on these files, so once that's in place we can stop worrying about this particular problem. Plus if there is a bug it can be fixed as opposed to having to lamely appease GDI+ until it decides to work.

>>31729

How did I forget to mention your decoder? Having a decoder with source will of course make solving these problems much easier, not to mention the memory gains.

>>31710
Well, I detected it when I tried opening the file in MS Gif Animator and it would give me an error message (I don't have Windows XP).
I then opened the (uncorrupted) other direction of the animation in Animation Shop and mirrored it frame by frame, saving after each step until MS Gif Animator wouldn't load the file anymore. I then replaced the frame in the later program (hence the palette difference).

Still, even though the file didn't give me any errors anymore, I have no idea if it works for XP. :/

>>31726
Okay, so I tried working on the code for a conga line. It's actually more a "grab the pony in front by the tail" line, but IMHO it doesn't look half bad... if it actually works. Sometimes the timing is a little off and at times a pony doesn't want to participate, but it's the best I could do.




Interaction (might need a little more tweaking):
Conga,"Pinkie Pie",0.2,250,{"Applejack","Fluttershy","Rainbow Dash","Rarity","Twilight Sparkle"},True,{"Conga Start"},300

AJ:
Behavior,"Conga Start",0,5,5,10,"gallop_right.gif","gallop_left.gif",All,"Conga","","",True,0,12,"Pinkie Pie",True,,,"73,52","54,52"
Behavior,"Conga",0,30,30,1,"congaapplejack_right.gif","congaapplejack_left.gif",Diagonal_horizontal,"","","",True,10,4,"
twilight sparkle",False,stand,Conga,"92,88","70,88"

Fluttershy:
Behavior,"Conga Start",0,5,5,10,"trotcycle_fluttershy_right.gif","trotcycle_fluttershy_left.gif",Diagonal_horizontal,"Conga","","",True,
0,10,"Pinkie Pie",True,,,"53,53","51,53"
Behavior,"Conga",0,30,30,1,"congafluttershy_right.gif","congafluttershy_left.gif",Horizontal_Only,"","","",True,4,6,"rar
ity",False,stand,Conga,"96,88","70,88"

Pinkie:
Behavior,"Conga Start",0,5,5,0,"jumpy_pinkiepie_right.gif","jumpy_pinkiepie_left.gif",None,"Conga","","",True,0,0,"",False,bounce_n_n,ju
mpy,"53,89","53,89"
Behavior,"Conga",0,30,30,1,"congapinkiepie_right.gif","congapinkiepie_left.gif",Horizontal_Only,"","","",True,0,0,"",Tru
e,,,"94,88","70,88"

RD:
Behavior,"Conga Start",0,5,5,10,"flyzoom_rainbow_right.gif","flyzoom_rainbow_left.gif",Diagonal_horizontal,"Conga","","",True,0,18,"Pink
ie Pie",True,,,"64,57","39,58"
Behavior,"Conga",0,30,30,1,"congarainbowdash_right.gif","congarainbowdash_left.gif",Horizontal_Only,"","","",True,8,2,"a
pplejack",False,stand,Conga,"94,88","70,88"

Rarity:
Behavior,"Conga Start",0,5,5,10,"trotcycle_rarity_right.gif","trotcycle_rarity_left.gif",Diagonal_horizontal,"Conga","","",True,0,14,"Pi
nkie Pie",True,,,"55,61","47,61"
Behavior,"Conga",0,30,30,1,"congararity_right.gif","congararity_left.gif",Horizontal_Only,"","","",True,8,2,"rainbow dash",False,stand,Conga,"92,88","70,88"

Twilight:
Behavior,"Conga Start",0,5,5,10,"twilight_gallop_right.gif","twilight_gallop_left.gif",Diagonal_horizontal,"Conga","","",True,0,16,"Pink
ie Pie",True,,,"93,92","73,92"
Behavior,"Conga",0,30,30,1,"congatwilight_right.gif","congatwilight_left.gif",Horizontal_Only,"","","",True,10,8,"pinkie pie",False,stand,Conga,"96,88","70,88"

>>31726
Okay, so I tried working on the code for a conga line. It's actually more a "grab the pony in front by the tail" line, but IMHO it doesn't look half bad... if it actually works. Sometimes the timing is a little off and at times a pony doesn't want to participate, but it's the best I could do.




Interaction (might need a little more tweaking):
Conga,"Pinkie Pie",0.2,250,{"Applejack","Fluttershy","Rainbow Dash","Rarity","Twilight Sparkle"},True,{"Conga Start"},300

AJ:
Behavior,"Conga Start",0,5,5,10,"gallop_right.gif","gallop_left.gif",All,"Conga","","",True,0,12,"Pinkie Pie",True,,,"73,52","54,52"
Behavior,"Conga",0,30,30,1,"congaapplejack_right.gif","congaapplejack_left.gif",Diagonal_horizontal,"","","",True,10,4,"
twilight sparkle",False,stand,Conga,"92,88","70,88"

Fluttershy:
Behavior,"Conga Start",0,5,5,10,"trotcycle_fluttershy_right.gif","trotcycle_fluttershy_left.gif",Diagonal_horizontal,"Conga","","",True,
0,10,"Pinkie Pie",True,,,"53,53","51,53"
Behavior,"Conga",0,30,30,1,"congafluttershy_right.gif","congafluttershy_left.gif",Horizontal_Only,"","","",True,4,6,"rar
ity",False,stand,Conga,"96,88","70,88"

Pinkie:
Behavior,"Conga Start",0,5,5,0,"jumpy_pinkiepie_right.gif","jumpy_pinkiepie_left.gif",None,"Conga","","",True,0,0,"",False,bounce_n_n,ju
mpy,"53,89","53,89"
Behavior,"Conga",0,30,30,1,"congapinkiepie_right.gif","congapinkiepie_left.gif",Horizontal_Only,"","","",True,0,0,"",Tru
e,,,"94,88","70,88"

RD:
Behavior,"Conga Start",0,5,5,10,"flyzoom_rainbow_right.gif","flyzoom_rainbow_left.gif",Diagonal_horizontal,"Conga","","",True,0,18,"Pink
ie Pie",True,,,"64,57","39,58"
Behavior,"Conga",0,30,30,1,"congarainbowdash_right.gif","congarainbowdash_left.gif",Horizontal_Only,"","","",True,8,2,"a
pplejack",False,stand,Conga,"94,88","70,88"

Rarity:
Behavior,"Conga Start",0,5,5,10,"trotcycle_rarity_right.gif","trotcycle_rarity_left.gif",Diagonal_horizontal,"Conga","","",True,0,14,"Pi
nkie Pie",True,,,"55,61","47,61"
Behavior,"Conga",0,30,30,1,"congararity_right.gif","congararity_left.gif",Horizontal_Only,"","","",True,8,2,"rainbow dash",False,stand,Conga,"92,88","70,88"

Twilight:
Behavior,"Conga Start",0,5,5,10,"twilight_gallop_right.gif","twilight_gallop_left.gif",Diagonal_horizontal,"Conga","","",True,0,16,"Pink
ie Pie",True,,,"93,92","73,92"
Behavior,"Conga",0,30,30,1,"congatwilight_right.gif","congatwilight_left.gif",Horizontal_Only,"","","",True,10,8,"pinkie pie",False,stand,Conga,"96,88","70,88"

Somepony should make the art for Chief Thunderhooves. Im a brony at CU and would love to have a buff running around with the ponies!

>>31753

People has said like a million times that this is not a request thread and that if you want something you should try doing it all by yourself first.

>>31716
http://dolphy.deviantart.com/journal/AlbinoMink-s-MLP-commissions-279365375

Have read the newest comment?

*LingLiJing 6 hours ago
I've just linked her a site that hosts competitions that have a 4-digit-prize money in euros. Hopefully it can subdue the negative attention concerning the use of trotting bases here Wish her well

>>31776

She's hidding all the posts calling her out on her BS and greed, so it's obvious that she doesn't cares and is just interested into making some quick and easy money at Desktop Ponies's expense.

Typical DA trash.

http://generaldurandal.deviantart.com

Is this person stealing (and crudely editing) your royal guards animations as well?
Judging for the dumb things he says, this guy is quite the piece of work.

http://medli96.deviantart.com/

Another piece of wortk that is making a profit of your templates by collecting them all and redistributing them as her own. (And let's not start talking of her gallery, full of gaudy recolors that she passes as her own OC, don't steal)

Also, wow. What they say it's true.
The I.Q of a Deviantart user is inversely proportional to the amount of flashy stuff it crams on her DA profile.

>>31781
No, she made them herself. She even made this for me.

>>31742
thank you. That actually worked fairly well.

>>31780
This guy just looks like he tried making his own with the pony base. They look different enough that I think he's never even seen the original ones. Plus I didnt see anywhere he is taking commisions so he seems fine.

>>31779
Thats alot of hidden remarks. Did she ever reply to any of them?

>>31781
Ive seen this da account before. Thats the incomplete trot base that ponyluver used. The person credits monkeyjay. Also it looks like they've stopped doing commisions.

It seems like you are trying to start a witchhunt with these. Yeah most of the ones posted are doing something bad but I think you need to make sure first. Id hate for those who are not doing anything really wrong getting attacked because they tried making a desktop pony of their own.

>>31785
> Id hate for those who are not doing anything really wrong getting attacked because they tried making a desktop pony of their own.

You know that practically all of their "own" Desktop Ponies are just recolored animations with pieces taken from other people's animations, then passed as their "100% original OC, give credit or DIE?"

The gaudy colorshemes taken from MS-Paint color picker tool is what really sells the deal of fail and attention seeking as well. :P

>>31786
If you'd like to help the world out a little, just link any sort of comment on DA about making the pony base to the desktopponies site and download link. My old guide is still linked there and it may mean somepony gives it a go and accomplishes something, also it subtly implies that what she is doing is available to everypony and probably not worth $5.

>>31786
I was talking more about that generaldurandal since it looks like he tried doing his own work. But while we are talking about it, there are always going to be people trying to make OCs with minimal effort, like that flash pony creator, then not wanting 'their' work taken. I just dont think we should get a reputation of attacking everypony in sight who does this. If they try to get money or outright steal one of our cannon ponies then ok but I want this project to be known for the joy it brings others not the griefing of OC makers.

>>31793

The problem is that practically - no one- has shown even a fraction of the dedication that you and your buddies keep showing here, and they limit themselves to recolor other people's work so they could have something, -anything- to show for themselves, in the shortest time and with the smallest effort possible.

You guys have been incredibly humble and awesome, yet the average DA moron always romps around yelling on top of it's lungs to get attention and the highest praise possible, while abusing the system as much as they could to keep their stupidity and theft hidden the longest time possible. And in the examples linked before, all I could see where noting but pathetic recolors with some heads, wings and AJ's hat pasted and recycled over and over and over.

That's not making an OC, that's just being a moron desperate for some attention at a fad's expenses.

Monkeyjay, if you had a cent for every little moron who bastardizes your work to present it as their own, I bet you could solve the country's economic crisis and still have change after that.

is this the right place to post this?i just downloaded the version 1.39. i was in the pony editor and clicked
Granny Smith and this appeared.. also, i can't reach the save button of the options.

Got weird issue with two copies of DP launched the same time, and some graphic glitches on my friend's XP machine, both on picrelated.
+ his Carrot Top is "spasmodically" moves from left to right while animating. She also sometimes walks out of the screen, and gets stucked when reaches the screen's bottom.
Checked those on my XP laptop - the same troubles.

http://albinomink.deviantart.com/journal/#/d4mm24u

The chick who was caught trying to sell stolen animations is abandoning her account and move to a new, secret one to escape from responsability and continue her theft.

She's playing the victim card, and I can't say I'm surprised.

Hi people, long time no see you all.
I noticed this girl charging for making ponies, so I lurked around and I found out her new DA account:
http://alienmink.deviantart.com/

... she is still trying to make some easy money out of monkeyjay's templates. -_-U

On a different note, I will try to start making new animations, because honestly, November and December were terrible months and I neither had the time or will for ponies back then.

Eh, I edited this letter sprite from an old cellphone game to give Twilight something to read.
And to give me something different to think so I could forget about the DA drama I'm receiving right now. (See, this is why normally I neither talk or try to reason with drama queens bleh.)

>>31964

I could come up with animation ideas and improvements for somepony to work on. (I cant sprite, or I would myself.)

I think I will make some Spike animations until I recover my Mojo.

>>31968

No offense, but if you can't sprite then your help will make more harm than good.

Practice your skills, and try to submit your own material instead. Who knows, perhaps you have some raw talent just waiting to get polished?

>>31971
good to see you back. Yeah albinomink seems pretty dense. She just doesnt get that free to use and modify does not equal free to sell.

Anyway good job on spike. You'll get your mojo back soon enough.

>>31968
I wouldnt mind hearing a few rarity animation ideas. I have 2 or so in mind I want to get to eventually but she needs more animations and Im having trouble coming up with good ideas for her.

Speaking of Rarity, didnt she have a sleep animation? In the previous thread I remember her wearing her sleep mask. Did it just not get put in?

>>31976

You should see all the drama and menaces she has been yelling at me since I tried to reason with her. According to her, she is special because her house was on fire and because her mommy doesn't understand her and is mean to her.

Well, I survived a 9.0 quake (followed by a mega tsunami) plus 2 uninterrumpted years of strong aftershocks. In fact, just yesterday we had a 6.1 seismic move and another tsunami alert.

So according to her logic, that should make me the king of the planet or something. (Bow before me, plebs. Wha ha haaa!)

But again, that's Deviantart for you.

>>31971

Heh. None taken. If I can find some time, I might try too sometime.
I know what you mean about the drama, I have been watching this project since right after it started. I know what you mean by the drama. Your advice on not offering ideas makes perfect sense in the context, and I won't randomly spout things. (MAKE THIS MAKE THAT, I'M ENTITLED TO YOUR HARD WORK BECAUSE I'M BREATHING)

Like I've said before, I'm here for emotional support. Woohoo!

>>31976
Rarity could use a few more "activity" animations. Kind of like what Pinkie has. (Random flower sniff, stuff like that.) There was also talk before about making walking animations for each pony. I think Dash and Pinkie have one. I could be more specific, but don't want to change the topic to requests.

>>31976
I remember seeing that now that you mention it... ah, found it.

I think I held off on using it because the file name was something like "rarity_sleep_wip", and there was some discussion about it going on.

>>31835
This is the right place! Thanks, I'll take a look at that.

>>31945
I have a feeling that running two copies on XP is just asking for trouble with the new version. The transparency that makes everything work is really just a trick - not sure that it works two layers deep. Although it seems to be working in that first image before you alt-tab. Hmm.

Can I ask why you want to run two copies? To keep different ponies from crossing between the screens perhaps?

Well, some people said that Spike was a bit too fat and they were right.
So I made him run a few miles and now he's thinner than before.

>>31976

Hm... How about Rarity "in the zone" picking ribbons? Or Rarity's detecting gems? For something funny, maybe Rarity putting her head in a garbage can or drinking and spitting punch?

Admittedly, I have a vested interest in the first one.

More difficult would be Rarity using a sewing machine. Or Rarity drinking tea (maybe as an interaction with Opal).

I'm mostly thinking out loud here.

>>31983
I was running two copies on Windows7; my friend has these gray-tabs glitches with one copy on XP, so do I.

I launched the second copy after a short dialog,
-oh noes, thoes glitches with CT animations again(
-what now?
-spasmodically flinches while animating
-*launches the second copy of DP.exe* OK, lets see what is all this whining about...
so, usually I don't need two DP.exe launched at the same time)
But in fact, having two copies of programm launched, with possibility quickly change one "layout" of the ponies to another, - sounds kinda interesting for me.
//in the old versions, when every pony had her own window, 2+ copies of programm worked normally

>>31986

You read my mind.

Hello guys, I managed to start doing this while I was at work because it's a slow day here meh.

It's... difficult to keep Spike at a reasonable scale and still stuff all of his details and proportions, so I'm all ears for corrections.

Looks good. One thing that bugs me is his neck area. I think it's a little thick and it's hunching up his shoulders. I know you don't have many pixels to work with in there though haha. Maybe move the arm down 1 and make the neck slightly thinner somehow? He seems to have gained weight from his 3/4ths view you posted above (which has great proportions)!

Regarding the overlay errors when running multiple instances: also confirmed on Vista so that completes the set. My initial thought is that it appears to be VB's somewhat automagical handling of forms, because the C# version is not affected and works as one would expect.

Workarounds:
-If a pony window has focus the other will vanish. So give any non-pony window focus and both will reappear.
-Don't run multiple instances (yeah ok not that most useful of advice).

The grey tabs seems to be an XP issue. I ruled out lack of desktop composition as the cause but that's it. I got nothin'.

If the multiple instances thing was just makeshift grouping, maybe a feature could be added to do that in a less clunky way.

>>32028

Hmm, yes I can see what you mean about his neck and arms.
Better now?

I made left and right fly animations
for RD
Beep beep!

>>32036
I had a play! This was more what I was thinking. Unchubbying him a bit.

>>32056
Oops, my edits are the two on the right.

>>32043
While it's cute, the static wings look odd to me.

>>32056
Hmm, yes, that opens new possibilities, thanks for the help.

>>32043

The cloud would look better if it respected the style used on FiM.
Right now, looks like you just pasted wings, eyes and a tail on a Photoshop premade shape, and then called it a day.

I mustache a question: Is this good enough?

>>32103
I think he should blink, and maybe you should add a bit more movement to the moustache and hand.

>>32103
Bitch, please