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108009 No. 108009
I am sure there are other places like this...but oh well. Anypony can post their art in this thread for criticism and feed back.
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>> No. 108019
>I am sure there are other places like this...but oh well.
There is, but nopony ever uses it. Artists who want feedback usually post in their own threads and say so.

...Which is why I end up juggling conversations in twelve different places at once and loosing track of stuff I was going to redline.
>> No. 108048
>>108019
Oh really? Well, I just thought I'd give it a try. If nothing happens, then well....I am ok with that.
>> No. 108052
Bah! I've tried all my attention span to get this pic uploaded, but my connection is still getting lost.

Link to Picture instead: http://skork-the-dork.deviantart.com/art/Pony-with-a-Cig-306855349

Pony with a Cig. Integra Hellsing was my favorite character from Hellsing, so I loosely thought about her while making this.

I don't see many ponies with cigarettes...just alcohol....

I know I bucked up on the front left leg. I need to review those references, being that the front two usually get me.
>> No. 108071
>>108052
O nice. I've seen Celestia a couple times with a cig, but other then that, I really haven't seen anything of the sort. I like the hat
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>>108071
Thanks!
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>>108105

Vector/Sketch comparison GIF.
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Suppose i'll throw up two or three of my latest endeavors for critique. Celestia knows i'm not going to start my own thread, at the level i'm at, i wouldn't feel right about it. I've only been drawing for a very short time now, so nothing i've drawn i've felt is post-worthy, but it would probably behoove me to get somepony elses perspective.

So i guess we'll start with random colt #5126, he's having a hard time channeling a spell, or something...
>> No. 108108
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Lemme see here... Right, before that was some good ol Pinkie Pie. Hair shadows are hard...
>> No. 108110
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And last and perhaps least. My OC. Most of my inspiration for drawing has come from pony ask blogs. I suppose it's because even those without god-tier drawing skills are able to succeed because they use their art to tell an ongoing story and build a character with soul emotion, which makes the whole thing so much more than it could have been if they had just posted an image on an art forum. At least, that's the effect it has on me.
Edit: whoops, forgot the pic.
>> No. 108121
>>108105> >108106
They both look great, I don't see anything wrong. But careful with flashing lights, they aren't that good for the eyes when they flash like that.

>>108107
Seems fine to me, but you should try to get your lines to connect, like the chest to the leg is where I am noticing it doesn't
>>108108
For this one, I don't really do shading so I can't help you there.
>>108110
For your last one here, it looks a little funny to me. I don't know how I can give you good feedback for this one.
>> No. 108123
>...but it would probably behoove me to get somepony elses perspective.
You know, it's not like there's a minimum standard for quality. By all means, start a thread.

I'm working on comments on the stuff posted here thus far... I do apologize, these things take a little while.
>> No. 108124
By the way, the Chrysalis picture I used to start this thread, I did actually make it myself.
>> No. 108126
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So... Saw this thread up, haven't been here in about a week. Need some feed back on how this pic is going so far. I can't seem to figure out how I'm doing the legs over here... Any tips or advice?
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>>108126
>> No. 108134
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108134
Critique this right now.

Tell me how bad it is and what I should fix.
Because scenery is hard but a very important part for good art.
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And I need pointers for this.

There is going to be a horse on that grassy ledge, but I'll add that in later.
The ceiling seems pretty off, and so does the hole in the ceiling. How would I go about fixing that?

And you can probably tell this is a very rough concept sketch.
>> No. 108137
>>108107
For the sake of parody, I think he looks like he's taking a crap standing up. Along with one of his hind hooves being...well, gone. I'd recommend the old-fashioned circle-and-foundation geometrical lines like traditional artists use for posing, especially those non-neutral, 'exotic' poses like what I see, here.

TL;DR: The pose is sexual and it gives me dirty thoughts.

>>108108
I like this one, though Pinkie's hair is rather..Deflated, needs to be more poofy.
For shadowing, hair isn't an entire solid object, like a limb or an entire torso. It's comprised of, you guessed it, tiny bits of solid objects that shine and gleam the direction art reflecs off of it, much like any other light source.

For the hair, you would give it a slighter shadow than what you'd give for a solid object. The hair is closer together when at the scalp, so it's more or less a darker shade of haircolour.

BLAH BLAH BLAH ART SCHOOL JARGON YOU PROBABLY DON'T UNDERSTAND AN OUNCE OF.

TL;DR: Don't shade the hair like you do the rest of the body.

>>108110

I always think of Green-skinned ponies to have an Irish accent, for some reason. That being said, I thought of your OC shouting "OUTTA' ME WAY, THEY'RE AFTER ME FRIENDSHIP CHARMS!".

..And now I remember why my mom wants me on Ritalin.
>> No. 108139
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>>108137
I like you.
You're funny.

Constructive criticism is fun, so why the hell not.
And because I might as well do something while I wait for my shit artwork to get blasted.

>>108107
>>108108
>>108110
Your style reminds me a bit of verzi's. I don't like his style.
Their faces are at the same angle. Why?
The anatomy is pretty off, for instance the Irish OC's leg is rather fat, his neck looks awkward, etc. I recommend using references from the show to get used to the anatomy before perusing your own style.
The characters look very flat. They appear to have no depth.
Just keep practicing, you'll get the hang of it.

So what program do you use?
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108140
I lack art I can post here, but i'd be glad to give feedback ^.^
So i will simply slap random pony images in :D
>> No. 108141
>>108128
I think the legs are fine, but one leg seems a little off, its that one in the back....it'll be her back/right leg. The hoof seems too straight is all.
>> No. 108142
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>>108126
>>108128


>>108137
>>108139
>>108140

SHOW TRIXIE NO AMOUNT OF MERCY!

>>108141
*Gnaws on her hooves at the thought of that back leg, she doesn't seem to know how execute it properly*
>> No. 108143
>>108139
Ha, yeah, I thought he was pretty funny too.
>>108134
Not much to say about this, I don't see anything, and I like how you did the ball here.
>>108136
Is that a hole in the ceiling of the cave with the sun shining through?
>> No. 108147
>>108137
XD I appreciate your honesty. I know i have a lot to improve. I wasn't entirely expecting it, but i'm glad you pointed out some things that i didn't notice. Thanks for the critique and the laugh.
>> No. 108148
>>108139
>Implying i have a style.
Heh, well, i suppose every artist has a style, regardless of how new they are. What i'm doing so far is a botched amalgamation of a few artists i watch on tumblr, along with random shots from the show. I do need to work on different perspectives, with faces especially so.

I've been using GIMP, though since i've started, it seems like absolutely everypony uses SAI. I thought it weird, because when i started, my research into drawing tools consisted of 5 minutes of googling, and i never found anything about SAI.
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>>108143
Yes indeedy dandy.

And I see plenty wrong with this >>108134
I'm just not sure how to fix it.
The clouds don't feel like part of the background, and the ball+shadow don't seem to go well with the ground, like, just look at the shadow. Just LOOK AT IT. I'm disappointed in it.

Hey look, I just critiqued my own work. Huh.

>>108142
It's kinda hard to judge things that are still under progress, but the rope looks a bit too thick, and um... That's all I got. Sorry darling.
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>>108148
Well SAI is a great program, something I use quite a lot. I've never drawn with GIMP, I've only ever used it to make icons.
And if you can't find it on, maybe try searching Easy Paint Tool SAI.
I think you have to buy it, although *coughtorrentscough*
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>>108149
it's fine~ I'll keep working on it then... Hope I can figure this out.
>> No. 108162
Hey, wow... other people are doing critique, for once. I can finally slack off take a break without feeling guilty. Yay!
>Runs off to draw.
>> No. 108173
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Another one!

This had to be compressed down. Full res link : http://skork-the-dork.deviantart.com/art/SaMaisy-305625289

This one is part of a series I did for my siblings. Drew them each as a different video game character. This one is my little sis as Samus. I changed the suit colors to her favorite colors. She liked it.

Yeah, the thigh on the left leg is too long. Legs always seem to get me....

Alright, not exactly pony related, but I would like some tips. I tried all my might to texture and shade the metal on the suit to look...well...metallic. Finished it at 3 am a while ago, so I was momentarily too lazy to actually look up a tutorial. Other than metal texturing and her leg, any other bits of advice.
>> No. 108186
>>108173
The trick to shiny metallic surfaces is the majority of the surface is fairly dark, and the highlights are small and bright.

Samus' arm cannon covers her forearm. Having it stick out from the wrist looks cumbersome and unbalanced.

The hand could use shaping up... but then, hands are always a pain.
>> No. 108190
>>108108
>Critique:
A few notes on proportions. If you aren't worried about show accuracy, feel free to disregard some or all of this.

-A pony is twice as long, from nose to flank, as the width of their head.
-Enlarged the eye.
-The bridge of the nose usually covers over part of the far eye when the head is turned.
-The neck comes down and out at an angle, no s-curve. This puts a little room between the front leg and the front of the torso. Even if you aren't worried about show accuracy, I find that s-curved necks look awkward.
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Whoop, forgot to attach.
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>>108110
>Critique:
The body is huge. The body of a FiM-style pony is 1.5 times as long as the head... I redlined a body that's not quite 2 heads long, and it's already way smaller.

Hind legs... are a pain. Period. I sketched a quick suggestion, hope it helps.

Not redlined: The nose is very long, even for a colt.
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>>108126
>Critique
This is an awesome looking shot, the perspective is great.

I moved back the foreleg: it looked like she was missing a neck.

Made a suggestion for the hind leg... which are always a pain. Img Ref is your best friend. When I draw the leg in a pose like this, I imagine the line of the flank continuing straight through as the forward edge of the lower leg (Blue line.)

Anyway, hope this helps, and ten thousand apologies for taking so long to get around to redlining this.
>> No. 108201
>>108134
Well, as far as scenery goes? It looks okay.

>>108136
The hole looks fine to me.

>>108137
>BLAH BLAH BLAH ART SCHOOL JARGON YOU PROBABLY DON'T UNDERSTAND AN OUNCE OF.
I went to art school, I have an extensive vocabulary of artistic jargon, and I still can't make sense of what you're saying. Well, maybe half of it. :3

>And now I remember why my mom wants me on Ritalin.
It's good stuff, isn't it? I couldn't get by without it.
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>>108197
>>108201
Been getting a lot of flack about those legs... I'll definitely do something a bit different with them and really it's no trouble. You're the one taking time out of your day to come and critique my newby work, you may take as long as you please to getting around to it, everything helps and it's all appreciated more than you could possibly know!
>> No. 108211
>...It's all appreciated more than you could possibly know!
Well, I know now! :3 You're quite welcome.
>> No. 108213
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>>108211
Hey, been meaning to ask... Do you have a Deviant Art?
>> No. 108215
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108215
So, i tried to do this quickly last night, and I only used the paintbrush and free select while doing this. I wasn't trying to make it all neat like my others, so I don't want to hear about the lines. Any feed back about how things look though?

>>108213
I sure do! http://darkestdragonking.deviantart.com/ [won't paste the link again since it'll always be here now.]
>> No. 108217
>>108215
Heh, i was so tired when I finished this at like 2AM last night that I didn't notice the grey on the bottom of the armored hooves. This is because I did the basic body first and just went over it heh
>> No. 108218
>>108213
Yes... I never use it for anything at all, ever. I hate the page layout and graphic design, and the site is too buckin' slow.

The only time I ever go there is if I'm browsing some other site, like ponychan, and somepony links to their work on DA. The only reason I have an account so that the site will stop pestering me about age confirmation.

As far as being an art community, I find DA pretty useless. It's great if you want your work to reach an audience... if you want to hold a conversation with another artist about artwork? Not so much.

Though, the place does have an awful lot of useful tutorials... especially Cedarseed's Majnouna's... so I guess it has that going for it.
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>>108218
It's times like this I consider starting up a Tumblr.
>> No. 108220
>>108218
I talk about art there pretty often
>> No. 108221
>>108218
Forgot to mention, I can't even find my way around tumblr and stuff, and to me, i only go there from links like you do for DA, i just can't figure that place out-DA is simple for me
>> No. 108226
>>108215
You're one of very few, then.

>>108221
Tumblr is a bastard child between DA and a blog. Or possibly twitter.

The main difference, I find, is that DA is more social, while tumblr is more individual. DA handles networking and interaction better, but the site also takes up a lot more screen space with DA stuff. When somepony sees your DA account, they're looking at a DA page that just happens to have your name and work.

Tumblr has much fewer networking features, but it's your page... tumblr just hosts it. It's built to present your work to an audience, and the social features (note, ask, submit, and reblog) are mostly there to let you interact with them.

For the most part, I find DA better for communities, and tumblr better if you have close circle of people you interact with.
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>>108215
Like i already said~
It looks fantastic! Sure better than anything i could do~ xDD
>> No. 108228
>>108227
Envy is not a compliment. It effectively says that the artist made you feel bad about yourself because they're so good, which isn't really an uplifting thing to hear.
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>>108228
I did not say i envied Kings' work. I just speak the truth, because i honestly can't draw. Pretty much anything here is better than what i could do. -shrug-
And plus i'm friends with him, so yeah .3.
>> No. 108230
>>108229
they don't know me by any DA name, so DDK, King, dark, whatever else you come with, they might not think that is me because they don't know me on DA
>> No. 108234
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Anyways....
How is everypony today? :D
> Mine Countenance Whereupon Cant remember how to do the !2dsrEWD thing at the end of my name.
Tripcodes or something like that
>> No. 108237
>>108234
I'm good, how are you?

>Tripcodes or something like that.
After your name, add # and some characters.
eg: WhiteFox#numbersandletters
>> No. 108242
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Ummmm, so I bought my first charcoal pencil today and though, "I think I'll do this 'shading' thing I've heard so much about."

Then this happened... I used up half my brand shiny new $3 pencil...

Could somepony please critique this?

Is the night sky scribbled to hard?

Should I make the moon grey (He's standing on the moon BTW)?

Anything wrong body structure wise?

Should he be shaded lighter/darker/more smoothly?

Would it look nicer if I shopped in the real Earth in place of the doodly one?

WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WE'M DOING! HELP!

Thanks.
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>>108242
What hardness is the charcoal? A softer charcoal will have better coverage, so a 6B or 8B should cover most of a page without having to go through half a pencil.

The moon has very harsh lighting, since it has no atmosphere. I wouldn't shade the surface much. Shadows are strong, though... chiaroscuro to the nines.

If he has his head tilted back the way I think he does, the ears should probably be much further back.

Made the neck a little thicker.

Shifted the positioning of the feet back a little. Ponies tend to stand like they're leaning forward a bit.

...I added a little diagram for how I think of the leg when I draw it.

tweaked the forward edge of the hind leg so that it's one long arc, rather than a curved thigh with a straight lower leg.Rear legs are always a pain, and they change a lot depending on pose. They often look like a curved thigh with a straight lower leg, just not when the pony is simply standing.

Anyway, hope this helps some. Looking forward to more of this, charcoal can be real fun stuff. :3
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>>108242
I love the emotion of this, it's very quiet and pensive. There were a few things I noticed though and thought I'd share them with you, in addition to WhiteFox's comments (which all hold true.)

>(Mark 1) The direct the head is pointed and the way the muzzle is constructed makes his head look like its looking off to the right and the muzzle looks crooked.
The twisting on his muzzle seems to come from the nose-to-jaw line is drawn. I've included reference line and head box to show approximately how his head would be pointed in order to get it to be pointing at the center of the planet and I've also included a reference box for the muzzle, in it's corrected position.

>(Mark 2) The shadows seem to be inconsistent with each other, or imply multiple sources.
On the moon the sun is the only significant light source. As such, the shadows should extremely harsh (per WhiteFox's comment.) The position of your pony's ground shadow suggests that the sun is almost right behind the planet (a little low and to the right really,) but the shadows on the head and legs suggest a position much more to the right.

An interesting point: the result of your current light placement for the ground shadow would be that almost all of the objects we can currently see would be completely in shadow from our perspective, including the side of the planet that we can see. (See the reference on the right.) The charcoal medium you've chosen here would lend itself well to rendering this quite dramatically.

>(Mark 3) The cutie mark is too far up and back, giving it the appearance of being on the pony's butt, rather than on the flank.

Overall for your first outing in charcoal I'd say you did an excellent job with your choice of subject matter, and with some refinement of your shading this has the potential to be a stunning piece. I look forward to more of your work.
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That filename gets me every time.
Even if it was only once, just now. Still hilarious.

Oh yeah, and hooray for concept art and not actually putting effort or time into things!
>> No. 108266
>>108264
I think you were closer the first time, at least size wise, on the foreleg. Keep the pose, make it a little bigger. Though, just my opinion.
>> No. 108267
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Dicking around with the pen tool.
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>>108266
lol what "first time" are you talkin' aboot?

>And I just colored this thing. It used to have a person in it but I made it better.
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108269
Ran this by the ATG guys a few times but we kinda stalled out on trying to refine this. Anypony here have some comments on what to work on here?
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>>108267

Fixed the eyes and some other stuff a bit.
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>>108269
>anthro
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.
.
okay.

The blur tool is used way too damn much.
Dem lips is scurry gurrrl.
And yeah, well, anthro.
>> No. 108274
>>108269
Lips on an anthro always push things into the Uncanny Valley. I have never seen an example that worked well, in over a decade of frequenting FA.

The lipstick is is the same colour as her hair... that's a cute little touch.

The dimple formed by the smile seems quite large, and it minimizes the shape of her cheek.

It seems incongruous that the brightest area of her face would be just below her eye. If the light is coming from stage left, I imagine her nose would be lit just as much, if not more. I also wonder if there should be more mid-tone on her shoulder.

I'm mixed about the blurring. On the one hand, the sharpness of her eyes compared to the softness of the rest of the image is a wonderful, dreamlike effect. It gives it a strong central focus, too. On the other hand, It is really blurry. The hair and the tree in the background give me a little bit of that out-of-focus-hurts-to-look-at sensation.

This might be more of an aesthetic point, but the corner of her eye could come down quite a bit. In humans and animals, the inside corner of the eye tends to be far below the centre of the eye. Same goes for FiM style ponies. It would probably improve the shape of the bridge of the nose, too.

I really don't know where the forward facing nostrils come from. Horses don't have them, humans don't have them, and FiM ponies don't have them. I could redline a suggestion, if you like.

The shading on the nose is a sticky point. Realistic noses are rounded, but FiM-pony noses are pointy, and the realistic shading on an unrealistic nose drops things into the uncanny valley. it might help to round out the front a bit, giving it a little more of a cylindrical shape

Anyway... hope some of this helps. Combining realistic rendering and anatomy with a highly stylized character is never an easy thing, but this is one fine looking piece of work regardless. Good luck with it!
>> No. 108275
>>108274
You sure are good at giving feedback.
>> No. 108276
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>>108270
>Redline
Just some tweaks to the hooves.

For the hind legs, ponies hooves face outward if they've been suprised, shocked, etc, or if they've just crashed to the ground. If they've relaxed, the hooves tend to settle on the ground... it looks really wonky in the show (exempli gratia: http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/File:Twilight_with_the_Elements_of_Harmony_S2E02.png). In this case, the lines could be removed (hence, the x'ed out lines) and they would look fine.

Anyway. This is looking pretty sharp, good luck with it. Looking forward to the final version. :3
>> No. 108277
>>108276
I agree with what you did there, that would make it look quite a bit better. Perhaps take a look a quick sketch I myself made of one I am going to be doing? I couldn't send the file, so here is the link http://darkestdragonking.deviantart.com/#/d527hgj
Remember its a quick sketch and will be made neater, but how are things?
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>>108274
Helpful as always WhiteFox.

>Rounding the Shading on the Nose / Cylinder Nose.
I tried this in a previous work, the most common comment I got as a result was that they couldn't tell if it was Pinkie Pie or Mrs. Piggy until I squared it up. (For reference see http://sta.sh/0onedzlbtno and http://fav.me/d51070c) regardless, it sounds like I still need to iterate on nose shape. I'll play with it.

>Bright Light on the Eye Socket
This is going to be a visual artifact, turns out the nose's far left edge is actually the brightest tone in the whole image. Regardless, I'll look at lessening the local contrast. (For reference, there's two light sources, one forward, left high, and a second light source forward left low 1 EV lower; a lighting configuration I use regularly in photography.)

>Blurring
The blurring in the foreground is intended to directly simulate depth-of-field. That said my simulation really broke down with the background. I'll need to work on that.

>Nostrils
In retrospect the front facing nostrils are definitely anatomically wrong. If you find yourself without something to do on some rainy day I'd love that red line, but with our without it I'll experiment.

>Lipstick
I'm glad you noticed. :) I wanted to stay within Twilight's color palette and she already has a nice set of accent colors so I picked the most lipstick compatible one.

>Eye Shape
*Checks some of his photos* So I see. I'll play with this. (Knowing that Rarity is kind of a funny exception.)

>>108274
>Awesome feedback
Indeed he does. I really appreciate it!
>> No. 108306
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108306
>(Knowing that Rarity is kind of a funny exception.)
Twilight and Rarity have the same eye shape. :3

>>Awesome feedback
>Indeed he does. I really appreciate it!
You're quite welcome!

I've spent a lot of time and effort improving my critiques (not no never "constructive criticism"), been working at it for nearly a decade now... I've picked up a few tricks in that time.

Since this is a thread for critique, I might as well share a few of them:
-Detail, clarity, and description (See attached pic. Old art, yay!).
-I avoid making judgements, and stick to observations. Let's say I made a comment like, "Pinky Pie looks terrible, she's way too pink," for example. Well, she's supposed to be pink. If I said, "Wow, Pinkie Pie is, like, extremely pink." It's left to the artist to decide if that's a good thing or a bad thing, whether or not to change it. By the same logic, I avoid using the words good, bad, right, and wrong. These are easy enough to get rid of by using more descriptive words.
-Good critique helps the artist do what they want to do, rather than tell an artist what I want them to do. This is why I avoid using should and shouldn't. I rephrase things as an if-then sort of statement: if you put lips on a furry, [/i]then it ends up in the uncanny valley. I'm not saying the artist [i]can't do something, I'm just saying that this is what happens if they do.
-Never, ever ever use the word BUT. It's existence has one, celestia-given, inalienable purpose, and one alone: to utterly obliterate absolutely everything that comes before it, in favor of everything that comes after it. It's often used to separate a list of positive comments and negative comments (eg: This is awesome, that's neat, this is great, BUT this one little tiny thing looks funny). As a result, it seems like none of the positive comments matter because there's one little tiny fault. I'm pretty sure the word "but" is single-hoofedly responsible for turning vast legions of artists into neurotic perfectionests, because it makes them feel that their work is crap if it has even the slightest shortcoming or flaw.
-There is no bad art.
>> No. 108312
>>108277
WiP's are hard to critique, because you never know what problems the artist is already aware of. Generally, the best time to post a wip is when a particular stage is finished, (eg: the lineart is all done and you're going to start colouring it, but you'd like feedback on the lineart).

The lines are all the same weight, which reduces the readability of the image. Using heavier lines to define the figure overall and lighter lines for details would make it easier to understand the image at a glance. This also creates a visual hierarchy: highest in the hierarchy is the shape and pose of the figure; below that are the details, like the eyes, the wing bones, and the heavier scales on the neck; below those are the details, like the distressing on the legs and tail, and the edges within the mane.

Colouring the image will help the readability, but varying the line weight goes a long way towards making the image pop. The less work the mind has to do to understand what it's looking at, the easier it is to just soak up the art. Plus, a visual hierarchy adds contrast: if the little details look little, the big picture looks BIGGER and bolder.

Anyway... hope this helps. Actualy, I just hope it makes sense: I kinda went into the deep end there, sorry. He's looking pretty buckin' awesome so far, can't wait to see the final. :3
>> No. 108321
>>108312
I do have a colored version as well, it was for deciding what I wanted the end thing to be colored like when the lineart is all redone. For the line thickness, I don't do anything about that till I do the real lineart [I will do the lineart over the sketch] And I'll take what you said when I go about doing it. It'll probably take awhile seeing my last picture, one of a dragon done in the same way, and the first time in the way im doing it, took quite a bit of time to do the lines.
>> No. 108323
Ooooh, thanks WhiteFox and Jim for the really in depth analysis! I would never have noticed anything beyond a vauge "This looks off but I don't know why" without your help!

>>108252
>What hardness is the charcoal? A softer charcoal will have better coverage, so a 6B or 8B should cover most of a page without having to go through half a pencil.
Not sure, it says 2B but it can't be that hard... Can it? Is 8B rare? I can't seem to find any but that might just be because you can't get anything in New Zealand...
>The moon has very harsh lighting, since it has no atmosphere. I wouldn't shade the surface much. Shadows are strong, though... chiaroscuro to the nines.
I'm proud of myself! I actually knew what that word meant! I went and looked at some picture of the moon landings, I get what you mean now about the completely black shadows.
>If he has his head tilted back the way I think he does, the ears should probably be much further back.
That makes sense, I had trouble trying to position the head. I tried a far back head a few times but couldn't figure out what do do with the mane. It seems like it'd get all scrunched up and I couldn't get it to look right.
>Made the neck a little thicker.
So is it the front curved chest line and the middle line?
>Shifted the positioning of the feet back a little. Ponies tend to stand like they're leaning forward a bit.
>tweaked the forward edge of the hind leg so that it's one long arc, rather than a curved thigh with a straight lower leg.Rear legs are always a pain, and they change a lot depending on pose. They often look like a curved thigh with a straight lower leg, just not when the pony is simply standing.
Thanks! I can see it now, looks a lot more natural.
>...I added a little diagram for how I think of the leg when I draw it.
Ooooh, I needed that! I was just kinda scribbling them out haphazardly...
>>108263
>(Mark 1) The direct the head is pointed and the way the muzzle is constructed makes his head look like its looking off to the right and the muzzle looks crooked.
>The twisting on his muzzle seems to come from the nose-to-jaw line is drawn. I've included reference line and head box to show approximately how his head would be pointed in order to get it to be pointing at the center of the planet and I've also included a reference box for the muzzle, in it's corrected position.

I really ought to start using these headbox things, they seem really helpful. So in this case would his ears need to be twisted sort of counterclockwise as well?

>(Mark 2) The shadows seem to be inconsistent with each other, or imply multiple sources.
On the moon the sun is the only significant light source. As such, the shadows should extremely harsh (per WhiteFox's comment.) The position of your pony's ground shadow suggests that the sun is almost right behind the planet (a little low and to the right really,) but the shadows on the head and legs suggest a position much more to the right.
>An interesting point: the result of your current light placement for the ground shadow would be that almost all of the objects we can currently see would be completely in shadow from our perspective, including the side of the planet that we can see. (See the reference on the right.) The charcoal medium you've chosen here would lend itself well to rendering this quite dramatically.

Oh dear, you know I had honestly decided to make Equestria cast a the shadow, as little sense as that makes...
Your suggested sun position looks fun! With just a crescent of Equestrian colour peeking out through the darkness!

>(Mark 3) The cutie mark is too far up and back, giving it the appearance of being on the pony's butt, rather than on the flank.
Heh, I'm never too sure where to place that... Thanks!
>> No. 108339
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108339
>>108276

Thank you very much!
I made those changes you suggested and it looks a lot better. I see what you meant by removing those two lines too. It makes much more sense without them now.

I would have used 2 sided shapes in place of unclosed paths, but I didn't have much time to worry about the thickness of the lines and just wanted to mess with the placement and proportions. I'm not a great sketcher anyways so usually I find it easier to just start with lines.
>> No. 108340
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108340
>>108339

I forgot to ask, do you think I should move the end of the hoof on the left in closer so it looks more like the one on the right?

Also here's a Twilight.
Don't think I'll do anything more with it though.
Just feels a little plain to want to vector further.
Funny though, less than an hour after I made it I went browsing on DA and saw this: http://mysticalpha.deviantart.com/gallery/32806420#/d52gigo Hehe, almost the same except that theirs blows mine out of the water.
>> No. 108341
>>108339
I think that because of where the front legs are, it is making that one back leg stick out further when fact it isn't. I would leave it the way it is, but it's all up to you.
>> No. 108350
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108350
Hey /art/! I have another thing!

Can you guys critique this before I go to the colour phase?

It's the fausticorn, I'm not exactly sure how alicorn bodies work...
>> No. 108355
>>108350
I would have to say the hooves of the back legs seem really round...i also think the front legs might be too skinny, perhaps a little larger? I am not sure though. Other then that, it's looking good

I only do alicorns too so haha
>> No. 108356
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108356
My line art and eyes are finally done. Anything to say before I...well you know?
>> No. 108357
>>108356
Oh, I just noticed something wrong. I noticed that part of the line for the right leg is going over its chest. [it isn't a he or she, but I'll refer to it as he.]
>> No. 108359
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108359
>>108357
Ok, there, I fixed it

This also happens to be twelve layers
>> No. 108379
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108379
Ok, so I just went ahead and finished it. I just couldn't wait to finish such an evil character.
>> No. 108392
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108392
Alright, just finished the colored vector.
>> No. 108396
>>108392
Wow, that is really big [I've seen bigger though] Nice job!
>> No. 108398
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108398
>>108396
>3k x 3k
>vector
>not 10k x 10k
I sketch on 3k x 3k, it's nothing really
>> No. 108420
>>108398
The two largest I've done are 4059x7260 and 7384x6184
>> No. 108425
Hmmm...
>Does Math

My comic pages are usually 5.1Kx6.6K px (8.5x11 in. @ 600dpi), and usually not more than five layers in total, maybe four. Plus text objects.

A single character... 2.7K x 3K px., three or four layers.

Course, this is bitmap rather than vectors, so mileage may vary.

>>108392
This is officially 20% cooler than your average RD artstuffs. :3

>>108263
>Is 8B rare?
Most charcoal pencil sets I've seen have a range from 2B to 6B or 8B, plus a stick of white conté. So they really shouldn't be rare.

>Ooooh, I needed that!
Everypony needs that one... it's one of my top 3 most frequently handed out pieces of advice. :3

>>108379
Hey, look at that: a red and black OC that looks awesome! I guess the whole entire internets was wrong after all, good job. :3

Pretty well the only critique I'd make would be about the line weight, which I already mentioned.
>> No. 108440
>>108425
Eh, couldn't help it

I have lots of characters that are black, most of which are dragons
Dark Lords- Shadow, Abyss, Void, Poison, and Corruption...Fear is another but he is a good guy
Then the dragon god of day-Zokar

My personal OC, Chaos Moon is black too [the female version-Solar Moon, is on this thread]
>> No. 108574
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108574
>>108396
>>108425

Thanks both of you!
Sorry for the late reply.
Have a Lyra!
>> No. 108579
File 133948662043.png - (223.81KB , 3000x2029 , berry_punch.png )
108579
And a Berry Punch.
>> No. 108581
>>108574
That grin kinda scares me
>> No. 108759
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108759
>>108581

Me too.
I didn't really notice the creepiness until I zoomed out and looked at the whole thing.
Lyra does like to do that though.
>> No. 108786
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108786
It's three in the morning and my brain is functioning at about a third of normal!

Can anypony tell me what's wrong here?

I know the two ponies to the side are really off model.

And I'm also curious about the colour combinations, the only knowledge I have is from frantic googling during lunch at school...
>> No. 108798
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108798
Made this this morning.
>> No. 108836
>>108759
a little creepy in the show too
>>108786
You talking about the one with facial hair and the one he is looking at?
>>108798
It's looking good, but whats going?
>> No. 108840
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108840
>>108836
Eh, Idea I had a while ago, except the original concept was a human mask with human arms. I was sketching it out and decided to make it Rainbow Dash instead of some generic pony.

Some sort of mask/ shield thing with colorful cloth attached. Please don't question me too much about it, being that I am still dumbfounded with my obsession with ponies.
>> No. 108841
>>108840
heheh
I myself do not consider myself to be a complete brony yet so don't feel bad heheh,

now this raises other questions, but you dont want questions lol
>> No. 108857
>>108798
This is cool. Freaky, but cool. I like the little blue swirls, gives it a hint of a cloud motif. The coloured... stuff (Fabric? Body tissue?) has a great texture to it.

The edges of the coloured material could be cleaned up. Some places are painted "over the line," and there are white gaps in other places.

It looks like the shadows on the material are a transparent black. A shadow typically has slightly more saturation and a little blue, which makes them much more striking.

For some reason, I'm picturing an MLP:FiM episode where Rarity makes this, and the rest of the mane six just want her to get rid of it.
>> No. 108858
>It's three in the morning and my brain is functioning at about a third of normal!
Whenever this happens to me, I wait till next morning to post stuff. That way, I'm recharged enough to give it one last look over, and make one last round of edits.

I usually have trouble falling asleep, though. :3

>>108786
I can redline this once I'm in front of a computer with the appropriate software. Till then:

>Critique
The necks seem a bit thin. The back of the neck drops straight down from the back of the head, and there's very little (if any) inward curve.

The hooves are rather narrow. My rule of thumb is that the hoof is as large as the eye.

Hind legs have got to be the most troublesome part of drawing a Pony, I dunno how many times I've redlined the back legs for people. Here's a few of them: >>108263 >>108825 >>108627 You may find them informative.

The perspective is noticeably skewed. an easy fix for the pink/yellow mare would be to move the far rear hoof up. For the hoof-bumpers.. I'll save that for the redline, It'd be easier to explain with a diagram.
>> No. 108898
>>108858
Urg, a little embarrassed cause you've already corrected my hind legs. Looking forewards to the redlines, and thanks for doing this!
>> No. 108932
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108932
I don't have a ton of practice with art but I did this over the course of the last two days, and I feel pretty good about it. I think the colors I used arent too abrasive and such but I'd like some feedback :]
>> No. 108934
>>108932
Hmm, the moon kind of looks like a face [I see 2 eyes and a mouth] Is that intentional? lol

The glow seems good as well as the dagger

I don't usually do backgrounds so I am not going to comment other then I think it looks fine.

I'm not sure with what your trying to do with the mane. I don't know how to explain it other then it just looks off [the right side]

The flank and the body seem a little large as well [it may just be me-I am too used to drawing alicorns which tend to be skinnier]
>> No. 108945
>>108934
I drew the mane like that hoping it would imply she was turning her head, and thus it was flying off to the side a bit. At least I know it didn't turn out good enough to make sense in that light, heh.

The background was just meant to be a background; I didn't want to half-flank it but I didn't want it to detract from Rarity. It's not nearly as polished as Rarity or her knife because of that.
>> No. 108948
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108948
So this is the next draft of >>108242

>>108252
>>108263

I adjusted his head position/muzzle/ears and I think they're facing the right way? Should it be facing more to the left? I tried to use the headbox technique like you guys showed my but I'm not very good at it. This exposed one of the eyes, I'm not sure if it's correctly placed either.

I made the legs with a bit more of a back curve, are they correct?

But the neck still feels off, I've redone it about five times and just can't get it right...

I'm planning on doing what JimTheCactus suggested with a crescent Equestria instead of a full one and placing the sun to the right of it.

Overall this feels very awkwardly drawn and I can't find the reason but I think it's mainly the head/neck.

Thanks in advance for any help.
>> No. 108961
>>108932
This looks highly experimental. The shading on the curtains is very different from the shading on the curtain rods, or the lighting on the bricks around the window. The stone is textured, while the curtains and Rarity are not.

This makes the look of the artwork inconsistent, which will give viewers the impression that it's a slapdash and shoddy piece of work.

However, viewers rarely know what the buck they're looking at.

Experimentation is good. Methods are refined by playing around with them, they have to evolve. An artists style gets boring when they let it stagnate.

tl;dr This may not look like the best piece of art, but it's exactly the sort of work a beginner artist ought to be doing.

>Critique
The bricks around the window look squiggly, which would work great for some materials but maybe not so much for blocks of stone.

The gradients on the brass look artificial. This is kinda hard to describe, it's like... they give the impression that they were coloured in Photoshop with an airbrush or gradient tool (or whatever program/tools), rather than giving the impression of being metallic brass.

Rarity's body language and attitude come across quite well. If you care about show accuracy, I could redline a few suggestions. Even if you're not really worried about show accuracy, I could redline some suggestions in general.
>> No. 108970
>>108961
I admit I sort of ran out of patience at points with the background. I tried 4 or 5 things to make the stone look good and just settled when one turned out allright. The background was never meant to be a huge focal point, I justified, and so I didn't need to ensure it had perfect finish. Unfortunately, and of course, that caught up to me.

The curtains were done in the sort of best way I knew how to do curtains, however I certainly need more practice with cloth and... looking at the stone, lots of different textured materials, on that note.

But yes, if you are willing to take your time to point out specifics I would be pleased to hear them!

And on the note of show accuracy, I tried to be somewhat show accurate but I did not assume that my style and the show's smooth-and-neat vector artwork would come across as a believable rendition. Perhaps if I had more experience with my linework, or shading.

Overall I really appreciate your time and kind words. Thank you.
>> No. 109061
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109061
...Finally got around to this one, sorry for the delay.

Previous Comments: >>108858

I drew a little box down there as an example for perspective. When drawing a pony in perspective t helps to imagine the body and legs as a block. Ponies tend to stand with their rear feet a little further back, however... hence the green triangles there.

Most of the adjustments I made to the forelegs of the alicorn and the two colts were to bend the knuckle a bit. See diagram for what I mean by "knuckle." In the show, this bend is rarely prominent enough to look like a distinct joint, and usually just looks like a gentle curve at the end of the leg.

I made a minor tweak to the back of the alicorn's thigh... one unique feature of princesses is a slight recurve just before the corner of the hind leg.

Anyway... Hope this helps some. Sorry it took me so long to get around to it.
>> No. 109067
>>109061
That is a lot of red lining there, but I would agree with the front legs, I've noticed that too. Things like that don't stand out to me in someponys picture till that red line comes in however, not sure why. I am sure that'll help them out a lot. I myself have something to post soon.
>> No. 109069
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109069
A gift I did for a friend.
>> No. 109071
>>109061
Ooooh, thanks again for the really in depth stuff you do. You notice all these tiny little details I just gloss over.

And I love all your little tricks and guides! Like the leg guide and the box trick.

It seems I have a habit of making really tiny necks :p
>> No. 109083
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109083
It's Littlepip.
>> No. 109167
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109167
How the hell do I get that body position right?
Shit's wack, yo.
>>109083
Nice.

The neck is too long and the hind legs are too nubly. Good though.
>> No. 109168
>>109167
Hmm... the head looks a little big, also the neck might be too long
>> No. 109169
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109169
>>109168
I'll fix that later, babe.

But the body?
>> No. 109170
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109170
Alright, I fixed it.
>> No. 109171
>>109170
The neck part looks a lot better
>> No. 109172
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109172
>>109171
Yes dearie, but the body?
That's what I'm needing help on.
>> No. 109178
>>109172
Hmm, not quite sure how to help you on that-pretty difficult.
Let's see here
Legs and Hooves: Well, it is going to be difficult to show any of this really except to describe it since I don't redline but perhaps....ok i got nothing. I would have to wait till there is a little color for the background or the pony itself before i can make judgment there
However, after a little while of looking, I don't see the line that makes the bottom of the body-like as if the body is connected to the ground....
>> No. 109184
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109184
>>109178
I added some color, and a side view.
>> No. 109185
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109185
Can somepony please critique this? You can be harsh as long as there's a reason behind it
>> No. 109196
>>109185
Its kinda hard to critique things that are so cartoony.
>> No. 109197
>>109184
Will you be adding that one back leg in? And just what I thought. The legs are fine. I can already guess that you are going to remove the line [part of it] that is going over the hoof right?

Its looking good
>> No. 109198
>>109197
That's the thing.
The back leg is tricky, and I can't seem to get the right angle or size or anything.
I need redlines pronto.
>> No. 109201
>>109198
hmmm, don't know how to help you there.
i usually do my pictures as side views and ive never done one laying down [except once, but that was Luna on a cloud, and a long time ago]

Your gonna have to get White Fox's attention
>> No. 109202
>>109198
Also, I thought it was good before
>> No. 109242
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109242
I draw so much but only complete 25% of the picture.

I want to finish this one. Give me motivation or something.
>> No. 109244
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109244
I like feedback but I don't want to make a whole thread for a single pic.

This was suppose to just a practice/throwaway thing but it reflected how I was feeling at the time so now I want to finish it or at least make it look better.

Disregard the "shading". I was too tired to make a decent effort. Im'a erase it and do something better later.
>> No. 109250
>>109242
Oh, so that is who you were drawing hm? I thought the tail in the other picture was familiar, but the mane completely threw me off haha

hmm so you want a picture for inspiration? i got a few in my stash on DA, but they are of Chrysalis [note i didnt do them, i just have them there so that i can find them easily]

http://sta.sh/010a28wy0lis
http://sta.sh/05rdhxkpdtl
i havent seen the first one on DA, but the second one is there if you look for it
>> No. 109251
>>109242
Oh, I almost forgot, I'd like to see how your picture turns out, its looking really good so far
>> No. 109262
>>109071
>Ooooh, thanks again for the really in depth stuff you do.
Much obliged! Glad it helped. :3

I always worry about going in depth. Sometimes, it's hard to tell how much feedback somepony is looking for.

>You notice all these tiny little details I just gloss over.
I do life drawing... it trains you to pay attention.

>>109201
>Your gonna have to get White Fox's attention
Sorry I disappeared there for a day or two, I came down with a stomach flu. Normally, getting sick doesn't slow me down much, but this time I was too weak to slouch upright. Had to go to the hospital, they pumped three liters of saline into me.

Fear not, ponies: redlines are inbound. I'd never leave my friends hanging. :3
>> No. 109263
>>109170
>How the hell do I get that body position right?
Image reference.

Image reference, image reference, image reference.

Quick question before I redline this: were you going for standard pony proportions, or something more along the lines of Princess-Walking-Tall Celestia?
>> No. 109268
>>109262
Oh, sorry to hear that =[
I never have to go to the hospital. Nothing ever happens to me except migrains >>
>> No. 109278
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109278
He's not a pony, but if I could get some general critique, that would be great.
>> No. 109297
>>109278
Tirek was epic. :3

Also, he may not be a pony, but he's still from MLP. G1, but still MLP.

I could go into a complete deconstruction of the whole pic, but I don't think that's what you really need.

Rather, I'll say this:
>Keep it up, don't quit, practice makes perfect.
>You're awesome.
>Can't wait to see more. :3
>> No. 109302
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109302
Dashie is sad.
>> No. 109304
>>109263
I make anorexic looking ponies.
Like Fleur.
Red line would be nice.

>>109250
I always draw the characters' mane differently, especially Twilight. best horse
>> No. 109324
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>>109304
Excuse me? Twilight the best pony? Not even lol
Best pony is Luna, unless you are one of those people that includes Chrysalis as a pony, then Chrysalis is the best! haha She can practically be Twilight if she wanted even. Anywho....everypony has their own opinion-I just did this for the laughs haha
>> No. 109350
If people start debating who is best pony, I'm just going to step out of the room until it all blows over. :3

>>109304
Still working on this... I'm not as familiar with the princess body type as I would like so I need to do a few studies, and ref's are hard to dig up for this pose. Sorry for the delay.
>> No. 109356
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>>109350
's'all good, I'm glad you're doing it.
I don't get in debates with who is best pony, because we all know that Twilight is.
Its even canon.
>> No. 109358
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109358
I just saw this episode today, and I fell in love with it. And the song. It's been on repeat all day long.

I did this today, and decided to try something new - just draw, and no worrying about lines. Just do the body shapes and what not. Anyway, here it is. This is the first time I've ever drawn a pony.

And colored. So.
>> No. 109385
This thread isn't about who we think is best. Even though I did make a whole post about it lol. So lets not talk about that now. That can be a different thread.
>> No. 109396
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109396
And, another Littlepip.
>> No. 109398
>>109396
The neck is much too long compared to the rest of the body
>> No. 109423
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109423
I'm trying to get pony anatomy down, they seem so simple but they're so difficult, lol
>> No. 109424
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>> No. 109443
>>109423
The ear is too large, it should be placed more to the top of the head as well. Your other picture has it right though. Theres something with the face, but I can't help you there since I usually do alicorns and they don't have the same face shape.
>> No. 109463
>>109244
Sorry for making you wait. I would say that the head seems a little too small. If your trying to get it anatomically correct in terms of the show, I think it needs to be a little larger. It may be the right size, but the perspective makes it a little hard to tell. All I have to say otherwise is that it looks good. I don't got much to say-I would ask WhiteFox about the head to see if he agrees since I am not sure.
>> No. 109468
File 134040100716.jpg - (465.87KB , 600x800 , applenew - Kopia.jpg )
109468
Made this today. I know, lots of people here hate huma ponies, but eh, I feel better in humanisations than in ponies.
>> No. 109482
>>109468
This is sweet. The anatomy on the arm and hand is just great, and the freckles are a really cute touch.

The red dotted outline is a little distracting, and clutters the image. Particularly around the head, which is already a high detail area.

The folds of fabric on the lower skirt, particularly the ones near the column, look a little disorganized. The rest of the folds give a really nice sense of shape and volume and... fabricyness, I guess.
>> No. 109489
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>>109443
The size of the ear brings down the hairline, and pushes the eye forward. I did a redline to show what I mean.

Well, actually, it's a blue line 'cuz red didn't show up well against the pink. I am a rebel!

I also tweaked the back at the base of the neck, which meet at a right angled corner.

The head didn't seem to sit on the neck quite right, so I also did a little diagram up in the corner for that.

Overall, the proportions and structure are pretty solid. The actual shape of some things, like how certain edges curve or how angled some corners are, could use some work. That's just a matter of practice, tho.

Looking good so far! :3
>> No. 109529
>>109358

Looking for critique on this, if anypony is interested in giving one. I'd love to be able to improve on this.
>> No. 109538
>>109529
I don't say anything on pictures I don't know what to say. I'll look for a bit and then nothing comes I just don't say anything. Also not my area of expertise. I usually do all my stuff more of a side angle. Only did one front view and still-the style is something I don't know anything about.
>> No. 109558
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109558
i usually dont shade.
>> No. 109588
>>109358
This looks okay. Pretty much, it could use more work. The holes at the lower leg are a little rough, and the lines in the hair are very obviously brush strokes.
>> No. 109615
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109615
Ok, I really get the feeling the colors are horrid. I really don't like them but Just can't seem to come up with anything that isn't considered "drab" Also anything else you notice would be appreciated. I've actually not done anything artistic since I was forced to in elementary so there has GOT to be more wrong with it than others are telling me.
>> No. 109617
>>109558
I'm no artist as mentioned in my post above but the first thing I notice is the position of the rear Right leg. Just seems like an awkward stance imo. Shading does seem a bit off too. Perhaps over-shaded? Otherwise it looks really awesome. The armor is really well done.
>> No. 109620
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>>109615
>click on it
>gets smaller

The ear is in an odd place, the mane is too saturated, blue and green just can't look good, the mane is flat (which makes it look drab and dull, the face is just wrong, the iris+pupil is too small, the head is facing the right even though the body is diagonal, and I am really itchy.
>> No. 109623
>>109620
What do you mean blue and green can't look good?
Picture too big- http://darkestdragonking.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d50joot
>> No. 109624
>>109620
Sorry for the image size. Wrong pic uploaded and there really is no excuse... It's a vector. Thanks for the feedback.
>> No. 109626
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>>109623
Are you proving my point or...
>> No. 109631
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>>109620
Sorry for my horrible habit of double posting, but do you thing this color scheme is better? I like it more but some people day it's not pastel-ey/bright enough... (even though it is a cannon color scheme)

Also, I know the expression is a bit off but do the proportions look decent? Thanks for all the help.
>> No. 109634
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>>109631
That color scheme is much nicer.
When people make the cheeks on the eyes look like that... Something in me just snaps.
Its like going Spinach mode.
>> No. 109637
>>109634
Lol alright, but you provide better feedback than "it's horrible 0/10" Thanks for the help. Feeling too lazy to fix tonight but will be working on it tomorrow.
>> No. 109638
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>>109626
I think my blue green combo looks good. We all have our opinions.
>>109631
What do you mean? I just use whatever colors. Like in my picture to the left
>> No. 109647
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109647
Hey. About a year ago I came to /art/ for critique on a Rarity drawing I did, and found that I had a lot of problems I had were with the light source and how that affected the shadows. I've spent the time since then putting all my focus on the lighting and shadows. I guess I'm coming back for critique again, to see if I've got it right? And sorry, it's a WIP and a crappy cell phone picture :(
>> No. 109648
>>109647

Heh, I love it when I forget the structure of the sentence I'm going for halfway through.

...found that I had a lot of problems with the light source and how that affected the shadows
>> No. 109651
>boobs
AHAWHAWHAW

The shading and lighting is looking real good.
Like, damn son, that's detailed.
No errors at all (that I can notice). 10/10
>> No. 109654
>>109651

I thought she looked too sinister to not be thinking of boobs :')
>> No. 109725
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109725
>>109558
Shading... is a pretty deep subject. Lighting is about as complicated as human anatomy, really.

I did a "redline," painting over areas that had lighting where it didn't seem to make sense.

Most of the shading is very dark, or very bright. The dark areas are fine, but replacing a lot of the lighter areas with mid tone would go a long way towards making it look natural. On the legs, for example. If the light is coming from directly to the left, about half the width of the leg should be in shadow, only a sliver in medium light, and the rest a gradient to mid to mid-dark tone.

Objects don't really get near-white highlights unless they're shiny and reflective. Even when they are, the the shinier the surface, the smaller and tighter the highlight.

Anyway, hope this helps. Lighting is pretty complicated, but learning it is just a matter of time and effort, and it's totally worth it. Good luck!
>> No. 109729
>>109620
I disagree. With just about all of this. Completely

Except for the itchy thing, I wouldn't know about that.

>>109634
This is pretty well spot on. Except for all the red stuff.
>> No. 109734
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109734
CUPPO
>> No. 109738
>>109734
I'll drink to that!
>> No. 109739
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>>109738
Does the coffee seem like its at a good angle?
Drawing coffee bubbles. is hard.
dude her butt's in the coffee
>> No. 109774
>>109739
lol just lol
>> No. 109817
>>109647

Just wondering, if there's for sure nothing wrong with this so far and that it's safe for me to continue on with the way I was going?
>> No. 109819
>>109817
The light seems to be just fine, and if you want a second opinion, you might have to wait a bit for Zorad or Whitefox to get back.
>> No. 109821
>>109819
I don't do shading, so I am not going to say anything because I don't know much about it.
>> No. 109835
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109835
uh i guess i have to start somewhere, right?

>>109468
oh hai mallary
>> No. 109852
>>109647
This is quite well done, for what it is. The lighting is stylized, and it looks good. It's hard to say whether or not it's realistic, because lighting conditions can vary so much that almost anything can can be called "realistic." The lighting doesn't look at all natural or candid, but I don't think that's what you were going for anyway.

The blend of realism and stylization does drop into the uncanny valley, tho. It gives me the heebie-jeebies.
>> No. 109936
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>> No. 110023
>>109936
The hind leg closest seems off. Also, the front legs look like they might be too high on her body. Like maybe coming out of her neck?
I haven't seen enough pictures of them standing to know for sure. It just doesn't seem right.
>> No. 110024
>>109936
The hind leg closest seems off. Also, the front legs look like they might be too high on her body. Like maybe coming out of her neck?
I haven't seen enough pictures of them standing to know for sure. It just doesn't seem right.
>> No. 110140
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>>110023

Thanks for the critique.
Does this look better?
>> No. 110147
>>110140
Yeah, it doesn't look like it is coming out her neck anymore. But I think the hind leg thing is still a little odd. Unless somepony else says anything about it like WhiteFox, I would leave it.
>> No. 110152
I think the problem with the hind leg may be because it looks too thin and not compact enough. Easing on that curve behind the knee might help.
>> No. 110160
>>110152

I'm a bit confused.
So should I shorten the line that connects Applejack's back to the rest of the leg?
Or move where it connects up?
>> No. 110167
>>110160
Eh, I'm not too good with words. May I try explaining with redline?
Besides, I just noticed I said something wrong in my previous post - easing up the line behind the knee. Sorry for that :/
>> No. 110168
>>110167

Sure! Thank you!
>> No. 110174
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>>110168
Here's the redline. Basically, I focused on the angle of the leg, to make it look a bit more natural. Tilted the leg a bit more outwards. Pushing the cutie mark to the side helps in showing the leg's angle.

On the left hind leg, I'd just recommend placing the ankle at the same height as the right ankle.

I also left some lines so you could see where the end of the torso and the legs connected.

Hope this helps in any way!
>> No. 110178
>>110174

Thank you very much!
I'll make those revisions and post them when I'm done.
>> No. 110180
>>110174
Yeah, that was what i was trying to think of. Got what I was thinking.
>>110178
Hope this improves
good luck
>> No. 110198
>>110178
I'll be waiting to see the results :)
>> No. 110213
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110213
Guys, I have an INCREDIBLY subjective question.

I know I can draw a show accurate pony, but are there ANY flaws in your work if you draw a pony in your own, HIGH personalized and unique style? Its incredibly important to understand the placement of limbs and features, but are the myriad particulars of those positions and others such as width of eye, length of muzzle, curvature of neck to flank able to be perceived as "misplaced?" Should somepony critiquing the pony art of somepony assume they draw perfectly, or are they just using their style to create the verisimilitude of a correctly drawn pony/animal/whatever? I personally think that the overall functionality/spirit of the art itself must speak for itself immediately, whenever and wherever, or the artist - no matter what his/her skill level, can not make a great caricature; the artist can only make a "good" caricature if it displays technical prowess but no personal feeling. This is the crux of art. If it can not represent the human condition on even the most base level, then it is not a metaphorical work or aesthetic inspiration - All it is, is merely a practice drawing.
>> No. 110220
>>110213
If it is good, then it will stand.

Art does not "have to be" anything. One can draw their ponies show accurate or personalized. It's a matter of preference, artists can do what they want.

The term "flaw" can only really be applied to artwork if the artist was actually attempting something deliberately. If an artist wasn't trying to go for show accuracy, inaccuracies are not flaws. This applies to personal style as well: if an artist is going for energetic poses, a pose that does not convey energy could be considered flawed.

Me personally? My objectives are getting my characters to act well. Facial expressions, body lanugage, that sort of thing. I draw comics, I tell stories, I need good actors. How good the art looks is actually a secondary consideration for me.

If somepony's personal art style looks like a monkey could do it, it doesn't impress. When people push their limits, when they reach for higher standards, when they climb that damn mountain, when they put time and effort and care into their work... we respect that.

So, yes. If an artist draws in their own personal style, they can argue that it is without fault, and that everything is the way it is because that's how they decided it should be. That doesn't mean people will like it, or that the artist will garner much regard for it.

If somepony puts considerable time and effort into developing their personal style, that's worth respect, and the product will probably have great merit. I'd respect that more than 100% perfect show accuracy, actually, since the artist would have to resolve their problems without a definitive source to rely on.

I can tell you right now, work that's nothing but show accurate is pretty damn boring. Same goes for realistic, lifelike drawing. It's an impressive accomplishment, but it's not particularly interesting.

PS: Your post was barely intelligible. I have, like 2/3rds of a clue of what you were trying to say.I think I got it, not sure.
>> No. 110231
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First major thing I've drawn of my own volition in about a year.

It's a character sketch for the D&D character I'm using right now.
>> No. 110244
>>110220
I agree. I have one style on paper. But some practice with show accurate-I got my own style. Like the Zacrilege one [the black and red one I posted here before.] I tend to do things that way now digitally. I didn't use to be that good. I have some on Youtube which was before I found out about DeviantART
>> No. 110249
>>110220

I was actually f-ing around late at night and decided to use all my SAT words in one post WF. I think its cuz some of the word-filters on this site make the sentences sound weird unless your fully saturated into the MLP world.

Anyways, thanks for your opinion. I hate arguing with people on what art really is and what it should be.

I hardly think ponychan is the place to talk about it. A lot of people here want artwork out of fandom, but they really should understand that effort is the only way to reach any goal in life.

I think that the peon from warcraft III sums it up the best when he sais: "work, work, work"

TO anypony who wants to get better, understand that there really are no limits. It's useless to just complain to others on the internet on how your going to get better or how your stuff never turns out well, because at the end of the day, one person put it 5 years of practice, and the other put in 5 months.

This does not have to mean that visiting pchan and talking about art is bad. But let it be used as a tool of inspiration and constantly forging ahead to reach your artistic dreams.

If you're jealous that somepony can draw better than you, that's not a bad thing. Envy is a human emotion and if you can use it as fuel for your working spirit, than that's more power to you. It actually is one of the main reason so many great artists today started drawing in the first place.

Lastly, (and this is more of my opinion), don't just draw ponies. EVER. Have you ever heard the Bruce Lee quote, "i fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks one, but the man who has practiced 1 kick 10,000 times?" Personally, I feel as if this method of thinking is not fruitful in the long run by any means. You must be able to draw all sorts of things and practice using your mind to think of the best way to solve how to draw a piece no matter what the subject matter. After about 3 years of practice, you can start to adapt your style and grace to all sorts of things that beckon you to draw.

This is not to say that drawing ponies is a fruitless venture. Any drawing you DO make, even if it is a copy, will teach you hand-eye coordination skills and good line-drawing. Making good lines and shapes is the backbone of drawing. After a while, you will start to understand that all object, even 2D, exist as 3D object, and being able to draw something in different angles is critical to bringing your object/person/pony to life.

That's about all I have to say for now, lastly, do yourself a favor and buy a tilted drawing board, it will help you make the shapes and lines that your normally desk-adjusted wrist and arm cannot make due to the way they bend.

TL;DR Practice, Learn, Think, Practice more, and be inspired. Give it time, and your skills will grow.
>> No. 110250
>>110220

btw, I am not trying to coach you, of all people, Haha! I just hope that the people starting out will get interested in the wall of text I just posted. Had I read that years ago, it would've saved me a lot of hand-cramps :)
>> No. 110289
>>110250
Think you could've mentioned that in the first post lol
>> No. 110296
>Lastly, (and this is more of my opinion), don't just draw ponies.
This isn't just your opinion, it is very real and definite truth. Sticking to a comfort zone or over-focusing on specific aspects will only stunt the growth of an artist, and the work ends up becoming stale. Experimentation is the spice of life.

Besides, taking the time to go and do something different is a great way to loosen up. Actually, I started drawing ponies (and posting on P-chan to begin with) because I wanted to take a break from all the technical design sorta stuff I'd been doing... it's been quite refreshing and educational.
>> No. 110313
>>110231
Dang, that's a lot of detail on the braids. Must have been a fair bit of work.

There's a lot of space between the eye and the back of the head, which makes his facial features look pushed over to the side.

The fabric of the robe doesn't really look... fabricey. It doesn't fold, crease, or drape naturally.

His head is pretty small compared to FiM style pony's... It's about par with the general size of an actual horses head, though. :3

Anyway. Hope this helps!
>> No. 110321
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>>110289

I am a newpony when it comes to channing!

>>110231

I can definitely see the character and its resemblance to the MLP world. However, there are 2 major flaws with it. 1: Proportion. It's the basic foundation for all drawings and the body is a little bit too big for the head and legs to snugly accompany it. I mainly judge this by the neck line, with makes the chest of the pony seem a bit big (i'm not sure, maybe you were going for that).
2: Conveyance. The image itself speaks, but it could speak better if a few bits of detail were added to the cloth to show the way it contorts and works with the body. The front foot bends at a way that seems improbable to a looker, because its length-in-relation to the other foot makes it too long. If the filaments in the foot are contracting ( i.e. bends at joints), then the bending foot should have less length that the shorter one.

I have never done a critique before and I wanna say that I like the idea and design of it, it just needs some tweaking.

<<random image because I don't know how to make the site empty the image upload bar
>> No. 110330
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Sooooo, I made a pony... I know the leg's layered wrong (the end of the hoof should be behind and the mid part in front of the pole) but beyond that is there anything wrong with it?

Thanks.
>> No. 110351
>>110330
The mouth looks a bit droopy; if I had my tablet nearby, I'd attempt to redline it for you.
>> No. 110360
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>>110174

Sorry for the wait.
I finally just got time to make revisions.
Thank you very much for the redlines!
>> No. 110366
>>110360
You're welcome! Just be sure that you didn't simply change it like I suggested, but learned how the leg works.
>> No. 110368
>>110360
Well done!
>> No. 110403
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110403
Drew this for fun. Criticism is much appreciated.
>> No. 110427
>>110403
Tyrael/Celestia?
>> No. 110554
>>110330
The shape of the eyes.

The far eye sort of bulges outward. For a FiM style pony, the nose covers the lower part of the eye, so most of the lower inward curve isn't visible.

The muzzle looks sort of tilted downward, which gives the face an awkward shape.

The near eye seems narrow. Even if you're not worried about show accuracy it leaves a lot of empty space between the eye and the ear, and makes his face look pushed to one side.

The hooves seem narrow. My RoT is that the hooves are about the same size as the eye (which is about half the width of the head, in show accurate proportions).

Other than all that, the proportions and shape are pretty solid. I like the pose, too: nice body language.

I could do a redline, if you like.
>> No. 110569
>>110368
>>110366

(Sorry for the late response. I've been a bit busy.)

Thanks! And yes, whenever I get revisions I always like to study them a bit, see what I did wrong, and take mental notes.
>> No. 110585
>>110569
I myself always finish what I am doing and put what I am told to make my next picture better
>> No. 110587
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>> No. 110590
>>110587
Wow, how did you do that?
>> No. 110591
>>110587
Wow, how did you do that?
>> No. 110592
>>110587
Wow, how did you do that?
>> No. 110599
>>110590

Modeled half the pony in low poly.
Added a symmetry modifier.
Added a turbosmooth modifier and set iterations to 2.
Duplicated the mesh and added a push modifier of -3 to put the new, now smaller mesh inside the first.
Added a normal modifier to invert the faces so that when combined with first mesh, it appears to be a hollow pony.
Duplicated the new mesh.
Deleted the normal modifier and changed the push modifier amount to 3.1 to avoid clipping with the other mesh.
Deleted the top half and stitched it closed.
Chose a dark brown glass material and applied it to the first two meshes making up the pony.
Chose a murky brown/rust colored water material and applied it to the inner most mesh making up the cola.
Rendered with iray.
>> No. 110602
>>110599
neat [though i didnt really understand the process]
what program did you use?
>> No. 110603
>>110602

3ds max.
I stuck a reference image in one of the sideview viewports and modeled it around that while switching to and from perspective mode and filling it out to make it three dimensional.
>> No. 110607
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110607
Another odd/carpet inclined pony.

Sparkle this time.

I know that the fabric is a little too.....not right. And the head shape is too boxy.

Any suggestions?
>> No. 110610
>>110607

Maybe make the head a little smaller? Not sure if it's the mane in the way but the proportion looks a little off
>> No. 110620
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110620
I've made a few vectors. This is probably my best one. I honestly can't make too many good vectors.
>> No. 110621
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110621
>>110620
Are you doing the way of "vectoring" like I have attached in my image? (one in the middle) If so you should really start to use curves (one on the right) to get a smoother look. While your way will still retain infinite scaling ability; it wont look as good as a vector that uses curves.
>> No. 110641
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110641
>>110621

You can also make that shape with just two anchor points.
>> No. 110646
>>110641
indeed.
I haven't used the pen tool a long while, but I was just pointing out his image didn't have "vector" curves.
>> No. 110652
>>110607
Legs seem a little small [skinny wise]
>> No. 110653
>>110621
i do mine a lot like the middle one, except when it comes to curves i place them closely together so you cant really tell the difference that much. Tale the OP picture for example. Things like eyes can be improved on though. But that is also an older picture, newer ones are more smooth. [that was the first picture i started doing it on so yeah]
>> No. 110678
>>110653

I like to use as few anchors as possible. It's a bit tougher than adding more in when your trying to line everything up, but it's the easiest way to insure smooth lines.

To do outlines I usually draw a vector path along the outer most edge, then duplicate it, then move the new line in enough keeping in mind that the width between the two is even, then cut and paste it to it's own layer above the old one and use the fill tool. "Subtract Front Shape" paths and clipping masks are really helpful too when it comes to making easy notches, holes, and other shapes in otherwise smooth lines.

The way CS6 handles vector layers feels different from CS5 though. I keep messing up when I'm try to cut/paste or even select paths, and sometimes when I switch layers a duplicate of the path will remain until I delete it for some reason.
>> No. 110685
>>110678
I use GIMP, and I don't use the path's tool. I use free select. So my newer pictures are actually made of ONLY straight lines, yet you can't really tell that. Which is why it is important that I put a lot of points down for the selection so that it appears round.
>> No. 110725
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110725
>Looks over at his calligraphy pens and India ink.
You kids and your vectors.
>> No. 110743
>>110725
Whenever I draw IRL and need a pen, I use a fountain pen. The kind for writing.

Wobbly lines everywhere.
>> No. 110756
File 134144143790.jpg - (251.21KB , 4000x3000 , Micropony~Red.jpg )
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>>110554
Thanks!
I thiiink I get it.
So would this be closer?

>>110587
WANT!
>> No. 110760
>>110743
For the past five years, my primary goal has been to improve the quality of my line art. I think, in all that time, I've managed to gain at least half a clue of what I'm doing. Maybe. I think. :3

I need to try fountain pens one of these days, dip pens (which should never be dipped, go figure) are a pain to keep loaded properly. >_<

>>110685
Is there any particular reason you don't use paths? They're a lot more effective than a selection, and not that hard to learn.

>>110756
Looks like progress to me. :3 The muzzle looks much better. The hooves... well, mouse drawn lines probably don't do them justice, but it seems like you got the idea. :3

Another thing about eyes: the ovals are tilted back a little. Straight vertical ones look static and less lively.

Sorry I didn't do that redline, I loose track of stuff far too easily... WF is worst pony.
>> No. 110767
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>>110760
Heh... I have no idea how do do this 'computer' stuff...

You're busy redlining every-feathering-pony on /art/, and you're running two tumblr blogs, you've got a looooot on your plate! I'd be loosing track of a lot more things in your position!

Also you took my Rarity suggestion!
>> No. 110770
>>110767
>Heh... I have no idea how do do this 'computer' stuff...
The only thing I really do on the computer is typography and colouring.... even then, I'm practicing lettering by hand, and I developed my colouring methods to feel as much like working traditionally as I could. :3

>you've got a looooot on your plate!
I'm also developing material for my own (original setting, furry sci-fi) comic project. All the pony stuff you see is just what I'm doing for fun.

Basically, the thing you have to understand is that I'm kind of a crazy person. I honestly don't do anything other than art stuff (I don't have a job, I'm on social assistance for medical disability). Half the reason I do critique is because it's one of the best ways for me to socialize. :3

>Also you took my Rarity suggestion!
That was you? I totally took that suggestion, it was phrased/presented perfectly for what I wanted to do with the tumblr. :3
>> No. 110772
>>110760
Hmm, I can never get them right.
Also, I usually draw on paper first then get my tablet and draw over the paper onto the tablet and then do it a third time with the selection to get the colors of the line i want and such. Takes time. Some pictures i don't do on paper, I just get started on the computer lineart
>> No. 110775
>>110770

>typography

So you design typefaces?
That's something I've always been interested in but had no idea where to begin. Plus I have terrible handwriting.
>> No. 110776
>draw over the paper onto the tablet
Wow, really? I have never been able to make that work.

I just draw and ink on paper, scan, use Levels in Photoshop to clean up leftover pencils and whiten the paper, then use a painting-under technique to colour (Multiply is my best friend).
>> No. 110779
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>>110770
That sounds really fun! I've always wanted to do the whole 'artist' thing but I just don't have that passionate drive... Well actually I'm just really lazy...

*Flutteryay*! I was worried that you might not want to include canon characters at first but then I realized "He lives in Ponyville, he's bound to run into them.".

Leaving for 2 days, when I get back I shall attack you with art needing reds!
>> No. 110780
>>110775
Nup, that's type design. Typography more involves actually putting stuff on the page, arranging it, and making it readable, and choosing the right font to use.

Some people consider type design to be a part of typography, and are content to leave hairs unsplit... I am not one of them. Like I said: crazy person.

I have designed a couple of fonts, nothing fancy or anything (bastard gothic is fun), but it's not the sorta thing I do often. I do make up new monograms to sign my work with every now and then, but that's more of a logotype than a font.

The theory is actually pretty simple and easy, it's just that there's a lot of it to go through... Wikipedia will cover a good deal of it, and there's plenty of books on the subject.

If you're just doing it for fun, well... just go have fun with it, and pick up the theory as you go.

GO HAVE FUN WITH IT! RIGHT NOW! GO!
>> No. 110791
>>110776
I did that with the Zacrilege one, it turned out good didn't it? For an OC, it sure is more popular then Chaos Moon/Solar Moon. Perhaps more popular then Zyrathus...you can see them on my DA gallery
http://darkestdragonking.deviantart.com/
>> No. 111158
File 134182549300.jpg - (829.63KB , 600x951 , sluttyshy - Kopia.jpg )
111158
Another humanised one.
>> No. 111233
Sorry been gone, was out of town.
>> No. 111247
File 134199735973.jpg - (850.18KB , 1800x3000 , AJ_06.jpg )
111247
Attempting to vector one of my favorite JJ drawings.
>> No. 111248
>>111247
is that Apple Jack?
>> No. 111259
>>111248

Yep.
>> No. 111262
>>111259
Your going to fix that part on the forehead? where the hairline is all straight? I can't really describe it. But I can't help you on that because I don't draw people-I wouldn't have a clue what I am talking about =[
>> No. 111264
>>111262

Yes, that part will be covered up with hair which I'm just finishing up now.
>> No. 111402
>>111264
alright...just making sure lol
well i can't see anything wrong with it the way it is now
>> No. 111419
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111419
>>111402

Thanks. :)

I finished it for the most part.
The only thing left now is to fix any mistakes I made and add some more shadows in.
>> No. 111430
>>111419
its looking good

lol, dresses doesnt match this cowgirl
>> No. 111438
>>111430
Well, that's why she's biting her lip: she's obviously feeling very awkward right now. :3

Speaking of which, nice body language and facial expression.

The end of her ponytail could use a little more work, it looks more like a solid mass than a floof of hair.
>> No. 111439
I just noticed, the fingertips are really spindly. The strap of her dress must be glued to her skin, or painted on.

The freckles look cute. :3 Human freckles are darker than the skin, by the way.
>> No. 111443
>>111438
heh, didnt think about that
cant imagine Rainbow putting another dress on...
>> No. 111447
File 134210106714.png - (130.85KB , 1051x419 , Cteno experimentti.png )
111447
Hi, so I just got my tablet and here's what came out. Slugbox's Cteno.

I'm not very satisfied with it personally, I know I could do better with both lineart and colouring.
>> No. 111551
File 134216675161.png - (547.14KB , 1800x3000 , AJ_07.png )
111551
>>111430
>>111438
>>111439

Thank you both!
The vector is based off of one of John Joseco's drawings from his tumblr, so I can't really take credit. :)

I agree that the ponytail looks kinda odd. It even felt that way when I was making it, but that's the way it looked in the original. As far as I could tell at least... Some of the lines in that area were a bit undefined in the sketch so I went with how I though he meant for it to look.

Anyways, I fixed the strap, added a few more shadows, and changed a few minor things around. I think the finger look spindly because the outside lines cut into them a bit. I'll try to fixed those and the hair soon. As for the freckles I guess I forgot that this isn't pony Applejack so I made them a darkish brown.
>> No. 111941
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111941
Trying to practice drawing odd poses and at weird angles...
>> No. 112000
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112000
Eh?
>> No. 112015
>>111941
Not bad. The body looks like it's off to the side a bit, rather than hanging straight down, but this would make sense if she were swinging slightly.

The lower foreleg looks like it's coming out from behind the neck.

>>112000
Dude... nice GET.

Would you like a redline? I have a few comments about the structure, and it'd be easier to show than tell.
>> No. 112016
>>112000
thats pretty neat, gonna be hard to type with hooves though lol
>> No. 112018
>>112015

Not sure what a redline is, Actually.
>> No. 112022
File 134258594458.jpg - (718.30KB , 2550x3507 , April 001.jpg )
112022
Well It is taking a long time for the ATG to accept me into the group, so I am asking you ponies to critique my work.

The theme it was: Ready for Action

The title of my work is "Ready for Hugs"
>> No. 112049
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>>112015

Thank you, I fixed it up a little. :)
>> No. 112051
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>>108009
>Anypony can post their art in this thread for criticism
Well...
>> No. 112053
File 134261726536.png - (129.16KB , 550x500 , u jelly.png )
112053
Praise Me, For on this day I haven given you Jelly.

>>112051
I like it a lot.
I would describe it as harsh.
My vocabulary is not good now.
Its good, and I see no flaws.
10/10 would bang.
>> No. 112067
>>112018
A redine is where someone draws corrections/suggestions overtop the orignal work. eg: >>108252

It can be much easier to get a point across visually, but some artists don't like people drawing all over their work. Since artists usually love em or hate em, I always ask before doing one.

>>112051
This is a really good sketch.

The proportions are closer to an adult mare than a filly. They're spot on for an adult, tho.

>>112053
If you're looking for unvarnished praise, you're in the wrong thread. :3

Are you actually looking for feedback on this?
>> No. 112083
>>112053
lol jelly
jell-o?
>> No. 112087
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>> No. 112089
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>>112053
>Jelly.
mm... yummy
>> No. 112091
>>112089
oh shi~ doublepost
>> No. 112101
>>112091
triple post? lol
yeah, Twilight has been looking quite jelly lately...i wonder whats wrong? lol
>>112087
this picture is Hamazing! [Kid Icarus Uprising reference with the H....but its AMAZING]
i dont usually favorite normal pony pictures but that would be one id favorite if its on DeviantART
>> No. 112164
>>112067
Criticism as always is welcomed.
Jell-o is fun to do, not sure it looks right though.

>>112083
>>112089
Jell-o master race pony
>> No. 112169
>>112164
so you DID do it?
>> No. 112170
File 134269403946.jpg - (262.58KB , 4000x3000 , Rainbow Alicorn.jpg )
112170
>>112053
Aha! That's the most adorable thing!

So I made a Rainbow Dashicorn for my Facebook picture thingy using highly professional crayon!

Can I get some of them tasty reds :3

Or maybe not, I dunno. Because I don't like Dash enough to make a second one actually... So could y'all just point out the glitches so I can notice them next time? Just as a general thing for this forwards perspective cause I never really use it.
>> No. 112205
File 134272828097.png - (220.97KB , 550x447 , crazy downward smile.png )
112205
>>112169
Yeah! Isn't it great?
>> No. 112207
>>112164
>Jell-o is fun to do, not sure it looks right though.

That's what I was going to mention, actually. The jelly lacks a sense translucency, so it looks more like wax than gel. It has surface reflections, but no internal reflections.

Her shape is fairly well structured too, so she doesn't really look blobby.
>> No. 112208
>>112205
I've seen better =D [gel wise....don't remember that, but I've seen a lot of good pictures, I can't point you to the one I thought was best because I don't remember it lol]
>> No. 112216
File 134273809943.jpg - (64.02KB , 898x898 , 7-19-2012 6-35-39 PM.jpg )
112216
Started vectoring.
I'll add in other details as I continue.
>> No. 112219
>>112216
is it a cannon character?
>> No. 112228
>>112219

Yep, Daring Do.
>> No. 112230
File 134274849617.png - (142.83KB , 697x569 , loveisinbloom.png )
112230
Hello!
I'm trying to do a drawing, but I'm confused.
In this picture I'm trying to make pinkie pie floating from balloons (they will be sketched and added later)
I'm struggling with anatomy though. Help?
>> No. 112271
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112271
I made this on paint earlier today, the whole thing is not original but I had to erase the arms and redo them and draw the guitar so a fair bit of work did go into it. This is the only pony art I have done so far what do you guys think :p
>> No. 112275
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112275
>>112230

Im by no means a pony expert, but have a look at this anyway.

The body is too long, the legs are too short and rectangular. I mightve made them too thick instead and im not sure if the joint on the front leg goes where i put it since i extended the leg from your original joint.

The neck might also need to be longer but thats just preference on my part i guess.
>> No. 112292
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112292
Update.
>> No. 112303
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112303
>> No. 112314
>>112303
This looks very pretty. Very slick lines.

The lighting may or may not be the most realisitic, but I'd have to see it at a more complete state before I could say anything relevant.
>> No. 112320
>>112303
Oh, now I have jelly brain too.
Interesting place to try some criticism here.
>> No. 112321
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>>112320
:3
>> No. 112324
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(Deleted other post - finished vector for now)

>>112314

Thank you!
I haven't put much thought into lighting/shading yet so I'm completely open to suggestions. :)
>> No. 112329
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112329
Oi.
>> No. 112382
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112382
>>112324

I made a quick wallpaper using some of the assets from this because I couldn't get to sleep.
>> No. 112385
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>>112324
Critique est magnifique
>> No. 112436
>>112385
Ce n'est pas bein critique.

Good intentions, bad attitude, poorly thought out.

>>112324
My comment was directed at >>112303.

Would you like a redline of

>>112329
This looks like a pony-generator pic with some flames and freaky eyes 'shopped in. The design looks cobbled together.
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>> No. 112491
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112491
bathing my girls finished :3
>> No. 112493
>>112385

Thanks!
I can't believe I forgot the shine on pupils...
I'll change the line on the hoof too.
I like the doodle on the right side by the way. It's cute. :)

>>112436
Ah, sorry, For some reason I thought I saw my post when I moused over the link.
>> No. 112496
>>112491
Shouldn't they be a little wet if they were just done bathing? :)
>> No. 112498
>>112496
Look at manes.
>> No. 112499
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>>112491
Hnnng, this is so cute and well done =) I really like the shading. Especially their manes.
So much life in their expressions.

If I were to give any critique, it would be that their wings could use some more shape. Right now, the little one's looks like it's a collection of feathers, more than an actual limb.
It doesn't hurt the total picture at all, just a tiny detail.

It would really bump up the wow levels if you included some water drops =)
>> No. 112502
>>112499
Take note of your comments next time. Thank you.
>> No. 112517
>>112491
The shadows are extremely soft, and mostly ambient. There isn't much strength to any of the shadows, nor any cast shadows (ie.: shadows being cast by an object onto another object). This is actually very appropriate for a bathroom scene. It also comes across as a stylistic limitation, which I see with nearly every single image drawn and rendered like this.

The filly's feathers don't look anything like actual feathers. Again, this is more of a stylistic matter, so by all means take it or leave.
>> No. 112573
>>112436
No need to get upset about it.
>Bad attitude
Please tell me how I came off with a 'bad attitude'.
>poorly thought out
Um... Explain?

And when I said 'Critique is magnificent', it was supposed to be a generalization of all critique, not just the critique I gave.
>> No. 112580
>>112573
I could see a reason to get upset about it: bad critique is detrimental to artists in the long run. I'm particularly upset, mind you. I just have issues with some of your comments.

I'm going to do something I don't normally do for people... I'm going to critique your critique.

Your name immediately puts a negative tone on what you say. It poisons the well. If a comment could be interpreted as either casual or snide, the assumption will lean toward snide. Particularly the "just cuz" note, it's entirely nutral, really, but you could read it any number of ways.

Using Verzi as a comparison is both disrespectful of Verzi, and unenlightening to the artist. It may be an apt comparison, but it's vague. What exactly is it to "pull a Verzi?" Why is it a bad thing to do?

As for poorly thought out, I actually liked the pose of the hoof. Having it fully planted would look much more secure and stable. Hanging on by the fingertips is that much more dramatic. Except that ponies don't really have fingers per se, so what can you do? Well, hanging on by the back corner of the hoof seems much less secure, so it works for me.

The shape of the hoof could be much improved, mind you, but you haven't made any suggestions to that effect.

The redline of the head isn't explained, so it's not clear that it's pointing out the shape of the ear and nose. Also, a red-line is usually drawn over top the original drawing whenever possible.
>> No. 112581
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112581
>>112580
>my name
That's my name. Deal with it.
I didn't change it specifically for this purpose.
>just cuz
Wow, you're really over-analyzing this, aren't you? Maybe I should have put an XDDD face after it.
It was just a cute little drawing I added. Don't make it a big fucking deal.
>verzi
Yeah that one was kind of a dick move.
>hoof pose
I thought the grip looked rather loose, and simply suggested a different way of doing it.
>shape of the hoof
I kinda did.
>The fact that the redline is even there should indicate the improvements needed.
And who says a redline has to be over the original picture?
I thought it would be just as helpful.

And I do come off as insensitive and brash. That's just who I am
>> No. 112584
>>112491
Daaaaaym. That's good.

I'm sorry... That's an objectively useless comment but daaaaym... That's good.

I really like... her mane... and... everything about it! and! It looks really really good! And everything is really really good!
>> No. 112585
>>112581 >>112580
I don't want any arguments in this thread. If you guys want to continue that, take it somewhere else please, thanks.

>>112580
Critique of a critique? that sounds funny
>> No. 112586
>>112517
Thanks.
>>112584
:3
>> No. 112598
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112598
one of my first pony drawings.
>> No. 112628
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>>112598
Sweetie has matured and became an elegant mare. Very nicely. :3
>> No. 112631
>>112628

Daww... That drawing is adorable, is very well done.
>> No. 112640
>>112585
Zorad, I wasn't arguing. FFS asked me to explain, so I did.

I don't really care if he writes bad critique or not, either. He made a few points, I disagreed with some of them so I offered a few counter points for the consideration of the artist. FFS asked me to explain them, so I did.

>>112631
I have to be honest, I find the drawing kind of creepy.

>>112628
Are you looking for comments on this, or is it just a reaction pic of sorts? In the case of the latter, would you care for a redline?

Also, have you made a gallery thread on the board? Might want to, if you'll be posting work regularly.

>>112598
Well, for a "one of your first," this is really good. It's an interesting interpretation of Sweetie Belle as an adult, and honestly I really could see her with a Fleur de Lis sorta build.

Some of the curves look slightly awkward, particularly on the mane and tail. The curves are just fine when you look at them individually, but the spirals as a whole don't flow as smoothly as they could.

The lowest curl on the tail is joined to the purple section by a separate arc. It's the only curl that does this, which makes it look out of place.

Those hind legs... the structure is really nicely done. The way the body overlaps the leg on the left and the way the inner thigh comes out from the body is really nicely handled. The one on the left seems rather long.

The ear seems set rather low. My rule of thumb is that the lower corner of the ear lines up horizontally with the outer corner of the eye. The corners of eyes shaped like Rarity's are somewhat higher than average, tho.

I can't tell if the head is meant to be tilting downward or not. The placement of the features suggests that it should be level, but something about the pose of the neck and head make me think it's tilted down a bit.

There are few points about the structure that seem awkward:
-The right edge of the right foreleg comes up rather high.
-Both the left and right forelegs are overlapped by the chest/neck. This makes the chest seem to bulge outward significantly.
-The left leg doesn't seem to be set as closely against the body as the right.

This might be easier to show with a redline. Would you like one?

At any rate, nice work all around. Very expressive, solid figure, and stays faithful to the original with being confined to it.

Hope some of this helps! :3
>> No. 112649
>>112628
What a pretty little filly anon :)
>> No. 112652
>>112640
Thanks! I'll be sure to use these tips next time I make a similar pic. Also some redlines would be very helpful. :)
>> No. 112674
>>112640

A little creepy I guess, but only because of the text I would say.
>> No. 112803
>>112674
The (mostly) realistic human arm holding up a cartoon pegasus filly? No, that's not surreal at all.

But yeah, the text does kind of have that creepy vibe to it. Plus Scootaloo's expression: she looks like an infant, or a pet, or possibly drugged.
>> No. 112830
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>>112640
> Are you looking for comments on this, or is it just a reaction pic of sorts? In the case of the latter, would you care for a redline?
I don't know. This brony >>108009 said...
>Anypony can post their art in this thread for criticism
I came to this thread. Will be grateful for any criticism.

> Also, have you made a gallery thread on the board? Might want to, if you'll be posting work regularly.
Thanks, but i don't need a special thread for my mad skills.
>> No. 112834
>>112830
I find the horn directed too high. Если поднять голову в обычное положение, то рог будет направлен практически перпендикулярно вверх.
Is it Cadence?
>> No. 112837
>Will be grateful for any criticism.
Well, since you asked:
>Thanks, but i don't need a special thread for my mad skills.
I hate to break this to you, but I don't find your work particularly interesting. It's polished, it's refined, and it's so very neat and clean. It's bland, it's generic, and it's utterly devoid of originality or creativity.

Apart from the very clean look, it's rather unambitious. Have you tried working with perspective? Dramatic lighting? Colour? Come on, experiment! Loosen up! Live a little!
>> No. 112893
>>112830
Please don't call me a brony in the future....

>>112640
You should see my first! haha
I went back to see what my first one was back on November 3rd 2011, and this is what I found http://fav.me/d4f0x57 I am rather surprised at what it was lol

>>112830
I like your pictures the way they are. You should stop being so Anonymous
>> No. 112899
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I require critique.
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>>112598
Your first is better than my latest... Maaaaaarmalade!

The second pony I ever drew... Shut up! It was a joke OC!
>> No. 112903
>>112834
>I find the horn directed too high
Yes, it looks like you're right.
>Is it Cadence?
No, just a quick sketch.

>>112837
>I hate to break this to you, but I don't find your work particularly interesting. It's polished, it's refined, and it's so very neat and clean. It's bland, it's generic, and it's utterly devoid of originality or creativity.

Oh, you shot me. This is the main problem - i can draw lines, but can't draw an interesting picture. I guess i just don't have the talent for it. Maybe i need to radically rethink my approach to drawing. Thanks for the truth.

Thanks all.

*back in the bushes*
>> No. 112907
By the way Whitefox:
I went out and bought ink and a brush the other day. I tried it out but it didn't really produce nice black lines, just kinda weak grey ones.

It's "Indian Ink" which wikipedia ways is British English for "India Ink" so it should be the same thing. But it says "jet black" on the label not "carbon black. Is it the same thing?
>> No. 112914
>>112907
Like painting? I know some things about painting
>> No. 112915
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>>112914
Then answer the man.
>> No. 112947
>>112907
First, let me just say: welcome to traditional media. The package information is nigh useless, expect a lot of trial and error. Many trials. Many errors.

Jet black? Not sure. That sounds more like marketing fluff than a technical term.

"Carbon Black" just means that the ink is made of carbon particles in a bonding solution. If it's actual India Ink, and not acrylic or laquer, it should be carbon black. Laquers are pretty solid inks, but acrylic in any shape or form usually has poor coverage.

When you say "weak," is it like an even dark gray, or is it rough and textured? If it's rough and textured, you might be inadvertently drybrushing... this is a technique artists use to add texture. You may need to do one or two of the following: load more ink onto the brush, move more slowly, or touch less length of the bristles to the paper.

India ink can vary a lot between brands and formulas. If it's fountain pen ink, or calligraphy ink, it'll be much thinner. A lot of brands are just really cheap stuff, tho. Sometimes you can leave a bottle open for a while to let some of the solution evaporate, and it'll darken a bit. Or you might need to shake before using.

The ink may be old if it's been sitting on the shelf too long. Find something to poke at the bottom of the bottle with. If there's a mass of thick gunk at the bottom, you might be able to stir it up into something usable. If you're lucky. More likely, you'll end up with little floaty bits of gunk that love to ruin your day.

Hope some of this helps... I need to get back to drawing.
>> No. 112948
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>>112899
Still lookin' for help on this.
And opinions? Are you fine with how pone looks?
And do you know what's happening?
Also do you prefer working with traditional or digital?
>> No. 112950
>>112948
Lighting is a huge subject. There's more here than even I could cover in a single critique. You're off to a good start, play with different looks for lighting (eg: sharp wet highlights, soft diffused lighting, ets),

Read every single tutorial you can possibly get your hooves on, and amass as large a library of reference/inspirational images as you possibly can. Photos, not other peoples art.

Don't just read up on lighting techniques in visual arts, either. Read up on stage lighting, and photography.

As for the figure, I could redline the legs for you next time I'm in front of a computer with photoshop. That's the only thing that stands out to me.
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>>112950
>>112950
>redlines on the legs
Yes, please.
>> No. 112954
>>112953
Right, will do. Wont be able to do until I get home, so it might be a couple of hours.
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>>112954
Okay.
I'll be eagerly awaiting your arrival.
And thanks with the tips about the light, I'll get on it asap.
>> No. 112987
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Eeyup, another attempt I am slightly more satisfied with.
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thoughts?

>>112987
What program do you use?
Also maybe try changing the brush size so the lines aren't so huddled up?
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>>112953
One redline, hot off the press.

The leg on the right overlapped the abdomen quite a bit. A leg can only twist at the hip, so the knee has to point in the same direction as the foot (that's the tl;dr version... the ankle can tilt on two axis, which muddies the definition of "in the same direction").

The far leg seemed really, really thin around the stiffle. I pulled the corner up a little to make it a little more solid without making the leg look any thicker than it had to. I also reshaped the thigh a bit, which may have added more weight than necessary anyway... I am DerpFox.

By the way, that bit of shadow under the armpit? That's pure win. It adds an impression of depth to the whole torso. I love how shaggy and scruffy the hair looks, nice use of expressive strokes.

Anyway, hope this helps some.
>> No. 113010
>>113008
You're a godsend, m'boy.
Thank you.
>> No. 113012
>>113010
All too happy to help. :3

>>112997
This... is hard to gauge, since it's mostly bits and piece. It's also personally styled, which makes things harder to consider.

Twilight, with the hair, eyeshadow, and tongue stud, looks so punkish in that shot, that's epic. :3

I will say this much: this stuff is fun. Not just Twilight's look or Applejack's expression, either. Celestia's mane, the little selection of legs, the two different eyes... this looks like you're playing with different techniques and methods. Experimenting and exploring is a healthy habit.

On the other hand, it kinda looks like a lot of different styles packed together. AJ's face is kind of stock anime, and some other bits remind me of SB's and/or Peppermint Pony's work.

The muzzles look really long. Twilight's nose, at that angle, only needs to go slightly past the edge of her head. They're kinda blocky too, but I'm assuming that's stylistic.

It seems like you're using the same size brush for everything. For the most part, this isn't bad, but it's really noticable for the eyes where varying line weight counts. The eyelids were thickened up with several passes when a solid even line would have that much more impact. The eyelashes seem rather thin, which looks... well, hairy. I mean, I know they are hairs, but... you know what I mean.

Anyway. Hope some of this helps.
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>>113012
You're a lovely man.

Again, I'm here, giving you things to do.
I've been experimenting with a less cartoony style.
Its a bit dark, no more than most zombie things.
So just pretend its zombies.
It looks so much better in person.
I also have larger versions, but I don't think you'll need those.
There's a lot to work on. But its a start.
>> No. 113017
>>113014
whoa....[by the way, i hate zombies so i rather pretend they arent =D lol]
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>>112947
Urg... Ok so it was just me being silly... The ink works fine, I just hadn't shaken it, loaded the brush fully and was brushing too quickly... Thanks for the help!

Now for more questions!

So I decided to watercolour. I'm trying to light Twi from behind. I know she's off model and off colour but I'm not all that concerned about that right now. My major issue is making a gradient with watercolour.

So I found a book in the library that told me pretty much to draw a dark line and use a wet brush to sort of push the dye twords the lighter area. I tried that... It didn't work...

Is there anything specific I'm doing wrong/anything specific I should be doing or do I just need more practice at this?

Thanks in advance! I'd be so lost without you...
>> No. 113022
>>113018
Watercolours... sorry, I don't really know much about those. I tend to avoid colouring traditionally, because the bulk quantity of the materials required can be inconvenient and expensive.

However, I'd recommend looking up something on youtube. For actual techniques, being able to watch someone demonstrate them can be way more informative than reading a description... even if I knew what to tell you, I'd suggest finding a video.
>> No. 113056
>>113022
Oh dear... I'm only doing this because I have a set of cheap unused watercolours from when I was 10... But I saw in the store for one colour it's like $5 for a small tube...

Hmmm, you're right, probably the best idea. I was avoiding that though because I've already used my internet data cap for the month and any overage adds more to the bill :o
>> No. 113063
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This is the first vector that I ever made, just wanted to see what you guys think about it
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This is the first vector that I ever made, just wanted to see what you guys think about it
>> No. 113065
>>113056
I would have to agree with him. Digitally is a lot...cheaper....I just use GIMP
also, i havent used watercolor either so can't help you there.
>> No. 113069
>>113064
did good, i was able to tell it was a pony Sarah Kerrigan before even reading anything lol
>> No. 113070
>>113069
Thanks, just wanted a little feedback because just posting on your own Deviant art doesn't help much this early on.
>> No. 113074
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I don't usually post here, but a couple of my friends said I should get some critique.

So please, critique this, feedback, things you like, things I could fix, circles, the whole shabam.
I don't usually ask what people think, so this is a little new.
>> No. 113076
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>>113074
You shouldn't post that in somepony's thread
Make your own...
>> No. 113081
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>>113076

Uhh

>Anypony can post their art in this thread for criticism and feed back.

The OP said it, and it's allowed in this thread, because you know, it has permission, so I really don't know what you're referring to.

>>113074

You made a very important decision, and I encourage you to look for more opinions, even though your lines are a little jiggly and the grass is a little odd, I think the proportions and the pose are perfect, no need to fix anything there in my opinion, so you're perfectly set up in my book, keep getting better friend ;)
>> No. 113092
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>>113081
Oh, thank you! I thought I thought the head might've been off but I suppose that was just in my head.
And the lines are a near impossible thing to fix. So I'm going to start to learn how to draw on gimp. I heard it has a tool that will auto-straighten any line you draw.
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>>113092

GIMP and Inkscape are really good programs for drawing, and they're free, both have good tools for making lines well with or without a tablet, I'm holdng my breath for SAI as its basically free, but I think it has a trial period >>113076 she would know best as I make most of my work on Illustrator, SAI need a little more attention though.

Oh and I have an excellent advice relating to what you said, if you look back at something you made and you think you can make it better, then you're certainly improving, if not, just keep advancing, don't stop friend, you're doing well.
>> No. 113171
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Someone on DA did some redlines a while back and I just now finally got around to finishing this new version.
>> No. 113208
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Just made this. Any feedback would be appreciated.
>> No. 113214
>>113208
Use some different font? Everyone saw Bleeding Cowboy at least once in a life time. Also - for a wallpaper it's a tad too bright as for my tastes. Did You make the vector too?
>> No. 113221
>>113214
Yes I made everything by myself.
>> No. 113232
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So, i was wondering if anyone could give critique on this.

I made it in gimp and compiled it into a gif in another program.

I can post individual frames too if anyone wants.
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>>113171

Started a background.
I was fiddling with some settings controlling the sun and I accidentally made it look like an eclipse, but I decided I liked it and want to keep it. Just to copy/paste a shit load of trees and somehow maintain a natural feel. I was going to fill it in for the most part and add a few trunks on some of the trees along the river banks.
>> No. 113275
>>113245
You can do a lot better backgrounds then I can
but even though its cool to have the sun look like that, but if its a solar eclipse, everything needs to be darker.
>> No. 113378
>>112640
>Well, for a "one of your first," this is really good. It's an interesting interpretation of Sweetie Belle as an adult, and honestly I really could see her with a Fleur de Lis sorta build.
Can real "ponies" look like that?
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>>113275

(Sorry about the late reply.)

Thanks! I have never done a very complex background before so it took a while to finally figure out how I should layer everything. Getting them to look like they were shrinking into the distance too was a new challenge, so I ended up making a sort of grid out of a bunch of lines to place and size the trees along. I finished up the background anyways, and I ended up scrapping the eclipse idea.

I also did two recolors of this (Derpy and Dashie) for fun.
>> No. 113454
>>113453
http://darkestdragonking.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d4p3yev This is pretty much the only one I have with a background, though I can draw Chaos Moon better, but the background probably hasnt changed since I did this. Mainly because i dont practice them.
>> No. 113581
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Flootershai!

This came to my mind the other day when I was listening to "New Fluttershy (Monster Mix)" from the Balloon Party album.

I fucked up on the wing, since I was halfway through the thing and remembered she had one. I also forgot the cutie mark...

Bad artist is bad.

Any suggestions on how I could make it look better?
>> No. 113586
>>113581
Add the mark and fix the wing =D lol
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My newest one.
>> No. 113591
>>113589
Sorry, I don't really have anything to say on this one.

Nothing constructive, at least.
>> No. 113592
>>113589
It's an awesome piece, but her face is throwing me off.

More of an opinion than a critique.
>> No. 113593
>>113592
Thanks for opinion.
But sorry, I'm not gonna change this face because I like it. Maybe because I'm not fully fond of drawing typical cutesy faces.
>> No. 113604
>>113593
>Maybe because I'm not fully fond of drawing typical cutesy faces.
I don't see anything wrong with the expression, per se.

The distance between the nose and the mouth is really excessive.

Her mouth, nose, and eye aren't drawn from the same angle as the jawlline. If the camera were below eye level, or her head were tilted upward, we should see the area where her throat meets her jaw.

Her neck is extremely long, and she has very little trapezius muscle. I suppose that comes with an anime art style, but coupled with her lanky, angular deltoids and trashy outfit, she looks like a heroine addict or something.
>> No. 114123
This has gotten really long, should I make a new thread for this?
>> No. 114140
Well, it hasn't autosaged yet, so I don't think it's necessary.
>> No. 114143
>>114123
Yes.
>> No. 114148
>>114123
I usually make a new thread for every time I come back from a short leave or have some sort of breakthrough in my art. Usually no less than 150 posts though.
>> No. 114181
>>114140
autosaged? whats that mean?
>> No. 114183
>>114181
If you put
sage
in the email field when you post, it will not bump the thread to the top of the board.

When a thread gets really old, it will go on autosage and won't bump at all, ever, even if people are still posting normally. There is (was?) an autosage bug, where threads autosage long before they're supposed to.

Mods can put a thread on autosage manually, if they just want it to go away but don't feel that it needs to be locked. They can also take a thread off autosage, if it's been hit by the bug.

More on the subject here: http://www.ponychan.net/chan/?p=faq#17
>> No. 114260
>>114183
o thx for the info
>> No. 114277
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Heyy Zorad! Just wanted to compliment on your art and tell you that its inspirational. I also wanted to know what you think of my Original Character, Freya. She's the Changeling Queen of the Euphoric Hive. she gains her power through Absorbing the Auroras of ponies' imaginations.
>> No. 114307
>>114277
Just thought I'd point something out:
>...the Auroras of ponies' imaginations.
"Aura" is a pretty widely used term... "Aurora," on the other hoof, refers specifically to the atmospheric phenomenon (i.e.: the aurora borealis or aurora australis), or to the Roman goddess it was named after.

Of course, there's no reason you couldn't call it an aurora anyway.

Actually, there's a pretty good chance you already knew this to begin with. X3
>> No. 114337
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Auroras look and sound more imaginative than auras. plus Aurora Borealis And Aurora Australis inspire imaginations so it makes more sense to corelate the two.

I usually think of Auras as gradients of contrasted matter, whereas auroras to me are multiple clashing of contrasted energies. if what I'm saying makes no sense, just provide a pinkie pie.
>> No. 114388
>>114277
Not bad, but it looks like it would be hard to walk or run with hooves like that since it isnt flat on the bottom. I like the wings and the horn =D

So where did you find my art? Well I mean which of my art inspired you?
>> No. 114517
>>114388
I found your Deviantart and looked through your dragon artwork. I really like the dark personality you put in the style. Its very unique, and its just inspiring to me. The choice of colors and stuff.

I saw that the Chrysalis' Hooves had holes in them, so i did something like that but a little different.
>> No. 114532
>>114517
All the changelings in the show had holes in them. But the bottom was always normal so they can walk just like any other creature.

Yeah, I seem to like the dark stuff haha. I practically live in the dark. I'll go to the kitchen around 2 and the sun blinds me cause it shines straight thought the kitchen window. It also easily reflects off the pavement.
>> No. 114539
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Could somepony .. well respond to my art? Need some feedback for it. Mostly the shading technique. I used the darker --> lighter lines to add more depth
#1
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>>114539
#2
>> No. 114618
>>114539
Wait, is it supposed to be that pixelated?
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>about to post this on 4chan's /3/
>get a week long ban message for posting a single pony reaction image outside /mlp/

;_;

Couldn't think of many other places to go.
>> No. 116109
>>116106
wait what?
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>>116109

I'm the guy the made the Daring Do up above.

I was working on this ammo can in max and was about to post my progress to /3/, but apparently because I posted a single pony reaction image in a reply outside /mlp/, I got banned for a week. I eventually found a working proxy since I that post though and uploaded the screenshot to the other thread on 4chan so all is well for now. Just need to flesh out the inside of the lid and texture everything. Maybe add some pony on it.

Anyways, at least when I'm banned I'm a bit more productive. I'm also thinking of starting a new pony related drawing. Maybe something other than a vector this time. Just need to think of something.
>> No. 116152
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Mmmh, okay...I'll post a drawing just this once...
>> No. 116163
>>116152
>Mmmh, okay...I'll post a drawing just this once...
Well, dang... you should post more often. :3

The pose and facial expression are lovely. Very relaxed, very serene. I'm a real sucker for that kind of subtlety in emotions, it takes finesse to pull it off well.

The sense of form is excellent... "form" is kinda hard to define, it's like... the shapes have volume, and look 3D, as opposed to a bunch of lines on a flat piece of paper. It's important for creating the illusion that you're actually looking at something, as opposed to just looking at a drawing of something. So, mad props for that.

The face looks very much like an anime style human head: the iconic big round eyes, rounded cheeks, pointed chin, and petite nose. By itself, it looks great, but seeing it on pony is kinda surreal. It's kind of neat, actually, there's a kind of casual unreality about it. Reminds me of the Egyptian Sphinx... though, I'm not sure if that's what you were going for. X3

There's some frizz on the back of the ears that looks out of place. In part because horses typically have short and sleek coats, and in part because it's the only place where it appears on the body.

Those ears... now, I know a lot of people draw them like that, and it's purely a stylistic choice... but neither MLPonies nor real horses have ears that look anything like that at all. I know they're supposed to look cute, but they look to me like thick fleshy lumps, which don't really seem all that cute to me. Also, they look like feline ears, which would be kind of unnatural on a pony.

Anyway... hope you find some of this useful. Your drawing shows definite skill and aptitude, though some of the stylistic choices may be giving an impression other than what you were going for.

I'm kind of surprised you posed a drawing of a canon character, though... not very original.
I'm just kidding, of course. :3
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>>116163
>Well, dang... you should post more often. :3
Haha, Having more than one art thread is bothersome, which is why you never see me post any of my art or an art thread. Although it would make most sense to post my art on the busiest art board on the most populated chan, I actually made a thread on the least populated chan(that is still known by most people). It was actually for just one person to see originally, but I sometimes hint people on the whereabouts if they're curious enough. That thread is obsolete now anyways since I made a new Deviant Art account

Thank you very much for your feedback, WhiteFox! I'm very glad you like it! To explain the choice in the anime face and weird ears, well I was basing the style off of a previous picture I drew. I'm actually trying to get back into drawing anime more because I'm designing characters for a visual novel my friends may or may not make(They've barely started the writing process after all this time so I wouldn't be surprised if they just gave up...) and I have a feeling my future commissions might count on it(A friend of mine wants me to try doing yugioh card alterations, for example). So lately I've been drawing more anthro/humanized and incorporating anime features into ponies. Anime is very big on big feline styled ears and extra fuzz so I was just experimenting with that. I'll probably add more frizz to the body so the ear frizz won't be lonely ;)

Oh you ;) I think y'all have seen my OC enough lol
>> No. 116191
>>116171
> I'm very glad you like it!
Well, "like it" might be putting it a bit strongly. I don't like most anime out there, especially not the generic looking stuff. That style of ear annoys me to the extreme, too. The one thing I did like, the unreal human-head-on-pony, wasn't even intentional.

But you know what? I know when I don't like something entirely because of personal preference. I also know a well made drawing when I see one, and that is very well drawn indeed.

When I do critique, I'm not out to make the artist do the kind of work that I like, or that I think they should do (when it comes to art I like, I can make plenty of that myself). My objective to help the artist accomplish what they set out to do.
>> No. 116204
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Hi! I'm kinda new here. Can I please get gritique on anatomy? And maybe some other stuff that I didn't notice...
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>>116191
Well as long as you don't hate it then

>>116204
The only thing that bothers me a lot is the neck. at first glance I couldn't distinguish the back of the neck, making the neck seem very wide. I think making the neck longer should help. Fleur is a tall, thin pony after all, so a longer neck should accentuate that.
>> No. 116215
>>116204
The neck does seem a bit short, for Fleur.

But wait, there's more! Fleur, like the princesses, has an extremely narrow jaw as well. While this varies depending on how she has her head posed, you could easily get away with raising it a bit (See: the red line in the attached image).
for comparison: http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/File:Monicle_error2.png and http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/File:Monicle_error3.png

Also, Fleur's jawline has a bit of an upward curve before the check area... much like the princesses.

Blue circles: The hatching seems to approach the edges of the lineart without actually reaching them, which makes a conspicuous sort of halo around Fleur. This compromises what is otherwise some gorgeous looking ambient shadows and hatching. (I suppose she could be glowing, tho)

Purple line: Fleur's hair comes out from behind her ear, sweeps down over the eye, then curves up and over to meet the outside edge of her hair... without actually meeting it. The edge of her "bangs" stops short, and curls downward at the last little bit. In >>116204, the hair ends in a few tapered points, which looks more like Rainbow Dash's forelock, and has a much different look than the long, silky tresses that she has in the show. They're less elegant and more energetic

Anyway, hope this helps some.

>>116207
>Well as long as you don't hate it then
Oh! No, no: I most certainly do not hate it, not at all. It's just.. not my thing.

I've been doing critique for so long that what I do and don't like just doesn't seem to really matter anymore. At the same time, I find that I'm much more prone to appreciate the qualities of a piece of art in spite of my preferences: I don't like anime, but I can appreciate and respect subtlety in expression, strong forms, good quality lines, and all kinds of other stuff completely unrelated to the art style.

So, it may not be what I like. but I certainly think it's good, and that matters far more. I also think that you're a good artist and a friend, and I'm certainly not going to begrudge you for doing the things you want to do them. :3
>> No. 116220
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>>116215
Oh, hay, I think I forgot something.
>pic related
>> No. 116226
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>>116215
Calm down, silly. I never accused you of hating it.
>> No. 116244
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painted this on a piece of plasticard. the hair colour is a pain since I only have one shade of pink to mix with.
>> No. 116246
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Needing some feedback for this [obviously].
It is the first I've ever drawn something like this sooo yeah. What I have gotten from it though is that she is a little too skinny....does any one agree? Oh, and it is especially my first time for fins....
>> No. 116250
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>>116220
Thank you a lot for the critique!
Tried to fix the errors. Is it better now?
>> No. 116260
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First attempt to draw pony. Can I get some critique?
>> No. 116264
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>>116246
Yeah, the body is kinda skinny.

Trivia: these guys were featured prominently in the G1 cartoon, and were called seaponies... not merponies. But then, seaponies looked more like seahorses: they had fins instead of forelegs, and no fins on the tail... it ended in a little curling tendril. Also, they sang. A lot. Which is where the line "shoo-be-doo, shoo-shoo be-doo" comes from. That's right, it's buckin' canon.

But, basically, this design is distinct enough from the classic seapony that it could merit a it's own name, if you wanted. In classic greek mythology, a half-fish-half-horse was a hippocampus ("hippo" is greek for horse... hippogryph, hippalectyron, and, yes, hippopotamus). They had brass hooves, how pimp is that?

...I digress. Merpony works just fine, since this is not exactly a seapony, and hippocampus is kinda obscure and sounds silly anyway.

The tail fin splits. Fish's bodies usually come to a rounded end at the back, and have one large tail fin that radiates out from it. The fin might have a V shape to it, but it's still one fin (eg.: this guy: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Herringadultkils.jpg).

The fore legs seem rather long. The height of a pony at the shoulder is about the same as the length of their body. Aqua's leg is about as long as her body, and that's while it's somewhat tucked in, and from the elbow down alone.

The upper forelegs are rather thick. Most of the tapering in a ponies foreleg happens at the lower half.

>>116244
Well, uh... it's really small. Points for that, I guess. not much else to say, really.

>>
>Thank you a lot for the critique!
You're quite welcome! It's my thing, actually: I'm kinda the resident critique guy. :3
>pic related
Back on topic...

>Is it better now?
Better indeed. The hatching directly next to the hooves is still slightly lighter in shade, so there's a little bit of halo, but it's much less conspicuous.

I could nitpick over the hair: The edge across the forehead doesn't come as low as it does in the show, and it connects to the edge of the hair on the side. However, it definitely has more of the elegant silky look of Fleur's hair, rather than the sport spiky forelock of Dash's, so Mission Accomplished. If you're that worried about show accuracy, it might be worth tweaking, but I don't really see a need to.

I do notice the changes to the hair coming from behind her ear... much less confusion about the back of the neck, but not as show-accurate: it looks much thicker, and doesn't have the "notch."

And, now that I'm looking at it, I just noticed... In the show, the mane coming down her neck has three locks: one that ends in a point, and two that curl forward; the hair behind her face, the side that meets the hair coming across the forehead, has a lock that comes to a point, and one that curls backward.

In >>116250, the mane coming down the back of her neck has one backward facing curl and a point, matching the "forward facing" part of hair, rather than the part that comes down the neck. Again, kind of a nitpick... the first two times I took a good, close look at the original and double checked the image refs, I didn't notice it .

It doesn't matter which way the head is facing, either: the edge along her forehead always follows the direction she's facing.

Ah, the joys of quantum mechanics: "the act of observing changes the observed," so pony's hairstyles can flip depending on what what direction you look at it from. It's science, so it must be perfectly logical. Eee-yup.
>> No. 116266
>>116264
Oh really? Interesting
Well I tried to find something about it, but i didn't exactly have any good to reference to. I'll try to keep those points in mind if [and probably will] try it again.

That wasn't as harsh as last time [which didn't make me happy]
Also, when looking around for what to call it, merpony was what i found the best results for so i just called it that.
>> No. 116279
>>116266
That wasn't as harsh as last time [which didn't make me happy]
Yeah, I got sorta grumpy for a little while... sorry about that. I snipped at SpiritShine too.

Dunno what came over me: normally, I do a better job of keeping civil when things are annoying me.
>> No. 116331
>>116279
Yeah, harsh criticism makes me upset since it could be said nicer.
Well, I had a sort of grumpy moment last night, not sure why either.
>> No. 116336
>>116260
I like the painted look, particularly the sfx around the horn. The lighting has a nice feel as well... whether it's 100% technically accurate or not, it gives a good impression of the physical shapes, and it looks moody and dramatic.

With the pools of luminescence around her forelegs, it seems odd that her forelegs aren't more completely lit, or that the hind legs aren't lit at all.

The thigh of the hind leg is particularly long... I could do a redline, if you like.

At first, I was going to point out that the tail was all wrong for Twilight... then I noticed the cutie mark (a pentacle rather than a skinny six pointed star), and realized that this may or may not actually be Twi. X3
>> No. 116354
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I've been working on this for a little while, drawing it on-and-off the entire time. Personally, I'm happy with it so far, but would like to hear critique, if anyone has anything.

Still haven't done the tail, but the sketch there should give you the impression of what it'll be like.

The plan is that in the end, I'll have Twilight looking menacing with crazy light effects and stuff.

Also, this is my first "serious" drawing of anything. Other things have been for /rp/ stuff, mostly.
>> No. 116518
>>116354
Well, one thing that stands out to me is that the neck looks too thick
>> No. 116553
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>>116354
Judging from the construction lines, the neck is actually a bit narrow. The way the mane is draped makes it look much thicker, however.

The main reason Twi looks kinda heavy, actually, is the fact that her whole body, from flank to nose, looks like one thick tube.

At the front, pony's torsos are about 2/3rds as thick as their heads (top to bottom, that is). When they stick their heads straight forward, the line on the back of the neck comes straight forward, and meets the head at the base of the ear. The throat curves up slightly, and meets the corner of the jaw.

>pic related
Have a reference image.

The head in >>116354 is much lower than the attached ref, to the point where the jaw is level with the underside of the torso. The neck meets the head a fair bit below the corner of the ear, so it's actually a bit thin. Well, okay, the ear is smaller and set higher up than show-ponies, but the point where the neck meets the head is still rather low.

The throat is one downward curve, which looks somewhat massive. If it had a slight s-curve, it might look a little more natural.

Her right hind leg (Her right) is placed much closer to the camera than her right foreleg, to the point where it seems longer than the other legs.

The face... in layman's terms, it looks wonky. I could redline it, if you like. It'd be a lot easier than just describing them.

Actually I could redline all of this stuff, if it's not clear.
>> No. 116747
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Here is something that still has a really long ways to go before I finish. So it is still a little messy since I'm not the best with tablets as I am better with pencil and paper [as such it looks better with my paper drawing]
I am certainly going to make it neater but anything? [the wings were supposed to be like petals or what not...but oh well. I also had no side references for something like this. Without colors, I'll say the tail, and wing [not the webbing part] are vines....and those are vines swirling around the front legs. I guess it looks hard to critic for the moment but bear with me [I don't really like very harsh criticism]
>> No. 119336
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QUICK!
tell me how bad i am at drawing!
>kidding
yea... but this is my first attempt at drawing ponies...
>> No. 119388
>>119336
Not a bad start, actually. There are a bundle of guides in the Tutorial and Reference sticky, >>111265, for body proportions that you may want to check out.

I could do a redline, if you'd like, but I'd need to know what kind of physical build you were going for. Average sized pony? Smaller stallion like Caramel? Larger stallion like Big Mac orShining Armor?

The tail is rather small. Typically, a pony's tail takes up an area as wide as the width of their head, and comes down to their ankle (that corner half way up their hind leg) or knuckle (ie: slightly above the ground).
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